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Speaker 1: will join us as tour Of course, Ryan played in

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Speaker 1: the league for a decade. He's the Rockets color analysts

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Speaker 1: and he joins us as our Fox Sports Radio NBA analyst.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to his thoughts from last night. So let me.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny. I get to ask all the time, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, what's it like? What's different than you thought?

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Speaker 1: So recruiting is very different in college basketball than it

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Speaker 1: used to be from this perspective, right when you're taking

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Speaker 1: international players, when you're taking portal players, you have some

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Speaker 1: time to make the decision, but you don't always have

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Speaker 1: a thorough up basis of knowledge of who the player

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Speaker 1: is and what they are. And especially now as you

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Speaker 1: open up the floodgates to international players, which is it's

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Speaker 1: kind of the gold rush, right, There's been some that

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Speaker 1: have come over and got made so much money that

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Speaker 1: now everybody's like, well, and it's easier to get them

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Speaker 1: into school to play. Then you go back five six years.

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Speaker 1: Previously it was just too many hoops, didn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: They were already making money overseas. Now it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 1: They can say they're still amateurs. They almost all have

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Speaker 1: good grades. They want to come to college, they want

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Speaker 1: to experience the United States. But this is what the

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Speaker 1: experience is actually, Like, I have agents from ten different

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Speaker 1: countries on my phone. Everybody communicates FIA WhatsApp and they

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Speaker 1: send you a tape and it's a highlight tape and

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Speaker 1: then sometimes it's a full bio. Sometimes that's full game.

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Speaker 1: Says that if you watch the highlight tape for these players,

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Speaker 1: you'd be like, why isn't this guy in the NBA

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Speaker 1: draft and why is he available to come to Green

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Speaker 1: Bay now. Sometimes it's because the financial ask is just

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Speaker 1: completely out of asserts. Sometimes it's because the guy isn't

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Speaker 1: as tall as it says, sometimes he's older. Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: really can't get him into the United States with his

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Speaker 1: contract and he's really a pro, and they're just kind

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Speaker 1: of messing with you. But oftentimes it's because the highlight

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Speaker 1: tapes max the actual game. And I'm watching last night

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Speaker 1: and I have a couple of takeaways on both Bronnie

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Speaker 1: James and on Cooper Flag. But I think the biggest

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Speaker 1: takeaway will be if you didn't watch that game. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, I'm not trying to embarrass you guys.

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Speaker 1: You guys have lives as well, and it's not like

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Speaker 1: it was Game seven of the NBA Finals. Sam in order, Sam, Jason, Dan,

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Speaker 1: Did you guys watch the Lakers Mavericks Summer League game

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Speaker 1: last night? Sam?

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 1: Jason, I did, yep, okay, Dan, I did, okay? Sam.

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Speaker 1: What is your perception of each of the players of

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Speaker 1: h first Bronnie and then of Cooper Flag and how they.

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Speaker 2: Played, you mean, how they played.

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Speaker 1: Baseb on no, how they played last night.

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch last night.

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Speaker 1: I know you didn't watch the game, but you have

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Speaker 1: seen highlights. You do own a phone. There are people that, again,

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Speaker 1: without having watched, I'm sure you saw some highlights. You

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Speaker 1: all the time. What is your perception on how they

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I didn't see any highlights. I know

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Speaker 3: nothing about this game. Okay, so I'm not the right

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Speaker 1: Fine, here's what I think if you watch highlights. Ronnie

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Speaker 1: James had two shots in a row in the first

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Speaker 1: half and then a drive and kickoff or dunk. Like man,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Cooper Flag was five of twenty one

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Speaker 1: if you just look at ross stats, you'd be like

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Speaker 1: Bronnie was okay, didn't take a ton of shots, made

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Speaker 1: Cooper Flag. He was trying to back him down. And

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Speaker 1: Cooper Flagg he just shot every time he got the ball. Okay, Now, Dan,

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Speaker 4: I thought that Cooper flag provided highlights that you look for,

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Speaker 4: but the whole thing is just gobblygook.

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Speaker 5: It's a bunch of players that haven't played together, I'm guessing,

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Speaker 5: and it looks like it. It's it's kind of like

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Speaker 5: it's either like a middle school game or a WNBA

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Speaker 1: Okay, but in regards to those two guys, my takeaway

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Speaker 1: looked like Okay, in comparison to last year, he'd improve.

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Speaker 1: Last year he ran from the ball, last year he

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Speaker 1: looked like he knew kind of what to do and

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Speaker 1: Like if you didn't know he was Bronnie James, you

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Speaker 1: who's that guy, Cooper Flagg. I think you would say, boy,

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Speaker 1: that kid must think he's really really good because he

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Speaker 1: takes a lot of shots. But part of it is

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Speaker 1: you're never going to get to that place of being

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Speaker 1: a dominant player unless you act and try and play

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Speaker 4: That there's yeah, I thought he flashed last night. There

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Speaker 1: Look like yeah that that at some point that will work. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And that's really that's really what your rookie year, high

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Speaker 1: in golf, when you're not particularly good at golf, or

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Speaker 1: It's not about what your round is, right, It's gonna

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Speaker 4: There's also in a similar parallel on Me and my

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Speaker 4: we were both playing decent for how we played, but

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Speaker 4: and you're like, when you play with someone that can

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Speaker 4: really play, you realize how much that you aren't good

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Speaker 4: there were guys out there that, yeah, maybe they could

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Speaker 4: look the part, maybe they can hit the three. But

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Speaker 4: when Cooper Flagg is doing what he's doing, it's just

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Speaker 4: a different animal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as opposed to Bronnie James, who again take you

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Speaker 1: take the the golf analogy, and he doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: he could shoot a sixty five, if that makes any

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Speaker 1: You got to look like you could shoot a sixty five.

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Speaker 1: And he just doesn't. And what happens is what people

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll say, you know, like, oh, Bronnie stinks. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't stink. He's not bad at basketball. He's just not

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Speaker 1: a rotational NBA player. He's not He shouldn't be one

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Speaker 1: far more control over what's going on the court. As

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Speaker 1: you guys point out, look at I'm played together, look

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Speaker 1: had no minutes for him this year, but he looked like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he'd looked like he'd been around the course before. Bronni

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Speaker 1: had some of that, but there was definitely no control

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Speaker 1: That's that's my breakdown of it. And there were some

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Speaker 5: of the golf as you guys were talking, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 5: sure Dan's familiar with this guy. You know, you get

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Speaker 5: like midway through the round, the guy will turn you

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Speaker 5: and be like, man, I never played this bad. And

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Speaker 5: that happens in poker too, Like you'll be playing on

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Speaker 5: a table and some guy like man, I never played

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Speaker 5: the way you play, you know, I saw your swing.

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Speaker 5: You're probably bad all the time and I think that's

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Speaker 5: what Doug is getting to. And it reminded me when

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Speaker 5: Cooper Flag was, uh did the interview after the game.

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Speaker 5: It kind of reminded me of that Cooper Flag was

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Speaker 5: telling the world, Man, I never played this bat not up.

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Speaker 6: To my standard. But I'm gonna regroup, be all right.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's a new feeling, new environment, new teammates.

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Speaker 7: But you know, the guys haunted.

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Speaker 6: Down, you know, Miles Ryan, they were amazing tonight. Max

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Speaker 6: Oh and they were great tonight. So you know, just

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Speaker 6: you know, they had my back. You know, I didn't

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Speaker 6: going forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, there's just there's just a confidence to it.

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Speaker 1: Like good guy, Dan. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I'll tell you what I did

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Speaker 4: like about last night and because and what I what

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Speaker 4: I didn't like. So I tuned in like two minutes

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Speaker 4: there were two minutes gone by or something like that.

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Speaker 4: And for three trips down the court, I'm seeing number

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Speaker 4: thirty six and forty seven and number nine handle the

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Speaker 4: ball a lot for Dallas, Like, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: is yes, No, this is Jason. It says on there

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Speaker 2: pat Benattar. That's weird. Okay, I don't know who cares.

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Speaker 1: I gotta know. I have to know these things, like idiot, it's.

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Speaker 2: Got to be in our system, right, No, he's.

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Speaker 1: Saying it's in our system.

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Speaker 2: But he was playing it there off his computer.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We have we did have the Patty smythe song I

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Speaker 2: played that.

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Speaker 4: But yes, by scandal in this system us the button bar? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so our I just want to I just want to

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Speaker 4: lay this out here because we get on Sam a

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Speaker 4: lot for this. Do you think that I Heart Media,

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Speaker 4: with thousands of radio states across this country and including

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Speaker 4: top forty programs of Casey, Casem and other that I

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Speaker 4: run through this building, would have that song mislabeled?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: Possible, No, it's impossible.

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Speaker 4: So whatever, Sam, whatever you played from your button bar,

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Speaker 4: which is a radio term that nobody realizes that means.

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Speaker 4: But that's how he would bring up the song and

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Speaker 4: play it. There's no way that's wrong in the system.

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Speaker 2: And I think that the YouTuber the YouTube post that

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Speaker 2: we just played, I think may have been like a

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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb disciple because.

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Speaker 1: Disciple on YouTube they missed, they mislabeled.

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Speaker 5: They mislabeled at Pat Bennettar. Because if you look for

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Speaker 5: the actual song I Am the Warrior about Pat Benatar,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't exist.

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Speaker 2: I think the people confuse it. Our listener who tweeted

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Speaker 2: you is wrong. I think you were wrong, and then

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Speaker 2: I was wrong for playing a YouTube song that was

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Speaker 2: mislabeled Pat Benatar.

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Speaker 1: So there is no Pat Benatar song called The Warrior.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to anyone in our system. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: have every big hit by Pat benatarn here, but it

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Speaker 3: has most of them, and I do not see anything

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Speaker 3: about the Warrior. So I think it is patty'smife. We

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Speaker 3: have settled this.

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Speaker 2: I believe.

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Speaker 1: I believe I am wrong. Yeah, I think I'm I'm wrong. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's the question, Dan, we don't know the answer to this.

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Speaker 1: How does it end between Lebron and the Lakers.

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Speaker 4: Well, I thought he was going to play out low

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Speaker 4: All the other teams throughout the season. He would be

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Speaker 4: a free agent next year and allow that frenzy to occur.

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Speaker 4: Then he would sign on for two years with that team,

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Speaker 4: a one on one deal, and then that next year

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Speaker 4: would be his final year. That's how I think it

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Speaker 4: ends up ending. The only thing that has moved me

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Speaker 4: off of that being one hundred percent to about ninety

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Speaker 4: eight percent is all of this Cleveland crap that's going on.

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Speaker 4: And by crap, I'm not blaming Cleveland, but I'm learning

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Speaker 4: to get golf. I'm wearing you know, the hats, the

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Speaker 4: whole deal that we've talked about for the last week,

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Speaker 4: all of that stuff said it last Sunday, like that's stuff.

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Speaker 4: Like now it's like Lebron is on overdrive. He tweeted

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Speaker 4: more since he announced that he was opting into his

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Speaker 4: contract than he did the entire month of June over

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Speaker 4: those five days.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Jay stew again, I know you, like I

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Speaker 1: want to get into the sports. There's not a sports discussion.

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Speaker 1: This is a how does it play out discussion? What

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Speaker 1: do you think happens?

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Speaker 2: It just seems to me that they're gonna find a

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Speaker 2: way to move him before the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they get to the trade deadline. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's a telltale sign of how bad it is. Is

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Speaker 1: Bronny with the big club to start the year next year?

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Speaker 1: Is he with the big club? Does he and does

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Speaker 1: he play as well? Like, if he plays early on

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Speaker 1: they're trying to pacify him, they have him around in

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Speaker 1: the regular season, then I don't. But if they're like,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna do mostly G League this year,

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Speaker 1: keep developing, keep developing, keep developing, then I then yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it could be done earlier rather than later.

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Speaker 1: And then the question is if somebody's gona pick him

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Speaker 1: up next year, are they gonna make him back draft Brice?

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Speaker 1: Is that gonna be part of the deal and take

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Speaker 1: Brownie with him?

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Speaker 1: Been widely reported that the NCAA Tournament's gonna remain in

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Speaker 1: sixty eight teams for now. Both the men's and women's

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Speaker 1: basketball committees met this week to discuss expanding I love that. Hey, no, listen.

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Speaker 1: The women had a discussion about expanding the tournament two yes.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The The topic of in the field This is from

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Speaker 1: Dan Gavit, who runs the event in each championship, was

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Speaker 1: discussed at length, but no decision or recommendation was made.

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Speaker 1: Steal Bible outcomes include the determinans remaining sixty eight teams

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Speaker 1: or expanding the field to seventy two or seventy six

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Speaker 1: games in advance of the twenty six or twenty seven

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Speaker 1: championship seasons. So that's pretty good. It's really good, really good.

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Speaker 1: What what's really good that they're starting to kind of

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Speaker 1: show their cards. It's my belief that whatever they found

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Speaker 1: I hasn't give them total clarity as to what it's

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Speaker 1: actually worth. My guess is that there is not a

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Speaker 1: clause in there that opens up for renegotiation with any party.

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Speaker 1: So the NCAA signed a deal with CBS and Turner.

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Speaker 1: Turner pays eighty percent of it right now. Since then, recently,

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Speaker 1: Turner has has doubled down and they got way more

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Speaker 1: college sports than they ever used to. They got more

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Speaker 1: professional sports. Although they don't have the NBA. They don't

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Speaker 1: have the NBA, so not having the NBA, but they

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Speaker 1: still own and operate inside the NBA. Obviously they still

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Speaker 1: have the space there. Gonna be fascinating to see what

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Speaker 1: they do regarding the NCAA tournament in meaning, I would

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Speaker 1: guess that the wording doesn't say if you add games now,

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Speaker 1: Apple can bid, now, ESPN can bid, now, NBC can bid,

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Speaker 1: because if they did, then they absolutely would have added games.

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Speaker 1: They would have done it already because as much as

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Speaker 1: you know, you're only talking about adding two games or

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Speaker 1: four games. Right, Remember, if you're at sixty eight, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to seventy two. You're adding when you're adding

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Speaker 1: four teams, that's two games. If you add if you

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Speaker 1: go from sixty eight to seventy eight, seventy six, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: you're adding four games, that's it. How much are those

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Speaker 1: four games worth? Not a ton unless the whole package

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Speaker 1: is now potentially for sale. And again this is just

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Speaker 1: an educated guess that the only thing they can do

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Speaker 1: now is hey, they meet with a committee, like, ah, okay,

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Speaker 1: we all want more money. We all need more money.

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Speaker 1: But if we're going to continue to destroy the fabric

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Speaker 1: of this thing, which is the sixty four team bracket,

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Speaker 1: that's all anybody cares about. How much is that worth

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Speaker 1: to us? And does it trigger a reopening of the

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Speaker 1: negotiation for the TV deal. If it did, I believe

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Speaker 1: this would have been approved. I don't think it does.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Holland's going to join us. We'll ask him about

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Speaker 1: Summer League and about this Lebron James Luka Doncik passing

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Speaker 1: of the torch in l a story that Ramona Shelburne

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Speaker 1: and Brian Windhorse authored Stut Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Hollands joins us this weekly visit. He's our Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio NBA analyst. We both played in Summer League.

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Speaker 1: You well, you've made the team. You made the league

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Speaker 1: for ten years. Not so much for your boy. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with Bronnie. What was your email on Lebron James Junior.

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Speaker 8: I thought he looked so much more comfortable on the floor.

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Speaker 8: I think for Bronni, he's going to be a reliable,

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Speaker 8: reliable role player. I think he'll be a long time pro.

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Speaker 8: But it's just the biggest thing you can tell, so

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Speaker 8: a lot of the nerves from last year, and I

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Speaker 8: mean for the fiftieth pick, and obviously the being the

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Speaker 8: Brons on the heights is always going.

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Speaker 2: To be there.

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Speaker 8: But I thought he'd looked good out there. I thought

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Speaker 8: he looked confident and you know, you can see his

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Speaker 8: body developing and growing even more.

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Speaker 1: I would agree with you in terms of his comfort, okay,

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Speaker 1: and his confidence, but I would I would tell you

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Speaker 1: that My thing would be and again, you played in

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Speaker 1: the league. I didn't. Usually guys that played in the

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Speaker 1: league when they come to play summer league, the expectations

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Speaker 1: are for them to be, if not the best, one

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Speaker 1: of the two or three best players of the court.

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Speaker 1: The NBA players look different than summer league dudes. Is

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Speaker 1: that fair?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: And I don't think he met that test. Did he

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Speaker 1: look better, yes, more comfortable, yes, stronger, sure, But did

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Speaker 1: he look like that guy's playing in the league for

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Speaker 1: a year? He didn't fit that bill? Is that fair? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I mean, in again to each his own, you know,

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Speaker 8: in that in that situation, and I and here's the thing,

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Speaker 8: Like for Bronni's game, he's great playing off people, He's

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Speaker 8: a defender, obviously that's going to be had for himself

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Speaker 8: in his game. But he's gonna go into a summer

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Speaker 8: league game and he's not gonna, you know, just just

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Speaker 8: he's not gonna blow you away with things that he's

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Speaker 8: gonna do out there. And that doesn't mean that he

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Speaker 8: can't make a impact. And I think the biggest thing

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Speaker 8: he's gonna have to improve his spot up shooting, and

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Speaker 8: he's gonna have to be a dog defender. You know,

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Speaker 8: these are the things that we've been saying for a

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Speaker 8: long time in terms of Brownie. So I think that's

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Speaker 8: where you know, we're gonna see his ultimate impact at

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Speaker 8: the end of the day, and you know they were

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Speaker 8: the improvements are gonna have to be made for him.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, Ryan Holins,

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Speaker 1: I guess okay, Now, same question regards to Cooper Flag,

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Speaker 1: what'd you think.

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Speaker 8: I think Cooper is who I thought he was. I

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Speaker 8: think he's gonna be excellent on a team where he

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Speaker 8: can run the lane and finish and use his athleticism.

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Speaker 8: He's not a guy you throw the ball to and

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Speaker 8: you say get out, get out the way. And I

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Speaker 8: think if those people had those expectations of him. They're

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Speaker 8: going to be disappointed. But he's at a perfect place

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Speaker 8: in Dallas where he's gonna bring a lot of length

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Speaker 8: inside to their to their them being already pretty good defensively,

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Speaker 8: he's a good outside shooter, and I think if you

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Speaker 8: can defend, that means you can get out and transition. Doug,

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Speaker 8: but he's best right now in transition, and I think

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Speaker 8: that's where Cooper is gonna essentially flourish.

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Speaker 2: But with his.

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Speaker 8: Intangibles, he's a great piece. And you know, when we

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Speaker 8: say role player, you a guy that can play on

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Speaker 8: the floor, Like that's not a shot to any guys.

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Speaker 8: Like a lot of guys can't play in the NBA

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Speaker 8: game and they can't, you know, kind of fill a position.

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Speaker 8: I don't think there's gonna be an issue with.

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Speaker 1: Cooper stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you read the article earlier today, but

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Speaker 1: Ramona Shelburne, I know, you know well, uh and Brian Windhorse, Uh.

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Speaker 1: They co author to piece that said, Hey, basically, the

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Speaker 1: Lakers have gone from Lebron involved in any decision to

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Speaker 1: Lebron no longer involved in every and any decisions, what

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on the transition the Lakers are making.

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Speaker 8: Well, you got to understand, you know, this is part

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Speaker 8: of having new ownership. And I think the last we talked, Hey,

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Speaker 8: those are things that you gotta you know, you're gonna

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Speaker 8: have to figure out. And you know, I thought it

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Speaker 8: was pretty obvious in Lebron's you know actions, whether that

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Speaker 8: was you know, told to him or not, or how

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Speaker 8: it was or wasn't conveyed, that he was gonna he's

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Speaker 8: looking to make a power play, like saying, Hey, you

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Speaker 8: know I don't have to be here. Let's see how

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Speaker 8: you value me, you know, how this thing is going

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Speaker 8: to work without me at the end of the day.

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Speaker 8: So that's what I read, and I think either there's

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Speaker 8: accuracy to that statement or you know, he's going to

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Speaker 8: test the waters and kind of find out where he lands.

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Speaker 8: But I definitely, I definitely believe in that. I think

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Speaker 8: I think that's what's going on, and you know Lebron

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Speaker 8: is smart enough to know that, and you know, you

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Speaker 8: see him being, you know, in a sense proactive. Hey,

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Speaker 8: I'll go play somewhere else. So you're gonna have to

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Speaker 8: make a choice and say, oh no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 8: don't go play no nowhere else. You're good here. You're

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Speaker 8: our guy, for good or not. But you know he's

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Speaker 8: in the position again. He's smart enough to force their

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Speaker 8: hand in a new ownership position.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Tradio. Ryan Hollins

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Speaker 1: is our guest. You can hear him on Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Tradio acts to see him if you watch Houston Rockets games. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City now they're big three? Is all locked up?

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Speaker 1: If you were running that place, is that what you

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Speaker 1: would have done?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you got to keep him happy. And one of

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Speaker 8: the biggest things that they've also shown is that they

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Speaker 8: are ops in the league and player development. So they

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Speaker 8: showed you the guys they can't recreate. They feel like

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Speaker 8: the rest of those guys are essentially interchangeable. We can

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Speaker 8: bring in Wiggins or Isaiah Joe and we can make

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Speaker 8: another one. You know, we feel like we have faith

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Speaker 8: enough in the system. But as far as those three,

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Speaker 8: you know, Jalen Williams and Shay and Chet, those are

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Speaker 8: the pieces that are not interchangeable. And that's what they

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Speaker 8: you know, they kind of let you you know, and

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Speaker 8: you know, for what they've done, they won the championship.

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Speaker 8: I always believe that you reward the champ you know,

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Speaker 8: even if it may set you back, even it may

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Speaker 8: hurt you a little bit moving forward. You take care

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Speaker 8: of those guys and you know, hopefully you can have

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Speaker 8: a San Antonio like build where you keep them there

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Speaker 8: long term and guys are comfortable and they trust you

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Speaker 8: enough as an organization and does forgimiving me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 8: I think Okac is probably the closest. I think the

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Speaker 8: Warriors have been the Spurs of our generation, but okay

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Speaker 8: See has a chance to be the next generation Spurs

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Speaker 8: if they can keep that core intact and have kind

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Speaker 8: of like that family us against the world type mentality.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think. I mean, obviously, you know you

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Speaker 1: have Sam Presti came from the Spurs. They're trying to

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Speaker 1: be built like the Spurs, and you know, the Spurs

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Speaker 1: had had a big three or four they built around

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Speaker 1: for years and they were just very fortunate for the

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Speaker 1: most part, those guys didn't get hurt. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think that would be my biggest cause for concern would

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Speaker 1: be Chet. You know, he's play like a year and

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Speaker 1: a half. He was hurt the first year and then

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Speaker 1: he played eighty two and then he was hurt this year.

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Speaker 1: Do I think his jump shot develops? Yes? Do I

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Speaker 1: think he's still a good room protector, Sure, But injuries

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Speaker 1: I think are the biggest issue with that one.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: No, No, You're You're spot on. And you know, it's

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Speaker 8: even intriguing, intriguing when you look at Chet because he's

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Speaker 8: got such a unique bial with his size and his

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Speaker 8: skill set is just off the charts. You don't see

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Speaker 8: the guys that big. I think he's even an answer too, almost,

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Speaker 8: you know, taller than I am, and I'm a legit

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Speaker 8: seven feet but you don't see those guys being able

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Speaker 8: to move like that. And the question, you know, with

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Speaker 8: the Chet is like, hey, do we put weight on

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Speaker 8: him or do we just get him stronger? Do we

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Speaker 8: just kind of injury prevention maintenance him? But at the

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Speaker 8: end of the day, I've always said this, Shay's really

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Speaker 8: darn good, like historically good. But for them to win,

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Speaker 8: that's got to be good. And you know, when Chet

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Speaker 8: becomes good, that's that's where the league really gets in trouble,

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Speaker 8: and even more so, where he can guard his physician

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Speaker 8: and the and the fives on the floor because if

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Speaker 8: you can hold his weight on at five, you're you're

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Speaker 8: not matching up with okay. See, so he's he's the key.

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Speaker 8: So I agree with the investment into him, and you

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Speaker 8: got to assume they have the medical records and they

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Speaker 8: felt comfortable what they've seen from him.

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Speaker 5: And with his age.

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Speaker 1: Do you like what's your reaction to the Mike Brown

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Speaker 1: hire with the Knicks.

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Speaker 8: I thought Mike Brown did an unbelievable job in Sacramento

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Speaker 8: and it's not the sexiest pick. I'm sorry they didn't

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Speaker 8: go and you know, get get you know, one of

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Speaker 8: the name guys that they originally wanted to poach from

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Speaker 8: another team or you know, you know, like Jay Wright

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Speaker 8: or somebody like that. But Mike Brown is a darn

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Speaker 8: good coach and I worked with him and I thought

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Speaker 8: he did a heck of a job in Sacramento, and

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Speaker 8: I think he's gonna, you know, New York setting themselves

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Speaker 8: up with Mike Brown to you know, come back and

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Speaker 8: roll and have a strong level of success. So I

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Speaker 8: thought there was a great move by them, and you know,

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Speaker 8: I think that works out at the India end of

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Speaker 8: the day. And you know, Doug, you can almost see

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Speaker 8: it unfolding with everybody getting hurt, Like, hey, New York

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Speaker 8: is right there, if not somewhat favored in this deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I it's interesting. I knew you couldn't replace Tibbs

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Speaker 1: with anyone who hadn't been to the conference finals or beyond.

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Speaker 1: So he fits that. Bill. He's coached in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: He's coached superstars in the NBA. It's like, what were

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Speaker 1: our expectations? Were we expecting Red Arbak to be the guiter?

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Speaker 1: Like I don't really know what people what?

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Speaker 2: What people what people thought?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Right? I like, well Bill Jackson, Oh, Bill Jackson's not

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Speaker 1: the coach, but then I don't like him. Like again,

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Speaker 1: like this, that's not enough options out there when they

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Speaker 1: reached out and other guys are in a contract. Right,

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Speaker 1: you're the best man, Joy Summer League. Let's talk soon, okay,

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Speaker 1: h Doug, it's the Doug Outleb Show here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Umber throwing and a breaking off line the right center

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Speaker 2: base head.

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Speaker 9: There's Rooker the second off with the Wallas Harris around third.

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Speaker 9: The play to the plate is not nearly in time,

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Speaker 9: and Soners some walks it off for the A's starring

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Speaker 9: Rooker from second base and the Athletics and the eleventh

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Speaker 9: inning come back and they win the series.

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Speaker 1: How many people know that the A's are the Athletics?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know we all do, right, Buyer, you

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Speaker 1: just gave me a look, I'm senior.

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Speaker 2: I would say, like eighty five percent. Think I think

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Speaker 2: it's pretty high.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think it's as high

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Speaker 1: as you think. I think Oaklan age, Like what are

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Speaker 1: the oakle A's for? Like, I don't know, it's just

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Speaker 1: the A's. They have a big A gain you and

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Speaker 1: I do. I do because when I was I think

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Speaker 1: I was nine, I played on the A's. Uh, Jay Su,

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Speaker 1: what do you think percentages? Just getting your your thoughts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, hi, at least three quarters, Sam,

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Speaker 5: I do think that the Weed I think this show leads,

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Speaker 5: weads the league, leads the country. And trying to guess

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Speaker 5: what regular people think. Yeah, and it's always couched by

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Speaker 5: I know we know it because we were in sports,

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Speaker 5: But what are regular people?

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Speaker 4: I think a lot few, a lot more people don't

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Speaker 4: know that the Knicks are the Knickerbockers.

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Speaker 2: If that's like a parallel, it is.

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Speaker 1: It is a parallel. It's a good parallel. What are

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Speaker 1: the other ones that are shortened? Trying to think Oaklan,

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Speaker 1: the A's.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's an exhausting lists Terrapins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, uh do we know that the Knicks fighting

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Speaker 1: Irish fighting a line?

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Speaker 2: I I don't think that there's there's many, Sam, did

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Speaker 2: you know?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, again, Sam, you knew it is the athletics idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's seventy or higher with now.

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Speaker 1: I just again, I'm I don't know this to be

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Speaker 1: real stats, But I felt like there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that for a long time had no idea that

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Speaker 1: the Brewers, for example, in the National League, or that

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Speaker 1: the Astros in the American League like that took a

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Speaker 1: long time to really resonate with people, and as baseball is,

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Speaker 1: the A's used to be kind of a like a phenomenon. Right.

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Speaker 1: They had Charlie Finley as her owner. They had a

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Speaker 1: lot of cool hip stuff. Then they went from you know,

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Speaker 1: Reggie Jack to Ricky Henderson to the Bash brothers uh

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Speaker 1: And and Eckersley, and then they kind of became the

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Speaker 1: lapping stop of major League Baseball after Moneyball. I just

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many people go, like, what does

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Speaker 1: A stand for? Like the Oakland A's.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you this little known fact you may not

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Speaker 4: know about me. I was an Astros fan when I

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Speaker 4: was a kid. I like the Houston Astros, Glenn Davis.

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Speaker 4: Then he got Delta the Orioles in a deal involving

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Speaker 4: Kurt Shilling, Pete Harness, and Steve Finley. It was all

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Speaker 4: about the Killer Bees and Bagwell and Bigio. I remember

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Speaker 4: when Randy Johnson got traded there in ninety eight and

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Speaker 4: then they then the Brewers jumped to the National League and.

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Speaker 2: It's I'm sorry, and so right then it was kind of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I was just you was talking to Killer

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Speaker 1: Bees and it just the Bees made me have allergies.

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Speaker 1: I just steroids. Sorry, sorry about that. I just gotta

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Speaker 1: my sneeze usually comes in three, so just just be

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Speaker 1: wary of it. You're an Astros fan, huh.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like the old ass was Nolan Ryan.

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Speaker 2: They used to have broke their hearts in ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: Sure do you remember, like the old Astro's uniforms, like

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Speaker 1: with that whatever, the different colors, like almost the color

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Speaker 1: of the sunset across the front. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what that. Yeah, I again my only memories of pre

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Speaker 1: killer bees garroids.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But in Houston is who wasn't?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: Who was? I mean?

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Speaker 4: In Bizio bigioside think the story was great, starting out

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Speaker 4: as a catcher, moving positions to elongate his career.

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Speaker 1: Becomes Hall of Famer, remarkable, unbelievable. But before that era

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Speaker 1: of Astros, it was all Nolan Ryan, no hit or highlights. Right,

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