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Speaker 1: Welcome back to car Stories with some k and Amelia Hartford.

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Speaker 1: So hypothetical. Okay, so you're married, sure, okay, the future

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Speaker 1: all right? And I love your husband? Right, I hope?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I hope so too. Do you know the store

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Speaker 1: Ross and Marshall's. Yeah, okay, so pair of Nike socks

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Speaker 1: and Marshalls you could get like three for sometimes two

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Speaker 1: ninety nine, okay. At the Nike store they're like fourteen

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Speaker 1: ninety nine, yeah, ten nineteen ninety nine. If you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go buy a pair of Nike socks, would you go

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Speaker 1: to Ross Marshall's or would you go to the Nike store? Thoughts?

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Speaker 2: I think that's a two part answer.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I obviously.

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Speaker 2: In this scenario, Ross sounds like the better deal. But

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Speaker 2: the bigger question is what is your time worth? Are

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Speaker 2: you already purchasing a pair of Jordan Wants or a

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Speaker 2: sneaker at the Nike store and does your time cost

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Speaker 2: more for you to then drive to Ross to save

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Speaker 2: five dollars or does it make sense to buy the

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Speaker 2: difference and just buy the socks while you're there.

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Speaker 1: You're not at the store, not at the.

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Speaker 2: Store, just need socks and nothing else go to Ross, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: her marshals.

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Speaker 1: Or no, no matter if you win the lottery or.

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Speaker 2: Not, I feel like you just you can also shop

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Speaker 2: for other stuff. It depends what you want to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah wait, wait, you're not answering their question, so you wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: No, I said I'd go to it. Ross makes more

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Speaker 2: sense financially. But if I wanted to go buy some Nikes,

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Speaker 2: I might go shop at a Nike store and then

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Speaker 2: if I'm already there, then maybe I'll just buy the

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Speaker 2: socks there versus then making a second trip.

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Speaker 1: You know. So this Ross test, right, was something I

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Speaker 1: worked with this like super super famous like superstar actor

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Speaker 1: once right, I man named names and they announced that

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Speaker 1: his family was going to come visit set, and his

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Speaker 1: mother had a bag from Ross and had stuff that

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Speaker 1: she had bought from Ross, even with all the money

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Speaker 1: that this family has, the value system from the mother

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Speaker 1: and of course, like there's a time for luxury items, right,

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Speaker 1: But then the fact that she did not care that

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Speaker 1: it to this guy right with no like there was

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Speaker 1: no shame, there's no embarrassment, there's no pretense. It really

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Speaker 1: really impressed me, and I was like, I think that

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Speaker 1: is a great value system to have. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not against like bad things or expensive things or.

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Speaker 2: Truthfully part of buy socks. I'm probably gonna buy the

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Speaker 1: And nowadays, yeah, you don't even need to go to

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Speaker 1: Ross anymore. And you know that's the place that meet.

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Speaker 1: Me and my wife used to go on dates. We

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Speaker 1: used to go to Ikea.

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Speaker 2: I love Ikea and then walk around and get lost.

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Speaker 1: And then go eat in the cafeteria meatballs. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it was like so cheap. It was like under

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Speaker 1: would be a date. And then we would go to

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Speaker 1: a Marshals in way deep in North Hollywood that was

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Speaker 1: like the they called it. The managers there called it

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Speaker 1: the Flagship Marshals of the Valley.

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Speaker 2: There is a place deep in North Hollywood and I

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Speaker 2: forgot the name of it where I used to buy

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Speaker 2: I could find out on a map. I couldn't tell

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Speaker 2: it had a name, but it was this giant warehouse.

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Speaker 2: But then there'd be like one hundred different little stores

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Speaker 2: inside of it. But it wasn't even like stores. They'd

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Speaker 2: like different shoes lined.

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Speaker 1: Out like a swat meat.

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Speaker 2: Swat meat. Yeah, oh yeah, it was a swap meat,

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Speaker 2: but it was of new stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. My college roommate had parents sold nikes that had

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was the thing back in the day.

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Speaker 2: That's where I got my shoes for a while, the

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Speaker 2: same thing.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: They weren't shut No.

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't know, I thought there were. I

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Speaker 1: Well, anyway, thanks for answering that, yes question. I think

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Speaker 1: you'd make a good wife.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to our next guest. We have our

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Speaker 1: friend Ed Low, editor in chief of Motor Trend. That's right,

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Speaker 1: fascinating human being, the great history just I think there's

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Speaker 1: this like wisdom that he has.

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Speaker 2: And he's always been very passionate about education, whether it's

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Speaker 2: teaching at high school or even just helping teach on

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Speaker 2: the internet the history and love for cars.

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Speaker 1: What a great ambassador and we just learned a lot

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Speaker 1: about his history and also the future of the car industry.

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Speaker 1: So we get to sit down and listen to a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, without further ado Ed low Ed.

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Speaker 1: Even though he is a car afficionado, editor, car guru, evy,

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Speaker 1: forward thinking gentleman, he's actually a huge green thumb, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean you compared to a lot of other people

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Speaker 3: I like to like a little bit. My wife's more

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Speaker 3: what do you grow?

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Speaker 1: What do you grow?

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Speaker 3: We got like peppers, we grow like I like. I

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Speaker 3: like to saw a picture of that. I like peppers.

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Speaker 3: No like serranos. I'm a big Serrano pepper guy. I

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Speaker 3: don't know. We got tomatoes, little little tomatoes and strawberries.

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Speaker 2: I've been wanting to do like a strawberry garden, like

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Speaker 1: What about just citrus I have? I have three hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty nine trees. Wait what, but this house is

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Speaker 1: because I have a full orchard. We have so much citrus, avocados.

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Speaker 1: I have avocuta, but.

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Speaker 2: Avocados are hard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this for the past two years, nothing but the

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Speaker 3: You know how much you can get for avocados, Like

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Speaker 3: that's huckum avocados or I don't know, it's good cause

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Speaker 3: I grew up actually on avocado. I grew up. I

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Speaker 3: pick avocados from my parents. Really, they actually all that

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Speaker 3: mostly they've moved away from avocados, maybe because it's it's

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Speaker 3: so hard. I think all of our avocados come from Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Now Scott Bryan Scatto, he has an avocado he does farm.

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Speaker 1: So I grew up with like a greenhouse like attached

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Speaker 1: So I feel like I have this connection to plants.

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Speaker 1: So the avocado tree was like no avocados every year.

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Speaker 1: It worked that year. Then I stopped and no more avocados.

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Speaker 1: And so this particular tree, you have to go down.

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Speaker 2: Doing that, but it's a thing for plants to like

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Speaker 1: We used to do that at the greenhouse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wrote an article about apparently plants can

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Speaker 3: actually they've proven they can communicate with each other. There's

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Speaker 1: And then we had a conversation years ago. Was it

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is. This is I mean, this is I

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Speaker 3: is like I grew up in an era where Thanksgiving

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Speaker 3: would there's your fertilizer. Yeah, I don't know, but these

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to use fertilizer. That I'm very proud.

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Speaker 3: That level of disruption is coming to cars. And yeah,

436
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Speaker 3: I'm a little worked up. Can kind of motion. I'm

437
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 3: a little worked up about it. This is where to

438
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Speaker 3: bring it all the way back. I own. I own

439
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Speaker 3: a couple of eighties era cars. I love that stuff

440
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Speaker 3: I've got. I've shown I showed my Porsche lift gool like.

441
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 3: I get it. But there's so much more going on

442
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 3: in the future space if you can get your head

443
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Speaker 3: around it and get out of your own way about

444
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Speaker 3: what's coming for automotive, Because it's like the asteroid for

445
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Speaker 3: the dinosaurs. It's gonna when this thing lands, when this

446
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: when this ship cares you, well, it's it doesn't scare

447
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 3: me because luckily for me. Like here's the other thing

448
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 3: I tell people EV SDV and tchunk combustion, end of

449
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 3: the day, we're motor trend. They're always going to be cars.

450
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Speaker 3: I want to turn seventy five this year. We've been

451
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Speaker 3: giving car the Year since year one. So car of

452
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Speaker 3: the Year is our biggest, most famous word. Everybody knows it.

453
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Speaker 3: We don't call it EV of the Year. We're not

454
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Speaker 3: going to call it software to find vocal year and

455
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Speaker 3: of the day. It's just a car. It's just a truck,

456
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Speaker 3: no matter what power is it, no matter if it

457
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Speaker 3: drives itself, still a car. So that's how that's that's

458
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Speaker 3: how I see the world.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like that's going to change? Like car

460
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Speaker 1: communities and totally car culture totally Like how how does

461
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Speaker 1: Amelia do a YouTube video about modifying a fully EVA

462
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Speaker 1: software updated car.

463
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Speaker 3: It's a great question, and I think the people who

464
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Speaker 3: are thoughtful about EV's and what's coming and still hate

465
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Speaker 3: on them, they go right to that point, which is, well,

466
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Speaker 3: I don't want a car to drive me number one,

467
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Speaker 3: So I don't want autonomous, which I get and then

468
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Speaker 3: there's this whole other issue of right to repair. You know,

469
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Speaker 3: you go back to why are manufacturers so interested in

470
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Speaker 3: going to EV's right. What's the reason. It's not that

471
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Speaker 3: they can charge a lot more money for them, because

472
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Speaker 3: actually that's a huge problem for the manufacturers. The issue is,

473
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Speaker 3: end of the day, when you scale these companies and

474
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Speaker 3: you and you're trying to sell cars across not just

475
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Speaker 3: a country, but continents, different markets. It's way cheaper to

476
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Speaker 3: run an EV. Evs a battery, it's a motor, some wiring,

477
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Speaker 3: some software code. You know what you don't need. You

478
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 3: don't need an emissions testing lab. You don't need to

479
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Speaker 3: federalize a power plant for California separate from the rest

480
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 3: of the country or for Europe. You can just sell

481
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Speaker 3: one electric motor and a battery combination around the world.

482
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Speaker 3: It doesn't emit anything. There are like ten times fewer

483
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Speaker 3: parts in an EV than there are in an internal

484
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Speaker 3: combustion equivalent.

485
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Speaker 2: Just to interject real quick and doing me wrong, and like,

486
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Speaker 2: I'm pro EV, I have no problem again some I'm

487
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Speaker 2: excited for the future of them. But I asked this

488
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Speaker 2: question because I don't know. I have heard though that

489
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Speaker 2: it is worse in the environment to make the batteries

490
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Speaker 2: and then dispose of them. Is that true?

491
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Speaker 3: So that's a very complicated question. This will be a

492
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Speaker 3: topic to be debated in the comment section wherever this appears,

493
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 3: all science on all platforms the sciences. It depends a

494
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Speaker 3: who you ask and how big you want to take

495
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Speaker 3: this question. First of all, there are there's a lot

496
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Speaker 3: of incentives going on to develop all the industries that

497
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: surround electrification. Okay, so for instance, you've mentioned battery recycling.

498
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Speaker 3: What happens at the end of the life in the batteries.

499
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Speaker 3: There are a ton of uses. So when the battery,

500
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Speaker 3: let's say, falls out of spec and it's ah, you know,

501
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Speaker 3: it's only got like eighty percent of life, let that

502
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: battery has a lot of other uses. That battery could

503
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Speaker 3: be used industrially. You can put it into a house

504
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 3: or business. It can be a storage battery. There are

505
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Speaker 3: minerals and materials in the battery themselves that can be recycled.

506
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Speaker 3: So one of the longtime executives at Tesla, this guy JB. Straubel,

507
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Speaker 3: he left Tesla. He was their CTO for many many years,

508
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Speaker 3: and he started a new company called Redwood materials, and

509
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Speaker 3: they are looking into recycling these batteries at scale. How

510
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Speaker 3: do we buy them all back? A lot of the

511
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Speaker 3: major carcum Toyota tries to buy all their PREUS batteries

512
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Speaker 3: back because you can fundamentally reuse these items. Now, there

513
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Speaker 3: are lots of people on both sides who will do

514
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Speaker 3: the calculations and show you that if you do it

515
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Speaker 3: this way, it's cleaner, and it's cleaner by this much,

516
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Speaker 3: or the other guy says no, but you know you're

517
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Speaker 3: not factory, that you got to ship this material from here,

518
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: or this one's got to go from herere My take

519
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: on it is overall, I love internal combustion. We have

520
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 3: been living in the golden age of horsepower. We have

521
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: never had cars that are internal combustion, cars that are

522
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Speaker 3: more powerful, more efficient, cleaner. We want that same level

523
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Speaker 3: of investment and evolution to take place with the entire

524
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Speaker 3: process behind even hydrogen vehicles, but electric vehicles. I'd rather

525
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Speaker 3: be on the cutting edge of this. I'm happy that

526
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Speaker 3: we're doing it. It is a solution. Maybe it's not

527
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Speaker 3: the best solution, but at least we're working towards the

528
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Speaker 3: greater solution versus like I just want to do the

529
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Speaker 3: same thing we've been doing for the last you know,

530
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Speaker 3: seventy five years, and that's cool, not really, you know.

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Speaker 1: I thought ev cars were going to be the end

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Speaker 1: of car culture or enthusiasts. And I got the opportunity

533
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Speaker 1: to drive the day Ionic five n and then I

534
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Speaker 1: got to write in their rift version of it too.

535
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Speaker 1: At first, I never thought these words would come out

536
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: of my mouth that well, this was the coolest car

537
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: that I've ever driven in and you forget that you're

538
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Speaker 1: in an electric car. And it converted me like right away,

539
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Speaker 1: and it was like I couldn't believe like a Hyundai

540
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 1: actually did it. So I was like, well, you can

541
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Speaker 1: modify this car, like you could be an enthusiast and

542
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Speaker 1: customize it.

543
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: And I would say, I would say customize, not modify,

544
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Speaker 3: and because break sure, sure, I don't know that they're

545
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Speaker 3: gonna I don't know if they're selling that well.

546
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Speaker 2: Code for software updates. But I think to your point,

547
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: some car culture is car culture. I don't just because

548
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 2: the power plant changes. I don't think that's gonna you know,

549
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 2: I'd like to believe it doesn't change anyone's love for

550
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Speaker 2: cars and having them be more than just a to B.

551
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Speaker 2: You can personalize them and have a community around that.

552
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Speaker 3: So let me just because I don't want to be

553
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Speaker 3: unfairly painted like this. Oh it is just like this

554
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 3: EV guy's always going to talk about EV Like, I

555
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 3: totally get it. The existential threat for the community of

556
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: car enthusiasts as it currently stands is that evs present

557
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: a level of potential sort of commodification, right, Like, what

558
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: do we know now about EV's About Tesla's like the

559
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 3: fastest cars out there? It used to be a Tesla

560
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: mode less plaid right now it's this thing called the

561
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: lucid Air. Lucid Air Sapphire is the quickest and the

562
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 3: most efficient vehicle. The rimats is I think it is

563
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: the quickest and possibly has the topsy record. Anyways, when

564
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 3: you talk to people about well, yeah, but you know

565
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: they're quiet, they're fast. You drive around La, everyone's in

566
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 3: a Model Y. They all look the same, They're all

567
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 3: painted white or black or silver. Like that is the

568
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: fear when all EV's are quiet and all EV's are fast, Like,

569
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: who's going to care about trying to go faster? Right that?

570
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: And I get that, I totally understand, right, And this

571
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 3: is where the manufacturers are really be tested, because then

572
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: it comes down to how much is your brand actually worth?

573
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 3: How much is that story when Ferrari they said they weren't.

574
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: They're probably going to have to when they make a

575
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: full EV. How are they going to set themselves apart? Right?

576
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: Is it just going to be the styling, because that's

577
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: that's something that far has always had, like great style,

578
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: very sexy. Right, But if there's a car there there's

579
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 3: a tuzzle that's quicker or almost as fast and it's

580
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 3: a quarter of the price, how much do you really care?

581
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: I think that's where people are like, this is why

582
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: I don't want these EV's coming.

583
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Speaker 2: As far as we know, in fifteen years, cars are flying,

584
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: so it's supposed to happen. You're drifting. It's going to

585
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: be the new thing.

586
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: It's not going to happen in the US first, but

587
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: it's definitely going to come in China. We talked. We

588
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: just talked to a guy who said, yeah, end of

589
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: this year. Xpang. Is this one of these Chinese companies

590
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 3: that as they launched it at CS they showed this

591
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Speaker 3: flying car.

592
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Speaker 2: I saw it at CS.

593
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, the one that had to fold out. It looks

594
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: like it. It basically looks like a DGI Mavig. There's

595
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: that one. The other one, which was more mind blowing

596
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: to me because it looks six was a six wheel version

597
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: of it. Okay, it had the it looks like a

598
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: cool van, but the entire back section pops out and

599
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: it's a little personal helicopter for two. Yeah, and I

600
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: didn't see that. And that one is apparently going to

601
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: be flying somewhere, probably in China by the end of

602
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: this year. They're already starting to take orders the car.

603
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: The six wheel car is a hybrid, the helicopter is electric,

604
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: and the car chassis acts as the charging station. I mean,

605
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: it's literally like what you can do with the drone.

606
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: So you pull up someplace, the back door open, the

607
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: things lads out.

608
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Speaker 2: You need a rotary license to fly that, which is expensive,

609
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: and it's gonna.

610
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: You just need to be rich. Yeah, you just go,

611
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: just go do anything. The question is when is anything

612
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen in the US. And that's where I've

613
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: been challenging everybody to talk to. I'm like, come on,

614
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: there are like twenty million things that have to happen

615
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: before any of us are going to be able to

616
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: like what are we gonna do, Like we're gonna like

617
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Speaker 3: just up stopped in traffic on the one on one

618
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: and then take off Like no, like you can't, you

619
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Speaker 3: just can't do that.

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Speaker 1: So I at first ten people can do that. After

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Speaker 1: that it's like nope.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So I mean look from a brand motor Tain

623
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Speaker 3: has been covering flying cars literally for seventy five years,

624
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Speaker 3: every like two years, car a flying car on the

625
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Speaker 3: car sign. When does that happening? And it's like I've

626
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Speaker 3: always said it's going to happen after the mid engine Corvette,

627
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: and you know, so here we are, so it's gonna

628
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Speaker 3: happen pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: You have such a forward thinking, like perspective on life.

630
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Speaker 1: Even I was reading this like article on you and

631
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Speaker 1: the interview gave like you're one of the few people

632
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Speaker 1: in my generation that is like pro social media. Where

633
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Speaker 1: does that perspective come from? Like how why are you

634
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Speaker 1: so forward thinking opposed to other old parts that are

635
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: just like stuck in their ways.

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Speaker 3: It's very kind. I hope that it's still true. I

637
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: have been with more Trend for a long time. So

638
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: I started at the company. I started the industry in

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Speaker 3: two thousand and two, thousand and one at the little

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Speaker 3: tiny these these import magazines in Orange County. But I

641
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: joined the company that's now motor Trend in two thousand

642
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: and six, and officially at Motorshow in two thousand and seven.

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00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: And I was there, I saw we used to be

644
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: on Wilshire Boulevard and it was a Peterson Publishing building

645
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: and we shared offices with the guys at Superstreet. So

646
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: this is a great story because you guys, you guys

647
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: are enormous on Instagram. The editor in chief of super

648
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Speaker 3: Shit at the time, Johnny Wong, is a good good

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Speaker 3: friend of mine. He said, yo, yo, yo, you got

650
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Speaker 3: to check out this thing called Instagram. And I was

651
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: using Hipstomatic, this camera app. I was like, you know,

652
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: filters and cool. I like to take pictures. It's like,

653
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: show me Instagram. I was all right, cool, and I

654
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: was like I couldn't figure it out. I'm like, what

655
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: is I don't know? Like, so you take a picture

656
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: you posted like who cares?

657
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: Like?

658
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: I was just in the camera and the photography and

659
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: the filter aspect. I did not understand the network, the

660
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: social networks out of it. So I slept on it.

661
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: I was like, cool, not for me. I came back

662
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: to it six months later because I heard something about like,

663
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: oh dude, supershates a taken off. So then I put

664
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: motor Trend. I finally set up motor Trend on Instagram,

665
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: and two years later Superstreet hit like a million followers

666
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: and then two million, and Motor tred had like one

667
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: hundred and like eighty thousand. And that was the difference

668
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: in me sleeping on it and waiting six months. Wow,

669
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: So what it ed learned? It's like, Okay, any new

670
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: social media platform that comes up, I'm all over it.

671
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: So do you, as an individual think about the legacy

672
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: you want to leave behind? Because you have this incredible

673
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: I'd say motor Trend is a platform itself. But do

674
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: you as a person you're very forward thinking, You're working

675
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: with a brand that is very forward thinking. Do you

676
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: have a legacy of stuff you want to leave behind

677
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: for the next generation? Are you thinking about that?

678
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: Not really to be a starter y? Yeah?

679
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: No, I mean it's very flattering for you for you

680
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: to say that. I mean, I I do think of

681
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: myself as more of a steward of this seventy five

682
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: year old brand. I was editor. I was named editor

683
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: in chief in twenty eleven, we don't have that title anymore,

684
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: but I've been with the brand in a leadership position

685
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: basically since then, so it does really feel like a

686
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: part of me. And again turning seventy five this year

687
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: and then thinking about, like, man, I've been with this

688
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: brand for like fifteen years, and it sounds hokey, but

689
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: like I wanted to be successful for the next seventy

690
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: five years, we've already we've gotten this point. It'd be

691
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 3: great to if somebody if my you know, my three

692
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: year old son is you know, eighty, and he's like,

693
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: what ver you used to work on that thing? You know,

694
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: back when he was still alive and I was heads

695
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: in a jar and I could ask him about what.

696
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: It's like because oh god, yeah, and they've still.

697
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: We uploaded his consciousness to to to sky in it

698
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: and we can ask him what it was like to

699
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: drive cars and when you put gas in them.

700
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: And you draw them yourself, Like how weird is that?

701
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: And you almost went into snowboarding right like you're you

702
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: you went deep? Yeah, hey, I gotta do my research,

703
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: my guests.

704
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 3: I did. I I was pretty into snowboarding in college.

705
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: Do you still snowboard.

706
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: I got some shoulder stuff, so I not as much lately.

707
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out this year whether we get

708
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: the kid on the We're gonna get him on the snow,

709
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: but I were gonna put him on ski. I learned

710
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: skiing first and then I transitioned. Snowboarding came up when

711
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: I was in high school, so I did that. But yeah,

712
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: I done this program called Teach for America. That's my

713
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 3: first job out of school, high school in Pasadena. And

714
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: coming out of that job, I applied for a program

715
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: at Burton. They were doing a program called Chill, and

716
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: I was teaching inner city youth how to snowboard.

717
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: That's cools chill, yeah.

718
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: Exactly, and Teach for America has that had a similar mission.

719
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: It was all about, you know, going to underserved schools

720
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: and teaching so like you'd be perfect. This is year

721
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: one of the program. I remember I was talking to

722
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: my dad about it, and I remember he seems I

723
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: was like, should I go do this job with this

724
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: publishing company or should you go be like the snowboard

725
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: shot And he's like, you went to college to be

726
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: a snowboarding structor. So I was like so and ultimately

727
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: ended up being the right decision, although that that chill

728
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 3: program went on for years.

729
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: That statement from your dad actually made me laugh because

730
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: I read that he said they're both bad. I clear options,

731
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: but this one as a publisher is better than snowboarning.

732
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's funny. I mean, my dad means

733
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: while he still I don't think he understands what I

734
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: have done. Uh, he didn't for a long time. He's like,

735
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: my kid's like a photographer or cars or something.

736
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: I read your dad had an eighty one R seven,

737
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: the eighty one that would be the FB. Yes, yeah,

738
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: that was ay man. I remember seeing that car as

739
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: a kid. My neighbor had one. He would take me

740
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: for rides. I was like, yeah, you had to be

741
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: a super cool dude and a real like out of

742
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: the box thinker to have that type of car in Georgia.

743
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean, and your dad had dadda.

744
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 3: You called him a super cool dude.

745
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: But your mother, your mother even cooler because I read

746
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: that she had a Mini Vana Toyota party.

747
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, right, the father of this figure out. Yeah,

748
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: so well, my dad's a My dad was a cardiologist

749
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: and he was the first cardiologist in our town, little town, Camerillo.

750
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: My parents moved there in the seventies. Actually I was

751
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: born in Saint Louis. So my dad wooed my mom

752
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: and said, come to America, right, and he brought her

753
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: over there. I mean, they've been in Hong Kong, but

754
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: they moved her over here. And Hessa and she's like

755
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: this same, this is way too cold. We get out here,

756
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: so I want palm trees. Moved to California. Yeah, my

757
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: dad's successful. He bought this RX seven and this is

758
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: a great story because he bought it and everybody's first

759
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: ARC seven in town. I was like, that's awesome. And

760
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: I remember this is back in the day when I

761
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: got a brother, older brother, younger sister. Is a two

762
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: C car and like, I'm sitting on the package shelf

763
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 3: in the back and my sister's in the foot well,

764
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: my brother's in the stuff in the seat. We're driving around.

765
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: And he said, though inside of a year, that car

766
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 3: developed a crack in the dash. And he's like, man

767
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: like Japanese cars man, still not there yet. So he

768
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 3: sold it. And he told me he sold it freshing

769
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: more than he bought it. The fast forward though, and

770
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: this this park kills me because I think it was

771
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: someone around his midlife crisis era. He was like, I

772
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: need to buy a cool, cool sports car. We were

773
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: a Honda and a Toya family, and so we had

774
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 3: good connections to the handa guy the Handa de ships. Heymen,

775
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: and this new car coming in it's called it Acura

776
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 3: and Essex and checked this thing out, you know ninety one.

777
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, my.

778
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 3: Dad goes there and he looks at it. He's like, wow,

779
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: this seems really cool. I mean I think we had

780
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: gone in testro of like the prelude too. I was like,

781
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: this thing is awesome. There's one with the digital digital

782
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: cluster right, and he sat that he looked at He's like,

783
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 3: this thing reminds me of that R seven I had,

784
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: Like you know what, that thing got a crack in

785
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: the dash instead of year, I think they got figured out.

786
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: He went instead and bought eighty seven nine to eleven,

787
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: like a nine thirty turbow. Second owner Litt Miles, I

788
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 3: was so mashed. I was like, get out of this.

789
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: You know. They got this German car with the bround

790
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: headlights looks like a BW like like nine thirties. Back

791
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: in THO was like mid nineties. There weren't that cool.

792
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 3: It was like yeah, everybody, I mean it was cool,

793
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: but they weren't like there looked cool. Yeah right now right.

794
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 3: And I still think about that because actually it probably

795
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 3: saved me because I would have like snucked that car

796
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: out or convinced my dad I should have it, and

797
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: I would like slammed it and wrapped around a tree

798
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 3: or something like that.

799
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: You know, when I was on your show and I

800
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: brought up the the CNN I'd love for this year,

801
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: Johnny had such a like reaction to it. Huh, simple

802
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: man child that Johnny. He did not like that answer

803
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: that I love the CNA, which but the rest of

804
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: the minivan owners in the world used that clip.

805
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: Actually did I tell you?

806
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you this. I didn't get the overage.

807
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: So I was I was at this thing events and

808
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: then this little Asian woman walks up to me and

809
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: she's like, hey, I just want to say thank you

810
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: on behalf of Toyota, and I was like what. She goes, yeah,

811
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: I work in the Sienna department. And so there's this

812
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: clip of you on The Inevitable Show, like going around

813
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: Toyota for like bragging, right because you know we get

814
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: no love. We're in at the cool department and it's

815
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: like Han loves the Sienna. It's like we just want

816
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: to say thank you. I was like, you're welcome.

817
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 3: People think it's a joke, but you got to respect

818
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: the mission of the minivan, which is to deliver, Yes, sir,

819
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 3: maximum value, maximum cargo and passengers carrier capacity. And I'm

820
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: talking of efficiency. You know, all of this in a

821
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: package that is reasonably fun to drive, safe, has all

822
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: the bells and whistles, passes the NITSA and safety test

823
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: when you have that. And I do love a Sienna

824
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: because it's got like the most amazing fuel economy. That's

825
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: a big problem a lot of these things. You put

826
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 3: all that package together and your your your mileage goes

827
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 3: to hell. This thing does really really well. There is

828
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: six miles a gown all day long. Couple holds exactly

829
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: so you know, I can't wait and then I'll just

830
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 3: bring it all the way home. One of these guys

831
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 3: they got they gotta make the ev I'm just waiting

832
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: for the Evy minivan, Like that's it. It's got to

833
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: be full electric, like where is it?

834
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: Oh for sure doors.

835
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: Can we just talk about how much time in your

836
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: life you have saved with dual sliding doors?

837
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's like motion.

838
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you hit the butt, your hands a full, you

839
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: come up to it. It opens. If you're listening at

840
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: home and you are in a position where you can

841
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: get your phone out, go to Instagram. Just hit up

842
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: the account van culture with a K, y z A

843
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 3: N k U L t U r E Van Culture.

844
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: It's like sickest rides, thickest big wheel, air bags, air bags, dumped, tucking.

845
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: It's amazing. So I dan culture, Baby.

846
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: I'm all about it with a K and I'm I

847
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: just I've got to play this whole simmy for Johnny.

848
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: He'll be vomiting on the floor.

849
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: I never thought I would fall in love with the minivan. Really,

850
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: I like my whole life. I'm like, I would see

851
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: people driving a minivan or guys driving the man and

852
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: I go castration, like what's up with you, dude? And

853
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: then I was hanging out with a high school baseball

854
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: coach who drove an early model Sienna and this guy,

855
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, was a super well respected man. I knew

856
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: that he had money too, write, but he's just so understated.

857
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: And he drove a Sienna and had an early Tacoma right,

858
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: and I asked him. I was like, hey, coach, what's

859
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: up with this minivan? It's like and he's like, hey,

860
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: I can carry the team. It's like it's understated. It's

861
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: like reseal it. I could sell it for probably fifteen

862
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: grand now, right, They last forever. It's like, Wow, as

863
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: I get older, you know, it's like I'd start looking

864
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: at those attributes, like is something that I really respect.

865
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: So when I had my nephew live with me, it

866
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: was the excuse to get a minivan. And then I

867
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: got the dog and I was like, hey, I got

868
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: a family man, I need to get a mini van.

869
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: And this is really hard to get.

870
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: If you're listening. A Meal is not buying any of it.

871
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: No, I know, I trust me. I know he is

872
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: so so.

873
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: He's trying to get to get.

874
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: I get the appeal to them of mattress in the back.

875
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: It's like a home on wheels. You know, you have.

876
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: Explain this.

877
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: All you got to say is if you come arrive

878
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: at a point in your life when you need to

879
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 3: carry that many people and park in a reasonably sized

880
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: parking spot or he doesn't. I know, I know, but

881
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 3: it's a pure love for the mini van. It's they're comfortable. Again.

882
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: I can't speak enough about the dual sliding doors. Like

883
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: I just love that song. Yeah, like I would buy

884
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: if you started out.

885
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: I just don't think. I don't think you're looking for

886
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: like true like happiness in your life currently you like

887
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable, right.

888
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: Why are the smiles per gallon? Again?

889
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: But Santa has eighteen cup holders though Porsche ninet eleven

890
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: is like two.

891
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're starting on, you know you're you're actually

892
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 3: onto something, which is thank you vehicles like minivans, any

893
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 3: of the American vehicles. What I love about this country

894
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: is that we are so demanding and of the things

895
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: we want, and a lot of the rest of the

896
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: world goes. Man, you guys are what like that's crazy.

897
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: For the longest time, German car manufacturers like, we're not

898
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: going to put a cup We're not put a cup

899
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: holder in a Porsche. If you're gonna drive this car,

900
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: you're gonna drive it. Don't be a big drinking stuff.

901
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: That's why even when they did, they were terrible. These

902
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: couples like pop out of the dash and they can't

903
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: hold anything. They made it so I can hold a

904
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: red Bull because they like to drink red Bull in

905
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: Europe in the skinny can, but everything else will like

906
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: fall out.

907
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 2: The Lamborghini has an eight thousand dollars cup holder upgrade, right.

908
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 3: Right, that's like that's the total fust, right Like America,

909
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 3: We're like I need big gulp, Yeah, we want. I

910
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: want to put this giant thing in here. I want

911
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: to put my purse on this big bag underneath it

912
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: like we do. We'll put like eighteen USB ports everywhere

913
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: like customers always.

914
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: Right, that's America. I have two questions for you, okay. One,

915
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: you're a teacher for two years science teacher, high school, right,

916
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: public school? What did you learn from your time as

917
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: a teacher that has helped you throughout life or in

918
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: your other careers. I don't think teachers get enough credit,

919
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: first of all, in America, especially public school teachers. You know,

920
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: they are the foundation of America, this country. I mean,

921
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: what was the takeaway for you? So good question.

922
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: So just to some context, I did it pro I

923
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: went to USC So I went to school locally here

924
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 3: in La and I was a science major. And in school,

925
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: one of my jobs was I was an SAT tutor,

926
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: so I was pretty good at teaching kids. So I

927
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: ended up teaching Capacady Nosad High Passador in a high

928
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: school home with the Bulldogs Red and White Grade school.

929
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: I was a volleyball coach. I was the Asian American Club.

930
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: We started in Asian American Club. I did help through

931
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: the yearbook. I was taking pictures and the takeaway was

932
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: it was the hardest job I've ever had. Again, California

933
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: public schools I think are better. Back of the day,

934
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 3: it's pretty rough. The start of the year at fifty

935
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: five students in a class fifty five maybe seats for

936
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 3: forty five to fifty, so kids were sharing seats. The

937
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 3: textbook we were teaching from was as old as the kids,

938
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: so the kids were born eighty one, the textbook was

939
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: publishing eighty one. They were showing pictures of a computers,

940
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: like room sized computers. One day you have a computer

941
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: that you can use, And I was like, these kids like,

942
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 3: what is this right? And so under resourced and you

943
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 3: you know, in this high school. So it was fifty

944
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: five kids every fifty five minutes, they'd switch over and

945
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: I'm twenty two years old and I was teaching. Three

946
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: of my classes were juniors and seniors. So I'm teaching

947
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: kids who are four years younger than me and I

948
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: look like them, and I was getting stuck, like high school.

949
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: The security They're like, where's your past. I'm like, yo,

950
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: I got I put a tie on. I took my

951
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: shirt in like I'm just going to get a bite.

952
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: Man.

953
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 3: The teacher's cafeteria. So hardest job I've ever had. Everything

954
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: else after that was a piece of cake. So I

955
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: think I learned work ethic. I learned how to speak

956
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: in front of a lot of people and wing it

957
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: like a lot. So that's where I get the gift

958
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: of gab. And a couple guys are in the industry.

959
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: They're they're like, oh, man, mister Lowe, you were at

960
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: remember I was a PHS. I'm like, yeah, it's like, dude.

961
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 3: One dude works at like Toyota Connected. He works for

962
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: their new their software to fine vehicle division. He was

963
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: like as a student in my in one of the clubs,

964
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: was an advisorund.

965
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, so this question, it's a deeper question. I

966
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: read that you know your your mother passed away when

967
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: you were young, pretty young, right after.

968
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: Senior year of college, so it's twenty two.

969
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you deal with that?

970
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: The weirdest thing I did was immediately afterwards, I immediately

971
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: got interested in I had some stamps lying around and

972
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: I just organized them all in a in a stamp album.

973
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: I spent like two weeks just I sit down and

974
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: just organize these stamps and they're from all over Hong

975
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: Kong and stuff. And I still have that stampout. But

976
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: I don't know why I did it. But that's that

977
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: was sort of the most direct thing I can tell you.

978
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: The rest of it. I mean, I thought a lot

979
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: about it over time. I thought, first of all, death

980
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: is obviously it's a it's a fact of life. It's

981
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 3: going to happen. I have some friends that have either

982
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: just gone through that with a parent or about to,

983
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: and the only thing I can tell them that I've

984
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: told them to in council is don't rush any part

985
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: of the of the process, especially after it happens. So,

986
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: you know, for me, I think we all kind of

987
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 3: went back to what we were doing. And we were

988
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 3: so young at the time, you know, we were my

989
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: sister was in college, I was just graduating. My brother

990
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: was like two years out. And I mean I remember

991
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 3: for me, it happened about two months before I graduated

992
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: from college. So I told all my professors on the hey, uh,

993
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 3: there's a sudden illness my mom. I was really sick,

994
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna have to be bail from classes. And

995
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: then she passed. And then a couple of weekscater I

996
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 3: went back and I took my finals, and I remember

997
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 3: one of the counselors was like, you know, you don't

998
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: have to do this. You can come back in a year,

999
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: you can come back in two years, take as much

1000
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: time as you know. I'm like, it's cool. I just

1001
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 3: took it. And then I went and started this teacher

1002
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: training program, and then I was teaching high school like

1003
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 3: four months later. And I look back at that time

1004
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, like, didn't have to rush. Any

1005
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: of that could have take gap years or a thing

1006
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: could have taken a year off. Everybody would have been

1007
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 3: okay with it. You tell any program like yo, man,

1008
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 3: parent died, I would like to take some time, they'd

1009
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: be like, cool, man, just let us know like that,

1010
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: these mechanisms are in place everywhere. So that's what I

1011
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 3: tell people, I'm like, if this is happening, is these

1012
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 3: are major life events. Don't don't diminish it, just accept it,

1013
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: deal with it, and when you're ready, move on, do

1014
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: your things.

1015
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: Great advice, Thanks Ed. I appreciate we're driving all the

1016
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: way from That's right, no traffic for you, guys.

1017
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: He'll take the four or five to the one on

1018
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: one for us any day, exactly