1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: We have Clarence Clarence, Roger Roger. What's our back there, 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Victor our radio Clarence over, Clarence over over Roger, Ron Ananian, 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: there's a certain air of the carl solve problem for me. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: It'll keep me safe, you'll keep me out of the 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: accident until you have one. Surely, can't be serious. I 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: am serious. Don't call me that car doctor. We were 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: told that it was the evaporator and in order to 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: repair it, the dashboard and the steering wheel would have 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: to be removed and then put back in. Right, that's correct, 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: And my husband said this sounds like brain surgery. He's 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: placed the d n are on the car, all right 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: against Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Nian 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: world over turned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors are open, 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: but I here to take your calls at eight five 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: five five six. And now man top dog cheese key running, Hey, 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: it's time to start your engines along and welcome Ron 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: and any in the car doctor here at eight five 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: five five zero nine zero zero here to take your 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: calls and answer your questions about your automobile, whatever you've 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: got going on, if it's centered around that four wheel 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: wonder in your driveway or garage, and then this is 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: the place to call. Eight five five five zero nine 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. We're glad you took some time to 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: spend with us this weekend as we look forward to 28 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: talking to you for the next two hours about automotive 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: repair and some of the problems you may be having 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: and some of the news that's going on in the industry. 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: There's an awful lot going on. Um, we want to 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: comment a little bit real quick about Hurricane Dorian. Right. 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: It's you know, the tragedy of it, the human tragedy 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: of it, the cost in dollars, and and you know 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: we're already talking about it here in studio today, the 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: storm that's being created, the damage being done to automobiles, 37 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: and and what's the used car market going to be 38 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: like after the hurricane and water logged cars and we 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: have to start to think about that as well. And 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the damages you know, not just measured in human tragedy 41 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: in dollars, but you know, seven eight months nine months, 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: ten months from now, it'll it'll still be around and 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: we have to be aware of it. So, um, just 44 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: to mention that and put that out there. There's that 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: hurricane that's brewing. There's other hurricanes that are brewing to 46 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: By the way, you should get out to autocare dot org. 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: Autocare dot org, click on the newsroom, click on their 48 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: news button and scroll down. The Autocare Association is really 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: out there trying to make all of us aware of 50 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: what's going on inside the industry. They've got a great 51 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: article there on the listed on the website by The 52 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: New York Times talking about the topic of who has 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: ownership and control over the data being collected by vehicles. 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: We actually talked about this some time ago, that the 55 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: car companies know they your car knows when you gain weight, 56 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: your car knows when you change your driving habits. Your 57 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: car is collecting data on you, and the Autocare Association 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: is making the argument that it's your right to it. 59 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: It's your data, it's it's your car. And who are 60 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: these people to be able to, in a sense, spy 61 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: on you. Maybe that's not their words and thoughts about 62 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: their mind. I think, um, I think the vehicle data 63 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: issue is a big, big topic, and it needs to 64 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: be discussed and at least kicked around the table a 65 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: couple of times with the folks at autocare dot org. 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: If you get out there, click on the news button, 67 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: you'll also see some of the other things they're talking about, UM, 68 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: some of the issues regarding right to repair and some 69 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: of the other interesting things going on in the Automobile Association. 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: So you want to get out there and take a 71 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: look at that hurricane as well. UM, let's get over 72 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: and let's let's start. Let's I wanted to tell the 73 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: story about but you know what, the phone's already backed up. 74 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: We've already got a hurricane of our own brewing. And 75 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: let's get over there and talk to Gordon online one 76 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: and see what's going on. Gordon. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 77 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: How can I help? Yes, good afternoon, Thank you for 78 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: taking my call. Run You're very welcome. I've I've never 79 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: done this before, looking to replace my flile truck and 80 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: I found going down in uh Massachusetts or someone Bradley, Maine, 81 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: four hours away. UM, They've given me the option that 82 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: they would take it to a local mechanic and have it, 83 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, give it a once over so I can 84 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: be kind of sure that this is gonna work. Uh. 85 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: I have no idea how to pick a mechanic that 86 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: far away. You know, you look on the website and 87 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: you just get list of them, and everybody's and every 88 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: and everybody's great and warm and wonderful. It's you know, 89 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: it's exactly. It's like your relatives are coming at the 90 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: holidays and nobody's gonna argue and everybody's gonna behave themselves. Um. 91 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: Somehow it never works out like that in every home. 92 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the truck a little bit. It's 93 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: a two thousand four How many miles were on it? 94 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: Hud and F two fifty f three fifty um U 95 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: F F two fifties super duty XLT Okay, and you're 96 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: buying something this sold with this many miles because why 97 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: I just need some yard truck. Okay, Wow, I got 98 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: a four foot driveway. So so oh, um, your your 99 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: concerns here are gonna be rust all right and and 100 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: ross you know it's is there is there a working 101 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: plow on the truck already? Yes? And how much money 102 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: do they want for this thing? Uh? It sounds like 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: a lot of money, doesn't it. Sixth grade six grand 104 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: for a fifteen year old truck with almost two hundred 105 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it. Yep, and the bodies and you 106 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: know from pictures there's not gonna be good shape. And 107 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: it is it is stickered because here's here's here's my 108 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: question before we even start looking for a garage, is 109 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: is it the original trans is at the original engine? 110 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: Has the engine ever had any engine work? As the 111 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: engine had the typical they go through. Uh, they have 112 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: valve timing component issues, cam phasers and and timing chain issues. 113 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: Has it had any of that work done to it? 114 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: You know, are you spending Are you spending sixth grand 115 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: on a fifteen year old truck with two hund thousand 116 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: miles on it? And I know what you're hoping for, 117 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: you're hoping not they have to spend any money on it. 118 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, if that truck six months from 119 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: now pops the trans and the trans is, oh, I 120 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: don't know four grand to put in it? You're gonna 121 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: put four grand in it? Nope? So so then let's 122 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,559 Speaker 1: let's let's play this game. All right, Let's spend twenty grand. 123 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: I can spend your money easily, Gordon, It's it's I'm 124 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm real good at this. But um, let's spend twenty grand. 125 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: What does twenty grand? Baya does? Does twenty grand get 126 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: you more? Um? And how much more? And what kind 127 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: of more? If you know what I'm saying? Um, you know? 128 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: And are you better off with that? Are you better off? 129 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: You know? Are you better off under a hundred thousand 130 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: miles less than ten years old? Can you get to 131 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: that number? Because then at least if you have to 132 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: put money into it, all right, if you have to 133 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: put money into it, you could probably justify it. It's 134 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: probably easier to get parts. You know. Listen, just because 135 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: they're selling it for six grand doesn't make it worth 136 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: six grand. In my mind, I don't care. If that 137 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: truck is pristine, perfect and absolutely gorgeous. There'sn't a drop 138 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: of rust on it anywhere. All right, they'd have to 139 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 1: show me all the maintenance records. They'd have to show 140 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: me you know that the front end has been cared for, 141 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: that the front end is solid. You know, there's an 142 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: awful lot of things that go wrong on a plow truck. 143 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: I I only plowed my driveway at the house and 144 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: the parking lot at the shop. And like I've always said, 145 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: the occasional little little lady who's out there trying to 146 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: shovel and and and deal with it, I'll drop the 147 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: plow for her. But I don't. I don't plow commercially. 148 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: In twelve years of doing what I'll call that as 149 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: light duty plowing, my last Silverado, my O eight Silverado. 150 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: The driver's side exhaust manifold, I believe there's twelve bolts 151 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: holding them out. Ten bolts holding the manifold to the head. 152 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: Two of the bull's heads had rotted away to the 153 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: point that they popped off like ding. Alright, they were gone. 154 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: The power steering pump was so rusty it was almost 155 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: an indiscernible mass where the pump ended in the bracket 156 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: that held it on began all right, and it had 157 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: two little rusts. It's forming over the back wheel well 158 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: on top of the back tires that I said, you know, 159 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: in six months, this thing is gonna look like holy heck. 160 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: And I just I can't, you know, I said, out 161 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: the door, and it's gone. And I got fair money 162 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: for it, all right. The truck had thirty five thousand 163 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: miles on it, all right? That truck had thirty five 164 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it, now, you know, And I was happy. 165 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: I listen, you know what, everybody's got to make money. 166 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: And I understand that the dealer gave me fourteen I 167 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: think they probably sold it for close to twenty. But 168 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: they had to guarantee at warranty and they had a 169 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, they had a it was still a twelve 170 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: going on thirteen year old truck. All right. Now, that's 171 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: that's not seeing the use. I'm sure that didn't see 172 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: the use. I'm sure from what you're describing. But you 173 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: know when I also don't know how it was used. 174 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: Was it was privately or commercially? Right? And they're not 175 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: And are they really going to tell you? I don't know. 176 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: I I would think, okay, in order for you to 177 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: be interested in this, I think they've got to show 178 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: you some pictures of the underneath. I think you've got 179 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: to look at break lines. I think you've got to 180 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: look at fuel lines. You know, that's a great truck 181 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: for the guy that can't afford seventy grand or bullets. 182 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: Sea Let me let me back that up. What is 183 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: it now? I think an F two fifty plow equipped 184 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: vehicle brand new from Ford is somewhere in the neighborhood 185 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: of sixty. So that's a great truck to somebody spend 186 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: six grand on. They'll dump a motor in it, they'll 187 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: dump a trans in it. They'll go through the brake lines, 188 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: the fuel lines, the front end, the steering axles, okay, 189 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: and they'll put you know, they'll put thirty thousand dollars 190 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: worth the hard parts in that truck. And and you know, 191 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: but for you, I don't see it. I don't see it. Brother, Um, 192 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I think I think it's 193 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: either spend a little more money. What do you drive 194 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: every day? I have a decent road that I drive, 195 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: but I've been using to plow the yard V two 196 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: g MC for the last twenty years. And what's wrong 197 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: with that? Well, I think it's the time and change. 198 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: He doesn't he won't call older timing. And she's constantly flooding. 199 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if you hold a wide open, she'll go 200 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: like a great monkey. But she doesn't. Uh. And what 201 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: kind of she laughing at let off a little bit? 202 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: What what kind of shape is the body in? And net? 203 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: Everything's rusted, everything's got a hole in it. Everything's good. 204 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: So that's the fifteen layers or rust olean paint on it. 205 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: So so that's done. So you know, instead of this, listen, 206 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: instead of the sixth grand f to fifty or the 207 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: twenty grand whatever, we're gonna go try and find why 208 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: don't we look on let's make a game out of it. 209 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: Why don't we look on craigslist Southern California, all right, 210 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: and let's go buy a southern California pickup truck and 211 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: go buy like a seventy five Chevy something that's you know, 212 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: it's never seen snow, and you'll you'll pay ten, twelve, 213 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: fifteen grand for it. But then at least you've got 214 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of a classic and be fund to drive, 215 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: and you can put it in the fourth of July 216 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: parades up there, right, you know, and then at least 217 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: it's it's it's you know, I mean, there's there's there's 218 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: no electronics on the vehicle. It'll be points and condenser. 219 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: I think we remember how the world not in seventy 220 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: five and have to be seventy four or older, seventy 221 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: three year older. Um. But then at least when they 222 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: dropped the neutron bomb and they take out all the 223 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: electronics and cars. Gordon will be driving around in his 224 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: car up in Maine and everybody can't figure it out. 225 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: So and that's why I like this old truck. Twenty years. 226 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: I've been able to work on it. But these ones 227 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking at now, I can't work on those well. 228 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: And and you know, to the point you can't get 229 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: parts warm either. It's easier to get parts for the 230 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: old truck than it is for the new truck. And 231 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: and and that's and that's got to be considered. So 232 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and uh that that truck and mass 233 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: is worth three grand on its best day. And you know, 234 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: at three grand, now you've earned the right to restore it. 235 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: And then you'll work. Then you'll work your way out 236 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: from there. And it's you know, one thing I can 237 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: tell you about snow storms. And this is the other 238 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: reason I got rid of the O eight, And then 239 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: I got to run um. The other reason I got 240 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: rid of the O eight was it was twelve going 241 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: on thirteen years old, and I knew parts were getting 242 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: a little not crazy heart to find, but I kept 243 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, what can I find in a 244 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: way of parts, and I just kept thinking about it's 245 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: it's it's, it's that age. It's starting to rust. Where's 246 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: the reliability factor. I don't want to be out in 247 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: a snowscamera blizzard stuck, you know, worry about my safety 248 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: and then worry about how am I going to plow 249 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: When I have to plow right, right and right, something explode, 250 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: so um, you know, and it happens. It happens, brother, 251 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: So I maybe I'm pessimistic at heart, but I just 252 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: try to be prepared as best they can. All right, 253 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: you're very welcome, Gordon. Let us know what you buy. 254 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: Have some fun with this. Go buy a seventy two 255 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: seventy three something Chevy Classic that lights your fire and 256 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: put a plow on it. You'll have some fun. So fantastic. Thanks, 257 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: you're very welcome, Gordon. You take good care. Yeah. And 258 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: the best part is then when he's done with it, 259 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: he'll have this truck that he can you know, it's 260 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: a classic. It will always be worth something, be worth 261 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: something anyway, Ronan ating the car doctor. We are back 262 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: right after this thing. That's right. If you call and 263 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: we're not live, you can leave a message and we'll 264 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: call you back to get you on the air with 265 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Ron eight five five zero nine nine zero zero. Speaking 266 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: of Ron, here he is, Hey, let's get over to 267 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: Salon stat n Islan, New York sl Welcome to the 268 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir, how can I help? Hey? Thanks to 269 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: taking my cloth, I have the two nd Cox and 270 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago who was displaying the fuel 271 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: check fuel caps. So um, just out of the blue, 272 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, while I was drawing. So um. Uh. The 273 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: next day I bought like a suel cap from the 274 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: Honda dealer and so I put it on, and you know, 275 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: the message did not go away. So um. I started 276 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: doing some research on the internet and it told me too, 277 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: the fact doesn't work. If the shoe cup doesn't work, 278 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: then try to uh buy the perch casterbow. So I 279 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: went back to the handed dealer and I bought this piece. 280 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: I think of me like, um, seventies dollars or something, 281 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: but uh, I'm stilled it and it still didn't selp 282 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: the problem. And not only that, it seems like, you know, 283 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: the food tap message us to be displayed on the 284 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: xplot like writing. Now I'm getting like a hard code. Um, 285 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: it's like a mass function indicat a lot. That's that's 286 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: that's on steady now, so, uh did you happen did 287 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: you happen to poll codes on this yet? So? Um, 288 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: well what happened was, um, I brewed it to the 289 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: Honda dealer and because on Saturdays they don't, um, you know, 290 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: they don't do a full diagnostics, he told me that 291 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: I'll clear the pod right now and it should you know, 292 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: let me know if it comes back on. So um, 293 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, he cleared the code that the indicator light 294 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: went off. But then after three days I started driving 295 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: and came back on. So you know, I don't I 296 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: haven't bring it back to the hundred year I just 297 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: uh maybe you know. So, so all right, you're ready, 298 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: take a take a breath. All right, all right, just relax. 299 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: It's okay. So I can tell you are nervous. Easy sound, 300 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: so let me just start the conversation here. You know, 301 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: how many mistakes were made in this diagnosis already, probably 302 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: is twice as many of the steps that you took. 303 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: All right, Um. Fuel error messages on dashboards of cars 304 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: are not written for diagnostic approach. They're written by marketing departments. 305 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: And I don't care whose car we're talking about, all right. 306 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: They're written because they're concerned. The car company's concern is 307 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: that the guy in the gas station didn't tighten the cap, 308 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: and they don't want you to have to bring your 309 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: car back to the service department thinking, oh my god, 310 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: my car is broken because the guy in the gas 311 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: station didn't do his job. And I'm I'm telling you 312 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: it sounds far fetched, but I've talked to marketing people 313 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: and this is this is their fear. This is they 314 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: They believe this like like it's the Holy Grail. They 315 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: absolutely don't want to loose gas cap to generate a 316 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: a trouble code unnecessarily causing that car to have to 317 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: come in for service, because it puts the car in 318 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: a bad image. So first things first, Um, that old 319 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: guess cap may be good, maybe it's not, but just 320 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: be aware. So the second thing that was wrong here 321 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: is the guy in the Honda dealer cleared the code 322 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: that he happened to tell you what the code was. 323 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: All right, So have you ever been sick? Sow you 324 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: ever go to the doctor and you know, you you're 325 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: complaining about something and they tell you, you know, yeah, 326 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: we can fix this, don't they always tell you what's 327 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: wrong with you? Do they do? They? Do you pay 328 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: them for that diagnosis? Did you pay? Did you pay? 329 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: The Honda got to clear the code? Um, well he too, 330 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: because it was a little change. He did they do it, 331 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: you know? So they so they threw it in as 332 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: part of the oil change. So they essentially did it 333 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: for free. Right, so you got what you paid for. 334 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: You got nothing. They did nothing, all right, because now 335 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: the problem is now you gotta go back to find 336 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: out what the fault code is. The long story I'm 337 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: trying to go around the barn to tell you, is 338 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: Honda's EVAP system, all right? The revaptive emission system is 339 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: actually very well thought out. They designed the system so 340 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: that depending upon which fault code you get, you'll know 341 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: is at the front half of the system or the 342 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: back half of the system? Which valve is it? Is it? Purge? 343 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: Is it is it canister vent? Is it a problem 344 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: with the canister? So until you know what code, we're 345 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: just we're throwing darts at a wall, all right. So 346 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: I've got to tell you it's got to go back 347 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: to the Honda dealer or somebody, all right, They've got 348 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: to diagnose it. But you know, don't let them erase code. 349 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: When you raise codes like that, they're wiping out half 350 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: the information. It's it's unnecessary. They're they're really making the 351 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: job harder because had they said to you, hey, sal 352 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: it's a P zero four fifty six or um you know, 353 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: or or or something else, it would be easier to 354 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: guide you in a sense. Um, get it back to 355 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: the Honda dealer. Stop buying parts please, um, and let's 356 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: see what they come back to us with. I'm thinking 357 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna tell us we've got either a canister problem 358 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: or the canister close valve has an issue. They do 359 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: have problems and they go bad, but you know, it's 360 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: very easy to diagnose. They've just got to begin one. 361 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: Call me back if you need more. I'm on anating. 362 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: The car doctor will return right after this. Every welcome back. 363 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: Whyn't eating the car doctor? Letsten over and talk to 364 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: Brett in Detroit, OH five Silverado Brett. Welcome to the 365 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Hey? Are you doing? 366 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: What's going on? Hey? I have UH five Silverado uh 367 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: Rich coats US one seven seven five. Okay, I have 368 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: clean the master pull sensor. A couple of different times 369 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: I have reset the codes uh and driving around. You know, 370 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: if it does have a pam uh basic pattern, you 371 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: know okay, that the timing is turned up into two. 372 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: I haven't had this issue since I've had the truck too, 373 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: so I know that there's something going on. I just 374 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: haven't been Did I hear you correctly, Brett? Did you 375 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: say there's a tune in the truck? That's correct? Okay, 376 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Does your tuner kit 377 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: give you the ability to look at scan data? Okay? 378 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: Do you have a scan tool? I do not have 379 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: a skame tool. I have just a hyper Tech. Before 380 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: I got the custom tune, I had an help all right, 381 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: Are you looking for a reason to buy a scan tool? 382 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: Because if you are, this is a UM you might 383 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: as well have one. Everybody needs you know, UM. And 384 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what you're gonna go look for. Okay, 385 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean pick a scan tool, something with good basic data. 386 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: You know? To me, picking a scan tool your first 387 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: scan tool is it's it's sort of like when I 388 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: first started using quick and thirty years ago, right, I 389 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: walked up the quick and I remember it on the 390 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: software on the computer and I never I never read 391 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: the book. Within five minutes, I knew how to do 392 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: everything in the program. It just made sense to me. 393 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: You know this, did this, this, did that? Write the check, 394 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: print the check. We're done. Uh. You know, you look 395 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: at the basic scan tool you're looking for in your case, 396 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: Harry Homeowner, you're looking to see, you know, can it 397 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: display data groups? Will display the same the pits that 398 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: you want. In this case, O b D two is 399 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: really where you want to be. You don't want to 400 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: get fancy with your make model yet a little your 401 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: make model will only confuse you when you're starting out 402 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: with scan tool technology for a lot of reasons that 403 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: I won't go into here, but it's just you're better off. 404 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: It's just a decent, legible O b D two scan tool. 405 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: If you want to be able to print from it, 406 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: that's a preference. You know, you don't necessarily need it. 407 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: I like it in the shop. If you ever want 408 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: to record data and you're using a scan tool, you've 409 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: got to You've you've got a camera in yourself phone 410 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: which is on your hip. Just take a picture of 411 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: the screen and you got it on file and you're 412 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: good to go. You can always make a library that way. 413 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: So you know you want to look at fuel trim, 414 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: all right, Um, Fuel trim is a measurement of is 415 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: the vehicle running with or out of its base compliance? 416 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: What do you do for a living bread? Okay? Um, 417 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think ahead of how I can explain this. Um. 418 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: So you're you're driving diesel, right all right? So you 419 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: know you ever have those cold winter mornings when the 420 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: diesel is really uh, it's not warm, and it's it's 421 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: got no heat in the motor and it's it's just 422 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: smoking black and it's running. It's running rich. We'll call 423 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: it like that, right, So you know we're looking to 424 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: see is the engine here running rich? Fuel trim will 425 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: tell us that fuel trim is a basic measurement zero, 426 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: there's there's there's two types of fuel trims. There's short 427 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: term fuel trim, there's long term fuel trim. Long term 428 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: is what do you have for lunch yesterday? Remember? Yes? Okay? 429 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: So so your long term fuel trim is a submarine 430 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: sandwich you had yesterday? All right, because it's history, it's 431 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: it's it's it's what happened that submarine sandwich you had yesterday? 432 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: Drove you to today. What do you have for lunch today? Bananas? Okay? 433 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: Because you had so much yesterday your stomach said, I 434 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: can't take anymore. Help me, just I want a couple 435 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: of bananas today. So short term will now drive long term, 436 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: and it will continue to be that. Because you ate 437 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: a little bit today, you're gonna eat more tomorrow and 438 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: so on. So we always look at two numbers, long term, 439 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: short term fuel trim. All right. Long term fuel trim 440 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: is typically zero plus or minus, yes, six, seven, depends 441 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: on the car. Short term is a little bit more, 442 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: is a little tighter now. Short term will change as 443 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: we drive. It's immediate. It's reactionary. It's it's it's like 444 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's like share in that movie 445 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: was it Moonstruck when she yells at the kids, snap 446 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: out of it and smacksim the back of the head. 447 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: It's immediate, it's waxed, snap out of it. Right. Short 448 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: term fuel trim is always changing. Here's why the code set. 449 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: All right. Remember in high school, it took that geometry 450 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: class and they showed you geometric lines and it was 451 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: zero and then plus the plus, and you added numbers 452 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: and minus and it took away numbers, and you said, 453 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: where am I gonna use that? Because you're gonna fix 454 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: a car twenty years later? All right? So zero is 455 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: based fuel trim. That's a balanced their fuel mixture of 456 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: the vehicles and emissions compliance. The computer is always looking 457 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: at a bunch of factors, oh too, censor activity. It's 458 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: looking at current fuel trim, level, pool and temperature, engine load, 459 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of things, and it's saying, hey, is 460 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: this guy in compliance or not he is? Guess what 461 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: we can We can keep that short term fuel trim. 462 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna stay nice plus or minus five percent right 463 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: around zero, all right. Then all of a sudden, a 464 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: vacuum line show falls off. The computer says, hey, we're 465 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: running lean. I gotta add more fuel because all of 466 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm finding the two sensors are hanging down 467 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: too low there running lean. I'm gonna add more fuel 468 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: and bring up my my O two center numbers. It's 469 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: looking for a response to that, and maybe it gets it. Okay, 470 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: maybe it's a small vacuum line. Maybe it isn't. And 471 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: now short term starts to climb. So instead of zero, 472 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: now short term stays at one now short term stays 473 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: at two, and maybe short term works all it's way 474 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: all the way up to when it hits twenty five 475 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: on most cars. Now long term jumps one. So now 476 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: long term is one and short term drops back to zero. 477 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: And that process repeats itself until the computer finds the 478 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: point where it's happy. It can add fuel, it can 479 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: take fuel away. It opens up injector on time, it 480 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: closes down injector on time. So this so the so 481 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: the volume of fuel increases or shrinks, all right. In 482 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: your case, you're running rich. The computer is seeing too 483 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: much fuel pass through, all right. And if you're gonna 484 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: look at this, if you look at this on a 485 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: scan tool, you're gonna see numbers that are going to 486 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: exceed negative. It's gonna be a negative number. It's trying 487 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: to take fuel away. It's running rich, all right. So 488 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: we've got to think about what what sources make an 489 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: engine run rich? All right? Because it's it's it's actually 490 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: easier to fix a rich condition than it is a 491 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: lean condition, because there's not a lot of things that 492 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: make an engine run rich. If if the cool attempt 493 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: censor was lying to the computer, do you know, do 494 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: you understand what a cool intempt censor is doing it 495 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: in a modern day engine, so right, so you know, 496 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: when it gets up to a nine degrees on the 497 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: average engine, the computer says, hey, it's hot enough, I'm 498 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: gonna cut back on fuel trim. I'm gonna take off 499 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: the electric choke. If we can say it like that, 500 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: all right, that will generate some fan mail. All right, 501 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: everybody go, what an electric choke? Right? You know you 502 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: got to annoy everybody. You know, If I don't annoy 503 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: somebody once a week at least, I know I'm not 504 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: doing my job. So you know, it's it's if if 505 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: the computer is if the scan tool is telling us 506 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: that the cool intempt censor is, but it's really stuck 507 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: at you know, it's less and the computer is running incorrectly, 508 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: or vice versa. If the cool intempt censor is staying lone, 509 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: it's really running hot, that will have an effect on 510 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: a fuel trimp. So that's got to be looked at. 511 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: O two censor activity. Now O two is It's rare 512 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: when an O two fails and causes a rich condition 513 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: because a rich failing O two would have to be 514 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: a high voltage. It would have to produce a high 515 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: voltage condition. All right, So where I would look is 516 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: I would find the canister purge valve or the canister. 517 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: Is the canister loaded with fuel? Do we have do 518 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: we have a potential problem where the canister purge valve 519 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: is stuck open and it's drawing fuel out of the 520 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: tank or the canister at the wrong time. All right, 521 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: But by a scan tool it's a good educational moment 522 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: and at least you'll know what you're dealing with. You know, 523 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: data is and it's so darn important on cars today. 524 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: If you don't have a scan tooling, you're throwing parts 525 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: at it. You're you're you're gonna get nowhere. It's it's 526 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: it's only gonna be frustrating. And you know, thank God 527 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: for eBay. I jump out to eBay. I'd look and 528 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: see if there's a shop out there in your area 529 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: so you can actually go over and see the tool. 530 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: Are they selling an older version snap on something or 531 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: an OTC something, and you know you can you can 532 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: get something that's maybe outdated to them, but for you, 533 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: it'll it'll it'll work real slick um. But you know, 534 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: you're chasing fulture and let's start the war from there. 535 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: All right, kiddo, all right, thank you very much. You're 536 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: very welcome. Good luck to you. 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And you know what, It 555 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: eliminates the problem and helps move my day along. It 556 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: will too for you. Ford Parts dot com find it 557 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: by it. Hey, get back to work, and let's get 558 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: back to work ourselves, and let's go over to the 559 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: Big Island, I think as it's called, and visit Maui 560 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: and talk to Walter. Walter, where you have been? Brother? Hey, 561 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: it's called the Garden Valley Island. Is that what it is? 562 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: The Valley Island out in the Valley Valley? So low. Well, 563 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: you know, I saw your email and I said, you know, 564 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: we haven't talked to Walter in a while, and I 565 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: guess it's time to let him out of the cage 566 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: and talk to him once more. So go ahead lay 567 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: it on me every question you've got, because you've had 568 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: a few, and I've just been so busy. I haven't 569 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: been ignoring you. I'm just up to my eyeballs. What's 570 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: going on? I understand? Okay, this is for my vet. 571 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: This is my own vehicle. It's five point seven LID standard. Uh. 572 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: I don't have a scanner that will read O B 573 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: D one code. But by grounding the up with codes, 574 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: and I came and I came up with a it 575 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: says I got a bank to right front heater are 576 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: heated O two circuit lean system and I have no 577 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: way to check the fuel trim, and I sure it was, 578 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: assuming that it was. If anything, it say, vacuum lake, 579 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: do you have a Do you have a voltmeter? Walter? Yes? 580 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: I do? Okay? Is it? Do you have an analog 581 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: meter or a digital meter or both? Okay? So let's 582 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: go find the upstream oxygen sensor for that bank, all right, 583 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: and tap into it. Now when I tell you to 584 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: tap into it, do you have any how do you 585 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: how do you backprobe or pierce a wire so you 586 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: can read voltage on that one? I have some back 587 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: probe pens that I bought. I knew you would, all right, 588 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: so we I'd like you to backprobe the harness itself, 589 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily the censor, because the sensor wire has a 590 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: real hard plastic shell over. It's gonna be kind of 591 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: hard to pierce through. But let's let's back probe that wire. 592 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, a NO. Two center and that should be 593 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: at Is that a single wire, Walter? Or is it 594 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: a two or three wire? I think I think okay, 595 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: because I think they ran a redundant round. There was 596 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: something about that. So one of those is going to 597 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: be the signal, and one of those is gonna be 598 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: So we got to sort out which is the signal line? 599 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: All right, So maybe we'll have to dig into a 600 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: wiring diagram. You'll send me the vent and i'll i'll here. 601 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: I am again working for Walter. Look at this. I 602 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: love this guy. Um, but we'll have to find the 603 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: signal line. The idea becomes that we're gonna find the 604 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: signal line and tap the volt meter in. Now you 605 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: know that the analog meter might be too slow, but 606 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: it might be a more graphic presentation to see that 607 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: needle swing high and low. All right, Um, it worked 608 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: on carburettors. I'm trying to remember nine was too imports 609 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: stuff might be too It's probably still slow compared to today's. 610 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: It's worth a try. At worse it's gonna happen is 611 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: it won't read it alo with with the digital meter 612 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: on it. The idea is that when an O two 613 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: censor is reporting lean, it's gonna produce a low voltage. 614 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: When NO two censors reporting rich, it's gonna produce a 615 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: high voltage. So you actually have the ability to refuel 616 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: trim for that for that engine without a SCANTL you're 617 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: gonna read it directly at the censor, and you know 618 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna assume that the computer is interpreting it correctly, 619 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: which is a dangerous thing. But we have to do 620 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: it because we don't have the scan tool. And you know, 621 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: let's see where we got. If if it's saying Bank 622 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: two is lean, then that bank to upstream oh two 623 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: center is going to be showing a low voltage or 624 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: it's never gonna break the uh five mill volt scale 625 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: half of all scale, al right, it will always be low. 626 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: So if it is, then you have your bottle of propane. 627 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: Let me catch up real quick here, I've already propaned it. Yeah, 628 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: but than the corporat and water find no no, no, no, no, 629 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: no no no. If you've got it hooked up to 630 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: a to a vault meter. Okay, if you've got it 631 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: hooked up to a vault meter and you shoot some 632 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: propane down the throat of the engine, can you drive 633 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: that O two full rich? Maybe you got a bad 634 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: oh too, maybe you got a week go two. You 635 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: gotta know too, that's just they aren't brand new, but 636 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: they're not, you know, a year old. So tell you what, Walter, 637 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: hang on, sit right where you are. Let me pull 638 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: over and take this pause. When we come back, we're 639 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: only gonna have about three minutes, but we'll go real 640 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: quick and get through the rest of this. I'm running 641 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: any of the Car Doctor with Walter and we'll be 642 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: both back right after this. Welcome back. Want any of 643 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, Walter, you're still there. So the deal is, 644 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: if we can hook up a voltmeter to the signal 645 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: line coming out of the O two and monitor it 646 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: and then play with it all right, if we if 647 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: we create a vacuum leak, does the O two go low? 648 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: If we enrich it with propane, does the ot oh 649 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: to go high? You know, if we if we can, 650 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: if we can't make that O to drive it to 651 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, drive it through its range, drive it from 652 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: zero to one, vaulting back again, then we've got a 653 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: problem with that OH two. It's that simple. So you know, 654 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily need a scan tool. Scant will just 655 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: make it easy. But you know what, we fixed a 656 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: lot of cars way back when and we didn't have 657 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: scan tools to do it with. So um, you know, 658 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: try that second question. What tool ad method is the 659 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 1: most accurate way of setting spark plug gaps? What kind 660 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: of spark plug. Um, let's say okay, well, well, and 661 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: when I say that, is is it a platinum tipped plug? 662 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: Is it an IRADU? Isn' an iridium tipped plug? Is 663 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: it a plain platinum? If it's a platinum tip plug, 664 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: I use my eye because and and the reason I 665 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: say it like that is is because using an old 666 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: school spark plug gapper, you can you can damage the tip. 667 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: So they actually don't call to my knowledge, they don't 668 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: know manufacturer recommends using a gapper to gap a spark 669 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: plug like platinum iridium because you'll damage the tip. It's 670 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: it's really an eyeball thing. Uh, you know, take a 671 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: look at it. If you have to adjust it, you 672 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: have to be ever so careful. Some of the platinum 673 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: plugs or some of the iridium plugs, and some of 674 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: the other metallic plug the metal plugs that you know, 675 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: they have these special materials on them. Um, they're adhere 676 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: to the tip of the electrode and you can damage it. 677 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: So it's feeler gauge or I'm sorry, spark plug gapper 678 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: night send easy, don't bend anything. And um, if it 679 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: looks okay, leave it alone, don't touch it. And you'll 680 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: be just fine. Walter, I appreciate it. I'm running any 681 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: of the car Doctor. Your mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.