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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad, starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone, welcome the Mother Knows Death. We have a great

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Speaker 1: episode for you today. We're going to talk about Abby

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Speaker 1: Lee Miller from Dance Moms, who is suing a popular

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Speaker 1: hospital for negligence. A young beauty influencer with a very

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Speaker 1: unusual gimmick who is now dead maybe because of that gimmick.

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Speaker 1: A nurse that accidentally killed a baby in a freak accident.

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Speaker 1: Just such a terrible story. A man who had his

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Speaker 1: throat cut by the most unsuspecting object. Of course, we're

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Speaker 1: going to get into the case that everybody is talking about,

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Speaker 1: the dad who it appears that he had PTSD and

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Speaker 1: may have killed his three daughters and he's currently on

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Speaker 1: the run, a nasty viral video involving oat milk, and

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Speaker 1: an update on a physician assisted suicide story that we've

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Speaker 1: been talking about here on Mother Knows Death. So all

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Speaker 1: that and more on today's episode. Let's get started with

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Speaker 1: Abby Lee Miller.

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Speaker 2: All right, So, back in twenty twenty, Abby Lee Miller

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Speaker 2: had surgery on her spine and after the procedure, she

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Speaker 2: started up having abdominal pain and discomfort. So she told

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Speaker 2: the doctors, who of course initially blew her off. She

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Speaker 2: eventually forced them to give her a CT scan and

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Speaker 2: they found that they left a catheter in her from

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Speaker 2: the procedure.

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Speaker 1: So Abby Lee had Burkett lymphoma, which is a rare

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Speaker 1: but really aggressive type of lymphoma, and that kind of

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Speaker 1: particular cancer can cause involvement with the central nervous system,

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Speaker 1: so it is likely. I was just trying to think

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Speaker 1: of what surgery that she would have had, and they

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Speaker 1: do something called an innerthecal chemotherapy, which is they would

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Speaker 1: put a catheter into the spinal column and they would

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Speaker 1: put the chemotherapy drugs directly into the spinal fluid, which

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Speaker 1: is the fluid that surrounds the spinal cord and brain.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking that that's possibly what she had done,

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Speaker 1: but that was back in twenty twenty, so if they

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Speaker 1: didn't remove that foreign object, she obviously would be having pain.

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Speaker 1: Your body reacts to stuff. If this is a normal

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Speaker 1: reaction your body has when there's a foreign object there

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Speaker 1: that it sees that it's there, and it starts freaking

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Speaker 1: against it, and it could cause all these sorts of problems.

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Speaker 1: Some people can get used to it and they could

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Speaker 1: even for the rest of her life, and it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: make a difference. But other people really have significant complications

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Speaker 1: with it. And they showed the photograph of what I

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Speaker 1: guess her back looks like, and it looks like a

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Speaker 1: hole that looks it may be infected. And I honestly

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Speaker 1: I think that she's right for this lawsuit. It seems

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Speaker 1: like it was negligence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, we're always criticizing people for frivolous lawsuits,

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Speaker 2: but this is def warranted. She's doing theter Cy and

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Speaker 2: I and both doctors that worked on her, claiming medical negligence,

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Speaker 2: professional negligence, and medical battery. She's asking for one point

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Speaker 2: four million dollars, so I'm always curious how they come

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Speaker 2: up with that number. But I mean, if she's had

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Speaker 2: a lot of subsequent medical bills because of this, then

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Speaker 2: it's warranted.

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Speaker 1: Well, it also could just be like because she was

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Speaker 1: be a common thing with burkitts lun foma. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know if she's considered where she is in her

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Speaker 1: treatment with the particular cancer, but if there's been situations where,

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Speaker 1: for example, her back and her abdomen hurts so bad

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Speaker 1: that she couldn't go to work one day, that's something

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Speaker 1: I mean she she does the dance Mom's thing and everything,

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Speaker 1: that's probably like lost wages could be in that, and

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Speaker 1: just pain and suffering is also worth a certain amount

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's move on to this next case.

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Speaker 2: Beauty influencer Guava Shoeshoe aka Guaba Beauty has died at

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Speaker 2: age twenty four. So what's really interesting about this case

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Speaker 2: is she was kind of known for eating cosmetics after

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Speaker 2: saying that the hospital ruled out that that was related

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Speaker 1: Well, but then what was her cause of dead. I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious, like I don't know if you could very

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Speaker 1: in China, no less, that is known for having products

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Speaker 1: Like you know forever chemicals that you're kind of like

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Speaker 1: this woman was eating them and they.

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Speaker 2: Said it was sudden ailments, so like poisoning perhaps, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Like so a lot of the like something like the

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Speaker 1: not cause an acute death, meaning that you would take

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Speaker 1: That's something that you're more considering down the road, Like

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Speaker 1: it is possible that she did, she would have had

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Speaker 1: an acute illness, which meant right away and that but

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Speaker 1: we know that there's heavy metals that have been tested

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Speaker 1: and God knows what other chemicals are in here. I

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly why she would eat blush and lip gloss.

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Speaker 1: But you say it's it's safe to put like on

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Speaker 1: your lips, for example, but it's it may not be

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Speaker 1: that could be a possibility. She also could have died

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Speaker 1: from something else. It's it's not out of the realm.

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Speaker 1: It's just kind of interesting or ironic that she would

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Speaker 1: post these videos and all the comments underneath would be like, yo,

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Speaker 2: Well, it's really reminding me of this episode of My

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Speaker 2: Strange Addiction where this woman was obsessed with eating nail

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean some there're some now polishes that have

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Speaker 1: be ingesting that. And like I said, it's it's safe

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Speaker 2: No, definitely not. I don't know if like so, I

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Speaker 2: it must taste good. But it was also probably five

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Speaker 1: I did the same exact thing. I remember, momm used

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this probably tastes you think that it

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Speaker 1: like it's like a red gel that smells so good,

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing with shampoo and stuff. Like it's

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Speaker 1: but you certainly shouldn't sit there and drink shampoo.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's why My Strange Addiction is such a

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Speaker 1: good show, because it just shows lots of people eating

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Speaker 1: weird shit and it's it's great. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So this next story is really sad.

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Speaker 2: Back in March's baby was born with a heart condition

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Speaker 1: I can't, I really literally cannot believe that this is

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Speaker 1: just don't know how it was set up that you

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Speaker 1: would be able to drag a body from a crib

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Speaker 2: Oh, I thought she was on like a changing table

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure because they said the medical examiner said

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Speaker 1: Interesting, So just like if you think about that, there

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Speaker 1: is even with those little cradle things that they bring

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Speaker 1: just think if you had I mean, this is just

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Speaker 1: would be I just think it's weird that the nurse

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Speaker 1: It just happened so quickly that actually, I know, it's

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Speaker 2: No, totally okay. So a man and a woman are

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Speaker 1: So you could do something called a kite fight, which

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Speaker 2: People for going near them and not thinking twice because

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, So like in America especially, it's it's

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, who's regulating that If you see somebody

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, but so do you think in

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Speaker 1: Like I really, I really do, And I think that

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Speaker 2: I wonder if at the time of the incident they

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Speaker 1: They probably didn't because I'm not sure how it happened,

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Speaker 1: So this case has been seriously like haunting my dreams

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Speaker 2: did not do that at first because they didn't think

436
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: there was any credible threat at that point.

437
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: It's not bizarre, it's bizarre, but at the same time,

438
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: like they were saying that them was met, that the

439
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: kids were under seventeen years old, but that's the whole point. No, No,

440
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: there's different things. Other ones were that there must be

441
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: a reason to believe the person that the children were abducted,

442
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: and there must be a reason that there was serious

443
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: imminent bodily injury or death that they thought was going

444
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: to happen. And when you hear what the mom is

445
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: saying afterwards, after she's been interviewed, you're going to see

446
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: why the police did not think that all three of

447
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: those criteria were checked. Yes, but it is like, in hindsight,

448
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: it's weird, but there was there was no one telling

449
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: them like, hey, this guy's gonna hurt this kid. Because

450
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: this guy has been he has seemingly been a really

451
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: good dad. He's been to their events, he has a

452
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: good relationship with the mom. They consider themselves to be friends.

453
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: He never beat them, never hurt them. So when they

454
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: ask questions like that, and they don't, you know what

455
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Like this guy doesn't have a history of

456
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: like beating the shit out of the mom and being

457
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: violent and being all this, that's why they didn't think

458
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: that they wanted to go lightly with it.

459
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: I understand that. But if you're getting to the point

460
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: where it's the middle of the night and you've heard

461
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: nothing and that's unusual behavior, then that's like, in my opinion,

462
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 2: the entire point of the amber alert because it's an

463
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: immediate alert when the kids are And also.

464
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: Like I guess and this would be something for law

465
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: enforcement officers maybe like what's the negative of like any

466
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: time a parent calls and says, my kid's missing, Why

467
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: can't why is there have to be a criteria? Why

468
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: can't you just be like, let's put out an amber

469
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: alert and then if the kids found safe, we'll put

470
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: out another alert and saying the kid's fine.

471
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 2: Well, there's no negative to it. In my opinion, that's

472
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent just do it,

473
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: and like in this case, they were wrong because the

474
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: following Monday, they found the dad's truck abandoned at a

475
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: camps late and they found all three kids dead, plastic

476
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 2: bags around their heads, dip ties around their hands, pierced,

477
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: they were suffocated. The dad is totally missing, Like I guess,

478
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 2: the leading theory right now is that he might have

479
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: killed himself and they just haven't found his body.

480
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: Yet, But now they think he might be on the

481
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: run too because of Google searches that he had. Yeah,

482
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: so they just had Google searches. He had Google searches

483
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: that were looking for like questioning about Canada, like how

484
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: to get to Canada and jobs in Canada, which makes

485
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: you think that And he was right near Canada, so

486
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: that makes you think that maybe he would be trying

487
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: to go there. And all of his family members, including

488
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: his ex wife, say that he had extensive military training

489
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: and would be able to survive in a situation where

490
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: he had no food or shelter for a long period

491
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: of time.

492
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 2: They believe.

493
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: What's so, they they've done an interview with I'm not

494
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: sure if it's his wife because it seems like it's

495
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: her lawyer, representative at this time saying that he had

496
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: so he's former military And I guess this is why

497
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: this case is upsetting me so bad, because when you

498
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: look at the pictures, the guy looks like he's kind

499
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: of cute, and he looks like he's kind of happy,

500
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: and the girls look like him exactly, like the one

501
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: kid is his spitting image, and you just look and think, like,

502
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: how serious you need to take this kind of stuff.

503
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: They were married, they were in love, and he was

504
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: in the military. He was showing signs of PTSD throughout

505
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: their marriage, and then he started waking up in the

506
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: middle of the night screaming, like sleeping one to two

507
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: hours night sweats. And this was the comment that came

508
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: from the representative for the mother, who said, the courts

509
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: did not fail these girls. It wasn't the judge, and

510
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't Whitney, who's the ex wife, It was our system.

511
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: The wife feels like the system really let Travis down.

512
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: It's if someone would have provided Travis with the help

513
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: that he needed, those girls would have been alive. Before

514
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: the girls disappeared last week. There were no red flags.

515
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: He had some mental health issues, some instability in his

516
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: life that really led to the restrictions as far as

517
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: the overnight visitation or him taking them out of the area.

518
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: But other than that, he loved those girls very much.

519
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: They were able to communicate on a regular basis, like

520
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: I said, So she really thought that after he was

521
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: out of the active reserves in twenty twenty three is

522
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: when things really started getting bad for him. And she

523
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: even said that he was the one that ended their marriage,

524
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: saying that he didn't think that he was worth it.

525
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: And of course those types of conversations when people start

526
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: talking like that, are a little alarming, and she thought

527
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: it was alarming to the point that she got the

528
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: visitation change for the kids.

529
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 2: Well, there was something, there's a significant event that happened

530
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: that changed that custody, which is he had the kids

531
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: overnight and they stayed in a homeless shelter. You let

532
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: them walk unattended to a convenience store. So that's what

533
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: changed the Yeah, so she.

534
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: Was just kind of like he's not like he's not

535
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: all there right, but at during all this time, and

536
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: that happened back in September, Like they've been doing this,

537
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: they've been having great communication, she's been getting them back

538
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: and like this is the problem too, when you're divorced

539
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: and there's visitation. In all these situations, the parents are

540
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: tied as far because if you don't let even if

541
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from this woman, and even if you

542
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: feel like you didn't want the kids to go see

543
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: the dad, you're you're tied right that you can go

544
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: to jail if you don't let your kids do the

545
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: visitation with the guy. And I don't think that she

546
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: felt it was that bad she thought she she's even

547
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: even knowing that he probably killed her three children, she's

548
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: saying positive things about him. She feels she feels terrible

549
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: because she said that he was in military and was

550
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: not able to get treatment through veteran services. And I'm

551
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: sure she feels bitter about it too because it like

552
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: it ruined her marriage. Her kids are now dead, and

553
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: she saw something break inside of him because of his

554
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: experience being in the military.

555
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: Well, I think sometimes it's hard to be angry with

556
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: somebody that you know is mentally ill and it's not

557
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: their conscious choices. Yeah, I know, so it's it's it's

558
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: like so not that she's not properly grieving her children

559
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: and not mad and devastated about I can't even I

560
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: can't even imagine how you would feel. And then she

561
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: probably feels terrible because she felt like maybe there was

562
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: something she could do to prevent it.

563
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: And and you know, there's all these different thoughts that

564
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: go through your head. But just hearing about it, it

565
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: just you just see this whole family shattered and broken

566
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: by this, and it's it's it's really just sad to

567
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: look at. So I don't know, like where the guy

568
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: is now, but now there he's armed and dangerous blah

569
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: blah blah, or he may be armed, their saying, and

570
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: and we don't know where he's at as of today.

571
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's been on the run since, if

572
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: he's still alive, since May thirtieth. I mean today is

573
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: June tenth, so it's been a while, you know, over

574
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: over a week and a half.

575
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know. We'll keep you guys updated

576
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: on this story. It's just like, I don't know why

577
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: it's bothering me so bad. It just seems, well, you

578
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: have three.

579
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: Daughters, you had a custody arrangement with me, it's easy

580
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: to place yourself and this woman shoes.

581
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I do and I know, I know

582
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: lots of people that have custody issues, and you know,

583
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: it's it's it's just sad. But the way that they

584
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: were killed, it's just thinking about kids having their hands

585
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: tied and having a bag over their head and not

586
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: being able to breathe and remove it. It's just so

587
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: it's so disturbing and you have to wonder, like what

588
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: was what was going through his mind to do this.

589
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: So over the weekend in Vegas, people heard gunshots near

590
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: the Belagio Fountains and it ends up that this whole

591
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: thing was on a live stream where this guy just

592
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: like walked up and killed these two people on the street.

593
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: It turns out that they had some online dispute, but

594
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: the guy has turned himself in. Now.

595
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the guy, I guess one of the people

596
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: was named Finn the Legend, So he was the one

597
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: that was live streaming.

598
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: Did you see the video? I saw the video. I

599
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: thought it was like a casino live stream of some sorts.

600
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was a no.

601
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: He was filming the video and then the guy shot

602
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: the one guy and it was like, I don't know

603
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: if it's a husband and wife or a boyfriend girlfriend,

604
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: like a partner situation whatever. But you could hear her

605
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: screaming like are you f and kidding me? Are you

606
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: f and kidding me? After the guy shot her her guy,

607
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden the camera went down

608
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: and that was it. And then she got killed too.

609
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: So apparently they just had some like online. I don't

610
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: really know exactly what it was about that. Yeah, it

611
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: was just like a vague online dispute. Yeah, I mean

612
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: they said it's been going on for years. One of

613
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: them pepper sprayed another one and then on the video said,

614
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad it wasn't it was just pepper spray because

615
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was bullets or something like that. So

616
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: clearly they've had something going on back and forth. I

617
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: don't know how what caused that to happen. And you

618
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: just sit there and think, like, why would anybody, especially

619
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: on film, like you're not getting out of it, right,

620
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: but why would you throw your whole life away to

621
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: kill somebody like that? And and it you know, another

622
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: part of it is scary, like we were just in Vegas.

623
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: One of my best friends lives in Vegas, and you

624
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: just you sit there and you you look around and

625
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: everybody's walked by that. You could see the little balloon

626
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: from the Paris Hotel in the background, and you don't

627
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: want to think that you're just walking up the street

628
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: and someone is going to start shooting seven bullets. That's what.

629
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: There were seven gunshots right out front, like not super

630
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: late at night, you know, and it's it's scary.

631
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's that shocking in Vegas, that's

632
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: something like that would happen on the strip.

633
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: I but I think it happens that often, like Vegas

634
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: is I feel like maybe I'm being totally naive that

635
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: I think you're really naive.

636
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: I think really fucked up shit goes down in Vegas

637
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: all the time in public space.

638
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: I think things go down because there's just a lot

639
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: of alcohol and gambling and money and draws.

640
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: The main thing there is drugs. But I don't know.

641
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't very surprised by this. I actually can't believe

642
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: there's not more shootings. I think the interesting component of

643
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: this is that it was caught on a live stream

644
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: like that.

645
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 1: I don't know.

646
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: I think it's ironic that you can't go live for

647
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: the endless three hundred and sixty five day band that

648
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: you have for just we just can't.

649
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, we just can't get over that I'm banned

650
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: from life life streaming.

651
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: Well, it's just so it's just such a stupid rule.

652
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: When you're not even technically breaking the rules, they just

653
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: deem you are. I don't know. All I'm thinking when

654
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: we're writing the notes for this case is being a

655
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 2: cop in Las Vegas must be the most ridiculous job

656
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: of all times. People.

657
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think like it's the same. It's

658
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: the same with being a PA in pathology, right, Like

659
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: being in the city in a hospital is way more

660
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: entertaining as far as pathology goes. It's not good for

661
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: the patients, but it's good for if you're into pathology.

662
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: Because people are addicts, they don't take care of themselves whatever,

663
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: and it's just they don't go to the doctor, they

664
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: don't have insurance. But it makes for really good pathology

665
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: in the hospital. Listen, if you're a cop in like

666
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: a clean little town that the biggest crime they have

667
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: is I don't even know, like a child shoplifting from

668
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: a comedience store, it might be a little boring. So

669
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: I think that cops in Vegas are although it is crazy,

670
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: they probably love it. It's the same. Like Gabe feels

671
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: that way about being a fireman, Like he doesn't want

672
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: to work around here, he wants to work in the

673
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: city where there's lots of fires because he wants to

674
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: go to fires. That's usually when you're doing a job

675
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: like that and you have passion, you want to be

676
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: where the action is. You know.

677
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: Well, you know, my husband always like talks to everybody.

678
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 2: He makes eye contact with too. But when we were

679
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: in Vegas, he got to small chat or to small

680
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: talking with a cleaning person on the elevator at the

681
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: hotel we were staying at, and she's like, oh, it's

682
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: a rough night, you don't You can't even believe the

683
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: stuff we see here.

684
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, he's probably like on the lines of Diddy parties,

685
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: just like semen and baby oil and weird shit and

686
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: that's all over.

687
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: This is the book everybody wants. Is the crazy shit

688
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: the hotel staff sees that the public doesn't get to

689
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: see when they go in the rooms, when people check out.

690
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 2: I'd be very fascinated by right, Yeah, I'm gonna put

691
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna push for any Las Vegas hotel staff you

692
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: got to push her through a publication of a book.

693
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to know what goes on behind the scenes,

694
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: all right.

695
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: This next story is talking about a viral video of

696
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: some woman who thought that her oat milk that she

697
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: was making with her coffee in the morning tasted a

698
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: little off, and she made this video that's now gone

699
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: viral about what happened when she opened the box of

700
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: the oat milk.

701
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 2: So, I think everybody's been there when you might use

702
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: milk out of your fridge or whatever to make your

703
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: coffee and it tastes a little off, but you're like, whatever,

704
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: it's not bad enough. So that's what happened to her.

705
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: The next day, she makes it again and is like,

706
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: this is disgusting. I'm going to investigate a little further.

707
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: So she cuts open the container of the oat milk

708
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: that she just used, and she's explaining how it's disgusting.

709
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: And I'm watching this TikTok and I'm reading the comments

710
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: that are saying this is the nastiest thing I've ever seen,

711
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: and I'm like, whatever, I've seen both these before, like

712
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: it can't be that bad. This is actually horrific looking it.

713
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: Is, And I think it's because it's like this gelatinous,

714
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: moldy material that is inside and just thinking that she

715
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: was drinking something and having chunks in her drink from

716
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: this whatever is happening here. I think that's really what

717
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: is the most disturbing part of the video. And there

718
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: are lots of comments too underneath. Also, if you search

719
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: this for this on Reddit, you'll see that there's a

720
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: lot of different pictures of people using different brands and

721
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: showing similar findings.

722
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: You see that somebody said they screenshot it reverse. I

723
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: mid searched it and it said it was basil silk carcinoma.

724
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: Like this is literally what this looks. It looks like

725
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: something on a peatrie dish. It really does.

726
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: It looks like a like a mold growing on a

727
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: peatrie dish. It's crazy. So the interesting things that I

728
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: found looking up some of this stuff. I wanted to

729
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: see if this was a thing with oat milk, and

730
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: apparently in twenty twenty oat milk really blew up with

731
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: sALS going over five hundred percent. Wait till you hear

732
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: why this is. This is classic. It apparently almond milk

733
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: was quote canceled due to using up too much water

734
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: to produce it, so if you talked to gen Z

735
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: about it, you would be accused of not caring about

736
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: the environment, and oat milk became synonymous with being a conscientious,

737
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: super conscientious consumer.

738
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: Whoever left us the review about the gluten health misinformation

739
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 2: that seemingly was working for Big Bread that just didn't

740
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: like what we had to say, is also not going

741
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: to like what we have to say about oat milk.

742
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: I mean, they're in my in my knowledge, there's not

743
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: much nutritional benefit to drinking oat milk. It's a good

744
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: alternative for people that have like nuts, soy, and dairy allergies.

745
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: That's it. I virginally don't think it tastes that good.

746
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: It's a lot of calories. I don't know about that.

747
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: Cancel's milk almond milk was canceled like this is a

748
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: serious article.

749
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 2: Well I didn't get the memo. But maybe because I'm

750
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: a boomer and some.

751
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: Well you're not being a conscientious consumer because I don't

752
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: care about the environment. See is this exactly why I'm

753
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: hesitant to do this bun tutorial that everybody is has

754
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: been asking me to do for years, because as soon

755
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: as I do it and people see that I'm using

756
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: aerosol hairspray. There's going to be like some trying to

757
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: cancel me for that or whatever. But seriously, like people

758
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: have only in twenty twenty, could you cancel milk, And

759
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: of course you're canceling itf for something that has no

760
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: nutritional value whatsoever. It's just I mean, like listen, like

761
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: oat milk tastes good and stuff, but it's high in

762
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: calorie and it has no protein. It's like, there's absolutely

763
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: no point. It's it's definitely not any kind of an

764
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: alternative to milk whatsoever. And I guess soy milk is

765
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: the best one, but I could see people don't want

766
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: to have it because of the increased estrogeny. I mean,

767
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of a real concern. But also people have

768
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: soy allergy too, So I guess with the oat milk,

769
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: they're saying that it comes sterilized in the container when

770
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: the lid is shut, so the only time it can

771
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: have exposure to having bacteria or to having fungus is

772
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: if the lid is let open. And we don't know

773
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: the story with this girl, and this is why it's

774
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 1: kind of unfortunate that this isn't done with a real study.

775
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: This is just like a TikTok person that's posting their experience.

776
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: But I'm just putting it out there that it's possible

777
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: that she made milk and left it out on the

778
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: counter with the lid off like all day and then

779
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, I forgot to put this away

780
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: and then put it in the fridge, and then that's

781
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: what happened, because we don't have a control of that,

782
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: you know.

783
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: Well, I think also because it's non dairy, people think

784
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: it's safer to leave out for longer periods of time.

785
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: One thing that I did learn though, which is interesting,

786
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: is that when you have these kinds of milk, she

787
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: should try to keep them in the coldest part of

788
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: the refrigerator, which ironically would not be the door, because

789
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: the door is the warmest part of the refrigerator and

790
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: probably most people keep that kind of stuff on the door.

791
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that's probably right, especially because I

792
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: feel like the fridge I have is one that's really common.

793
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: They like the double door, you know, yeah, big shelves

794
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: on it.

795
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying that that's where most people

796
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: would keep milk and things like that, and that is

797
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: probably the worst place to keep it. So I guess

798
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 1: it's just gross. And I don't know, like i've you've

799
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: you've opened milk before and it's spelt it's it's smelled bad,

800
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, this is it's even the

801
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: even if the date is off, just sometimes you have

802
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: a bad batch or whatever. But there's nothing as gross

803
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: as this picture of the oat milk. Like, no thanks,

804
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: I'd rather drink spoiled milk any day than than look

805
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: at that. Well, that just looks like it's it's it's

806
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: because it's gelatinous. Everything that's gelatinous is just nasty.

807
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: I just don't think that. I mean, I could be wrong,

808
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: but I use primarily almond milk and I've definitely had

809
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: it past it as expiration date. But I don't think

810
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 2: it gives off the same rancid odor that regular milk

811
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: does when it's bad. So unless it's like physically changed

812
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: color or something.

813
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: It probably has like a twinge of a different taste.

814
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: Obviously it's not going to smell like milk because it's

815
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: not milk. It's not an animal product.

816
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, like I don't think like milk

817
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: that it gives a similar rancid odor, but it definitely

818
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 2: will taste bad, but you already may have drink.

819
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: Do you remember, Do you remember? So my brother Goes

820
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: has a house in the mountains, which is kind of

821
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: like three hours away from us in Pennsylvania, right, and

822
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: he stops at this farm sometimes and he gets like

823
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: milk to he gets farm milk to bring home, and

824
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: it's usually like really good because it's not pasteurized. Probably

825
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: that's why it's good. It tastes like really creamy and stuff.

826
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: But he chocolate milk for the kids.

827
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: Do you remember that? And the best is that I

828
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: drank it first, and.

829
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: So Maria, Maria drinks it and she's like, ew, this

830
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: tastes like farm like hey or something. And I was like, no,

831
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't. And I'm like, let me try it. And

832
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: it did. It tastes It just tasted like chocolate on

833
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: top of the smell of like a cow and hay

834
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: and poop. I don't even know what.

835
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: It wasn't like, it wasn't the traditional spoiled taste. It

836
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: tastes it tastes hey, yes, water like.

837
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 1: It was so freaking gross. And then I'm like now

838
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: and now I'm forever tainted. I'm like, you know what,

839
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: I put. The more chemicals and process you do to

840
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: this milk, the better I never want to taste that again.

841
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: I was that was disturbing.

842
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: No, that was gross, Okay our final story, of course,

843
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: this came out after we wrote about physician assistant suicide.

844
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like yeah, like days afterwards.

845
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. So last year we had talked about this woman

846
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: who died in the Sarco pod, which is this chamber

847
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 2: designed for people to kill themselves by pressing a button

848
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: to release gas. We go really into this case in

849
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: the post in the gross Room, but it ended up

850
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: being extremely controversial because when they did an autopsy on

851
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: this woman, there was signs of strangulation and there was

852
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: like what happened? Did she actually die from the gas

853
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: or did somebody kill her. So the doctor involved with

854
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 2: this case, doctor Floridian Willett, he was arrested and if

855
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: I think in December, they proved that he didn't have

856
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: anything to do with like a homicide or anything. But

857
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: now he's died by suicide.

858
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: So this is what's supposed to happen. You're supposed to

859
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: go in this pod and you push a button and

860
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: then it drops the amount of oxygen from twenty one

861
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: percent that's normally would be in the air to zero

862
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: point zero five percent in less than thirty seconds, and

863
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: that's supposed to cause the person to pass out and

864
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: then this nitrogen gas is released that will eventually cause

865
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: the person to die. And the guy, the guy that

866
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: we're talking about right now, was the only witness to

867
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: watch this first suicide death in this pod happen. And

868
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: apparently he called the maker of the pod into it,

869
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: like two and a half minutes into it. It's her

870
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,479
Speaker 1: body started to cramp and then there was a loud

871
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: alarm that went off, so he called the creator of

872
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: the pod, I guess basically trying to be like, oh

873
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: my god, she's not dead. What the hell do I do?

874
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: And there was like something happened on the phone call

875
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: or whatever. She's still alive, Philip, he said, And then

876
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: she eventually dead and died and he said, oh, well,

877
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: she looks dead. I don't know whatever. Okay, So you

878
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: would expect the autopsy would show that she had signs

879
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: of hypoxia and then that was her cause of death,

880
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: was that she died from from a lack of oxygen, right,

881
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: And no, they found something that said that there was

882
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: strong evidence that she was strangled. So you don't get

883
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: when they say that that means that there's marks around

884
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: the neck, there's hemorrhage and bruising around the neck suggested

885
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: that somebody put their hands around her neck. You don't

886
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: just get those bruises. They don't get there, and they're

887
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: very specific. Sometimes you could even see like handprints, thumb

888
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: prints or something like that, so on the skin that

889
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: leave bruises, and then you would see hemorrhage in the

890
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: strap muscles below. You could also find that the hywaid

891
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: bone is broken. We don't know exactly what they found,

892
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: but they were kind of suspicious and he was in

893
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: jail because of it. And then in January, apparently he

894
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 1: fell from a third story of his apartment. They don't

895
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: know if he fell or they don't know if he jumped,

896
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: but he survived whatever it was, and he had surgery

897
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: and stuff and was laying there healed, and now all

898
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he himself had physician assistant suicide. So

899
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was trying to kill himself.

900
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that makes me think even more that she

901
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: didn't die and he was like I gotta finish this off,

902
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: and not happy that they investigated the death, Like maybe

903
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: he thought that since she was found dead in the pod,

904
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: that that would have been the end of it, but

905
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: they investigated it and now he got caught.

906
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: I mean, the headline's crazy, which is their goal at

907
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: the press, right euthanasia advocate dies by suicide after being

908
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: involved with this extremely controversial death, then having this weird

909
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: quote unquote accident where he fell three stories and then

910
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: had to have all these surgeries and how you know,

911
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: he didn't want to go through with it. So it's

912
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: definitely weird.

913
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: But that's a good that's a good dissection we did

914
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: in the grosser room though, so check that out because

915
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's only one small part of it. We

916
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: go through all of the different methods and really the

917
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: whole entire thing of it's disturbing. But from this guy's perspective,

918
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: like he told this this woman pushed the button and

919
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: she was supposed to die, and then she wasn't dying

920
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: and she was alive still, So he was trying to

921
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: like if if indeed he did strangle her, he was

922
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: trying to like finish the job and end the suffering.

923
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: Well, I mean like, but like, that's not okay.

924
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: And that's not the protocol, and he did he might

925
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: have been the person. I mean listen, like, if there

926
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: was evidence that she was strangled and there were bruising,

927
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: then that means that she was alive while he was

928
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: strangling her. Yeah, but he got cleared of murder. Also,

929
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: when they invent this pod, is there a human test

930
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: subject or was that her? Like, did they know for

931
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: a fact it even worked or was she doing the experiment?

932
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: We could say that about all of the physician assistant

933
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: suicide methods that that like, they don't always go according

934
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: to plan, and that's what we talk about in the

935
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: post about just horrific experiences people had with their family

936
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: members doing this.

937
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: So I mean, honestly, this method is so much worse

938
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: than euthanasia because euthanasia, you're at least getting like the

939
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: injection right that takes you out, similar to what prisoners

940
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: are getting.

941
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you you're paralyzed and you're having pulmonary

942
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: a demon feel like you're drowning to death.

943
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: And so I'm not saying that's an awesome method, but

944
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: it's better than taking one hundred pills in like an hour,

945
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: or in this case, being in this podcast, does it work?

946
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: So you would prefer to be paralyzed and just feel

947
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: like you're drowning and you can't even communicate to anyone

948
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: like I don't.

949
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: We're taking one hundred pills that might not work either,

950
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: and then suffering in a whole different type of way.

951
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 2: Let's want of questions of the day. Every Friday a

952
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: mother does death Instagram account. You guys can head over

953
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: to our story and ask whatever you want first. Is

954
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: spontaneous human combustion a real thing? So I would say no.

955
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: We actually did a high profile death to section on

956
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: this in the grocer Room a couple of years ago.

957
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: So I'll give you some information from that post, but

958
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: you should really read the whole thing because it's interesting

959
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: and it has some actual cases and shows a lot

960
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: of the theories about what people think versus people. There

961
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: are people who think it is a thing, and then

962
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: there's people who don't think it that it's a thing.

963
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the people who do think it's

964
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: a thing. So there's so what happens with spontaneous human

965
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: combustion is that a person dies in a very unusual

966
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: way there and that's why I want you to see

967
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: the cases and look at what the people look like.

968
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's weird because their whole entire body,

969
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: their upper body is burned almost to ash, and sometimes

970
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: their legs are completely intact, and like the couch that

971
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: they're sitting on isn't really burned and the rest of

972
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: the room isn't really burned. And you look at it

973
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, if a person, if a human body

974
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: is going completely to ash, that means that it has

975
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: to reach a temperature of over three thousand degrees. So

976
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: if that happens, you would expect to see the room

977
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: being really burnt up a lot more than it is.

978
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: So they think that it's something that's happening within a

979
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: person that's causing a fire. So what they're saying is

980
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: that they think that ketosis is a possible cause of this,

981
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: and this is a metabo condition that could happen in alcoholics, diabetics,

982
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: or people that are on a low carb diet. You've

983
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: even heard of ketosis, and the ketosis can lead to

984
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: a volatile actone being breathed out by the person, which

985
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: is highly flammable, and they think that that could be

986
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: the cause of this spontaneous combustion. Now, people that disprove it,

987
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: they also say that that's possible, that's a possibility, but

988
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: there has to be some kind of a flame source.

989
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: So people are saying that it's likely due to a candle,

990
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: a lamp, fireplace, a cigarette especially, and also could be seen.

991
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: So there's there's a demographic, like you know how we

992
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: were talking about on the when I was saying that

993
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: I don't believe SIDS is a thing because it's a

994
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: certain demographic of people that it happens to. Well, suppose

995
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: spontaneous human combustion is a certain demographic people. They all are,

996
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: all of them, almost all of them are chronic alcoholics, obese,

997
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: and incapacitated in some way. And another interesting thing is

998
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: that the scenes they find this weird oiling, like waxy

999
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: coating on the walls and ceilings. So they're saying that

1000
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: it's like almost like the person catches on fire, and

1001
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: it's almost like a wick effect that you would see

1002
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: with a candle because of a person's fat. It's a

1003
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: similar thing that you would use to make candles, and

1004
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: it's causing the people to burn and all of the

1005
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: wax is ending up on the walls and stuff. It's

1006
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: really it's it's really really unusual. But it's a very

1007
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: fun high profile death dissection to read with real life

1008
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 1: cases and pictures of people that have been accused of

1009
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: of spontaneously combusting. So it's pretty cool, all right.

1010
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: Is doing your gel nails under a UV light without

1011
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: protection a real concern?

1012
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: I like, personally, I think that probably is. But there's

1013
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 1: there's the FDA is saying that it's low less low

1014
00:52:55,040 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: risk if you're reading the label. I personally think so.

1015
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: Like someone like me, like I've been getting my nails

1016
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: done since I was like thirteen years old, going every

1017
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: two weeks for the most part, except during the pandemic,

1018
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of exposure. There's definitely people that

1019
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: think that you should put and I people that I

1020
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: know that either sell these like certain gloves that only

1021
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: leave your fingernails exposed, or that put suntanlotion on their

1022
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: hands before putting their hands under the light.

1023
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,959
Speaker 2: Somebody told me one time their salon put suntan lotion

1024
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: on their hands, and I was blown away by that.

1025
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 2: I hadn't even thought about it, you know, And now

1026
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: I think about.

1027
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: It because it's the same it's the same kind of theory.

1028
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: It's not the same exact thing, but it's the same

1029
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: kind of beams that are used in tanning beds. And

1030
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: so this the FDA right now says that it's safe.

1031
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: And you could take that with a grain of salt,

1032
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: because I'm sure they've said lots of things that are

1033
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: safe that are not safe. So there was a study

1034
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: done by a group called rad Tech, and they showed

1035
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: studies out of Massachusetts General Hospital and Brown University, and

1036
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 1: it's said, quote, so typical now salon exposures are well

1037
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: within the limits of permissible daly UV exposure and that

1038
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 1: one would need two hundred and fifty years of weekly

1039
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: noil maintenance in order to have enough that would increase

1040
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: your risk for cancer. So I don't know, like I

1041
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: don't know what to say. I mean, I still go

1042
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: and get my nails done because because I think the

1043
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: risk is worth it. Honestly, I guess if you're that

1044
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: has can't yet, like, well, put.

1045
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: Tuntan lotion on if you're really concerned about it. Yeah,

1046
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 2: get the gloves.

1047
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they saw you could probably get them

1048
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: on Amazon. They're like fingerless or just use any fingerless

1049
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: gloves would probably be fine if it doesn't penetrate the fabric.

1050
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: But I really like even the one that I have

1051
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: at my house. It's only it only fixes the polish

1052
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: for sixty seconds, so it's it's a quick it's a

1053
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: quick thing. And there are ones that are made to

1054
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: be safer and not, but I will and trust that

1055
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: the one that your salon is, so I don't know,

1056
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: all right.

1057
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: Last, what kind of wedding cake did you both have?

1058
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: Mine was a simple cake from this bakery in South

1059
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: Jersey that's really really good, and it was a canoli

1060
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: cake and it just said to death do us part.

1061
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: It was a little like what ten inch cake that

1062
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: fed the ten people at my wedding And that was it,

1063
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: and it was probably forty dollars.

1064
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also had a canoli cake that our great

1065
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: family friend Lynn made for us and it was the

1066
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: most delicious cake ever. And then that was gluten free.

1067
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: And then for the rest of my dessert, I just

1068
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: bought like a ton of cookies and stuff from a

1069
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: bakery in South Philly that I love for everybody else.

1070
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then her wedding topper was the best part

1071
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: because she go where did you get that.

1072
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I got this vintage cake topper on Etsy because

1073
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: it had like crazy eyebrows, which I'm always saying. My

1074
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: husband's like, you're crazy, and he looks like angry all

1075
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: the time. So I bought it because of that. And

1076
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: you and I asked if you could just paint the

1077
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: hair red because the guy in the on the top

1078
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: her head black hair. I guess it's like a like

1079
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: a porcelain nineteen sixties one. So then you spent an

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Speaker 2: entire day painting it to look like both of us. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was fun. Well in the broadcast, yeah, I was.

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Speaker 1: Like, I was like post that in one of our

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Speaker 1: stories or something, because that was that was fun. Well,

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Speaker 1: what do you can't tell me something like that because

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Speaker 1: I'm a crazy person, Like yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean she did our tattoos. She it was like crazy,

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Speaker 2: Well what why stop at the red hair?

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Speaker 1: Like at that point? So it but that was fun.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we both had Connoli cakes, which I honestly like,

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Speaker 1: if that's what you're wondering, I feel like that's a

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Speaker 1: say they don't like the flavor of a canoli? Come on,

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Speaker 1: they're like some people.

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Speaker 2: Might not know what cannoli cake is, because I'm learning

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Speaker 2: that a lot of desserts we like are very regional

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Speaker 2: to hear. But it's basically just a vanilla cake with

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Speaker 2: like a ricotta marshcapone filling with chocolate chips. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's the best thing ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's because I I'm like a huge chocolate

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Speaker 1: just enough chocolate that it doesn't give you that rich,

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Speaker 1: very It's just it's just good.

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Speaker 2: It's very good. I actually haven't had conoli cake in

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Speaker 2: a while and now really crave in it. So maybe

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Speaker 2: I'll make make it myself one, or maybe I'll make

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Speaker 2: one for Father's Day this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you should, because I'll definitely get in on that.

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