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Speaker 1: Here we go. It is a Thursday. We are live.

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Speaker 1: It is the Herd. Lots of choices out there. Thanks

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Speaker 1: a lot of news out there, a lot of news

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Speaker 1: to all of it. Jmat I swear this is the

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Speaker 1: last time I'm going to talk about this story because

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Speaker 1: it's going to go away. I think it's going to

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Speaker 1: just like disappear and vanish into the ether. About Lebron

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Speaker 1: James being traded have changed, So I want to just

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Speaker 1: say for them, I hope this is the final time

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Speaker 1: I talk about it. But something that's not being discussed.

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Speaker 1: I saw the Athletic yesterday acknowledged Lebron James in a buyout.

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Speaker 1: Lebron James in a trade has not been discussed by

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. So this to me has always been a

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Speaker 1: nothing burger. It's July. It's slow bread crumbs becomes stories, folks.

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Speaker 1: Lebron has a no trade clause. He's still in control

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Speaker 1: here year twenty three. Michael Jordan was not in control

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Speaker 1: like this. Michael Jordan had a bad contract. It's first

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Speaker 1: ten years in the league, Bird Magic. They weren't in

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Speaker 1: control like this. I don't know if Brady was until

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Speaker 1: the end, right, I mean they drafted Garoppolo. They wanted

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Speaker 1: it out sooner. Lebron's in year twenty three. He's the

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Speaker 1: only NBA player with a no trade clause. Now, I

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Speaker 1: would go to Dallas in a trade. If I could

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Speaker 1: play alongside Anthony Davis again, rookie Cooper Flag, and Derek Lively.

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Speaker 1: I'd go in a heartbeat with a better coach and

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Speaker 1: Jason Kidd. But Lebron's not going to get traded unless

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Speaker 1: he says yes. And where are you going to put him?

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Speaker 1: Where would Lebron outside of a Dallas lineup? If he

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Speaker 1: could play with Kyrie and Ad again in Cooper Flag,

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Speaker 1: Derek Lively, they'd have to involve with a third team.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. But because the Lakers were such a circus

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Speaker 1: when Lebron arrived in LA, they have been caving to

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Speaker 1: him and should be since day one. Again, Jordan didn't

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Speaker 1: have this kind of power. Brady didn't have this kind

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Speaker 1: of power. He was taking paycots. So honestly, the Lakers

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Speaker 1: for the last fifteen years, a lot of them have

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Speaker 1: been poorly run. I mean, if you look at the

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Speaker 1: worst record in the NBA, worse than the Wizards, much

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Speaker 1: worse than the Washington Wizards. And so the one advantage,

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Speaker 1: This is it. But when Sean Payton goes to the

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Speaker 1: So and I think that's the one advantage. Now, generally

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Speaker 1: forty year old Lebron James. So people can talk about

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban had a lot for a long time and

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Speaker 1: He is a big radio star in Alabama, and he

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Speaker 1: said this week that people he trusts are telling him

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Speaker 1: He is hearing that Nick Saban could come back and coach.

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Speaker 1: So I believe this is true, but it's not Alabama.

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Speaker 1: So let me squash the Alabama rumors. They're not going

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Speaker 1: to happen. Alabama doesn't have the money. They're struggling to

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Speaker 1: to buy out Caitlin de Bor for about seventy million,

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Speaker 1: They're Deutsche Bank. They don't have the money these days

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Speaker 1: to buy out Kaitlin de boor fifteen million to eighteen

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Speaker 1: is Rockefeller, Capital is Blackstone. So that's not happening now.

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Speaker 1: As I talked about yesterday, Nick Saban to the NFL,

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Speaker 1: just to the numbers, seven coaches annually on average get

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Speaker 1: fired seven Okay. Secondly, coordinators hit thirty percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing to think about is, like Pete Carroll,

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban may be older, but he doesn't look, act

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Speaker 1: I mean he literally when he got to Alabama, it

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin shows up and from that point forward, they

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Speaker 1: of old people age. Well, Nick Saban is one of them.

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Speaker 1: is an innovator. He's not going to college. Remember because

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Speaker 1: of the NIL to buy out these coaches, which used

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Speaker 1: to happen all the time. You write a forty million

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Speaker 1: dollar check. Well, now coaches that check is like sixty

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Speaker 1: Kaitlin Devor and you got to raise twenty million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year for the nil's stash. So and you'd have

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Speaker 1: to pay Saban fifteen. It's not happening. Bama does not

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Speaker 1: have those kind of boosters. They don't. Texas does. And

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban knew two years before he left college football.

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Speaker 1: He was grumbling about the money that Texas and Austin

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Speaker 1: was raising in their billionaire donors. The NFL thing with Saban,

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Speaker 1: I think he'll get frustrated with being an analyst. I

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Speaker 1: think deep down he's always felt he's every bit the

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Speaker 1: coach of Belichick, but we don't mention him as one

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Speaker 1: of the all time great coaches because he's a college guy.

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Speaker 1: Albert Breer yesterday on the always innovative, maybe old but

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Speaker 3: Nick Saban, the one thing about Dallas that people misunderstand is, yes,

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Speaker 3: Jerry's involved in football, but the coach is involved in

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Speaker 3: scouting too. Like the coach is involved in putting the

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Speaker 3: team together, and that's always been the way that it's

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Speaker 3: been run there in that Like they've got a really

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Speaker 3: good personnel department. Will McLay does a great job, but

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Speaker 3: they've always involved the coach and how the team is

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Speaker 3: put together. If Jerry was going to do this, part

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Speaker 3: of it would be are you willing to take a

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Speaker 3: back seat and move away from the spotlight for a

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Speaker 3: little bit to see if Nick Saban can come and

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Speaker 1: Okay, And the reason we talk Saban the Schottenheimer thing

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Speaker 1: is not going to work. Jerry's now eighty two. I

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Speaker 1: think he's much less patient than he was fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: And Saban and the Cowboys feels huge. Just think of

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Speaker 1: what Jim Harbaugh to the second most popular team in

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Speaker 1: a quake. It was huge. Saban plus the Cowboys just

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Speaker 1: how does that right now? Dallas Cowboys have a problem.

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Speaker 1: I mean they really do. For free agents, they have

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Speaker 1: a problem. They have a credibility issue. Like free agents

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Speaker 1: and I talked about this yesterday for over ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: I think Saban, and I don't think he's wrong here.

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Speaker 1: I think Saban And for years and years I said

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Speaker 1: about Jim Harbaugh. Harbaugh's as good a football coach as

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Speaker 1: Belichick and Andy Reid. And that's why Jim Harball wanted

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Speaker 1: to go back to the pros with a legitimate quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Is that I think Nick Saban, like Harbaugh, feels like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: You got to succeed at the highest level of coaching.

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Speaker 1: And I think Saban, like Pete Carroll, feels ten years

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Speaker 1: younger and thinks like he's ten years younger than he is.

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Speaker 1: A lot of old guys don't age well. Saban does.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this is my summer prediction. Katie to

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Speaker 1: the Warriors, that was nuts too. Belichick to North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: boldest prediction of the summer. You got to have one,

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Speaker 1: and this is mine. I know, Jay Mac, you're not

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Speaker 1: in this league. And by the way, just say it

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Speaker 1: out loud. Saban to the Cowboys. Jerry loves his team

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Speaker 1: being talked about on TV, Romo on CBS, Aikman on ESPN,

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Speaker 1: Michael Irvin forever on the NFL network. He loves that.

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Speaker 1: You can say what you want about Jerry. But a

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Speaker 1: lot of times there's been a criticism he cares more

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Speaker 1: about the marketing than the actual Super Bowl winning. He's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Colin, I'll say that's a spicy take to start

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Speaker 4: the show. But what's the saying right Church wrong pew.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you've heard that. I do think save In

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Speaker 4: to the NFL makes sense, But remember what happened in Miami.

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Speaker 5: When he went to Miami. He wanted Drew Brees.

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Speaker 4: He had Drew Brees locked in and the doctors didn't

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Speaker 4: clear breeze, so he had to settle for Culpepper got

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Speaker 4: the hell out of town. Quarterback matters for Saban, Colin,

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Speaker 4: unless they go three and fourteen and can get arch Manning.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that Dak Prescott gets Saban to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: But I think the team to watch would be the

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Speaker 5: They are favorites and they want to run.

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Speaker 4: Out McDermott, Saban plus Josh Allen in Buffalo getting the

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Speaker 1: Titanic and Oppenheimer, they were both box office smashes, and

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Speaker 1: That doesn't happen in the NFL, where a coach leaves

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Speaker 1: a seven or eight figure salary on his terms. Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy said, I don't want to be here. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: Dallas is about to get really bad, really quickly.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting you mentioned McCarthy. I was just thinking, like, oh,

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Speaker 5: where did Mike McCarthy land.

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Speaker 4: Is he coaching anywhere in the league because he was

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Speaker 4: so good with Dallas and uh no, he's.

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Speaker 5: Not currently coaching anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Is that a surprise?

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Speaker 1: No, sit on the beach, take every penny of it. No,

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Speaker 1: I would not. I would sit. I'd go up in

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee in the Dells, and I'd go play golf for

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Speaker 1: the next fifteen months.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're all over the place here the best

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Speaker 5: quarterback of the division.

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Speaker 1: I had to check.

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Speaker 5: Is there a memo that I missed about Jalen Hurts?

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Speaker 5: The Super Bowl MVP?

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Speaker 2: Is he dead?

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Speaker 5: I mean, did you forget about the Super Bowl MVP?

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Speaker 1: Collin?

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Speaker 5: Anyways, you're on a hot streak today.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Final story is the Detroit Lions. A lot of talk

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Speaker 4: about this offense. They lose Ben Johnson to the Bears.

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Speaker 4: They replaced him with former pass game coordinator John Morton. Well,

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Speaker 4: they're tight end in Detroit. Sam Laporta believes the offense

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Speaker 4: is going to stay humming.

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Speaker 9: We promoted Hank Fraley to our run game coordinator, so

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Speaker 9: fortunate for me, we have the same run game system

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Speaker 9: this year, the same verbiage, which, as you can imagine,

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Speaker 9: is a lot. But Johnny mo pass game coordinator, his

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Speaker 9: entire life. Brilliant mind. I think he's going to call

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Speaker 9: the offense great. Brat Holmes has been the best at

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Speaker 9: finding guys in the league that fit the culture in

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Speaker 9: Detroit and our damn good football players at the end

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Speaker 9: of the day as well. So it starts with Dan

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Speaker 9: Brad and then it works its way down with the players.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know you're a big Ben Johnson guy. You

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Speaker 5: guys are probably going out for drinks tonight.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, I know Lions fans are upset

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Speaker 4: that I keep coming after Colin. If we could get

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Speaker 4: the schedule on the stream for Detroit, Okay, they open

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Speaker 4: against green Bay, always a good rivalry. It is in

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Speaker 4: Green Bay, I would say it's a toss up. Then

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Speaker 4: they play the Bears. They should be fine there, Colin.

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Speaker 4: Look at the games after that. They go to travel

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Speaker 4: to Lamar Jackson, forget Cleveland, at Joe Burrow, at Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: They have to play three of the four best quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: in the NFL in the first like six weeks of

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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 5: There's gonna be a bit of a wake up call

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Speaker 5: for Lions nation year. I think before Halloween. And again,

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Speaker 5: you look at the schedule even the back end.

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Speaker 4: They got the Rams they end at Minnesota at Chicago,

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Speaker 4: those are gonna be cold weather. Sorry the Chicago games outdoors, obviously,

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Man nine wins ten well.

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Speaker 1: They also lost an elite center, so then they try

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Speaker 1: to address that in the draft. So I think the

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Speaker 1: odds makers, your DraftKings, they're going out there and pulling

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Speaker 1: back on the over under. I think everybody sees what

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Speaker 1: you see. So I think everybody nobody thinks this is

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Speaker 1: a fourteen or a thirteen win team. The schedule's tougher,

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Speaker 1: they lost the interior star of their offensive line, they

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Speaker 1: lost the best offensive coordinator in the sport and a

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Speaker 1: great defensive coordinator. I think everybody's got a beat on

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Speaker 1: the lines. I would say this if you told me

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Speaker 1: there is one division in the NFL that I don't

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Speaker 1: really know what it's going to look like because there's

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Speaker 1: so much competency in certain areas with all these teams.

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Speaker 1: Love the Bears roster. Think Ben's going to hit Kevin

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Speaker 1: O'Connell and that offensive line and the wide receiver group,

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Speaker 1: and Minnesota Green Bay is incredibly well run, and Detroit

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Speaker 1: best offensive line top five in the league, Top four.

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Speaker 1: So there's so much competency in the division. That's that's

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Speaker 1: to me is the one division. I have no idea

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Speaker 1: how it's gonna finish. I really don't. And I and

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Speaker 1: we don't know what JJ McCarthy is. There's another mystery element.

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Speaker 4: Well, I would say the Packers if you're listing teams

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Speaker 4: that I just don't know what they could be.

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 4: If the Packers won seven games, I wouldn't be shot.

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Speaker 4: If they won twelve games, I don't think I'd be surprised.

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Speaker 4: I don't really grasp the Packers. I like McCarthy bear

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Speaker 4: schedules too tough, lions are coming back. I don't know

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Speaker 4: what to do with the Packers. Call it and you

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Speaker 4: you often have a good beat on them, giving your deep.

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Speaker 5: History in the region.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would say this, how many games did they

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Speaker 1: win last year? And they didn't get consistent quarterback play?

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Speaker 1: So that that's a pretty good that that's when you

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Speaker 1: when you they I mean Jordan Love was hurt early,

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Speaker 1: didn't play great late, and the Packers were still a

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Speaker 1: really good football team. That that that's when you know

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Speaker 1: what's a well run organization in the NFL. When you

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Speaker 1: don't get consistent quarter play and are a double digit

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Speaker 1: win team, and they address the wide receiver issue, which

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Speaker 1: we've said for the last two years. All sorts of talent,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel quite right. So again, I will

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Speaker 1: probably talk myself into the Lions and Packers getting to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs out of this division because I just Chicago's

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Speaker 1: the wild card. But again, I don't know what I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen j Mack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't I don't play fantasy football.

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Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to it. I think it's great. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a relatable, connectable thing. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: the value system who you should draft. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: draft Josh Allen that feels like a good one, uh

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Speaker 1: or Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. But here's here's my

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Speaker 1: fantasy I know value. You want to get somebody that

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Speaker 1: nobody quite knows, like a rookie pops. Let me give

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Speaker 1: you a couple people now. Nause Harris has an eye

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Speaker 1: injury a fourth of July fireworks incident. He will play

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Speaker 1: in the regular season. They do have Amarion Hampton the

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Speaker 1: running back, so he'll split some carries. But let me

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Speaker 1: give you an example of the NFL's OHWA has been

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Speaker 1: about who you play for and where you land. Keep

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Speaker 1: your eye on Nause Harris and Devonte Adams, and not

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Speaker 1: just because they play for the Chargers and the Rams.

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Speaker 1: So think about this. Both come from defensive cultures, defensive

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Speaker 1: head coaches, and dysfunctional offenses. The Steelers had the twenty

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Speaker 1: seventh ranked offensive line PFF has the Chargers where Najie

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Speaker 1: Harris is at as the tenth best offensive line, Joe Alt,

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Speaker 1: second year Rashaun Slater, top five left tackle, Jim Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: the head coach. Watch these two guys pop. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking Saquon Barkley pop. But last year Nase Harris

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Speaker 1: was fourteenth in the league in rushing. If he plays

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Speaker 1: again the iron injury, fourth of July, fireworks mishap, he's

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Speaker 1: going to be top ten. And think about Davonte a

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Speaker 1: mean and again, this was the number one high school

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Speaker 1: running back in the country, star at Alabama, and he

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Speaker 1: goes to Pittsburgh and all we hear is he didn't

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Speaker 1: have much of a burst. They're a totally tone deaf,

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Speaker 1: dysfunctional offense. He acknowledged he came out and said, we

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Speaker 1: didn't really have a plan. And it's not like Najee

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Speaker 1: Harris is a flame thrower. He's like a team guy.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna go to the Chargers and

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Speaker 1: I think I think he's gonna pop. The other guy

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Speaker 1: is Devonte Adams. He goes from the Raiders and the

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Speaker 1: Jets to Matt Stafford, Sean McVay an excellent run game,

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Speaker 1: and Pooka Nakua who is often doubled on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the field. So watch the I mean Devonte Adams.

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Speaker 1: People forget even with Aaron last year in the messy Jets.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the year, he was like a

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Speaker 1: real playmaker. So the NFL we always talk about this

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Speaker 1: with rookie quarterbacks. You're as good as where you land

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Speaker 1: and who your head coach is. Here's my fantasy football prediction.

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Speaker 1: You want to get value, watch Najie Harris the Chargers

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Speaker 1: and watch Davonte Adams. Davante Adams got the Willy Wonka

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Speaker 1: Golden Ticket. He's gonna walk in there. He's got Pooka

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Speaker 1: on the other side. Matt Stafford, Kyron Williams excellent run game,

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Speaker 1: a productive tight end. McVeigh calling the plays and Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 1: Would you be surprised if Davonte Adams had eight touchdowns

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Speaker 1: and seventy eight grabs? I would not. And Pooka, by

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Speaker 1: the way, love him, but he gets dinged up. So

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Speaker 1: Davante could very well be a number one receiver for

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Speaker 1: stretches throughout the season. Here's by the way, here's Pooka

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Speaker 1: Nakula on adding Devonte Adams this year.

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Speaker 3: Even more fun to be in the offensive meetings with

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Speaker 3: coach McVay and coach Defour because they're cooking up the.

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Speaker 2: Best place possible. So we're making our defense sweat for sure.

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Speaker 8: The motions, the routes, Davante's coming in with new things

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Speaker 8: that we're thinking about.

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Speaker 5: Matthew wants to say, I want to put the ball

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Speaker 5: on this part of the field.

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Speaker 8: So the trifecta that we have of great football minds

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Speaker 8: is keeping everything super interesting.

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Speaker 1: All right. See football players, you've never relied on me

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Speaker 1: for value or info. Nase Harris, especially Devonte Adams, watch

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Speaker 1: them pop.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: in noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: On Fox Sports is Hummon Right now British Open, John Rahm,

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Speaker 1: Rory McElroy the big favorite the British Open. We've got

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Speaker 1: the baseball season is Hummon. College football's around the corner.

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Speaker 1: Camps are going to be opening up this weekend. So

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Speaker 1: I saw a story this morning where Ohio State lost

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Speaker 1: like a four star recruit to Bill Belichick in North Carolina. So,

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Speaker 1: and I've told you I'm fascinated with this story. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a grumpy seventy three year old who never really

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Speaker 1: showed any interest in college football at all. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: exactly scream home run higher. You know, Belichick at Carolina

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Speaker 1: feels like Donald Trump's first term in the White House.

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Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what is going to look like,

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Speaker 1: but it's going to be interesting. It could get messy.

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Speaker 1: I think if Belichick was in the SEC or the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten, he'd get absolutely rolled. He'd get rolled. But

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Speaker 1: the ACC is so god awful outside of Clemson that

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Speaker 1: he may just coach his way to a lot of wins. So,

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Speaker 1: and if you look at the schedule, it looks like

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Speaker 1: one of those annual US News and World Report lists

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Speaker 1: of the best public universities. Like it's not exactly powerhouses

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Speaker 1: cal Virginia, Syracuse, Stanford, Wake Forest, and Duke. It's like

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Speaker 1: that list of really your really smart nephew told you

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Speaker 1: schools he applied to. That's what it looks like. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna get. Like when Belichick

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Speaker 1: left the NFL, he didn't have any momentum. He fell

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Speaker 1: old and archaic, and college football is changing rapidly. So

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Speaker 1: the odds makers do not buy. I was told this

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Speaker 1: morning by Greg and our staff. The odds makers they've

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Speaker 1: given them the ninth best odds to win the horrible ACC,

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Speaker 1: somewhere around Duke. So and they don't have a great quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at Belichick in his history in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, he didn't win in a sport he loved

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Speaker 1: and was great at and manipulated. He didn't win without

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Speaker 1: great quarterback play. So they lost their best player in

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Speaker 1: memorial Hampton the run game. So I think that this

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Speaker 1: thing could be CD Sola, this could be a circus.

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Speaker 1: This has the potential be just a mess. And again

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Speaker 1: I think the saving grace is his schedule looks like

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Speaker 1: a bunch of academic powerhouses. It's just not very good.

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Speaker 1: But there's nothing here in this high that says home

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Speaker 1: run not good at quarterback, lost their best player, never

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Speaker 1: really had an affinity or interest in the sport. The

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Speaker 1: bad conference thing is what gives it legs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you put them against the Michigan, Ohio State, USC, Oregon, Washington,

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Speaker 1: they're an eighth place team, Illinois this year would house them.

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Speaker 1: Illinois is gonna be really good. So okay, here's another story.

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson of the Vikings, probably the best receiver in

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Speaker 1: the league, has been talking about JJ McCarthy and how

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Speaker 1: much he loves JJ McCarthy, And I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: this this morning. There's not a team in the league

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Speaker 1: right now, in the National Football League where you love

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Speaker 1: the head coach. There are parts of the team you love,

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, the offensive coach, brilliant offensive guy, the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator one of the best in the league, top

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Speaker 1: six roster, maybe the best receiver, and we don't know

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Speaker 1: what they're going to look like. It's a little Jordan

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Speaker 1: love to the packers where we used to complain, could

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Speaker 1: somebody I see more video about Bigfoot? I don't have

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Speaker 1: a piece of video a JJ McCarthy in camp. That's notable.

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Speaker 1: So and here's the other thing. Just just think about this.

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Speaker 1: We all know that first round quarterbacks are about a

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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty hit rate. One's a star, one's not.

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Speaker 1: You get about one to two a year that are

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Speaker 1: really good. So in his draft class, Jaden Daniels is

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Speaker 1: already an A plus. Bo Nix and Drake May are

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Speaker 1: clearly at least B plus. I think both will be

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Speaker 1: better this year. In year two, Kayleb Williams is really talented.

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Speaker 1: My prediction he'll bounce. And then the people in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: like Michael Pennox, are we really going to have a

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Speaker 1: six for six that every single first round quarterback hits?

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00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: Even a five for six would be unprecedented. So remember

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Speaker 1: the Vikings and published reports they were interested in bringing

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold back, published reports they flirted with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: So and again, there is so much about Minnesota to

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Speaker 1: like everybody loves the head coach. Everybody knows how great

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator is, O line major upgrade roster top

687
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Speaker 1: seven or eight. Last year they were top ten offense

688
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: and defense. And I like their draft the wide receiving corps.

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Speaker 1: I mean, JJ McCarthy only needs to be one J.

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Speaker 1: He didn't even have to be great. If he's like

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Speaker 1: bow Knicks, they're a playoff team. I mean Denver did

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Speaker 1: not have Minnesota's roster and made the playoffs in the

693
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Speaker 1: tougher AFC, in a division with Andy Reid and Jim Hartball.

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Speaker 1: So if JJ McCarthy is a slightly lesser version in

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Speaker 1: the NFE of bo Nicks, that is a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: And I have no idea j Maak, I think, is

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Speaker 1: this not one of the teams you're really high on

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Speaker 1: this year? You're a higher on them than I am.

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Speaker 5: So Colin, you know the drill. You've been doing this

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Speaker 5: for like thirty years. You pick a team that you

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Speaker 5: feel is your team of destiny.

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00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: You latch onto them, you believe in the coach, the quarterback,

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Speaker 4: all of it, and you kind of ride them, and

704
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 4: you're either right or wrong. You know, Sometimes you pick

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Speaker 4: a winner. Other times you pick a loser. I have

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Speaker 4: yes hitched my wagon to JJ McCarthy. Now, since I

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Speaker 4: did that, I heard from several people very close to

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Speaker 4: the league or formerly in the league, who were telling

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Speaker 4: me be cautious about McCarthy for a variety of reasons.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to get into on air.

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Speaker 4: I'm still a believer. I love Kevin O'Connell. You've heard

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Speaker 4: the stories from people.

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Speaker 5: Here at Fox. They love him.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we know Flores is great. I think they have

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Speaker 4: a very talented roster. I think they overachieved with Darnold

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Speaker 4: last year.

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Speaker 5: You'd agree, right, They're not not really a fourteen win team.

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Speaker 5: And I do believe McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: I don't care if you want to call him game

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Speaker 4: manager what I think he does enough to get them

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Speaker 4: to the playoffs, and I think there is a dangerous

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Speaker 4: team with a great coach.

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Speaker 1: If factually, if he hits, then we're gonna have to say,

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Speaker 1: if Caleb Williams and JJ McCarthy hit in the same division,

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Speaker 1: it's the best quarterback draft class arguably of all time.

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Speaker 10: Well, it's early fair. Can we get him a couple

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Speaker 10: of playoff wins before we give him hitting? Listen six

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Speaker 10: for sixfine, define hit. What's a hit for McCarthy this year?

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Speaker 1: He's as good as bon Nicks.

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Speaker 5: What does it mean numbers wise, getting.

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Speaker 4: To the playoffs, stats, the look or whatever they call

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Speaker 4: it playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: If they go Darnold fourteen wins and playoffs and then

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Speaker 4: they go McCarthy nine wins and no playoffs, then yeah,

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Speaker 4: it looks like they picked up.

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Speaker 1: I mean right, there are a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: tells you he's bon Knicks. He got an offensive coach,

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Speaker 1: he gets a roster that has some strains. I mean Denver,

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Speaker 1: there were things about Denver we liked. Bon Nicks didn't

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Speaker 1: have a justin Jefferson, No, no, but he had very

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Speaker 1: quickly Sean Payton rebuilt the offensive line and the defense

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Speaker 1: was getting out of the quarterback. I mean they led

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Speaker 1: the NFL in sacks. So there were things about Denver.

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Speaker 1: I think we said this last year when they were

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Speaker 1: playing their rosters better than people think. It's like a

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Speaker 1: real old line or real pass rush. It's they got

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Speaker 1: the best corner I think in the NFL. There are

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Speaker 1: things about Denver that were very playoff feeling. In Sean Payton,

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 4: Like Minnesota has a better offensive line, better running backs,

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Speaker 4: better receivers than Denver.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I think their rosters are very even, and they're both

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Speaker 1: playoff rosters, so make the playoffs bone next to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how are two next?