Speaker 1: Carrie Line. She's a queen and talking, so.
Speaker 2: She's getting really not afraid to feel so so just
Speaker 2: let her flow.
Speaker 1: No one can do we quiet, Cary Line.
Speaker 2: It sound like Caroline Dusty Sleigh is in the house.
Speaker 2: You're you're a fun person to have in the house. Actually,
Speaker 2: well thank you. Okay, So we were talking about dogs
Speaker 2: because my dog was like attacking you. Well not really,
Speaker 2: she just sounds like an attack dog.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I was just sitting in the truck and
Speaker 1: the dog came up, and I felt like I was
Speaker 1: back to delivering pizzas again, where I'm calling, I go, hey,
Speaker 1: your dog's out here, come get your pizza.
Speaker 2: Because honestly, we had this experience with the FedEx driver
Speaker 2: and fed Ex driver, delivery men, all of them, Like
Speaker 2: I understand the thing with dogs, because Sugar, my dog
Speaker 2: ran with her full thing's mouth, ferocious bark. Sounds like
Speaker 2: she's gonna kill you. The FedEx driver, I have never
Speaker 2: seen anyone do this in my life. Hauled ass like
Speaker 2: was flying almost floating on the air, jumped on the
Speaker 2: back of his tail, of his like bumper, and like
Speaker 2: climbed up it. Because it's true, Like I know, my
Speaker 2: dog's not gonna bite you, but like you really are
Speaker 2: in harm's way.
Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't know. And if you come out and
Speaker 1: the FedEx drivers out there kicking your dog, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be like, what's going on here, buddy, it's a tough
Speaker 1: situation abusing my dog. But he's like, well, your dog
Speaker 1: was trying to bite me, and you're like, sugar, Sugar
Speaker 1: wouldn't bite anyone.
Speaker 2: Right, have you been bit?
Speaker 1: I don't think I've been bit. I mean not as an.
Speaker 2: Adult blacked out you can't remember.
Speaker 1: Well I did used to drink a lot, so who knows.
Speaker 1: But but dogs, I don't know. They're just you know people.
Speaker 1: I don't think people really understand their dogs these days.
Speaker 2: Okay, tell me why, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a story. Tell me I want to hear.
Speaker 2: I want to hear a story. Horrific though, Is it
Speaker 2: about you?
Speaker 1: It's not about me? But my I got a relative,
Speaker 1: it's his step mom.
Speaker 2: I'm close to your mouth. Okay, sorry, I'm a little
Speaker 2: old old school back here. Let's hear you.
Speaker 1: It's pretty horrific. The story, though, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want to hear it.
Speaker 2: Did somebody die?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a kid, No, not a kid.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank god.
Speaker 1: I like telling the story.
Speaker 2: Well, then let's hear it does.
Speaker 1: It's pretty horrific though. This my I don't want to
Speaker 1: say who, but but a relative, his step mom lived
Speaker 1: next to these people that had these Cane corso dogs.
Speaker 1: They're like you would have to look up a picture
Speaker 1: of these dogs. They're huge dogs. And this guy had
Speaker 1: two of them, and he was out of town. He
Speaker 1: had his mom house sitting. So my relative's step mom
Speaker 1: goes over to their house to see the mom and
Speaker 1: goes to give her a hug. The dogs get out
Speaker 1: of the cage and attack this woman and kill this
Speaker 1: woman and her husband. I had to come over and
Speaker 1: shoot the.
Speaker 2: Dogs after his wife had died.
Speaker 1: Well she wasn't dead yet, to get them off of her.
Speaker 1: And then she went to the hospital and she died
Speaker 1: in the hospital. It's it happened in Alabama. You can
Speaker 1: look up the story. It's out there. It's horrific. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, people like the King Corseo is probably
Speaker 1: great with the owner, right, they're best friends, the sweetest dogs,
Speaker 1: I bet, but they're just so strong that if they
Speaker 1: do attack, there's like nothing you can do. I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is the best way to start the podcast.
Speaker 1: Maybe you edit it, add this in towards the middle
Speaker 1: or end. Because I'm a comedian and I've come in
Speaker 1: with like just the most horrific story with no jokes
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 2: And just like, do you have a pressure to always
Speaker 2: sell a joke?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's like, I don't feel the pressure.
Speaker 1: I'm actually pretty serious.
Speaker 2: I think you are.
Speaker 1: I think so. I think my voice helps me sound funny.
Speaker 2: Is that your real voice or have you worked on
Speaker 2: this voice?
Speaker 1: No, this is my I mean I smoked for a
Speaker 1: long time, so it might have added some rasps.
Speaker 2: It's a great voice though, thank you, yeah.
Speaker 1: Thank you. And well, you know, me and my wife
Speaker 1: we dated long distance for a little while. She's from Canada,
Speaker 1: so while she was working on a visa. So she
Speaker 1: always says that this voice kept that relationship going because
Speaker 1: we would talk on the phone a lot.
Speaker 2: Is it, Yeah, it's just a it's a good voice
Speaker 2: for your phone voice, right, So have you used it
Speaker 2: for other things on the phone?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, you know, I'm yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: really into I don't know your traditional.
Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, I like that about you. Dusty.
Speaker 1: I mean I could text some stuff, I think, but
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, I'm not much. I'm more I
Speaker 1: could be more of a dirty Texter than a dirty.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's easier to text than talk, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 2: I think it's way easier to text.
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of dudes like that,
Speaker 1: sadly that they've only done online dating. Yeah, so they're
Speaker 1: really good Texters and then when they meet up with
Speaker 1: the girl, they don't know.
Speaker 2: What to do exactly.
Speaker 1: I had to go grow up in an era where
Speaker 1: you like had to talk to people.
Speaker 2: I know, I was offloaded. I would ignore everyone. I
Speaker 2: was mean. My talking was being mean back in the day.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know if you did that. But
Speaker 2: if like you wanted to talk to someone, I'm going
Speaker 2: to be an extra big dick to you.
Speaker 1: No, I did. I do know. That's a thing that
Speaker 1: women do.
Speaker 2: It's a protective mechanics.
Speaker 1: I wish I knew that back then, because like, there
Speaker 1: were probably a lot of opportunities for me.
Speaker 2: But he thought they hated you. Yeah, I know, but really,
Speaker 2: the tests you're supposed to push through, I know you're
Speaker 2: supposed to show me you don't care that they're a
Speaker 2: raging bitch.
Speaker 1: I know, I know you are supposed to, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know back then. I had did a lot of
Speaker 1: growing up to do.
Speaker 2: I know, if we only knew now, I knew then, right, I.
Speaker 1: Know I was weak with it as a kid. I
Speaker 1: had to I had to learn things.
Speaker 2: Were you were you good at dating?
Speaker 1: I think I became a good dater.
Speaker 2: Okay, how did you become one?
Speaker 1: Well? I actually worked with this guy who was an
Speaker 1: older guy.
Speaker 2: He taught you everything, I.
Speaker 1: Think, so yeah, yeah, he was an older guy. He
Speaker 1: was like at late sixties and he used to play
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He played for the Buffalo was like
Speaker 1: way back.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you had like he had. He had game
Speaker 2: for sure, and he just.
Speaker 1: He had like he looked like Billy Graham a little bit.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: We had big chin, like slick back, kind of gray hair.
Speaker 1: Ok And we would just you know, we would do
Speaker 1: a little work and then we would go sit in
Speaker 1: this truck and he would chain smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 2: You love smoking and being around people would smoke. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it makes you feel safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You would just talk to me about.
Speaker 2: He would give me some insights.
Speaker 1: We would just ask me things about what was going
Speaker 1: on in my life, and I was forced to like
Speaker 1: have a conversation with a one on one conversation with
Speaker 1: a grown man. That intimidated me.
Speaker 2: Okay, so when you were talking about your dating life,
Speaker 2: what would he like say, like, what was his like
Speaker 2: pieces of advice?
Speaker 1: He was just like almost disgusted at my you know,
Speaker 1: the tactics of the day, you know, just like you know,
Speaker 1: like things like you know, you meet someone and then
Speaker 1: you wait a couple of days to call, and then
Speaker 1: you just all this beating around the book.
Speaker 2: It takes forever, draws it out and really, so what
Speaker 2: is he saying? Just get right to it?
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, but yeah, be more direct.
Speaker 1: Just be direct about what you want and if they're
Speaker 1: not into it, just move on.
Speaker 2: I know. But when you find the one that you
Speaker 2: think is so cool, especially in a small town, it's like,
Speaker 2: who do you move on to?
Speaker 1: Well, that's right, but I was, you know, I had moved.
Speaker 1: I was living in Charleston, South Care, so there was.
Speaker 2: You had a bigger thing.
Speaker 1: It was more like, but yeah, when you're in a
Speaker 1: small town, it's kind of like the dating is like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've been knowing you since I was a kid, let's
Speaker 1: hang out, you know what I mean. So it was
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to date because I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, come over to the party, and.
Speaker 2: Then would you just kind of friends friends on it,
Speaker 2: or would you like put this was my move.
Speaker 1: If they were at my house and they were sitting
Speaker 1: over there, I go, I go, why are you sitting
Speaker 1: way over there? And then if they moved, then you
Speaker 1: got okay.
Speaker 2: But if they didn't move, well, then you know you
Speaker 2: were supposed to pursue.
Speaker 1: It was, you know, the move work more often than
Speaker 1: you would say.
Speaker 2: You weren't laid back guy about it. You weren't like
Speaker 2: pressing forward.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess outwardly I was laid back right right. Internally,
Speaker 1: there's probably a lot going on.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: You know you're like, oh, well, you know I told
Speaker 1: that to my friend. He loved that. I used to
Speaker 1: That was my move, Why you're sitting way over there?
Speaker 1: It worked a lot of times.
Speaker 2: Is that how you got your wife?
Speaker 1: No, my wife used to do comedy.
Speaker 2: Well, I snooped for Instagram and she's funny too. What
Speaker 2: is like two comics of one house?
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny. Most of the time. We have two kids.
Speaker 1: Now we have a four year old and a two
Speaker 1: year old, so you know, it gets stressful.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I had three kids a day. I normally
Speaker 2: have one. And I was like, this is why people
Speaker 2: don't gentle parent. Yeah, you can't. When you get like
Speaker 2: out numbered, your brain literally explodes.
Speaker 1: No, we're stressed. I yelled at my son the other day.
Speaker 1: He's too Yeah, and I later I go. I asked
Speaker 1: my wife her, go, you mad at me? And she
Speaker 1: was like, why I go because I yelled at you know,
Speaker 1: our son, and she goes, I yell at the kids
Speaker 1: all the time. She goes, I think I've ruined my
Speaker 1: relationship with our daughter yelling at her. But it's like,
Speaker 1: you don't mean to yell, but you're like, it's like,
Speaker 1: what else do you do? It's like, you know, you
Speaker 1: can give a spanking whench You know, we do do that.
Speaker 1: We're not into it, we don't like it, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: we do do it because it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's yelling and then there's spanking. What
Speaker 1: else is there? They'll go sit in the corner thing.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I had three today. And I was like,
Speaker 2: literally love all of them. They're great kids, amazing, but
Speaker 2: all together my brain was fully exploding and I was like,
Speaker 2: you do what I say because I said it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't really say that, but in my head, well,
Speaker 2: my you know.
Speaker 1: My son's at the table the other day, he's eating,
Speaker 1: he's he has this piece of watermelon. He throws it
Speaker 1: on the floor and we go, don't throw your food
Speaker 1: on the floor, and then he makes eye contact with
Speaker 1: us and throws more food on the floor, and it's like,
Speaker 1: what do you do do you? You know, you can't
Speaker 1: let the kid run you.
Speaker 2: I know, I know. So I have an only child.
Speaker 2: So an only child, there is like a caveat because
Speaker 2: you can kind of go over and you can be like, hey,
Speaker 2: don't do that because and you have like the patient
Speaker 2: to explain and there's no other kid to like feel
Speaker 2: it on. So like I feel like I've been able
Speaker 2: to talk better with her, But like, I don't think
Speaker 2: you can do it when you have more than one kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I found if you give one spanking and the
Speaker 1: other kid sees, then you can ride.
Speaker 2: That out for a while because there's a fear fact.
Speaker 1: You can go hey, you know, we're doing spanking. We
Speaker 1: do this, we're doing spankings.
Speaker 2: Again, they're not out ruled, they're not out there, still here,
Speaker 2: they have not left.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you rotate them so you don't have
Speaker 1: to do it a lot and you don't want you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's a quick thing. It's only to inflict
Speaker 1: the slightest amount of pain just to go, Hey, your
Speaker 1: bad behavior is a you know, you associate that with
Speaker 1: this pain, and you go, I don't want that, So
Speaker 1: maybe I'll listen to what my dad says.
Speaker 2: I know it only sent me to therapy for my
Speaker 2: whole adult life, but I think it's totally funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I don't think I got spanked enough. And
Speaker 1: you know, I could probably use therapy too, that's what
Speaker 1: my wife tells me.
Speaker 3: You don't do therapy.
Speaker 2: Oh no, really, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't want a stranger to know all my problems.
Speaker 2: Well who knows all your problems?
Speaker 1: I don't know unless I turn them into jokes.
Speaker 2: No, is that how you're outlet?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you just keep it all inside?
Speaker 1: I think so?
Speaker 2: Have you started at your beginning of the beginning childhood trauma?
Speaker 1: Well, I think I try to deal with it on
Speaker 1: my own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, because you make it into jokes, so your
Speaker 2: jokes are funny though you talk about them. And also
Speaker 2: we'll get back to your wife because I sidetracked. I'm
Speaker 2: so excited to talk to you, Dusty, I like splatter
Speaker 2: my thoughts, but I want to know about your wife.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna come back. But you were born in
Speaker 2: a trailer park and you grew up with a lot
Speaker 2: of cigarette smoke. I know that. Yeah, because you love
Speaker 2: a cigarette.
Speaker 1: I do. I don't smoke anymore. I do smoke cigars.
Speaker 1: Even though I'm on a two week break.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna why are you going a break?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I do it too much, and I.
Speaker 2: Think it are you trying to break up with things?
Speaker 2: That's what my husband says. He's like, I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to find something else to break up with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I love cigars, but I just
Speaker 1: I feel like I just was doing it too much.
Speaker 1: Like it's like I go, I can go, like all right,
Speaker 1: I only do it after shows. I'll do it two
Speaker 1: or three times a week, and then it becomes slowly
Speaker 1: every night of the week, and then I start slipping
Speaker 1: in daytime cigars, and then I gotta scale it back.
Speaker 1: I gotta go, let's take a break, and let's get
Speaker 1: back to only after comedy shows. And I have a
Speaker 1: show tonight, so I think I'll probably end up breaking
Speaker 1: the cigar thing.
Speaker 2: Where's your show at Zanne's? Zadi? Is there anywhere else
Speaker 2: to do shows but Zani's in Nashville.
Speaker 1: There are other shows, but Zany's is the only club
Speaker 1: and the best club.
Speaker 2: And your face is on the wall it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that feels good.
Speaker 1: Zanie's has two clubs now side by side, so we
Speaker 1: have two rooms. And then I also do comedy at
Speaker 1: the Opry.
Speaker 2: And then forty times.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I've probably about that many times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have to scale back your jokes at
Speaker 2: the Opry to make sure they're like blue haired friendly
Speaker 2: because you know there's gonna be a bunch of older
Speaker 2: people at the opera.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean there's certain jokes I won't do,
Speaker 1: but the you know, the Opry's cool with me. They
Speaker 1: like me, and I'll just go Can you push it.
Speaker 2: A little bit because there's such a respect thing with
Speaker 2: the Opry.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm pretty clean as it is. I like that
Speaker 1: about you, But I'll ask them. I had a joke
Speaker 1: where I was talking about the you know, Brooks and Song.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been done The working Man. What's
Speaker 1: it called Workingman? I don't know, hard working, hard working man.
Speaker 1: It's on my special that's coming out July twenty on Netflix. Netflix.
Speaker 2: Is this your second one? Yeah, you're so cool. I
Speaker 2: mean a Netflix special that's a big dealing. The whole
Speaker 2: world can watch it if they want to. I know,
Speaker 2: you're just like on everyone's TV.
Speaker 1: I know, it's pretty amazing. I feel like, I don't
Speaker 1: mean it's amazing, like look at what I've done. I
Speaker 1: mean it's amazing, Like I can't believe it's happened.
Speaker 2: A lot of comics don't get a special. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: you've gotten too. That's true, So you're very good.
Speaker 1: I funded these specials myself, right. The first one was
Speaker 1: really a big deal because I was like, it cost
Speaker 1: a lot to have people come and film things.
Speaker 2: Do you know that it's gonna make it to Netflix when.
Speaker 1: You do it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I no either special. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: So you're just hoping that it's gonna make it to Netflix.
Speaker 1: A minut'es like you might end up on YouTube which
Speaker 1: is fine. I have stuff on YouTube that does very well,
Speaker 1: but on Netflix. Yeah, the amount of money that it
Speaker 1: takes to film.
Speaker 2: These things, how much money?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't even want to say.
Speaker 2: Okay, a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too much. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: You're but worth it when it makes it a good gamble,
Speaker 2: but you got a gamble.
Speaker 1: It It is worth it when it makes it. But
Speaker 1: if it goes to YouTube, it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you could make the money back, but it would need
Speaker 1: a lot of views.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you get much more famous every
Speaker 2: time you have a special one?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, this is my second one. So
Speaker 1: I did go from clubs to theaters with the first one.
Speaker 2: That feels nice.
Speaker 1: So now I'm trying to get to like two thousand
Speaker 1: seat theaters.
Speaker 2: That's this is just like an artist fine the same way.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, comedy and music are so much the same,
Speaker 1: except for I travel alone.
Speaker 2: Is that depressing?
Speaker 1: It's I guess it can be, but it's also awesome.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have to hang out with a
Speaker 1: ton of people all the time.
Speaker 2: Are you kind of an introvert?
Speaker 1: I think so. I never thought of myself like that,
Speaker 1: but now that I do comedy and I get to
Speaker 1: go out and you know, do this comedy for hundreds
Speaker 1: of people, sometimes thousands. I yeah, like want to not
Speaker 1: talk to people? Yeah, you know, I mean you you
Speaker 1: know you do. I do a lot of podcasts and
Speaker 1: I like doing them. But yeah, you just I'm just
Speaker 1: talking all the time, all the time.
Speaker 2: It's like exhausting, right.
Speaker 1: And if I'm if I travel alone, you know, I
Speaker 1: walk through the airport with headphones on, I just listen
Speaker 1: to music. It's great. And then but if I travel
Speaker 1: with someone, We're talking the whole time, right, And then
Speaker 1: you never stop talking, right, You talk and talk and talk,
Speaker 1: and then you get to the you get to the venue,
Speaker 1: and then you go to comedy and then after you
Speaker 1: go have cigars.
Speaker 2: And you can't be in a bad mood either, you know,
Speaker 2: like you have to be nice to people. Not that
Speaker 2: like I'm trying to be in a bad mood, but
Speaker 2: like people are like wanting you to talk, and they're
Speaker 2: wanting you to be funny, and they're wanting you to
Speaker 2: like engage with them all the time, and you if
Speaker 2: you don't, then they're gonna think you're an asshole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And I get recognized because I got
Speaker 1: a pretty recognizable look. Yeah, but sometimes you know, I
Speaker 1: like wearing a hat, right, So it's like I don't
Speaker 1: want to not wear a hat just because I don't
Speaker 1: want people to recognize me. But I used to, especially
Speaker 1: on Sundays on like the on the on the way home,
Speaker 1: I would take edibles and just you know, just relax and.
Speaker 2: Really on the airplane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the airplane, I'm walking through the airport and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, I'm just in the zone. But
Speaker 1: now people come up and talk to me, and I
Speaker 1: feel like, I I feel like I seem so stupid
Speaker 1: when people come up and talk to me because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm all, I'm all zoned out.
Speaker 2: Are you on an edible stiff?
Speaker 1: I still like to do them. I mean I don't
Speaker 1: do them when I do comedy, but it's on the
Speaker 1: way home.
Speaker 2: Have you have you ever done comedy? Stone? No?
Speaker 1: Maybe like an open mic.
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't like it? No, No, you're risky.
Speaker 1: It's just like you can't trust weed.
Speaker 2: Oh, like what might happen?
Speaker 1: Well, it's like one time you do weed and you're
Speaker 1: like all fun and everything. You're so you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm having a good time here and and everybody's laughing,
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm such a great mood. I feel good.
Speaker 1: And then another time you're like, I can't believe that
Speaker 1: I even do comedy.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So insane and you need so strong. It's like one
Speaker 1: I did. I was in Portland, Maine, and I bought
Speaker 1: some weed at a dispensary. I bought a pre roll joint.
Speaker 1: I did one hit out on a park bench and
Speaker 1: I was gonna smoke a cigar and I was so
Speaker 1: high out there. I was like, I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't need to be outside. I don't think I could
Speaker 1: smoke the cigar, but I don't need to go in
Speaker 1: my hotel room and be alone right now. I need something.
Speaker 1: And then my wife called and I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: Good, she knew I need She could feel it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, because I tell my wife, I go,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I thought I was having a heart attack
Speaker 1: in the hotel last night. And then she goes, were
Speaker 1: you on edibles? I go yeah. She goes, oh, okay, well,
Speaker 1: and then she's not worried about it. Right, stuff happens
Speaker 1: to me with edibles. I was you keep going I know.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was convinced. I was had
Speaker 1: like a like a pain, like a pressure right here,
Speaker 1: and I convinced myself my gallbladder was gonna explode.
Speaker 2: Why gallbladder.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what this is. I don't even
Speaker 1: know it.
Speaker 2: Your mid chest, Yeah, I think your robber is a lawyer,
Speaker 2: but okay, goble.
Speaker 1: And I just I was in La. I was doing
Speaker 1: the Netflix as a Joke Comedy festival, and I had
Speaker 1: a night off, so I just did a little edible,
Speaker 1: just was in my hotel room and then but all
Speaker 1: the other people were staying at this hotel and I
Speaker 1: was like I felt trapped in there because I was
Speaker 1: like I don't want to leave and run into other
Speaker 1: people to talk.
Speaker 2: So you don't like to be around people on an edible.
Speaker 1: No, not really just my friends. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid I'll run into somebody and they'll go, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to come do this podcast? You know?
Speaker 1: So I was like I got to stay in here.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, am I going to
Speaker 1: go to the emergency room in La?
Speaker 2: So you're one of those cases that thinks they're dying by.
Speaker 1: Weed sometimes and I started like burping, and then it
Speaker 1: started to feel better, and I was like, oh good,
Speaker 1: it's so insane. But the Opry I was going to say, Yes,
Speaker 1: there was a joke where I wanted to say prostitute, right,
Speaker 1: So I asked him at the Opry, I go, can
Speaker 1: I say prostitute?
Speaker 2: Can we hear the joke?
Speaker 1: Well, it's a longer joke, but I I just talk
Speaker 1: about the hard working man song by he's.
Speaker 2: A steel hard hat or.
Speaker 1: A steel hard hat, Yeah, and then I just kind
Speaker 1: of break that song down. Yeah, But basically in the song,
Speaker 1: he's kind of telling you that he works so hard,
Speaker 1: but yet he can't he can't understand where all his
Speaker 1: money's going. And then he says, you know, come Friday night,
Speaker 1: I like to party hard. I like to carry on
Speaker 1: with the Cadillac Cuties, spend my whole week's pay on
Speaker 1: some weekend beauty.
Speaker 2: And does that mean prostitute?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I never knew that.
Speaker 1: There you're spending everything you make and one night on
Speaker 1: some sort of a prostitute here, and that it's a
Speaker 1: longer joke.
Speaker 2: Did it go over well?
Speaker 1: It was great. The Opry loves things to be a touch.
Speaker 2: Dirty okay a little. How do you have your meter,
Speaker 2: because I'm going to tell you something, dusty. I don't
Speaker 2: like the heavy meter of vulgar, like if if someone
Speaker 2: is too vulgar. I went and saw somebody I don't
Speaker 2: even know who. It was a big comedian because we
Speaker 2: were like at a big venue and I was just
Speaker 2: like everything was like making fun of someone or super
Speaker 2: vulgar or incredibly sexual, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, I am so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: But I'm also like I'm just not good at laughing
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But people were dying.
Speaker 1: I know, people like you.
Speaker 2: Are so funny. You and I can never say it's
Speaker 2: correct name Nate Gargets Nate Bergazi.
Speaker 1: Well, I've been told that I've been saying it wrong.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's Bargetzi. I do a podcast with him. I
Speaker 1: know wrong for years. Apparently it's Barghetzi, Barghetsi. Bargatzi is
Speaker 1: how it's spelled.
Speaker 2: Bargatzi. Yeah, but you two run together, and I love
Speaker 2: y'all style and ver but I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I you know, I feel like I get
Speaker 1: a little dirtier, but I like to me, I like
Speaker 1: I always describe it like you're like the edgy guy
Speaker 1: in church, right right, it's not so bad that they're like,
Speaker 1: I don't want that guy around anymore.
Speaker 2: You like rode up in a motorcycle and you were
Speaker 2: smoking cigarette on the way in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're saying the stuff totally nobody else will say.
Speaker 1: But it's not too.
Speaker 2: Fall, but everyone's definitely thinking it.
Speaker 1: You're like you're making fun of grandma a little bit.
Speaker 2: But everyone's still laughing. Yeaeah, okay, So you so if
Speaker 2: this if vulgar, vulgar's ten and then like nothing is zero?
Speaker 2: Where are you?
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe a three.
Speaker 2: I like that about you, though, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like doing that I used to do. I
Speaker 1: got some jokes that are a little dirtier here and there.
Speaker 1: I got some jokes I'm working on now where I'm
Speaker 1: like making fun of all these It feels like all
Speaker 1: these stores and stuff or like like Dick Sporting Goods,
Speaker 1: It's like, why we calling it?
Speaker 2: That's actually no, I'm with you. There's more stores like
Speaker 2: that too, Yeah, you probably know them.
Speaker 1: Well. There's Bej's. There's a lot of initials guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's I mean out in Myrtle Beach. They love
Speaker 1: to name the restaurants. You know, there's also there's Dick's
Speaker 1: Last Resort, and then they like a crab shack loves
Speaker 1: to play into crabs. There was a place I'm not
Speaker 1: making this up. This is North Myrtle Beach. This is
Speaker 1: a restaurant right off. It's called Dirty Dick's Crab House.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, geez, guys, let's let's relax a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, is it?
Speaker 3: That's funny?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so it's like a little dirty because I'm
Speaker 1: saying all these things. But like there's other stuff where
Speaker 1: like like these like kind of like American Mexican restaurants.
Speaker 1: They love to like play like you know, uh you know,
Speaker 1: like they're like what do they say, like suck the tequila,
Speaker 1: suck the lime. Uh you know, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: like suck and lick and and I'm like, guys, there's
Speaker 1: kids in here. You know. It's like we're just we
Speaker 1: can handle, you know, we can drink and eat you know,
Speaker 1: tacos without all this.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: And the host was wearing this shirt. It was like,
Speaker 1: I forget the whole thing, but it was like suck
Speaker 1: lick and blow. But it was like those words were
Speaker 1: real big, and then the little font was like tequila
Speaker 1: lawn salt, and it's like okay, break. Yeah, It's like
Speaker 1: at least Hooters back in the day, Hooters was like
Speaker 1: you knew what Hooters was, right. They weren't pretending to
Speaker 1: be something else. They were like, this is what's going
Speaker 1: on in here?
Speaker 2: I mean they needed Hooters for boobs, right, Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: that obvious, correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they try to put an owl in
Speaker 1: the logo, right, we know what's going right, they got
Speaker 1: a calendar. They're really putting it out there. This is
Speaker 1: what we're doing. They weren't trying to lure the kids
Speaker 1: in no, no.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I went as a kid, of course, but I grew
Speaker 1: up in a trailer. My mom was a big fan
Speaker 1: of Alan Kolwiki, the NASCAR driver that drove the Hooters call.
Speaker 2: Did that shape your life growing up going to Hooters
Speaker 2: all the time and living in a trailer with people
Speaker 2: like oh, well, that just let you know, because you
Speaker 2: said you used to tell adult jokes all the time
Speaker 2: and people would laugh at you and you didn't know
Speaker 2: what you were saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there was a joke. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just I did Tracy Lawrence's podcast and I told some
Speaker 1: of this joke. But it's like, yeah, there was a
Speaker 1: joke that you would tell. And it was like he
Speaker 1: was like a kid. He took a shower with his
Speaker 1: mom and he was like looked up and he goes,
Speaker 1: what are those? And she's like them are my headlights?
Speaker 1: And then he's like what's that? She goes, then are
Speaker 1: my gates? And then he took a shower with his
Speaker 1: dad and he's like what is that? And he goes,
Speaker 1: that's my Z twenty eight, you know. And then like
Speaker 1: the mom's in bed one night and the dad's coming
Speaker 1: in and the kid goes, better turn on your head lights,
Speaker 1: better open your gates, because here comes daddy with a
Speaker 1: Z twenty eight. Right, And that's a stupid joke.
Speaker 2: That's terrible.
Speaker 1: But I'm a little kid, and my older cousins told
Speaker 1: me this joke. Yeah, and I used to tell this
Speaker 1: to people all the time. Yeah, and adults loved it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they would go, you shouldn't be telling stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but right after they got done laughing.
Speaker 2: So did you always know you're funny? Is that what
Speaker 2: started it?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think I like I was around
Speaker 1: funny people. My mom's funny, my dad's funny.
Speaker 2: You like your parents.
Speaker 1: I like them. They're not married, but I do like them.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like them. We get along, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we I fight well, my dad at a bit,
Speaker 1: but we get along. We're very similar, I think. So
Speaker 1: we can't be around each other too long. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: if anything comes up that we disagree on, nobody we
Speaker 1: neither will budge.
Speaker 2: Really, so, y'all are both real stubborn. Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: feel like.
Speaker 1: I'm always right when it comes to these. I think
Speaker 1: my dad thinks he's always right. Yeah, and so I'm like,
Speaker 1: I go, I always go. I don't want to argue
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 2: But getting hot inside and stand offish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean. We yelled at each other on Christmas,
Speaker 1: you know, long ago, Okay, you know so, and then
Speaker 1: we we got some family photos that we took, and
Speaker 1: we did that right after we got done yelling at
Speaker 1: each other. They look good, But you know what's you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, almost every family picture a fight has gone
Speaker 1: down with someone right before it's taken.
Speaker 2: That's the magic of a family photo. You really actually
Speaker 2: knew what was going on behind that picture. At every
Speaker 2: family photo.
Speaker 1: We too, going at the waffle House and Hermitage, we
Speaker 1: all went eight and then we forgot to get a photo.
Speaker 1: So my dad was like, let's find somebody to get her.
Speaker 2: That's a good spot.
Speaker 1: And then we couldn't find anyone and then we finally
Speaker 1: found a guy. But we fought in between.
Speaker 2: You and your dad and found y'all fought at the
Speaker 2: waffle house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody was fighting. We were outside. We actually found
Speaker 1: a nice spot that was kind of on some limestone,
Speaker 1: so you don't really know. It's in a wane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that might have been cooler.
Speaker 1: That would have been cooler probably, yeah, next time, next time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the yeah, so yeah, so there's a lot of
Speaker 1: family photos where oh we all know how to smile. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just did throw it up. And actually, I don't
Speaker 1: even know if we're that mad.
Speaker 2: We're just is it just like a habit, it's just
Speaker 2: you'll thing, I think, so, like it's just how y'all
Speaker 2: communicate and show love, because you can't get mad at
Speaker 2: somebody if you don't love them.
Speaker 1: I guess that's so maybe that's just I love it
Speaker 1: is that that's our thing.
Speaker 2: That's how you say I love your dad?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then yeah, and so I get along with
Speaker 1: all my family. I think a lot of my family
Speaker 1: liked it better when I drank because I was more fun.
Speaker 2: You were a fine drunk. Yeah, I was lou Okay.
Speaker 1: Now I'm more serious okay than I used to be
Speaker 1: when I was drinking all the time.
Speaker 2: How have you found an outlet?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: How do you did you feel like you had to
Speaker 2: find your personality again? Was it like what was the
Speaker 2: transition period?
Speaker 1: Like they say people say this that if you get
Speaker 1: wasted all the time that you stop maturing.
Speaker 2: I believe that.
Speaker 1: And then when you get sober, you're like rapidly mature.
Speaker 2: Because you have so much. It's just like catching up
Speaker 2: at lightning experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I started. I mean I started drinking probably seventeen,
Speaker 1: which is really late for a kid in Alabama.
Speaker 2: And a Tuler park.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I held out. But you know, at twenty
Speaker 1: one though, I really got into it because I know
Speaker 1: I was always looked real young, so I couldn't get
Speaker 1: into bars. I never was. I never wanted to sneak
Speaker 1: into a bar, but we would drink. But once I
Speaker 1: had the access to the bar, I was like, this
Speaker 1: is great. This is what I've been missing. Uh huh,
Speaker 1: just going to a place where people were at and
Speaker 1: you just hanging, You're just drinking and just being fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I blocked out. I was a black out drinker.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I would be in the ball I would make
Speaker 1: friends with everybody.
Speaker 2: In there where you didn't know you were making friends.
Speaker 1: No, no, we were. This is what would happened to me.
Speaker 1: I would make friends with everybody. We'd have a good time,
Speaker 1: everything's great, and then I would go one shot too
Speaker 1: far and then and then my eyes would get all
Speaker 1: glossy and it would be like that. You know, you
Speaker 1: could make eye contact with me, but there's a emptiness
Speaker 1: in there. I think it's referred to as hollow eyed
Speaker 1: in country music. Okay, and that's when and then suddenly
Speaker 1: I would lose all those friends that I just made.
Speaker 1: I would get mad at people, and it was a
Speaker 1: real darkness in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but you have you have you? Why'd you stop?
Speaker 2: Did you figure out why you were getting?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: I just started to feel real bad. I was just
Speaker 1: gained in a lot of weight because I was eating
Speaker 1: real bad all the time, and I just felt bad
Speaker 1: and I wanted to like take a break, and then
Speaker 1: I just started feeling so good that I was like,
Speaker 1: this is great. Yeah, and I'm like why and then
Speaker 1: I remember, I mean, it's so far in the now,
Speaker 1: but I remember, you know, I remember when I hit
Speaker 1: a month of no drinking, I was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: this is pretty great. And then I hit two months,
Speaker 1: which I had never done. I had taken a month
Speaker 1: break here and there. I wrecked a car one time
Speaker 1: and took a month. I got beat up real bad
Speaker 1: one time and took a month off.
Speaker 2: Gosh, beat up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was fine. I was you know, I
Speaker 1: was a real mouth I mean I should have been
Speaker 1: killed because I was so mouthy. I would get I
Speaker 1: would get myself in all kinds of situations. But I'm
Speaker 1: a good talker, so I think most times I was
Speaker 1: a talker enough to make someone not want to find Okay,
Speaker 1: they were I'm I think maybe they were unsure about
Speaker 1: what would happen. But I got jumped by a few guys.
Speaker 1: I mean I was probably twenty two or twenty three.
Speaker 2: So you're just letting it fly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I got both my eyes were swollen, shunk,
Speaker 1: but I never bled, and there was no broken bones,
Speaker 1: and so I felt pretty good about it.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty solid I think, so pretty strong.
Speaker 1: No scars.
Speaker 2: Yeah I get you now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like I got beat up, but not
Speaker 1: a big deal.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I used to have pictures, but I had them on
Speaker 1: a hard drive and the hard drive broke.
Speaker 2: It's another gone, and I think.
Speaker 1: I think maybe it's good. I think I had that
Speaker 1: whole phase of my life in a hard drive and
Speaker 1: it's locked away.
Speaker 2: Can you believe that?
Speaker 1: I know, it's pretty wild.
Speaker 2: So when so, have you been in a new face since?
Speaker 2: Did you like reinvent yourself or like what happened when
Speaker 2: you decided to close that chapter?
Speaker 1: Well, when I I was already doing comedy. But when
Speaker 1: I quit drinking, I quit drinking at twenty nine, but
Speaker 1: I was almost thirty, So basically my twenties I drank
Speaker 1: the whole time.
Speaker 2: So you only drank for like a little like ten years,
Speaker 2: like ten years, yeah, okay, not all you needed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I drank enough. I mean I lived
Speaker 1: in Charleston, South Carolina. I don't know if you've been,
Speaker 1: but it's a yeah, it's a beautiful place. I lived
Speaker 1: on the beach for a while. I lived downtown. It's
Speaker 1: just like you know, day drink. I love the day drink.
Speaker 1: I love to go out to happy hour with a
Speaker 1: with the window open and a and a sea breeze blowing.
Speaker 2: In while also a romantic sounding.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm eating shrimp, cocktails, hot wings and uh
Speaker 1: you know, raw oysters and drinking margarita.
Speaker 2: It's just oh yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Yeah yeah, and then wrecking my bike on
Speaker 1: the way home or something like that, you know, in
Speaker 1: front of some tourists just trying to enjoy their life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, here's some guy in his work uniform with
Speaker 1: a bunch of cocktail saucepilled on it. You know that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. You know, because I worked at a
Speaker 1: seafood restaurant for a while. Uh and so a place
Speaker 1: called Hyman Seafood is what it was called. And uh,
Speaker 1: but I worked there for a long time. It's great.
Speaker 1: They got my picture on the wall in there.
Speaker 2: You got your picture on your wall in a lot
Speaker 2: of places.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I encourage it.
Speaker 2: Does it make you feel like you kind of like
Speaker 2: have ownership and that place?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, make it feels good to know that
Speaker 1: people love you, like Yeah, yeah, I got I went
Speaker 1: to my hometown of oap like Alabama this past year
Speaker 1: was the grand marshal of the Christmas Parade, and I
Speaker 1: got a key to the city.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: So that's good. Yeah, it feels great. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: you know, even some of my high school friends saw
Speaker 1: me at the parade and they go, they were like
Speaker 1: so surprised. They were like, not that, not that I'm
Speaker 1: doing well, but they were like, did you ever think
Speaker 1: you would be getting this? Because you know, I was
Speaker 1: getting into you know, I was getting into some stuff.
Speaker 2: So you could have gone a lot of different directions.
Speaker 1: Oh So, I mean, like, it's wild how you can
Speaker 1: look at your life and just go, man, this could
Speaker 1: have gone a lot of ways. Yeah. Uh, even just
Speaker 1: like a regular way, Like I was a pesticide salesman
Speaker 1: and I was doing that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I saw you talk about that.
Speaker 1: I had a salary position. I always make fun of
Speaker 1: the job, but I had a salary and I had
Speaker 1: a car allowance.
Speaker 2: And heck y'all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was that awesome. Yes, it was a
Speaker 1: good job. Yeah, and I could have just did that.
Speaker 2: Why'd you stop?
Speaker 1: Well, I just you know, wanted to do other things.
Speaker 2: You want to do comedy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was already like doing comedy and I on
Speaker 1: comedy contest in Charleston.
Speaker 2: Okay, were you just kind of like trying it on
Speaker 2: or were you like kind of being professional at that time?
Speaker 1: Well? No, I was just it was just something to do.
Speaker 1: It's like it's a way to meet people. You're doing.
Speaker 1: You go to a bar, you drink with your buddies,
Speaker 1: and then we all do comedy and you know, you
Speaker 1: just keep.
Speaker 2: Drinking and then you kind of started getting good at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I started getting good. Then I went
Speaker 1: a contest and I was like, oh, maybe I could
Speaker 1: make something out of this. So I won a contest
Speaker 1: in late twenty eleven, and then in January of twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: I quit drinking. So and then I got way better
Speaker 1: at comedy in that number, Like, okay, better almost right away.
Speaker 2: Why do you think?
Speaker 1: I just think that I was more focused. I had
Speaker 1: more time to do things, because when you when you're
Speaker 1: drinking in a fun city, it doesn't even seem sad
Speaker 1: that you're doing this. Yeah, you're like, yeah, I can
Speaker 1: walk down to the bar. I can walk down to
Speaker 1: the bar alone into a bar filled with people I
Speaker 1: know yeah, and just we can drink it have a
Speaker 1: good time in as everything I've described, or even there
Speaker 1: was a bar called Big Johns, which was a dark,
Speaker 1: dingy bar where we used to smoke cigarettes. Yeah, even that.
Speaker 1: It was fun in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I do.
Speaker 1: They were doing karaoke, and but you.
Speaker 2: Can't get stuck there. If you get stuck at Big John's,
Speaker 2: there comes a point where you got to phase out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because you see the people who've been at Big John's too.
Speaker 1: Long, and you're like, and I I was always, you know,
Speaker 1: when I was drinking, I was always a little poetic.
Speaker 1: I like to, you know, I like to I would
Speaker 1: get you know, this was before social media and I
Speaker 1: had I would write in notebooks. I write jokes. But
Speaker 1: then sometimes if I got too drunk, I would I
Speaker 1: would write little poems, or I would write messages to
Speaker 1: myself to remember to be mad at certain people.
Speaker 2: Do not forget.
Speaker 1: But I wrote on the bathroom in Big John's because
Speaker 1: everybody wrote on the bathroom in Big John's. And I
Speaker 1: remember writing here I am again, like I said, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a great song title. Yeah, have you given
Speaker 2: that toy of your songwriter friends?
Speaker 1: No, m no, but no, none of the songwriter people
Speaker 1: take my auntie.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell my husband when he comes up here,
Speaker 2: and y'all can ride it together.
Speaker 1: Okay, that'd be great, Yes you should. But when I so,
Speaker 1: every time I would be in Big John's and I
Speaker 1: would be drunk, I would pass by that thing that
Speaker 1: I had written on the wall and go, oh, geez,
Speaker 1: here I am again in here.
Speaker 2: Oh and this so there camp point, You're like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm done. Yeah, being in Big Johns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just yeah, I mean everything in general.
Speaker 1: It just like I would. I live downtown, so sometimes
Speaker 1: I would go out of down. I would drive out
Speaker 1: of downtown and I would go drink at these other
Speaker 1: bars and then I would drive my car back to
Speaker 1: my apartment.
Speaker 2: Already not good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like drinking and driving in Charleston in the you know,
Speaker 1: early two thousands to mid two thousands, everyone in the
Speaker 1: entire city was.
Speaker 2: Doing so no one should be on the roads. Really no.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what it's like now because
Speaker 1: uber and lift exist. Yeah, but back then, it's like
Speaker 1: I tell people, like I tell my wife, who grew
Speaker 1: up in Canada, how much I used to drink and
Speaker 1: drive and it blows her mind that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we would, you know, we would all go
Speaker 2: to the restaurant. It's pretty awful. Can you believe it?
Speaker 2: Like back in the day.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it at all.
Speaker 2: I know, it's so like unbelievable because you're really not
Speaker 2: present at all driving a car.
Speaker 1: No, we would, you know, you know, ten of us
Speaker 1: would get off work at the restaurant. We would go
Speaker 1: to another restaurant. It would be midnight when we got
Speaker 1: out of there, so we would get drunk as fast
Speaker 1: as we could and then all go get in our
Speaker 1: cars and driving home. It terrible, Yeah, I know, and
Speaker 1: and you know, and that's just what we were doing
Speaker 1: all the time. But I had a bar right next
Speaker 1: to my house, so I would get real you know, wasted,
Speaker 1: and then drive home and then stumble into this other
Speaker 1: bar and try to like I don't know what I
Speaker 1: was trying to do, just trying to keep it going.
Speaker 2: I know, isn't it weird? Because then when you get
Speaker 2: out of it, I haven't drank it three years either,
Speaker 2: and it's like, what was I trying? What was I
Speaker 2: trying to do? I because you're not what's the goal?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, and I didn't really use AA but
Speaker 1: I had a friend one time who was in the program.
Speaker 1: He gave me the Big Blue Book and I read
Speaker 1: that book and I and then I also went to
Speaker 1: a couple of meetings with some other people later and
Speaker 1: like their slogan is like I think it's like one
Speaker 1: is too many and a thousand isn't enough, And that
Speaker 1: was the case for me. I was told like I
Speaker 1: wasn't like waking up in the morning drinking, but I
Speaker 1: was totally like once I started, yeah, it was on.
Speaker 2: That was it. Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, a couple of times I've like,
Speaker 1: you know, you go, I'd be a happy hour and like,
Speaker 1: you know, we would go to brunch and we would
Speaker 1: do mimosas, and then we would stay until it started
Speaker 1: to turn into you know, afternoon drinks, and then I'd
Speaker 1: do a shot of some whiskey and then go around
Speaker 1: to the side of the building and throw up and
Speaker 1: then come back in and keep going. I know, it's disgusting.
Speaker 2: It's a different age. I was talking to Maddie. He's
Speaker 2: right here and she's twenty five, and I was like,
Speaker 2: y'all iteration just knows better than ours. It like ours
Speaker 2: is like let's get as drunk as possible because it's awesome,
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh my gosh, that is so unhealthy.
Speaker 2: It's like how you know how we use to kind
Speaker 2: of use cigarettes, like we knew it was bad for us. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's like now they know it's bad for them
Speaker 2: for some reason we didn't know or we.
Speaker 1: Didn't well, I don't think we cared. Also, they say
Speaker 1: that drinking is like an all time belove.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this new generation is smart.
Speaker 1: I think they're smart. But also there's so much video now,
Speaker 1: uh huh that nobody wants to be caught on video.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good batch. Oh yeah, because nothing was
Speaker 2: documented back then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could be.
Speaker 2: You could go crazy, like that's when rock stars were
Speaker 2: throwing TV's out of window. Could you imagine if someone
Speaker 2: did that now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's like that. I think it's Joe
Speaker 1: Walsh has that song where he says, I live in hotels,
Speaker 1: tear out the walls, I have accountdance, pay for it all.
Speaker 1: It's like nobody's doing that.
Speaker 2: Nobody you would be, you would be, you would be canceled.
Speaker 1: I clean up my hotel before I check out, you do.
Speaker 3: I like to make sure everything's in this spot.
Speaker 1: That cleaning up I tip. I'm like, I can't, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to leave it a wreck.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine trash in a hotel.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, right, I know. Okay, So tell me
Speaker 2: about your life. Now. How'd you meet your wife? She's
Speaker 2: from Canada. You are both comedians.
Speaker 1: We were both visiting New York City doing open mics.
Speaker 2: George in the city at the same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was visiting from Toronto. I was visiting from
Speaker 1: Charleston and we were just doing open mics and we
Speaker 1: met at this one open mic, and then, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I think she was pretty unhappy with how
Speaker 1: her trip was going in the comedy world. Uh. And
Speaker 1: she was like, like she told me, she was like,
Speaker 1: I was in part of my language. She said, I
Speaker 1: was in bitch mode. She was like I was, I
Speaker 1: was like mad or whatever. And then she came up
Speaker 1: to me at this barn. She goes, hey, where's the
Speaker 1: sign up for the open mic? Okay, and then she
Speaker 1: heard me talk and she goes, oh, this guy's not
Speaker 1: from around here, you know, And so we just kind
Speaker 1: of hung out because I was like, I didn't know
Speaker 1: anyone either, and so we just kind of hung out.
Speaker 1: And then the rest of that week while she was
Speaker 1: in town, we just went around and did open mics together.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's fun. Y'all have that in common. You
Speaker 2: kind of maybe need to be married someone who at
Speaker 2: least appreciates humor. Yeah, but guess better if they're good
Speaker 2: at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also just understands like the road kind of
Speaker 1: stuff that I'm gonna be, you know gone. Because she
Speaker 1: did comedy for a long time with me, and then
Speaker 1: she eventually, yeah, we would, Yeah, she would open for me,
Speaker 1: and then because I already had a bunch of gigs,
Speaker 1: so she would just go with me. And she's really
Speaker 1: good at comedy, but she just eventually was like I
Speaker 1: hate doing this. She's like, I don't want to do this.
Speaker 2: No, it's not for the faint of heart. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: brutal out there.
Speaker 1: But at the time I was like, I'm not really
Speaker 1: making enough money to support us.
Speaker 2: Both, and she was, Wow, to make money in comedy, right, yes,
Speaker 2: oh a long time, like a long time. Same with
Speaker 2: being an artist, yeah, a long time. People think you're
Speaker 2: all doing great, but really you're like barely getting enough
Speaker 2: to get to the next gig.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the if you tell people what you like.
Speaker 1: I would tell people what I'm getting paid in comedy
Speaker 1: back then, and they would like act like I was
Speaker 1: getting ripped off, like yeah, I was making all the
Speaker 1: wrong moves, and I'm like, this is what it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this this gig is paying me this much money. But
Speaker 1: I beg them to give me the gig. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you just need stage time. That's the only way you're
Speaker 1: gonna get better. So you gotta keep getting the gigs.
Speaker 1: You know. You would drive you know, ten hours to
Speaker 1: do a Friday and Saturday at a club for two
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy dollars, right, and then you and it's like,
Speaker 1: that's so you're losing money. I was able to support
Speaker 1: myself because my car was paid off and I had
Speaker 1: an addic department in the West Side for two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: A month a score.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was tiny and not insulated well, so very
Speaker 1: cold in the winter, very hot in the summer.
Speaker 2: But a place, but a place for very cheap.
Speaker 1: For very cheap, so I had virtually no expenses. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's how I was able to do it. And
Speaker 1: then she moved down and she was on a work
Speaker 1: visa for entertainment, so she can only do entertainment gig.
Speaker 1: Couldn't even get a regular job. So I was like,
Speaker 1: you got to keep doing it. And then the moment
Speaker 1: I was making enough money to support us both, I
Speaker 1: was like, you can quit now if you want to,
Speaker 1: and she quit and canceled gigs.
Speaker 2: She didn't like she was so done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't like a lot of people quit comedy
Speaker 1: because they have no gigs. They're just like, I got
Speaker 1: nothing going on. I'm just gonna stop doing this. She
Speaker 1: quit and had to call people and go, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna come do this gig.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, So what are y'all like at home?
Speaker 2: Like how is your conversation? Like are y'all how are
Speaker 2: y'all communicating? Because I feel like y'all would be a
Speaker 2: very fun couple to be around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do have a fun time. I mean we're both,
Speaker 1: you know, pretty fired up people. We get, you know,
Speaker 1: we can get so we can have some we can
Speaker 1: have some good fights.
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's good to have a good fight. Do
Speaker 2: you have a fighting technique?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like we did for a while.
Speaker 1: We kind of would fake fight with each other, okay
Speaker 1: to like almost comedically, but we were able to express
Speaker 1: the things that were bothering us.
Speaker 3: That's funny.
Speaker 1: But I think we wore that out, okay, I And
Speaker 1: now I just think mainly it's just like we get
Speaker 1: stressed out right because we don't have a lot of help.
Speaker 1: So because I don't trust a lot of people, so
Speaker 1: it's really my fault that we don't have help. And
Speaker 1: none of our family lives around here, so it's like
Speaker 1: when I'm gone, it's my wife alone with the kids,
Speaker 1: so she's stressed. And then when I get home, I'm tired,
Speaker 1: but she's like, well I need some.
Speaker 2: Time on my own, so here are the kids.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we get stress and we love our kids.
Speaker 1: I want to be around my kids all the time,
Speaker 1: of course, But she left to go to the grocery
Speaker 1: store today and I'm yelling at the kids because they're
Speaker 1: in the garage destroying things.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm telling you I've lost all sins of
Speaker 2: calmness today because I have these three kids who I love,
Speaker 2: Like I said, yeah, but like you walk in one
Speaker 2: is dumping out a bag of rocks. The next one
Speaker 2: is cutting paper all over the another one's drawing on
Speaker 2: the couch, and then they're coming up to you asking
Speaker 2: for a million things. Somebody's mad at somebody else, somebody
Speaker 2: just pooped their pants, and it's literally like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I'm my brain has exploded. I don't have enough time
Speaker 2: to process it all. It's all happening too fast.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I think that's why parents lose they're cool. And it's
Speaker 2: really it's not about the kids, it's whatever. Really, it's
Speaker 2: about me, like calming my nervous system enough to respond calmly.
Speaker 2: I know it's so hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you know. We talked about spanking, and
Speaker 1: that's what you know. With that, it's like, you never can.
Speaker 1: This is what they say, and I believe this. You
Speaker 1: never can. You don't spank out of in that mode.
Speaker 1: When you're in like I'm frazzled mode, you have to
Speaker 1: It's like all right, you have to almost like talk
Speaker 1: to them and go, this is why we're doing this
Speaker 1: right now, this is there's a reason why this is happening.
Speaker 1: If you do it and just freak out mode, then
Speaker 1: nobody knows what's going on. It just seems like you're
Speaker 1: beating your kids. And yeah, nobody knows what's happening, and
Speaker 1: that's no good. But I go out in the garage.
Speaker 1: My kids are crying. I go, what's happened? I go
Speaker 1: out and there both trying to get into this stroller
Speaker 1: and they're both stuck in there, and I'm like, why
Speaker 1: are you doing this? You don't even want to be
Speaker 1: in this stroller when I ask you to get in.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's because one of them wants it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: It's really something. It's really great. It's amazing, but it's
Speaker 2: like it really pushes you. It really shows you how
Speaker 2: far you can go, which is great.
Speaker 1: I do think. I mean, I'm forty three. I didn't
Speaker 1: have a kid till I was almost forty, so I
Speaker 1: basically have this my my period, my decades. Right, my
Speaker 1: twenties I was an alcoholic Okay, I don't like to
Speaker 1: say alcoholic because I just drank a lot. You just
Speaker 1: drink a lot, right, And then thirties I was learning
Speaker 1: to become a comic and smoking a lot of weed.
Speaker 1: And then in my forties I'm like, this is dad,
Speaker 1: my dad.
Speaker 2: I love the chapters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my dad decade.
Speaker 2: Have they all helped and build upon each other?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think having kids, and I never
Speaker 1: thought that. I never wanted to have kids. I always
Speaker 1: feel like, not that I don't like kids, I love them,
Speaker 1: but I felt like, you know, the world's exploding. I
Speaker 1: mean in my mind, you know, the world's been about
Speaker 1: to end for the last fifteen years. I mean, right,
Speaker 1: So I was like, I don't want to bring kids
Speaker 1: into the world. But the moment I did it, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, what was I thinking? Like kids, it
Speaker 1: takes you to a next level of adulthood and it does,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think you have to do it.
Speaker 2: What have you learned about yourself?
Speaker 1: I mean, you mean as like a dad. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean that's a hard question. I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like a lot of things. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know. I've learned that, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I don't have the patience that
Speaker 1: I once thought I had, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I do think I'm pretty patient.
Speaker 2: I taught you.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's taught me that I needed
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 2: I feel that it took because what you're saying, it
Speaker 2: did take me somewhere that I've had to. Like, you
Speaker 2: know what it's done for me? Is it shown me
Speaker 2: all my edges, Like I have seen all of my
Speaker 2: edges and I'm like, ooh, I need to round that
Speaker 2: one off a little bit, or ooh that one's a
Speaker 2: little spicy, or you know. But then it also showed
Speaker 2: me how much I can love, like I didn't know how.
Speaker 2: Of course I love my husband, of course I love
Speaker 2: my family, but like, I didn't know I could love
Speaker 2: this much because I've never loved anything until, like it
Speaker 2: physically hurt me before until I had kids, and it
Speaker 2: like physically hurts you know.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's good. I feel like that's true. It's
Speaker 1: like now when I'm on a plane and somebody else's
Speaker 1: kids are crying, I'm not mad about I feel sorry
Speaker 1: for the kids. Yeah, I almost want.
Speaker 2: To help because you know they're distressed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost want to go let me hold them
Speaker 1: for a minute. Yeah, let me see what I can do, yes,
Speaker 1: because I yeah, I feel bad. I feel like that.
Speaker 1: When you don't have kids, you just think, oh, what's
Speaker 1: going on with these kids? Make the kids be quiet?
Speaker 1: But when you're an adult, you know, like with kids,
Speaker 1: you're like, well that you can't make the kid be quiet? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and maybe you know my ears. I have real bad
Speaker 1: problems with my ears. I'm flying all the time. Almost
Speaker 1: every time, I have to do this thing where I
Speaker 1: pop my ears almost every flight, or it builds up
Speaker 1: so bad that it's really painful. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on with it, but that's what happens. So I
Speaker 1: always think, well, maybe that's what's going on with the kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they don't know how to blow their blow their
Speaker 1: ears out?
Speaker 3: Yeah totally.
Speaker 1: And also, uh, you know, I I like kids better
Speaker 1: in general when I see kids out, I like them.
Speaker 2: Better now Yeah, yeah, I feel it.
Speaker 1: And I made a joke about this on on my
Speaker 1: uh my working man, uh special Uh but and this
Speaker 1: seems morbid. Well, I just would always like like if
Speaker 1: I were on a plane before and I felt like
Speaker 1: the plane was going down, I was like, well, I
Speaker 1: don't want to die, but you know, so be it right,
Speaker 1: who cares? Right? But now that I have kids, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I gotta live.
Speaker 2: I know you have to.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta be there for them. What's gonna
Speaker 1: happen if I die. Who you know, so I gotta live?
Speaker 2: You can't, Yeah, you have to. Yeah, it's kind of
Speaker 2: a little bit more. You're just kind of like, well
Speaker 2: case the ras raw when it's just you, yeah, but
Speaker 2: then when it's yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just felt like I'm at peace with it.
Speaker 1: If I die, that's a good place to be, though
Speaker 1: it is, but I you know, I'm Christian. I feel like,
Speaker 1: if I die, I go to Heaven. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: why would I want to be on Earth where things
Speaker 1: are bad? If I could go to a different place.
Speaker 1: But now that I have kids, I'm like, well, I
Speaker 1: got a responsibility. I can't just escape to paradise while
Speaker 1: they were in here. I brought these kids in, uh huh,
Speaker 1: and there I gotta you know, I gotta be here
Speaker 1: to you know, protect these kids because and I guess
Speaker 1: I've also learned that sort of stuff too that it's like,
Speaker 1: I gotta, you know, there's things you gotta do to
Speaker 1: protect kids. You can't you know, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just feel like when I was growing up in the nineties,
Speaker 1: it was eighties and nineties and eighties or something, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could, you know, you could just let the I
Speaker 1: would just I would leave.
Speaker 2: Parents would just send you outside all day.
Speaker 1: I would ride before I got four wheelers. When I
Speaker 1: was younger, we would ride bikes everywhere. Wait, we would
Speaker 1: ride bikes down to the to the river was the river,
Speaker 1: the Tallapoosa River.
Speaker 2: In Alabama, and no one knew.
Speaker 1: We would go down there and swim in the river
Speaker 1: as little kids.
Speaker 2: And where you were what you're doing swimming in the
Speaker 2: river with no adult supervision? Yeah, so many things could
Speaker 2: happen to little kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then when we were older, we had four wheelers,
Speaker 1: and then we would just do the same thing with
Speaker 1: the four wheelers. I grew up in the trailer park,
Speaker 1: and we would we had woods on either side. We
Speaker 1: would just disappear, and.
Speaker 2: They're gonna worry that you're gonna get hit by a
Speaker 2: car or you know, lost in the woods or around
Speaker 2: on the river.
Speaker 1: My mom worked third shift. She came home and went
Speaker 1: to sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just knew it was gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: She was happy that I was out of the house
Speaker 1: so she could sleep, I know. And then my mom
Speaker 1: would go to work. I mean, you know, when I
Speaker 1: was a little little kid, I had some somebody with me.
Speaker 1: But as I got, I mean I was alone at night,
Speaker 1: way too young.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different time I got.
Speaker 1: You know how collect calls used to get my sister.
Speaker 1: We lived in one trailer and then my sister and
Speaker 1: her husband lived in the trailer next store. Okay, not always,
Speaker 1: but for a little while. Yeah, because we had our
Speaker 1: own little We had our own little yard because you know,
Speaker 1: and you'd share the yard in a trailer trailer park,
Speaker 1: So we had our own little shared you. I think
Speaker 1: that's just nice, but I you know, collect calls used
Speaker 1: to be like you would get a call to the
Speaker 1: landline and it would say, uh, you know, you have
Speaker 1: an AT and T Collect call from, and then it
Speaker 1: would be the person's voice and they would say, oh Jerry,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you could accept or not. One night,
Speaker 1: I got a call my mom's at work. I'm alone.
Speaker 1: I wake up. I answered, and it says, you have
Speaker 1: a collect call from I know where you live. You're dead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I freak out and I run to my sister's
Speaker 1: house and I wouldn't and then I stayed at my
Speaker 1: sister's house for a long time. But they smoked cigarettes inside,
Speaker 1: so uh, I would just be I would go to
Speaker 1: school smell like smoke and be real smoky. So I
Speaker 1: was just like, you know what, I'll just risk his
Speaker 1: back at the back of the house.
Speaker 2: Did you ever find out who it was?
Speaker 1: No? I had no, but you know, we had phone
Speaker 1: books back then, which is also a wild Can you
Speaker 1: believe it that you just have your name and home address.
Speaker 2: And number in a book for everyone to have.
Speaker 1: So it just was so true. It was just my
Speaker 1: mom's name in there, and so there was a we
Speaker 1: called the cops, you know, and there was so because
Speaker 1: it was a voicemail, but the voicemail was just like
Speaker 1: clearly a reference to it, just because it like the
Speaker 1: whole time the voicemail's going, it's going to collect call,
Speaker 1: you know, so you don't pick it all up, and
Speaker 1: then you just get to the message and you hear
Speaker 1: that same voice go you're titties, you know. So it's
Speaker 1: like it's clearly just some creepy trying to you know,
Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe it was one of my mom's ex boyfriends,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was like, I don't know, freaked.
Speaker 2: Us out and just like though it was just a
Speaker 2: different time of life, like all that all that went down.
Speaker 2: I talked to my daughter about the eighties all the time,
Speaker 2: and she's always telling me she's like, that's that was
Speaker 2: different though, because it was the eighties. I'm like, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a totally different time in the eighties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think about it all the time and
Speaker 1: I think how much better it was. But I you know,
Speaker 1: I've kept journals at various times in my life. Not always,
Speaker 1: but I had like a journal from the late nineties
Speaker 1: early two thousands where I would periodically write, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I was reading some of that stuff the other day
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was not happy back then.
Speaker 1: I remember it like, oh, it's just a dollge ast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I I read that and I go, no, it's better.
Speaker 2: Now you're angsting. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think social media as bad as I don't like it.
Speaker 1: As much as I don't like it, I think there's
Speaker 1: so many good things that, like, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: keeps you from being lonely, yeah, which I think is
Speaker 1: good and bad, right, because I think loneliness helps you
Speaker 1: be creative.
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 1: So when you're never lonely, you're like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: if I'm like when I used to if I had
Speaker 1: to go to the DMV or something and wait, I
Speaker 1: would I would take a book and I would just
Speaker 1: read a book. And now I go to the DMV,
Speaker 1: I go, I just got my phone.
Speaker 2: I'll you for hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just veg out in here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I used to, you know, I read when I worked,
Speaker 1: when I sawicides, I would like, my boss lived four
Speaker 1: hours away in Atlanta, so I was off on my own,
Speaker 1: so I would go in. I would do my work
Speaker 1: in the store. But the you know, the rule was
Speaker 1: you never wanted them to know how fast you could
Speaker 1: get the job.
Speaker 2: You want to do it the slowest possible, right, So
Speaker 2: you would.
Speaker 1: Do the work. And then I would go sit in
Speaker 1: the car and smoke cigarettes and read books. And I read.
Speaker 1: I read The Shining, which is a book like this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because and I don't read a lot of books, but
Speaker 1: I just had all this free time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the moment I got a smartphone at that job,
Speaker 1: book's gone. The book's gone.
Speaker 2: Book's gone. Okay. So when you are on stage and
Speaker 2: people probably ask you this all the time, but this
Speaker 2: would be my absolute biggest fear, Like I've said this
Speaker 2: so many times, being a comedian would be like my
Speaker 2: worst nightmare, like for me personally, because the thought of
Speaker 2: all the pressure of having to make people laugh, because like,
Speaker 2: have you ever stood up there and it just is bombing?
Speaker 2: Because I know you succeed because you're hilarious, like people
Speaker 2: are dying laughing at you. But have you ever had
Speaker 2: a moment that's it's like, oh my god, a board ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean many, many times.
Speaker 2: How do you survive it?
Speaker 1: Well, it's like, now you know, it's like coming up
Speaker 1: in comedy, you're you're like, you know, you're figuring out
Speaker 1: your jokes, so you a bomb sometimes. And then when
Speaker 1: you're an opening act, it's like a lot of times
Speaker 1: either it's either you're performing for an audience that has
Speaker 1: no idea what comics are going to be there, or
Speaker 1: they're just there for the headliner, so you know, you
Speaker 1: just may not be the comic for them. But now
Speaker 1: you know, it's my audience that comes to shows, So
Speaker 1: I don't really have it at my shows thankfully, I mean,
Speaker 1: because they're there for me. I have some shows that
Speaker 1: go better than others, but no bombs. But now what
Speaker 1: happens is I'll do like a corporate gig where a
Speaker 1: company hires me, and the boss that's hired me is
Speaker 1: a huge fan. And but you know, I'm performing for
Speaker 1: an audience of people that is either you know, there's
Speaker 1: either they don't care about comedy or they've been listening
Speaker 1: to speakers all day, and so even though I'm there
Speaker 1: telling jokes, I'm still just another guy talking yep. But
Speaker 1: they're just not into it, okay. So in that situation,
Speaker 1: you know, you just have to rely on the fact
Speaker 1: that you're like, all right, I know I'm funny, I
Speaker 1: know these jokes work, and this is just this kind
Speaker 1: of show. And as long as you don't have too
Speaker 1: many of those in a row, you're okay. You walk
Speaker 1: away from that. I've done some corporate gigs where they've
Speaker 1: paid me a lot of money and I I almost
Speaker 1: want to apologize to them at the end of the night,
Speaker 1: but it's not my.
Speaker 2: Fault because it's who you are.
Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, I came ready, Yeah I did
Speaker 1: the joke because so many jokes because I have albums
Speaker 1: and specials. So I'm like, all right, if this joke's
Speaker 1: not working, I'll pivot to this joke.
Speaker 2: Do you just have a memorize in your head.
Speaker 1: Most of them, yeah, okay, and then I'll go I'll go,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll do this joke. This joke always works.
Speaker 1: And if I do a joke that always works and
Speaker 1: it doesn't work and it doesn't work, then I almost
Speaker 1: go all right, I'm just gonna do brand.
Speaker 2: New jokes a good place to try.
Speaker 1: Because brand new jokes you don't know what kind of
Speaker 1: reaction they're supposed to get, So any reaction is good, okay.
Speaker 1: But an old joke where I go, I know they
Speaker 1: laugh here, here, and here, and then they don't laugh
Speaker 1: in those spots, then I feel bad about the joke.
Speaker 1: I go, is that even a good joke? But if
Speaker 1: I do new jokes and I get one laugh, I go, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe there's something here.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So that's how I handle it. But yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of Sometimes I do the opera and
Speaker 1: we were talking about, you know, just being older people.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the first joke or two doesn't really land with it, okay,
Speaker 1: But I've done it enough times where like, all the
Speaker 1: people in the backup band are like my friends now,
Speaker 1: they're all cool. All the people off to the side,
Speaker 1: they're all cool. So even if it's not working. I
Speaker 1: know they're into it. I think they're into it if
Speaker 1: it's not working because I improv a little bit. Mm hmmm,
Speaker 1: uh so you know you got that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I've done some corporates where I'm like, jeez,
Speaker 1: what is this is brutal? What's the deal out here?
Speaker 2: Do you think that like you and Nate garget Ski
Speaker 2: Barghetti BARGATSI his like because all y'all's crew like, y'all
Speaker 2: you said, y'all are more clean humor, y'all kind of
Speaker 2: stick together, y'all are doing his podcast like, y'all are
Speaker 2: very funny, but it's not like it doesn't it's not
Speaker 2: this like vulgar extreme humor in like in the past,
Speaker 2: if like comedians kind of were most of the time.
Speaker 2: Do you think that people are craving this because I
Speaker 2: know I am. I like, am actually sitting there laughing
Speaker 2: at your special and I'm like laughing at Nate stuff
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I relate to this and I don't
Speaker 2: feel like awkward laughing at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this has happened. I think like maybe
Speaker 1: early on, like people weren't allowed to say certain things
Speaker 1: so Special TV. So these edgy comics were like suddenly
Speaker 1: like a new thing where you were like, oh.
Speaker 2: I can't wait they're saying that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then it's like, over time, in order to
Speaker 1: be edgier, it has to just get worse and worse
Speaker 1: and worse into where you reach a place where it's
Speaker 1: like it's so over the top that there's still an
Speaker 1: audience for that. I like a lot of there's a
Speaker 1: lot of comics that I like that are super edgy
Speaker 1: and dirty. As long as they're you know, creative and funny,
Speaker 1: I think it's really great. But you know, there's an
Speaker 1: audience of people that they don't want that. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think people are not necessarily searching for super clean
Speaker 1: although there is an audience for that. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of Nateland people now that listen, not all of them.
Speaker 1: There's some of the people that listen to atlant are
Speaker 1: like the greatest people, but some of them are like,
Speaker 1: if it's not ultra clean, they're like, what's happening, Okay, right?
Speaker 1: I don't I always say I don't do comedy for kids.
Speaker 1: I don't want kids to watch my comedy because I
Speaker 1: want to talk about weed and drinking and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like keep it within reason. It's because with comedy,
Speaker 1: if you don't know what you're going to see, you
Speaker 1: could see you could see someone very nice. You could
Speaker 1: go see innate and go, oh, this was really fun
Speaker 1: and funny, or you could hear the worst thing you've
Speaker 1: ever heard in your life.
Speaker 2: It's so the spectrum is so big.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I took my brother in law, who's not a prude,
Speaker 1: but he's a Christian guy. I took him to an
Speaker 1: open mic with me when I first moved to Nashville,
Speaker 1: and it blew his mind. I think he left there
Speaker 1: emotionally scarred. Yeah, because he had never heard some of
Speaker 1: those things. Yeah, the way people talk. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty desensitized to it now because I've been around so
Speaker 1: much comedy. I think I have a theory that that's
Speaker 1: why more women don't do comedy, because you know, you
Speaker 1: have this open mic scene that you have to really
Speaker 1: go through to get somewhere. Yeah, And it's like, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of women are like, I don't need
Speaker 1: this in my life. Huh, I'm gonna do a different thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna listen to these guys, you know, talk
Speaker 1: about what they're doing in their private bedroom.
Speaker 2: I know, you know, yeah, I'm with you, though. I
Speaker 2: think it was so shock value in the first because
Speaker 2: people didn't talk about stuff, and now they talk about everything,
Speaker 2: and so now it's like, oh my gosh, what a
Speaker 2: breath of fresh air to have some good just some
Speaker 2: good humor that we can really laugh at.
Speaker 1: But it's not like, yeah, and there's a ton of
Speaker 1: clean comedy out there's a ton of clean comedy, but
Speaker 1: there's only a little of the clean comedy that's really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how you says in that group, who do you
Speaker 2: run around with?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we have a lot. I mean Aaron
Speaker 1: and Brian, Aaron Weber, Brian Bates, who both through the
Speaker 1: podcast very funny, very funny, very clean. I mean we have.
Speaker 1: Now there are a handful of comics in Nashville that
Speaker 1: can do both. Like there's a guy Zach Townsend and
Speaker 1: a guy Connor Larson. I'd take them on the road
Speaker 1: with me some and they are clean for me. Okay,
Speaker 1: So if you saw them at my show, you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: these are really funny, clean comics. And then if you
Speaker 1: saw them on a not clean show, you would be like,
Speaker 1: what happened is that?
Speaker 2: A thing clean and not clean.
Speaker 1: I think so because you're coming up in comedy. As
Speaker 1: long as you can be clean, then you can open
Speaker 1: for anybody. Okay, because a lot of comics, even dirty comics,
Speaker 1: want clean openers because they're like, the dirty is my thing.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to use up all the dirty jokes.
Speaker 2: Oh there's strategy here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, with a clean comic, you like, there's a
Speaker 1: couple of reasons you want clean openers if you're clean one.
Speaker 1: I always say this. I always tell comics like, if
Speaker 1: you're dirty and you bomb, great, that's gonna be great
Speaker 1: for me. But if you're dirty and you crush, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be kind of hard to follow you with the
Speaker 1: jokes about the home depot. I can do it, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna be harder, and it's my show. I don't
Speaker 1: want to work that hard.
Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 1: But also, once you start to get an art not.
Speaker 2: Even I could not even know this as thoughts.
Speaker 1: Yes, but then once you have your own audience, well,
Speaker 1: your audience is coming because they like your kind of comedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then you bring someone else who fits into that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you don't want to bring somebody that's gonna.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah Mojo, Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, so it really
Speaker 2: is like Genres.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There was a comic named Rich Voss and he
Speaker 1: said this, He said, you know, cause he's he was,
Speaker 1: he's a he's out of New York, very offensive comic
Speaker 1: I worked for. I opened for him one time a
Speaker 1: Zany's and he really blew my mind in a good way.
Speaker 1: I thought he was very funny, and he he offended
Speaker 1: these people and they left, you know, and he goes.
Speaker 1: People never research the comic they're going to see. They
Speaker 1: never they never look up to see what they're going
Speaker 1: to see. You would never go to see music and
Speaker 1: sit in the front row and go, I hope it's jazz. Right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know. So it's like if you're gonna
Speaker 1: go see someone that you don't know, watch a video.
Speaker 2: Yeah, total, Because I have people that do that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the audience might not be laughing. In the beginning,
Speaker 1: I go, have you guys ever watched a video of me?
Speaker 1: Because if you watched any video of me, there's nothing
Speaker 1: that would lead you to believe I'm gonna do anything
Speaker 1: different than what I'm doing right now. Okay, it doesn't
Speaker 1: happen to me much anymore. But I I, you know,
Speaker 1: I've not been at this level for a long time.
Speaker 1: I've been you know, slowly going up. So, you know,
Speaker 1: for a long time, I was headlining clubs, yeah, where
Speaker 1: some people were coming to see me, other people were
Speaker 1: just coming, and then other people would be free tickets
Speaker 1: that the club would gave out. You know, So I
Speaker 1: used to you know, I you know, I could bomb
Speaker 1: for ten minutes and then finally have a joke that
Speaker 1: works and I go, yeah, these are funny jokes. People,
Speaker 1: I go get into it. I don't travel the country
Speaker 1: doing mediocre jokes out here. I almost like hit them
Speaker 1: with that to like be like lighting up guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just we're just telling jokes here.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we've already been talking an hour. I know
Speaker 2: you have a show tonight. I want to just ask
Speaker 2: you a question, two questions. What would you tell someone
Speaker 2: who wants to get into comedy, Like how do you
Speaker 2: do it? Like how do you survive the grind to
Speaker 2: get to where you are?
Speaker 1: Well? I would say, you know, you just you need
Speaker 1: stage time, You need to be jokes. Don't you know,
Speaker 1: have an idea of what you're gonna say when you
Speaker 1: get on stage. Don't go I'm funny for my friends.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna wing.
Speaker 2: It an outline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have an idea of what you want to say,
Speaker 1: even if you're like, I'm just gonna tell this story.
Speaker 1: Say the story out loud to yourself, just to know
Speaker 1: how you want it to go. Sometimes you think something's
Speaker 1: funny and you say it out loud and you go, now,
Speaker 1: that's not funny. So you you work it out and
Speaker 1: then get plenty of stage time and then don't expect
Speaker 1: anything to happen for you for a long time, like
Speaker 1: a long time. It may, but don't expect it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: People get into comedy and they just think, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm about to make it happen. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: guy out there. I just saw a video the other
Speaker 1: day and he's like talking about follow me on my
Speaker 1: journey from you know, open mics to stadiums, and he's
Speaker 1: like just gotten into comedy. And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's very good at editing videos. And I applaud him
Speaker 1: for his.
Speaker 2: You know confidence.
Speaker 1: Yes, but it's like, dude, it it takes a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think taking a long time is the way
Speaker 1: now nowadays, Yeah, nowadays, people can go viral and they
Speaker 1: can draw an audience. Pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Can they continue to deliver?
Speaker 1: Right, It's like taking a long time helps you become
Speaker 1: good and then we finally get the audience.
Speaker 2: You're so broken in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a comic. I know. She's very funny. She
Speaker 1: and she worked, she did a different way. This is
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Chelsea Lynn Trailer Park Tammy. Oh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're friends, and I talked to her about this because she,
Speaker 1: you know, for a long time worked social media and
Speaker 1: only social media. Now she's better at that than me,
Speaker 1: so that's a skill all its own, right. But when
Speaker 1: she decided to go into comedy, stand up comedy, she
Speaker 1: was immediately selling out theaters right now. She worked, So
Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from her, but I think,
Speaker 1: to me, that's the most terrifying thing, right to already
Speaker 1: have this audience of people that's now coming to see you,
Speaker 1: and you've not really done a lot of standings.
Speaker 2: And now you have to go perform, so you have
Speaker 2: to get through the stage right on there.
Speaker 1: But she's very funny and she's doing it well.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I just think that's a terrifying way the way I
Speaker 1: did it. You know, I'm opening for people. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm doing open mics with you know, I used to
Speaker 1: do Bobby's Idol Hour.
Speaker 2: You know that place. Oh yes, there used to.
Speaker 1: Be a Monday open mic at Bobby's Idle Hour and
Speaker 1: it would be like just comics and then like a
Speaker 1: handful of guys sitting at the bar drinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my gauge was always, if I can get one
Speaker 1: of those guys to turn around and listen to me,
Speaker 1: then this is a good joke.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: There was one old man that used to sit on
Speaker 1: the corner, pretty overweight, and if I could make that
Speaker 1: guy laugh, I was like, oh, that's a good job, right.
Speaker 1: But it's like no one was seeing me bomb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's a totally different error because like it's
Speaker 2: the same thing. This is so the same as music.
Speaker 2: Kids are breaking on TikTok. They're waking up every day
Speaker 2: singing songs into the camera. They get a huge audience,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden they're selling out theaters
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh my god, they have to learn
Speaker 2: how to perform. Yeah, it's just reverse. It's a totally
Speaker 2: reversed way. Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even Chelsea Lynn her thing like she worked
Speaker 1: because I did a I did a you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of podcasts with her, and it's like she had
Speaker 1: a long journey with social media, right, so she's been
Speaker 1: working it for a really long time. Some people hit
Speaker 1: almost right away in social media and then develop this
Speaker 1: audience and they've not worked anything. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 1: go to the and people tell me about them. They
Speaker 1: go to these clubs and people people go they sold
Speaker 1: a ton of tickets, but terrible show one way or another.
Speaker 2: You gotta be able to like do it on the stage.
Speaker 2: You're so right, Okay. I always wrap up with leave
Speaker 2: your light and it's just super open ended. What do
Speaker 2: you want people to know? Just drop some inspiration? Well,
Speaker 2: I don't know, well big wisdom here.
Speaker 1: Well you know, I'm you know, this is sort of
Speaker 1: my thing. I love to talk about these sort of things,
Speaker 1: like how you know, like life is good, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, It's like you just got to work hard.
Speaker 1: I know, there's this thing out there these days where
Speaker 1: people are saying, oh, the boomers are saying, you gotta,
Speaker 1: you know, pull up your bootstraps and just get to work.
Speaker 1: And it's like, I know, things are not exactly the
Speaker 1: same as they used to be, but it is still
Speaker 1: a thing you gotta work for whatever you want to do.
Speaker 1: It's like I was sitting out and I was in
Speaker 1: Georgia somewhere, just kind of in the woods, not it
Speaker 1: was public woods, and this guy comes up with a
Speaker 1: camera and they go, if you could give a millennial
Speaker 1: or whatever. H he is some advice and I go,
Speaker 1: what are you trying to do? And he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to do this kind of video content. Well
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, just learn to be really good at
Speaker 1: this because people are always looking for video people. People
Speaker 1: are always looking for content creators, So be really good
Speaker 1: at that. So whatever it is that you want to do,
Speaker 1: just be really good at it. You know, everybody wants
Speaker 1: to use AI now is very against AI for a
Speaker 1: long time. I'm not completely against it now. As long
Speaker 1: as you're not using AI to come up with your ideas.
Speaker 2: For you, it's enhance them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have your own ideas, you know, But anything you
Speaker 1: want to do, just work hard at it. They like,
Speaker 1: I can't play guitar, but people always say that. You know,
Speaker 1: people go, oh, when you're in your you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I say, you're fifteen you want to play guitar, You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wish I could play guitar, and then it takes
Speaker 1: ten years to get really good at guitar. And then
Speaker 1: you go, oh, that's too long. And then by the
Speaker 1: time you're twenty five you're you're still like, I wish
Speaker 1: I could play guitar. Yeah, and if you would have
Speaker 1: started at fifteen, you would be able to do it
Speaker 1: by day.
Speaker 2: So just start and get good at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then you get twenty five, you go, oh,
Speaker 1: that's too late. But if you start at twenty five,
Speaker 1: by thirty five, you'll be able to play uh huh.
Speaker 1: And don't let people tell you can't do things. Just
Speaker 1: just do the thing, but don't There also is this
Speaker 1: other thing where people are so like they're so they
Speaker 1: so get into this thing of like I'm gonna do it,
Speaker 1: and you know, I know I can do it, and
Speaker 1: like a like a like it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Like a manifesting it into existence, so strongly.
Speaker 1: Like this is gonna happen. And for me, you know,
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I'm a Christian. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of Christians will do this sort of thing. And
Speaker 1: I know other people are doing it too, but they'll say,
Speaker 1: you know, God wants this for me, so he'll make
Speaker 1: it happen. And then they kind of like stop putting
Speaker 1: in the work because they just are like, well, God's
Speaker 1: gonna do it, but it's like maybe he will, but
Speaker 1: you need to do the work. Yeah, does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's just absolutely.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's just this thing where nobody wants
Speaker 1: to do the work and.
Speaker 2: I don't want to just show up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to do manual labor. But I
Speaker 1: know comics that are like they've been given all these
Speaker 1: opportunities and it's like all you got to do now
Speaker 1: is really like work hard at stand up. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they just keep getting the opportunities and they're not working
Speaker 1: hard at stand up. It's like, nobody wants to go
Speaker 1: and feature for two hundred and seventy dollars a weekend,
Speaker 1: but that's how you get good.
Speaker 2: That's so true.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to stand in front of the audience of
Speaker 1: Bobby's Idol hour of people that don't laugh at their jokes,
Speaker 1: but that's how you do it.
Speaker 2: That's so true.
Speaker 1: I used to do to try to open for my
Speaker 1: friend's bands and that's always terrible. But it's like, if
Speaker 1: you can, you need the stage time. I would do
Speaker 1: poetry open mics. I had a guy tell me that
Speaker 1: the poetry open mike. He goes, I'll let you do it.
Speaker 1: But this, I just want to tell you, this audience
Speaker 1: does not like when people do comedy here. But I
Speaker 1: just kind of felt the vibe of the room and
Speaker 1: I go, all right, I'm just gonna try to be
Speaker 1: poetic in a way with my jokes. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be soft spoken and I'm gonna tell the jokes. And
Speaker 1: these people started to really like me, and it's like, you.
Speaker 2: Just gotta you got it. You just gotta show up
Speaker 2: and do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do the thing that you want to do.
Speaker 2: I love that. You know, Dusty Slate, You're amazing. Okay,
Speaker 2: So you have a two Netflix specials out now.
Speaker 1: I have one out now called working.
Speaker 2: Man, okay, and then nothing one's coming out and.
Speaker 1: In July twenty nineth that have one coming out called
Speaker 1: Wet Heat.
Speaker 2: Okay. Are you on tour also.
Speaker 1: I'm always on tour. I'm taking a little time off
Speaker 1: June and July, but the end of July I'm getting
Speaker 1: back out it. And in the second half of the year.
Speaker 1: I'm all over the.
Speaker 2: Place, and you're on Nateland podcast.
Speaker 1: On Nateland podcast every Wednesday, and I have a podcast
Speaker 1: called the We're Having a Good Time podcast comes out
Speaker 1: every Thursday. Okay, so, and I'm on you know this
Speaker 1: Areas podcast. I'm with socials at Dusty Sleigh, and I'm
Speaker 1: very active on social media and don't be fooled by
Speaker 1: uh there's a lot of fake accounts.
Speaker 2: Now, okay, Dusty Sleigh all day.
Speaker 1: Only one blue check mark by all the things, and
Speaker 1: I do respond okay, but sometimes people are fooled. The
Speaker 1: fake accounts go hello, dear fan, and then people are fooled.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what talk like? Are you even a fan of?
Speaker 1: Maybe you think I'm saying hello first, right and then
Speaker 1: deep here? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, come on, guys, Dusty Sligh, Okay, can I do
Speaker 2: you have like ten more minutes?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: Okay, We're gonna do a bonus episode and we're gonna
Speaker 2: draw some questions called tell me more, Dusty Slay, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for joining me. You're so funny. This
Speaker 2: was so awesome to get to talk to you. I'm
Speaker 2: very inspired by you. Being a comedian is no joke,
Speaker 2: and you're.
Speaker 3: Really good at it.
Speaker 2: That was I didn't even know funny. I'm not funny.
Speaker 2: I don't see that.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: No, that is good though, that's not. That's as basic
Speaker 2: as it gets.
Speaker 1: Really, I think, you know, I think the basic thing.
Speaker 1: I think people say that now, and I think BASIC's
Speaker 1: good people, basics, good people to the simple. You know. Yeah, okays,
Speaker 1: like being normal is so bad now being normals.
Speaker 2: Actually, we're all trying to get back to it, right.
Speaker 1: You have a farm, Yeah, I go out in mcmanville.
Speaker 1: I have a little cabin and I have some land
Speaker 1: and live in the good life. Yeah. I read the
Speaker 1: four wheeler around. Yeah, yes, yeah, I got a garden
Speaker 1: I saw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: If I can keep my son from ripping all the
Speaker 1: green vegetables off.
Speaker 2: You might get a salad.
Speaker 1: I might get a salad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1: I did have a salad the other day. Lettuce, kale,
Speaker 1: cucumbers and uh.
Speaker 2: Tomato, carrot, carrot, all from the garden. That felt good.
Speaker 1: I bet it did feel good.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Yes, thank.
Speaker 1: You, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2: Dusty's say thank you so much. Okay, bye pop Terance
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