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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kick Off live

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Speaker 1: right here on Giants dot com. John Schmulk Lance medal

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Speaker 1: with you the phone numbers two oh one, nine three,

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Speaker 1: Paul Schwartz in the New York Post, who had a

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Speaker 1: big article on the Giants and the quarterback situation late

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Speaker 1: last week. He's also in Atlanta for the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: so we'll talk about that stuff with Paul twelve fifteen.

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Speaker 1: We will try to take a couple of calls before

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Speaker 1: we get the Paul, and then we'll take some calls

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Speaker 1: after the interview with Paul as well. Lance. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Very excited for a Super Bowl fifty three. I'm not

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Speaker 1: necessarily a big fan of the huge build up. My

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Speaker 1: feeling is, let's get to the game, let's get it

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Speaker 1: over with, and let's move forward in an ideal world

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Speaker 1: that actually get rid of the weekend between. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we need two weeks in between. Come on, Lance,

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Speaker 1: you need the hype. No, I think we can live

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Speaker 1: without the dive. I think it's more than cable of

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Speaker 1: getting ready after the conference championship games. The only the

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Speaker 1: only good thing I think you get is that both

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Speaker 1: teams are healthier, and you know, you give guys that

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Speaker 1: actual time to get healthy, guys that are heard of

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Speaker 1: a better chance of getting back. That's the only good

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Speaker 1: argument for me for having the two weeks in between. Well,

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Speaker 1: to me, it's similar to baseball when they had the

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Speaker 1: Baseball playoffs and they used to give some of these

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Speaker 1: teams like extra days off in between games, especially when

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Speaker 1: there wasn't travel. What you would do is you'd give

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Speaker 1: a team that doesn't have a deep rotation the ability

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Speaker 1: to get away with like a three man starting start.

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Speaker 1: To me, even if guys are not healthy, it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be the NFL's obligation to make sure that they get

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Speaker 1: back because if it's a normal NFL schedule, if you

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Speaker 1: can't recuperate in a week, you're gonna miss the game.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm not in favor of giving them

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Speaker 1: much more time. So this way we maximize the ability

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Speaker 1: for everybody to get back onto the field. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna change, So no, I'm agree with you, and

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Speaker 1: you're certainly not gonna change. I'm just throwing it out

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Speaker 1: there that in an ideal world, I'd love to just

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Speaker 1: play immediately after the conference championship games. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: think I remember the last time that happen. They used

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Speaker 1: to alternate. They used to do two weeks off, one

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Speaker 1: week off, two weeks off, one week off. They did

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Speaker 1: that for quite some time. Well, I know it was

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Speaker 1: you know, they went back to one week for a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Wasn't ever an every other year's situation everyone yet,

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Speaker 1: at least for a period of time, right, I don't

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Speaker 1: remember that though. Yeah, I mean, I don't exactly know

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Speaker 1: how many years consecutively they did it, but they did

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Speaker 1: used to alternate it, and then it got to the

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Speaker 1: point where it's just automatic. And part of the rationale,

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Speaker 1: John was the fact that they feel because of the

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Speaker 1: quick turnaround and these players in the demands and tickets

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Speaker 1: and travel and getting the families there, that they feel

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Speaker 1: like they needed to give them an additional week. It's

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Speaker 1: too much to get done on top of learning the

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Speaker 1: scheme and the tweaks and the changes that you want

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Speaker 1: in terms of your game plan. So I get the

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Speaker 1: logistical argument, but I really feel like there's no reason why,

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Speaker 1: out with more than enough time, they could easily play

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Speaker 1: the game as far as I'm concerned. Absolutely. Um one

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Speaker 1: other piece of news today besides the game itself, Adam

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Speaker 1: surprise that the Competition Committee is gonna take a longer

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Speaker 1: look this year at giving coaches the ability to challenge

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Speaker 1: judgment calls. This is something Bill Belich has brought up

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Speaker 1: the last three or four years, wanting all calls be

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Speaker 1: able to be challenged. But they want to put in

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Speaker 1: a bit of a disincentive in there where if you

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Speaker 1: challenge it and you're wrong, you either get penalized or

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Speaker 1: doing that to try to keep the fold the game up,

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Speaker 1: and they don't want that to, you know, slow the

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Speaker 1: games are taken four hours. Well, and the key thing

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Speaker 1: here is you're right, there have been other teams that

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Speaker 1: have thrown a similar rule change out there. But remember,

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Speaker 1: two owners, the majority, have to vote in favor of it.

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Speaker 1: And what's happened a lot john not just with judgment calls,

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Speaker 1: but with any rule changes they seem practical, and then,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, the majority of the thirty two

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Speaker 1: competition committee to look at it. The CFL, the Canadian

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Speaker 1: Football League, has already implemented something, but they only allow

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Speaker 1: you one challenge, So that's their way of making coaches

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Speaker 1: this is the way of the NFL meeting in some

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Speaker 1: degree what the CFL is doing well. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if they're looking at the CFL force attle,

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Speaker 1: but I think I think this is something Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: does it well, but the CFL. You can at least

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Speaker 1: look at the CFL. They've done it for they've had

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Speaker 1: it in place for four to five years. You can

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Speaker 1: see how it works, how it affects game flow, and

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Speaker 1: so far, I don't think that hurts at all. One challenge,

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Speaker 1: only one challenge or judgment calls. No one challenge, and

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Speaker 1: that incorporates judgment calls. So I don't see how would

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Speaker 1: that then? Don't to me that's different. Well, they used

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Speaker 1: they changed it to one. So I'm not saying the

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Speaker 1: NFL should do that. Personally, I'm not in favor of

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Speaker 1: the review of judgment close to begin in the CFL.

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Speaker 1: If you get the challenge right, do you get to

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Speaker 1: You could just look at how they go about reviewing it.

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Speaker 1: So those types of specifics I think are reported for

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Speaker 1: don't think there's anything wrong with nobody's saying they have

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't be able to do that. I mean that

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Speaker 1: to me would be absolutely ridiculous. Well, I think you

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Speaker 1: There's got to be a point where you draw a

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Speaker 1: the Saints still had an opportunity to right the wrongs.

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden should ignite judgment calls being reviewed. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's one call, Lens. We've

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Speaker 1: Belichick has been suggesting this for four or five years well,

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Speaker 1: and once again, they never had enough support for it

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Speaker 1: So I agree, I think there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: this will bothers me in the NBA a lot when

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Speaker 1: they do the review in the final. But two minutes,

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Speaker 1: and retroactively call foul, right, but you but then you

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Speaker 1: the NFL, I don't want to just prioritize the final

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Speaker 1: mean they look, if you can't hear with two inches

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Speaker 1: this note, then you should close everything, right absolutely, All right, Paul,

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Speaker 1: let's let's get to your story. Last week, I saw

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Speaker 1: you added the senior Bowl um and then you came

432
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Speaker 1: back and you seem to have a pretty good idea

433
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Speaker 1: of how the Giants were gonna move forward here, specifically

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback position. Why don't you summarize with the

435
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Speaker 1: fans out there what you kind of gleaned as to

436
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 1: what the Giants plans are gonna Bean we've been moving

437
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,640
Speaker 1: forward with with Eli Manning and everything else. The Giants

438
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,159
Speaker 1: are gonna try to figure out this offseason. Well, it

439
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,399
Speaker 1: looks like Eli Manning is not going anywhere. Um, you

440
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 1: know he will be back as the quarterback in two

441
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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. Um. You know that's I think the way

442
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 1: it was sort of headed with what some of past

443
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Speaker 1: Sherman's comments. Dave Gentleman very much took us wait and

444
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Speaker 1: see approach, wanted to really study, look at the film,

445
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 1: looked at you know, every play that Eli had during

446
00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 1: the season, and kind of like take a step back

447
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,239
Speaker 1: and say, you know, can the guy still played? So

448
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 1: I think the Giants believe you can still play? Um,

449
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,119
Speaker 1: I do believe they think he needs more help than

450
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 1: the you know has me did earlier in his career. Uh.

451
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: That's offensive line, that's say Bombardley, that's the receivers, that's

452
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, kind of relying on a on a play

453
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Speaker 1: action passing game. More so now you know the things

454
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Speaker 1: that we saw the last half of last season and

455
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Speaker 1: so M but but the Giants are also very very

456
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Speaker 1: very adamant about Look, for the first time ever, we

457
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Speaker 1: have to address who replaces Eli, and um, you know

458
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 1: they'd like that to come in the draft. Now, this

459
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Speaker 1: is not a great draft for quarterbacks, and I believe

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Speaker 1: the Giants agree with that that it's not a great

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Speaker 1: draft for quarterbacks. So they're not going to just take one,

462
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Speaker 1: either at six or in the second round or whatever

463
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Speaker 1: they do to move up or down. They're not gonna

464
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Speaker 1: just say we have to pick a quarterback, will take

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Speaker 1: one if they like one. Um, I think I think

466
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Speaker 1: the only guy that would be uh possibly worthy of

467
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Speaker 1: the number six pick is Wayne Haston's of Ohio State.

468
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Speaker 1: And he's a guy the Giants will really study and

469
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Speaker 1: look at. You know, the guy's a one year wonder, right,

470
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Speaker 1: He's only played one year of college football, you know,

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Speaker 1: at a starting level and had a fifty touchdown passes

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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. So he's got a big resume

473
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Speaker 1: in in a short resume, and you know, so the

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Speaker 1: Giants will look at that, look at the other options,

475
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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, if they can find someone this

476
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Speaker 1: year too, they can look at and say, we think

477
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Speaker 1: this guy can succeed you I'm manning you know, at

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Speaker 1: some point, probably as early as then, they'll make that move.

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Speaker 1: If not, then they'll just have to wait, because I

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Speaker 1: don't think free agency is what the Giants are looking

481
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Speaker 1: at right now for quarterback. We're talking with Paul Schwartz,

482
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 1: who covers the Giants to the New York Post here

483
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Speaker 1: on Big Blue Kickoff Live. One of the interesting comparisons

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Speaker 1: that you made, Paul in your article was what Kansas

485
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Speaker 1: City did, and I think it's relevant. They had Alex Smith.

486
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes started the two thousand seventeen regular season finale

487
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Speaker 1: after they moved up in the first round, and then

488
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Speaker 1: they ultimately handed him the reins. How closely do you

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Speaker 1: think the Giants looked at what developed in Kansas City

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Speaker 1: as a potential model for ultimately what they want to do. Well, look,

491
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's looking back at it, it's the

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Speaker 1: perfect model. Um Now, now, you know when you when

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Speaker 1: when you make that comparison, when I made that comparison,

494
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Speaker 1: you know, every well, yeah, yeah, sure, if you can

495
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Speaker 1: get me the next Patrick Mahomes, that's fine that the

496
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: Giants don't think there's a Patrick Mahomes in this draft.

497
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Speaker 1: But um, you know, the whole feeling that you have

498
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Speaker 1: to draft a guy and he has to start right away. Look,

499
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: the Jets did that with Sam Donald and and that

500
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Speaker 1: was fine. Uh you know, the Cardinals did not do

501
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 1: that with Josh Rosen. The Bills did not do that

502
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Speaker 1: with um, Josh Allen. But those guys played, you know,

503
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Speaker 1: soon into their rookie years. So there are a lot

504
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Speaker 1: of different ways to do it. The Giants certainly know,

505
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Speaker 1: Eli Manning sat for nine games behind Kurt Warner and

506
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Speaker 1: then you know, they finally said, okay, we have to

507
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Speaker 1: you know, have our rookie play at some point, so

508
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: they put him in, um, you know, and then proceeded

509
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Speaker 1: to lose six straight games. So you know, they know

510
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Speaker 1: the the the pitfalls of starting a rookie quarterback. But

511
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Speaker 1: that is you know, that is the perfect scenario. But

512
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Speaker 1: just as I said, there's no Patrick Mahomes in this

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Speaker 1: draft and Alex Smith, it was a solid veteran quarterback.

514
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Speaker 1: Is not Eli Manning. You know, he just did not

515
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Speaker 1: win two Super Bowls or any Super bowls. Uh, you know,

516
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Speaker 1: he's not did not spend his whole career in Kansas City,

517
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Speaker 1: so um, you know, pushing Alex Smith's side was not

518
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Speaker 1: nearly the emotional sentimental strain that it will be for

519
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Speaker 1: Eli Manning. But I think this is the first year

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Speaker 1: that they there's a realization that looks he's not what

521
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Speaker 1: he was. We still thinking can function. We'd like this

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Speaker 1: to be a classy transition, but we need to make

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Speaker 1: this transition if we can, if we can find the

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Speaker 1: guy who would think his words get I guess. Then

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Speaker 1: my follow up question, Paul, if they finished their evaluation,

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Speaker 1: and this is a big if, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they've given Haskins a long enough look yet because

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Speaker 1: he wasn't a senior. He only declared in the middle

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Speaker 1: of January. Um, if they decide no one's worthy for

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Speaker 1: that six pick, and they get the round two, and

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Speaker 1: let's say the two guys they think are worthy of

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Speaker 1: the second round pick got picked late in the first round,

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Speaker 1: that you know, the Daniel Jones, the Drew Lackever else

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Speaker 1: you're talking about, which is very possible that could happen

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Speaker 1: quarterbasket overdrafted, right, would they then be okay? And and

536
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Speaker 1: would they go about trying to maybe gather a lot

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Speaker 1: of assets for the draft so that if they have dubes.

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Speaker 1: I think the Giants they'll be better in they won't

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Speaker 1: be picking six. They'll be picking hopefully in the teams

540
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Speaker 1: or the early twenties. If everything goes the way they

541
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Speaker 1: wanted to, would they try to try to gather some

542
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Speaker 1: assets then so when they get to they have enough

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Speaker 1: ammunition to make a move to get a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: they think could be the next franchise guy. Well, we

545
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Speaker 1: all know, um you know to uh will be there

546
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Speaker 1: from from Georgia. You know they'll they'll be they'll be

547
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Speaker 1: bigger names and probably at Herbert Write a better quarterback

548
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Speaker 1: class in Look, I mean we're seeing the difficulty of

549
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Speaker 1: the Knicks trying to tank, you know, you know what

550
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Speaker 1: I mean. You know, you know, I mean they're doing

551
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: a great job of losing, but you know they have

552
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Speaker 1: a lot of fourteen percent chance to get the first pick,

553
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, uh, the NFL is obviously different. Look, guy,

554
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Speaker 1: unless things go haywire in you know Oregon and Alabama

555
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: and Georgia, you know those quarterbacks are going to be

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Speaker 1: you know, in the top five picks, the three of

557
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Speaker 1: the guys will be taken, and so you know you're

558
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Speaker 1: gonna be there a terrible team again in two thous

559
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Speaker 1: in nineteen. If the Giants or as you said, you're

560
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: gonna have so many assets that still to go from

561
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: eighteen or nineteen up to one or two is very difficult.

562
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: You have to give up the farm. And so that

563
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: that's the phenundrum, is that if they don't like anybody

564
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Speaker 1: in this draft tremendously at quarterback, then what are you

565
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: saying the same good I'm Manning and Alex Tanney and

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Speaker 1: Kyle wi Letta. No, I don't think that that will

567
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Speaker 1: be the trio. But um, it's not easy just to

568
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Speaker 1: find a guy, you know. Will they sign some middling,

569
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Speaker 1: some middling younger veteran. Um, I don't think Tenny Bridgewater

570
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Speaker 1: would be an option. I think, um, you know, his

571
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: knee is just probably not sound enough that the Giants thinking, uh,

572
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Speaker 1: you know. So, So that's the phenundrum. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like if you need a date to the dance, Uh,

574
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Speaker 1: you know, do you do you look for the love

575
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: of your life? For you just ask you know, neighbors

576
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: the street, you know your friends with, But do you

577
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: really rather not dance with us? I mean, it's it's

578
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: a tough one because look, you you make a big

579
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Speaker 1: mistake if you draft if you just say, look, we

580
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Speaker 1: have Dwayne Haskins is the sixteen best respect in this draft,

581
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Speaker 1: so we have to take them. We have to take

582
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Speaker 1: them at six because we need a quarterback. Um, but

583
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Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants will do is you know,

584
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: I hear people saying, well, you may have to go

585
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: up to one if you want Haskins. I mean, I

586
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: think that's at this point in the evaluation process, is

587
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: crazy because he's just not that kind of a prospect

588
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: that you would give up, you know, multiple draft picks,

589
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Speaker 1: maybe your first round pick next year, to move up

590
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: four or five spots to get a quarterback and started

591
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: one year and it is not considered, you know, a

592
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Speaker 1: big time prospect, consisted a solid prospect. So look, there's

593
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Speaker 1: a lot between now and the end of April when

594
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Speaker 1: they draft. It's it's a lot. But they would like

595
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Speaker 1: to find that guy who's next in line. But it's

596
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: not easy. It's admittedly not easy. Well, and to your point, Paul, also,

597
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: stocks are gonna rise and fall for all of these

598
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: quarterbacks as we moved to the combine and even after that,

599
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: leading up to the draft, who would have thought Baker Mayfield,

600
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Speaker 1: for example, would have been taken with the number one

601
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Speaker 1: overall pick last year. And that brings me to another

602
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: quarterback aside from Dwayne Haskins, who is small in stature

603
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: similar to Baker Mayfield, though smaller. That's Tyler Murray. That's

604
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Speaker 1: love from Oklahoma, Paul. And yes, whenever we get an

605
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: opportunity for small jokes, will never turn them down on

606
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: this program. But getting back to the point, Paul, you know,

607
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: Murray is somebody that I think is intriguing within college

608
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: circles in the conversation with respect obviously the Heisman Trophy. Personally,

609
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Speaker 1: I don't think he falls in line with the pro

610
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: typical Giants quarterback who is like an Eli Manning six three,

611
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Speaker 1: six four. But is it possible that they perhaps could

612
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Speaker 1: entertain the idea of looking at somebody that's not necessarily

613
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Speaker 1: in line with where they've gone in the quarterback department

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Speaker 1: in previous years. Round Well, no, in terms of just

615
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Speaker 1: a smaller quarterback who doesn't necessarily have giant quarterback written

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00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: all over him, I guess, is my point. Yeah, yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean you know something in that department, Yeah, yeah,

618
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: you know. Um, so he's a smaller quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: Giants have had. But um, you know, the thing has

620
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: almost become um, you know, it's like it's like, can't

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Speaker 1: say it. I mean, I think Kyler Murray is simply

622
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Speaker 1: too small. I just think he's too small. And when

623
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Speaker 1: you say that, it's almost like you are damning the guy,

624
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: or you know, making a slower at him. That's unfair.

625
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: You know. I'm sure this guy, you know, has heard

626
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: his whole life you're too small, You're too small. Small.

627
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a small high school quarterback, he was

628
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: a very small college quarterback. He'd be a tiny NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And and you name me the quarterback at his size

630
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Speaker 1: who has been a good player. I mean he is

631
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Speaker 1: not Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield, I wouldn't say towers over

632
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Baker Mayfield every bit of six feet Skylon Murray.

633
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is going to be five nine and change

634
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 1: at the most, at the most, I mean, and he's

635
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: he's still more slight and Baker Mayfield. Uh, it's it's

636
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: just a different thing. And so you know, Doug Flutie

637
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: was five ten and was a tremendous player, mostly in

638
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: the CFL right and had a few moments in the NFL,

639
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: but was not a NFL franchise quarterback. And you know,

640
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Speaker 1: I'm not trure Kyler's as good as uh Doug Fluty

641
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: Duck was terrific so in a different era admitted, So, um,

642
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: I just don't think Kyla Murray has assisted as the

643
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: Giants now. I think Kyler Murray's and treating for a

644
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: team that has a quarterback and if you want to

645
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: do a you know, case some hill kind of thing.

646
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: You know, he's a big guy with a small guy

647
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: like Murray, and you know, imagine having him, let's say,

648
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: on the Patriots, okay, or in a team that hasn't

649
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: established big statuesque it's not very mobile quarterback, and then

650
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, on the five yard line on

651
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: the second down, you run Kyler Murray on maybe with

652
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: the big quarterback or not. Now, teams still gonna go Haywire.

653
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: You got pitch it to him. He can throw it,

654
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: he can option, he can do a lot of things.

655
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: Now that puts a lot of strain on your coaching

656
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: staff to to coach a whole different you know, put

657
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: in a whole different system. But I think that's where

658
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: maybe Kyler Murray could be interested in the NFL, but

659
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: that's not somebody drafted in the first round and you

660
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: know after the first round, he won't make four point

661
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: six million, Garren Key, like you will in baseball. And

662
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: that's another thing that um, you know, after the first round,

663
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Colin Murray is stropping gonna go play baseball. So you know,

664
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: financials come into this certainly. So there's a lot here

665
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: with Colin Mury, but I don't think any of its

666
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: Giants joined by Paul Schwartz in the New York Post,

667
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: couple more questions for him, Paul want to jump off

668
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback bad langon for a second? How active do

669
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: you think the Giants are gonna be in free agency

670
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: this year? From looking outside of the organization, not talking

671
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: about you know, resigning Landon Collins and things like that.

672
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: Do you think they'll try to get a big, high

673
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: price player. Are they gonna try to you know, maybe

674
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: not sharpen the bargain isisle, but it go for more

675
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: middle of the road, reasonably placed priced players to try

676
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: to fill out their roster rather than making that big splash. Well,

677
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: I think I think if it's if it's a high

678
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: price guy will be a pass rusher. And those guys

679
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: are so high price, yeah, you know, de Ford, I mean,

680
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: these guys are so high priced they will. I mean,

681
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: I think the only way you can do that if

682
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: you if you part ways with Olivia Turning, Um, you know,

683
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: to to to eat some of that or part raised

684
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: with you I'm adding, which I don't think they're doing so. Um.

685
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: And you know the whole thing with Vernon, you know,

686
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: he's their best pass rusher. I mean, it's just no

687
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: question about it. Now. Whether he's good enough to command

688
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: that money, there's certainly a question and the answer is

689
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: probably no. But um, if you get rid of him

690
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: now you have to replace him and add one or

691
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: two more pass rushers. So it might just make sense

692
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: to keep him. And and you know, look, this is

693
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: what happens in free agency. Two years ago, they basically

694
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: tried to buy at expense and it works for one year,

695
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: and they overpaid to three players. One of them is

696
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: no longer on the team and Snax Harrison and the

697
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: other two have had their moments and are generally considered overpaid.

698
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: That's what free agent he does. When you shop at

699
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 1: the highest levels, you overpay. Um. You know, someone once

700
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: told me every player who's a free agent gets on

701
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: the open market for a reason. Uh, and you know,

702
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: only some of those reasons are because your own team

703
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: can't afford you. Most teams that love the black loved

704
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 1: their own home bone player d a way to keep them.

705
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: Don't think they think they they signed them early. They

706
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: find a way to keep them. And there's the reason

707
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: why these guys should be open market. So you have

708
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: to be careful. You really have to be careful. So

709
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: I think the Giants will add a bunch of free agents,

710
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know if any upmobi a quote unquote

711
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: big ticket guys. They need depth on their rosters. They

712
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: need to keep on building the culture with good guys,

713
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: solid guys, guys who can be potential starters and and

714
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: things like that. So uh yeah, I I you know,

715
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: they don't have a ton of money, but they have

716
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: enough money. They'll have a middle you know, middle range

717
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: amount of money. And as we've seen, this is a

718
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: rebuilding team. You know, they they completely overhaul the roster

719
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: last year and uh they finished five and eleven, so

720
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: they're not done by any stretch. And you're right, Paul,

721
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: most players are given the franchise tag or some other tag,

722
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: or given extensions before they even hit free agency. You

723
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: don't necessarily see those impactful guys you're right reach the

724
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: market where all of a sudden you can steal them away.

725
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Now you brought a pass rusher, and I think most

726
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: would agree that certainly is a priority in free agency.

727
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: Though if we put that position aside, Paul, when you

728
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: look at somebody to play next to Landon Collins, assuming

729
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: Landon Collins comes back at the other safety position and

730
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: the right side of the offensive line, considering they did

731
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: bring in Jamal Brown, but you got Chad Wheeler at

732
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: right tackle, what to you is the bigger priority for

733
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: them to address, whether it be free agency, of the draft,

734
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: the other safety position, or the right side of the

735
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yes, everything, they need it all well, well,

736
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: well look, the best way to get a pass rushers,

737
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: to draft them all is doing because if they're on

738
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: the open market, their their stars and they make big money,

739
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: or you're overpaying for a guy, or you're you know,

740
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: it's a winging a prayer like the giant stupid kind

741
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: of bar with uh, you know, a solid NFL veteran

742
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: who has had some success as a pass rusher, and

743
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: just you know, Billy no success once he came to

744
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: the Giants. You're hoping you can, you know, have a

745
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: little have a little something left in the tank. So

746
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: the best thing to do is to take on a

747
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: number six if he's there. You know, if you don't

748
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: go quarterback, you know, this is a good draft for

749
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: pass rushers. If the Giants aren't taking the quarterback, they

750
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: hope someone trades up ahead of them to take a quarterback.

751
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: So you know, you dropped one of those past rushers

752
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: down because that's the best way. That's the way you

753
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: get Michael stray Hand, and the way you get Eura,

754
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: and the way you get Matthias Ki Manuka and Jason

755
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: Pierre Paul drafted in the first round and Justin Tuck. Yes,

756
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: just such even lower third round. So you know, if

757
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: you can identify those guys, they they they they after

758
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: the first round. They were cheap even in the first round. Uh,

759
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's a barking compared to what you have

760
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: to pay for those guys in the open market. So

761
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: I think that's number one. I mean, uh uh, I

762
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: know for a fact that Giants are not done addressing

763
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: the offensive line and specifically the right side of the line.

764
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: They know they need to upgrade there. And I think

765
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: you're really looking at the right tackle because I think

766
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: they can maybe signed Jerman Brown back to play right guard,

767
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: but they're not going to give him the Earth, Brington

768
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: and the moon that's all overse to it. He was

769
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: an upgrade for them, but um, you know, I think

770
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: Jerman Brown has to be your fourth or best offensive

771
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: linement and then you're you're building the line. So you know,

772
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to go into next season

773
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: with Chad reill Or as the starting right tackle. Um,

774
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: you know, can you find one in the second round?

775
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: Can you maybe find one in the first round? If

776
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: you don't go pass rusher? Uh? Can you sign a

777
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: guy who's uh a solid player on the way up?

778
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 1: You know, I mean kind of You know, they swung

779
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: and miss badly with Patrick Oma made, so you know,

780
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: maybe they have to they have to swing and connect

781
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: this time with you know, a younger veteran maybe who

782
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: can move in a right tack. Oh. Look, I mean

783
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: when you you just have one guy, it only solves

784
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: one problem potentially, and not five. When you're five and eleven,

785
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: you have a lot of problems, so you have to

786
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: methodically try to get better piece by piece because, uh,

787
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, if I tell you pass rusher is the

788
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: number one, you may tell me free safety is the

789
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: number one, and plants may say, um no, it's got

790
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: to be at right tackle. And you know, I think

791
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: we're all right, absolutely, Paul, final one from me and

792
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: I'll swing it back to the super Bowl. I think

793
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: we've covered most of the big giant topics for the offseason.

794
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: Just your feel for kind of you know, how these

795
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 1: two teams are dealing with the week. It's the first

796
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: time for a lot of the people from the Rams.

797
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: The Patriots is obviously just a another year of the

798
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and whatever no worries you've you've been, You've

799
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: been to a ton of these games. What's your feel

800
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: for how these two teams are handling this experience over

801
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: the course of this week so far, early on the

802
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: Patris and let the way they always handle it, which is,

803
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: as you said, it's this is a business trip. They

804
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: expect to be here. They know every inch of every

805
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: of every layout of everything they do with the week

806
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: is about you know, Bill Belichick will give you what

807
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: gives you you know, Tom Brady actually is pretty good

808
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: in these venues. You know, he has some fun with it.

809
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: I think he tires out of goes on. You know,

810
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: he starts gearing up for the game. But you know

811
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: he's he's good at these settings. He's he's kind of open.

812
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: He has some fun with it. He talks about his background,

813
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: he you know, and and to change some off the

814
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: wall questions at times. You know, Bill Belichick is not

815
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: um and he just basically it's amazing and a room

816
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: full of people. When somebody asked him a question um

817
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: that he doesn't like, he just literally doesn't answer, you know,

818
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: just ignores them. I think some guy yesterday, uh said, coach,

819
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: can I come up and take a selfie with you?

820
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: You know? You know that that what you get here

821
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl sometimes and and Belichick didn't even

822
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: say yes or no, just kind of like stared into

823
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: space until the guy was like shamed into not doing anything.

824
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: You know. I mean he wasn't funny or wasn't he said,

825
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: if it's just intelligence, um, you know, it's very very

826
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: has his own neck now. Uh. Conversely, Sean McVeigh seems

827
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: to really be doing well here. He speaks quickly. He's interesting.

828
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: You know, he's just turned thirty three. Uh, you know,

829
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: it's it's just, you know, it's very youthful. You know,

830
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: it's a good looking guy gets behind that podium and

831
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: you know, speaks well about a lot of different subjects.

832
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: He's very expansive about his players, about his culture. Um,

833
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, doesn't try to um, you know, beat his

834
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: chest too much about him getting here. You know, pays

835
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: great homage to guys like the Walsh and Mike Shanahan

836
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: and um, you know the people of the bruten family,

837
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: you know, who go all up and very his grandfather,

838
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, uh, John mcveigh's grandfather obviously is a big

839
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: time executive before the Niners. Uh. So you know, there's

840
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot there with him and I think

841
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: players Jack Cross is very little got a little bit

842
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: of you in them, kind of land up there, you know,

843
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: says things simply, matter of fact ly, very unflustered. Uh. Um,

844
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: you know, doesn't seem to enjoy it. But the guy

845
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: that doesn't look like he's gonna sweat a whole lot,

846
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, so that you know, it's a full customer

847
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: on the game. And he also is in these settings

848
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: to and uh, um, you know, I think their Rams

849
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: are okay, but you know their first timers and uh,

850
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, first time is often to not fare well

851
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: on the Sundays of these games. We're talking with Paul Schwartz,

852
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: who covers the Giants of New York post last one.

853
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: For me, Paul, I think overshadowing Super Bowl fifty three

854
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: is of course still the overreaction to the ending of

855
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: the Saints Rams game and whether or not the League

856
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: is going to review judgment calls moving forward. So everybody

857
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: obviously is anticipating Roger Goodell's press conference. What type of

858
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: information do you think Adele is going to provide considering

859
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: the league has yet to formally address the ending of

860
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: the Saints Rams game, And how likely do you think

861
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: that the league will vote in favor of reviewing judgment

862
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: calls moving forward? Well, um, you know, I don't know

863
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: the answer to those questions. Um, you know, Roger Goodell

864
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: could have could have certainly eased off some of this

865
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: anticipation of today's press come. It's by issuing a statement

866
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: on Monday or Tuesday, like the LEE should have. You know,

867
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: you just issue a statement saying that you made the

868
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: mistakes and moving on. Uh you know, I mean I

869
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: could have written that statement in five minutes and it

870
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: would have been a solid statement. Uh. You know that

871
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: we made a mistake. We have to Uh, you know,

872
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: the integrity of our game is the most important thing

873
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: we have. If we lose that, we don't have a game.

874
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: We want to assure the fans that we'll do everything

875
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: I can we can to make sure this does not

876
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: happen again. You know when we will review all options

877
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: to see the FESTI way to move forward with this

878
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: and you know, built have a great Super Bowl. I

879
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: mean it's not a hard statement to make, but the league,

880
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: for some reason, chose not to make it. So now

881
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: it's all on Roger cadell Um. I think it's very

882
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: difficult to say they're going to institute a policy where

883
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: you can challenge non calls. I mean, the thing is, people,

884
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: this don't forget this was a non call. This This

885
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: was not a call that needed to be rehearsed. This

886
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: was a call was not made. So if you open

887
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: up this Pandora's box to say, now, any coach at

888
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: any point and a play can can put a challenge

889
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: flag or somebody can buzz down to New York and say,

890
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: we want you to check out this play for what

891
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: so we think are less. We think our defensive end

892
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: was held by the by the left tackle that you're

893
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: gonna be able to challenge that it was a blatant hole.

894
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: They didn't call it. I mean, that's not more agreed

895
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: justus than what happened in New Orleans or you know,

896
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: as guys running down the field, Well, um, O'Dell, O'Dell

897
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: got grabbed at the seventeen yard line. You didn't call it.

898
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: So we want you to look at that. These are

899
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: calls not made. So I don't know if that's gonna

900
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: every case. Now, Um, you know, it was a very

901
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: very very bad non call. I believe it. You know,

902
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: sometimes it plays a factor in the game. I think

903
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: this decidy. I think they're the Saint sort of random

904
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: all three times and kick the field goal and won

905
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: the game, and they would be in the super Bowl

906
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: here and that did not happen. So you know, some

907
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: of this is human era. That was a really bad

908
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: one area of omission by two official who should have

909
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: thrown the flag. So I don't know. I think it's

910
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: a slippery slope when you start saying, um, we're gonna

911
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: make sure this never happens again, and anybody can challenge anything.

912
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: You know, that's gonna be rough. What's your final score

913
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: for the game, Paul, who do you got? You know,

914
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: I haven't even said I knew you guys are gonna ask.

915
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the Patriots to win. Um um, I'm

916
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: gonna pick him to win a close game. UM, I

917
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: give you one right now. I would say something like

918
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: thirty one. The Patriots never blow out anybody in the

919
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I mean just never. I mean, it's an

920
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: incredible legacy of of you know, they could have easily,

921
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: not easily, but they could have beaten the Giants twice,

922
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: and they did not. I'm not saying they should have,

923
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: but they could have. They certainly should have lost to

924
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: the Seattle um Seahawks, and they really should have lost

925
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: to the Founton to just self uh self destroyed. So

926
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, they are right on the edge of every

927
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl they play. It's really uncanny for a franchise

928
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: that is so dominant to just not dominate the Super Bowls.

929
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: But you know, when certainly, uh you know, more than

930
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: the FS shows Paul, good stuff, enjoy it Anta. Will

931
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: you be there for the game? Are you coming home

932
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: before the game gets played? No? No, no, I don't

933
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: come home until the Lombardy And it can't be done

934
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: without Paul Schwartz there, Paul, We appreciate it, man, enjoy

935
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: the rest of your weekend. We'll talk to you down

936
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: the road a right, and we'll see it the combine.

937
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: Thanks Paul. Later, Paul Shortz in the New York Post,

938
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: very good information from the Super Bowl and talking about

939
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: the Giants with the quarterback situation, and it's funny, Um,

940
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: curly Paul got information from somewhere. Obviously we don't ask

941
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: about sources things like that, um, but amazingly enough, and

942
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that when we talk about this stuff,

943
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: nobody's telling us what to say. But pretty much what

944
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: he said about how they approached the quarterback situation is

945
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: what we've been saying on the show for the better

946
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: part of a month and a half or two three

947
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: months for that matter. And I don't think it takes

948
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: a rocket scientists also to figure that one. It doesn't.

949
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't in terms of them exploring their options, but

950
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: at the same time weighing what Eli Manning can do

951
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: with this offense and with help around Tim versus going

952
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: after a free agent that may not really provide that

953
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: much of a difference. And I mean, these are all

954
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: practical things that any team is going to do. And

955
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, the other thing that Paul mentioned is just

956
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: because they want to find the linemanning successor John doesn't

957
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: mean that they're automatically gonna find it in the draft

958
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: or reach for a quarterback with a top ten pick two.

959
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: And also need to keep that in consideration. What was

960
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: the conversation we had in two thousand seventeen in the

961
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: off season. It's not easy to find your next quarterback,

962
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: So when you have the opportunity to do it, you

963
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: have to think long and hard about passing up that

964
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: opportunity because you never know when it's going to come

965
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: around again. But you also have to have faith in

966
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: that quarterback. I'm with you, you're not guaranteed to pick

967
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: six seven, whatever. But at the same time, you don't

968
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: just say to yourself, well, we need a quarterback. We

969
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: need to find the successor. We're picking high, so let's

970
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: just take the quarterback. And then the number one rated

971
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: quarterback in that year's class is nothing compared to the

972
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: group that just came out last year. Potentially, I'm just

973
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: speculating here, I'm not saying that that's true. So if

974
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: that's a hypothetical situation, then you're basically getting the sixth

975
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: or the seventh best quarterback from the previous year's class.

976
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: Does that put you in any better position John to

977
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: have your quarterback for the future, Which is why it's

978
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: so hard to find your next quarterback. Those guys aren't

979
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: always available. There aren't three or four guys that are

980
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: good coming out in every draft class. You can go

981
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: two or three years where you get no real good

982
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coming out, and it's just the way it goes.

983
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: And then if you love a guy, well, what happens

984
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: to the team that's picking first overall also wants that guy.

985
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: There's no way for you to go and get him.

986
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: It's literally impossible, Like we talked about it, when the

987
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: culture picking one and Payton Manning was available, or and

988
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: you look for that matter, you could have offered them

989
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: anything in the world, literally anything in the world. You

990
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: would not even able the pride that draft pick out

991
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: of their fingers. No chance. So there's no guarantee you're

992
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: gonna be able to go up and get that get

993
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: etch one. Well. And here's another example. There was the

994
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: year Jamis Winston and Marcus Mariotta were picked one and two,

995
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: and I would say, I think the jury the jury

996
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: is still out, and I don't think it's either guy

997
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: made a Pro Bowl. I don't think so, right or

998
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: or maybe they have after three eyes draft. But I

999
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: don't know if the Tom hand's possible. But you know,

1000
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: I think both of those teams are still sort of

1001
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: assessing where their ad Mariot is dealt with injuries. Winston

1002
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: now with Bruce Arians, we'll see if he can turn

1003
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: the corner. But you know, so there's an example where Okay,

1004
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: at the time, everybody thought, hey, they're making the right choice.

1005
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that it was a dreadful choice,

1006
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that the Bucks and Tennessee or

1007
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: in any better position in terms of solidifying the quarterback position.

1008
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: So just because you take the quarterback, there's nothing that's

1009
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: guaranteed in the NFL draft. I will tell you that,

1010
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. The two thousand eleven and

1011
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: NFL Draft was one of the best drafts I think

1012
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: in the history of the league, and you would Von Miller,

1013
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius, A. J. Green, Patrick Peterson, Julio Jones, Tyrant Smith, J. J. Watt, Uh,

1014
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: Mike Pounds, Ryan Carragan, Nate Solder. I mean, look at

1015
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: these guys that are just really good players in the

1016
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 1: NFL Okay mix the Monks. That group is Jake Locker,

1017
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: Blame Gabbard, and Christian Ponder in the top twelve picks.

1018
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: There you go, and those three being behind Cam. It

1019
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: was the first one. So after Cam, clearly and again

1020
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: tremendous drop off, you were not getting that pick from

1021
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: the Panthers, even if you wanted Cam, they were not

1022
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: going to give you that pick on there any circumstances

1023
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: that they were just not going to do it. Yeah,

1024
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: and you can't just say, all right, well, let's just pick.

1025
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of fans say, oh, well, you know,

1026
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: Haskins is the best guys there at six. You gotta

1027
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: make sure you get him right. No, if you don't

1028
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: think he's the guy, and I've watched two games off

1029
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: his by the way of Friday, I'll have my full

1030
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: report with Jeff Eagles. That's a tease what you call

1031
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: him the business um. But if you don't think he's

1032
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: the guy. You do not pick him at six. You're

1033
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: not trade up to get him. And my initial reaction

1034
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: from watching two games, both games both to be two

1035
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: of his better games, he's not as good as the

1036
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: guy's the top last years class. Well, but again I

1037
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: have a lot more to watch him, not close to

1038
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: being done. But that's my initial reaction well, and my

1039
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: reaction from him since watching him. I don't think he's

1040
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: better than Baker, and I wouldn't even necessarily put him

1041
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: ahead Sam Donald. Do I think that he still would

1042
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: crack probably the top five of last year's class. I

1043
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: don't think that's necessarily a stretch. I think that's fair.

1044
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: But I once again I think if you're picking a quarterback,

1045
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: and you know most executives can share these stories, you

1046
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: go around the room, you ask your scouts, you ask

1047
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, your vps and so forth. And if in

1048
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: last year's class everybody had a different quarterback. One guy

1049
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: wanted Sam, one guy wanted Baker, then I think you

1050
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: gotta think twice about whether or not you should truly

1051
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: take a quarterback. Yeah, you want a consensus. So it's

1052
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: it's now this year, maybe it's a little bit different

1053
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: because you don't have the same amount of substance. But

1054
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: if you go around the room and it's an offensive lineman,

1055
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman and Dwayne Haskins, and the answers are

1056
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: across the board and there's very few people that are

1057
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: on board with Dwayne Haskins, that once again, my same

1058
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: answer would be, like last year, then I don't think

1059
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: you should go in the direction of picking Dwayne. Yeah,

1060
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: what happens if and I don't know what happened last year?

1061
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: What happens if last year the front office like one quarterback,

1062
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: the coaching staff wanted a different quarterback and they're like,

1063
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: oh boy, and everyone had stake Kwon Barkley ready to

1064
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: higher than all the quarterbacks. Then that you're gonna go

1065
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: pick a quarterback, what are you gonna do? You're gonna

1066
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: flip a coin to determine who gets the edge in

1067
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: terms of the quarterback debate. I don't think that's one

1068
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 1: stand very good logic. So you go with the player

1069
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: that everybody agrees is going to be an impactful player,

1070
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: has the opportunity to be a Hall of Famer, and

1071
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: you're all on board. So that even if you look

1072
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: back and it doesn't work out, you can say, hey,

1073
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: we did our homework. That was the consensus agreement, and

1074
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: Winstead made the Pro Bowl replaced Tom Brady or was

1075
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: that not an a f C NFC split that ye

1076
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: teams remember, split up the rosters and then they came

1077
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: back to this, so that Britty was probably like the

1078
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: sixth quarterback. That's why. By the way, folks, when you

1079
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: go do look at Hall of Fame credentials, don't look

1080
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: at Pro Bowl elections there at this point almost irrelevant

1081
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: is a different story. All right, We got two calls,

1082
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: want to get him in. Sprought to you by Corps Light.

1083
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: Download the Corps Light Awards after an amazing Giants Prizes

1084
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: Lenning Columbia, Maryland has been holding since it started the show.

1085
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: We appreciate a lens. Sorry I didn't get to you sooner.

1086
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: Good morning. Oh that's okay. John Schwartz has been around

1087
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: a long time. He knows a lot about the Giants

1088
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: and sir, it's it's always a you know, always a

1089
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: good listen. And the one thing that he didn't say

1090
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: that pleased to me, he didn't he didn't talk about

1091
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: Eli mentoring for a year before the other guy well, Len,

1092
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: want to I want to pause you, Lenn, I want

1093
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: to pause you. He did write that in his article,

1094
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: and he gave that as an example where if they

1095
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: do draft a guy like Haskins. Similar in, Lance mentioned

1096
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: this to the what the Chiefs did with Mahomes, that

1097
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: there could be a situation where Eli does mentor someone

1098
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: if they do draft somebody this year in the draft.

1099
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: So I think that would be on the table. According

1100
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: to Paul, you know, Man, I sorry gonna mentor. I mean,

1101
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: what does he teach Haskins? Um, Well, no, Len, I

1102
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: I think he would teach him how to watch film.

1103
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: I think when he's in a meeting rom with him,

1104
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: he teach him how to look at film, had a

1105
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: breakdown defenses had to properly prepare for an NFL football game.

1106
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: This is a situation where he'll like, you know, put

1107
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: on his little professor hat and you know, go to blackboard.

1108
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: But just from watching how Eli operates, he was one

1109
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: of the best prepared quarterbacks and smartest quarterbacks in the league.

1110
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: I think whatever young quarterbacks around him to learn, it's

1111
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: not Lenn, It's not so much mentoring. It's more of

1112
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: that you have a veteran quarterback around a young quarterback

1113
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: to learn by example. You know, the word mentoring is

1114
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: constantly thrown out. It. It's not like Eli is gonna

1115
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: be looking over his shoulder and holding the guy by

1116
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: his hand and saying, Okay, do this, do that. It's

1117
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: just it's just it's like anything else. If you're a

1118
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: young if you're a young player, you want to see

1119
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: of the centers at the he was done. I do

1120
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: appreciate it you're doing that, John, I take it from

1121
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: what you said. I did. I did hear it, And um,

1122
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: you think the kids from North Carolina State might not

1123
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: that he's going to be the sure the sure bet

1124
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: at at pick thirty seven. Um, you know, thirty seventh

1125
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: pick of the draft. But do you think he's there

1126
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: at thirty seven? John, Oh, you mean Bradberry the center? Yeah,

1127
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance he's there at thirty seven.

1128
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if there's a center that's good enough

1129
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 1: to be a first round pick this year, and usually,

1130
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: Lenn Frankly, centers don't get picked in the first round

1131
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: very often. Last year, wasn't right? Right? Right? Yeah? No,

1132
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: you know absolutely. I was just wondering whether he you

1133
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: thought he might be there at thirty seven, and I

1134
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: take it the kids from Mississippi State drinkinsho. You don't

1135
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: think he's even a second round pick. Um. I don't

1136
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: have enough information on him yet. I I thought he

1137
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: played well at the Senior Old, but I don't feel

1138
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: comfortable putting around on him right now. Okay, okay, Um.

1139
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the Rams on Sunday, but I you know,

1140
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. But I think I think

1141
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots are gonna win. I think You're discussion with

1142
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: Paul regarding experience is uh is going to turn out

1143
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: to be very important. I mean, those guys just know

1144
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: how to handle the big stage and not that the

1145
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: Ramstone and I'm just thinking first time around. UH. You know,

1146
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: they may be wide eyed and not not quite ready

1147
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: for what the big stage brings. But I'm you know,

1148
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the game, and you know i'd

1149
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: like to see the Rams win. Um. Lance, you you

1150
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: have been a big proponent Um over the last year

1151
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: and a half. I guess on the ELI talk on

1152
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: the successor to Eli as reminding everybody, and I think

1153
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: you're right on this that Eli's successor doesn't necessarily have

1154
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 1: to go from the draft. I mean it may come

1155
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, the trade route, or it may come uh yeah,

1156
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: for free agency and so forth. I'm gonna throw out

1157
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: a couple of names to you some guys who hung

1158
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: around NFL rosters this year who I think have some

1159
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: potential to be really good quarterbacks in the NFL. One

1160
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: is on the Patriots. He didn't make the roster, didn't

1161
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: make the fifty three. He's on their practice squad. We

1162
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,959
Speaker 1: saw him last preseason game of the year. Um. Last

1163
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: year Patriots Giants at Giants Stadium. A guy named Danny Etling.

1164
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: He was their seventh round in the preseason game. And

1165
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: he's um, he's got some potential. And there's a guy

1166
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: hanging around the Vikings roster Kyle Stoller. Uh. He didn't

1167
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: make their roster, he didn't make their fifty three. He's

1168
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: actually a second year player, undrected free agent by Denver

1169
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: the year before. But those two guys, to me have

1170
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: had to have shown enough in preseasons that, man, I

1171
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: my eye opened. If there was an opportunity to pick

1172
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: one of those two guys, the Giant's gonna pick the

1173
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: bed only at anytime they wanted. Last year, if he

1174
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: was on the Patriots practice squad, there's no opportunity if

1175
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: they wanted and they could have had him. Okay, Okay,

1176
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: that's that's true. He was, he was there all year

1177
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: and um, you know, we had our attention on Kyle

1178
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: Letta and uh you know, and you know we took

1179
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: a liking to Tanny and so forth and kept him

1180
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 1: over web. I understand all of that. I'm just throwing

1181
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: out a couple of names here for you guys. Um,

1182
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: maybe somewhere down the line, we're gonna see these guys

1183
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL. We're going to see him playing regularly.

1184
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: Thank you. They both have some potential. M appreciate that.

1185
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: We gotta run line. If you want to get more

1186
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: in the game, you can give us a call the

1187
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: next couple of days. We'll do a lot more in

1188
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Then. Well, just real quickly, let me

1189
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: be clear, I was not going down the route of

1190
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: finding practice squad players tweets. I think Lenn was gonna

1191
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: go on the opposite edge of the spectrum. Yes, I

1192
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: did say that you don't necessarily have to find the

1193
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: success with the draft and the exam, but that I

1194
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: constantly bring up, which hits home with the Giants is

1195
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: when you know, Jim Fossil was here and they got

1196
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: Carry Collins. And now granted Collins had some off the

1197
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: field issues and you know, didn't necessarily have as much

1198
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: interest and opportunity around the league. You have a guy

1199
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 1: that was looking to re establish himself. Jim Fossil tweaked

1200
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: this technique and he thrived here. I think he's one

1201
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: of the most underrated free agent signings and Giants franchise

1202
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: hit absolutely sure. I agree with that, so that that

1203
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: was really where I was going at. But I was

1204
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: necessarily thrown out Danny at Lens rarely and Carry Collins

1205
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: only became available because his off the field problems, something

1206
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: that happens every single year in the NFL. No, I'm

1207
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: not going to disagree with you there. Correct if a

1208
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: guy is not that similar to Carry Collins, like for example,

1209
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 1: let's say Jamis Winston was clean off the field, okay,

1210
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: or the Giants maybe more comfortable with him off the field,

1211
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: which I don't think that's true, but let's just throw

1212
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: out their potential whatever. And you know, Bruce arians decides

1213
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: this year that I can't win with this guy. He's

1214
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: on his at the er option. They haven't signed to

1215
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: an extension yet, right, and they say, right, bye bye,

1216
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: that's the guy that would take And I think you

1217
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: have to pay more than just flyer money, but I

1218
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: think that that would be the type of guy. We're like,

1219
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: all right, you know, Marcus Mariot, maybe the Titans saying

1220
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,479
Speaker 1: maybe we don't think he's the next guy, and maybe

1221
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: roll dice on him. If the Cowboys decide that they

1222
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: don't want to bring Dak Prescott back, if they ever

1223
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: really down to year last year, he's on the last

1224
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: year of his rookie deal, somebody like that. But again,

1225
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: those guys don't generally become available. Christian in New York

1226
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: is the next Christian Line? Three? What's going on? Hey, guys,

1227
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: I know it's the end of the show, so I'll

1228
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: make it quick. I'll talk about one thing. This is

1229
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: kind of a gut feeling of mine. I think Eli

1230
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: Manning is very seriously considering retiring this year. I think

1231
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: maybe other years he thought about it like a little,

1232
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: but I think this year it's really, uh, he's really

1233
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: considering it, and I don't think the team is going

1234
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: to be able to get good enough around him for

1235
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: him to make a serious run ever again. And I

1236
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: think he kind of thinks that too. And I'd like

1237
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: to know if you guys think he's, you know, really

1238
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: considering retiring, I honestly don't um and I'm more And

1239
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: Paul said, I, did you know things that he'd rather

1240
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: retire than go play for another team. I don't think

1241
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: that choice is going to be in front of him

1242
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: this year. Uh. Much like Paul Schwartz we are on

1243
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, he likes to play football. This

1244
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: is his life. He loves preparing for games. That's what

1245
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: he loves to do. What is elim handing to two

1246
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: if he's not playing? And I think at least talking

1247
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: to Eli at the end of the year, Lens and

1248
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: we heard him in the media availabilities, he thinks he

1249
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: can still play at a fairly high level. So I

1250
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: don't see it. I think he saw what happened to

1251
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: his brother with the neck and how quickly this could

1252
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: be taken away. And I think he's of the opinion

1253
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: that you play until you can't play anymore, and until

1254
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: you're no longer a good player. And I think he

1255
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: still believes he's a good player well, and to your point,

1256
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: Christian about well, he doesn't think that realistically, he has

1257
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: another run in him. And thank you Christian appreciating realistically.

1258
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean, who thought that in two thousand seven the

1259
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: Giants would have went on that run? Who thought in

1260
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven the Giants would have went on that run? Now,

1261
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get everybody's hopes up, but the

1262
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: point is the NFL is so unpredictable, it's defined by

1263
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: parity that I find it hard to believe that most

1264
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks go into seasons and say to themselves, boy, you know, realistic,

1265
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: we have absolutely no shot. Because the moment you start

1266
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: thinking like that, John, yeah, then he should retire because

1267
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: what's the point of playing football anymore? Yeab, But I

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00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: don't think he believes that. No, And I don't think

1269
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: he believes that either. But I'm just saying for anybody

1270
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: that says that, you know, players look at the team

1271
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: and they look at the roster and like, but this

1272
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: team has absolutely no shot. How many people thought, you

1273
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: know that the Bears would make a tremendous turn around

1274
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: like they did, especially with the young quarterback. You just

1275
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: don't know. They get Khalil Mack things trigger defense turns

1276
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: things around. There's so much unknown in the NFL. Yeah,

1277
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: this is in the NBA, where where you've got four

1278
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: or five teams that you know realistically have a shot

1279
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: to win a championship. Yeah, and you know the bottom

1280
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: seven or eight have no chance of making the playoffs.

1281
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: And like you know, your Anthony Davis. You look at

1282
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: the Pelicans, You're like, they have no cap space for

1283
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: the next three years. There's literally no way for you

1284
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: to add good players. So I'm want to get tech

1285
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: out of So going to the Knicks makes a lot

1286
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: of sense into those circumstances. Is not my suggestion. I'm

1287
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: just throwing that out there. You know, Pelicans, Nick's huge disparity. Anyway,

1288
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: let's get back on some drink here. Yeah, the Bulls

1289
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: are the Bulls are doing a lot better, by the way, Well,

1290
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: they're having a fine year of hardware though. Over the court.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, rings Charlie. Okay, great, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, please

1292
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: annoy Lance for me. Go ahead. He just got everything

1293
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: the truth, that's all annoy Lance. Yeah, he doesn't have

1294
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: to try hard to do that, he doesn't. Go ahead, Charlie. Hey,

1295
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: they carry Collins this year or this year coming up

1296
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: is Flacco. He's the guy who's got a chip on

1297
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: his shoulder. He feels he can still play at a

1298
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: high level. And that is the carry cons If we're

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00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: going to go in that direction, that is the dude.

1300
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: But Charlie, here's the thing. The Giants weren't going from

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00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,959
Speaker 1: a player of you line man is caliber to carry towns.

1302
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: You know you. I'm just saying, but they were going

1303
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: from the unknown. Well, no, I don't disagree with your parallel,

1304
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: but I would say that if the Giants go in

1305
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: the direction of Joe Flacco, then we're gonna have people

1306
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: like you call in and tell us that Will Beatty

1307
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: is needed to help Joe Flacco have the ability to

1308
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: throw down the field. And by the way, he is

1309
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: always going to be needed unless and he's always going

1310
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: to be available. And Charlie, by the way, and I

1311
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: know maybe some people will agree with me, some people

1312
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: won't even at his age. If you throw age out

1313
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: the window, I'd rather Veli manning quarterback in my team

1314
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: than Joe Flacco. Yeah, I would too. I mean, I'm

1315
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: just saying that healthy first CALLI might retire. I'm saying

1316
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 1: if he retired, I would go, but just a couple

1317
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: of things. One thing is I was so right on this.

1318
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: Wentworth wanted to be a giant. Doesn't even know his

1319
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: correct name, by the way. He wanted to keep Mr Flowers,

1320
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: who was a bust, and he wouldn't admit he was

1321
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: a bust. And we could have had what earth which

1322
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: I was saying backs and for two years ago, And

1323
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: I was right, Charlie cap space. Charlie cap Space was

1324
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: a problem and his age was a problem. Those were

1325
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: the reasons the Giants didn't go after the guys. Not

1326
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: they didn't think he was a good player. No, the

1327
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: problem was as they kept Flowers, they didn't Jerry Reef

1328
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: didn't want to admit his ego, wanted to admit that

1329
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: he made a mistake. And man Flowers was a bust

1330
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: from day one. This guy was going to be a bust. Charlie,

1331
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: we gotta go man, thank you, And look, would the

1332
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: Giants have been better if they signed Wentworth? Of course,

1333
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: and he's not j G. Wentworth. He said, you went work, okay, um,

1334
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: but no one would question that the Giants would have

1335
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: been a better team if they would have signed him.

1336
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: We said that at the time he was a top

1337
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: free agent left tackle on the market. We knew that

1338
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: he's also thirty seven years old for a team that

1339
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: was coming, you know, for a team like the Giants

1340
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: who they were coming off the playoff year against the

1341
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: Packers that you and he was a free agent and

1342
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: also coming off the year where they spent a lot

1343
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: of money the previous offseason. John, And that's where I

1344
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: was called the defensive players. I didn't mean to take

1345
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: the words out, no, I mean that I think it

1346
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: is important to they get the consideration the verne in

1347
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: the Snacks, the Jenkins of the world. You already put

1348
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: all that money investment in defense. So now the question is, yes,

1349
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: you need to upgrade the offensive line, but do you

1350
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: want to now make another big splash on a guy

1351
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: that's up there in age and do you have then,

1352
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: realistically still enough flexibility to address some of the other

1353
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: needs on the team, which clearly there were. They just

1354
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: don't want transpired it and as they got him on

1355
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: a bargain, think what it was a three year they

1356
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: had to throw some money out. Let's see what do

1357
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: we it was a three year contry. They don't have

1358
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: it and they don't have the number, I'll find it

1359
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: real quick here before Wikipedia. That's not helping out plants

1360
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: normally it has the money they usually does, yes, and surprisingly,

1361
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: so look, twelve in the year is not cheap. And

1362
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: when you have a contract like that, by the way,

1363
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: it's shorter, it's from older players, so it's hard to

1364
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, have fun with the cap hits. That's gonna

1365
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: be a twelve million dollar cap. It just is, especially

1366
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: with the signing monus can't be spread over five or

1367
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: six years for these longer deals. So if it's only

1368
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: a three year contract. So again, guys that that that

1369
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: was a cap pishu that offseason. I think that, at

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01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: least in my opinion, that's what the Giants didn't go

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01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: there that that in the age. Yeah. Well, and to

1372
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: be fair, what what Charlie is referring to is WinWord

1373
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: witword I'm gonna call him Wentworth. Whitworth spoke to the

1374
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: media at the Super Bowl and the story was he

1375
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: was going back to his free agency and said that

1376
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: he had honed in on a few teams. New York

1377
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: was one of the teams he was interested in. It

1378
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: didn't seem like there was mutual interest, but there's a

1379
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: distinct difference between him having interest in New York and

1380
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: then even if New York was interested, then getting a

1381
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: deal done to see the Rams came in, they gave

1382
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: him the money. And also big part of that story

1383
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: was he liked the Rams because Sean McVeigh was the

1384
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: head coach and Sean McVeigh worked with Jay Gruden, and

1385
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: Jake Gruden was in Cincinnati where Worth spent his entire

1386
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: career planning to leaving to the Rams. So, once again

1387
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: not saying that there's no validity behind him wanting to

1388
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: come to New York, It's just there's a lot of

1389
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: dynamics that were in play in terms of how that

1390
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: came to fruition with the Rams. Good show, Mr Meadow, absolutely,

1391
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: thank you to Paul Schwartz. Was all brought to you

1392
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: by Corps Light download the Coors Light Awards apt to

1393
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: an amazing Giants Prizes. Thank you for joining us. Everybody

1394
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: tomorrow with Lands and Datino and then Fiegels and I

1395
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: clean up the weekend preview the Super Bowl on Friday.

1396
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: We'll see that everyone. Have a good one, have a

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01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: go on