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Speaker 1: a legion, poet, Welcome to Patriot It's unfiltered. You know

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Speaker 1: how other teams are just kind of reveling in this.

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Speaker 1: It's like finally you know the you know we're getting

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Speaker 1: they're getting their come uppings. You know, every once against us, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I forget that. But I know you're irrelevant and I

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Speaker 1: do not have the highest regard from Mike Florio, as

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Speaker 1: you know. Terry Bradshaw's still alive. By the way, Jackson

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Speaker 1: Smith and Jigbo's ad fenoy last night with the Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: Guess where he's not coming here, He's already here, Like

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Speaker 1: you don't even need to pay for the flight. So

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Speaker 1: he called coaches that he's worked with in the past

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Speaker 1: that he trusts, and that's a problem. But think about Bill,

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Speaker 1: think about it. I'm done thinking about I know, but

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Speaker 1: but think du said what I am trying to say

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Speaker 1: in a much nicer way because I'm just fed up

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Speaker 1: with this bs in Smith the Jing perfect Like there's

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Speaker 1: a million cars I can't afford, right, because you if

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Speaker 1: I'm Mac and I play great this year. I tell

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Speaker 1: the team to go pounce in. Yeah. This is Patriot's Unfiltered,

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Speaker 1: fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome in too, Patriots unfilter.

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Speaker 1: We have a very special show for you today, ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen. As our two dads are away, Paul and

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Speaker 1: Fred are at the very important Hall of Fame meeting,

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Speaker 1: not the Pro Football Hall prestigious, the Patriots Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: So they're over there to catered lunch right now. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure getting to talk about former Patriots greats to decide

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Speaker 1: who will be on the ballot for the fans to

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Speaker 1: go in next So, unfortunately for you guys, that means

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Speaker 1: you're stuck with I can't call us the kids. I'm

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Speaker 1: way too old to be a kid. Do some the kids?

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Speaker 1: All right? I like when to go to Thanksgiving and

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Speaker 1: you get stuck at the kids table, That's all right.

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Speaker 1: I like the kids table. I like all you guys.

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Speaker 1: So who knows that Confers and French Fries coming uncle?

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Speaker 1: That is the cool uncles Hannon at the adult table.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna probably spark some controversies. So, but you're young

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Speaker 1: like it. I just hope I don't spark any controversy

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Speaker 1: here today. Nothing could be worse than what we just heard.

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Speaker 1: And like entroing the show, like I told you so,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep my cool. I'm gonna keep my cool today.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it, not gonna let it get

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Speaker 1: to me. Now, we're definitely gonna get to have it

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Speaker 1: get to him absolutely well. According to Evan's Twitter this morning,

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Speaker 1: he said, the Patriots if they show this much interest

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Speaker 1: to be very upset. Yeah, I'm gonna be crushed. I've

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Speaker 1: been doing breathing exercises like our quarterback, preparing myself for

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Speaker 1: idea of if they don't draft day Flowers. It's just

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Speaker 1: Evan kind of walking down the street and he just sees,

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Speaker 1: Everybody's kind of got some issues with the fans because

427
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 1: the fans vote. The fans are the ones who are

428
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 1: responsible to put these guys in. Yeah, I think Frabel

429
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 1: has a tough time because he is currently the active

430
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: coach of the Titans. Oh have beat the Patriots, and particular, Yeah,

431
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,199
Speaker 1: Brady's last game as a Patriot is a lost to

432
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 1: Mike Frabel. So I think for fans that are specially

433
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 1: maybe more knowledgeable about the team right now and not

434
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 1: necessarily like the early two thousands Patriots teams that he

435
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,719
Speaker 1: played on, might be thinking of more than Mike Frabel

436
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,199
Speaker 1: the Titans coach. And does the optics of putting in

437
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 1: another team's coach into your Hall of Fame's controlling Yeah,

438
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 1: it's a it's a little a little strange. At half

439
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 1: time in the game, I can't believe that you're you

440
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: want Bill Parcels and I can't. I mean want is

441
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: uh want is? Maybe said I want it? Uh, I

442
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 1: would say more, I'm open to get kicked off to

443
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 1: Desmond Howard. He ast me, that was it. That's like

444
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 1: six year old Evan. I knew he was throwing the

445
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: game at that point, Desmond Howard, the greatest returner of

446
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: his generation. In the Super Bowl, when you have a

447
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: lead in the second half and you kick no, yeah, no, no,

448
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: I hear you. And that was right as the game

449
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: you felt like, oh my gosh, we might actually have

450
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: a chance. And now this was like I was I

451
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: think a sophomore in college, and I also had mono

452
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: at the time, so I was a little bit of

453
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: a fever dream. I actually I had mono and pneumonia

454
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 1: at the same time. In college, I was very I

455
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: was very sick. Where you sick? Are you living in

456
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 1: a dorm at that time? Oh yeah? Oh yeah makes

457
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: playing hockey, you know. I just and I played a

458
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: game actually like with it. Yeah, the day before, like

459
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 1: we were up at Hobart up up in upstate New

460
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 1: York and they have like an outdoor rink and I

461
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: was like, I just I am deaf. And we played

462
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: the game. We all played horrible. Remember I remember missing

463
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: like a couple really really good scoring chances too. I'm like, man,

464
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: I just I don't feel terrible. Got back and like

465
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: went to the went to the information Thank you. I

466
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 1: was sick. I almost died. I'll wrap it up quick.

467
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I went to the doctor and they're like,

468
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you are sick, kid, Like you got

469
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: to you gotta go to the doctor. So anyway, yeah,

470
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: that's uh, anyway, that was I wasn't I wasn't born

471
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: for for eighty five obviously, but you know, my dad

472
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: my uncle's you know grandfathers. They would tell me about

473
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: stories about the that Super Bowl, and they were just

474
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: happy to beat in that Super Bowl. And they knew

475
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: they were going to get their blown doors blown off

476
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: by the eighty five Bears. Like there was there up

477
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: three nothing. There was no conversation of whether or not

478
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: they were gonna win that game. But the Packers Super Bowl,

479
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: they they probably should have won the game just the

480
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: way that the game unfolded. And to me, Parcels is

481
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: as much to blame. I mean, Reggie White, like can

482
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: we we don't put a tight end over there, chip them,

483
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: like do something. This is all retroactive because however he's

484
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: so mad about like a little baby Evan getting mad

485
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 1: whipping his blanket. And when I was when I was young,

486
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: and this is this is full off season jus telling

487
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: us about how we was sick in college and I

488
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: was a young and you know, I'd watched I watched

489
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: games at you know, restaurants and bars with my dad

490
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: and we would just go up to the bar. And

491
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: so I would I would like, you know, be like

492
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: six years old and uh and and we we would

493
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: just like go up to the bar and and just

494
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: to see the score and what was going on in

495
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: the game and everything, and I would obviously be spouting

496
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: off takes and some adults would would take it like

497
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: well and be like, oh, this is kind of cute,

498
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: Like this little kid is probably grinding some gears with

499
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: some people, and some adults would be like, who the

500
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: heck is this kid? Like this is ridiculous. So I

501
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: had some some stories where I got into some trouble,

502
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, people getting fed up with a six year

503
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: old telling them that they're wrong so to hear one.

504
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so actually one time, I'll tell you a

505
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: quick story story time. And uh, it was at my

506
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: dad's cousin's wedding, and my parents tell the story better

507
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: than me. But I was in a group of people

508
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: and we were arguing Celtics knicks at the time, like

509
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: that was you know something that was the Knicks were

510
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: actually good back then or something. It was. It was

511
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: enough of arrival ready to argue about it. And my

512
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: parents were somewhere else and I was there by myself

513
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: and my parents like over here somebody being like, yeah,

514
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: there's there's this kid in the other room and he's

515
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: like going toe to toe with the adults about about sports,

516
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 1: and he's he knows what he's talking about, but you know,

517
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: it's I think it's getting under some people's skins. And

518
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: my dad just looks at my mom and goes, I'll

519
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: be right back, it goes, and I'm just sitting in

520
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: there holding court, like all these people are around me,

521
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 1: and I'm just like telling them that, you know, they're

522
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: idiots or whatever. So you got YouTube channel. This was born,

523
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, I was born like this. I'm sorry. I

524
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: gotta ask you guys, though, Like, are there any particular games,

525
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: I mean not Patriots game, but just general sporting events

526
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: or games that you were remember as a kid being

527
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: really impacted by, like for the first time, or feeling

528
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: like invested for the first time in the ball After

529
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: going undefeated, I got home from my friend Carly's house

530
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: and went to town on my aim away message, like

531
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: randtically like as long as that away message could be,

532
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: I was probably cursing up a storm. I would pay

533
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: so much money to archive all that and find it

534
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: all and some messenger, I'm sure it's probably out there.

535
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: What were you to marry you at some college football

536
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 1: stuff or yeah, I was trying to think of like

537
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: some college games, um that I really enjoyed. Honestly, I'd

538
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: probably have to say like Alabama losing in like the

539
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: Iron Bowl every single time, like that was like that

540
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: was like iconic for me. Especially the kick six. I

541
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: think that was probably my favorite one that I've ever seen.

542
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: What's that? What was that one they try to kick

543
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: a field goal? Oh? And the and one? I just

544
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: saw that on Saban and Belichick that special they talked

545
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: about that and yeah, which like slightly off topic, like

546
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: that was crazy to hear Bill Belichick and Nick Saban

547
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: kind of talking about times they screwed up because you

548
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: don't really hear that ever, that was one of them.

549
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: That was that was one of them. Grand Nick said, yeah, yeah,

550
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: that was one of the bad ones. But yeah, that's

551
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: you brought up the Super Bowl in the eighties. You're

552
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: right though, it was funny, like and I brought it

553
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: up before you can go on YouTube and check out

554
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots and we and you know, you got all

555
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: of Boston was just so excited. And now it's like

556
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: I could never in a million years imagine anybody being

557
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: that like just I don't know, just positive and like, wow,

558
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: isn't this great? We're going to play in the super Bowl.

559
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: Like instead you'd be hearing all the reasons why they're

560
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: gonna lose or you know, like why they shouldn't be

561
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: there or those are like the stories that that drive

562
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: things now. But I just remember being I don't know,

563
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: I was probably about ten at the time, and you know,

564
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: being excited, and then all of a sudden, oh god,

565
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: this is not good. No, And then you got the refrigerator,

566
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: Perry running touchdowns it and all that. So it's I

567
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: was young good in nineties. I was young. I was

568
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: I was a baby the same I was four. But

569
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 1: the first true heartbreak was Aaron Boone definitely, Like that

570
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: was the first time where sports like truly crushed me,

571
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: especially because you know the Patriots where I had just

572
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: one to know one and I mean that was obviously

573
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: kicking off what ended up being a ridiculous run. But

574
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: that was the first time where I was truly devastated

575
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: by a sports loss. I would say it would be

576
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: it would be Boone Cup Finals nineteen ninety Bruins Edmonton Oilers.

577
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: That that got me too. That was that was probably

578
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: the worst I remember getting in trouble, like mildly in trouble.

579
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: I was like a little first grader. I think it

580
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: was it must have been that O one super Bowl

581
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: or kindergarten or something, but it was Groundhog Day, like

582
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: the same weekend. And then I got back to school

583
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: on Monday and everyone's talking about like the groundhog seeing

584
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: his shadow, and I'm like, what the hell are you

585
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: people talking about? The Patriots just won the Super Bowl?

586
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Like what are we doing here? It's funny, though, you

587
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: see the miss Parallax class didn't I didn't care, I guess,

588
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: but you see the like little evidence of what you

589
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: were gonna maybe end up kind of doing, like just little.

590
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you were just already doing it, apparently. The thing. Uh, well,

591
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: we got plenty of emails here, and let's Patty's been

592
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: holding for a while, so let's let's let's jump over

593
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: to the phones here so we don't make poor Patty

594
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: hold on. I'm sure he's dying to talk to the

595
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: B Squad. No Paul, Hey Patty, what's going on? No Paul, No,

596
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: no Fred? So I apologize. You gotta ask us all

597
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: that's all right? I love the B Squad, Like like

598
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: where the conversation is going to? Um, I'll just say

599
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Um My first I think, my first

600
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: um Boston sports moment was when I was ten. I

601
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: went to Fenway Park a couple of times and um,

602
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: actually I got you know, my my parents were old school,

603
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: so I got the craft picked out of me after

604
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: the fact. But I was in Fenway Park watching the game.

605
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: I think they were playing the Detroit Tigers, and the

606
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: being the bright kid that I was, I was picking

607
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: peanuts up my nose and shooting shooting them out at

608
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: people in the crowd. Um, So that that speaks to

609
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: my intelligence and you know. Um. But also like my

610
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: very first big Patriots moment was Super Bowl twenty. I

611
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: was I was an OG bandwagoner. I pretty much liked

612
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: every other sport and every other team before I liked

613
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots. And my first game was nineteen ninety one.

614
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: They played the defending AFC champion Buffalo Bills and beat

615
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: him sixteen to thirteen. Um. And it was like right

616
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: around Thanksgiving. I'll never forget like Q Milan threw a

617
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: fifty yard touchdown pass Urban Fryar and that like one

618
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 1: of three wins that season he had. They No, they

619
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: went not they won six and ten that year, and

620
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: there was the next that they were going to be good,

621
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: and then of course the next year they go too

622
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: and fourteen and end up drafted jubilat Sodie hereafter and

623
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: the two wins that year Dante was the interim head coach.

624
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: But just just a quick question for you guys to um,

625
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: what do you think will happen if the team as

626
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: it's construed, minus what they do in the draft, you know,

627
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: when the rubber meets the road in September, do you

628
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: think do you think they'd put all this this crap

629
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: as or as Sam Malone would say, it's the drama

630
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: behind them and just say, hey, let's let's make this happen.

631
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: Because even though like the offense was an epis past year,

632
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: they still did end up winning eight games and they

633
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: came close to you know, there were one went away

634
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: from making the playoffs. I think even with as much

635
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: talent as we see in the AFC's I don't think

636
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: it's out in the realm of the possibilities. If they're able,

637
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: if everyone's able to you know, squash the squash to

638
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: her feelings and put twenty twenty two back into twenty

639
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: twenty two and focused on this year. I can see

640
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: this team making the playoffs. What do you guys think? Yeah? Thanks,

641
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: that's good, h good discussion. And I mean I do

642
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: think like if you're gonna maybe color at the Fred

643
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: positive way of Yeah, they won eight games with an

644
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: offense that like everyone was not behind and didn't believe in.

645
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: And you know, it's just I guess it's hard for

646
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: me to see I think that, like, like I still

647
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: think Bill Belichick is a really good coach, and the

648
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: team has constituted. I think they can they could probably

649
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: squeeze out six, seven, eight, nine wins again, Like, you know,

650
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: it's just how do you get over the hump? How

651
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: do you beat the good teams? And I struggle, even

652
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick, especially in the vision, which I always

653
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: say it starts for me, how do you get over

654
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: the hump? Like, and it's hard to say with the

655
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: team constituted, and you really, the only thing you can

656
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 1: really hang your hat on is the fact that they

657
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: have hired Bill O'Brien and that they have you know,

658
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: hired an actual offensive line coach. You know, the players

659
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: are fine, and I think they've done enough, and I

660
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: think their defense is pretty good. But I can't sit

661
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: here and say that I think that they can get

662
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: over the hump and consistently beat playoff team. What was

663
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: what did I have? Five and fourteen? Is what they

664
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: are against playoff teams over the last three years? Like

665
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: how is it any different? I don't know? And and

666
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: and how much do you really think any rookie is

667
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: really going to change that? Like Zay Flowers great? Is that?

668
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: Is he worth two three wins? I can't really say that.

669
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I need to see it come together

670
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, I think that in order to

671
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: get back into the playoffs, let's just put it there.

672
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: Like Robert Kraft said he wants to be back in

673
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs next year, you have to do. You have

674
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: to win some games that maybe US prognosticators don't expect

675
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: you to win, right, Like, you have to win at

676
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: least I would say two of those games without losing

677
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: the Chicago right that they lost year to get to

678
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: ten eleven wins and make the playoffs. And I think

679
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one there were a few instances where

680
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: I'll pull a Pall since we've we've already pulled a

681
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: Fred where they got some luck you know, from injuries

682
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: and things like that on the opponent. And if Tennessee

683
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: comes in here with a full arsenal, do they beat

684
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: Tennessee in twenty twenty one? Do they do they beat

685
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: some of those teams that were banged up like that

686
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: or didn't have everybody available against the Patriots? I don't know.

687
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: So I think that that's the problem right now, is

688
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: that you're in that margin of how do you pull

689
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: off an upset against Buffalo, how do you finally solve

690
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: Miami right for to get a win against the Dolphins?

691
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: How do you do those things to get yourself to

692
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: eleven wins where we're talking about playoffs. I think it's

693
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: they're still a little bit aways from that, and I

694
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: think it's worth noting that I don't think we're going

695
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: to have the same luck that we had this year

696
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: and playing so many backups, Yeah, how many backup quarterbacks

697
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: did we play this? I mean, that's the thing for

698
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: a few years, you know, and then even you tackle

699
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: on like the Jets, you can't forget about the Jets,

700
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: who I mean, obviously they're still trying to figure out

701
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: this whole Rand Roger situation. But if they get him

702
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: that's not going to be like a guaranteed two wins, right, Like,

703
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: that's just I mean, how those games went last year

704
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: down to the very final play of the game. And

705
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it again, I can't. I can't ignore

706
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers coming here to the Patriots. I can't. I mean,

707
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm probably crazy and there's probably no chance.

708
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: But the longer it drags out with the Jets and them,

709
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: at what point does Green Bay say, you know what,

710
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: we need to figure out what we need, what we want,

711
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, and we're not going to sit around and

712
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: wait for the Jets to finally give in, especially and

713
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: it just doesn't it seem like it would be totally

714
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: something that Bill would do to swoop in and take

715
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: him from Jets, you know. And I know he's always

716
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: intrigue with those players. I'm not saying it's going to happen,

717
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: but I just I can't completely rule that one out,

718
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: especially because I feel like Aaron Rodgers, like I know,

719
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: and I believe me, I don't. I'm not a huge

720
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: fan of him off the field in terms of who

721
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: like as a quarterback. As an athlete, he's awesome, but

722
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: it would be a challenge. It would be a challenge,

723
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think when you see

724
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: a generational football player who can still play at a

725
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: high level and would instantly change the conversation here more

726
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: so than any rookie you could possibly draft. I don't know.

727
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: I still I'm still kind of thinking it might it

728
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: could possibly happen, yea. And he would also bring Obj

729
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: with him like he would he wants him, like he

730
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: would obviously bring that whole list with him of people

731
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: that he wants. But and Obj is the same thing

732
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: where he's like holding out for who's gonna give me

733
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: that money? Who's gonna give maybe nobody? And he wants

734
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: a good quarterback too, though, And as we have three

735
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: weeks to go, this is when this is when the

736
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: rubber starts to meet the road and teams say, look,

737
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: we're not waiting for a twenty twenty four pick. We

738
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: want a twenty twenty three first rounder right now, and

739
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: if you're not going to give it to us, we're

740
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: gonna start talking to other teams and see what they're

741
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: willing to give up. I don't know if the Patriots

742
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: are going to be able willing to give up a

743
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: first round pick for him, And there's the money thing,

744
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: and there's plenty of reasons to say why it couldn't

745
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: work and it's impossible. But I just think, at the

746
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: end of the day, here's a quarterback who I know,

747
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick respects, who's a great player, who clearly is

748
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: not you know, as much as Lamar is a wonderful

749
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: guy and a wonderful player. I mean, there are some

750
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: significant changes that will probably need to happen if you

751
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: bring Lamar Jackson. I would just say less so than

752
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: if you were to say, let's tailor this offense to

753
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: air and Rodgers. Would you give pick fourteen for him? No?

754
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: I know, and that's that's probably what it would take.

755
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna I would say no. And then you say, well,

756
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: then it's happening. Well that's what the Jets are dealing

757
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: with right now with the Packers. But I just think

758
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: with this whole offseason, the only the only thing that

759
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: I keep coming back to is sort not necessarily about

760
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers specifically, but doesn't the whole offseason make a

761
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: lot more sense if you drop in a proven franchise

762
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: quarterback into what they've done? Because I personally feel like

763
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: Dave approached this offseason like they still have Tom Brady. Right,

764
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna sign quarterback's gonna lift all the right,

765
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna sign Juju. We're gonna sign Mike Kasiki. We're

766
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: gonna trade out Damien Harris for James Robinson. We're gonna

767
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: bring in some veteran tackles. Like this is what teams

768
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: that feel like the quarterback is doing the heavy lifting

769
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: are doing. And that's I think where my frustration has

770
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: been with their entire offseason is that there's either two schools.

771
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: Either you're operating with the quarterback is going to drive

772
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: the bus, or you're operating like the supporting castle is

773
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: going to drive the bus. And right now they are

774
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: building a team that the quarterback needs to drive the bus.

775
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: But you don't have a bus driver at quarterback. So

776
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: how do you get around that? You know, that report

777
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: about Max so much more interesting, right it does? And

778
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: I keep I keep having this conversation with people. I'm like,

779
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: when I go into the locker room and I talk

780
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: to our defense about the opposing team's quarterback, they always

781
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: have something to say. His arm, his legs, you know,

782
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: he can do both. Like when you look at Mac,

783
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: what can you say what challenges you when you're playing Mac? Yeah,

784
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: I get a lot of that those questions too, of

785
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: like what's the path like with Mac Jones, Like how

786
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: are you competitive with him? Just assuming that he looks

787
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: like he did his rookie season and that's that's the

788
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: best it's going to get. And I look at teams

789
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: like San Francisco and like Miami. I'd also throw them

790
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: in there too, that are taking what I think is

791
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: pretty average quarterback situations and adding tire, killing Jalen Waddle

792
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: and Tehron Armstead and making that quarterback look like he's

793
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: an MVP. That's why he looks so great at Alabama

794
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: because he had great coaching and outstanding pieces around and

795
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: I think that he can still do that in the pros.

796
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: But you have to have outstanding pieces around him, and

797
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: this team doesn't, So if you know, I think that

798
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: that's the difference. And I think Philly is a good

799
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: example of maybe you're still lukewarm on your quarterback and

800
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, AJ Brown comes to town

801
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: and now now you're you're all set. You're like, oh,

802
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is our guy. So it can go both ways.

803
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: You can either just drag the quarterback through the playoffs

804
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: or you can actually bring out Josh Allen Jalen Hurts

805
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: type breakout out of your QB by surrounding him. And

806
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: right now this team is is operating like they still

807
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: have Tom Brady. Let's jump back to the phones that

808
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: we got Eric here in New Jersey and like, just

809
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: say he would Eric Skalvina would prove he spells his

810
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: name the correct way with Eric with a K. At

811
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: least that's how Matt wrote it. Hey, hey, hey, you

812
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: here a little little echoe, but we got you. Oh

813
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: let mean you guys show me now better now? Okay, um, yeah,

814
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: I just I want to talk about this guy's kind

815
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: of stay on mac here um. And like I said,

816
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: you guys are touching on twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. Yep, yeah,

817
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: you guys are touching on twenty twenty one. I was

818
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: just trying to I was trying to figure out at

819
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: what point I don't know, I can't even yeah, okay, yeah,

820
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: I was trying to. I was trying to figure out,

821
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: at what point, at what game do you see Mac? Like,

822
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: what's what's the Hallmark game? From Mac that you've seen

823
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: from these last two years. Again, I mean you could

824
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: throw in all the all the extra curriculums from last season.

825
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: Then again, you I look back at that game on

826
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and you look at the Bills game

827
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: where you only had Mac broke three times in inclement weather.

828
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: And again you're not saying you're gonna get that type

829
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: of of of you know when, but again you know

830
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: there's too much air under his throws. And again, at

831
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: what point and two seasons have you seen the game

832
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: my hallmark game like this game from Mac where you

833
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: stay here and say, all right, you can win behind him.

834
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: Because again, if you give any other guy, I mean

835
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: most guys, if you can give them all the tools,

836
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: all the weapons, yeah, I'm sure they can get you

837
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. But what is it about Mac that

838
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: you've seen in these last years, Because I can't figure

839
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: it out now, be obviously the talent. I see too

840
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: much air under the throws, like Paul would say, and

841
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't. There's not one game he had. He had

842
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: one game last year at the Minnesota game where he

843
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: could have took it over in the fourth quarter. One

844
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: still hasn't Still hasn't we beat the Texans on the

845
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: fourth quarter comeback? I mean, so, what is it that

846
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: you guys see and what's the hallmark game that you

847
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: take from Mac that you can stay here and say

848
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: what is it that we can we have something here

849
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: we can compete? Yeah, thanks eric Um, But I just

850
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: doesn't matter no, like like that, like does it really

851
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: matter at the end of the day now, because I

852
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: think the one game that I would point to that

853
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: I thought Mac really made made himself look like a

854
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: viable quarterback was Cleveland twenty one when he through the

855
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: seem to Born where I had some pace on. Yeah,

856
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: that was I think his best game as a pro.

857
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: But what the whole point that I was making before

858
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: about look at the Niners like Jimmy G and Brock Purty, like,

859
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: are you gonna sit here and tell me that Jimmy

860
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: G has got anything special going on about him as

861
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: a signature, right or a moment or even just like

862
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: a trait that you're like, oh wow, Like that's that

863
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: makes Jimmy G stand out. And they dragged his butt

864
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: all the way to a super Bowl and they probably

865
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: should have won the super Bowl that they got to.

866
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: So again, there's two different ways to do it. It

867
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be the quarterback being Tom Brady and

868
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: carrying the team with you. It doesn't. You know, we've

869
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: seen it work in other ways where the quarterback is

870
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: a little bit lesser than and isn't necessarily the one

871
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: driving the bus. So the whole what have you seen

872
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: from Mac? I've seen that Mac can be a service

873
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: b NFL quarterback when the situation and environment allows him

874
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: to be. And that can be good enough if you're

875
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: built up other in other places on the roster. Yeah,

876
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: I would just I would just and I hate to

877
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: compare people to Tom Brady because it's just it's Tom Brady.

878
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: But you know, just to him being in the second year,

879
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: he sat his whole first year, and his second year

880
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: you saw an overtime win against you know, against the Chargers.

881
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean you just, all of a sudden you started

882
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: to see him growing into what he would eventually becoming. Now,

883
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: this is the greatest player of all time. It's you know,

884
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: it's not apples to apples. But at the same time,

885
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: I understand what the fans want. They want to say,

886
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: where can I look, We've had this guy for two

887
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: years now, what what can I point to and say,

888
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: all right, if we can expand upon that, if we

889
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: can feature that, if we can put players around him

890
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: that can help that, then maybe we're on the correct trajectory.

891
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: And so from that respect, I kind of get it,

892
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, I get what people are looking for, just

893
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: a glimmer of hope, a glimmer of you know, this

894
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: is this is what he can do. And I mean

895
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: I go back to what kind of Tamara brought up with,

896
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: you know, what made him good in college, you know,

897
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: those things and like you said, he had he had

898
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: the piece and and and and that it highlighted his

899
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: smarts and his you know, I think his accuracy has

900
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: been pretty good, um, you know, as one of his strengths.

901
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: So it's it's just hard because those things. You've got

902
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: a great processor, you know, like it doesn't always translate.

903
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: It's not always like oh there it is so hopefully

904
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: with Bill O'Brien, and I think that's why, unfortunately you

905
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: have nothing else to really trumpet right now. That's what

906
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: you have to point to and you say, all right, well,

907
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: now Bill O'Brien's gonna give Mack the answers to the

908
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: test and he's going to be able to execute those

909
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: with his ability to process and understand the game. That's

910
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: what the hope is. But you know, to Evans point,

911
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: does it really matter if it's yeah, he's getting out

912
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: the ball on time and a correctly run route to

913
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster, is that going to make enough difference

914
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: against teams like Buffalo, against teams like Cincinnati, against teams

915
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: like Kansas City, all the elite teams of the AFC. Eventually,

916
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: you just you gotta put an end to a problem

917
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: that's going on a half decade now of so US

918
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: looking at their offense on paper in August and saying, Nope,

919
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: don't have enough, right, they don't have enough firepower, They're

920
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: not gonna hang. And this goes back to Tom Brady's

921
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: last year, and I would say that there was even

922
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: inklings of it in eighteen. And I think that Brady

923
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: and Gronk and Edelman turned back the clock one more

924
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: time in the playoff run in eighteen, especially in Kansas City.

925
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: But that team in eighteen had issues on offense throughout

926
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: the regular season to the point where Josh Gordon all

927
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden became this viable asset for them. Because

928
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: that's what they were searching for, was something else, because

929
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: Gronk was you know, battered and starting to slow down

930
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: a little bit, and and Edelman was to Edelman, but

931
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: they really didn't have anything else, and they had to

932
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: make the move for Josh Gordon. And so this is

933
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: eighteen I would say it started. Nineteen was when it

934
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: was really bad, and it's been kind of really bad

935
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: since then. At some point, you got to put the

936
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: end end to this rut. Yeah, I think like in

937
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: order to get what mister Kraft said he wanted, you know,

938
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 1: at the owner's meetings, and that's getting to the playoffs,

939
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: Like this year, you have two choices. You either trade

940
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: Mac and you get this generational veteran quarterback that's going

941
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: to get you there right now, or you go out

942
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: and spend some money to get those outstanding pieces for

943
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: Mac to be great, because at this point, like with

944
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: what where the roster stands right now, Like I'm just

945
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: not confident enough in his traits and this roster to

946
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: get them where mister Kraft wants them to be. That's

947
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: why I feel a little bit like maybe there was

948
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: some substance to these Mac rumors, but now they have

949
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: to backtrack because it didn't work out and you can't

950
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: you can't Mac bring Mac back after this is all confirmed,

951
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: Like you have to backtrack on it. Yeah, and I

952
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: think I mean and to the point of it's silly

953
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: season with the draft, it's also the time when deals

954
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: happen and things happen, and you know seven and Randy Moss,

955
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: like this is when dominos need to fall. You know,

956
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: you've heard all these guys of you knows Hopkins gonna

957
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: get released? Is is Odell's price going to come down?

958
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: All those different things. It's all going to happen in

959
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: the next you know, a few weeks and there who knows,

960
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: there could be some splashing moves still coming for this

961
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: team that maybe changes where we're sitting right now. But

962
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: I also don't like the reports that come out like

963
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: this because teams talk to other teams about a laundry

964
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: list of players, and those conversations can range from a

965
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: deal getting done to is Mac Jones available? Nope, Okay,

966
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: let's move on to the next guy, right, Like, so

967
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: they talked to teams about Mac Jones or were shopping

968
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. That is such a loose term that there's

969
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: so much nuance and so much degrees in there of Okay,

970
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: was Bill calling people and saying, hey, Max available, what

971
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: would you what would you offer? Or was you know,

972
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: they saying how do you guys feel about Mac right now?

973
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: And maybe Bill was a little bit lukewarm on the phone,

974
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: like he's been with us, But it wasn't like we're

975
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: dangling him out there for you to come and grab them. Yeah,

976
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: And to that point, I always feel like when there's oh,

977
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots are interested in this guy, the Patriots are like,

978
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: there's always an element of due diligence that any team

979
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: should be doing. Previously, that's the Patriots being interested in

980
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: a guy was like sound the red alert, Like all right, oh,

981
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots might get this guy's you know, teams might

982
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: scramble that we're chasing the team back then. But I

983
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: think everything is with a grain of salt here over

984
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: these last few weeks. I like that you said that, Mike,

985
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: with the grain of salt, because it's like, even if

986
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: Bill did say Mac is our guy, we've seen coaches

987
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: say so and so is all right, it's like the Jets,

988
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's our guy. Two seconds later, Jack Molson is

989
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: our guy two seconds It's just like you've seen coaches

990
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: say this is our guy, We're not interested in Deshaun Watson,

991
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: we're not interested in this person that person and then

992
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: turns out there. So you have to take out You

993
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: have to take everything. You've to take the luke warm

994
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: with a grain of salt, and you also have to

995
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: take the people who are claiming this person is our

996
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: guy with a grain of salt, because at the end

997
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: of the day they still could change their mind. Let's

998
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: jump back to the phones and head down to Georgia

999
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: where we got Jody. Hey, Jody, hows it going. Hey,

1000
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: doing good, guys, How y'all doing good? Thanks for calling in. Hey, Um,

1001
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: I just kind of want to take it back to

1002
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: the draft a little bit. Sure. I just had a question.

1003
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: We all know how bad Bill missed in twenty nineteen

1004
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: with nikkil do we do you guys think like there's

1005
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: this pressure on Bill, like I can't miss if I

1006
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: take a receiver. He's like, I'm I'm big on him

1007
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: to day or Jason. I'm good with either of those guys,

1008
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: but I feel like he's gonna go more towards like

1009
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: jackle or defense take the safe thick because like if

1010
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: he misses big in the first round again, you know,

1011
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: like he's kind of staying there on one leg. Yeah,

1012
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're putting in the work on

1013
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: safe Flowers. It seems I just feel like that's a

1014
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: and I totally hear what the caller is saying, but

1015
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: I do kind of feel like that's a little bit

1016
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: of a loser's mindset, Like how do you You can't

1017
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: let past mistakes dictate the right decision in the future.

1018
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that Zay just because I love him,

1019
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: is the only option for them in the draft, but

1020
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: I think allowing the twenty nineteen draft to follow you

1021
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: years later to the point where you're not willing to

1022
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: take a receiver early because you missed four years ago,

1023
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: I just don't know if that's really great process. If

1024
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: you're I mean, maybe maybe you could say, hey, let's

1025
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: not draft a big receiver who's a blocker, you know, like, like,

1026
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean, let's not I mean, there's no there's no

1027
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: real comparison between the kind of player that say Flowers

1028
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: and Nickilly Harry are in any way. And I kind

1029
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: of feel the same way about Tae Kwon, even though

1030
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: I think the jury's definitely still out on that pick.

1031
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: He was definitely a departure from Nikkil, Harry, Chad Jackson,

1032
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Dobson as well. I mean he's one hundred and

1033
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: eighty pounds, sucking wet and ran a four two, So

1034
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: he's he's nothing like those guys. So I think that

1035
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: they are recognizing a little bit that they have to

1036
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: depart from that. Well, we're talking to kill Harry, and

1037
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: of course you know what that means. Eldred's calling in, Hey, Eldred,

1038
00:49:53,560 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey? Good, Hi, thanks for calling in. Hi. Yes, Fred,

1039
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: they dare you no no friends, no, no, they're at

1040
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame vote. So it's uh, it's just

1041
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: doucing the kids. The kids sounds wrong, like like iverybody

1042
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: keep holding Bill, which I'm holding Bill, but not acknowledge.

1043
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: And last season but Fred keeps saying he would you

1044
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: talk to the team? Said he started bag but I

1045
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: don't think he did it. Do y'all think? So what

1046
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: did need? Did he apologized, like apologize to the team

1047
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: or admit fause Flagiah but box the box? Yeah, that's

1048
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: a great question. Becau didn't Uh mc jones, didn't you

1049
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: know then I'm sorry or whatever. Yeah, I mean, can

1050
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: you just say sorry it's that hard? It's good that hard? Well?

1051
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: And I mean, and he said, if it doesn't work,

1052
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: blame me. So you know, I think everybody kind of

1053
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: would like that that Hey just acknowledging that man didn't work,

1054
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, and even I think when you heard from

1055
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: Robert like it's like we did. We had some offensive

1056
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: changes that in my opinion, didn't work last year. You know,

1057
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: It's like I think everyone else kind of like just

1058
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: acknowledges it as fact. But to your point, Aldred, just

1059
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: the team need to reset right now? Do they need

1060
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: to like have maybe a big move or I don't

1061
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: know if it's a you know some kind of comes

1062
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: back to Bill moment like I feel like you're onto something. Yeah,

1063
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: one more thing, don't let you go at two more things? Uh?

1064
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: I think Bill won the first three Super Bowl of

1065
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: a Bill pars There boys. So this draft and everything

1066
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: the team, he lined it up. That's why he came

1067
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: back from the Jets to New England because you thought

1068
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: the talent only when he ed was Brady and Seymour.

1069
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: But maybe it's couple don't fix too. But those two

1070
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: were domain two. But email yesterday, I don't know who

1071
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: a heel would I did ask for a Patterson because

1072
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: back then he was a wide receiver. Chicago used him.

1073
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: It again it was threw them up. Yeah, and one

1074
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: more thime. Yeah. I also I'll put a band for

1075
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: Hopkins when he first came out. Also a band for

1076
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: will William h Jayson William and I Blake and some

1077
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: more people. But don't hold my feet and God, like

1078
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: I said, I mean what I didn't say. As got

1079
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: the receipts, Yeah, we got he's he's will and all right,

1080
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks Eldred Well whoever called in and try

1081
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: to call Eldred out, you know you better. Yeah, we

1082
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: had an email that I mentioned Aldred's missus and the draft,

1083
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: which we we've all had our plenty in that category.

1084
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: What's your what misster you most proud of? Evan? Like,

1085
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: what's what's a guy that that that you were you know,

1086
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: high on or not high on that ended up being good.

1087
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: I'll just give you one quick one was I I

1088
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: didn't want to draft Dante high Tower because we had

1089
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: Brandon Spikes. That was me. That was me, Hi, it's me,

1090
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: that's the problem there. I don't know. I mean there's

1091
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: a million, uh there. There's definitely guys that I was

1092
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: super high on the draft, and you know, for example,

1093
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: like Calvin Ridley's brother, Riley Ridley. Uh, I just thought

1094
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: he was Calvin Ridley, right, Like I was like, oh,

1095
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a Ridley and he looks decent

1096
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: on film and just I don't even think he's on

1097
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: an NFL roster anymore, just not an NFL player. So

1098
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: that one was bad, you know, there was there's a

1099
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: few of those, you know, I think a lot of

1100
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: the time with the draft, you'd you see guys that

1101
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: are dominant at the college level. And I think a

1102
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: big question that you have to ask, and I think

1103
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: that they probably do this in a much more detailed

1104
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: manner than I do, is why, like why didn't nikkil

1105
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: Harry work out? Like? What were the real core things?

1106
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: Not necessarily you know what we all think, but what

1107
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: were the real core things that led to that pick

1108
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: not working out? And and then you try to course correct,

1109
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: you know, as best as you can. So I think

1110
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: with nikkiel that that's a that's got to be a

1111
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: learning process, right, I mean, how much of an indictment

1112
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 1: is it too. And we all watched what these guys

1113
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: did for the Patriots, but both Isaiah went in the

1114
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: Kill Harry aren't even on teams anymore. I mean, these

1115
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: guys were first round picks a couple of years ago,

1116
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: and even if you didn't think to kill Harry was

1117
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: a first round pick, you probably at least thought, hey,

1118
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: he's got size, you know, you could do something with him.

1119
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: I's just it's striking to me that those guys are,

1120
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: especially with when like how bad teams need tackles right now.

1121
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure when will sign after the draft, I think

1122
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: that that happens a lot, see who we get and

1123
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: then then we'll bring him in. But but even still

1124
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: like he was a first round pick, like you know,

1125
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: it's just and showed ability like yeah, Isaiah when it

1126
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: was better a better player than to Kiel for the Patriots, right,

1127
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: so he could hurt a lot the same thing, you know,

1128
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: couldn't couldn't really find that momentum. I think another point

1129
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring up too about this is

1130
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: like imagine if like you go to a college business

1131
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: class and or you know, an economics class, and you're like,

1132
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: this guy's killing it in my economics class. All right, well,

1133
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: how is he going to be when he comes in

1134
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: worse for me at you know, at an accounty for

1135
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, like it's so hard to project just people

1136
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: in general going from being students to like, this is

1137
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: a professional environ. This is a job, especially here where

1138
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: it seems even more intense, and everybody kind of says, like,

1139
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: you know, you are just on your toes every minute

1140
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: that you're inside this building. But I think that that's

1141
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 1: that's just a natural element too outside of football. It's

1142
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: just some people they get into a professional environment, they

1143
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: gotta understand how to budget their time and their money

1144
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: and their lives and their personal lives and you know

1145
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: what they're doing. It's I think it's a challenge that

1146
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to talk about football and well

1147
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: he just couldn't play, like but I think there are

1148
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: other things too that you know, you can pay. That's

1149
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: that's the hardest part for us, is that we don't

1150
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: really know these guys right, and we don't really have

1151
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: the resources to to learn them inside and out like

1152
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 1: NFL teams do. So for me, I'm really just going

1153
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: off of what I see on the field. For the

1154
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: most part. Like sure, I talked to a guy for

1155
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 1: ten minutes at the Combine or at the Shrine Bowl

1156
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: or something like that, but you're really just going off

1157
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: of feel about the player on the field, and they're

1158
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: things like with with you know, Nikkila, you know, they

1159
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: hear about about you know, the work ethic and maybe

1160
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: not being destined to be great. I just doesn't have

1161
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: that drive to to want to get there. Like we

1162
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: would never have known that, you know, going into the draft.

1163
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: So that's why even like it's it's superficial, but even

1164
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: being at the combine, I just like that element of it.

1165
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: I just like getting to see these guys. What are

1166
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: they like? I mean, some guys were so nervous up there.

1167
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember which. I think it was one

1168
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: of the Oregon offensive linemen. Um, yeah, he was nervous though,

1169
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: because English wasn't his first Oh really, all right, then

1170
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: I take it back, I take it back. Idn't know that,

1171
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, he seems like

1172
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: he's about to like combust right now. He was, he was,

1173
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: so I'm glad I didn't remember his name so I

1174
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: don't have to get in trouble for it. But let's

1175
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 1: let's jump over here now to Todd in North Carolina. Hey, Todd,

1176
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: So I got just two quick points. The first one is, uh,

1177
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: I really agree with Fred's idea of somebody being tested

1178
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: this year and we'll come out and if they come

1179
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: out of this one, it'll be really something they've proven.

1180
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's our quarterback and it's a coach.

1181
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: That's the first part. And the second part, the simple part,

1182
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: is actually something dudes hit on and and so did

1183
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: a couple other people there. Brady second year was really good,

1184
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: but we forget just the cast Brady had around him

1185
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 1: in order for somebody to grow and get into the league.

1186
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: Because you know, Brady was great, but he was able

1187
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: to grow with such talent around him, and you cannot

1188
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: say that that was not a factor in his greatness

1189
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: that offensively, Like, I mean, you know, I think for

1190
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: the it's such a different time period. That's what he

1191
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: needed around him then, and what Macne's around him now

1192
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: are not comparable. I just uh, I was watching some

1193
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: Dion Branch highlights the other day because it's like, you know,

1194
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to go back and be like, all right, well,

1195
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: that was the receiver that they hit on, right, they

1196
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: dropped him in the second round and they hit on

1197
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: the player. And it was too funny because you're watching

1198
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: this this speedy underside receiver and they're in these heavy

1199
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: personnel groupings under center, like twelve twenty one personnel groupings,

1200
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: and he's split out why And you're like, if you

1201
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: were playing nowadays, you would be in the slot. You'd

1202
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: be you know, in an eleven personnel grouping, and you'd

1203
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: be running Edelman routes right like, you wouldn't be running

1204
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: these vertical post routes out of heavy packages. And Brady

1205
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: has taken these seven and nine step drops and throwing

1206
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: the ball deep. So it was just such a different

1207
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: game back then that I think back then a day

1208
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: they had enough on offense. But if you had that

1209
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 1: offense today like that, it's probably worse than this. Yeah,

1210
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: we're talking about what we're talking about right now. Yeah.

1211
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: I do think they had I mean, the defense. You

1212
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: have to you have to acknowledge that they had great

1213
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: pieces and I mean and and to push back on

1214
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: the earlier caller who said, like he did it on

1215
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: parcels like the free agency class that they signed that

1216
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: year was a huge impact on that team. So I

1217
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: mean I get what I get like and I said

1218
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: earlier with Parcels like he certainly planned some seeds with

1219
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: that team with malloy and Law and Bruski and mcguinnis.

1220
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: But you know the Fifers, the Vaybels, you know, the

1221
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: Otis Smiths, like those guys that they brought in and

1222
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: coached up and then made them. So I always forget

1223
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: where they were seeing more Matt like the same draft

1224
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: class right so that I mean, so you're rookie classes.

1225
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean compares your left tackle and your best defensive

1226
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: right out of the gate too, So I mean imagine,

1227
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not totally different than when we're

1228
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: talking about right now, where it's like, imagine if they

1229
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: got two impact starters, I mean long term impact starter.

1230
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: Richard Seymour is a Hall of Fame player right now.

1231
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, these are the kind of things I think

1232
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: that this team needs. And I don't want to go

1233
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: as far as you know, with the earlier callers said

1234
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: about is he you know coaching? You know, does he

1235
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 1: absolutely feeling the pressure to hit on this? I don't

1236
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: think so, but I feel the pressure of this needs

1237
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: to be a good draft, and I mean it's you know,

1238
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: when you look at twenty twenty two Straft, I just

1239
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: I feel like there's so much uncertainty there. I feel

1240
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: so much uncertainty about last year's draft class. I could

1241
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: go either way on Thornton Strong, Harris, Cole Strange. I mean,

1242
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: I think cole Strange probably his floor is pretty decent.

1243
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be probably the tackle here for

1244
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: the next three seasons. Sorry, Guard, you know, but I

1245
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: don't know about anybody else. I really don't. I don't

1246
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: even know what Zappy like. How much do you really

1247
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: feel confident about that class yet? Whereas you know, even

1248
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: and you could even go to twenty twenty one with

1249
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: Parma goat hurt last year, we wanted more out of him,

1250
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: act didn't really you know, a lot of issues there.

1251
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: But you know, Romandres is kind of the key piece

1252
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: that you feel like you hit on. But I'll continue

1253
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: to say, I think the draft is the only way

1254
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: out of this thing. I think Ramandre and then Marcus

1255
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: Jones are like my two that from the past two years.

1256
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: You got to bring up Mars. Yeah, Marcus Jones, I

1257
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: feel like he can end up being a guy that's

1258
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: going to be here for a while, just because of

1259
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 1: his versatility and his ability to you know, help special teams,

1260
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: especially that's been kind of struggling, especially with last season.

1261
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 1: I think I think, to your pointsmor too, that he's

1262
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: the kind of guy I don't want to say you

1263
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: build a team around, but he's the kind of guy

1264
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: that is a marketable marquee kind of player. Where you

1265
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: say the Patriots have a three guy who plays all

1266
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Speaker 1: three ways, you know, that kind of thing, and is

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Speaker 1: able to make an impact in all three areas. I

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01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: think that could be. He could be something special and

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Speaker 1: something that you know that this team needs. When we

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01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: talk about it's not just about trying to win, it's

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Speaker 1: also trying to get fans to get excited to come

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Speaker 1: to watch training camp, you know, to put butts in

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Speaker 1: the seats to at least come see these guys play.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Hey, they might not They're probably not going

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Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, but I gotta get out

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01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: to camp this year because they have this generational kind

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Speaker 1: of player that's just so special and I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: go to training camp just to watch Marcus Jones return punts.

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Speaker 1: You know, like that kind of thing. I think they

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Speaker 1: need more guys like that, marketable guys. That's the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing to me is that I feel like there were

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. The training camp was such a weird

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Speaker 1: environment to begin with, so I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: it counts, but I think there were moment. There were

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Speaker 1: moments early on from Kyle Dugger in twenty twenty training

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Speaker 1: camp or you're like, Okay, this guy, this guy's different,

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01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: like he moves differently. You know this is this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be good. But I haven't felt like, you know,

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Speaker 1: hearing Bill talk about um, you know, guys like Richard

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Speaker 1: Seymour or you know the mccordy ground cow Ski class

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Speaker 1: where they got the training camp and like two days

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01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: into training camp they're just like laughing at how good

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01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: Richard Seymour is. Like when when's the last time that

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Speaker 1: you can say that about a Patriots draft pick that

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Speaker 1: you got to training camp and on day one a camp,

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Speaker 1: the media, the coaches, everybody is just like, holy crap,

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Speaker 1: Like this guy is just an unbelievable football player. And

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Speaker 1: when you pick at fourteen, like you should be able

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Speaker 1: to come out with a guy that we're all saying

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Speaker 1: in mini camp like wait until you guys see Jackson

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Speaker 1: Smith and Jigbo, like this is gonna be fun. I

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Speaker 1: just I really can't think of one in my time

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01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: covering the team that they've had one of those guys

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01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: where it's just like instantly like yes, like that's that's

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01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a great pick. I mean, and I think

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01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: to your point of it, I mean, you're talking about

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01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: guys in the top half of the draft where they

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01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: haven't picked a lot, and so you're saying Seymour had that.

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01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: I would even say Mayo kind of had it. Like

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Speaker 1: I don't know it's to the same extent, but I

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01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: think everybody kind of acknowledge your right out of the gate,

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01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: like they got a Google, they got a good linebacker,

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01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: Uh you know, a Mac, I mean Mac for you know,

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01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: all those kind of warts that we have right now.

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01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: I think, you know, early on, it seemed like, hey,

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01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: this he can play in this league. He doesn't he

1317
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: didn't look rattled. You know, he came in and he

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Speaker 1: as a quarterback. And I always compared just to you

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01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: know what I saw the most of which was Jared

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01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: Stidham the year before, and it was like, oh, boy,

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Speaker 1: like you know, the first guy wasn't there. It's getting

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01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: ugly quick and Mac I was just I was remarkable

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01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: to me right out of the gate, and like whatever

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01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: that first mini camp was where it's like there's chaos

1325
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: going around him, but he's still able to kind of

1326
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: hang in there and get the ball out. I just

1327
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,439
Speaker 1: feel like when you hear about like you hear about

1328
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: these guys like seymore Is, you know, going back aways,

1329
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: but even just in other camps around the league, when

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01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: you hear the buzz starting about you know, Sas Gardner

1331
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: in New York and he's just out there just putting

1332
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: clamps on everybody that goes up against him or you

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01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: know whoever. And I just I feel like that has

1334
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: not happened. Like, yeah, we've seen flashes, Like I think

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01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: Taekwon flashed at times in camp last year. He had

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01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: his moments, but it wasn't like a dominant every single day.

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01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: This guy is a factor. I feel like Zay Flowers

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01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: is like a guy that could do that just because

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01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: like like for example, when he finally practiced at the

1340
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: Shrine Bowl, I feel like the sidelines were like buzzing,

1341
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,479
Speaker 1: like just all about him. I feel like he's could

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01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: be that guy if he's picked at fourteen, that's what

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01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: they need. Let's let's just grab Melvin here before we

1344
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: break for lunch. Hey Melvin, thanks for holding on. I

1345
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,919
Speaker 1: was going on, I would just powering through here without

1346
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: our with our feelers leaders. I guess you. I guess

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01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 1: um quick point that I was gonna talk. I guess

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01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: you are just kind of spoke on a little bit.

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01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: But I think overall, like fans a disrate for like

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01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: young players, right, yeah, So they're just you know, constantly

1351
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: looking for let's say, for examp parties him Stevens for example.

1352
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: You like them and and the Myers of the world,

1353
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: and I'll speople like that, like we like them. They

1354
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: they're good players and every got that. But it comes

1355
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: to point that we have to realize, I guess those

1356
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: at those particular players like really gonna help us go

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01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: to the next level. So it's it's a tough position

1358
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: for I guess the coaches to be in because you

1359
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: gotta make that decision because players are just like he

1360
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: just talked about, just extremely desperate, and we don't want

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01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: to let these players go because they're good players. They

1362
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: are good players, but the money gets involved and everything

1363
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: like that factors into it. So even somebody like Stevenson

1364
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: we just drafted to running back, um, you know recently.

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01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: So even though he is a good player and can

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01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: do all these things for us, is that the right decision?

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01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: Do we need to pay the money? Etter? And it's

1368
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: just gonna be as it's a tough position because I

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01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: feel like when his contract is up, for example, the

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01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: fans are gonna just reacted the same way. I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna be wanting to keep them.

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01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: But where are we going, you know, long term? And

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01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: just a lot of players like that, the Duggers, the

1374
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: ouchase like do we need to sign these people? Are

1375
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: they good forward the team? Are we good for us

1376
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: going forward? Or do we need to try to you know,

1377
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: let him go and try to average might not be

1378
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: good enough. We need to be looking for star, somebody

1379
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: to be at a round And those are the ones

1380
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,479
Speaker 1: we need to be signing, and some of the ones

1381
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: not really the average player always average, but players not willing.

1382
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: Players need to be on another level for us to

1383
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: go to the nickt love yea. So those are the

1384
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: players we need to be going after. Yeah, I think

1385
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: that that speaks to the old, the old, you know,

1386
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: Dante high Tower being the last first round pick to

1387
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: get a second contract with the Patriots. Dante high Tower,

1388
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: he just retired from the league like as ten years ago,

1389
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, And I look at Kyle Dugger. I think

1390
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger is a guy that that could be a

1391
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: second contract guy. It's going to be that caveat that

1392
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: he was a second round pick and not a first

1393
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: round pick. But as besides the point, but I think

1394
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: that Kyle Dugger has that star potential in him. Remandre

1395
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: is a running back. So that's that gets into the

1396
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: whole value thing and second contracts and all that kind

1397
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: of stuff. But this is what we're talking about, you know,

1398
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: Alex and I always talk about Tuesday players, like who's

1399
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: Tamara's point, right, Like who's going in and the Tuesday

1400
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: meeting when they're playing the Patriots and he'll put the

1401
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: offense up on the board for the coaching staff who

1402
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: we circling, Like who's the guy that you absolutely have

1403
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: to stop? And I think a lot of these coaching

1404
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: staffs are saying nobody exactly, like you know, we're not

1405
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: just do what we do. Yeah, And I think defensively, Judean,

1406
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: I think Dougger, I think Barmore and j When it's

1407
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: a passing situation, you got to know where those guys

1408
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: are and know how they rush. But offensively that cupboard

1409
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: is is bare. And I don't think Juju Smith Shuster

1410
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: is changing that as much as I like him as

1411
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: a player. Yeah, yeah, it's I think, and we'll go

1412
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: to break here. It's just it's a great point by

1413
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: Melvin that I've brought up before. It's it's you know,

1414
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: for the fans, it's continuity. It's like who's our team,

1415
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: who's our core? Like what's our personality? And I feel

1416
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: like we talk about the early two thousand Patriots, like

1417
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: you going into every game, You're like, we got Willie McGinnis,

1418
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: we got Teddy Bruski, Tylow, we got Lloyd Malloyd. These

1419
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: guys have been here for six, seven, eight years up right,

1420
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: They're they're just part of the fabric of the team.

1421
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: And you know, I think right now they were at

1422
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: a point where there isn't really any of those guys,

1423
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: and I think this year I was kind of and

1424
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of waiting to see, is Kyle Ducker

1425
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: that guy now's the time. Are we going to let

1426
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: him get to free agency next year? Now? And to

1427
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: make the point in the opposite end, you got your

1428
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: Bill Peppers, you got Josh Bloods. I mean like it

1429
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 1: just seems like they continue. We did we did a

1430
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: safeties preview for the draft, as Brian Branch, I mean,

1431
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: there are so many of these guys available, you know,

1432
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: it's I would just hate to do that there. Yeah, no,

1433
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: I hear your point. And because that's a guy that

1434
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: you identified that was a little bit off the beaten

1435
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: path being from Leonora Ryan and you're right about him

1436
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: that his his athleticism and his skill translated to the

1437
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: league and he's still got some warts in his game,

1438
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: Like I don't think that he's perfect yet, but the

1439
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 1: playmaking is all all the way there, you know. I

1440
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: mean four defensive touchdowns is four defensive touchdowns. And that's

1441
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: a guy that I think that you should be trying

1442
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: to build around, especially now that Devin mccordy is retired,

1443
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: Like he should be taking the and I'm not asking

1444
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 1: him to give those raw ross speeches that Devin gave

1445
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but in terms of on the

1446
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: field and between the lines, like that should be your

1447
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: next generation. And at some point, to your point, they

1448
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: have to stick with some of these guys and you

1449
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: can't just keep on turning them out because you do

1450
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: have to have a walls. All right, We're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a quick break. Thank you for all the awesome emails,

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Speaker 1: though they're playing of great ones. Can't wait to get

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Speaker 1: like second minute, hour, the ah in that word silent

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Speaker 1: it is they also have the same name. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's the that's how that's the difference our You are correct, Mike,

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Speaker 1: to most of us is our house or our house

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Speaker 1: our house in the middle of the street. Eric, you

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Speaker 1: you know what a dictionary? You just come look it up.

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Speaker 1: You just completely butchered the name of a town in

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Speaker 1: Massachusetts on a call earlier that morning. Syllable you should

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Speaker 1: easily know. Look it up, Eric, Gloucester. Don't take my word.

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Speaker 1: do not take my word for it. I don't look.

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Speaker 1: I don't take your word for anything. Look it up.

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Speaker 1: How many syllables does oh you are have? Look it up?

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Speaker 1: look it up. How many syllables in the word oh

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Speaker 1: you are? And what are you saying? One? None? He's

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Speaker 1: saying that the word are and oh you are pronounced

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Speaker 1: exactly the same one. One. There you go, and there

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Speaker 1: to look it up. I looked it up at the

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Speaker 1: dictionary and it has the pronunciation. How many audibles? Our?

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Speaker 1: He just said, one. Well, I just I'm just playing,

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Speaker 1: are you I'm not listening to the pronuciation. Let me

1641
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Speaker 1: see that hour, Let me see it. So Fred's picking

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Speaker 1: up the phone. Now it has a little it has

1643
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Speaker 1: the little pronunciation. You got how you pronounce it? Do

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Speaker 1: you hear how it was pronounced? It's one. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how many syllables it is. It's pronounced hour, yea hour.

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Speaker 1: It is not our. That's another great moment from Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: am so agitated by that whole thing, and I wasn't

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Speaker 1: fell a little flat, which was you don't have one

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Speaker 1: printed because Eric will print everything, like you know, if

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Speaker 1: killing trees. But that's my mom. She just has to

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1657
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1658
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Speaker 1: it all right. Let's jump over to some emails now,

1659
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Speaker 1: because there's a lot of emails coming through and uh,

1660
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Speaker 1: and I think there's some good ones here. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to pick some spots. I mean, a couple of

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Speaker 1: people emailed in games that that I gotta be honest,

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Speaker 1: nobody here is gonna get so I'm gonna save those

1664
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Speaker 1: ones for for the old guys, Paul and Fred. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: they'll go back through. Um. I thought this was a

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Speaker 1: good one, just to point out. This is Franklin in Baltimore. Um.

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Speaker 1: He's saying, I remember the buzz around Chandler Jones being

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Speaker 1: Did I say Chandler? I got that right? Okay, i'd say,

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Speaker 1: you haven't heard of this yet, I say Chandler. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't get it right. I can't get it right.

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Speaker 1: There's a street in La too that's like Chandler Boulevard.

1672
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Speaker 1: And I was driving there after this had already come

1673
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Speaker 1: out on the show that I can't say Chandler. And

1674
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Speaker 1: I looked up and like, I hear Chandler, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: damn it when you like Monica and Chandler, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know why. I'm saying, what what what? What's What's way?

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Speaker 1: So Chandler's just a lot of effort. Chandler Jones being

1678
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: pretty loud during his first training camp. Yeah, that's why

1679
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: I'd also especially hurt when he was traded, at least

1680
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: to me, because Jones was exactly the type of impact,

1681
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 1: instant impact player the current team needs. I I can't

1682
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: believe we traded that DNA right out of this franchise. Still,

1683
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: we all know when it was over for Chandler Jones. Unfortunate,

1684
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: unfortunate end um to it. But I mean, I remember

1685
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: having the debate you brought up. Dante High Tower is

1686
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,600
Speaker 1: the last one I remember debating like, well, actually I

1687
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: take that back, because that was more Jamie Collins High

1688
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: Tower thing. I was like, who would you who would

1689
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: you keep if you had to, if you had to

1690
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: Sophie's choice those guys, which one would you kind of retain?

1691
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: They kept their right one? Yeah. Um, and then they

1692
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: got Jamie Collins back for it all worked out. Um,

1693
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna read this one. I

1694
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 1: just like the beginning of it, but I don't know

1695
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: where it's going. It's Lyndon Boston. Though Evan's head explodes,

1696
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: that's what she got me like, though Heaven's head explodes

1697
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 1: at the thought winning through winning through a run first

1698
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: offense appears to be on the table. Taylor Kyles, Evan's

1699
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: successor at Sealing US, has taken the time to look

1700
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: at the positive possibilities for competitive offense should the Patriots

1701
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: draft a generational running back in the first round. I'm

1702
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 1: gonna I'm just gonna before you, before you go after this,

1703
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna connect it to I still feel like

1704
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: they want to attack small defenses and that if they

1705
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: did do this, which I don't think they will, and

1706
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 1: I think this is a smokescreen, but if they did this,

1707
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: that that would feed into that narrative. Okay, so there's

1708
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: a million different directions I can go with this. The

1709
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: main thing that I will say about it is that

1710
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: I think people need to recognize that teams like San

1711
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: Francisco I feel like as the always the team that

1712
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 1: people yeah butt me with on this conversation right where

1713
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you can't build a run first offense

1714
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: anymore out of them. Yeah, But what about the Niners.

1715
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: The Niners have easily one of the most efficient passing

1716
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: games in the entire NFL, so their foundational elements in

1717
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 1: their run game are to set up the passing game

1718
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: off of play action in similar looks that make it

1719
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 1: all look the same, and then they hit them down

1720
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: the field and that's how they really put up points

1721
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: on the board. Their passing game is what wins them

1722
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: football games. Their run game is how they set up

1723
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: their passing game. So either way, we're still ultimately getting

1724
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: to the same place. Whether you end up running the

1725
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: ball a little bit more than another team or whatever,

1726
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 1: you're still ending up to the point where it's third

1727
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: and seven and it's the fourth quarter and it's a

1728
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: tie game, and you need a first down and your

1729
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: quarterback and your receivers have to make a play. Okay,

1730
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: And the Niners ran into the same problem in the

1731
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl where they couldn't make the play and the

1732
01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs come back and they're the ones whole

1733
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:05,440
Speaker 1: hoisting the trophies. So ultimately speaking, everybody needs to effectively

1734
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 1: pass to win in this league. And if you go

1735
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: out and you start investing in using resources on running

1736
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 1: backs in the first round of the NFL draft, then

1737
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: you are still never going to get there on that

1738
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: side of the football to where you ultimately need to be.

1739
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: So that's the big picture of it. The other thing

1740
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: is that I hear and I love you, Taylor, I do.

1741
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 1: I like you a lot. But he put out a

1742
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 1: bunch of this stuff about like, oh, we'll imagine all

1743
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: the two running back sets that they could use with

1744
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: their mare and b Jean Robbinson, what is his navy

1745
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties? Like what do you We're gonna

1746
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: run the wishbone now. So we're gonna go into Buffalo

1747
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: against Josh Allen and a need to win game just

1748
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: like last year at the end of the season to

1749
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and he's gonna come out in the wing.

1750
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,560
Speaker 1: T well, it would work if there's a windstorm. To

1751
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: be fair, MATC Jones did run the wing in high school.

1752
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: He likes to tell us that all the time, and

1753
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: we talked to him about playing under center, Like that's

1754
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: the biggest challenge that I have with this whole thing,

1755
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: is that if you're only way the only way that

1756
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 1: you can beat a good team, name a good team

1757
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Buffalo, Cincinnati, If the only way that you

1758
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: can win is holding them in the teams and running clock,

1759
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: you are never going to beat those teams. You are

1760
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: never going to beat him. And maybe you can beat

1761
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: him once in a blue moon any given Sunday, like

1762
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: in the windstorm in Buffalo a couple of years ago,

1763
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: you can sneak one past them. But if you're trying

1764
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: to beat Josh Allen seventeen to fourteen, and ball control

1765
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: and possession and run clock and all those types of things,

1766
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: you are going to lose a lot. You just can't

1767
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: do that anymore. And it just the notion that that

1768
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 1: could work is absolutely mind blowing to me. Also, I

1769
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 1: would not as a fan want to go to a

1770
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: game and watch that. Personally. That's like not esthetically pleasing.

1771
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: That is not good, like bunts and seats. Sorry, deep

1772
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: ball I got. I got this push back too, because

1773
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: everybody was like, well, who cares about how they win? Tamara,

1774
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 1: if they win, they were It's just it's an it's

1775
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 1: an outdated thought process to think that you can win

1776
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: football games like that anymore. And I think a lot

1777
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: of people look at a Tennessee from a few years

1778
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 1: ago San Francisco and they say it can work. And

1779
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 1: it's like those teams were ultra efficient on play action

1780
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: passes and extremely good at throwing the football. They just

1781
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: didn't throw the football in the volumes that other teams

1782
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: maybe threw it in. Yeah, I mean, I thought you're

1783
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: your Your point about the Rutgers kid Pacheco, you know

1784
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: on Twitter, was apt, and I just I've brought it

1785
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: up many times. I don't want to be like I

1786
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: love Derek Henry. We all know I love Derek Henry,

1787
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be the Derek Henry team.

1788
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the Christian McCaffrey team, where like,

1789
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: all right, it's gonna be awesome until he gets dnked

1790
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 1: up and then we're like just powerless to do anything.

1791
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 1: Like it's nice when you get those guys, but like

1792
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: you said, do you think seventh round guy who like,

1793
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: you know, gets it done. I can criticize the Patriots

1794
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: for a lot. The way they do running backs is

1795
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 1: not one of them, like, and that's why this would

1796
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 1: be such an outlier for them. I know, be Jean

1797
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: Robinson's exceptional talent. He's probably the best running back that

1798
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 1: I've seen come into the drafts and say Quon and

1799
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 1: he's unbelievable, but like he had won one amazing season

1800
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: and then now I'm like, yeah, now he's a piece

1801
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: of the bright. Yeah. So that's why I'm like, not,

1802
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: I really hope they don't do that at fourteen. That's

1803
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: what I like. What happened with him was like the

1804
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 1: team was all around him. He got hurt, they couldn't

1805
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: rely on him. They not that they found really a

1806
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: lot else, but they did figure out a way to

1807
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: at least be competitive with him. And then he comes

1808
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: back and you're like, oh, now he's a nice piece

1809
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:44,560
Speaker 1: to add into this and he doesn't have to be

1810
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 1: the guy anymore. Yes, I'm a fan of that, but

1811
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 1: I just I wonder what Stevenson, you know, is there

1812
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 1: is there a running back that could change this for them?

1813
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: Is there a running back that they saying, you know what,

1814
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 1: we don't don't give a second contract to running back.

1815
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: But you're special, you fit in, you can take it all.

1816
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing. And I think the Giant

1817
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: and feel trapped in that scenario as well, even though

1818
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: it's a different regime in New York, which I think

1819
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 1: they should think about, Like we didn't draft say Kwon

1820
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 1: Barcley the second overall pick. It's not our fault that

1821
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: that that happened. But with the Patriots, it's like if

1822
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: you draft Bjean Robinson at fourteen and four or five years.

1823
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: Are you going to give him the second contract just

1824
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: because you feel obligated to give him the second contract

1825
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: because he probably is going to be pretty darn good

1826
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 1: in his rookie contract. But look at with Dallas and Zeke,

1827
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 1: he's not even the best running back on the team anymore.

1828
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard's better than him. I mean, you're already talking

1829
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: about the fifth year option, like what you're gonna have

1830
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: to pay or running right on the fifth year option

1831
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: like that seems crazy? Um, Alex and Charlotte writes in

1832
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 1: um Charlotte, Charlotte, Charlotte, Like, oh, I'm saying, what foot

1833
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: like the name? Charlotte, Charlotte. Good, Charlotte, Good Charlotte. Um.

1834
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 1: So it's like chocolate, it's not chocolates. I'm a young

1835
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 1: Patriot fans, so all I've known all my life is

1836
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:03,759
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. But the first season I can really recall

1837
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: was the two thousand and six season losing to the

1838
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 1: AFC Championships, go to the Super Bowl, to then follow

1839
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 1: that with OH seven, which which Alex brought up with

1840
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: more heartbreak looking back. Now, I'll do anything to have

1841
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: seasons like that now. But I think the future is bright,

1842
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 1: and I believe the team will make strides to get

1843
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 1: back in there. I like the positivity at the end.

1844
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 1: Six it was a nightmare for me. Freddy Email. I

1845
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 1: did go to that San Diego playoff game, though one

1846
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: I've always said that was just my favorite experience as

1847
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,679
Speaker 1: a fan. Went through a whole ticket thing, like because

1848
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: they relieved I was in California, They're gonna re leasse

1849
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 1: tickets to people lived in California. It didn't get them,

1850
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: went back on like I had them. Ticketmaster crashed as

1851
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: it is wont to do. Lost my tickets. I was apoplectic.

1852
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: Went back in, got one ticket, don't know where it

1853
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: is bought it. Look it's like eight rows and back

1854
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 1: of the Patriots bench. So I went to that San

1855
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 1: Diego play Patriots playoff game eight rows and I'm like, oh,

1856
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be surrounded by charge It was all Patriots fans.

1857
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 1: Chargers awesome, I know, and they were chirping the whole

1858
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 1: way down. And you know, at that point it was

1859
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, Tom and Bill had lost one playoff game ever,

1860
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 1: that was to Denver. That was it, and they were,

1861
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: you know, and they were coming off a great season.

1862
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers was great and Ladanya Thomlinson was MVP. I

1863
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,560
Speaker 1: forget how many touchdowns he had, but you know that.

1864
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't know, dude, you never can

1865
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: rule him out. And they were they were very confident. Um,

1866
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: but that was that was a fun one. And we

1867
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: all know oh seven which was just an absolute nightmare.

1868
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,719
Speaker 1: So let's go there for bringing those things. Yeah, thanks

1869
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 1: right now, appreciate that. Going down to North Carolina, Hey, Jerry,

1870
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: how's it going. What's going on? Everybody? UM? Evan, Yes,

1871
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: sir so. On last week Catch twenty two, UM quession,

1872
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 1: you had mentioned a wide receiver that I had mentioned

1873
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: to probably about a month and a half a though

1874
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: Charlie Joney and you were good can go over my

1875
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: mad and you put a tweet on Twitter about he's

1876
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: been gushing all over the place about him. Evan has

1877
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: a case of recency pass right, So I want to

1878
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: throw another name out there for Evan, or two names

1879
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 1: out there for Evan. Like on these wild receivers, I

1880
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 1: feel like they will be later around draft and give

1881
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots the ability to treat it back from the

1882
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 1: first UM. Darius Davis from TCU, Matt Landers from our

1883
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Kansas from Arkansas. I'm sorry, Matt Landers from Arkansas. And

1884
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 1: then uh, Jalen Marino Crooper cropper from Fresno. Yeah, the

1885
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:29,719
Speaker 1: kid from Fresno has got a little bit of buzz.

1886
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 1: That's the one that uh, I've heard his name a bunch.

1887
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 1: But I look at with Charlie Jones. I think we

1888
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 1: talked about this maybe on on another show Deuced. When

1889
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: I watched him the first time before the combine, and

1890
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 1: I just was like, is he actually fast? Like he

1891
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 1: looks like he's moving fast, but is he just one

1892
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 1: of these guys that you know, just just plays with

1893
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: his hair on fire. And then we get to the

1894
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 1: combine and he runs a four six right, And that

1895
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 1: was what I was concerned about with him. But when

1896
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: he put up that time in the combine's four four three,

1897
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Zay was a four four two. So the guy, the

1898
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 1: guy who was flying at the combine, and I was like, okay,

1899
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: so that speed is real, Like that's he's got track

1900
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 1: level speed on top of the fact that he tracks

1901
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: the ball extremely well, great hands, comes in and out

1902
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 1: of the route better than anybody. If they're gonna pass

1903
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,560
Speaker 1: on receivers early and try to go into that like

1904
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 1: third or fourth round range. I would take Charlie Jones.

1905
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:26,560
Speaker 1: That would be my guy. Another email here, Uh, you

1906
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: gotta gotta throw some a little bit of fire Paul's way.

1907
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: This is Johnny and Madtown. Right now, My ears aren't

1908
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 1: bleeding and I haven't had to adjust my volume every

1909
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: five seconds. So Paul must have the day off from

1910
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 1: the pot. Good to see the kids all in great editions.

1911
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 1: All of them especially love Alex's jokes. There you go, Wow,

1912
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,560
Speaker 1: jokes making jokes. You got jokes? Um. Yeah. He just

1913
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: says if that if the Patriots did move on from Mac,

1914
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 1: who would the QB be next year? Would they roll

1915
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 1: with Zappy or would they draft Anthony Richardson, who had

1916
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: popped up on a mock draft yesterday. That seems that

1917
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 1: seems another one, like I was talking if we're talking

1918
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 1: to the one about this, I think one if they

1919
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:04,600
Speaker 1: were to draft quarterback, like if they kept Mac and

1920
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: they were sold on that, I would see them maybe

1921
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 1: drafting dtr like Late. Oh, we loved, we love us.

1922
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: I didn't even know how late it's going to be.

1923
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: I know that's the thing, but I could see them

1924
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: picking him. Yeah, I really liked him at the Shrine Bowl.

1925
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: I liked like even at the press conferences, he gave

1926
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: me like a very much like Patriot feel. Yeah, he's

1927
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 1: got you know, he's a five year starter at UCLA,

1928
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: friend of Bill chip Kelly, and he played under but

1929
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 1: that experience and that polish of being a multi year

1930
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 1: starter and being a little bit older Mac Bailey, Zappy

1931
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl guys, guys that were around the block a

1932
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 1: little bit before they came to the pros that they

1933
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 1: gravitate towards those types of things, and DTR has got

1934
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: that athleticism to be a little bit more of a

1935
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: mobile passer runner than what they have currently on the roster.

1936
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 1: So if you're looking to just try to spread it

1937
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: around a little bit in terms skill sets and things

1938
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 1: like that, that's their guy. I can't imagine that if

1939
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 1: that's the route they want to go, that he's not

1940
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 1: the pick. I don't know why you would pick. I

1941
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 1: like Jaron Hall from by U two and that mold,

1942
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: but I don't know why you would pick that guy

1943
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 1: in the same spot that you could pick DTR when

1944
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 1: you worked with DTR as closely as they did at

1945
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: the Try And Bowl. And I think if they do

1946
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: pick a quarterback, I don't want one that's already similar

1947
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 1: to what we already have in Bailey and Mac like

1948
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: I would prefer someone with different skill set. Yeah, a

1949
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 1: little game here from Tyler for Providence. Keep trade cut.

1950
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, we go. We do go a little

1951
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 1: bit off football, which I like. M that's a good

1952
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 1: one though, so keep trade cut. I mean essentially, you're saying,

1953
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,560
Speaker 1: which one do you want to keep? Which one do

1954
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 1: you want to get rid of? Keep trade cut? Barmore, Stevenson, Dugger.

1955
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I get the game. Now. I'm gonna keep Barmore. Okay,

1956
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep Dugger. Yeah, I'm gonna keep Dugger. I'm

1957
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:55,560
Speaker 1: gonna trade barn Moore because I think there might be

1958
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 1: some value. That's absolutely true. And then I'm gonna cut

1959
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 1: Ormond's are running like I'm same as Evan. Yeah. Um,

1960
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what this means because they're not

1961
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 1: on the team, but let's just go with it. Juju,

1962
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:13,640
Speaker 1: Darnell Mooney and Brandon Uk Yeah, I don't get it.

1963
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't get either, but I'd like Brandon Aiyuk. Yeah,

1964
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 1: he might be one of those guys as quickly on

1965
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Aiyuk that we talk always about, like who's the

1966
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna come free, that's not gonna get the

1967
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 1: next contract with the team that he's on. Yeah, Brandon Aiyuk.

1968
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean they can't pay Kittle, Deebo McCaffrey. Like, at

1969
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 1: some point somebody is gonna fall through the cracks in

1970
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 1: San Francisco. But my favorite thing about Ayuk is that

1971
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 1: he replaced Harry. I asked him about Harry. We're at

1972
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 1: the combine. You know, that's my guy, you know all

1973
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Fourteenth pick Bijean Robinson, JSN or

1974
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 1: Peter Oh, that's tough. I mean you can't. How do

1975
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 1: you You can't like trade the pick or trade that's

1976
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 1: who you want? Which one would you pick? JSM Jason Yeah?

1977
01:36:55,520 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 1: Uh in their prime? Aaron Donald, Mike Singletary or Ed Reid. Okay,

1978
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 1: first of all, Mike Terry played middle linebacker out. Oh

1979
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 1: my god, I loved Ed Reid. Keep Ed Reid. I

1980
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 1: trade Donald because you know, you get something for him,

1981
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, forget about the middle life backers. I like

1982
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 1: to read um. All right, So this is for the

1983
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 1: gen xer. That's me. Thank you, not Alonio. I am not,

1984
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: in fact a boomer, as everyone here at work likes

1985
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: to yell at me, and Ed Reid is Ed Reid.

1986
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm the generation stems think that they're throwing Madonna to

1987
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 1: be fifty twos and Wham at Me, which, if you

1988
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: guys have opinions, you can chime in on that. But uh,

1989
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: what's the what's the wham song? Wham? That's that's all

1990
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 1: that's George Michael, so right, they have that one song? Though,

1991
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 1: what's the song? Yeah, I Wake me up before you

1992
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 1: go go? Yeah, yeah, I knew they had a song. Yeah,

1993
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,719
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Madonna. I gotta go with Madonna.

1994
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: I would say favorite Madonna's song would either be Holiday

1995
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,679
Speaker 1: or Live to Tell Love, Live to Tell. My favorite,

1996
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 1: um Carol up fifty two. So though I think they've

1997
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 1: got some I know everyone love Shack right, but Rome

1998
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: is a great one as well. I think that what

1999
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 1: that might qualify more? And Ashley soundtrack. Yeah, that's and

2000
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 1: that's where I probably heard of World's UM. I like

2001
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 1: Channels Z two, but the FIFTI but you gotta go Madonna,

2002
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, Madonna, it's iconic. UM And for

2003
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 1: the millennials, This is Run the Jewels, Childish Gambino or

2004
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 1: Chance the Rapper. Um, that's tough. It's between Chances Chance,

2005
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 1: I guess Childish Gambo Gambino is the most talented and

2006
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: all the stuff, but Chance. Is it a hot take

2007
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 1: to say that Chance had one good album, because that's

2008
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: kind of how I feel about Chance one good album. Like,

2009
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: I know he's probably had mixed tapes before Coloring Book,

2010
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: but I feel like he's never really been able to

2011
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 1: replicate Coloring Book. But Childish Gambino is like a renaissance man,

2012
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 1: so he doesn't just make music. So it's a Star

2013
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: Wars movie. Yeah, it's been a couple of years since

2014
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: he feel like he's come out with with anything musically.

2015
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 1: This is America? Was that his last one of the Yeah, yeah,

2016
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 1: see I'm hip, I'm cool. It's a great song. I

2017
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 1: need to tell you guys that Paul was texting me Jacole.

2018
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:09,600
Speaker 1: Oh what does that mean? He was texting me like

2019
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:13,679
Speaker 1: random um Jake because he couldn't think of the song

2020
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 1: that he liked and he wanted to tell me. So

2021
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 1: then I got he doesn't know what the name of it,

2022
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 1: So then I obviously get a random text out of

2023
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 1: the blue and it is one time for my La sisters,

2024
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: One time for my La. Leave it to Matt to

2025
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:36,759
Speaker 1: be oh my god boy love. And then he texted

2026
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 1: me again the next week because he was sending me

2027
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 1: an article that me, him and Mike Greece were talking about.

2028
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 1: And then he prefaced the article with first things First,

2029
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 1: rest in peace, Uncle Phil for real for Phil from

2030
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 1: from from Stop Stop. He died. He died. Wait, wait,

2031
01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 1: he died, like died. He died like three years ago.

2032
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:11,600
Speaker 1: Much there's a lot of deaths during At least I

2033
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 1: knew who he was, right, I gotta be credit for that. Yeah,

2034
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: I love this, Um, people can't. I don't know if

2035
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 1: people can see this behind us. But the top available

2036
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 1: free agents, that was very interesting. Obviously Obj's on there,

2037
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: um is I think Ezekieli I missed the first slide,

2038
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 1: but I think he's still in there somewhere too. Um.

2039
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 1: But it was a pretty extensive list. I'm wondering how

2040
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 1: many of those people will will find homes. Yeah, they

2041
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 1: have that, um. So obviously the draft did. Once you

2042
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 1: come away from the draft, you know what you didn't

2043
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 1: get to in the draft and fill holes. But you

2044
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 1: also have that deadline of when they stopped counting towards

2045
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: the COMPIC formula, which I think for OBJ is gonna

2046
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: be really really big because now if you do give

2047
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 1: OLBJ some money, it doesn't count towards the COMPETI compics,

2048
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: So that that's big for teams, which also too. I

2049
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 1: know the Hoyer contract was was favorable to the Patriots

2050
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 1: in terms of yea dead cap coming off. Yeah, I'm

2051
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm just hope that we have like a three headed

2052
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 1: monster at the end of all this, like in terms

2053
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,600
Speaker 1: of like a great hope and you can pray, and

2054
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 1: I feel like we need at least like a vet

2055
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 1: well hope please, because this is a good question that

2056
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 1: that'll kind of dig into this. Alexon Englewood, Englewood, New Jersey,

2057
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 1: the Young Gun's Crew filling in. That's right, great show.

2058
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Appreciate you. Two questions. Is Theay someone you

2059
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: need to trade up for or is fourteen a good

2060
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 1: spot to stay at. I'm a BC football fans sad life,

2061
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: I know and say would be a huge help. I mean,

2062
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 1: I didn't even consider that having a trade up for

2063
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 1: to day. I feel like fourteen he should, he should

2064
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 1: probably be. Yeah, you could be there, But the rest

2065
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: of the country is hyping him up as much as

2066
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 1: we are here just because of BC. Yeah, I think not.

2067
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:48,759
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people aren't worth it, aren't

2068
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 1: probably aware of him, just simply because like I'm sorry,

2069
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 1: I would rather watch paint dry than watch BC football play.

2070
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 1: But I think that he has getting a lot of

2071
01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 1: traction on I have feel like, I feel like social

2072
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 1: media helps you see players that you might not usually

2073
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 1: see you on a Saturday. Yeahs like football, Like I

2074
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 1: can even be imagine what their ratings are. I know, well,

2075
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go watch to Holy Cross beat them for

2076
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 1: the first time in like forty years. This year they're

2077
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 1: gonna play again for the first time. It's like the

2078
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: rivalry has been restored. So I'm going to BC this year.

2079
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:18,799
Speaker 1: I think it's the day before the opener is assuming

2080
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots open on There's definitely a lot of Zay

2081
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: hype for teams. I would say they are picking at

2082
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 1: the end of the first round. I know, like a

2083
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 1: lot of people in Buffalo are praying that he makes

2084
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 1: it that far down the boards so that they can

2085
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: draft Bills right the Bills. The Bills mafia love to like,

2086
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 1: but if he makes it to us like they love

2087
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 1: that guy every year, it's like somebody that's gonna be

2088
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: picked like fifteen picks ahead of their pick, and they're

2089
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 1: always like, but he's gonna make it to twenty seven.

2090
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, I love when Evan Scolts Bills fans. Yeah.

2091
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 1: Second part of this question, though, which was the part

2092
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 1: I was I was going to get at for each

2093
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Speaker 1: of you, what has to happen in the draft for

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01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 1: you to think that this team is headed the positive

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01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 1: direction and is going to win double digits this season.

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Speaker 1: I might not say double digits us a lot strong um,

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01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 1: but I think, I mean, you know t Evan's point.

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01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,560
Speaker 1: I think like, look, I we're gonna we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: drop our mock drafts tomorrow. And I do think tackles

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Speaker 1: still in that conversation, and I can make it the

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01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 1: case for that, but I think just to re energize

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Speaker 1: a fan base locally nationally, give Max something to kind

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01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:24,600
Speaker 1: of chomp on a little bit. It's it's it's a

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01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 1: say Flowers type move, and that you know that that

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01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:29,680
Speaker 1: is something to bring people out at training. I think

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Speaker 1: that with all of these picks that you have available,

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01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 1: you cannot waste them on people that no one's ever

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01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 1: heard of, like no offense to like Cole Strange. But

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01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 1: like if I have to sit here and like go

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01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 1: deep back in like five rounds to find where Cole

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01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 1: strange hole was, I don't want you have all these

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01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 1: sec guys, especially if like there were so many other

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01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 1: people available that you could have taken. I think they

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01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 1: need to use these picks and go after like actual

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01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 1: great talent that's played against great competition. Not saying and

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01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 1: that culture and shiitt but I'm just saying is not

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01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 1: going to be laughing. Yes, literally needs it needs to

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01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: be like these picks need to be used on players

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Speaker 1: that are like actual come from actual football brands, Like

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01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 1: so I get like that brand version of what we need.

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01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 1: That's my baseline. Yeah, my baseline is that these need

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01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 1: to be name brand, name brand, especially the two picks

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01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 1: on the top fifty if they want to go on

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01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 1: their own board from the third round on. Like it's

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01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: we're throwing darts as it is, So if you think

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01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 1: your dart is a better dart than my dart, than fine.

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01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: But when you pick at fourteen and forty six. Those

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01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:43,799
Speaker 1: are premium inside the top fifty, inside the top twenty

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01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 1: of the first round type of picks, and those have

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01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 1: got to be name brand, blue blood type of players

2131
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: where you just start saying yes, like that's I know

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01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 1: who you're talking about. I know you're supposed to be

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01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 1: drafted here. You know, I know that's. The casual fan

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01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: of this team of our shows that listens to our

2135
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: shows should be able to say, oh, yeah, I know

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01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 1: I know that guy. Yeah. If I don't, I've never

2137
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: heard of your school before in my life, there's a problem.

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01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: That's a baseline. I don't want it. We got we

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01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 1: got a great question I'm gonna wrap with. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pose that one just yet. We're too far.

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01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: I got one more pretty good football one. And I'm

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01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 1: glad from Richard from Florida who sent this in because

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Speaker 1: I feel like we spend so much time talking about Mac,

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01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 1: the offense, Flowers, all those things. Um. The majority of

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01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 1: the time is addressing the average at best offense from

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01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 1: last year, which is understandable, but why not discuss the

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01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 1: defense and how many games they lost after the offense

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01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 1: had them ahead. Games like Las Vegas scoring in the

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01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 1: last minute before the infamous lateral Green Bay game pats

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01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 1: ahead defense allows three straight pass completions while the DBS

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01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 1: are seven Minnesota game pats ahead, and then allow the

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01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,679
Speaker 1: receivers to catch and hoping to tackle any of the others.

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01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: You can think of some of those games special teams

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01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 1: lost the game like that Minnesota game, like special teams

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01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 1: was horrible. I also just love to see I wish

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01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 1: Paul was here for this discussion because I know he

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01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: kind of falls on another side of this that he

2158
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 1: feels the defense still is further away than I think

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01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 1: we all do. And I know that Deuce and I

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01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 1: do just from our conversations. I would love to see

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01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense in a position where they don't need

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01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 1: to hold the opponent to seventeen points to win the game.

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01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 1: They're not on the field the whole game. They want

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01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 1: to blame them for a loss. It's like how burnt

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Speaker 1: out where they at. Yeah, I just feel like there's

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01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:34,719
Speaker 1: so much pressure on the defense every time they play

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01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 1: one of these good quarterbacks to hold the fort. And

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01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 1: there's the record speaks for itself. When opponents score more

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01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: than twenty one points against the Patriots, they haven't won

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Speaker 1: a game in like two years when the opponent scores

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01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 1: into the twenties. So if that, if you know that

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01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: going into every single game, that amount of pressure is

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01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: I think at times insurmountable. And you know the emailer's

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Speaker 1: point of Okay, well they you know, they didn't hold

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Speaker 1: the fort against Minnesota, they weren't able to get the

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01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 1: stop against the Raiders. Like yeah, like all those things

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01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 1: can be true, but I can also point to a

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Speaker 1: million things that the offense did wrong in those games

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01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 1: too that even got them in those positions or cost

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01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 1: them games, like in the Raiders game, or you know

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01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati when Ormandre fumbles at the ten yard line

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01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 1: going in for the game winning score. Like this can

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01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 1: go both ways. But I just feel like, defensively, let's

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01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:27,600
Speaker 1: see what it looks like when they actually feel like

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01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 1: their offense is going to go toe to toe for

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01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: once with another good quarterback and they don't need to

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01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 1: pitch a shutout against Josh Allen to get just to

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01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 1: get a win. I would just love to see that

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01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 1: it was a miracle just to see a touchdown scored

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01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,680
Speaker 1: in the first like first part of the game, well

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01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 1: they didn't score seeing a bunch of fuel goals. The

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01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 1: opening drive. They their first opening drive touchdown of the

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01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 1: year was Thanksgiving night in Minnesota. That's thirteen weeks into

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01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 1: the season, and that was the first time that they

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01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 1: took the opening drive, which you practice all week long.

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01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:04,440
Speaker 1: You script, that's your game plan, right, that's your twenty

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01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 1: five players that you feel really good about going into

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01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:09,759
Speaker 1: a game, and it took them till Thanksgiving to score.

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Speaker 1: I mean that those are the types of things that

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01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:15,799
Speaker 1: I feel like. This defense is just always backs against

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01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 1: the wall, always behind the eight ball. They're always trailing.

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01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 1: You know, they got to get into some games where

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01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: the defense has a lead, and I think when we

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01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 1: see that, they do unlock that pass rush, you know,

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01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 1: UJ and jude On and those guys do get after

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01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 1: it against the bad teams when the Patriots played with

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01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: the lead. So I just would like to see that

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01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: before we go and sell on the defense. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the last question, and I don't know

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01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be the last one, just because we

2211
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 1: got a little bit of time left, and of course

2212
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 1: stick around. Evan's going four hours straight today. Catch twenty

2213
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: two coming after you, right, and then mock draft is

2214
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 1: my kind of We're gonna shoot a mock draft video,

2215
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 1: so the mock drafts will be out tomorrow. They'll be

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01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 1: a mock draft video. There'll be big boards, which I mean,

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01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 1: we should probably tease this a little bit. I mean,

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01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 1: the big boards for us is a big We were

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01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 1: talking about it last night and now I have fifty one. Yeah,

2220
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 1: because Bijon Robinson is apparently in their radar. But I mean,

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01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 1: just for a little bit of context, I mean, we've

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01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this will be my twelve or

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01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 1: thirteenth year doing so it's fifty prospects, your favorite guys,

2224
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: your favorite fits, and it's uh and for me, when

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01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 1: I started doing it was like, how can I kind

2226
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: of hold myself accountable because I feel like everybody liked

2227
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,080
Speaker 1: es here's my mark draft, here's mock Draft twenty seven

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01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 1: point three, and oh yeah, I got that in mock

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01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 1: Draft twenty four point for you know, like it's just

2230
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: because like, all right, that's ridiculous. Like so every year

2231
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm just like, all right, fifty guys, how many can

2232
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 1: I get in? Last year was the first time of

2233
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 1: like twelve years, I didn't get any. So I blame

2234
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 1: macrow for that one, and we both I think we

2235
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 1: both took Cold Strange off of our big boys totally

2236
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 1: before I had Cold Strange. So usually what I do

2237
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 1: is I really try to focus on nailing the top

2238
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,640
Speaker 1: one hundred, like it when their first three picks, I

2239
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 1: just want to get those picks. And I took Cold

2240
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 1: Strange off because I thought it was a fourth rounder.

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01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 1: I would love how different draft feel would be if

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01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 1: we had a GM, like not build doing both. Like

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01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 1: I wonder like how much different it would be if

2244
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:00,560
Speaker 1: a separate person was a GM. I think you just

2245
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 1: have to pretend Matt grow is the GM, and that's

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01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 1: probably what it would be like, Like you have mac

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01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 1: Row kind of speaking for things and you know it

2248
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 1: is what it is. I just feel like that, you know,

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01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 1: just a little bit of conversations that I've been able

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01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 1: to have with mac Row is that his he's he's

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01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 1: a college guy through and through. That's how he came

2252
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,640
Speaker 1: up the ranks, was area scout and then you know,

2253
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 1: director of college Scouting and then director a player Personnel,

2254
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:31,480
Speaker 1: and his just knowledge of the recruiting trail and coaches

2255
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 1: and people out on campus and like things like that

2256
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: that you just need to you need to have that

2257
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 1: connection to like it was like what we were talking

2258
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 1: about earlier about like knowing the kid and like knowing

2259
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:46,519
Speaker 1: his mental makeup and knowing his attitude. And I think

2260
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 1: that's really difficult to do as a head coach slash

2261
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 1: general manager when Bill all Fall is focused on his

2262
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 1: own team and then he switches gears to then going

2263
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 1: into the draft. Whereas a guy like mac Row, you know,

2264
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 1: those guys are on the road constantly. They're at these games,

2265
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,720
Speaker 1: Like they don't just watch guys on TV like we

2266
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 1: all do. Like they're going to Ohio State and watching

2267
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and jig but play football up clothes. And

2268
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: then they're going and they're talking to his receivers coach,

2269
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 1: and then they're talking to you know, his buddy that

2270
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 1: he's roommates with. Yeah, Like they just go down that

2271
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. And I think it's difficult to then come

2272
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 1: in in January and say, well, these are the best

2273
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 1: guys I see on film, but not having that background,

2274
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:34,679
Speaker 1: in that connection. So that's why I'm optimistic. The only

2275
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:36,880
Speaker 1: reason why I'm optimistic is because when I talked to

2276
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:41,760
Speaker 1: Macro about the draft, he has that he loves that

2277
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 1: type of stuff, like you can truly healing. Like that's

2278
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 1: my issue. It's like I wonder when it came to

2279
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 1: Cole Strange, like where was Matt grow on that at fourteen?

2280
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean at fourteen, well at that pick? Yeah, where

2281
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: was he? And how much it was like Bill being

2282
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 1: the GM and the coach like just trumping the decisions.

2283
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:02,679
Speaker 1: I think the which my read on the Cole Strange

2284
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 1: situation was that he I think Bill felt like they

2285
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 1: really needed a guard because of free agency, because Ted

2286
01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 1: Carris left, they traded Shack Mason, and they created this

2287
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 1: hole for themselves at guard, and I think Bill really

2288
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 1: felt that they needed a guard and the board that

2289
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 1: they had stacked had Cole Strange as the best guard

2290
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 1: on the board, So they took the guard. But would

2291
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 1: that be what mac Row would do? Probably not, because

2292
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 1: I think a lot of executives around the league just

2293
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 1: look at it as talent, like let's just grab talent, right,

2294
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:39,720
Speaker 1: and so I think mac Row would look at it

2295
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 1: and say, well, our number one rated player on our

2296
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 1: vertical board is so and so. So I think the

2297
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:51,719
Speaker 1: GM would probably take that player, whereas the coach looks

2298
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 1: at it from two different hats. Of where's my biggest

2299
01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 1: hole on my depth chart and what's my board staff?

2300
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 1: Act like, we don't have a left guard right now

2301
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 1: if the season were to start tomorrow, Cole Strange. That's

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01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:08,680
Speaker 1: where I think like having a separate GM would be

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Speaker 1: very helpful. I feel like if you had the separate GM,

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01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't have let all those people go to

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01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 1: create that big of a hole for you before the draft. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just think that the problem that I agree and

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01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:22,600
Speaker 1: I think the issue is that I think where the

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01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 1: Patriots are right now, they need to be in a

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01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 1: position where talent trumps need in some mixed respects. And

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about of both sides of my mouth, because

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01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take me John Robinson. But at the same time,

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01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 1: I feel like talent, they don't have a good enough

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01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 1: roster to start worrying about who's going to start at

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01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 1: left guard in Week one. They just need to get

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01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: the best collection of talent that they possibly can through

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01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:52,759
Speaker 1: the draft and then figure out where everybody fits after

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01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 1: the fact. So when you're rebuilding like this, that's I

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01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 1: think Trump's everything is, let's get the best football players

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01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 1: in the building and not necessarily think about it from

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01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 1: that coaching perspective of building a depth chart. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 1: I remember literally being in the draft show and our

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01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 1: pick was coming up and the people that I was

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01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 1: like so excited about, we're still available, and then we

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01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:14,880
Speaker 1: traded back and got cold strange and I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: who's your guys? It from Florida State. Yeah, I think

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01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 1: John I was sick. Yeah, I was like, are you kidding?

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01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 1: Like he was literally still there. It was all falling

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01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 1: into place and t back. Yeah. All right, So last question,

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01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, famous listener Boston Cream favorite? Um, very simple,

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01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: direct to the point. Hello state, your amount rush were

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01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 1: of desserts. So I love I love desserts, and I

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01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 1: thought this was a good one. And I'm also going

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01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 1: to add one part in honor of Boston Cream. What's

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01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 1: your what's your favorite donut? Oh at, it doesn't have

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01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 1: to be at Dunkin Donuts, but it could be if

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01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:54,880
Speaker 1: also Duncan does not have the best donuts. It's pretty

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01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 1: much no, I no, no, I know, I know, I know,

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01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 1: I know. I mean, we'd all love to go to

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01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: PVD don'tut Duncan. There's Kenny's already right there. Sorry, Kenny Dessert.

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Speaker 1: I think I gotta go ice cream. I love ice cream. Yeah,

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01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 1: just ice Wait, you need to say flavor begun. Um

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01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: my latest one know that? Uh that that my I

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01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 1: guess he's like my stepdad down. I don't know when

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01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 1: your mom gets remarried when you're in your forties, do

2345
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 1: you call the guy your stepdad? It's like he's Dawn

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01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 1: love Dawn Dawn. Peanut butter Sundays, Holy crap, those are

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01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 1: delicious peanut butter sauce, ice cream. And even we're not

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01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 1: speaking your language. I know we're going dairy heavy, but

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01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 1: it was cream chocolate chip, ice cream, peanut butter Sunday.

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01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 1: Gotta have the whip cream cherry nuts. See, I'm weird

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01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 1: because I feel like, like, like ice cream is complimentary too,

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01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 1: like the desserts like and like, yeah, so ice cream

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01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 1: is great, but I wouldn't well answer that, what's so?

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01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 1: What are you picking? Then I'm torn because I really

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01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 1: like apple pie with ice cream incredible. But then I'm

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01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 1: also I love sweet potato pie, but I like that's

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01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:11,879
Speaker 1: only seasonal. And then I also love cheesecake, Like I'm cheesecake.

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01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 1: Cheesecake is again not something that we can have, but

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01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 1: but something I love like cheesecake, especially at cheesecake factory

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01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 1: endless flavors. It's just I can't, are you ice cream?

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01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 1: What flavor? Specific place? Cookies and cream. I'm not super

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01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 1: picky about the place. I just like when it's like

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01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 1: a real nice part serve that's nice and creamy, and

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01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:34,520
Speaker 1: you can tell it's a quality ice cream. And then

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01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 1: it's such an Alexander that wasn't alex answer? Wait for

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01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 1: this one? Fruit salad? Like all the fruit is my

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01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,480
Speaker 1: favorite thing in the world. I think I housed my

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Speaker 1: weight in grapes last night. I love fresh fruit and

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01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:58,320
Speaker 1: fruit salad dessert. It's just a salad ice cream. What

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01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 1: are the fruits? Potato chips? If we ever have a

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Speaker 1: polo and don't let Alex bring the dessert, I would

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Speaker 1: bake all of you. I would like that. But it

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Speaker 1: has to be dairy free though, all right, So I'm

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01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: just gonna go. I'm gonna go pre dairy. Who's your

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01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 1: flowers of dessert? Oreo cheesecake. Oh that's great, that's an

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01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 1: amazing Yeah. I mean you're you're speaking my language right now.

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Speaker 1: I have a very very bad sweet tooth. So I

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01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:31,280
Speaker 1: would say Oreo cheesecake. Uh, nothing beats in great hot

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01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:35,400
Speaker 1: fudge brownie Sunday Like that's that's just quality for me.

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Speaker 1: I really, I'm old school. I've a nice piece of

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01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 1: birthday cake is still like really solid to me, like

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01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:47,440
Speaker 1: some good frosting, marble cake, some good frosting. I really

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01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 1: like that. You don't like marble cake. You get a

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01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:54,120
Speaker 1: little bit of both. It's the perfect scenario, a little

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01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 1: bit of how could you not like that? And then

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01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 1: it's Matt Rushmore right, so you gotta go for Yeah,

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01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 1: I do like a nice chocolate fudge cake, like just

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01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 1: like multi layers. I just said, yeah, I have a

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01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 1: very bad sweet too. I gotta throw one more up

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Speaker 1: and I make it now is cookie skillet? Like make

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01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 1: it iron skillets? Make the cookie and then put some

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01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 1: ice cream on it? So good? And why does it?

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01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 1: Why do you? I don't know if you guys agree

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01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 1: with this, But I have ice cream. I need whipp

2395
01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 1: cream too. Why do you need ice cream and whipped cream?

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01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 1: What is it about the two contrasting textures that make it?

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01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 1: But I gotta have whipped cream on. It's a good one.

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01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:35,760
Speaker 1: And dug a Donuts rules, Sorry, not very sweet, but

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Speaker 1: I love cape cod. I don't know. I'm a salty girl.

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Speaker 1: I guess so some cape cod potato chips like just

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01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:49,040
Speaker 1: yeah chips a dessert though, like a dessert chip, snack sandwich.

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Speaker 1: It's empty. Bullshit. We got her, We got her, I

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01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 1: first swear. Crap, darn it. That's good. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap the things up. Don't forget the stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: Catch twenty two coming up next and doubt. Like we said,

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Speaker 1: three weeks away from the draft, but we are just

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01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 1: going to be pumping out stuff for the draft. Mock drafts,

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01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 1: big boards, all kinds of analysis. I haven't wrote up

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Speaker 1: a thing today. If you missed it, go check that

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Speaker 1: out as well. And we'll have our guys back on Tuesday,

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