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Here we go our two. 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: It is a Tuesday, one of my favorite fifteen minute 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: segments of the week. 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: We are live. 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: It's the Herd wherever you may be, however you may 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: be watching, listening, whatever the platform is. Thanks for making 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: us part of your day. So Nick Ryde will be 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: on in about five minutes. Tough decision this week on 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: the Herd hierarchy. And I said this about the Green 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: Bay Packers Tuck her Craft out, Mica out, Christian Watson 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: out Kenny Clark in a trade out. That's for their 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: top six players. They're not the same team. They are 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: not it's the same team. They don't make the hurt hierarchy. Sorry, 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: well what about last week? 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: What about it? 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: They got two of their top three stars hurt, maybe 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: their top two stars hurt. Here we go on a Tuesday. 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: The hurd hierarchy. 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: Heard hierarchy time. Now go the top ten NFL teams 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 3: according to College. 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: Number ten. 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: I'll put Philadelphia in seven of their nine wins, though 29 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: of coming one score games, they're three and five when 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: allowing twenty one plus points. And in the playoffs you're 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: gonna face better quarterbacks. Their defense it's excellent, the roster 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: is excellent, but I don't trust Jalen Hurts or Nick 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: Ceriani in big spots. 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: Again. 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: They play the Commanders twice in the next three weeks, 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: so they're gonna flex and look impressive, But this offense 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: feels like it's been broken. 38 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: Since week one. Number nine the Jags. 39 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: You can't run on them, and Liam Cohen has done 40 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: wonders for Trevor Lawrence's confidence. 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: He's running more. 42 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: They have the number one scoring offense and number two 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: scoring defense on their five game winning streak. Do I 44 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: trust them in a big spot? No, But this is 45 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: the closest version of the Trevor Lawrence we all fell 46 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: in love with at Clemson. 47 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: I have the Jags at nine. Number eight. 48 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: The Bills, listen, they got totally worked for the first 49 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: half of that game. After losing to New England, everybody thinks, well, 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: they scored on five straight touchdown drives. Okay, they do 51 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: run the ball, but are so overly dependent on Superman 52 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: at quarterback. Yes, Josh Allen has been very good in 53 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: December games. 54 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: I'll give you that. 55 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: And in the last couple of weeks they have almost 56 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: six hundred total yards. You know Josh Allen does, so 57 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not great. Don't trust them situationally, 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: don't trust anybody with a ball in their hands other 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: than Josh Allen. 60 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: I have them at eight, number seven. 61 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Elite coaching, maybe the best coaching staff this year in 62 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: the league. Sala on defense doing it with smoking mirrors 63 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: in Kyle Shanahan. Four wins in a row, all by 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: ten plus points. Brock pretty finally, I thought this week 65 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: finally looked totally healthy, had a lot of juice, a 66 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: lot of energy. I mean, there are four losses of 67 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: come against good teams, the Rams and the Jags and 68 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: the Texans and the Bucks. So they beat the teams 69 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: they should and right now on third down with Brock Purty, 70 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: they move the chains. So this is a very dangerous team. 71 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: Number six. 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: But Seattle's got a big boy defense. Sam Darnold. Yes, 73 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: he leads the NFL in giveaways, but he also leads 74 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: in yards per attempt. It is a big playoffense that 75 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: can also play with the lead. They can play conservatively 76 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: and win because they can run the ball well coached 77 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: played defense. Second best oks right now to win the 78 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty three straight games not allowing somebody one 79 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: hundred yards. Meaning if you beat them, you know Sam 80 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: Darnold's gonna get his thirteen possessions. Jsn's gonna get thirteen possessions. 81 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: That running game is gonna work. I think they're going 82 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: to be a really tough out Seattle at six. Number five, 83 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: I still like the Patriots. They had a bad half. 84 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: It happens. They're a young team missing their left tackle 85 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: and their left guard. Their issue is they're not very 86 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: good in the red zone on either side of the ball, 87 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: and that's why I don't think they're a super Bowl team. 88 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: They're not good defensively. They need another draft. I've been 89 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: saying it all year. They're ahead of schedule. They need 90 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: another draft. They need more help on the offensive line 91 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: and more help in the secondary. Number four, the Bears 92 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: tell me what they don't do. They plan in bad 93 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: weather very well. They run the ball, they're dynamic, great 94 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: offensive coach, excellent o line, take the ball away. 95 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: What don't they do? They're built for January. 96 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: Well, you know. 97 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: There can be Caleb's complete percentage. Lord, he's so gifted. 98 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just gonna eight and two over their last 99 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: ten games. Number one rush offense since Week five, number 100 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: two in big plays. They feel like a team that 101 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: could end up in the conference championship. Tell me what 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: they don't do, complete bubble screens. Okay, you got me there, 103 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: That's what college quarterbacks need. 104 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: I have them at number four, number three. 105 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: I think the Texans defense is the best unit in 106 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: pro football. They're eight to zero if they can just 107 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: score twenty points. Number one scoring defense. I mean they 108 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: face that Rams offense early in the season, held in 109 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: the fourteen points. And I've always liked CJ. Stroud. I 110 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: don't get the criticisms. If you give him two and 111 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: a half seconds, he's outstanding. I really like Houston. I 112 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: think they're gonna make the AFC Championship. I'm not sure 113 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: who they're gonna face, probably Denver, But I think the 114 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: Texans right now are a bye bye bye Number two Denver. Listen, 115 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: can we stop arguing about bow Knicks. I've been comparing 116 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: him to Caleb Williams for weeks. I wish he was 117 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: a little more consistent, but the guy is an unbelievable athlete. 118 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: He doesn't take sacks. I said he's a right handed 119 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: Steve Young. He was dreadful for about a four week 120 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: period earlier this year. Well, Caleb couldn't get the operations 121 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: down in September. But between Caleb and bow Knicks, we 122 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: got to stop doubting them. Opposing teams, by the way, 123 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: are three to ten after facing Denver, so they beat you, 124 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: and they beat you up. 125 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: Number one. Listen. 126 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: The rams most complete roster in the NFL. Although I 127 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: don't love their corners, out gained their opponents by in 128 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: the last month by over five hundred yards. But Blake 129 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: Korum has now popped at running back, so they have 130 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: a one to two punch. They have four tight ends 131 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: who are capable. Devonte will probably be out for three weeks. 132 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: They don't get the pass rush. I think they should 133 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: for the talent they have, but some of that is. 134 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: None of their. 135 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: Pass rushers outside of Puna Ford, who's a run stopper, 136 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: they don't. They're all kids. They're not in their prime yet. 137 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: I have the Rams at number one, No Packers. I'm sorry, 138 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: they're not the same team today. Take out Watson, Micah, 139 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark in the trade and craft. I have them 140 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: at eleven, Chargers at twelve. With that, Nick Wright, first 141 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: things first stops by all right, herd hierarchy. 142 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: What don't you like? 143 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 4: Well, listen, I really like a lot of it. Most notably, 144 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 4: I feel like the Niners have flown under the radar 145 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: all year long. They're alive for the one seed right 146 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: now despite all the injuries. I think it's Shanahan's best 147 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: coaching job to date. So I like how high you 148 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 4: have them, Ram, Seahawks, Niners. That division them all having 149 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: ten or eleven wins is remarkable. I think the Texans 150 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: are That might be a tiny bit high, but I 151 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: think the Texans are a terrifying team right now. So 152 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 4: I agree with you. I only really have one real gright. Okay, 153 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: why are the Patriots ahead of the. 154 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: Bills Because we just tell me, Okay, this is not 155 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff Committee. Head to head, isn't the 156 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: be all end all? They played six quarters New England 157 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: was better significantly in six of the eight quarters they played. 158 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: New England was significantly better. I like New England's coach. 159 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: The game meant more for Buffalo the season. Sean mcdermot's 160 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: job could have been in trouble this game at halftimes, 161 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: like we beat him the first time. We outschemed him 162 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: in the first half, and then the Patriots, missing their 163 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: left tackling left guard, really struggled to sustain drives. 164 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 2: And that's my reason, man. 165 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: I feel I guess, I just feel very differently. The 166 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 4: first matchup is twenty to twenty with ninety seconds left, 167 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 4: so I don't know how we got the Patriots thoroughly 168 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: outplayed on the first four quarters of the season. That 169 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: game came down to the wire, and the second matchup, 170 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 4: Buffalo systematically walked to them down and I and they 171 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 4: did it because they have a great running game, and 172 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 4: now that Patrick's hurt, they have the best healthy player 173 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: in football and Josh Allen. I just think in a 174 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: wide open AFC, the Bills are very scary and deserving 175 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 4: and I trust them more than I trust New England, 176 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: particularly after this matchup. But other than that, Colin and 177 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: I'm not sure about Philly. Let me add one other thing, Philly. 178 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 4: Did Philly fix things or did Philly face the Raiders? 179 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: I'm not sure so that Philly would be maybe Green 180 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 4: Bay in place of Philly, But otherwise I think it's 181 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: a really solid hierarchy. 182 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 183 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: I think it's like when a college powerhouse faces like 184 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: an FCS team, You're like, oh, I want forty eight 185 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: to seven. You're like, they play Alabama next week before 186 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: I get to Mahomes and I and I will get 187 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. 188 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: So I I said this earlier. 189 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: And if you had a gifted child that was on 190 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: the spectrum a little bit, not rain Man, but I 191 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: on the spectrum a little bit. And they were literally 192 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: doing Beethoven on the piano at eight years old. I 193 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't lose a ton of sleep. If they wore their 194 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: pajamas backwards five days a week. 195 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: I'll live with that. 196 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to live with Josh Allen, Mahomes and Caleb 197 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: throwing some picks lower completion percentage. They're Beethoven at nine 198 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: year old. Guys, Caleb made throws this week that looked 199 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: like optical illusions. I don't care. I don't care that 200 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: he's fifty nine percent. I've watched the DJ Moore play 201 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: twenty times. I don't even understand how he threw it. 202 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: So my thing on Caleb is, Guys, it's like Josh Allen, 203 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: I would take less of a completion percentage this year 204 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: if he ever threw the ball down the field, which 205 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't. He doesn't have a receiver. Where are you 206 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: on Caleb? And the argument that you know he's just 207 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: not accurate enough. 208 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: Well, listen, all you could have hoped for this year 209 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: was month over month progression over the course of the season, 210 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 4: and see could he get better at the layups while 211 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 4: keeping the spectacular And that's what he's done. And there 212 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 4: are Listen, he is still in a place in his career, 213 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: Colin where his low lights are going to be really 214 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: grizzly when a player like like Matt Stafford take him 215 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: the polar opposite example. Stafford's ten worst throws of the year, 216 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 4: none of them are like, what the hell happened there? 217 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, it's just he thought he either got 218 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: tricked or he thought he could fit it in. Trust 219 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 4: his arm too much. Caleb's ten worst throws, it's like, 220 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: did that missage target by twelve yards? Maybe, but his 221 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: ten best throws this season can go up against any 222 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: other player in the league. And when you marry that 223 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: to a dynamic, dominant running game, a really sharp head coach, 224 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 4: and a defense that I honestly think is not that 225 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 4: good but it's opportunistic and maybe that's lucky, but whatever 226 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 4: it is, they force a bunch of turnovers. That's a 227 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: scary team. And if the NFC playoffs, if they can 228 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 4: keep winning and make it so a team like the Rams, 229 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 4: who I think have been the best team in football, 230 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: have to come to Chicago and deal with that rushing 231 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: attack and then Caleb doing pardon me, four or five 232 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: spectacular things a game, that would be really scary. Like, 233 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 4: I am fully confident that Caleb Williams is going to 234 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: be a very good quarterback in this league, and I 235 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: think he is bordering on almost already being there. And 236 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: this year we are seeing more of what we didn't 237 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: see as much as rookie year, of the moments where 238 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,359 Speaker 4: you're like, wait, he can be a super star quarterback 239 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 4: in this league. He still needs, obviously to clean some 240 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: of the stuff up, but I feel like he's gotten 241 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 4: better in that regard. But it's hard to watch that 242 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 4: throw through four defenders into the back of the end 243 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 4: zone against Cleveland and not be like, man, this is 244 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: a special, unique. 245 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: Talent on our hands. 246 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: So and I've said, if you like Caleb, you have 247 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: to at least acknowledge bo Nicks to something because they're 248 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: both uneven, both great late, both really athletic. And I 249 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: was saying this about bo Nicks. Sometimes you'll see this 250 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: in a lot of different businesses, that a coach finds 251 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: a player that he loves and not everybody else loves him. 252 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: There's not a unanimous agreement. Sean Payton before the draft, 253 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: loved bo Nicks because he had a little bit of 254 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: bo Nicks, little smaller guy in Drew Brees and he's like, oh, 255 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: that's a more athletic Drew Brees. I thought this game 256 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: was one of those games like when the Bears went 257 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: to Philly and all the doubters went, Okay, maybe they're good. 258 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: I think all the doubter on bon Nicks. I think 259 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: he's so much more athletic than he gets credit for. 260 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: I said, he's a right handed Steve Young like he 261 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: just he is fast. 262 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: I watched him twice handed Steve, It's the Steve Young's 263 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 4: it's one of the twelve greatest quarterbacks ever. Let's let 264 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 4: this is where you and I, Colin are just different broadcasters, 265 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: because a month ago you and I were in lockstep 266 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: on bow Knicks. We both thought he wasn't very good, 267 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: and now you've got him as a right handed Steve Young, 268 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: and I feel pretty tethered to my previous take. But 269 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: you have none of you like Hey, new information, new games. 270 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: I've changed my opinion deal with in America. I don't 271 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: have that ability the way you do it, at least 272 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 4: at least in that regard. Here's what I will say 273 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: in defense of bon Nicks. In fairness to bow Knicks, 274 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 4: I thought the Chiefs game that he played was up 275 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: to that moment, the best game of his career. And 276 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: then two weeks later, I thought the the Washington game 277 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: was the best game of his career, and then this 278 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: game against Green Bay was hands down the best game 279 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 4: of his career. So in the last month or so, 280 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: I think he has played the three best games of 281 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: his career. He obviously is not too scared of a 282 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 4: big moment, and the team obviously has been excellent all 283 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 4: year long. I still my gut tells me that that 284 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: Packers game is more of the aberration than it's going 285 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: to be the trend. But I have to be fair 286 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: and be open to the possibility that I was wrong 287 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 4: about him. Thus far, I have been dead wrong obviously 288 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 4: about the Broncos. They've been excellent. My gut still tells 289 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: me quarterback is their weak link. And even though they're 290 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: going to be the one seed, when they don't make 291 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: the super Bowl, it will be because of failings at 292 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: the quarterback position. But he has an opportunity, and Sean 293 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: Payton has an opportunity to prove all the doubt and skeptics, 294 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: of which I was one of the loudest wrong, or 295 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: we're going to look back on these last four games 296 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: and say that was a positive blip, but a blip nonetheless, 297 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: and he's more of the player we saw the first 298 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: ten weeks. But the game against the Packers was stunning 299 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: and he was excellent. Can he do anything close to 300 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: that come the postseason? We'll see, But he's trending in 301 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: the right direction. That's as far as all go. You, 302 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: on the other hand, have him passed Fran Tarkington already 303 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: and approaching Steve Young, So it's just different new information, 304 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: as you said, the new information. 305 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: So I think there's a difference. This league allows forty 306 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: percent of the teams in the playoffs, and Pittsburgh is 307 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: when one of these teams like, hey, we made the 308 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: playoffs four inches away. I think Kansas City missing the 309 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: playoffs a good thing. It's cold water to the face. 310 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: It's like forty percent of the teams get in. You 311 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: couldn't make it, and like in the last three they're 312 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: like twenty fourth in big plays. I think they got 313 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: to take the boat back to port and rebuild it. 314 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a tweak. I don't think if 315 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: you look at the last three years numbers, it's a tweak. 316 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: Chris Jones, Travis Kelcey, they let go at Joe Toney 317 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: left tackle. Still you're not sure and that this is 318 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: a great league. You can do New England. You can 319 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: literally go awful to really good fast. But I don't 320 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: think it's a tweak. I think they need their fourth 321 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: best player Mahomes, Creed Humphrey, Trent McDuffie, and you get 322 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: to well Kay Travis Kelsey had some drops. 323 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 4: Chris Jones still an excellent player. Chris is too far 324 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: on Chris Joe. So listen, this is all right. You 325 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 4: said they were twenty fourth in the league the last 326 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: three years in big plays. Again, I know nobody wants 327 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 4: to hear this from me right now, and I wasn't 328 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 4: gonna go here. Where are they ranking super Bowls in 329 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: the league in the last three years? I understand that. Listen, 330 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 4: this Chiefs season, let me be very clear, even if 331 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: Mahomes had been hurt, this season was a failure. Okay. 332 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 4: I had held out hope that the team they showed 333 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: they could be against the Ravens and the Lions was 334 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 4: the team they were going to be. And then after 335 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 4: the bye they were bad every single week. They were 336 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: bad against the Broncos, they were bad against the Cowboys. 337 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 4: They were bad against the Colts and lucky to win 338 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: that game, and then bad against the Texans. And against 339 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: the Chargers they have a thirteen to three lead going 340 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: into halftime and then give away a touchdown right four 341 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: half like a bad team. So they deserve to take 342 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 4: their medicine here, And you are correct in this regard. 343 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 4: I think we are going to see over the next 344 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: few weeks, Colin where numbers be damned, how much Patrick 345 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: was holding together on his own. I think they're going 346 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: to lose to the Titans. I think with the offensive 347 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 4: line with four starters or four tackles down, with no 348 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: running game, with the issues they're having right now, and 349 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: Gardnermanshoe playing quarterback, you're going to see how much Patrick 350 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 4: was carrying, even though his numbers had been suffering the 351 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: last month and a half. As well. With that set, 352 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 4: I don't think it is a complete overhaul. They have 353 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 4: rebuilt the offensive line. The left tackle they drafted in 354 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: the first round was excellent. He got his wrists broken 355 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 4: and was out. The left guard is a second year 356 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 4: player who's a fine players and not great players. Fine 357 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: player in Suamattaya create humper you mentioned Tray Smith is 358 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 4: that center. Right guard, right tackle will be a question mark. 359 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 4: That's one spot. The wide receivers need to develop. They 360 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 4: have spent I've seen Rashi Rice be great and Xavier 361 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 4: Worthy has great traits. They need to develop on the 362 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 4: other side of the ball. They need a pass rush 363 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: other than Chris Jones. So it's by no means, you know, 364 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: a flawless team right now, even a great team, But 365 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 4: they're about to have the tenth eleventh something like that. 366 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: Pick of the draft and a third place schedule, and 367 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 4: Patrick is going to come back with a vengeance. You 368 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 4: address pass rush in the draft, you sign and or 369 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 4: draft a running back. You continue to develop your secondary 370 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: the way they have ever since Bag's has been there, 371 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 4: and they'll be fine. But listen, this is the end 372 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 4: of a chapter. It is as good of a seven 373 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: year run as any team in NFL history has ever 374 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 4: had seven Final fours, five super Bowl appearances, three rings. 375 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 4: Nobody's ever done better than that over the course of 376 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: seven years. You could argue the steel Curtain Steelers, that's 377 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 4: kind of a Tomato Tomadel thing. They didn't make as 378 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 4: many super Bowls, but they did win one more. But 379 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 4: this is now a new chapter and they need to 380 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 4: see how they take advantage of a better draft pick 381 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 4: than they've had in a decade, a potentially softer schedule 382 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 4: and they've had in a decade, and Patrick Mahomes post injury. 383 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 4: It is the exact same process tom had to go through. 384 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 4: Win in his eighth year as a starter, he blew 385 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 4: out his knee. The next year they won ten games. 386 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 4: They weren't that great. The year after that they were 387 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: a fourteen win juggernaut. Once again. We'll see what the 388 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: Chiefs look like a year from now. But I think 389 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 4: it's more significant tweaks than it is total overhaul. And 390 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 4: if he's back week one next year, they will be 391 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 4: the AFC West's favorites again if Patrick's back. 392 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: So that's how I look at it. With chapters. 393 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: There was the bon Knicks, I'd bench him chapter and 394 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: bo Nix is now Steve Young chapter, so we both 395 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: talk in chapters. 396 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: I mean, that's one way to do it. I suppose 397 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: that's one way to do That's why you're the greatest. 398 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 4: That's why you're the greatest. 399 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Nick? 400 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Right? 401 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: First things first, listen a new information. 402 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: Bonnick's stunk in the first month, and now he looks 403 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: pretty great to me. 404 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 405 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 3: and noon Easter nin a em Pacific on Fox Sorts 406 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 407 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 5: Hey Is, Covino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio Now, 408 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 5: in addition to hearing us live weekdays from five to 409 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 5: seven pm Eastern two to four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 410 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 5: We're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for 411 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 5: the show. 412 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: Yup. 413 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 5: That's right, you can now watch Covino and Rich live 414 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 5: on YouTube every day. 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They 425 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 6: everybody got excited, my health included, after a couple of 426 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 6: wins and Quinn Williams popping up. Unfortunately, the loss of 427 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 6: the Vikings nearly seals their fate. Here's what Dak has 428 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 6: to say about their future this season. 429 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 7: Definitely surprised, especially you know after the bar week, the 430 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 7: trades get rolling like we did for those few weeks, 431 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 7: and then watch the confidence just skyrocket. 432 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: It's tough. 433 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm definitely surprised, definitely hurt, pissed off, frustrated, 434 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 7: But all I can do is is get better tomorrow? 435 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: It's not on him. Pass Pro's not great. I do 436 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: think their future is actually pretty bright. Of course, I 437 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: think those two first round picks, what if they got 438 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: Caleb Downs at safety and the number two edge rusher. 439 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: In the draft? 440 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: Wait? 441 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: Wait, Caleb Downs, how are they getting him? 442 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: Well, if you see, there's three tackles everybody loves. There's 443 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks potentially everybody loves. It's a great edge rusher draft. 444 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: There's a defensive tackle or three in the top fifteen picks. 445 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: There's a couple of wide rests. It's a huh, somebody's 446 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: gonna fall. Somebody's gonna fall. Caleb Downs falls arguably the 447 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: best total player in the draft or second third. There's 448 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot that's good. 449 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 6: Okay, so let's say they get down. What do you 450 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 6: think happens with Pickens? Do you think they keep him? 451 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 2: Tagging him? 452 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: Well? 453 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: Why? 454 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: Wide receivers the one position and we know this to 455 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: be true. College football gives you about twenty a year 456 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: that can play immediately. 457 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 6: I don't know, man, They're hosting the Chargers this weekend. 458 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 6: I'm on the Chargers in this one. I love Herbert 459 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 6: in this spot against this awful, awful secondary of Dallas. 460 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 6: I think this eliminates them. If the Eagles beat Washington, 461 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 6: they're out. 462 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: So Dallas done. Dallas a very good home team. Oh really, 463 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: they just lost to the Vikings boy J J. McCarthy 464 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: on Sunday Football. 465 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 4: They couldn't stop. 466 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: JJ, who you think is rotten? 467 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 6: And I don't know, he's looking pretty good if I 468 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 6: f I saw on the last couple of games. All right, 469 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 6: let's move on to the Kansas City Chiefs. You know, 470 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 6: I don't know what Nick was drinking this early in 471 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 6: the morn, but he seems to think this is a 472 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 6: quick turnaround. Listen, Mahomes is down. It's not only the ACL, 473 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 6: but it's also the LCL. Colin long road back. We're 474 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 6: looking at maybe nine months at best case scenario. 475 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 2: Anyway, here's Tom Brady's advice to Mahomes. 476 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 8: The one you could do is folks on what's ahead 477 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 8: of you and not look back and just say, Okay, 478 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 8: this is part of what my career is going to be. 479 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 8: And a lot of people have gone through it and 480 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 8: a lot of people have overcome it. 481 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: You've just got to put. 482 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 8: As much diligence into the rehab process, and I always 483 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 8: feel like the faster you rehab, the faster you can 484 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 8: get back to practicing the sport that you know you love. 485 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 9: Yeah. 486 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 6: I know the optimism is out there for the Chiefs fans, 487 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 6: but let's be real, Colin, I'm looking at their salary 488 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 6: cap situation next year. Their third biggest cap hit is 489 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 6: Juwan Taylor, who's one of the lowest rated right tackles 490 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 6: in the league. Like, I don't know if you get 491 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 6: off that contract. I mean, Chris Jones, what do you 492 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 6: do with him? He showed up like every other half 493 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 6: for a few plays, like he had a rough. I 494 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 6: mean he's thirty two years old. You go look j Moore, 495 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 6: Remember they got him from the Niners. Oh, we got 496 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 6: our swing tackle. Didn't quite work out. I mean Christian Fulton, 497 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 6: the cornerback, he was not good. Michael Dana Pass Russ 498 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 6: are coming. I think you nailed this. They just don't 499 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 6: have a lot of good players. I'm sorry, and Reid 500 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 6: and Mahomes cannot continue to mask the stench of this laster. 501 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: And Mahomes has spent some of his career limping. Now 502 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: his first major surgery. Yeah, you think he'll be just 503 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: the same player. But it's Mahomes is what thirty one 504 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 1: years old now, I mean, and he's gone through a 505 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: lot of football and take him some hits, and he 506 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: hasn't had a good old line in the last several years. 507 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: You know, this game sneaks up on you. You get 508 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: to the end of your prime real quick. 509 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. So I floated to Kyle Pitts to the Chiefs, 510 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 6: and Chiefs fans are like, no, thank you, No, They're 511 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: trying to tell me. And again they're all over me 512 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 6: on social media. They want Justin Jefferson. 513 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: From the Vikings. 514 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 6: He's unhappy with JJ McCarthy, Like, how the hell are 515 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 6: the Chiefs getting Justin Jefferson. That's how desperate they are. 516 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 6: They know, let's be real, Collin that Tyreek kill Travis 517 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 6: kelce prime years with Mahomes, those were the best Chiefs teams, 518 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 6: without question. Since they lost Tyreek, they've had to win 519 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 6: different ways. I think they're kind of out of AMMO. 520 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 4: I don't know. 521 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 6: Do you think there's a big trade in the offing 522 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 6: for a Pickens. 523 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 2: I don't know. 524 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: I think Mahomes gets healthy, you know, I think Travis 525 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: Kelcey retires and I think they you know, they're more 526 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: than capable of nailing four good draft picks. They I don't. 527 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: I do not believe next year Denver's out of the 528 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's cap hit. They're gonna get better. Oh yeah, 529 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: the Chargers tackles come back. Oh yeah, they're going nowhere. 530 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: I think they come back next year. I think their 531 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: current reality is they need about six more really good, 532 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: not great, six more b plus players in their prime, 533 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: some through the draft, maybe one through a trade. But 534 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: it's again, I don't think it's a tweak. 535 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: If I don't. 536 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 6: The fact that the matter is the Bears. Your Bears 537 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 6: last year needed offensive line help. They just went and 538 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 6: got a couple guys because they can. 539 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 2: Afford Bears, the Bears. 540 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: The Bears have better players the Bears have with the 541 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: elite center, elite right guard, elite right tackle. 542 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, they stole tune. Remember Tony. 543 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: The Chiefs are like, we we couldn't afford him. We 544 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: had to lose him. He's great. That's a huge loss 545 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 2: for them. Yeah, Chiefs listen. 546 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: Receiving cor for the Bears. DJ Moore is better than 547 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: anybody Kansas City has. 548 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, old, was she Rice? 549 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 4: No? 550 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: You trust for she Rice. I don't trust him off 551 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: the field, forget on the field. 552 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, let's help he stays out of trouble this offseason 553 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 6: because it's a long one. All right, Let's go to 554 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 6: the final story. Colin and I love this. Hey, great 555 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 6: night in the NBA last night and Cooper Flag went off. 556 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 6: What a game from the eighteen year old. He had 557 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 6: forty two though it was only eighteen for another couple 558 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 6: of days. Unbelievable performance, forty two points, breaking Lebron's record. 559 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: Lebron put up thirty seven as a rookie back. 560 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 6: When you know two thousand and three, there was no 561 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 6: chat cheep, there's no Instagram or the record. 562 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: He averaged thirteen a game in October eighteen, a game 563 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: in November, he's averaging twenty for a game in December. 564 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: You are watching a star. Oh this Ken in December 565 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: right now? Seven he's shooting fifty four percent from the field, 566 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: twenty for a game. He's we always say this about 567 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks like this, they catch up to the speed. He 568 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: is now playing at NBA speed from college speed. He's 569 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: gonna end up this year averaging twenty one points a year, 570 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: twenty two points a year as an eighteen nineteen year old. 571 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 6: That's unbelievable. Here's Flag talking about the record that he's 572 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 6: set last night. 573 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 9: Oh, I mean, I'm not really focused on you know, 574 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 9: a lot of that stuff, and we're just focused on 575 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 9: being present, you know, day to day and trying to 576 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 9: get better and get as many wins as we can 577 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 9: because obviously we didn't win. So as tefan, really you 578 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 9: don't want to be happy or any of that, but 579 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 9: obviously he is court you know Si Sarah saying, you know, 580 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 9: trying to keep doing better from here. 581 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: I've said before his comp is a more aggressive Jason Tatum. 582 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: Look at Cooper Flagg's free throw attempts as a rookie, 583 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: he gets to the line, he is a more aggressive 584 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum. That's always been the knock on Tatum, like 585 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: he had Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown. You're like, where 586 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: Tatum go? Cooper flag On, I'm telling you he is. 587 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: You're looking at the best domestic rookie and the probably 588 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: since Lebron, I mean is he is a real player for. 589 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 6: The radio audience most points before turning nineteen, Lebron six 590 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 6: twenty five, Kobe five point thirty nine, Cooper Flag for 591 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 6: seventy nine to. 592 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: Most part before turning nineteen years old. That listen, man, 593 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: he's amazing. I'll just say this about Dallas. 594 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: They're gonna be. 595 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: Bad this year. 596 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 6: Nobody cares, but they're on Christmas agains Steph Curry. That's 597 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 6: gonna be fun to watch. Cooper Flagg, Colin. They have 598 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 6: to figure out how do we get rid of Anthony Davis. 599 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 6: I want to build around Cooper Flag. You can do 600 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 6: that pretty quickly, and then Kyrie's back next year. 601 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: I'm just telling you. 602 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 6: By all Cooper flagstock. If you sold it, I'm sorry. 603 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 6: That's like selling Tesla or in the early days. You 604 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 6: made a mistake. Colin, this kid is special. 605 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: Yep, no question he he is. 606 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean my favorite my thing about him that I 607 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: really like is that he is a really aggressive basketball. 608 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: He's aggressive defensively, he's aggressive attacking the basket. He's aggressive 609 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: creating contact. I mean a lot of what made Michael 610 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: and Kobe great was you know, they had that like instinct. 611 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: They wanted to bang up against you, they wanted to 612 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: create conflict. I mean, that's a big part of the NBA. 613 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: I've seen so many good players come into this league. 614 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: And they're finesse players. They don't want to be uncomfortable. 615 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: Cooper Flag from Maine, he's out there fighting caribou. I 616 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: mean that kid grew up. Nobody in Maine is soft. 617 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: He is an aggressive player and I love him. Jmack 618 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: with the News. 619 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: Well that's the news. Thanks for stopping by the Herd line. 620 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: You're not living on green smoothies at sixteen years old 621 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: in Maine. You're eating trees. You're sawing trees, lumber caribou. 622 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean you're like a fifteen minute walk to Nova Scotia. 623 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: We're just trying to survive. 624 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 625 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: and Noone Easter non a em Pacific. 626 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 6: We got a big East Big Ten battle on Fox 627 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 6: College Hoops Friday as Villanova takes on Wisconsin. It all 628 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 6: tips off Friday night at eight Eastern on Fox. 629 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you in just a couple of minutes 630 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: something that will blow your mind. So the NFL Offensive 631 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year odds have skyrocketed toward second round 632 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: pick to the Patriots, Trevon Henderson. So he was the 633 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: fourth running back taken, which I did not understand. He 634 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: was great this weekend. So this is what I said, taken. 635 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: This is what I said immediately on Monday after the draft, 636 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: traveon Henderson being second round pick, fourth running back taken. 637 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: Trevion Henderson, the running back out of Ohio State. He 638 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: may be the steel of the draft. So of the 639 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: two Ohio State backs, he's a better receiver, he's a 640 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: better pass blocker, he's a better runner. They've got themselves 641 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: the steal of the draft a home run. I would 642 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: not be shocked if he's not a top five or 643 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: six running back in the league. Yeah, that guy smart. 644 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: For the record, anybody else notice how well New England's 645 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: now drafting offensively since Belichick left running back check, quarterback check, 646 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 1: left tackle check. Belichick, for the record, was not a 647 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: fan of Drake May at Carolina, complained about his footwork. 648 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: How's that working out? I mean, Bell can still spot 649 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: talent is just a different kind. It should also be 650 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: noted that Nick Cassario left Bellchick, where Belichick had his 651 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: thumb on him, went to Houston. Look at how well 652 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: Houston's Nick Cassario has drafted without Belichick's influence. 653 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. 654 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: C J. Stroud first round, Will Anderson, Nico Collins, Derek Stingley, 655 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Petrie, Kamari Lassiter in the second round, Kaylon Bullock 656 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: third round, steel safety out of USC Woody Mark Steele. 657 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: Houston has cross drafting. Nick Cassario has crushed at Houston 658 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: once he moved away from Belichick. The Patriots for eight 659 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: years could not draft offense. Belichick out vrabel in left tackle, quarterback, 660 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: star running back, the Hoodie. The hood was getting in 661 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: front of his draft vision. And when I hear well, 662 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: Belichick is up for NFL jobs, Okay, he better not 663 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: have any say on personnel. Look at Houston and look 664 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: at New England now, I mean there, I mean, Houston 665 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: has been one of the best draft teams in the 666 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: league for three years. You know, we pay attention to 667 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: the coaches and the quarterback. Nick Casario is crushing it 668 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: in Houston. Okay, So I'm gonna throw this. 669 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: This stat at you. 670 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: So we all know that nothing works with the New 671 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: York Jets. People have been with the Jets, they leave. 672 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean Robert Solin now is the best coordinator in 673 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: the league doing it with smoking mirrors. So if you 674 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: take out Sam Darnold's New York experience, and you go 675 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: to Carolina. So for the first time in Sam's career, 676 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: he did not play. He sat the first eleven games 677 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: in Carolina that season. That first season, if you start 678 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: November twenty seventh, twenty twenty two, He's had thirty eight starts. 679 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: In those thirty eight starts, his win percentage is seventy 680 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: six percent higher than Brady and Mahomes. The percentage of games. 681 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: Donald has had one hundred plus passer rating in those 682 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: thirty eight starts, sixty six percent. 683 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: Higher than Brady or Mahomes. Okay, for all of you. 684 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: Terrified that he's gonna throw interceptions, the Jets are Quicksand 685 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: I mean, look how good Aaron Rodgers looks this year, 686 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: and how good he was in Green Bay. 687 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 2: None of it worked in New York. It's funny. 688 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: Look how good BRT Farv was in Green Bay. Then 689 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: in Minnesota. It didn't really look good in New York. 690 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: Nothing works in New York. Nothing. I'm not saying Aaron 691 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: Glenn would be Lombardi somewhere else, but I mean you 692 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: kind of look at it and go whatever, Take New 693 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: York out of Donald, go to Carolina. Sits late November 694 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: plays that point. So Carolina, Minnesota, Seattle. Three different coaches, 695 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: three different staffs, three different rosters, twenty different receivers, seven, eight, nine, 696 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: ten different backs. Sam Darnold is a winner. Yeah, it 697 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: gets a little reckless, all right, Okay, throw some picks. 698 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: Not everybody can play this position and be you know, 699 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers all time most sack quarterback. Once of my 700 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: staff got me today. How's that possible? Green Bay had 701 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: good offensive lines. Also, it's interesting the college football playoff. 702 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: Jay McK and I were talking about this during the break. 703 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: It starts Friday. If you remember last year, same thing. 704 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame played Indiana on the Friday game 705 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: and Indiana it just was overwhelmed. It was a casem 706 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: I think watching that game and the takeaway was man, 707 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: there was no buzz for it. I think the college 708 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: football playoffs should start on Saturday because that's when the 709 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: season is. On Saturday, like I tend to think NFL 710 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: playoffs should start on Sunday because that's when the season is. 711 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: But the NFL is sort of bulletproof. I would say 712 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: Friday is a dead zone for television. Like Friday, all 713 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: work hard, you go out beers with buddies. I don't 714 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: watch a lot of TV on Fridays. I mean I 715 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 1: just don't watch a lot of TV at all on Fridays. 716 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm a Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday TV viewer. But it'll 717 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: be interesting in the college football playoff because you see 718 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: that in Miami, Texas A and M line has come 719 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: way down. Now it's a field goal game. I like 720 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: Miami at four and a half. Now it's down to three. 721 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: Home field for Texas A and m maybe the difference, 722 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: but I really really like Miami in that game. At 723 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: least I did it the first number. I like Alabama 724 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: to beat Oklahoma, not a lot of people do. I 725 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: think they'll be fine. But I got to tell you, 726 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: the two best teams I've seen this year are Ohio 727 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: State in Indiana, and the third best team is Georgia. 728 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: A little less insistent offensively, but it's going to be interesting. 729 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: Here's what is interesting to the playoffs. 730 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: What if. 731 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State or Indiana, or let's just say Indiana now 732 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: wins the Natty and Indiana is absolutely good enough to Michigan, 733 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State, Indiana, And don't tell me about your sixth 734 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: best team. I think Oregon may be the most underrated 735 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 1: team in this thing. Along with Texas Tech. They could 736 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: potentially play. But it's going to be very interesting. For 737 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: twenty years the SEC ruled this sport. If Indiana is 738 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: the one to keep your eye on. If Indiana wins 739 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 1: the Natty and it's the second or first best team, 740 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: I've seen three straight years, three different teams from the 741 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: Big Ten winning the national championship. The team that nobody's 742 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: talking about is Texas Tech, which would be a big dud. 743 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: You know, it wouldn't feel as big, you know, And 744 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: I guarant see of the Texas Tech staff and players, 745 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 1: all they're hearing about is all these other great teams. 746 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: Watch Texas Tech. Actually, you know, go and win the 747 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: whole thing. But I can't wait for it. I think 748 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: Indiana is for real. I think if they met Ohio 749 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: State again, I want to see. I want to see 750 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: Georgia in the mix with Indiana and the buck Eyes.