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Speaker 1: As a guide an hunter, I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is cutting the Distance. Welcome back everyone. This week

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be diving into part two of Calling Silent Bulls.

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Speaker 1: It's good timing because right now it's September, elk season

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Speaker 1: is in full swing. I've actually been out pretty much

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Speaker 1: every day except for a few travel days, and had

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Speaker 1: some really great encounters. Now, depending on where you're hunting,

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Speaker 1: what you might encounter, you're probably going to encounter at

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Speaker 1: some point in your life elk that are being quiet.

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Speaker 1: So last week we covered that set up on calling

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Speaker 1: for silent bulls, which is a very important step. But

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Speaker 1: now we're gonna be taking it a step further and

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Speaker 1: covering the calling aspect of drawing in a island bowl.

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Speaker 1: So we'll be talking about the calls you want to make,

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Speaker 1: how often you should call, and then when you should move.

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Speaker 1: But before we go there, I want to share the

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Speaker 1: story of Rocky the Annoying Squirrel and the Ninja Bowl Winkle.

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Speaker 1: This hunt took place a little while back. I was

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Speaker 1: actually guiding a client and it was just one of

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Speaker 1: those weeks. It was like pretty hot out early season.

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Speaker 1: I would say probably about this time in September, where

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Speaker 1: you know, every year is a little bit different. Some

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Speaker 1: years the bulls early September are just spouting off, and

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Speaker 1: it depends on where you're hunting to Like, um, I

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Speaker 1: kind of I ran into it a little bit earlier

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Speaker 1: rut action down south this year, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you go further north and it might be the opposite.

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Speaker 1: They might be reading a little bit later. I kind

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Speaker 1: of feel like the rut's gonna be a little bit

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Speaker 1: early this season. That that was kind of my prediction.

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Speaker 1: But um, in places where it's been hot and dry,

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Speaker 1: you know, they might they might be waiting for some

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Speaker 1: more of that cooler weather, and once that cooler weather

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Speaker 1: comes than things are going to kick off. So this

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Speaker 1: particular hunt, it was like pretty hot. The week before

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Speaker 1: was actually a lot cooler, and we're we'd hear some

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Speaker 1: bulls sounding off, but it was like most of the

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Speaker 1: bulls had not really started gathering up cows yet. You'd

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Speaker 1: get a little bit of action in the mornings and

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Speaker 1: then you'd hear some bugling in the evening, but the

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Speaker 1: temperature kind of made it a little bit tough, and

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Speaker 1: the elk weren't super vocal. So so this particular week,

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Speaker 1: you know, we we kind of resorted to a few

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Speaker 1: different tactics, but a lot of it was checking feeding

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Speaker 1: areas because what was happening was the cows were coming

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Speaker 1: out and feeding, and then what you would find is

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Speaker 1: like the cruising bulls. The bulls that are just going

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Speaker 1: and they're still doing their thing, they're checking for cows,

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Speaker 1: would cruise those areas that cows would frequent. So there's

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Speaker 1: a few places we could glass, and then there was

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Speaker 1: just some areas where it's like I spent the day

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Speaker 1: trying to maybe turn up a bedded bull or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and then check feeding areas for new sign and thinking, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pinpoint these elks. So midway through of the hunt,

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Speaker 1: there was a couple of different meadows that we've been

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Speaker 1: just couldn't glass. It was kind of flat, it was

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Speaker 1: looked like. You just had to walk somewhere if you

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Speaker 1: kind of exploring. So I happened upon this little meadow

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Speaker 1: and it was in this little it was kind of

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Speaker 1: little swirly that day, and I thought, let's wait till

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Speaker 1: some cows and maybe even another bull came into the

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Speaker 1: Like this is a solid setup, right, So I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I start my cow calling and mew mew, doing a

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Speaker 1: here's my scenario that I'm gonna build out. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: like there's cows in the meadow and like they're just

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Speaker 1: That's the illusion that I'm making. So I started out

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Speaker 1: I hear like behind me, and I'm like, I use

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Speaker 1: and more noise, and I look back. There's a squirrel

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Speaker 1: throw out a bugle. I'm like a light bugle, just short,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like okay, and just starts barking at me.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, this thing is like prime Time, and

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Speaker 1: I don't like animals can be keyed into noises. And

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Speaker 1: alarm bark, probably not the best for incoming out somebody.

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Speaker 1: I was like, maybe I must there must have been it,

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Speaker 1: I'm like trying to shoom away because I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want this squirrel to ruin my hunt, but

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Speaker 1: I also don't want to like make too much noise.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, I cannot get the squirrel out of

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna there's nothing

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Speaker 1: give us some more calculs. Every time I call, that

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Speaker 1: all right, what am I gonna get a little rock?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like chucking it towards the squirrel. I'm like

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Speaker 1: he jumps up. Now he's just like making a massive commotion,

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's I'm pretty sure he's intentionally trying

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Speaker 1: I'm like trying to be super quiet listen for ELK,

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Speaker 1: so I just like grab a big rock, take a

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Speaker 1: I can at the squirrel. I actually hit right next

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Speaker 1: squirrel like flies off, gets down, runs away like finally,

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Speaker 1: So I'm like I'm talking to my hunter. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that squirrel, it was just driving us both crazy. I

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Speaker 1: just nuts. So I started calling again. I'm like calling

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Speaker 1: and I'm like a few minutes later, like it seems

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Speaker 1: pretty close. The squirrels like ten trees over just going crazy,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, this freaking squirrel of like, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: much at this point unclipping the unclipping my piss on.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna you want squirrel hunt. We're going squirrel hunting this.

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Speaker 1: This squirrel is driving me nuts. So um, I look

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Speaker 1: got up through rock like everything's whatever, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: look over, I'm just gonna walk over there and just

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Speaker 1: push the squirrel off, like do a squirrel drive. And

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Speaker 1: and I like something looks weird and I squirrels just

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking and all of a sudden, I see

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Speaker 1: it's an in elk lay. I'm like, dude, Garrett, like

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Speaker 1: here's here's a bull. And now that squirrels above the

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Speaker 1: bull just barking and going crazy at the elk oh

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Speaker 1: like all right, And I'm like, okay, this thing just

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Speaker 1: snuck in, like we couldn't We could hear the squirrel,

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Speaker 1: like I called it the Ninja bowl. We can keep

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Speaker 1: of the day where it's like there's probably not gonna

425
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Speaker 1: be in the action anyways. Now, yeah, it's not gonna

426
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Speaker 1: be like you do this and it's it happens and

427
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: it's really fast paced action. But you're kind of doing

428
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Speaker 1: these calling to these silent bulls in between other things

429
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Speaker 1: that are going on during your hunt. So you're set

430
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Speaker 1: up and I might give it a few minutes here

431
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Speaker 1: and just spread out one or two calls, wait a

432
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Speaker 1: little while, five minutes whatever, one or two calls, and

433
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Speaker 1: that I can also really pique the curiosity of a bull.

434
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Speaker 1: Now if I'm in an area where it's like it

435
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Speaker 1: seems like a feeding area evening time, Um, maybe I

436
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Speaker 1: can throw out some more calls. It's like, well, that's

437
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Speaker 1: when ELK would be more active, So I can calcolm more,

438
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 1: Calcolm more, and maybe mixing some of those bugles even

439
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Speaker 1: throughout the day. I'll mix in those bugles in all

440
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Speaker 1: these setups only because sometimes you'll get a bugle in

441
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Speaker 1: a response to it and it carries a little bit further.

442
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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm sitting there and thinking kind of timing

443
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Speaker 1: things based on the scenario, the time of day, and

444
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Speaker 1: how close or far away I think ELK might be. Now,

445
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Speaker 1: if I'm thinking I'm in an area where hey, maybe

446
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Speaker 1: I'll catch a cruising ELK, I want to be calling

447
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Speaker 1: more often and maybe uh for like longer periods per

448
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Speaker 1: set because that sound might not be traveling as well,

449
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Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that I catch something

450
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Speaker 1: while it's there, while they're moving. So in the evenings

451
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Speaker 1: and mornings, I might be calling more often. Maybe in

452
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Speaker 1: the middle of the day when I'm in a good spot,

453
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Speaker 1: I might wait for a little bit longer and call

454
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Speaker 1: less in between those calls. Now, the idea when should

455
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Speaker 1: you move. I think that's a really great question, because

456
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Speaker 1: do I get in here and set up and just

457
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Speaker 1: sit all day in one spot call Like, is that

458
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Speaker 1: going to be effective? No, that's not. I mean it

459
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Speaker 1: can be, but I don't really think that's a super

460
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Speaker 1: effective way to hunt elk. Now, if you've got like

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Speaker 1: let's say you're in an area awhere you don't maybe

462
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Speaker 1: you're hunting a piece of private, or maybe a piece

463
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Speaker 1: of public that's around a lot of private, or you

464
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Speaker 1: don't have a lot area to go, then yeah, find

465
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Speaker 1: a spot and do these cal calls, and you're gonna

466
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Speaker 1: have to try to draw the elk to you. If

467
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Speaker 1: you're in a big public land unit where you can cruise,

468
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,479
Speaker 1: you know, I like to stay mobiles, stay moving, and

469
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Speaker 1: then doing these setups. Like when I talk about calling

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Speaker 1: to a silent bull, I'm not talking about essentially like

471
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Speaker 1: ice fishing, where you drill your one hole and you're

472
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Speaker 1: sitting there waiting. I'm talking about the elk themselves might

473
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Speaker 1: not be making a lot of noise, but you still

474
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Speaker 1: got to move around and hunt the elk. So what

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Speaker 1: I'll do, But you also have to give them enough

476
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Speaker 1: time to come into you. If they're going to come

477
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Speaker 1: in quiet. So like last episode was all about set

478
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Speaker 1: up and knowing where these elk might be, and then

479
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: you're calling to an elk that you're kind of expecting

480
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: to come in or be an earshot of your call.

481
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Speaker 1: How long it takes that bull depends on the time

482
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Speaker 1: of day and how confident you are that something is

483
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Speaker 1: going to be able to hear you. If you're just

484
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Speaker 1: kind of cold calling, broadcasting into an area where it's like,

485
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know if there's anything here. Um, you know,

486
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Speaker 1: you might not want to spend a lot of time

487
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Speaker 1: now if it's like I feel like there's going to

488
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: be a bull here, then I'm gonna I'm gonna sit up,

489
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna sit now. Like in the story, I

490
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: was like I went there probably like four pm and

491
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Speaker 1: was playing on sitting in that meadow until dark because

492
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Speaker 1: I knew that that was an attracting area and I

493
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Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of better options. Um, there's other

494
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Speaker 1: times where I'm still trying to find the elk and

495
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Speaker 1: I might just sit for thirty minutes, fifteen minutes and

496
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Speaker 1: then call and move on or um, you know, I

497
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Speaker 1: play it like that. So it's not something where I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit here and call the silent elk in

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Speaker 1: this one spot all day long, unless I believe that

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Speaker 1: elk are using that spot a lot, and then I'll

501
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Speaker 1: move different places based on the time of day, Like Okay,

502
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Speaker 1: once it's betting time, then I move into the timber,

503
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Speaker 1: and then as it gets more closer to feeding time,

504
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: I move more toward openings and feeding areas. So I'm

505
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Speaker 1: I'm timing these things based on where elk are and

506
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Speaker 1: trying to do other things while I'm doing this, maybe

507
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Speaker 1: doing some glad asking in combination, and maybe I'll see

508
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Speaker 1: a bull by himself. Okay, there's a bull and I

509
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: throw out a located bugle. That bull doesn't bogle back.

510
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: Then I go, all right, that bull is probably gonna

511
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: come in silent, So now I know I gotta go

512
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Speaker 1: get into position. I'm gonna start calling. And if I'm

513
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Speaker 1: calling towards that bull, that I know is they're I'm

514
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: just gonna I'm gonna sit there until that bull comes in. Um.

515
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: But if it's not like that, then I might, you know,

516
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: call and move, call and move. So you play it

517
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Speaker 1: based on the activity you're seeing, how well you think

518
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: the setup is, and then the time and day as well.

519
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: It's always a lot more fun when bulls are screaming

520
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: and bugling back and really fired up. But I think

521
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Speaker 1: that understanding how to call to elk that might be

522
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Speaker 1: coming in silent can be a really effective way to

523
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Speaker 1: fill tags no matter the time of season or no

524
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Speaker 1: matter how active those elk are, because they're still gonna

525
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: be doing their thing, and there is a lot of

526
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Speaker 1: bulls that will come in silent on you. Even when

527
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Speaker 1: other bulls are screaming, You're gonna have silent bulls coming in,

528
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Speaker 1: so it's something you'd be prepared for. Next week, I

529
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Speaker 1: actually to share the story of the best bull I've

530
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: taken to date and some of the tactics that I used.

531
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Speaker 1: I I just recently last week took my biggest elk

532
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Speaker 1: with a bow and actually bigger than the biggest one

533
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: I've taken with a rifle. Definitely my pr my personal

534
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: record on elk, and a lot of the tactics that

535
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: I use are some of these things that I'm talking

536
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: about with the silent alk calling, but also another tactic

537
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: of hunting elk mid day and striking up bugles and

538
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: calling elk in that maybe they've got cows, maybe they don't,

539
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: maybe they're betted off by themselves. But mid day hunting

540
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: bulls like a really good way to effectively hunt that.

541
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: After they're super active and before the evening when they

542
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: feed that that big chunk of time during narchery season,

543
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: when what are they doing. They're bedded up. So hunting

544
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: bedded bulls and how to call to bedded bulls is

545
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: going to be next week, so you won't want to

546
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: miss that. And if you if you haven't checked it out,

547
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: go on my Instagram. You can see the bull that

548
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be talking about. It's a it's a heck

549
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: of a bull. It's a giant seven by seven. Um,

550
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was even that big, And when

551
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: he came in, I knew it was big. But when

552
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: I walked up and I didn't know he's the seven

553
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: by seven, it was pretty cool, pretty cool experience. I

554
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: got the story there, and we'll talk about that next week.

555
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: So until next week, everyone keep calling to the silent ones.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's got to speak up for him. Catch you guys later,