WEBVTT - Dumb Drinking Blood Stuff with Alie Ward

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<v Speaker 1>It's to three am in tomorrow Land and you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight Call. Hello everybody, and welcome to Night Call, the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast for your strange days and lonely nights. I'm Molly

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<v Speaker 1>Lambert and with me today in Los Angeles is Tess

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<v Speaker 1>Lynch and Ellie Ward and joining us from New York

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<v Speaker 1>as always, Emily Yoshida. I'm back, baby, back back from

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<v Speaker 1>France from the fronts our guest today, very special guests

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<v Speaker 1>we're very excited about is Ali Ward. Eight Daytime Emmy

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<v Speaker 1>Award winning correspondent for Innovation Nation with Mo Rocca and

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<v Speaker 1>the host of the Oologies podcast, which is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the top twenty science podcast as in the world and

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. You have to listen to Ologies. Every episode

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<v Speaker 1>is an interview with an ologist of some kind. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So it covers a lot of different topics and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. And Al was also we've known it for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. We were excited to have her on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast today currently blushing um. So we were going

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<v Speaker 1>to start out just welcoming Emily back from can Bonjeur

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<v Speaker 1>A bon sir, I guess I should say for um

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<v Speaker 1>for the Night callers out there, Emily how jet lagged

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Oh, I'm I'm actually fine right now. Not

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<v Speaker 1>gond Last last year I was jet lagged in a

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<v Speaker 1>way I've never been in my life. That lasted for

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour or not an hour a week, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt like I was underwater the entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe last time it was an hour, but it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like a week, because yeah, that's actually totally possible in

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<v Speaker 1>my recollection of it. Well, Richard Lawson was also coming

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<v Speaker 1>back from can and he was doing some really good

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<v Speaker 1>tweets about jet lag that we're like, the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to get through jet lag is to renounce the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of time. That's very true. No, I spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time with with Richard and and can can is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the third time I went, And it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a weird summer camp with more ball gowns

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<v Speaker 1>and you kind of have to have those people that

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<v Speaker 1>you hold onto is your pillars of sanity. And Richard

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely one of those people for me there, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm grateful to him as always. Um, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was a very straight I did see

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<v Speaker 1>some movies I saw. I saw not quite as many

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<v Speaker 1>as I think I usually do it's It was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of an odd year, um at least in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>American coverage of films, because there's there were a fewer

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<v Speaker 1>things that I think like a lot of American audiences

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<v Speaker 1>care about, which is whatever. Black. I still saw some

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<v Speaker 1>like good movies, but ones that are hard to like

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<v Speaker 1>tell people about because it's just like I just round

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<v Speaker 1>a description of the Gas for No A movie, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's you, guys, the Gas Barny movie

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<v Speaker 1>was the best movie it can and I am so

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<v Speaker 1>excited for you to see it. The description was like

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people get together, drink sangria and go insane.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's basically it. Uh it's but it's really incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is if if if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about one movie on night Call, It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be this movie because it feels appropriate for us. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the only things that came out of

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<v Speaker 1>immediately was like on Twitter trying to hype up because

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<v Speaker 1>I was so excited about it. Um he cast this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it had to be almost thirty dancers um

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<v Speaker 1>that are sort of this ensemble and they're led by

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<v Speaker 1>Sophia Boutella of Uh, what Kingsman, she was the Mummy.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the New Mummy and the terrible New Mummy movie

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody she's Yeah, it's a lady Mummy. Yeah she

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<v Speaker 1>has face tests shot as hell. Yeah. I would see

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<v Speaker 1>bullowards and I was like, I don't want to see

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, but I like her hair. So she is

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<v Speaker 1>awesome in it. And the movie is garbage, but she's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing in it. But Climax, it's just like it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of it's I also thought after I saw it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like a mother for me because it involves

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<v Speaker 1>like dance sequences and uh, psychotic freakouts and and LSD

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and it very much isn't that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing of like a thing that seems sort of normal

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<v Speaker 1>at first quickly turns into chaos and like children aren't

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<v Speaker 1>risk and stuff like that. I think I told you

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<v Speaker 1>and tests privately, but I wanted debut this fact on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast because it's amazing. I interviewed Hero Murai, the

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<v Speaker 1>director of This Is America the video, for The New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times, and he said that one of the main

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<v Speaker 1>things that inspired the This Is American video was the

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<v Speaker 1>end of Mother Mother Hive. Allie did you see mother? Y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen mummy. I haven't seen mother, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen anything else from the people. I need to break

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<v Speaker 1>a femur or a collar bone and a ski accident

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<v Speaker 1>just up. Do you want us to misery you? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what you're saying? Yes, I'd like you to break

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<v Speaker 1>at least one of my ankles and just let me

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<v Speaker 1>chill out misery. But podcast dummy garage, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>it's consentual, this would be a great place to missery somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>It would I like, maybe I would missery and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>just to make them watch the entire Marvel cinematic universe.

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<v Speaker 1>So statistic, there's also a really plausible like misery podcaster

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<v Speaker 1>scenario where somebody's like the Cappy Bates who like finds

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Marin and change them to the bed, makes me

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<v Speaker 1>do a podcast talk to me to play Misty for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I mentioned play Missy for me on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast a lot, because that's what all podcasting. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to not think of play Misty for me

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking into a microphone being like your strange

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<v Speaker 1>days and lonely nights. Guys. One thing that happened while

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<v Speaker 1>Emily was in Can that we texted about. She texted

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<v Speaker 1>us about it from Can because it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>an emergency situation. Agency was the met Ball debut of

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk and Grimes. I can't believe you guys didn't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this when when we were off or when

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<v Speaker 1>I was or considerate friends. Yeah. I mean I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that because I feel like so much they're still dating,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Are you sure? Have you checked today? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>She changed. There was another story about changing her name

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<v Speaker 1>to a lower class c. Bet Ali has feelings about

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<v Speaker 1>this as a person who cares about science and also

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<v Speaker 1>probably hates Delon. Well, here's the thing. So her name

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<v Speaker 1>is Claire, but she changed her her first name because

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, I've never felt like a Claire ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was born. I just didn't feel like a Claire.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like anyone with the name Claire, I immediately

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<v Speaker 1>assume you were born rich, like you have a trust fund.

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<v Speaker 1>Your name of Claire, you have a trust fund? And

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver being the male equivalent of Claire. Yes, Charles Hunter, Hunter,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. Hunter. My friend got me into the reality

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<v Speaker 1>show Made in Chelsea, which is the British equivalent of

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<v Speaker 1>the pilt and it's like TV zann X. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so zannex to because everyone has British vocal fry and

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<v Speaker 1>so boring and posh. But literally the name, the main

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<v Speaker 1>girl's name is Caggi Taggi dunlop, oh my god, the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the Elsie um. And she's very charming. She's

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<v Speaker 1>just like Elsie. She's like the down to earth rich um.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like, if your name is Claire, she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get away from this. Let's let's go full

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<v Speaker 1>till the opposite way. Let's call myself Grimes. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I think she just decided to change her first name

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<v Speaker 1>to the lower case ce italicized, which is the which

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<v Speaker 1>is like the Roman yeah, the word for light, which

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<v Speaker 1>I saw. A friend of mine who's an astrophysicists tweeted like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this something cute? Because Elon Musk is like mc

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<v Speaker 1>so mc and you know, equals what if. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. But there was also

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<v Speaker 1>that there was that meme going around that was like

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<v Speaker 1>this is what every kinky Polly couple looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>third It's like totally true. They're totally into the choker,

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<v Speaker 1>the like the the collering, it's all like it's so gross.

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<v Speaker 1>I want none of it. But like, just don't let

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<v Speaker 1>him keep pouring your glasses and wine and at dinner

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<v Speaker 1>party he's just disgusting and he's like a terrible person.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the real issue. But don't, Sugar, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>really feel? I feel like I'm like, if she has

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<v Speaker 1>any friends who are smart, like I want them to

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<v Speaker 1>just like Slipper the stuff about the like union stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what makes them so bad is that he's

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<v Speaker 1>like anti union. People die in the factories and people

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<v Speaker 1>die in the self driving cars, and he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to release the numbers of the safety statistics. Part of

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<v Speaker 1>the hell world that we live in is it's like

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<v Speaker 1>anyone you ever wrote like a positive like music review

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<v Speaker 1>about because I come back to haunt you, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't listen to music about Elon Musk. That's like

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<v Speaker 1>Darcy had that tweet that was just like I am

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<v Speaker 1>so mad. I just realized I'm gonna have to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to love songs, but you don't have to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>it when that happens, like, uh, friend of the Pod

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Papaimis has said that the funniest thing about like

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<v Speaker 1>Joanna Newsom songs is remembering that they're about Andy Sandberg.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, well some of them are about Bill Callen.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh no, I I so I actually Ellen and Grimes

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<v Speaker 1>worked their way into a review of mine. It can

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a movie that's really good that is like

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<v Speaker 1>I think other people are way more like hyperbolically in

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<v Speaker 1>love with this movie than I am. But this Korean

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<v Speaker 1>movie called Bernie is based on Americami short story. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's sort of this idea in it that's like played

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<v Speaker 1>to really creepy effect of just this rich guy kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like vampireing the youthful creative like desperate energy off

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<v Speaker 1>of this kind of younger um in her case, like

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<v Speaker 1>really poor girl and just like being amused by her

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<v Speaker 1>striving and wanting to be like communicate something and be

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<v Speaker 1>different and just sort of like watching her and like

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<v Speaker 1>sucking energy. I was like, this is the most recent

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<v Speaker 1>example of us, even though I don't I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that she is like, you know, hurting in

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<v Speaker 1>any way financially, but she's not that young. She's like

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<v Speaker 1>almost thirty, I think, And it's not like quite. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he's he's older than I thought I think too

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I feel bad that what if she was

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<v Speaker 1>what if she was born just into like a lower

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<v Speaker 1>middle class family that just like she siler, she wasn't okay?

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I had a friend that went to the

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<v Speaker 1>rent Fair this weekend and this is the first time

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<v Speaker 1>he's been sober ever, and so he's like, it's real

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<v Speaker 1>different when you're sober, usually just like blind drunk. When

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, and I was like, are you having fun?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, it's very community theater and he's like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone here looks like Elon Musk and Grimes. It's all true,

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<v Speaker 1>and I gets nerdy renfair couples. I love her in

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<v Speaker 1>the context of the Rent Fair, but something about this

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<v Speaker 1>which is like techno fascist rest, that's the problem. You

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<v Speaker 1>no thanks, So you know she's gonna find his like

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<v Speaker 1>basement full of dead wives, like any moment, they're all

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<v Speaker 1>going to be robots though. Yeah, I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if if amber Heard has reached out yet and

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<v Speaker 1>if they've compared any notes. Look, you know, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>this is all part of an Ocean's eight where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I like that idea. Everybody like, yeah, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I hope the Amber heard is like

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<v Speaker 1>hoisting him for her girlfriend, and you know, do what

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do to divest guys. Speaking of goths,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a request to talk about the goths of Disneyland.

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<v Speaker 1>And what better subject for a night call than talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the goths of Disneyland. Combining all of our interests.

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<v Speaker 1>The timely peg is that Disneyland is screwing over the

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<v Speaker 1>goths of Disneyland because they don't care about them, and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't care about fans of Disneyland obviously, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just want to make all the Marvel stuff in the

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<v Speaker 1>park and force it all, force out all the real people,

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<v Speaker 1>to which my feeling is like, build a separate park,

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<v Speaker 1>build a Marvel park, don't turn Disneyland into just the

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<v Speaker 1>all Marvel and Star Wars park, because I personally don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably it's still Disneyland. They still have to pay to

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<v Speaker 1>get into it. It's not like it's not like a neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>not a neighborhood utopia. No, But you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the things I find charming about it are like the

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<v Speaker 1>fandoms and stuff like that fandom for Disneyland has always

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<v Speaker 1>been like, by far the best Disneyland fandom. Why would Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been a bad stay, but I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>did grow up. I started dyeing my hair black at

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<v Speaker 1>like twelve, and my have very curly hair, and my

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<v Speaker 1>sisters would sing Share songs to me to taught me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like no. Every time I hear like

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<v Speaker 1>if I could turn back time in like a store

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<v Speaker 1>or something, I just start getting flashbacks to um. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just going to mention Share because I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to mention Moonstrack in the context Elon Muskin Grimes, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's that power where it's like, why do men chase

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<v Speaker 1>young women because they were afraid of death? Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I think is going on with Elon Muskin Grimes.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think he is vampiring on her for her,

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<v Speaker 1>like her non non Elon Muskiness. I bet they do

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<v Speaker 1>dumb drinking blood stuff. I bet they do dumb boken

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<v Speaker 1>me and Grove like Orgies with the rich and powerful

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<v Speaker 1>boring orgies. Orgies, Orgies. Ali, why were you so golf?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? I grew up in this town that was

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<v Speaker 1>wealthier than we were, but had good schools and So

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<v Speaker 1>there were people like like Hill the guard in my

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<v Speaker 1>high school and I just transferred there in sixth grades,

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<v Speaker 1>and I's like, you've never been to a Benetton store.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have anything Benettit Your kids like no, And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think I just was like, well fucked, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna I'm not going to assimilate that way. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna go head the other directions. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, I only where old military things

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<v Speaker 1>I get from just from thrift stores. Before you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a slippery slope. You're wearing a black eyeliners lipstick.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, how long? How long was this period of

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<v Speaker 1>your life? Probably like thirteen to like two commitment. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to l A and was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it doesn't work here. It's just is the best

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<v Speaker 1>place to be a golf I didn't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't find my people yet. I I remember I drove

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<v Speaker 1>down to like go to Helter Skelter a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times when I was like in college, but I never

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<v Speaker 1>went to a bad day, but it always I found

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<v Speaker 1>it very endearing that so many goths would congregate in

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<v Speaker 1>the daylight, because that is not of course that's not

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<v Speaker 1>so many parasols. Yeah. I love that picture of the

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<v Speaker 1>Cure at the beach. I've never seen it. It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the Cure, but they're at the beach and they

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<v Speaker 1>look so uncomfortable. I think it's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>that to me is like the so called so cow goth,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'll go I think there is a thing where

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<v Speaker 1>people go in this beach goth direction where you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to wear all the clothes because who expects

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<v Speaker 1>that in a hundred degree weather, at least of all

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<v Speaker 1>you wearing all the clothes. That's what I mean. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to be GoF here because it's like what do

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<v Speaker 1>you do? Like the black tank talk, just like pastel goth.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my real the real reason I could never

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<v Speaker 1>be the go because I tried. I tried in seventh grade.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm gonna be goth, but I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like wearing black, And every time I wear black,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like this is I always feel like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to a coral performance. Yeah, there's some

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I mean, I was like a closet goth

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in a very literal sense, like I had

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<v Speaker 1>a closet that had a bunch of goth stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>it that was no, by no means my daily wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>But everyone WoT I did have a goth closet. I

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<v Speaker 1>had like knee high lace up boots that were like

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<v Speaker 1>pointy and had like a heel that I couldn't walk in.

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<v Speaker 1>I had all these like black petticoats and like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like anything that my grandma had that I could take,

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<v Speaker 1>like inherited from her that was black. I would take

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<v Speaker 1>so all this sort of like decrepit lacy ship and

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<v Speaker 1>every once in a while I would have a goth day,

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<v Speaker 1>which was always a great uh source of self expression.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I wanted to be able to commit more

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<v Speaker 1>to being a goth, but I also wanted to like

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<v Speaker 1>do other things too. But gods hate Halloween just because

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people who are like looking

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<v Speaker 1>gods today and you're like every day And it was

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<v Speaker 1>always like I remember I was in college, my first

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<v Speaker 1>year of college, and I can't walked into my dorm

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<v Speaker 1>room and my not goth roommate was wearing all of

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<v Speaker 1>my clothes and she's like from and Louena, I'm you,

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<v Speaker 1>but sexy, like it was very it's rude. She ended

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<v Speaker 1>up not being a great roommate, but shocker, I what

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<v Speaker 1>an assholet but sexy, like I know, I know. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, I wasn't virgin, and I did say

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<v Speaker 1>magic and gathering a lot, so she had a point.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the way I were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody got laid more in college than the people who

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<v Speaker 1>played magic the Gathering, at least at our calls. The

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<v Speaker 1>Larbers had like the biggest sex scene. They were all

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<v Speaker 1>every weekend too. It was like, you have no plans,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Larbers do. They're not invited. That's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>you lartin was like the most uninhibited thing you can

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<v Speaker 1>do in public in a group. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good precursor to sex. It's also the thing

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<v Speaker 1>where Polly people sometimes are just like talking really loudly

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<v Speaker 1>about all the stuff they do, and you're like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is gross to hear about. I don't want to really

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<v Speaker 1>think about you guys all fucking like sorry, it's fine

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<v Speaker 1>that you do it. But I do feel though, like

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<v Speaker 1>but with bad stay, I feel very proud of them

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<v Speaker 1>that they didn't organize that around Halloween, like Halloween is

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<v Speaker 1>for amateurs. We're doing this in the spring. And also

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<v Speaker 1>it was toward June, right, which is like June gloom happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but they stopped organizing it, right. No, what happened was

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have the money to keep the like the stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>the bonus stuff going. They still have it basically where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the day, but they did this whole like

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<v Speaker 1>fair around it where people could sell all their like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Haunted Mansion art and stuff and kitchy Disneyland goth stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So sad they're gonna have to don's Very Farm, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's very I was gonna say that's way

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<v Speaker 1>better for god. Very Farm is the goth is placed

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<v Speaker 1>on it's so it's actually awesome. And I interviewed Alvira there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went and saw Elvira there. It's amazing and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like the ultimate like so cow goth. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when I interviewed her, like she was like, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to have a really goth house that was all like

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<v Speaker 1>spider stuff everywhere and like just you know, dark and gloomy,

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, and now I have like a beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>airy like California home with like little devils everywhere and

0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, California goth and she was like, yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's so maybe they need to do Goth Scary

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<v Speaker 1>Farm or something, or Goth's Ferry Farm. Halloween Horror Knights

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing. I've never I have okay, I've never been,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought I was too scared to go, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I went and it was so fun. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even do any of the mazes. I just walked through

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<v Speaker 1>the scare zones, which is like they just pump horror

0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.359
<v Speaker 1>fog at your people come up behind you and go

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<v Speaker 1>like mull um, and it was really fun. I can

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it, even though it's like, really not my pleasure

0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:54.159
<v Speaker 1>center to be touched by people. They don't touch you,

0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that's that's always they touch you, but they get so close.

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<v Speaker 1>They get so close, but they're so indie it is

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<v Speaker 1>really community. I don't know. I went to the Haunted

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<v Speaker 1>hay Ride last year in this scary clown with a

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<v Speaker 1>chainsack but got right in my face and the number

0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.199
<v Speaker 1>when he looked like zac Alfanakis, which was adorable. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not scared of you. You look amazing, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>such fresh breath that it ruined it so minty, like

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<v Speaker 1>you need to smell like lentils and call really scared

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<v Speaker 1>of you don't like that, you know. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it was scary. Though I heard that that

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<v Speaker 1>one I almost took my five year old and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, what am I doing. He's afraid of coraline, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not on the show him that it's pretty scary. Actually, yeah,

0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the button eyes are scary. There's it also is like

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<v Speaker 1>you ever go. I was very briefly GoF in I

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<v Speaker 1>think seventh grade and I but I was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just aesthetically GoF. So I dyed my hair block in

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<v Speaker 1>my bedroom, like the bathroom that was attached to it,

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<v Speaker 1>so my parents couldn't find out. And then they saw

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<v Speaker 1>the next obviously they found out and they were like yikes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would like slick back my black hair and

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<v Speaker 1>I had like almost no eyebrows. I was just putting

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<v Speaker 1>it out front because they made at my school, they

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<v Speaker 1>made us there was like compulsory um, team sports and

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<v Speaker 1>long days and just not my vibe at all. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was just kind of advertising like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not into any of this, you know, besides outfits. What

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<v Speaker 1>was the most goth thing that you all were into

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<v Speaker 1>when in your goth phase? Like, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>this counts as goth, but Tessa that I were witches

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<v Speaker 1>and we had a cover, we had a coven, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a coven for like years. It was like years. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like three that it was one. It was

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<v Speaker 1>all year and then there were like some internal difficulties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we did some spells. Some of them work, some of

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<v Speaker 1>them didn't, and all came out in the wash. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like was there like a monkey's pow thing where it

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<v Speaker 1>came to hit you in the face. Later, I mean

0:22:57.800 --> 0:22:59.399
<v Speaker 1>I had to date. I was like, I need a

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend to make it happen. And then I got a

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend and was like not that one, not that one,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I had to break up with them. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was the monkey's paw. I mean, I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>like we did a lot of like burning of incense,

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<v Speaker 1>like ritual candles. It was like the craft had just

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<v Speaker 1>come out and list teenage girls. Jesus Christ, I need

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<v Speaker 1>some power. I'm trying to think now. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it counts, but I was really into Francisco Leo

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<v Speaker 1>block books. Um, it sort of counts. It's like more

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 1>goth fairy stuff. There was a comic that I used

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<v Speaker 1>to have that was so stupid in retrospect, but I

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<v Speaker 1>really loved it. Um called gloom Cookie that they sold

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<v Speaker 1>it hot topic that I was really into. Um, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it took place in New Orleans, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like kind of this like goth soap opera

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<v Speaker 1>and like the guys all dressed like fops and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a brief interest of mine, like the Sandman and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. I read some x P sure, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Hank's been talking about Scott a lot. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like Twitter account. Yeah. I was also like, kid, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be Scott. No, you couldn't know. It's really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to stick with the SKA. Yeah, it's a limited realm,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are your activities are? What's the gathering of

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<v Speaker 1>the juggalos for Scott Ska fans? Like what are they?

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<v Speaker 1>Orange County? Probably also not very farm again. Yeah, no,

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:36.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like still alive. There was this super weird part

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<v Speaker 1>of Disneyland for a while in California Adventure that was

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<v Speaker 1>like nineties rave themed. It was like this matter and

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<v Speaker 1>it was literally like nineties southern California rave themed because

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<v Speaker 1>Alice in Wonderland and like Lava Lamps and they had

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<v Speaker 1>a No Doubt cover band that was like, you know,

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the Gwen Stefano fake Gwen Stefani is Alice and then

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the band did. They just played Tragic Kingdom over and

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 1>over and they also played like songs from Now But

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it was like the perfect Southern California experience. In my

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.359
<v Speaker 1>early twenties, I dated a guy in a ska band

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I'm sorry and someone asked me like, oh,

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>what does he do? And I remember being like, oh,

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a percussionist and they're like, he's a drummer and

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I'm like some still embarrassed that

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I tried to make. Should we take a night call? Yeah,

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>we could take a night call. We haven't one about

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Catalina Island? Is that right? We do HI night call?

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>It's twelve of six in Chicago, prime nighttime hours, and

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I was just wondering what you're going to spots were

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>on Catalina Island, especially since all of you have lived

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles at one point or another. Catalina is

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>such a weird convergence of Hollywood history. Was the fact

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that there's so many buffalo roaming around from when they

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>filmed westerns on the island, as well as haunted ghosts.

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Because also it was a place where all they would

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 1>stars went to vacation so I was just wondering what

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you're going to just stops for on Catalina and all

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 1>of the weird legends arounding it. Thanks and happy night

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 1>college goes. We love you, Matt. Yeah, thank you so

0:26:55.000 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 1>much for that call. Yeah. I just google ghost stories

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>for hunted Catalina. They guess, I guess they have a

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of ghost tours on Catalina Island. I I didn't

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>really know about that, but I did go to Catalina

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>once and found it to be kind of ghost town ish. Um.

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's a high season for Catalina Island,

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>but whenever I went, it definitely was not that. Have

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>we all been to Catalina? Yeah, you didn't go. Yeah,

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>we had to go on a retreat for school. Um,

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Molly did not go. And I remember Molly at the

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 1>last minute didn't go, and I saw her like out

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 1>of the bus window and I was like, Molly, no,

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>well you gotta get on the bus and she didn't.

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>And then I like cried on the way to Catalina.

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>And then it was like I think that actually that

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>may have been the retreat with the with the mosquitoes. No,

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what that was the next year, at the

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Colorado River where they were like, hey, there's like a

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>bunch of mosquitoes and they bit they were biting people

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>on the face and they were like should we go home?

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>And half the people were like please, let's go home,

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>and half the people were like, no, it's important that

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>we stay. And I was like, funk these people. But

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 1>in a way, yeah, I went to Catalina for that,

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Ali have you I went. I went in uh in

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>college with my boyfriend at the Times family, and uh,

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I found porn in the woods there. No, I did

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 1>find some porn in the woods. Were like, let's go

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.199
<v Speaker 1>for a hun and then it was just like a

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 1>stash of like warped, water logged porn in the forest.

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Catalina is weird because it's it's a legitimate desert island,

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>like and it's it is bizarre that you see these

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>wild animals who are like they were just kind of

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 1>dumped there, you know, like, I guess we'll make a

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 1>go of it on this weird little island. I've been

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>on both sides of Catalina. There's like the Avalon is

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the fancy side, the fancy side of the tourist town.

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>And then I went camping on the camping side, which

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>is really cool. There's like a harbor called the Shark

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Harbor or something. Uh. There's like a beach you can

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>camp on. Uh, and you see buffalo and they're like

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>beach foxes and stuff, and it's very It's pretty cool.

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I got some hot gossip on the buffalo though. Oh please,

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>they're on the pill. What there's yeah, check me, but yeah,

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 1>biologists so that they will die out, or so that

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 1>they won't overpopulate, so that they won't because there are

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>no natural predators on I'm pretty sure that they're an'll

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>pop on the pill like a bunch of feminist ladies.

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. Definitely, apple On feels super haunted because there

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:23.959
<v Speaker 1>is like a haunted ballroom, there's a lot of deco stuff,

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that it is kind of like ghost

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>towny most of the year. I think summer is the

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>big season, but even then it's like there's some people

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>that live on the island, but mostly I think it's

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>just people who work on the island. And on the

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>camping side, it's even more. There's like a town with

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>like two things in it, so I'm looking for stuff

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>about ghosts there and some people. I mean, I guess

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>obviously think that Natalie Wood haunts the beach, right, yeah,

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess I never thought about like where that actually

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>boat trip was. I mean it really Catalina. I think

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>it was off Catalina. They were they were voting around Catalina.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Has Christopher Walkin been back to Cataline at all? Wasn't

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>he involved? Wasn't he on the boat? He knows something?

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>He maybe doesn't know anything. They also say that scuba

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>divers I guess there was like a mining tunnel around

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>there at some point the collapse, and scuba divers who

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>have been said to have heard the screams of the

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>miners who died in the collapse tunnel. They tend to

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>find these really crazy sea serpents called or fish out

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>there because they're normally like in the deep sea, and

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>then when they start to die, they just float up

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and they're like fuck fuck, and then they die on Catalina.

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's it is a dying ground, it's a dying destination.

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>More fish are like the coolest, scariest looking thing, Like

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>if you saw one of those, oh god, oh yeah

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it looks like an alien. Yeah, how big are they

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>They're just like they look like crazy. They're not in

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>their fish, they're not serpents, but people. They looked like

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 1>a giant sea serpent. Yeah, they and they they have

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>these crazy red spikes on like a mohawk. It's very

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>really them there to they float up. Whoa, that's fascinating.

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>But where do you find that out? You know, there's

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a big preserved or fish at the museum and I

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>used to volunteer. Was just going to say, there's a

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>terrifying preserved one at the Natural East Museum. Yeah, but

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I do feel like Catalina's like has the ghosts of

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like postwar unreported sexual assault fuel tins,

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like a bunch of Hollywood creepiness. Right,

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 1>when you only share the space of a few buffalo

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>then maybe your spirit comes through a little more strongly

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>or something. I mean. It's also like all of those

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>areas obviously have a very strong like hey, this was

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>native land and now right it's not, and then we

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>made it look like it just we just found it

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>this way. Right now, there's a Buco to Beppo there

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and you're like Alato shop and you're like whoops, yeah, yeah,

0:31:56.680 --> 0:32:00.040
<v Speaker 1>we we just love talking about Bucca to Beppo. We

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>could have Beppo. Please sponsor us um giant meat ball. Yeah, hey, guys,

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to take another nightcall, But this one's a

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>night email. Yeah. Sure, it says nightcall about fears. Hello, nightcall, ladies.

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend has a fear of dolls, but I've been

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>collecting them since I was a little girl. I only

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>have three small ones in our current apartment. The rest

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>have been stored at my mom's house until I have

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>more room for them. My mom is in the process

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>of moving, though, and I want to move my dolls

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and to assume to be empty room with the apartment.

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend said no that I have nowhere else from

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>my creepy friends to go. What should I do with

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 1>my ghoulish antiques? Oh my god, I just heard a

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>story from somebody who shall not be named um about

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>of tinder date. I think that M wound up at

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the person's home and uh, and you know, after after

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>welcoming the person inside, they the first room they stepped

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>into was the doll room. Uh. And it was it

0:32:58.240 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>was the first day and they were kind of out

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>some we're sort of remote, I think, like you know,

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>red Hook or whatever. So it was like, should I

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>take an expensive uver or just try to stick this out?

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think they. I think they stick it

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>out left and become a do This email comes from

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Hannah with the porcelain dolls is how she wishes to

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>be known. But wait, you're leaving out one detail. Any

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>of them are child sized. That was important to me

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.479
<v Speaker 1>and very quote endearing. I can't imagine why he wouldn't

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>want to live with them. Oh boy, I mean the

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>tone of this email is confusing to me because I

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>can't tell if she is like it sounds almost like

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>she's at a point of acceptance where she knows she

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>does have to get rid of her grulish antiques. Uh,

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't have. I mean there's a lot of there's

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of self awareness in this, so I'm wondering

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>which way she wants to be steered. I mean, I'm

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>not a person who's immediately put off by the idea

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of dolls, but I imagine that there

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>are many people who are. So I guess you know,

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>your vibe attracts your tribe, etcetera. Um, she's gonna attract

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:09.359
<v Speaker 1>her doll. Try Is there anything that any of your

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:14.240
<v Speaker 1>significant others have owned that you're like, no, put back away, please.

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 1>And then there's also bubble heads, which I have referred

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to as dolls, even though they are technically I've been

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>told they're technically not dolls, they're bubble heads, and they

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 1>say because my husband was bringing them home for our kids,

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 1>being like, see, look, I'm just giving them to them

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to hang on too, but they're still mine. Don't worry

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>about it. And then on the back of the bubble

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>heads is like, not a toy, not not for children,

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>not a toy kids with bubble heads. No, No, they don't, No,

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>they don't. I don't know. I mean it's I feel

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 1>like one of the hardest things about combining living with

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody is being like, you can't just put your stuff

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 1>wherever you want and do things like have weird collections

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>necessarily because if space is at a premium and you're like,

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 1>this whole room is for the dolls, you can't have

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>a whole room for anything. Yeah, I think, I mean

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.280
<v Speaker 1>depends on where you live, I guess. I mean, even

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>if you lived in a in a huge mansion. But

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, if you did live in a huge mansion

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and you lived alone, or you like owned the house

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and had roommates and you were like, this room is

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>where the dolls live. That would be fun, would it?

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Would you live in a house that had a room

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 1>for only dolls. But if I were a person who

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>was into having dolls and had, you would expect your

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>roommates to be okay with it. I feel like you

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have roommates at that point if you live in

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:36.879
<v Speaker 1>a me look alone in a mansion with my dolls. Okay, Well,

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. If the dolls are haunted, they are roommates.

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>That's true, exactly true. You have a commune. Yeah, good

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 1>to pay rent. I have an idea, which is that, well,

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>depending on your living situation. This is exactly why addicts

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>were invented. And adding is not a habitable room, right, Like,

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you can't live in an addict. I really thought you

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>meant an addict, because an addiction like I mean, but

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>this is the thing about addicts. And I know this

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>from my mom's story and her her childhood dolls in

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.879
<v Speaker 1>my grandma's attic, is it depending on where you live,

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>they can really get fucked up in the attic, Like

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the plastic camel, the paint can get really degraded. It

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>can be not so great for the preservation of your

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>doll friends. So I don't know if I feel like

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>basements are maybe a safer bet. The thing is like,

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>if you have a room for dolls, is that room

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>for you to bring guests through and be like, welcome

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.399
<v Speaker 1>to my doll room, or is it for you at

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>home alone to be like, Oh, I've had a stressful day,

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to spend some time in the doll room. Well,

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. Is I believe in the idea

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 1>of like a personal room of like just things that

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>make you feel you know, whatever that means, because like, Ali,

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 1>do you have any like weird science stuff in your home.

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I have only weird science stuff at my home, but

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>everything it's all been I have like microscopes and dead

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>bugs and stuff. So I mean I have a dead

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>bug collection that this sailed right over my head when

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>we were like, dude and you're significant others collector anything grows.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I have dead cicadas like on my walnuts,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have a leaf tool in the bathroom. Well

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<v Speaker 1>this guys, yes, But I do feel like Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a room for dolls. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like like no calorie hoarding. It's like Splenda.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like hoarding but made with Splenda, where you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's kind of isn't that all collecting? Yes, kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like you have to pick your battles and

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<v Speaker 1>just you have to make sure that it doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>too far to where you're sixty and you're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>now have the doll home. It's a trailer in your backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you guys ever seen the House on the Rock?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a weird museum in somewhere Wisconsin. Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just all doll rooms. It's like a room full of

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, it's an annual game book. It's there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a room of like carousel animals and a room of

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<v Speaker 1>like like player pianos test is making on subscu drive

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<v Speaker 1>somehow came full circle to the goth conversation because um

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<v Speaker 1>an early pastime me having just come to l A

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<v Speaker 1>and not knowing what to do and still being kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a pseudo goth. With my boyfriend at the time

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<v Speaker 1>that I moved out with, we would drive around Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles at night in his like following apart Cadillac and

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<v Speaker 1>listen a lot of times either to the Twin Peaks

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<v Speaker 1>soundtrack or to the soundtrack from House on the Rock,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just spooky organ music. Basically the plays in

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<v Speaker 1>the house. It's just like the player piano equivalent of

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<v Speaker 1>an organ basically um. And that was that was our vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess, I guess I am a goth at heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I have another I have two more ideas for to

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<v Speaker 1>solve this problem really quick that I'm doing over. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I need, we need solutions because we're just we're just

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<v Speaker 1>hot takes on it. Well, I think one way to

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that you don't need to preserve something in a

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<v Speaker 1>physical way to like carry with you. Is there no

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<v Speaker 1>way that you could make like a movie right about

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<v Speaker 1>the dolls, almost like you're just self producing a documentary

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have that story and you can selve

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<v Speaker 1>the dolls, or you can dig a hole in your

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<v Speaker 1>floor and put the dolls in a coffin down there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, dull graveyard, doll graveyard. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say I'm more scared of burying dolls and having

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<v Speaker 1>their angry spirits come back up than letting them live

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<v Speaker 1>in peace on a shelf somewhere. Like I'd rather if

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<v Speaker 1>the shelf was in the basement, but they were still

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<v Speaker 1>out and in the air. I would feel what if

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<v Speaker 1>you put them in storage, but first you take pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to take pictures and the glamour shots on

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<v Speaker 1>the wall in the doll room, and then the doll

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<v Speaker 1>room can still be a functional room. Yes, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>doll gallery, now do I love? You can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>treat it like Day of the Dead, but for dolls,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit like putting dollar there oles when you

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<v Speaker 1>take the photograph. Yeah, but you have to do it

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<v Speaker 1>with an old timey wind up camera that takes forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes. Yea one of those cameras that shoots out

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<v Speaker 1>of pop of smoke when you take or speaking of

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 1>the puff of smoke and the fog and Not Scary Farm,

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<v Speaker 1>we could tie this all together. You could pitch this

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<v Speaker 1>as a pop up to Not Scary Farm with your dolls,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'd be out of the house for like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you could even say like half the year store

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<v Speaker 1>them there. I'm gonna say, with one more idea, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to find another boyfriend who is into dolls. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is weirdly relevant. But I also interviewed Floria Sigismondi,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the director who sort of invented like haunted doll

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<v Speaker 1>music videos. She Marilyn Manson video for The Beautiful People

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<v Speaker 1>that has some haunted dolls in it. I think she

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<v Speaker 1>did White Orchid for White Strips, and Fiona apples on

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of really good. Yeah, she's great, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>like an adult go like a business off, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's so cool and like, uh, she made like

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<v Speaker 1>a setting for the interview that had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>props from her home and a lot of them were

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<v Speaker 1>haunted dolls that she has and like you know, dolls

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<v Speaker 1>with the face half off and stuff. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>asked her at one point, like, are other people who

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<v Speaker 1>come over or stay over like creeped up by the

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<v Speaker 1>haunted dolls? And she was like I don't find them

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<v Speaker 1>creepy at all, but yeah, like other people too, like

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<v Speaker 1>kids who sleep over sometimes find them a little scary.

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 1>You just yeah, and Molly, you just flipped it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when it was a pastel doily, like a country

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<v Speaker 1>print curtain room, I got very scared. But when it

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<v Speaker 1>turned into like rubs on me, like the Dolden goth

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<v Speaker 1>type of a sitch. I'm now, I'm down with you

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<v Speaker 1>just now. And now it seems like, oh yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>put up some deteriorating Victorian furniture in there too, Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's cool. Oh, speaking of dolls, by the way, Molly

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<v Speaker 1>found something very interesting, yeah, related to last week's pod,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the spooky doll that some they sent us

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 1>that they saw doing a real estate house call that

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<v Speaker 1>they take photographs of houses, and they sent us this

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying doll that they saw in a bedroom and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a goat stall g TZ and so we looked

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<v Speaker 1>up goatstalls and it turns out they were the original

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<v Speaker 1>mold for American girl dolls. Also, so the first batch

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<v Speaker 1>of like Kirston's and Samantha's or whatever, we're all goats dolls.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as soon as I read that, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, it looks just like just like Kirsten with

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<v Speaker 1>scary red eyes. Guys, what a great night call. This

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<v Speaker 1>was so much fun. Thank you for coming by, Ali. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to say thank you so much Alie for

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<v Speaker 1>coming by. And if you haven't, definitely check out Ali's

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<v Speaker 1>podcast ologies Ologies link to it got to do a dologies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's such a good idea, it doesn't exist. Well, well

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking at the Bunny Museum last time, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of adjacent. Oh my god, I need to find

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