WEBVTT - More Space Planes

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>Listener Ivan had asked me in the last episode to

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<v Speaker 1>do a show about space planes. As it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a bit more to talk about to fill

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<v Speaker 1>up just a single episode. So here is the part

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<v Speaker 1>two to this. UH. In that last episode, I covered

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<v Speaker 1>what a space plane is in general and gave a

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<v Speaker 1>history of some of the important developments and aviation that

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<v Speaker 1>led to the deployment of the Space Shuttle, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the first practical implementation of space plane technology. UH. There

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<v Speaker 1>were space planes before the Space Shuttle, to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>but all of those were meant as test vehicles, experimental

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<v Speaker 1>prototype vehicles that were meant to expand our understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>engineering and strategies in order to create a working space

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<v Speaker 1>plane that would have applications beyond just research and development

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<v Speaker 1>and aviation, as in, uh, deploying satellites, for example, or

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<v Speaker 1>taking crew to and from outer space. And so now

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to pick up in the early nineteen eighties

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<v Speaker 1>after the space Shuttle program had UH launched, and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the other space planes that have either

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<v Speaker 1>been developed or proposed. And there's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of jumping around in time on this, because, as I've

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned in previous episodes, the way space exploration and space

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<v Speaker 1>programs have evolved over time is messy. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>simple in you know, in year X it started, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that went on for ten years, and then this

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<v Speaker 1>other project started. You have a lot of overlapping timelines.

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<v Speaker 1>And so sometimes that means that if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>just look at launches, like when a test vehicle launched

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, it would look like a more

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<v Speaker 1>linear approach, But in fact a lot of these things

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<v Speaker 1>were in development at around the same time. So with

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<v Speaker 1>that said, in nineteen eighty two, the then Soviet Union

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<v Speaker 1>began test flights of a new space plane design, an

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<v Speaker 1>unmanned space plane called the Bore four, the b O

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<v Speaker 1>R four. That b O R stands for something in

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<v Speaker 1>Russian that is so complicated. I'm not going to try

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<v Speaker 1>and say it because I will dislocate my jaw. I

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<v Speaker 1>am that bad at all languages, including English. Anyway. This

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<v Speaker 1>was the culmination of nearly a decade of work. When

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviet space program really began serious research and development

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<v Speaker 1>on space plane design in the nineteen seventies. The ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>goal was to create a space plane called the Spiral

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<v Speaker 1>fifty fifty, and that was a project that actually dated

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<v Speaker 1>back even further in the Soviet space program. It first

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<v Speaker 1>got started in the nineteen sixties. These two concepts are

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<v Speaker 1>closely tied together, uh the Boar four and the Spiral

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<v Speaker 1>fifty fifty. So let's start with Spiral fifty because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what would ultimately give way to the Boar four. And

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<v Speaker 1>while the spiral was a concept, the Boar four was

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<v Speaker 1>actually constructed, So the spiral fifty concept was incredibly ambitious.

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<v Speaker 1>The goal was to create an aircraft that could take

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<v Speaker 1>off like a conventional jet, So in other words, it

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<v Speaker 1>would launch from a horizontal position off some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>takeoff surface like a runway. Then it would travel up

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<v Speaker 1>into air and continue to ascend until it reached outer space.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just above the carm online at a hundred kilometers

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<v Speaker 1>that's the dividing line between the Earth's atmosphere and what

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<v Speaker 1>we considered to be space, but even beyond that, all

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<v Speaker 1>the way out into orbit. This vehicle was intended to

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<v Speaker 1>bring supplies and crew two from space station's orbiting Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it would return to Earth at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of its mission and land again like a conventional aircraft.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you can imagine, this would mean creating a

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<v Speaker 1>truly innovative system because the stuff that lets you fly

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<v Speaker 1>around in Earth's atmosphere doesn't work so great in outer space.

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<v Speaker 1>The concept included a pair of expendable rocket stages which

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<v Speaker 1>would be necessary to push the vehicle out into space

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the atmosphere. But within the atmosphere there would be

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<v Speaker 1>an air breathing hypersonic booster that would provide the propulsion

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<v Speaker 1>to get the aircraft to those very high altitudes before

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<v Speaker 1>having to depend upon other rocket engines. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>good moment to talk about why you would want or

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<v Speaker 1>need an air breathing rocket in the first place, because

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<v Speaker 1>we have a long history of using rockets that have

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<v Speaker 1>oxidizers attached to them. Why would you go with a

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<v Speaker 1>different design. Well, first of all, let's talk about oxidizers

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<v Speaker 1>in the first pace. For combustion to happen, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have three things. These are the the three things

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<v Speaker 1>that make up the triangle for fire. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>have heat, you have to have fuel something to burn,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to have an oxidizer. Not surprisingly due

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<v Speaker 1>to the names oxygen is an oxidizer a very common

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<v Speaker 1>one here on Earth. Stuff can burn on Earth because

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<v Speaker 1>we have oxygen that facilitates that process. But in space

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<v Speaker 1>there's a distinct shortage of oxygen, so without an oxidizer,

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<v Speaker 1>flames would die out and combustion would stop. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing as if you were to light a candle

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<v Speaker 1>and then cover that candle with a clear glass bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>You would see that the candle's flame would start to

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<v Speaker 1>flicker as it was using up all the oxygen, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it would ultimately sputter out. The same thing would

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<v Speaker 1>happen with rocket engines unless we carried an oxidizer in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to the fuel we plan on burning. But we

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<v Speaker 1>also know that getting into space requires a very careful

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<v Speaker 1>management of weight versus thrust. You want to minimize the

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<v Speaker 1>weight as much as you can to make efficient use

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<v Speaker 1>of fuel. The heavier the weight of the payload, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is you're sending out into space, the more fuel

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to need, and the more oxidizer you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to need in order to generate the thrust necessary to

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<v Speaker 1>put that mass into orbit, and it turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>the oxidizer component in rocket engines weighs a lot. This

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<v Speaker 1>is easily shown through an example. So we're gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Space Shuttle to explain what we're talking about here.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have an empty Space Shuttle, it's the spacecraft,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have any payload in it. It would weigh

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<v Speaker 1>in at a hundred sixty five thousand pounds or about

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five thousand kilograms. The two solid fuel booster rockets

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<v Speaker 1>that are would be on either side of the Space

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<v Speaker 1>Shuttle when it was on the launch pad would each

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<v Speaker 1>way one eighty five thousand pounds or eighty four thousand kilograms.

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<v Speaker 1>The giant external fuel tank if it were completely empty

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<v Speaker 1>of fuel, just the fuel tank by itself, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>part that's in the center between those two big booster

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<v Speaker 1>rockets that weighed seventy eight thousand, one hundred pounds or

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty five thousand kilograms. So collectively, all of those

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<v Speaker 1>components empty space shuttle, empty fuel tank, two solid fuel

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<v Speaker 1>rocket boosters weighed six hundred thousand pounds. That's two d

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight thousand kilograms that's without fuel and without oxidizer.

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<v Speaker 1>The oxidizer, which for the Space Shuttle was a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>forty three thousand gallons or five hundred forty one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>liters of liquid oxygen, weighed in at a staggering one

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<v Speaker 1>point three five nine million pounds or six hundred sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand kilograms, So, in other words, the oxidizer weighed more

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<v Speaker 1>than twice as much as the Space Shuttle, the rocket boosters,

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<v Speaker 1>and the external tank combined. So the most most of

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<v Speaker 1>your weight is coming not from the materials, but from

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<v Speaker 1>the fuel and the oxidizer that makes up the vast

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the weight that you're trying to send up there.

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<v Speaker 1>A hypersonic air breathing rocket would use the oxygen in

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<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere as the oxidizer, which means again it would

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<v Speaker 1>only work as long as there were enough oxygen in

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<v Speaker 1>the environment to feed the rocket. However, it would remove

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<v Speaker 1>the necessity to carry so much fuel and oxidizer on board,

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<v Speaker 1>drastically reducing the weight and by extension, the cost of

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<v Speaker 1>the launch vehicle. Because if you don't have to put

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<v Speaker 1>in as much fuel an oxidizer, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>spend as much money per launch. So it was a

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<v Speaker 1>way of making the flight more efficient, less costly, less difficult,

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<v Speaker 1>less challenging in the long run, if you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>just figuring out how much thrust you need to uh

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<v Speaker 1>to propel that much weight into the into space. An

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<v Speaker 1>air breathing rocket also known as a rocket based combined

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<v Speaker 1>cycle engine, works on a principle not that different from

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<v Speaker 1>a conventional jet engine, which means now I get to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how jet engines work. This is how I

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<v Speaker 1>sneak eighty different tech topics into a single episode. An

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<v Speaker 1>I a stinker. Okay, So a jet engine is a

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<v Speaker 1>type of gas turbine engine. Gas turbine engines have a

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<v Speaker 1>rotating component called the turbine, which you should be familiar with.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the same sort of component used in various

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<v Speaker 1>power facilities, like a steam turbine or a wind turbine,

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<v Speaker 1>and like those turbines, the gas turbine engine turbines are

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<v Speaker 1>spun by a fluid. Right, for steam turbines, you have

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<v Speaker 1>steam passing through this this fan blade turbine system which

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<v Speaker 1>causes the rotation, but in this case the fluid is

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<v Speaker 1>pressurized gas that's created by burning fuel, which then causes

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<v Speaker 1>air to expand rapidly and then forcing that expanding air

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<v Speaker 1>through the turbine. The turbines will spend at incredible speeds,

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<v Speaker 1>which generates a lot of heat in the process. That

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<v Speaker 1>actually is a limiting factor. You cannot have a regular

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<v Speaker 1>jet engine operate beyond a certain point before you get

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<v Speaker 1>into a dangerous situation because it's generating so much heat

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<v Speaker 1>that components will either start to melt or they'll start

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<v Speaker 1>to break down just from the incredible stress, the mechanical

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<v Speaker 1>stress that it's under. Now, there are three main parts

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<v Speaker 1>of your conventional jet engine. You have a compressor, which,

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<v Speaker 1>as the name suggests, compresses air to increase the pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>This usually comes in the form of sort of this UH,

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<v Speaker 1>this bladed design and UH. It is typically powered by

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<v Speaker 1>the spinning of the turbine itself. There's a chamber called

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<v Speaker 1>the combustion area, which, as the name would suggest, is

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<v Speaker 1>where fuel gets added to the incoming compressed air and

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<v Speaker 1>then is burned. It's ignited, which causes that compressed air

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<v Speaker 1>to expand and become a high velocity gas. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you have the turbine which extracts that energy coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of that gas, allowing the gas to flow through the

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<v Speaker 1>turbine spinning it and UH that's where you generate your

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<v Speaker 1>your energy or your generate your power, I should say.

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<v Speaker 1>Jet engine turbines use that energy to help drive the

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<v Speaker 1>compressor and intake fans. And in a jet engine, the

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<v Speaker 1>hot air from the combustion area will combine with cold

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<v Speaker 1>air that actually flows around the core of the engine.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have an engine design where air can flow

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<v Speaker 1>around the core as well as going into the core.

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<v Speaker 1>The air that goes into the core is the air

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<v Speaker 1>that gets compressed and then is UH in that combustion chamber.

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<v Speaker 1>The air going around it stays at a lower temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>The two will combine at the nozzle and escape through

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the engine. Now, as we know, a

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<v Speaker 1>reaction has an equal but opposite reaction, so that gas

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<v Speaker 1>shooting out the back of the engine creates a forward

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<v Speaker 1>thrust on that engine pushes the engine in the opposite direction.

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<v Speaker 1>The amazing amount of velocity means that it's enough to

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<v Speaker 1>push an entire massive vehicle like a jet plane, through

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<v Speaker 1>the air. An air breathing rocket engine would work very

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<v Speaker 1>much in the same way as your standard jet engine,

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<v Speaker 1>but would need some simplification in order to avoid overheating.

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<v Speaker 1>Simplification is being kind. I'm talking about removing some parts.

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<v Speaker 1>So scram jets a k A supersonic combustion. Ram jets

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<v Speaker 1>draw in air through an inlet, essentially an especially designed opening,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than using an intake fan, and they don't need

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<v Speaker 1>a rotating compressor to compress the air because the speed

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<v Speaker 1>at which these jets are traveling is so great that

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<v Speaker 1>the air gets compressed just by coming in through the inlet.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you have this incoming air that's being compressed

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<v Speaker 1>as it comes into this ramjet engine, and then fuel

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<v Speaker 1>will get added to the combustion area and this supersonic

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<v Speaker 1>airflow and fuel mixture gets ignited. That fuel tends to

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<v Speaker 1>be stuffed, like liquid hydrogen for example, And the reduction

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<v Speaker 1>of moving parts would allow this engine to operate and

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<v Speaker 1>much higher speeds than conventional jet engines, which again would

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<v Speaker 1>encounter those structural problems if they were to go way

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<v Speaker 1>too fast. So theoretically a scram jet you would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to hit like speeds of like mock fifteen I

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<v Speaker 1>think the fastest. As I recall, I don't have it

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<v Speaker 1>in my notes, but somewhere in the mock nine point

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<v Speaker 1>six or nine point seven range. That's the fastest we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen one go, but in theory they could go

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<v Speaker 1>much faster. Because of the nature of these engines, they

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<v Speaker 1>require a vehicle to already be going pretty fast before

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<v Speaker 1>they kick in, So you need to combine those air

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<v Speaker 1>breathing rockets with some other method that for the initial takeoff.

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<v Speaker 1>They would not be sufficient to drive a vehicle so

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<v Speaker 1>that they could take off from a horizontal surface, So

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<v Speaker 1>you might need an expendable rocket, for example, like the

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<v Speaker 1>kind that was proposed for the Spiral fifty. I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>more about the Spiral in a moment, and I'll explain

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to that project, But first before I do that,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a quick break to thank our sponsor. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Spiral. The project struggled throughout its relatively

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<v Speaker 1>short life due to lack of funding, but elements of

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<v Speaker 1>the project would continue even after the full Spiral fifty

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<v Speaker 1>fifty got the acts, which it officially did sometime around

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<v Speaker 1>although it had been canceled once before in nineteen sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those projects was the MiG one oh five,

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<v Speaker 1>also known as the Experimental Passenger Orbital Aircraft. This big

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<v Speaker 1>one oh five was ah jet that was designed to

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<v Speaker 1>be a space plane. It never actually traveled all the

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<v Speaker 1>way up into space. It was built and it was

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<v Speaker 1>flown several times, but never all the way up to

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<v Speaker 1>an altitude that would qualify space. It did have in

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<v Speaker 1>its design a pilot capsule that was completely insulated from

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the aircraft and it was fully ejectable,

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<v Speaker 1>So that was in order to us to to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the pilot safe. The fear was that without this capsule

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<v Speaker 1>and without that creatability, if something were to happen when

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle was traveling at fantastic speeds, the pilots, the

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<v Speaker 1>pilot wouldn't have any options. The pilot would be a goner.

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<v Speaker 1>The MAG one oh five could take off from a runway,

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<v Speaker 1>or it could be dropped from a tuple of tow bomber.

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<v Speaker 1>The project was initially canceled on June sixty nine, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviets reinitiated the program in nineteen seventy four when

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<v Speaker 1>they heard about the US space Shuttle program. The MiG

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<v Speaker 1>one oh five was actually built and flew on eight

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<v Speaker 1>test flights at least eight anyway from nineteen seventy to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy eight. But again it never made it all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up into space. The tests were to make

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<v Speaker 1>certain the design principles were sound, but the project was

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<v Speaker 1>ended in nineteen seventy eight after the pilot of the

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<v Speaker 1>eighth test flight was forced to make a pretty hard landing,

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<v Speaker 1>and ultimately the Soviet Union decided that the cost of

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<v Speaker 1>that program didn't make much sense and they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>divert the funds to other projects. The Boer series b

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<v Speaker 1>O R was another part of the design of this

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<v Speaker 1>space plane, and it started off as part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Spiral fifty fifty project. These were subscale test vehicles for

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<v Speaker 1>this proposed spiral, so Bore one was a much smaller

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<v Speaker 1>model Bore two boor three. They grew in size Bore four,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that typically we we say qualifies as a

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<v Speaker 1>space plane, was one half the scale of the proposed

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<v Speaker 1>Spiral fifty fifty, but it was also an unmanned vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>and it was primarily meant to test the design the

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<v Speaker 1>physical design of the spiral, making sure that the quality

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<v Speaker 1>the the calculations they had made for lift and gliding

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<v Speaker 1>and maneuverability would all make sense. And one Spiral fifty

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<v Speaker 1>fifty got the axe Bore four was able to continue,

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<v Speaker 1>but had kind of transitioned from being a test vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>for the spiral to being a test vehicle to try

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<v Speaker 1>different heat shield materials that would be used for a

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<v Speaker 1>different Soviet project that I'll talk about in just a second.

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<v Speaker 1>UH So, in a way, you could think of the

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<v Speaker 1>Boar four as being similar to a previous uh project

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<v Speaker 1>over the United States, one called Asset, which I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in the last episode, that was intended to test

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<v Speaker 1>out heat shield materials for the Dinah Sore Experimental Vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>which ended up getting the AXE. In the US, the

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<v Speaker 1>so Union built at least a few Bore four vehicles,

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<v Speaker 1>and as far as we know, there were at least

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<v Speaker 1>four test flights that took place between two and nine four,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Boar four was sent up to space on

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<v Speaker 1>a launch vehicle. They used different launch vehicles for each

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<v Speaker 1>of the tests, and then essentially it was allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>drop back to Earth and it would parachute down to

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<v Speaker 1>land in the ocean and the Soviet Navy would recover

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicles. Uh. A reason why I use a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of supposedly's and as far as we knows, it's because

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<v Speaker 1>the SOI Union was notoriously secretive. They did not want

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world to necessarily know what they

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<v Speaker 1>were and were not capable of doing so. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this information is stuff that came to light after

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviet Union collapsed, but there's still tons of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't know all the answers to Anyway. While

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<v Speaker 1>the Boar four was originally part of Spiral, the lessons

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<v Speaker 1>learned from that project but instead had informed the design

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<v Speaker 1>of a different Soviet space plane called the Buron Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It was also the catalyst for a design of a

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<v Speaker 1>US space plane, the Boar four that is, but more

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<v Speaker 1>on that in a bit. So. Buron is a Russian

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<v Speaker 1>word for blizzard or snowstorm, and one that I am

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<v Speaker 1>sure I am mispronouncing, so my apologies. The Buron was

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<v Speaker 1>essentially the Soviet Union's version of the Space Shuttle. It

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<v Speaker 1>was originally intended to keep the Soviet Union in a

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<v Speaker 1>competitive place with regard to the United States and space

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<v Speaker 1>exploration and space exploitation. To be frank ironically, the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of the program would actually help contribute to the collapse

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<v Speaker 1>of the Soviet Union itself. So while it was meant

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure the Soviet Union remained in a strong

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<v Speaker 1>position worldwide. You could argue that it was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the many factors that would lead to the Soviet Union

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<v Speaker 1>dissolving in the nineteen seventies, While the United States was

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<v Speaker 1>developing the space Shuttle program, the Soviet Union began to

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<v Speaker 1>look into creating a similar program to maintain tactical parody

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<v Speaker 1>with the US. There was a legitimate fear among Soviet

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<v Speaker 1>leadership that the space Shuttle was going to be put

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<v Speaker 1>to military use, which would put the Soviets at disadvantage,

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<v Speaker 1>and the engineers in the Soviet space program studied the

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<v Speaker 1>designs for the space Shuttle program, and they sort of

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<v Speaker 1>began to pick and choose which components of the space

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<v Speaker 1>Shuttle they thought were good in relation to the Soviet

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<v Speaker 1>space program and which ones they should reject. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviets had not developed a an enormous solid rocket

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<v Speaker 1>booster that the Space Shuttle would be using. The in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>Space Shell used two of them for liftoff, so the

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<v Speaker 1>Buron space program would instead rely on liquid propellant boosters,

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<v Speaker 1>not solid rocket fuel boosters. A Buran orbiter was launched

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<v Speaker 1>on November. This was actually several years behind schedule, as

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<v Speaker 1>the program was plagued with lots of problems, technological issues,

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<v Speaker 1>funding problems, a lot of managements. That's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet politicians further up the chain who were arguing with

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<v Speaker 1>one another as the years went by. This orbiter that

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<v Speaker 1>launched had no crew aboard it. It was a completely

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<v Speaker 1>autonomous flight. It flew to space, it returned, used automated systems,

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<v Speaker 1>and actually landed under automatic control, making it the first

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<v Speaker 1>space plane too go into space and return and land automatically.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a successful test of this technology, but the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of the program was incredible and the Soviet Union

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<v Speaker 1>was crumbling, so after the collapse of the Soviet regime,

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<v Speaker 1>the program languished. As far as I can tell, it

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<v Speaker 1>was never officially canceled, largely because frankly, the government had

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<v Speaker 1>bigger things to worry about having this this massive transition,

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<v Speaker 1>but because there were no funds, the program essentially ceased

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<v Speaker 1>to be without an official cancelation. Uh the orbiter was

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<v Speaker 1>stored in a hangar, but that hangar would later collapse

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<v Speaker 1>during a snowstorm and that would cause damage to the

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<v Speaker 1>spacecraft inside. Meanwhile, as Buron was preparing to make history

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<v Speaker 1>and its launch, there were engineers in the United Kingdom

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<v Speaker 1>who were working on a different concept. This was a

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<v Speaker 1>horizontal takeoff and landing vehicle called the Hotel h O

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<v Speaker 1>t o L horizontal or take off landing. The rocket

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<v Speaker 1>engine proposed for this vehicle was a special one called

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<v Speaker 1>the Rolls Royce RB five four five air slash liquid

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<v Speaker 1>hydrogen slash liquid oxygen rocket engine YEP. A Rolls Royce

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<v Speaker 1>engine falls into the category of a single stage to

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<v Speaker 1>orbit or s s O concept, so you would have

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<v Speaker 1>this one instead of a multi stage rocket, you have

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<v Speaker 1>this single stage method of getting this vehicle up into space.

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<v Speaker 1>The concept placed the engine at the rear end of

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle, so think of like a a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a space shuttle looking design, and then blunt the back

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<v Speaker 1>end and you know, you chopped the tail end of

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<v Speaker 1>it off and you place an engine right there on

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<v Speaker 1>the very back, and then the wings had to go

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<v Speaker 1>in the back too, because that's where the engine was.

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<v Speaker 1>And numerous calculations showed that they were going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to make a lot of different adjustments because the way

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<v Speaker 1>they had laid out the vehicle meant that its center

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<v Speaker 1>of gravity was not where it needed to be in

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<v Speaker 1>order for it to maintain efficient flight, so they had

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<v Speaker 1>to keep making tweaks, which led to compromises when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to the payload that the vehicle would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to carry, and eventually that reached a point where it

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<v Speaker 1>was clear that the concessions they were having to make

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<v Speaker 1>would make this aircraft unfeasible for practical use because you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to carry enough stuff in it to

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<v Speaker 1>make it worth the expense of launching it. So the

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<v Speaker 1>project was ultimately defunded, but a company called Reaction Engines

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<v Speaker 1>Limited resurrected that design to become the foundation for a

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<v Speaker 1>new project called Skylawn. Skylawn is still in development, and

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<v Speaker 1>assuming it ever becomes a reality, it will rely upon

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<v Speaker 1>an air breathing rocket propulsion system called SABER, which stands

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<v Speaker 1>for Synergetic air Breathing Rocket Engine. So I'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait and see if that ever becomes a reality. There

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<v Speaker 1>are people really working on it. The question is will

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<v Speaker 1>there ever be a working aircraft before something else happens,

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<v Speaker 1>like a project gets runs out of funding. In two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand four, a company co founded by Paul Allen, who

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the co founders of a little company

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<v Speaker 1>called Microsoft back in the nineteen seventies debuted an experimental

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<v Speaker 1>rocket powered vehicle called Spaceship one. Spaceship one is designed

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<v Speaker 1>to launch from a larger aircraft, so you can think

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<v Speaker 1>of it as a giant plane that has uh like

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<v Speaker 1>two fuselages, one on either side of an extreme uh

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<v Speaker 1>Maine design. In the center is a h a connector

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<v Speaker 1>where it can carry a payload underneath it. They call

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<v Speaker 1>it like a parasite system, kind of like a lamb

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<v Speaker 1>prey on a shark. I guess, And although that's a

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<v Speaker 1>not a parasite, it's a symbiotic anyway, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Spaceship one would be carried by this larger vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>which would then take it to a proper altitude, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the Spaceship one would detach and engage its engines

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<v Speaker 1>to continue its trip. The Spaceship one would become the

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<v Speaker 1>first private manned spacecraft to actually fly into space. Back

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand four, they won an X Prize for it.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a test bed vehicle in many ways. It

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<v Speaker 1>was not capable of orbital flight typically the way a

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<v Speaker 1>flight would work. I kind of mentioned this a second ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have the carrier aircraft, which was called the

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<v Speaker 1>White Knight that would climb to an altitude of about

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<v Speaker 1>nine miles or fourteen kilometers or so. Why Night would

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<v Speaker 1>then release Spaceship one, which would drop into a glide.

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<v Speaker 1>It would reach a safe distance from the carrier aircraft,

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<v Speaker 1>which wouldn't take long at all, and then ignite its

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<v Speaker 1>rocket engine. And when the rocket would fire, the spacecraft

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<v Speaker 1>craft would adjustice attitude to a climbing UH angle and

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<v Speaker 1>it would start climbing higher in altitude. The engines would

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<v Speaker 1>only fire for a relatively short time. The rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the flight upward would be empowered and driven by momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you had a long enough rocket burn you

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<v Speaker 1>could propel the craft beyond the carm online which is

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<v Speaker 1>at sixty two miles kilometers. And then the spacecraft would

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<v Speaker 1>change its wing configuration in order to create more drag,

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<v Speaker 1>So it would have a system where it's wings would

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<v Speaker 1>move in such a way to UH to do arrow braking.

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<v Speaker 1>By creating drag, it would slow. As it was slow down,

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<v Speaker 1>it would then start to lose altitude and re enter

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<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere and it would begin to descent and deceleration

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<v Speaker 1>process back to Earth. And I hear that the landing

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<v Speaker 1>would be more than a little bit bumpy, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was serviceable for an experimental aircraft. That design would lead

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 1>to the Spaceship Too. That one was built by the

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Spaceship Company. That company grew out of the one that

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<v Speaker 1>made Spaceship one, as well as a partnership with another company,

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<v Speaker 1>Virgin Group. These days, Virgin Galactic owns the Spaceship Company,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is where we get Virgin Galactic and that

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<v Speaker 1>proposal for a space tourism type of private spacecraft. The

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<v Speaker 1>spaceship to design is in many ways similar to Spaceship one.

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<v Speaker 1>It is carried by a larger aircraft, this time the

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<v Speaker 1>White Knight too. It's meant to be a passenger aircraft,

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<v Speaker 1>so you could actually have space tourism. Passengers wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 1>into orbit like the Spaceship one. This aircraft would cross

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<v Speaker 1>the Carman line. Passengers would experience free fall conditions, so

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<v Speaker 1>witlessness essentially. They would be able to experience that for

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<v Speaker 1>a short while before the aircraft re entered the Earth's

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere and would return home. It would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>hold up to six passengers and two pilots. In October,

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<v Speaker 1>the test vehicle Spaceship to VSS Enterprise had a tragic

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>accident uh it crashed after the aircraft had suffered some

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<v Speaker 1>damage during its flight. One of the co pilots died

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>in this crash, the other one was injured. An investigation

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<v Speaker 1>after the fact found that there were numerous problems that

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<v Speaker 1>could have contributed to this disaster, ranging from safeguard designs

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to perhaps an underprepared and anxious co pilot. So there

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>wasn't one issue necessarily that was at fault, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was a combination of problems that may have contributed to this.

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<v Speaker 1>The program, however, has continued. There is now the VSS

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<v Speaker 1>Unity space plane, which has conducted several test flights. Since

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<v Speaker 1>there's no word on when commercial flights will begin, but

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<v Speaker 1>Virgin Galactic has taken bookings for them. Flight will last

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<v Speaker 1>about two and a half hours and will include some

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<v Speaker 1>weightlessness on that flight, and a ticket on one of

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<v Speaker 1>these early Virgin Galactic flights will set you back the

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<v Speaker 1>princely sum of two hundred fifty thousand dollars, yes a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of a million bucks for a two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half hour space flight, our space plane flight. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean how that two and a half hours You're

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<v Speaker 1>only going to be spending a few minutes in the

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<v Speaker 1>weightlessness environment. So still, you know it could be a

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>once in a lifetime opportunity if you've got the cash.

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<v Speaker 1>Really starts to divide the haves and have nots in

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<v Speaker 1>a totally new way, doesn't it. Like those who have

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<v Speaker 1>been to space and those who haven't. I'm going to

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>be in that second category at that price range anyway,

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>in order for me to make enough money to finally

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<v Speaker 1>get to space. I'm going to take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>to thank our sponsor. Between the unveiling of Spaceship one

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<v Speaker 1>and the first test flighted Spaceship two, there were a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of other notable space plane developments. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to jump around chronology quite a bit. One

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<v Speaker 1>of those developments was the famously secret X thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>B a k a. The Orbital Test Vehicle or o

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<v Speaker 1>t V. X thirty seven actually covers a range of

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<v Speaker 1>different orbital test vehicles. The X thirty seven B is

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<v Speaker 1>the one we're particularly interested in because it's in use

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<v Speaker 1>right now as I record this podcast. So Boeing manufactured

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the X thirty seven B. The project began at NASA,

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<v Speaker 1>it changed hands to the Department of Defense in the

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<v Speaker 1>early two thousands and the Air Force oversees it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an unmanned spacecraft, so there's no pilot, there's no crew.

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<v Speaker 1>It's launched as a payload on a rocket launch vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>like SpaceX's Falcon nine, for example, and then it goes

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<v Speaker 1>into orbit, and it will orbit the Earth for given

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time dependent upon the mission, and it can

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<v Speaker 1>return to Earth and land as a space plane on

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<v Speaker 1>a landing strip. And it has done this four times already,

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<v Speaker 1>with the fifth mission still in uh in service as

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<v Speaker 1>of the recording of this podcast. So officially, the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of the X thirty seven B is to perform, as quote,

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<v Speaker 1>an experimental test program to demonstrate technologies for a reliable, reusable,

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>unmanned space test platform for the U S Air Force

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<v Speaker 1>end quote. It's supposed to test various systems and designs

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<v Speaker 1>for a sustainable approach to space operations. So in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>again more R and D, so that you can build

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>those capabilities into future practical vehicles. However, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people who have theories about other purposes the

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>X thirty seven B could fulfill practical applications it may

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<v Speaker 1>already be doing in addition to being a testing ground

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>such as acting as a surveillance tool like a spy satellite,

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>or even as a papens platform. In April two thousand eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>the Orbital Test Vehicle five mission hit a landmark when

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<v Speaker 1>it was announced the unmanned vehicle had spent two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>days in orbit. Uh. That isn't a landmark in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense of breaking any records. The previous orbital test vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>had all done that as well. The purpose of the mission,

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<v Speaker 1>at least the stated purpose of the mission is to

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<v Speaker 1>test experimental systems and how they hold up to the

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>rigors of space travel over time, including stuff like radiation exposure.

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<v Speaker 1>As of August, the orbiter was still circling the Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Satellite tracker in the Netherlands captured images of it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't know how long this mission will last.

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<v Speaker 1>The Air Force is notoriously quiet about the X three

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>seven B, giving only the bare minimum of information about it. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the past OTV missions have shown that they tend to

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>go up there for a very long time. Each O

0:32:55.960 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>t V mission would last longer than the one before

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<v Speaker 1>for it, so if we go by that, the o

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<v Speaker 1>t V five mission isn't even out of the first

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<v Speaker 1>half of its journey. The O t V four, the

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>one before this one, spent a total of seven eighteen

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>days in orbit from May to May. So if we're

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<v Speaker 1>just over two hundred, we're coming up on one year

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>for O t V five, we got a ways to go. If,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, it continues the trend of staying up there

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<v Speaker 1>longer than its predecessor. In the United States, the move

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<v Speaker 1>to create a space force suggests that projects like the

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<v Speaker 1>X three seven B will be leveraged to test out

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<v Speaker 1>systems with direct military applications beyond a research platform for

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>future designs. I am not necessarily in favor of that,

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>but it appears to be a reality. Remember earlier when

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about how the Bore four, that unmanned

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet test vehicle, inspired some U S engineers, Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for us to go back to that story. So again.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the after the first test flight of the

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Boar four, there was an Australian surveillance aircraft that caught

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<v Speaker 1>images of the Boar four when the Soviets were retrieving

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>it from the ocean. American engineers would pour over those

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.759
<v Speaker 1>images to figure out what the Soviets were up to

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and work began on designing their own model of the

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Boar four. They use those images to build a reconstruction

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 1>of it. The American engineers discovered that the Boar four

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.959
<v Speaker 1>shape was particularly good for stable flight and would allow

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<v Speaker 1>for extreme maneuverability in glide mode. Well in the wake

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<v Speaker 1>of the Challenger accident in the mid eighties, NASA began

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to look into other potential solutions that might be used

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:48.320
<v Speaker 1>to transport astronauts safely back to Earth if they were

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 1>on say, a space station, it would be an emergency

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>return vehicle, essentially something that could hold up to ten

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>passengers at a time, possibly Now this was when the

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.399
<v Speaker 1>United States was also considering the construction of a new

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.760
<v Speaker 1>space station that would have been called space Station Freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>The vehicle's designation for this escape vehicle was h L

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<v Speaker 1>DASH twenty. Engineers would build a full scale mock up

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<v Speaker 1>of the h L twenty, but by the time that happened,

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>things had already changed politically. The United States was now

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>partnered with Russia on a new project, the International Space Station,

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and part of that design included relying upon a Russian

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<v Speaker 1>Soyu's capsule, which would use the ballistics method of re

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>entry into the Art's atmosphere in order to land back

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 1>on Earth, and that would become the lifeboat for this

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>international space station. It seemed to negate the need for

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<v Speaker 1>the HL twenty. Flash forward several years in, a company

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<v Speaker 1>called space Dev announced that it was going to use

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the HL twenty design as a starting point for a

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<v Speaker 1>new reusable spacecraft that could be operated as a means

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<v Speaker 1>of taking crew to and from the space station. The

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>announcement came in right around the same time that NASA

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 1>was explaining that the space Shuttle program was wrapping up.

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<v Speaker 1>This new spacecraft was called the Dream Chaser. Space Dev

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the companies that bid for money from

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>NASA in order to continue developing its space plane design

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:13.399
<v Speaker 1>because NASA was in need of some sort of spacecraft

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>that could be sent up to the International Space Station

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>since the Space Shuttle program was ending. But in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>NASA decided to focus on SpaceX and Boeing for that,

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and both of those companies were designing capsules that resemble

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of the Apollo spacecraft in general design, so again

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>they would use sort of the ballistic re entry method

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>rather than a space plane guided landing method. In twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>space Dev's parent company, Sierra Nevada Corporation, would secure a

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>contract with NASA to perform six delivery missions for that

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>space agency, with a contract term going from late twenty

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 1>nineteen up to twenty four The dream Chaser design had

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<v Speaker 1>to be changed significantly for this agreement, so they stripped

0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 1>out a lot of the crew capacity, so that I

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>think six crew seats were taken out, and that whole

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>section was converted so it could hold pressurized or unpressurized cargo.

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<v Speaker 1>The company still plans to pursue the the crew version

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>of the dream Chaser in the future. They're hoping that

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 1>they can revisit that in tw so they haven't abandoned

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that idea entirely, but in the meantime they're also working

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 1>on this other version of their vehicle which has practical application.

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Boeing meanwhile is working on another space plane design that

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<v Speaker 1>has the DARPA designation of Excess one Excess standing for

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>experimental space plane. Boeing calls this aircraft the Phantom Express.

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<v Speaker 1>This autonomous space plane is a vertical takeoff, horizontal landing spacecraft,

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 1>so the the engine on this is designed to take

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 1>off vertically like it was a space Shuttle, except it's

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>all part of the same vehicle, it's not on a

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>booster rocket. The goal of the spacecraft is ambitious. It

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>is to be able to launch into space, deliver small

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 1>satellites to orbit and return in the same day, and

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>then get refurbished and turned around in order to be

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>usable within twenty four hours, with a goal of doing

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<v Speaker 1>this for ten days in a row. Such a plane

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 1>would significantly bring down the costs of launching smaller satellites.

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>It would reduce the need to have those smaller satellites

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<v Speaker 1>piggyback on top of larger payloads. Typically, if you have

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>a small satellite and you want to launch it into orbit,

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>you have to wait. You have to wait until there's

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 1>a payload that still has some room for your small satellite,

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>because the cost would be prohibitive to just send your

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 1>satellite up. This would bring those costs way down. The

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<v Speaker 1>Phantom Express would include a space plane that would also

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<v Speaker 1>act like the booster rocket. It would send the craft

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>into space, but there would be on top on the

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<v Speaker 1>back of this space plane what would essentially look like

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a secondary rocket. The payload would actually be attached to

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>this secondary rocket, and once it reached a certain altitude,

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>it would launch this secondary rocket off the back of

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the space plane, and the secondary rocket would push the

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>payload into the proper orbit. Meanwhile, the space plane would decelerate,

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>reenter the air's atmosphere, and come back and land under

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>its own power, so it would be ready to use

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 1>right away. I don't know about the secondary rocket. I

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>honestly don't know if that's designed to be recoverable or not.

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I would think it would be, but perhaps not it

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe that that's just a one use only component. There

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.240
<v Speaker 1>are several other space planes that are in various stages

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>of development. China. The air space program has several promising designs. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another design called Black Ice for a private space plane.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a concept from Strato Launch Systems, which was

0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>also founded by Paul Allen of Microsoft fame. The Black

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Ice concept would launch from the largest airplane ever built,

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the Strato Launch. I have to do a full episode

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 1>on Strate Launch at some point. The Strate Launch has

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<v Speaker 1>a wingspan of three five feet, which is a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen meters, and it has six bowing seven forty seven

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>engines that it uses to generate lift for flight. UH.

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>The Strato Launch or really to propel itself so that

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 1>creates enough lift for flight. I should say I was oversimplifying,

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>but the Strateo launch hasn't flown yet as of the

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>recording of this podcast. It has conducted some tests on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, including a recent taxi test where it traveled

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>at eighty miles per hour down a runway. It would

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 1>need to travel at least a hundred forty miles per

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>hour in order for it to take off, but these

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 1>are early tests to make sure that the design of

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.920
<v Speaker 1>the aircraft is sufficient so it will hold together. You

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>know it will, it will actually be stable. More tests

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 1>will follow, but the company does hope to reach the

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>point where the aircraft will fly and carry payloads by

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and there are lots of stories of failed projects. There's,

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>for example, the x Core links, which was supposed to

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>go for a test flight back in The company behind it, however,

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>went bankrupt and all of its assets were sold off.

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>But perhaps I'll go into more detail in those projects

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>in a future episode. I hope you guys enjoyed this

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<v Speaker 1>pair of episodes about space planes and our return to space.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not exactly the same thing as a full week

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<v Speaker 1>and a half of space related topics like the last time,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought it was pretty interesting and obviously, creating

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<v Speaker 1>a reusable vehicle that can return under its own power

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<v Speaker 1>and be turned back around to fly again in a

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<v Speaker 1>short time frame would really transform the way we access

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<v Speaker 1>and utilize space, possibly for good, possibly for ill. But

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<v Speaker 1>it would definitely bring that price down, and maybe eventually

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<v Speaker 1>it would bring the brice down enough so that a

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<v Speaker 1>a ticket and and get up there and experience what

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<v Speaker 1>spaces like for even a short amount of time. Um

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<v Speaker 1>I would even take a parabolic flight where it's just

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