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Speaker 1: This is Frost Tips with Lance Bass and I heard

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Speaker 1: radio podcast. Hello my Little Peanuts, it's me your host,

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Speaker 1: Lance Bass. This is Frostit Tips, so me Lance Bass.

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays everyone. I got drewpe with me today. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited to have this man on. I keep

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Speaker 1: running into this guy a lot over the years, and

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Speaker 1: he's a part of this kind of nineties entertainment family

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Speaker 1: that you know, you just you know, we're not I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say that we're close friends. We don't call each

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Speaker 1: other and hang out, but when you do something like

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Speaker 1: as big as family matters and beyond TGIF and then

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Speaker 1: of course my group and seeing comes out at the

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Speaker 1: same exact time, Yeah, you kind of have this bond

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Speaker 1: without even really knowing each other. I kind of said

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Speaker 1: the same thing with Liam passed away, you know, a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago. I never met the guy, But you

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Speaker 1: just have this I don't know, you just feel like

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Speaker 1: this little family. It's like going to the same college

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Speaker 1: or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, when you meet some from your hometown, you

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Speaker 2: never like know them.

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Speaker 1: But that's a perfect example because there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: people like Mary Elizabeth Ellis, you know, uh, she's on

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Speaker 1: sunny in Philadelphia, married to Charlie Day.

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Speaker 2: We're from the same hometown, Laurel, Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: Never met her in Laurel, but here in la when

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Speaker 1: I got to meet her and we see each other,

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Speaker 1: it's this bond we have.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're just like shared experience. It, yeah, shared experience.

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Speaker 1: And especially when your childhood because you know the same

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Speaker 1: you know bakeries, you went to the same Christmas parade

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Speaker 1: that you would do with your family. I just always

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Speaker 1: feel like family when I see Julil I see.

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Speaker 3: Him on lots of things. He seems like a genuinely

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Speaker 3: nice guy. I've seen him in interviews and some on

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Speaker 3: the view recently. He seems that he's made it out

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Speaker 3: of that childhood stardom and and seems grounded and normal.

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Speaker 2: He seems like a nice guy. I look forward to talking. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: great family man.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you know what I'm gonna do this whole interview.

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Speaker 1: What's that I am going to go a whole interview

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Speaker 1: with jillil White without saying his character's name from Family Matters,

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Speaker 1: Not gonna say it one time because I know he's

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Speaker 1: probably so sick and tired.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about that character.

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Speaker 4: We all know it.

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Speaker 2: We all know what he went through. I will take

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Speaker 2: that bet.

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Speaker 3: Okay that there's no way in heck you will go

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Speaker 3: the entire podcast at the cast without saying.

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Speaker 2: All right, what do I win. We're gonna figure that out.

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Speaker 1: I'll go to Towny Bagel and figure, oh, thank you,

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Speaker 1: it's our favorite babel place here in Palm Springs.

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Speaker 2: A little playing plug. Good luck getting in the lines

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Speaker 2: of block around yeah, around the block. Yeah. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I can only.

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Speaker 1: Imagine I enjoy talking about the instant days, right, but

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Speaker 1: you know, there comes a time where's like, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: so overtelling that exact same story for the last twenty

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Speaker 1: five years.

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Speaker 2: So I get it.

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Speaker 1: He probably gets a little like, Okay, there we go.

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Speaker 1: There's another interview. I have to talk about everything. So

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Speaker 1: let's see how long I go without saying the name.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to hearing it, and I'm proud I

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Speaker 1: still haven't said it. But not even not even in

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Speaker 1: the intro here have I even brought it up.

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Speaker 3: You know, I wanted to talk about the fact that

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Speaker 3: you just recently hosted the the Grove Tree Lighting. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and this this they do it annually.

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Speaker 2: It's the twenty third annual and you just got done

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Speaker 2: hosting it.

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Speaker 3: I saw it all from behind the scenes, got to

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Speaker 3: help out a little with the script.

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Speaker 2: But you were a great Drew was over there like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was. I was really in between commercialaces. You ready

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Speaker 2: for this? You want to try this one? Making changes

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Speaker 3: No, but but but what I realized was that that

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Speaker 3: whole situation with the tree lighting was a huge which

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Speaker 3: is a huge ordeal.

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Speaker 2: They had like six or seven performances. Huge. I've never

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Speaker 3: I lived in I live in Los Angeles since before

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Speaker 2: I've never been to it before. It's the twenty third

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Speaker 1: And to me, because you know, I've been to this

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Speaker 1: lighting before, because it is to me, the most beautiful

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Speaker 1: Christmas tree lighting in the country. I've done Rockefeller, I've

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Speaker 1: done all kinds of little towns out there. This one's

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Speaker 1: special because Rick Caruso and his old Cruso team, they

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Speaker 1: build beautiful spots. So if you've not been to the

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Speaker 1: grove here in Los Angeles, Uh, there's the What Americana. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's all these different malls they build a different properties

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Speaker 1: at the Hills, Rosewood hotel in Santa Barbara, gorgeous hotels,

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Speaker 1: over the top experiences and just really beautiful places of

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Speaker 3: Well and they and they broadcast this thing all across

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Speaker 3: the country on box stations all and they're broadcasting it

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Speaker 3: over and over again. So this is what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: is like, not only was it Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving Eve

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Speaker 3: and all of that, but it's gonna be around Christmas again, Eve.

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Speaker 2: And Christmas Day ever. You're all over the place. It's fun.

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Speaker 2: It's really fun.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, after this experience, Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I loved you know, obviously I love posting, and especially

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Speaker 1: if it has anything to do with a holiday.

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Speaker 2: So it really is kind of like my perfect gig.

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Speaker 1: So I'm actually talking them about doing this again, maybe

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Speaker 1: next year, but making making it bigger.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this year was big.

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Speaker 1: We had Ryan Tetter, Rachel Platten, uh, we had Schalea,

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Speaker 1: we had the girl who won American Idol.

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Speaker 3: I know, when once you started listing people, I was like,

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Speaker 3: we don't have a list.

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Speaker 2: In front of us were a lot of really it

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Speaker 2: was great, beautiful.

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Speaker 1: We had we had dancers that looked like the Rockets,

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Speaker 1: but they weren't the rockets because we're in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it snows.

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Speaker 1: One of the coolest How they get it to snow

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Speaker 2: Spoiler, it's so so it's true. I know it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to burst your bubble. It wasn't real snow.

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Speaker 2: I knew it wasn't real snow. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think I just taught you something like that snow

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Speaker 1: It was real snow, but I didn't know what it was. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But here's the coolest thing about the show. Not only

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Speaker 1: is it the Santa is a man. Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: like the legit Santa people, Uh it was this one?

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Speaker 2: Is this this is.

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Speaker 1: The guy if you saw the Thanksgiving Day parade Macy's, yeah,

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Speaker 1: real one, all right, And we got him at this

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Speaker 1: tree lighting ceremony. But you know what my favorite part

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Speaker 1: was you singing No, it wasn't that part because that

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Speaker 1: was like a karaoke moment. Next year, if I do

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Speaker 1: this my real moment next year, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: do a little little sing along karaoke moment.

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Speaker 2: Good, but you want to do something serious. It's Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Christmas time is my thing because Christmas music it's for crooners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm a crooner. Yeah, you know, I get

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Speaker 2: to use my basy voice.

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Speaker 1: So this is this is my I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: this is my Christmas.

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Speaker 2: It's my Christmas. I don't know. But what would you do?

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Speaker 2: Would you do like fantasy Baby? No? No? Hello?

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Speaker 1: Did we just go over to the fact that I'm

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Speaker 1: a I know, but I Sinatra Dean Martin?

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Speaker 2: Yes, like, oh yeah, you got to you know, fun Crome,

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Speaker 2: Little Elvis come on. Okay, So yeah, so I think

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Speaker 2: about anyway, the Drone show was the best. That was crazy.

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Speaker 1: I've seen some drone shows on television before, but to

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Speaker 1: see it in person, it was incredible. Well, how do

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Speaker 1: I still understand how they can do this?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, if you want to watch it, just search the

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Speaker 3: twenty third annual the Grow Tree Lighting Celebration on your

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Speaker 3: dirug TV or wherever you watch TV and you will

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Speaker 3: be able to see mister Bass host the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and again, next year, if I do this,

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Speaker 1: because we did have a good rehearsal the night before,

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Speaker 1: especially the ending. Yeah, I had we didn't rehearse the ending.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea how the show was going to

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, I'm on stage with

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Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, I didn't I don't even know what

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Speaker 2: Santa did it? Uh singing? I was supposed to end

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Speaker 2: the show ended it a color. You should not be

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Speaker 2: talking trash. You're gonna want this.

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Speaker 1: Show, but this show is all about an insider information

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the show.

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Speaker 3: I saw you on that stage when when everything was

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Speaker 3: managed to sort of figure it out, like Okay, I

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Speaker 3: so on.

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Speaker 2: It's over.

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Speaker 5: You know I'm going wrong and strong the run through

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Speaker 5: went so long the night before that they didn't really

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Speaker 2: But somehow it worked. Magic. It was magical, well was

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Speaker 2: it was Christmas matchic. It was Christmas magic. It was

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Speaker 1: Before we get to Jalil, we do have to touch

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Speaker 1: on Wicked because I haven't seen you guys in forever.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say it.

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Speaker 1: It's the best movie we've seen in a very very,

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Speaker 1: very long time. And it's not a bandwagon thing. I

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Speaker 1: don't care if you like musicals or not. You go

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Speaker 1: see this movie. I dare you to say you don't

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Speaker 1: like this movie.

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Speaker 2: There's a trend.

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Speaker 3: There's a trend on TikTok straight guys doing doing long

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Speaker 3: soliloquies talking about their love of this musical that they

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Speaker 3: don't like musicals in general, they don't whatever, And and

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Speaker 3: they're like, you can scroll and see a bunch of

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Speaker 3: straight guys talking about for some reason, and they act

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Speaker 3: like Wicked just came out of nowhere, that it has

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Speaker 3: have been around as a musical for twenty twenty years.

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Speaker 3: They're like, what is this song defying gravity? This is

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Speaker 3: my new workout song. Like you can scroll on TikTok

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Speaker 3: and C Street.

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Speaker 2: They say it's their new workouts. Yeah. No, last night

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Speaker 1: One guy says on his way work Now, all straight guys,

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Speaker 1: you're speaking for all straight guys telling you.

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Speaker 3: There's a trend. It's crossing. It's a four quadrant movie. Okay,

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Speaker 2: how's it going, buddy? What's going on? Shades? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Is this why we're doing? Nice? How have you been?

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Speaker 1: For you, boy, Nice, Well, you know last time I

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Speaker 4: You know, I actually have to criticize Lands for that.

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Speaker 4: Show that comes on in sunglasses, all right, he goes,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember those days. We always do the one gift,

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Speaker 4: I'm just happy I'm past the age of needing the

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Speaker 2: You like yuppel.

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Speaker 4: My day is trash, Like this is so happy to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. See, and I'm just getting started with that. See

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Speaker 4: Seriously, Like, if you have stuff that's gonna need to

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Speaker 2: That is brilliant and I will be doing that for sure.

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Speaker 2: You've gotta be you got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. You know, now that the kids are

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Speaker 4: Who is Santa Claus? Who is Santa Claus?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: But it's you know, I feel I feel guilty, you know,

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Speaker 1: I have to be good. Oh he's actually watching. Oh

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Speaker 4: I wish I could go back to my daughter being three,

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Speaker 1: One tradition that we started last year is you know,

441
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: we we we put wrapping paper all over like the

442
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: entry to the living room where they're going to celebrate

443
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 1: Christmas and Usenna came and so they get to bust

444
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: through the wrapping paper like it's one big present.

445
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

446
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: So we're trying little things here and there. So I

447
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to stick, but we're trying little things.

448
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 4: Every year.

449
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: It's going to change, that's all I'm gonna let you know.

450
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're at that point now where they're not

451
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 1: really asking for anything, and I have so much stuff

452
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: still when they were born. I have presents that you know,

453
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: people gave you when they were born that they couldn't

454
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: even use until they're three, and it's just been sitting

455
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 1: in the garage until now. So I have all these

456
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: presents I got from three years ago that I'm just

457
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: repurposing for Christmas because they're old enough to be able

458
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: to use it now and they'll never know, so I

459
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 1: don't really have to buy Christmas presents this year, which

460
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: is amazing.

461
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 4: Game making the people at home feel bad. And man,

462
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 4: it's so rich. He's backloaded in Christmas presents.

463
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: He's just go get some stuff off the show and

464
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: wrapped it up for me. It's so rich.

465
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: But every parent cann't understand when your kid is born

466
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Speaker 1: and then someone gives you a gift that they can't use,

467
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: so they're three years old, and like, what am I

468
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: going to do with that right now?

469
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 2: Well, now I know Christmas three years later. It happens

470
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: in one of the guest bedrooms.

471
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Speaker 3: But you know, I will say, because I was at

472
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 3: a baby shower or two when the kids were, uh,

473
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 3: we're about to come into the world lands. And I

474
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: will say that even not just your baby shower, but

475
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: other everybody gets lots of stuff or gets a handful

476
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 3: of things, some of which is actually useful in.

477
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 2: The beginning, and some of which isn't useful. So it's

478
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: not just about being rich. It's also just you know,

479
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 2: people are very.

480
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: Generous when when you're having a kid, and I think

481
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: it's kind of smart to kind of hold some of

482
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 3: that stuff back and say, we ain't gonna use that

483
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: right away. Let's let's just put it on the back burner.

484
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: Let's put it on a shelf, and we'll wrap it

485
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: in a few years when it makes sense. That's that's

486
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 3: that's just that's thinking, that's thinking a little bit smart

487
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Speaker 3: there for stimulation.

488
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Speaker 4: The first two years of my daughter's life, I wasn't

489
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 4: even completely aware of where her clothes came from. It

490
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: was just like a closet materialized.

491
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: I know.

492
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: The clothes is a whole other story, because they outgrow

493
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: them every you know, two weeks and then I'll go

494
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: into and there and I see this amazing, like I've

495
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: never seen this, this is so great. I put it

496
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: on and it doesn't fit. I'm like, well, I didn't

497
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: get one use out one that was a waste. Yeah,

498
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's always, you know, always donate, always, you know,

499
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: going on to the next there's so much wastefulness and

500
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: like children's stuff, toys, clothes, so much waste.

501
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: But I digress. All right, let's get into the good stuff, Jail.

502
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: Now, you've done so much since family matters, and I'd

503
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: like to know, like share one project or role that

504
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: you were especially proud of that people might not immediately

505
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: know about.

506
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I love that question.

507
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 4: Man, See that would come from a guy like you.

508
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: You get it, you know what.

509
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 4: Total Blackout was a show that I hosted in twenty

510
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 4: twelve for the Sci Fi Channel and it was fantastic.

511
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 4: It was honestly one of my favorite gigs just being

512
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 4: a host of that show. We would put people in

513
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 4: pitch black darkness. They couldn't even see their hand for

514
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 4: time challenges like they'd have to guess the weight of

515
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 4: crocodiles and stuff. They reach down there, they feel the tail,

516
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: they freak out because it's pitch black darkness. And that

517
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 4: was It's a fun, fun game, and I didn't realize

518
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 4: that that actually kind of put me on a path

519
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: for more hosting. It's taken a while to even get

520
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 4: back to an opportunity that was the equivalent of that.

521
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 4: I'm a host of Flip Side now, but you know,

522
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: probably took about shoot, yeah, twelve years, so I did

523
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 4: a lot of game shows in between.

524
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: But Total Blackout I'm so proud of.

525
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 4: And I just wish Freemantle and and Sci Fi had

526
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 4: been able to come to terms that made sense because

527
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 4: we didn't go away because people weren't watching. Everybody was watching,

528
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 4: like we licked Twitter up. But I was doing Dancing

529
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 4: with the Stars at the time, and everybody was like,

530
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 4: what the hell are they doing to these people? They

531
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: fell in love with the game show quick, but business

532
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 4: stuff behind the scenes was tearing us down.

533
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: So there's that. I'd have to say.

534
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 4: Dream Girls was really special because of the size of

535
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 4: the cast. You know, I remember the moment I met

536
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: Jennifer Hudson in the in the makeup trailer, and she's

537
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 4: this fresh faced girl that you know, was on American Idol,

538
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 4: and I love how they try to take credit for

539
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: what she did and Dream.

540
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: Girls and they had nothing to do with it.

541
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: But I knew when I saw her and the performed

542
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: just once on the stead, I was like, oh, she

543
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 4: gon't get nominated, and uh, you know, obviously blew all

544
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: of our minds when she won. So that was really

545
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 4: cool because I've never been on a set that powerful before.

546
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: But those two jobs for me, like, you know, those

547
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: were those were me getting my grind on and and

548
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: you know, and the business kind of rewarded me a

549
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: little bit. It is nice going to a set that,

550
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: uh just has a budget. You know, you're like, oh, bro, bro.

551
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 4: They had all the moneys, they had all the money,

552
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 4: They had a separate base camp just for everybody's black mercedings.

553
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: You know.

554
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: You you you said something about trying to take credit

555
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 3: for Jennifer Hudson, you know, and she was.

556
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 2: She was still really fresh and new to the business

557
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: at that point.

558
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: And I wonder if you recognized that at because you

559
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: saw versions of that maybe in your own life or

560
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: in other young actors that were coming along, Like is

561
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: that is that a typical kind of behavior that these

562
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: executives come along and they try to own something that

563
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 3: they have no business owning, such.

564
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: As the talent that you're bringing to the situation or

565
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on that?

566
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 4: You know, I just think it's about blombing onto what's

567
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 4: hot and attached and what's trending, you know, and you know,

568
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 4: maybe no just assigning yourself some undue credit quite frankly,

569
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: where it's like, you know, she was on the show,

570
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 4: she got eliminated, she didn't win, you know, and it

571
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 4: was nice having a nice life and you know, looking

572
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 4: for this very very needed character of Fie White in

573
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 4: dream Girls, they discover this girl named. The producers of

574
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 4: dream Girls, not American Idol, call and said, hey, we

575
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 4: want to look out, you know, on this real get.

576
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: Out of here.

577
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: You know, she lands this plumb role that's getting a

578
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: lot of pressed and of course the natural thing for

579
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: American Island News we just covered her first.

580
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: You know what it is, you know what it is

581
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: to put it in fun of your terms.

582
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: It's like when you're ex brags to everybody that they

583
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 4: knew you after you win something really.

584
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: Cool and oh no, oh no, I know him. Back

585
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: years ago we dated.

586
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: Inter just didn't work out.

587
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: You know, I want to go back to like the

588
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: hosting thing, because now people hosting game shows and they're

589
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: all talking about it's the thing. You know, it's like

590
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: this is like the thing to get, you know, Drew Barrymore,

591
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: Jennifer Hudson. I mean everyone's like just buying to do

592
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: these talk shows and game shows.

593
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: Really like back in our.

594
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: Day, you know, the nineties, two thousands, that was down upon,

595
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: like you would never even go out host a show

596
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: like that.

597
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: Why do you think that has changed? Why do you

598
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: think that people now.

599
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: Accept actors and musicians doing these roles of you know,

600
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: of a hosting that would just normally go to, you know,

601
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: a certified host.

602
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you know, you got to look

603
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 4: past the manipulation. And you know, so when I say

604
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: look past the manipulation, I'm saying like a lot of

605
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 4: top tier A list actors, you know, award winning actors,

606
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: they've been doing commercials and stuff for years, and and

607
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 4: the smart ones, the slick ones, they would do them

608
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: in Europe and Japan, they wouldn't do them here in America.

609
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: But they pick up their bag.

610
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: And once you get to a certain level of earnings,

611
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: you know, there's certain things that you have to entertain

612
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: that may not necessarily come with prestige. So I think

613
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 4: what's happening with social media is now. The social media

614
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: has created almost an even playing field for what is

615
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 4: considered celebrity.

616
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: I think you, all of.

617
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 4: Us, are better off finding organic ways to connect with

618
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 4: large audiences that serve our dignity and serve the audience.

619
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: You know, what I love about my game show is like, look,

620
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: I'm a father first, Guys like, I got a family,

621
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 4: I gotta I got, you know, a fifteen year old

622
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: daughter who's running me ragged with volleyball obligations.

623
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: And you know, you know, I like make I like

624
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: having fun online, you know, but I also.

625
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 4: Don't like feeling like if I don't if I don't

626
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 4: record myself cooking in my kitchen for TikTok, I'm not

627
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 4: going to have a career. I don't want to feel

628
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: I don't want to your freaking lands mask dog like.

629
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: I don't want you to feel that way either, So,

630
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: you know, begetting the jobs.

631
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: That keep you in front of people, or at least

632
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: a good audience of people where you don't feel like

633
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 4: you're forcing them yourself on them. People love gang shows, bro,

634
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: they love talk shows, and and so as times change,

635
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 4: those just become ways that I think traditional media personalities

636
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 4: can can remain visible working and our brains are fired.

637
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: Does that make sense a little bit? It totally does.

638
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: If you could design, you know, because all of us,

639
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, entertainers, we have dream projects. So I were like,

640
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: I have this idea, but I have no one to

641
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: really bring it to life. If you could design that

642
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: dream project, if it's acting, directing, producing, whatever, it would be,

643
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: what would that look like?

644
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: Like?

645
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: What what is your dream?

646
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: I mean I have a couple of them, you know,

647
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: one this darn book I just put out when they

648
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: comes out, Growing Up Herkle, and I just I love

649
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: the nineties man, like I have a real I just

650
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: have a timeless crush on that decade. I feel like

651
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: my entire life, I'm still chasing the summer of nineteen

652
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 4: ninety five for multitude of reasons. Everybody asked me about

653
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: reboot stuff, and I just it's not selfish at all.

654
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: I just know the reality.

655
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 4: I'm like me with Laura and some kid named Steve

656
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: Erkle Junior is going to get the entire country.

657
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: To watch once.

658
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 4: Then they're going to go to comments and ready threads

659
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 4: and stuff like that to say how terrible we are.

660
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: Oh he doesn't sound the same, he's older, He doesn't

661
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 4: even look the same in those type bands. And you know,

662
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's amazing to me in our business that

663
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: because of social media, we get invited to ruin our lives,

664
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 4: like by email every week, you know.

665
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: So for me, the show that I think other people.

666
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 4: Would enjoy that would benefit the children involved is us

667
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 4: playing those kids working on a set making that show

668
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: in the nineties and all of the things that happened

669
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: that we collided with. You know, I was there at

670
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 4: MTD rocking job the first time Marking Mark dropped his

671
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 4: draws and I'm sitting there on the sideline like, yo,

672
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: this guy's gonna get in so much trouble.

673
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: Trouble. Next week he had a billboard on sunset and

674
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: he was even more naked. He was right. I'm like,

675
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: my childhood runs.

676
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: Through that stuff like a train man. My graduation day

677
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 4: of high school, ojay, We're driving right beneath the Bonaventure

678
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: Hotel and everybody was rushing to the window to see

679
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 4: this white Bronco pass by on my graduation day and

680
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: I'm arguing with the bartender, can you please put on

681
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: the Knicks versus Houston? And he's like, I'm sorry, everybody

682
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: wants to see this.

683
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: And it's like, who's gonna care about this? It's a

684
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: stupid white truck.

685
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: That's a great line of dialogue to put in, you know,

686
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: a seventeen year old actor's mouth and make a really

687
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 4: awesome family show that I think.

688
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: Gives us the wonder years that we deserve, which more

689
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: than nineties.

690
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 4: So that's one dream project that I have a bunch

691
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 4: like it that it doesn't just benefit me.

692
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: I'm not even the star of that. A new kid

693
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: is the star of that.

694
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: But I think that kid would get invited to some

695
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 4: award shows that I didn't get invited to.

696
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: I love that idea, I think, and I think you should. Yeah,

697
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: write it. Let's do this and we'll see this all.

698
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 4: We'll see we started with the book, we'll see where

699
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 4: that takes us.

700
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: How was it writing this book?

701
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: You know, I've written a couple of books now, and

702
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: you know it's challenging. People don't understand how stressful it

703
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: can be, especially when you have deadlines and all that.

704
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: How the deadlines damn deadlines?

705
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 2: Writing this book? You know that doubt?

706
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: Wow, I can't ignore it because you brought it up.

707
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: You know, writing with the deadlines are It's tough because

708
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: it doesn't stop for life. And you know, when when

709
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: life happens to you, you still have a lot of

710
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: people screaming at you on email the next morning, like

711
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: where is it?

712
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: Where is it?

713
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: You know?

714
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: The good news is that it it forces you to

715
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 4: keep going. And I think that's really what life is

716
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 4: all about. And that's partially actually what my book is

717
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: all about. It's just perseverance and not everything's gonna go

718
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 4: the way you wanted to go, and there's gonna go

719
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: through entire years of your life where things ain't going

720
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 4: the way you.

721
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: Want it to go.

722
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 4: And that can be really frustrating because you can't see

723
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 4: the light at the end of the tunnel. But boy,

724
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 4: this year, man, I'm really experiencing a light at the

725
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 4: end of the tunnel. Even my background, I made it

726
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: space because Skeleton Crew came out this week and you know,

727
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 4: we've waited two weeks for that. I mean, sorry, we've

728
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: waited two years for that to to hit the hit

729
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 4: the Disney Plus platform. Uh, And I'm so excited for

730
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: I'm excited for those kids, like they're older, you know,

731
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 4: the stars of the I'm like, yeah, they're they're dressed there.

732
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 4: Our dressing rooms were next to each other, and uh,

733
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 4: you know they're they're significantly older. But that was all

734
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: delayed by pandemic and striketh. So you know, I don't know,

735
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: I'm just more grateful now. But the writing the book

736
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 4: man was very challenging with the dead, but I had

737
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 4: a great editor and uh, and I just want to

738
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 4: give everybody to feel the eighties and the nineties.

739
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's lands.

740
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: It feels like we maybe should option his book and

741
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 3: start developing the show that he's talking about here.

742
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: I feel we'll talk we'll talk about Well, I'm definitely

743
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: team in sick.

744
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 4: I'm just letting you know I'm team in Sick.

745
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we wouldn't have you on here if you

746
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,479
Speaker 1: weren't you little I mean, I mean in your book also,

747
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean you must have great performers out there, you know,

748
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: starting at you know, so young, uh, and growing up

749
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: in the industry. What is that one piece of advice

750
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: that you like to give young actors or anyone starting

751
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: out business.

752
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow, be humble, but be aware.

753
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: You know you got that, you got that guiding light

754
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: inside of you that starts it starts rather laid inside

755
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: when you know you're being treated a certain way, it

756
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: doesn't feel right. But also, you know, be careful how

757
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: you're treating other people because now we're really living in

758
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 4: the age where I know I went out of my

759
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 4: way to be kind to a lot of people because

760
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: that was just always my natural nature anyway, So when

761
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: I see in a random comment section.

762
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: Then I met that guy at the mall in Orlando,

763
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: and he was so cool.

764
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 4: You know, that actually really warms my heart because we

765
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 4: never would have thought that we would reach this zenith

766
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 4: point where people that you had minimal contact with, you know,

767
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: would have such a loud voice and in crafting who

768
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 4: you really are and letting people other people to see

769
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 4: who you really are. So be careful how you treat

770
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: how you treat people. And uh, you know it's okay

771
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 4: to be humble, you gotta be humble.

772
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: But be aware.

773
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it must be hard to stay grounded, you know,

774
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: through the family and you've been in the public eye

775
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: since you were a kid.

776
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: What's uh, what's the one thing you do or keep

777
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: in your life to stay ground.

778
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 4: That partas my wife and my daughter are unimpressed by

779
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 4: any aspect of celebrity pretending to me, it's just something

780
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: that's probably holding us up going into a building or

781
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: getting into a car. So they're they're unimpressed from that standpoint.

782
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 4: I'm such a family guy at heart that everything I

783
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 4: do is for them. I really believe the Lord gave

784
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 4: me a daughter just to keep me going in the business.

785
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 4: You know, without a family, I'd be in Columbia.

786
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: Somewhere doing doing other things that I probably shouldn't be doing.

787
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: But Plumbia is a fun country, by the way, it's

788
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: a fun country. It's wonderful.

789
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 4: That's a good but but with but with a family, man,

790
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: I just I'm I'm so accountable.

791
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: You know.

792
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 4: I would never do anything to embarrass my daughter.

793
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: I would never do anything to embarrass my wife. And

794
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: uh you know it would It would break me like

795
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: any guy. So yeah, and how old that she's seven?

796
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 4: Now?

797
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: No, my daughter's fifteen.

798
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 4: Playboy she fifteen?

799
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Okay, so she is this generation that

800
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: has rediscovered I heard.

801
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: The T G I F World and the whole nineties explosion?

802
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: Are you doing that from her and her friends that

803
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: they're like.

804
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, my daughter, I'm a mean to my daughter that

805
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: maybe her friends might send to her to get on

806
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: her nerves every now and then. My daughter was indoctrinated

807
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: with with with with family matters when she was four

808
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 4: years old by my mother over a couple of weekends, and.

809
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: She had the Aircle doll and you.

810
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 4: Know, it was cute for a few weekends. Then she

811
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 4: got hooked on Fuller House. She was off of us,

812
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: got hooked on Fuller House. Everything's generational. You're gonna see though,

813
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: you know, lancing with your own kids like you know,

814
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: they like, they love and like everything for six months.

815
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they're honest, I'm new, it is true.

816
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean we're right now, we're on Gabby's dollhouse. Say

817
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: you got one, but we're all all about Gabby. You know,

818
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: two months ago it was all about Frozen. Before that

819
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: it was Mawana.

820
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, yes, oh, don't get me started with Frozen.

821
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 4: I can't listen. My daughter, as the year Frozen came out,

822
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: it was blue dresses everywhere in the streets.

823
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: Told me, I think it's the entire world right now.

824
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 3: We consume things so quickly and then we move on

825
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: and it's happening faster and faster and faster. It's hard

826
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: to actually have some staying power. What's interesting is that

827
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 3: you two do kind of represent some people that managed

828
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: to sort of stay in the zeitgeist, which is a

829
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: very hard thing to do over decades. And I'm not

830
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: certain if it's something that's really going to happen as much,

831
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 3: just because everything is so consumable and thrown.

832
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: Away so quickly.

833
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: Very interesting, though, I think we were maybe part of

834
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: that last generation of entertainers that you know. I mean,

835
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: it was a very finite amount of channels you could

836
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: watch and shows you can watch. So I might look

837
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: at Tral you had to be there. Everyone had to

838
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: watch that show, and you had to look at those

839
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: ten artists, and that was it.

840
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: Now you have all these.

841
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: Platforms for television and film and music, there's so much

842
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: competition out there that it's hard to stand out. And yes,

843
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: it just it keeps on going to the next. Look,

844
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: we're all in a Wicked phase right now. Next week

845
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: we probably won't even be talking about Wicked, and it's

846
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: the biggest movie of all time right now. So it's

847
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: just it's crazy that, you know, it's it's hard to

848
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: stand out, but I think it does. I think we

849
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: were lucky to be in that kind of last generation

850
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: of entertainers that is very familiar with people because kind

851
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: of everyone was forced to watch us like you had to.

852
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: You had to watch us.

853
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: Nostalgia's not going anywhere, Lance, So I'm very interested to

854
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: know what will be the nostalgia for tomorrow. I'm curious,

855
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 4: what do you think it will be?

856
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: Oh?

857
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 2: Who knows?

858
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I have no idea because after the year

859
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: two thousand, it all lived together for me, every decade

860
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: was so specific.

861
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: Then after two thousand, it's like, I don't know where.

862
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: Katie Perry began and Taylor Swift and uh, Sabrina the Carpenter.

863
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: It's just like, I don't all it all blends in

864
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: like I would say, Sabrina Carpenter came out two thousand

865
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: and five.

866
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: I had no idea they lens together. Yeah, Uh, you

867
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 2: know we do.

868
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: I feel like we have uh you know, we're part

869
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: of this family, you know, this kind of like late nineties,

870
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: early two thousands family of entertainers. Uh, you know, and

871
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: every time I run into people like yourself, you know,

872
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: we kind of have this kind of bond, you know,

873
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: and I love that. And one bond that I always

874
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: find is the Dancing with the Stars show.

875
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 2: Crazy.

876
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: It's something that no one will understand how freaking hard

877
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: that was unless you were on that show. And I've

878
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: never had such a family like I. I haven't met

879
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: half the contestants on that show, but if I saw

880
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: them on the streets, I'd be like, give them the

881
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: biggest hug, be like I know, I know, you know God.

882
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: So how is your experience on that show? And do

883
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: you feel the same, did you you feel like are

884
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: you kidding me?

885
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: The you know, Dancing with the Stars? I have a

886
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: chapter on in my book. How can I ignore it?

887
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 4: Be a hypocriticf I ignored it. I lost sixteen pounds

888
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: during that show, and it wasn't a particularly fun period

889
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: in my life because I was going through a lot

890
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: of custody stuff with my daughter, and unfortunately that show

891
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 4: was weaponized against me and in family court. So you know,

892
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 4: that's again something that you would only be able to

893
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 4: empathize with if you understand what family court is. I

894
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 4: don't know anyone. Family cord lands on your butt like

895
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 4: a freaking house on Dorothy's feet in os and you

896
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: just deal with it and you get yourself out of

897
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 4: the hole. So but as the show itself, it's just

898
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 4: I came prepared to dance. I'm like, I'm an athlete,

899
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna figure this out.

900
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dance.

901
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: And the show is about so much more than just dancing.

902
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 4: It's really it's really the greatest reality show that's ever

903
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: been on American TV. And understanding how to film a

904
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 4: good package for that week and then but get your

905
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 4: reps in and get your rest. Also because you're filming,

906
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 4: spending more time filming your package than you are rehearsing,

907
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 4: And that was really frustrating for me because I'm like,

908
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 4: i don't mind being here as many hours as I'm

909
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 4: gonna be, but the audience at home thinks I'm rehearsing

910
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 4: and I'm not. I'm like, when can we rehearse? So

911
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 4: that was really freaking me out behind the scenes because

912
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 4: I'm a big rehearsal and repetition guy.

913
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree.

914
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: That's what I always complained about, was, you know, those

915
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: packages you have to to record, they show up your

916
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: house at six in the morning because that's the only

917
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: time you really have. You're so tired, and they're constantly

918
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: like cooking at you, like wanting you to say something,

919
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, to show some drama or whatever. And then

920
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: there'll be moments I'm so tired of you, like, listen,

921
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: what do you want me to say?

922
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: I'll sell tell me what you want me to say.

923
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: So yah whoa yep.

924
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 4: When I go in, especially the day after interview, after

925
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 4: you you perform and they sit you in the room

926
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 4: with the black cloth and everything, and they're feeding you questions,

927
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 4: but really they're feeding you answers.

928
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: I was just, you know, I just I just felt beaten.

929
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: Down and I'm just like, guys, I don't want to

930
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 4: I don't want to argue with anybody more, just telling

931
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: what you want me to say. And then like literally

932
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 4: the girl behind which just she would say she would

933
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 4: give a question and then she would say, well you

934
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 4: could say something like and then I would just basically

935
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: say everything that after like back to her and we

936
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: do this for over an hour, and I'm like, that

937
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: was I hated the interview portions though after you performed

938
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 4: because they were just so inauthentic. They wanted what they

939
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 4: wanted to cut what they wanted. And you know, I'm

940
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: not bashing the show. I'm just giving the reality of

941
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 4: what we go through. And the show has been in

942
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 4: enough cycles that people need to know that. You know,

943
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: it's say, everything is coming out of our mouths on

944
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 4: that show isn't necessarily what we want to say or

945
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 4: how we're really feeling. But you know, the one thing

946
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 4: I can say is all the dancers are incredible, Like

947
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 4: they are really that good at what they do, and

948
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 4: that's really cool to see.

949
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 2: You I'm close and personal.

950
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so intimidating to be around people that

951
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: are so good. It's like, oh my gosh, I feel inferior,

952
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: like this.

953
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: Is Oh yeah, I mean it was.

954
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 4: I mean, but again, like so I was brought on

955
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: the show when they when they when they when they

956
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: bring you on the show, they bring you on the

957
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: show for a character reason, and they thought that I

958
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 4: would be like there for comic relief. Yeah, and you know, hey,

959
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 4: I always be light and funny whatever, because that's just

960
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 4: you know, who I try to be. But I'm not

961
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 4: Andy Dick. I'm not flopping around all over the floor

962
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: like a fish, you know. I'm I'm pretty coordinated, dude.

963
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 4: I love sports. And so when I wasn't turning out

964
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: to be that character, me like, well, we already have

965
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: our hunks and our guys did with our shirts saw

966
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 4: we need him to be this. They found that a

967
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 4: bit frustrated, and so they took my storyline in certain

968
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 4: places that I didn't necessarily find so comfortable, and I

969
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 4: had to just I was dancing for my survival, and

970
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 4: I remember it. He was like Week one was my

971
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 4: favorite dance and Week five was my second favorite dance.

972
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 4: I did the Cha cha and it was the reason

973
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 4: why Week five was my favorite was because Kim Johnson

974
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 4: and I got to go to New York because I

975
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 4: had to do press patrola blackout, and so we were

976
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 4: alone in New York City and they rented out a

977
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 4: dance hall for us to rehearse, and we were like superstars.

978
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: Wherever we went, all these women who were fans of

979
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: the shows were just like, you know, oh my god.

980
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: You know they had to tape up.

981
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: Our room, our rehearsal room and everything. But it gave

982
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: Kim and I a chance to just get away from

983
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 4: the somewhat manipulative ways of filming that package and just

984
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 4: be in New York rehearsing, having dinners, getting better. And

985
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 4: when we got on that plane, we were like an

986
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: NFL football team showing up to Whoop somebody you know

987
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: on a road game, and that was great, man, it was.

988
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 4: It was my favorite two weeks with Week one to five.

989
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: You know, I have a background in producing reality TV,

990
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: and I actually I had to get out of it

991
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 3: because I did not like being on the other side

992
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 3: of those interviews that you're talking about Jillille. And you know,

993
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: I often thought as a person, especially who has like

994
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 3: background in writing and scripts and those kinds of things,

995
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: I often thought reality TV is the is the idea

996
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: that you're getting that you're that you're documenting real behavior.

997
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: But in reality, what you're trying to do is you're

998
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: trying to stitch together a narrative, you know, utilizing sound

999
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: bites from people.

1000
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: And that's where people don't realize. It's like, you know,

1001
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: scripted and unscripted. Right, script there's a script, you stick

1002
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: to it done. Unscripted is you shoot it and then

1003
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: you write it after. So you take these sellvis and

1004
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: then you write the show after.

1005
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 4: So it's funny you guys bring this up though, because

1006
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: I really feel like legally shows like that should not

1007
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 4: even be allowed to be marketed as reality TV. For

1008
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 4: your mental health, I think people should know this is

1009
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 4: scripted this is unscripted. Now you draw your conclusions based

1010
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 4: on that, but to but to tell younger people, a

1011
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: younger generation of people, oh, this is reality TV. This

1012
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 4: is real you're telling me, you're selling me, this is

1013
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 4: real life. This is authentic. And I think legally that

1014
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: that I would be satisfied enough if that change ever

1015
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: took place, because you're not getting rid of the medium,

1016
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 4: and the medium has a space and it belongs there.

1017
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 4: The Bachelor and all these shows whatever, they're going to

1018
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 4: be there, and people love them. That's fine, but you

1019
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 4: have to remind people. It's almost kind of like you know,

1020
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: when you buy a pack of cigarettes. Uh, this is

1021
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 4: what happens, though. We just got to remind you enjoy

1022
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 4: yourself with the Surgeon General says.

1023
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: And you know, the repercussions for the people starring in it,

1024
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: and especially people that weren't entertainers that get into unscripted

1025
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: that you know, they don't know what they're getting into,

1026
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, these storylines are created

1027
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: around them about something they might have said here but

1028
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: they didn't really mean that. But they know that they're

1029
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: going to get to that six episodes in and then

1030
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: they'll be you know everything we rectified, but that person

1031
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: has to really live in the real world and have

1032
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: to deal with people coming up to them thinking a

1033
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: certain way about them that wasn't even true. I mean

1034
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: it really affects their real life.

1035
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard. Three would you ever do reality? I

1036
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: don't think I would ever do reality. Well, here's here's

1037
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: the one exception.

1038
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: Maybe my partner and I would do like Amazing Race

1039
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 3: or something like that, just so that we could travel

1040
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 3: all around the world.

1041
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: And do that sort of thing.

1042
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 3: But but I think I, well, I know that I

1043
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 3: would know going in that you know what, they're gonna

1044
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: stitch this together. There a million different ways. I get

1045
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 3: a free trip, I get an experience that I'll never

1046
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 3: ever have again. They get their show, and I need

1047
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 3: to be able to just live with that. I think

1048
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 3: that's about it.

1049
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: I think Amazing Race is pretty much the only show

1050
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: that I think would be fun to do, you know,

1051
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: just go and travel around. I love My Big Brothers,

1052
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: my favorite show of all time. I would never do

1053
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: that show.

1054
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: That it's your favorite show.

1055
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: That's why I know twenty four to seven, you are

1056
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: on camera and you're gonna say some dump that is

1057
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: gonna get you in trouble, you know, in order to

1058
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: get and taken our car, there's no way. So I

1059
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: feel like something like Amazing Race. There's so much going

1060
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: on that, you know, they couldn't really manipulate you that much,

1061
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: and it would just be fun to do. Jalil, is

1062
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: there a game show that you would like to do?

1063
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: Like any kind of game show from Will Fortune to

1064
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: Amazing Race? What's your show?

1065
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: Oh?

1066
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: Wow?

1067
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 4: I mean I crushed Family fewd So I took my

1068
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 4: family on Family Few and I got the highest score

1069
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 4: ever on Family Few with one hundred and ninety one

1070
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 4: in the bonus round. So my my aunt all she

1071
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 4: needed was nine points to win and joint.

1072
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

1073
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait you got one ninety one

1074
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: in fast money. Yeah, I got one. Let's compare that

1075
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: to my experience. I got all the number one answers.

1076
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: So I go on Family Few with my family, which

1077
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: we think we're really good practice. We're going against Kelly Pickler.

1078
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, we got this, Jalil, zero points, the whole

1079
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: entire zero z. It was the most embarrassing and the

1080
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: answers were so stupid. I'm like, that doesn't even make sense.

1081
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: I answered the better you had a chance to win it.

1082
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: It was crazy, but yeah, Zra, I.

1083
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: Mean you guys did have you definitely had a couple

1084
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: that were like, well that that is really a wild,

1085
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 3: wild way to answer that question.

1086
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: There was a few.

1087
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: There was a few that I was like, what happened there?

1088
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 4: I get that on flip side sometimes, to trust me,

1089
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: I get some real head scratches, And as the host.

1090
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 2: I got to be like, all right, better nuts next time,

1091
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: I just can you can you tell us? Can you

1092
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about flip side? Because I

1093
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: love game shows.

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00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 4: So flip side we asked one question to one group

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00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 4: of people, let's say flight attendants, and then we asked

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00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 4: the flip side of that question to the opposite group

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00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 4: of people, and that would be like passengers. And it's

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00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: always gonna be some type of tenilating and provocating question,

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00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 4: you know, like what's the most annoying thing that that

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00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 4: flight attendants do before the plane takes off? You know,

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00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 4: make you put your seat up, make you buckle up,

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00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 4: or you know, make you put things in front of

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00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 4: your chair, in front of your seat in front of you.

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00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 4: Which which one do you think is the top answer

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00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 4: that people pulled and uh, and then after that we

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00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 4: have a dish or that round.

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00:53:59,480 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: That's my face.

1108
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 4: That's as easy as just our Cheetos and Doritos and

1109
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 4: Chick fil A or Popeye's. And whoever moves on from

1110
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 4: that round goes onto our bonus round. Just totally easy.

1111
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 4: One question, ten possible answers. Got to pick the top five.

1112
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 4: Before you get three strikes, we give you ten thousand dollars.

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00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: Clipside. That would be fun. I love that. See those

1114
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: are the games I enjoy. And speaking of this of that,

1115
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: let's play a little this or that with you right now?

1116
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: What's up? They hit me? Let's throw something at you?

1117
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: Basketball or football? Oh? Basketball? To play football? To watch okay? Good?

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00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 2: Stand up comedy or sitcoms. Oh, stay up comedy okay.

1119
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: Voice acting or on screen acting on screen acting okay.

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00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: Nineties fashion or modern trends ninety fashion okay.

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00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 2: Holidays at home or travel abroad boom, holidays at home okay.

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00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: Playing a hero or a villain a villain, yeah, Reading

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00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: books or listening to audiobooks.

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00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: Listening to audio books okay. Attending live sports or watching

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00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: at home? Mm hmmm, how good are my seats? Yeah?

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00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 2: You got a box at so fun attending. Do you

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00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: get to go to a lot of games here in

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00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: Los Angeles?

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00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 4: I go to a lot of games. I go to

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00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 4: a lot of Chargers games in particular.

1131
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do the Chargers games too.

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00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 3: I was with.

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00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people, just a couple of weekends ago.

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00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always like a lot of fun group they

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00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, they always put a bunch of people together,

1137
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's always like nineties people together

1138
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: because I had some of your co stars and tailing

1139
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: matters and they're like, but it was fun.

1140
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 4: Well you didn't see me because my seats were better.

1141
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1142
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 4: Hosting a game show or in a drama boom. I

1143
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 4: mean we talked about mount of times hosted again show.

1144
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: Okay, and then the last one classic cars are modern vehicles?

1145
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: Classic cars? All right? Sweet? Okay, see you are good

1146
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: at this, this or that in it i'd I score.

1147
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: That's literally, that's get that's the third round for flip side.

1148
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: Just lifted it from my show. Great, we could have

1149
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: invented the show, Drew, Yeah, you could have done it.

1150
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 2: The only difference is we put you on a clock

1151
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: for thirty seconds. That's my problem.

1152
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: I don't like any shows where there's a ticking clock.

1153
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 1: I go crazy, like I'm not thinking of anything except

1154
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: the ticking clock. I did h when Watch You Are

1155
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: My God?

1156
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: Who is it? Who wants to be a millionaire?

1157
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: Came in and they did like the first one where

1158
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: they had like different celebrities come in and do a

1159
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 1: whole week of that, and they had the fastest fingers,

1160
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: which they don't even do anymore. I couldn't even get

1161
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: past the fastest fingers because I just that the clicking. No, no,

1162
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm just freaking out.

1163
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 4: I can't.

1164
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: I need time to think. I need some time.

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00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 4: Let you cool, dude, you know what I'm saying. Cool

1166
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 4: do to wear shades on podcasts?

1167
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: You know they can't be rushed. Yeah, thank you. Let's

1168
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: play a little game before we have to say goodbye.

1169
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: So I got I got a game. It's called the

1170
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: Mash Game, not the match game. And you two are

1171
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: gonna be contestants again like Mash where you do like

1172
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: mansion Apartment shot. I'll let you know. I'll let you know.

1173
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: Give you a clue that combines two ideas, one from

1174
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 3: pulp culture and one from everyday life into a single phrase.

1175
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: Your job is to figure out the mashup. For example,

1176
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: if I said a boxing champion and an ice cream

1177
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 3: flavor perfect for travel, the answer would be.

1178
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 2: Rocky Road. True God, Okay, this is gonna be hard.

1179
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: All right, let's see how shop sharp your pop culture

1180
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: brains are. Here we go. Let's see this one. Here's

1181
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: a good one.

1182
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 3: A web slinging superhero hero and a cozy spot.

1183
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: For a bear or Batman, spider cave, spider.

1184
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: Cave and a coach spot for bears. Go ca, Well,

1185
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: what's the what's the spider Man cave? There you go,

1186
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 3: spider Man cave Man cave.

1187
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 4: Spider Man ca goy it man? K Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,

1188
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 4: all right.

1189
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: Here's one.

1190
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: Here's one Julil, a fast food burger and a late

1191
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 3: wrapper known for his self care.

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00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I need to be high to answer

1193
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 4: this stuff.

1194
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: Guys, this is.

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00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 4: No a fast food burger, fast food burger, whopper double doube. Well,

1196
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 4: what are we talking about?

1197
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: Big Mac?

1198
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: Oh?

1199
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: And then a rapper known for his hit self care.

1200
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 4: Oh man, Mac, it's Mac something, Big Mac Miller, Matt Miller.

1201
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a tough one like you should

1202
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: have gotten that, you should have jumped in on him

1203
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: from the music bass.

1204
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 3: Come on last, All right, here's another one. Here's another one.

1205
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 3: A rocket man and an unidentified male. Oh Stranger, Elton Stranger,

1206
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 3: Elton Elton, rocket Man. Okay, Oh Elton do John John

1207
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: Doe Elton, John Doe. There you John Doe, Elton, John

1208
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 3: Doe Elton, John Doe.

1209
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: Okay, come on now, A.

1210
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: Controversial rapper and a Broadway musical about rival gangs.

1211
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 4: Well, then, first of all, that's that's west Side story.

1212
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 3: Aye, west Side story. So that's the answer. That is

1213
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 3: Kanye West, Kanye West. I didn't even get the West part.

1214
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: Wow. You know these games never go well, they never

1215
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 2: know Well, I'm telling.

1216
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 4: You, Drew, it's it's it's really hard to come up

1217
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 4: with games that just click and and everybody can catch all.

1218
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 4: We have to stop our game to explain things, and

1219
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, like they'll start asking me questions

1220
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 4: certain contests.

1221
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: Like oh, legal and illegal.

1222
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 4: Legal guys come out and have to start talking these contestants.

1223
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: It's not easy. You know.

1224
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: That's really interesting, you say. I. I've been on a

1225
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 3: couple of game shows and the amount of stopping. You know,

1226
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 3: you think that these shows just flow and that it's

1227
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 3: just gameplay. No contestants will sit there, stop the game,

1228
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 3: make make mistakes.

1229
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: And you're right.

1230
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 3: There's all these standards and practices regards to game shows

1231
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: that you.

1232
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 4: Cannot Oh man, as a host, I'll get tricked and

1233
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 4: we'll start. I'll start, you know, getting along with some

1234
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 4: some contestants. We're having a little chet and I realize, oh,

1235
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 4: they're walking me into legal deep waters with their questions.

1236
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: And then they'll be like, please step away. We're gonna

1237
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: send it legal.

1238
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: When it's about money, there's some major rules. Do you

1239
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: want me to just give us one more?

1240
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: Okay? Come on, cause that Kanye Westwood made me mad.

1241
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: We should have got that.

1242
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 3: You should be able to get this. An NBA legend

1243
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 3: and a director known forget out.

1244
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay. So it's like, oh, Michael Jordan Jordan Pill,

1245
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan Peel got that together. I like that ending

1246
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: for sure.

1247
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 4: It's the mashup.

1248
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: I like that awesome. Well, well, jlil, it was so

1249
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: great to catch up with you, my man.

1250
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: Please tell everyone how they can stay in touch with you,

1251
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: how they can watch the shows, how they can get

1252
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: your book give us the rundown.

1253
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 4: Yes, Growing Up Eurkle is available on all book buying

1254
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 4: platforms Amazon, Barnes, and Noble. Just and go to my Instagram.

1255
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 4: Actually a white click on the link. It's right there.

1256
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: I do the audio.

1257
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 4: So a lot of you.

1258
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: I know you don't want to be bothered reading all

1259
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: those pages. I'll read them to you.

1260
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 4: Thank you to anybody who has purchased my book. It

1261
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 4: means a lot to me, each and every person. I

1262
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 4: just see you different. It's a different accomplishment in the

1263
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 4: literary world. And check out scaling them through on Disney

1264
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 4: Plus and have a happy holidays.

1265
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you. So you're amazing. You're a

1266
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: great person. You're an amazing father. And hey, yeah, wait

1267
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: to talk to you again. We'll get together next year.

1268
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: We'll have to have it back on the show.

1269
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, have the best Christmas with your

1270
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: family and give them money.

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01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 4: I'm run to you six times a year, and the

1272
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 4: more I run into you than the more I know

1273
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 4: my career is popping.

1274
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: All right, Jela, thank you so much. Man. We'll talk

1275
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 2: to you later. Hi you doc Hi.

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01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: That's all the show we have for you today. Thanks

1277
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: so much for listening out there. Everyone, have a great holiday,

1278
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Happy Kwanza uh hankkah now is I think

1279
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: the twenty six this year, so it's right after Christmas

1280
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: and happy New Year all that good stuff. Be good

1281
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: to each other, don't drink and drive, take care of

1282
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: those animals, and yeah, until next.

1283
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: Time, Save Frosted.

1284
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening.

1285
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: Follow us on Instagram at Frosted Tips.

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01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: With Lance and Michael Turzinari and at lance Beast for

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01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: all your pop culture needs

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01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 3: And make sure to write u review and leave us

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