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Speaker 1: serious about learning to speak Spanish. For me, that would

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Speaker 1: be a way of breaking the matrix. Can you imagine,

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Speaker 1: Like I just got back from Puerto Rico. Could you

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Speaker 1: imagine if out of nowhere I was and all of

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Speaker 1: my you know, my friends know I don't speak Spanish.

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Speaker 1: If I just started fluently speaking Spanish well to the

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Speaker 1: waitress or you know, the waiter or you know, the

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Speaker 1: person that was helping us at the hotel, like that

446
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Speaker 1: would absolutely be a matrix breaking moment. I would destroy

447
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Speaker 1: the person other people thought I was in a given

448
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Speaker 1: moment if I could fluently speak Spanish. So I think,

449
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Speaker 1: like really taking a real look at the time you

450
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Speaker 1: spend the free time we have because we all have

451
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Speaker 1: free time like it exists.

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Speaker 4: You know, we can say we're busy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're you know, we can find and we

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Speaker 1: can make time for the things we actually care about.

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Speaker 1: I think if you actually analyze the time that you

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Speaker 1: have outside of the time that you're obligated, whether it's

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Speaker 1: work or family, whatever that is, and you say, how

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Speaker 1: am I spending this time? And like let's get super

459
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Speaker 1: into it. You know a lot of people listening right

460
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Speaker 1: now know like the back of their hand, every single

461
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: new Netflix, Hulu, HBO Max series. You know, like you've

462
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Speaker 1: seen this. You know, you've watched Sex in the City

463
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Speaker 1: three times, and you've saw the remake of the movie,

464
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Speaker 1: like you've just like you you've you've spent so much

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Speaker 1: time on consuming Yeah, so like take a look at

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Speaker 1: that time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I mean that's really great advice.

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Speaker 2: I think the concept of being honest with yourself about

469
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Speaker 2: how much quote unquote free time you actually have or

470
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Speaker 2: how much leisure time you have, And even if you

471
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Speaker 2: are a parent, like what could you be doing maybe

472
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Speaker 2: differently with your children that you aren't already doing and

473
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Speaker 2: how could you reframe the way that you guys spend

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Speaker 2: your afternoons together. There's a lot of opportunity in that.

475
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Speaker 2: And I also love the concept of perhaps even taking

476
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Speaker 2: a different route to work. I think that that is

477
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Speaker 2: an analogy for something bigger. Right, It's like it's not

478
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Speaker 2: actually just about like driving your car in a different

479
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 2: direction to get to from point A to point B,

480
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Speaker 2: but it's like this is literally an opportunity, Like you

481
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Speaker 2: have these twenty minutes, Like what can you do differently

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Speaker 2: with these twenty minutes? And that brings about another really

483
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Speaker 2: important point, which is the idea of snackable changes. So

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Speaker 2: you can do something quite small that can have a

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Speaker 2: profound difference. I'll say that again, you can do something

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Speaker 2: quite small that can have a profound difference not just

487
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Speaker 2: on your mood, but also just on your overall betterment. Right, So,

488
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Speaker 2: whether that is integrating a five to ten minute exercise

489
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Speaker 2: block into your day when you're someone who says, oh

490
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Speaker 2: I don't have time to work out, just five to

491
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Speaker 2: ten minutes, you have five to ten minutes, Or if

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Speaker 2: it's someone that's saying I don't have time to meditate

493
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Speaker 2: or I'm not good at medica, it's the small changes.

494
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Speaker 2: It's the separating fact from fiction. And I think when

495
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Speaker 2: you stop leaving your own bullshit or admit what is

496
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Speaker 2: actually going on in your life as it stands right now,

497
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Speaker 2: that is the first step to making positive change long term.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're like sitting in this room holding these microphones. Yeah,

500
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Speaker 1: and like we're you know, playing these characters right now.

501
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Speaker 1: We're talking to each other on this podcast, and I'm

502
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Speaker 1: just like, if we could just like step outside of

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Speaker 1: ourselves for a quick second, you know, like when you're

504
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 1: feeling stagnant in that it's so easy for us to

505
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Speaker 1: sit here and be like, you know what, like do

506
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Speaker 1: twelve fucking push ups when you have a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: You know, Nick, I haven't marked an episode explicit in

509
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Speaker 2: a long time, but I'm actually excited.

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Speaker 4: I don't think i've is that the first curse?

511
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Speaker 2: I would say that, no, it's not the first curse,

512
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Speaker 2: but it's been a minute and I'm actually like it

513
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Speaker 2: kind of warms my heart because your f bombs come

514
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Speaker 2: loaded with passion.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even catch the first one.

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Speaker 1: It's easy for us to say here like oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: like when I have five and it's like, let me

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Speaker 1: do a couple of push ups, like let me let

519
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Speaker 1: me do some jumping jacks. It's hard when we're in

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Speaker 1: the day to day of like the same routine in

521
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Speaker 1: our kitchen to be like let me, let me dance

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Speaker 1: with my partner.

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Speaker 4: Like it's it's insanely hard.

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Speaker 1: And I and I have again, like I have a

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Speaker 1: lot of empathy and understanding why that's so difficult. Like

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Speaker 1: when you pick up the kids every day from school

527
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Speaker 1: and you come home and you you know, you pick

528
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Speaker 1: up food or you make dinner, you know, you go

529
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Speaker 1: through the routine of life and you're you're getting burnt out.

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Speaker 1: I understand why it's hard to say, like I'm going

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Speaker 1: to dance with my partner. That's where we need to

532
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Speaker 1: like step outside of the characters we're playing, like hold

533
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Speaker 1: a mirror up to ourselves, and like, if we're not

534
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Speaker 1: happy with the person that we are, we have to

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Speaker 1: change it. And then there's going to be people in

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Speaker 1: that process that aren't going to accept the version of

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Speaker 1: you that you're trying to create. And that's going to

538
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: be okay because people don't like change, and that's totally acceptable.

539
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Speaker 1: But you have to realize you need to do things

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Speaker 1: that are going to make you happy, And I think

541
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Speaker 1: burnout comes when you don't recognize that the monotony of

542
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: everyday life is slowly killing you on the inside. And

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Speaker 1: by recognizing that that's what's happening, I think you can

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Speaker 1: combat burnout much more effectively. And by the way, we

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Speaker 1: talked about a very physical version of my burnout, not

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Speaker 1: like necessarily a mental emotional but I think for a

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Speaker 1: lot of people it's actually the mental and emotional burnout

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Speaker 1: that they go through, not so much the physical.

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Speaker 2: mental and emotional tipping point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, actually one more thing with kids,

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Speaker 1: and I don't have kids, so I could I can't

581
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Speaker 1: really really speak on this, but I aspire to someday

582
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Speaker 1: be a father and have children, and I actually look

583
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Speaker 1: at the kids as a bit of a really cool

584
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Speaker 1: excuse to learn new things. So I'm like I haven't learned.

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00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm a terrible but great dancer, meaning like unbridled confidence

586
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Speaker 1: when I get on a dance floor, which makes it

587
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Speaker 1: fun and entertaining, but I you know, I have two

588
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Speaker 1: left feet. I love look at like the having kids

589
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Speaker 1: moment is like like, that's the moment I'm going to

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Speaker 1: learn how to salsa, or that's the moment I'm going

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Speaker 1: to learn how to ballroom dance, Like I am going

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Speaker 1: to go to classes with my children, and you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's the time I do learn how to scuba dive.

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Speaker 1: And again, like I don't have children, I can't speak

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Speaker 1: on this, but like I actually look at that as

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Speaker 1: like a fun time to reinvigorate some of the curiosity

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Speaker 1: that I had that maybe got confined because of like

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Speaker 1: the responsibilities of adulthood when we're all kind of running

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Speaker 1: really hard and trying to build something and you know,

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Speaker 1: create a foundation for our future selves. I actually look

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Speaker 1: at the moment when children do enter the picture as

602
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Speaker 1: like a moment to go back and explore some of

603
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Speaker 1: that creativity that I may be left on the table.

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Speaker 1: Mental and emotional burnout. Quick transition. So this one's This

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Speaker 1: one's difficult because I feel like the mental the mental

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Speaker 1: burnout you can often attribute for me at least to

607
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: maybe like the intensity of tasks or things that you're

608
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Speaker 1: you're working on, the volume, the complexity of them. The

609
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: emotional stuff for me, and I'm just going to speak

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Speaker 1: to my experiences comes when things are outside of my control.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's like.

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Speaker 1: The there's some you know, somebody sick in the family,

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Speaker 1: or my partner and I aren't on the same page,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like I think that's when the emotional toll

615
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: kicks in, and you know, I think in those moments

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Speaker 1: it's it's just like you have to have unwavering kindness

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00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: again for yourself. We're also turned up in this idea

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Speaker 1: of like thirty sixty ninety days and we just completely

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Speaker 1: outweigh what we can accomplish in thirty sixty or ninety days.

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Speaker 1: But I'm really looking at it is like what's happening

621
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Speaker 1: in three, six and nine years. And when you start

622
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Speaker 1: to think about it like that, you recognize that some

623
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Speaker 1: of the things that emotionally just might be like gutting

624
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: you on the inside, we'll feel a lot better or

625
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: you'll have resolved in three years, six years or nine years.

626
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Speaker 1: So I think that's one of the ways. It's just

627
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Speaker 1: a bit of a perspective shift on just like time

628
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Speaker 1: and the passing of it on the emotional side, and

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Speaker 1: then I think on the mental side, Yeah, sleep is profound.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sleep is just Is that not like one of

631
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Speaker 2: the biggest lessons you learn when you get into your thirties?

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Speaker 4: Crazy now, Like I almost like I'm just like.

633
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Speaker 2: Wow, Like I do feel very fortunate that I too

634
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Speaker 2: can say that I very rarely set alarms. I'm naturally

635
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Speaker 2: like an early riser, Like, as long as I am

636
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Speaker 2: feeling great, I'm pretty much without a doubt up by

637
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Speaker 2: like six fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Six thirty at the latest.

639
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Speaker 2: But I do recognize that not everybody has that luxury

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Speaker 2: sleep amazing, but you can also prioritize it on the

641
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Speaker 2: back end. Right, what was the phrase you used with

642
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Speaker 2: me when I told you what time I needed to

643
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Speaker 2: be out of my apartment today?

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Speaker 3: I love a backboard.

645
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, backboards are great, So.

646
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Speaker 3: I'll backboard my day. I'll backboard my sleep.

647
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Speaker 2: Like I know that I'm going to get up at

648
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Speaker 2: six fifteen in the morning, so that means I know

649
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: I want to be sleeping I mean my goldilocks evening,

650
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Speaker 2: I am in my bed at nine oh five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nice.

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Speaker 3: It's nice.

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Speaker 4: That's nice.

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Speaker 3: It's super nice.

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Speaker 1: I mean and again like it's nice, like life sometimes

656
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Speaker 1: punches you in the face and you might not be

657
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Speaker 1: able to do that.

658
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Speaker 3: Right. We're bringing this full circle right now.

659
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: So then the thing that happens in that moment, in

660
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: the days where I'm not in my bed at nine

661
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: oh five, say, I did entertain the fact that I

662
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: could have the opportunity to have some semblance of a

663
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: social life. I'm out later, I've had a couple of

664
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: glasses of wine. I love what you said earlier about

665
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: waking up the next day and not being mad at yourself,

666
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: just saying this is how it is now.

667
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: This is what balance now looks for me today.

668
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: This is what I'm going to do to move forward

669
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: with this instead of being like, oh, I shouldn't have

670
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: done that, because that doesn't serve you.

671
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 3: It doesn't serve you at all.

672
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: I have to give kudos to my partner erin. She

673
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: does so much work in and outer all the time,

674
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: and I learned so much from her. I recognized early

675
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: in our relationship that I was wired a bit different

676
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: because just like life would happen and I would go

677
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: to sleep, and I would wake up the next day

678
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: and it would be like it was my birthday. Every

679
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: single day I spring out of bed, I'm super fucking happy,

680
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: go lucky, and everything's good in the world, even if

681
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: the night before things were bad. And I realized that

682
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: everybody's not wired that way. And through the course of

683
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: Aaron's kind of inner and outer works, she often like

684
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: just gives me these like nuggets that help me articulate

685
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: it for other people outside of just my you know,

686
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: like predisposed, you know, like God given approach and perspective.

687
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 4: And she said recently, she said that.

688
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: The the reality of our situation, you know, sometimes we'd

689
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: wish for things to be different. Oh I wish I

690
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: didn't eat that pizza last night. Oh I wish I

691
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: didn't have that tequila rock set three o'clock in the morning.

692
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh I wish that this meeting was happening thirty minutes later.

693
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: But like it's fucking not. It's our reality that we

694
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: ate the pizza or had the tequila or meetings happening

695
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: in twelve minutes from now, and we're just getting out

696
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: of bed sometimes and.

697
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 4: Like that's the reality of our situation.

698
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: You know. She by the way, like Aaron would just

699
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: beat me up right now if I explain it this way,

700
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: because she has a much more delicate and thoughtful approach

701
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: how she articulates the stuff. But this is now I've

702
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: extracted her message from this, like stop wishing for things

703
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: to be different and recognize that your reality is your

704
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: reality in that moment, and that's it's up to you

705
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: in terms of like how you want to react and respond,

706
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: because I know because I have too, have done it,

707
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: that we can spiral totally. We can spiral into this

708
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: like because I didn't wake up on time and I

709
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: didn't get this in me that this is going to

710
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: go wrong, and this cab passed me by on the

711
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: street and now it's rating.

712
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, these things don't.

713
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: All of it, no, And I hear that, and I

714
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: when I feel overwhelmed and that I'm approaching burnout, this

715
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: thought process is exactly where I lean in. I think

716
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: to myself, what is within my power to do right

717
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: now to help combat exactly how I am feeling. And

718
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: some days that means looking at the to do list

719
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: you made four hours earlier and saying, Nope, this isn't

720
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: where I'm at today. What is actually within my power?

721
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: What can I do right now to break the matrix?

722
00:36:54,239 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 2: And the answer often most always initiates by removing myself.

723
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 3: Temporarily from that environment.

724
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: So you and I right now sitting in the AG studio,

725
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 2: I would get up, I would at least go downstairs and.

726
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: Take one lap around the block.

727
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 4: Nice.

728
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it has to be a thirty

729
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: sixty ninety two hour commitment, but just that brief shift

730
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: of environment can make a world of difference and help

731
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 2: me shift my perspective that when I come back in here,

732
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: I'm more ready and able to meet myself with where

733
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: I'm at. Because I don't shift that environment, then I

734
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: have a hard time just flipping the switch, finding the

735
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: gratitude and moving forward. It's like the environment shift really

736
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: really plays a key part for me.

737
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: Here's another one I want to add on to that,

738
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: because I think that's really great when we're often in

739
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: a downward spiral like that, is this. I think this

740
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: is actually a really nice way to like help this

741
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 1: kind of come full circle as well. You're feeling crummy,

742
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: you're burnt out, things, aren't going your way and now

743
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden.

744
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 4: Like how you get out of it?

745
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: You know, like how do you combat that feeling? And

746
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: I think we often think, like what are the things

747
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: that we can do for ourselves? Oh, I'm gonna go

748
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: melt on a beach for seven days, or I'll go

749
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: take a walk around my apartment, or you know, I'll

750
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: treat myself to a dinner, I'll throw out my to

751
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: do list. One of the things that's like really hit

752
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: me as of late is doing something nice for someone else.

753
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: I love that.

754
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: It's just like because it fills up whatever reservoir you

755
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: have that was depleted so much faster when you do

756
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: something nice for somebody else who might be in a

757
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: tough spot or struggling. And like again, it can be

758
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: like as simple as like being pleasant to your uber

759
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: driver or or just you know, giving that person a

760
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: call that you might know who's going through a difficult

761
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: time and listening without very important, without expressing your woes

762
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: about your life.

763
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 3: Or offering advice, correct, just listening.

764
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 4: Correct.

765
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: We love that.

766
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, like, you know, if you're feeling

767
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: burnt out and stressed and tired, all of a sudden,

768
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: you're the if you can find it in yourself, because

769
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: I know it's hard, and I know again like this

770
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: is advice from a guy sitting in a chair who's

771
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: like not currently in that mood. So I have a

772
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: lot of empathy and respect for people that are currently

773
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: burnt out and tired and don't have the emotional capacity

774
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: to give to somebody else. But if you can find

775
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: it in yourself to call somebody, be there for somebody,

776
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: even you know, like tip a little bit extra sometimes

777
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: like that, you know, like go get a haircut for you,

778
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: but be super chatty and you know, happy, and try

779
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: try to turn it around for the other person who's engaging,

780
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: Like if you can find it yourself. For me personally,

781
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: I've found that that fills my cup up a lot

782
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: faster than me doing something for myself.

783
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.

784
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: I've also been a sucker for I don't know if

785
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: you've heard of this app, but this is not sponsored

786
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: at all.

787
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 3: It's called Goodie.

788
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: Might need to be I know Goodie the founders from Miami,

789
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: please tell, please tell the audience what it is.

790
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: Goodie is a gifting app. It has a lot of

791
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: like super trendy stuff on there. You can send a

792
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: gift via text message to anyone and you don't need

793
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: to know their home address or even their email. So

794
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: it makes it super accessible to just send someone a

795
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 2: little something. And I have been using goodie like as

796
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: one of my go to ways to send someone something small, surprising, delight,

797
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: just to be like, I'm thinking about you. They can

798
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: switch it out to what's that mean?

799
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 4: Meaning like send you?

800
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: You send somebody a bag and it cost sixty seven dollars.

801
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: You have the option to swap it out for something

802
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: else that's in that price range, and it wouldn't charge

803
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: you any more for it.

804
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a cool one.

805
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: And I you know, I think by the way technology

806
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: we all demonize it, like, I think, like that's a

807
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: really great exact ample of a way we can integrate

808
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: technology to actually like bring a little bit of joy

809
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: efficiency to our lives without further depleting our reservoir.

810
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: We love it. We love it. These are so many

811
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 3: good tips.

812
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: Before I let you go cool, before I put away

813
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: my microphones, pack them in the bag and get going.

814
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: I do want to talk to you about that to

815
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: do list that we talked about at the top of

816
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: this Specifically, if you have any strategies or thoughts on

817
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: perhaps how to tackle.

818
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: It in a way that makes you feel confident.

819
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: Do you have any best practices that you implement regularly

820
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: to make that to do lists more manageable?

821
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: It's a great question.

822
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm working on it, and I have a lot of

823
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: people that I'm like hiring to help work on it

824
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: as well. You know, I have an app called Clear

825
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: that I use that's like a bit of like a

826
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: two do list tracker.

827
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: Okay, called Clear? Is it called Clear? Let's find out?

828
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: Is called Yeah, it's called Clear. So I use that

829
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: as a bit of like a to do list maker.

830
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: And then I so, actually, this is fun. The way

831
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: my brain works, like probably most people, is through list making.

832
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: And I like to categorize my to do lists in

833
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: different things, and I like to categorize people in different ways.

834
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: And because the ability to recall things, especially when we're

835
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: inundated with information and we're constantly consumed by all the

836
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: things we're doing, it's really difficult. It's really difficult to say,

837
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: like what type of wine does Emily like to drink?

838
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 1: Or like, ooh, we were just together and that person

839
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: got a new dog, What the hell is their dog's name,

840
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: Like it's really hard to do that, And I actually

841
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: want to use technology in a way that helps me

842
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: better track and communicate those things so that I can

843
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: be more present and more effectible. I can go deeper

844
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: with people, like I want to use technology in that way.

845
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: In terms of like tackling to do lists, I think

846
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: that there's going to be things on your list day

847
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: to day that are like really pressing and hot, and

848
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: there are going to be things on your list that

849
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: you can back burner and they can happen.

850
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: Two three days, two three weeks later.

851
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: I think, for me, the most important thing about my

852
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: to do list in any capacity, and I'm just going

853
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: to it's going to be very simple, is that I'm

854
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: not too harsh of a judge when the things on

855
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: my to do list don't get done because my intent

856
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: was always in the right place. I tried really hard

857
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: today to squeeze this in. If I couldn't have made

858
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: it today, I feel like you would have known that

859
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: I wanted to be here, And I think like that's

860
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: important for me is that I use my technology to

861
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: communicate to people where I am mentally, emotionally, physically, and

862
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: my to do list is not the judge and jury

863
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: of the effectiveness of my day. I am the judge

864
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: and jury of the effectiveness.

865
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: Of my day. This is now a therapy session. You

866
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: can re listen to it wherever you get your podcasts,

867
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: whenever you would like. That's probably took a lot of

868
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: personal work to get to that point.

869
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: It took a lot of like, oh fuck, I didn't

870
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: finish right to do list, you know. Like what's funny

871
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: about turning thirty is like, oh shit, we know some shit.

872
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 4: Now we've been through a little bit of life.

873
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: Like it's starting to get interesting because there's a little

874
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: bit of pattern recognition, Like for anybody who's twenty four,

875
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: actually younger twenty one through twenty seven, Like you're.

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Speaker 4: Just starting to figure it the fuck out, you know.

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Speaker 1: So like by the time you get thirty, you start

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Speaker 1: to really understand some shit. And I can tell you

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Speaker 1: one thing, like life goes on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, life goes on if you don't finish everything on

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Speaker 2: your to do list. I think that is probably one

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Speaker 2: of the biggest takeaways from the past two years for me,

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Speaker 2: is like having that grace with myself knowing that what's

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Speaker 2: really important I will prioritize and it will all get

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Speaker 2: done with time, And I mean on the note of

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Speaker 2: overall and now, the same rings true, right is having

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Speaker 2: that grace with yourself and knowing that when you are

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Speaker 2: really going through the thick of it, you've got to

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Speaker 2: break the matrix.

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Speaker 4: Break the matrix everyone.

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Speaker 2: Nick Diodado, so grateful for you. Thank you for making

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Speaker 2: the time on your to do list to come through here.

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Speaker 4: I'm honored.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having it and be here with me.

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Speaker 3: How do the hurdlers follow along with your fun life?

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Speaker 3: How do they keep up with you? Give me all

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Speaker 3: the details, so some.

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Speaker 1: Fun things, And I'm actually really excited this. I know

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Speaker 1: you have a predominantly female audience. I do, and we're

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Speaker 1: looking to hire a lot of people. And I think

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Speaker 1: that there's what I do predominantly like in a relationship capacity,

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Speaker 1: Like I need a real female counterpart, Like I need

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Speaker 1: somebody who loves talking to people, who loves like going

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Speaker 1: deep with people, who loves understanding, who's incredibly emotionally intelligent

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Speaker 1: and he understands what makes people tick. And I'm like

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Speaker 1: really looking for that person to help me on all

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Speaker 1: things gary and relationships. And I just know your audience

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Speaker 1: is emotionally intelligent, thoughtful, driven, motivated, ambitious, And I'm just

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Speaker 1: like really looking for that person too, who can like

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Speaker 1: join me and really help build deep, meaningful relationships that

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Speaker 1: we can leverage where I'm in. I'm in the people business,

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Speaker 1: and nothing would bring me more joy than finding a hurdler.

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Speaker 4: To join my team.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's already speaking to the people. I feel like

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Speaker 3: she's listening.

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Speaker 4: I hope so at Nick Dio on Instagram and ic

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Speaker 4: k D.

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Speaker 2: I all right, I'm over at Emily a Body at

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Speaker 2: Hurdle Podcast. Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.