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Speaker 1: We're presented by wind Beat. Betty is a team sport

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Speaker 1: put together at win bet. NFL Vice President of Broadcast Planning,

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Speaker 1: Mike North, what was your weekend like after you finally

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Speaker 1: put this thing to bet Oh, was a little relaxing,

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Speaker 1: but also still a little tense when this schedule comes out.

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Speaker 1: Teams got their schedules on Wednesday. The networks got their

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Speaker 1: schedules on Thursday, but they only got their own. So

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Speaker 1: the initial reaction was, you know, in a vacuum in

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Speaker 1: a vertical, this is what I got. Okay, I get it,

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Speaker 1: I see, thank you, goodbye. But now seventy two hours later,

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Speaker 1: everybody's had a chance to see what everybody else got,

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Speaker 1: and in some ways it might make you feel a

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Speaker 1: little bit better about what you got. In other ways

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Speaker 1: it might make you feel a little worse. So still

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Speaker 1: a couple of texts and emails, nothing to um, you know,

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Speaker 1: ornery or or disastrous um, but definitely still some questions.

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Speaker 1: And I think as everybody gets into it a little

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Speaker 1: bit more over the next couple of week days and weeks,

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Speaker 1: we'll field a couple more questions. But you know, as

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Speaker 1: I think I've said to you guys before this thing

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Speaker 1: isn't really about making everybody happy. It's about disappointing everybody equally.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like that's kind of where we landed.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's uh, nobody's too high and nobody's too low. Did

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Speaker 1: you feel any questions or comments from the Jets over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Um, No, they've been good so far. I

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Speaker 1: have not heard from Homie or Brian Mulligan or from coach. Um. Look,

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Speaker 1: they're they're obviously in our backyards. We talked to them regularly,

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Speaker 1: and I think we had a pretty good sense of

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Speaker 1: the kinds of things that they were looking for in

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Speaker 1: this season. Um. You know, obviously your record dictates most

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Speaker 1: of your television. So it comes down to travel, It

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Speaker 1: comes down to a home opener, It comes down to

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Speaker 1: a Thursday home game. You know, Like most teams in

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Speaker 1: the league, I think two of the things that they

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Speaker 1: were focused on, we're opening at home and catching that

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Speaker 1: Thursday game. Everybody's got one on a short week. I

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Speaker 1: think most teams, if you asked them, would prefer to

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Speaker 1: have it at home. So, you know, of the things

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Speaker 1: the teams were looking for this year, the Jets checked

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Speaker 1: a couple of boxes, you know, with the home opener

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Speaker 1: in the Home Thursday. All right, we're gonna dive into

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Speaker 1: the deep on with the jets here in a second.

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Speaker 1: But can you talk about the making to the schedule

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Speaker 1: being a combination of both art and science. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what it is. I mean, it's been art for

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Speaker 1: so so long. Um. You know, those of us who

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Speaker 1: have been doing this for five years, we go back

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Speaker 1: to the days of Vow Pinchback, the father of NFL scheduling.

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Speaker 1: He used to build the schedule by hand, one game

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Speaker 1: at a time, one decision at a time, making the

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Speaker 1: best decision in the moment, but really not having any

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Speaker 1: indication of what corners you painted ourselves into, what rabbit

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Speaker 1: hole you're now going down, or what branches of the

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Speaker 1: search tree you now completely have lopped off by making

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Speaker 1: a decision that felt like the right decision in week

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Speaker 1: two or week three, or for ESPN in week six. Um.

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Speaker 1: So uh, we're all still kind of doing it the

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Speaker 1: way val always did it, but obviously taking advantage of

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Speaker 1: the software and the hardware. Instead of building one schedule

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Speaker 1: Thousands by the time we're done. Uh, we ended up

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Speaker 1: literally completing over a hundred thousand legal, playable, feasible NFL

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Speaker 1: optimization they can create a lot more options for you. Now,

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Speaker 1: the question is are they better right? Which ones are

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Speaker 1: Howard Kats, who runs the scheduling process, has in mind.

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Speaker 1: You know, we sit down February eight or whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: lots and lots of schedules, but most of them get

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Speaker 1: not rethink kickoff, Let's not rethink Thanksgiving or Christmas. We

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Speaker 1: like that schedule that's hanging on the wall, but if

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Speaker 1: Jets fans to say, Mike, what about some primetime love. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got the Thursday night game, the home game gets

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Speaker 1: were absolutely in the mix. For ESPN. We looked at

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Speaker 1: also this was the twenty one anniversary at nine eleven. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 1: They also don't want to go to Florida in September

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Speaker 1: seven or seven one one. As far as the league

429
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Speaker 1: is concerned, can you talk about the increasing number of

430
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Speaker 1: broadcast partners and also the Amazon streaming the Thursday night

431
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 1: football is now? Yeah, no doubt. I mean, look, you

432
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: mentioned whatever you said nineteen seventy there, think about going

433
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: back to basically every game was at one o'clock or

434
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Speaker 1: four o'clock on Sunday afternoon, and that was it, right,

435
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 1: And then we added Monday night football in the early

436
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 1: seventies and everybody said, nobody's gonna watch football in primetime

437
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: on a weeknight, on a school night, on a work night.

438
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 1: You guys are nuts. That turned out to be a

439
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: relatively successful franchise. Same thing we went to Sunday night football. Um,

440
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, we've added Thursday nights over the past fifteen years.

441
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: We've got nine thirty a m London games. We're playing

442
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, on Christmas, on New Year's Uh, there's an

443
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: awful lot of new windows. And as long as you know,

444
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: the lubs can adjust and handle it. And like we said,

445
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: turn that which seems, um you know to be uh

446
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 1: unique and different, suddenly becomes routine. Right. These London games

447
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: are now relatively routine for our teams, um, and I

448
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: think our fans are starting to find uh more of

449
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: our games kind of wherever we deploy them. You know,

450
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: if if all the games are still Sunday afternoon at

451
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: one o'clock, um, you don't get a chance to see

452
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 1: some of the other teams in the league and you're

453
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: just gonna watch your team over and over and over again,

454
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 1: which is important a lifeline of the league. And you know,

455
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: one of the key facets of every one of our

456
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: broadcast partners relationships with us the home team local market

457
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: ratings absolutely uh mission critical to the success of the NFL,

458
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 1: no question about it. But you know, when you can

459
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: finish watching the Jets at one o'clock and if the

460
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: Giants are on by then we should show you a

461
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: Packers game or a Steelers game, or a Bills game

462
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: or a Chiefs game at four thirty. Uh, and then

463
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: another one on Sunday night and another one on Monday night.

464
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: So trying to you know, innovate, look for these new windows.

465
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: Our fans will tell us, um, if we've gone too

466
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: far or if there's a window that they're not interested in. Uh.

467
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: You know, the proof is in the pudding. As always,

468
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: and at least so far, our fans have found our

469
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: games as we've deployed them across different days and different

470
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: time slots and different network partners. Amazon is gonna be different,

471
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. Um. You know, we have prime accounts.

472
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: We're probably gonna find the football games. If not, our

473
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: kids will help us, uh find Amazon Prime. Our folks

474
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: might need a little help, So it might take a

475
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: little bit of a transition, and everybody's gonna have to

476
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: get used to, um, you know, finding the games uh

477
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: you know, deployed on a streaming service. But um, you know,

478
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 1: if you think back just a couple of years, you know, Netflix, Hulu,

479
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: Paramount Peacock, all those things were uh you know, in

480
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: their infancy, and and no real assurance that they were

481
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: gonna work, that fans were gonna find them, that people

482
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: are gonna be interested, the people are gonna pay for them. Now,

483
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: you know, it sure seems like there's room for everybody.

484
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 1: It really does. And they're just another button on your remote,

485
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: right channel to channel four, channel five, Netflix, Zulu, Amazon, Um,

486
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: it's become routine for us. I think it will take

487
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: a little while for fans to you know, get used to,

488
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: uh finding it on a new broadcast outlet. We haven't

489
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Speaker 1: had a new broadcast partner, I think in thirty forty years,

490
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: So it'll take some time to transition, no doubt. But

491
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Speaker 1: you know, one of the ways you get people used

492
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: to things like that is to make sure you put

493
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: your good games there. And I feel like we've kind

494
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Speaker 1: of you know, struck that right balance with the Thursday

495
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: night package. There's some big ones that you feel like, hey,

496
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Speaker 1: that's musty TV. I gotta go find Amazon. And once

497
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: you do that first or second time, I think it's

498
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: just gonna become routine, and hopefully by about mid season,

499
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: everybody's just gonna you know, remember when we thought people

500
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Speaker 1: wouldn't find Amazon. Uh, I think our fans are gonna

501
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: find it. Deploy a couple of the really big games

502
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: out there, whether it's a Baltimore Tampa, a Tennessee Green

503
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: Bay obviously the opener with Chargers chiefs um and who

504
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: knows that Jaguars Jets game down there December may have

505
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: playoff implications by the time we get there, and hopefully

506
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: by then everybody will have figured out how to watch

507
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: their walking on the streaming service. Now you're talking, you

508
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: can talk about a little bit about flex scheduling. Where

509
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: it's at two in spansion of it in three because

510
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: I already have my eyes on Monday Night Football in

511
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: three because uh, my point on this is, yes, thirteen

512
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: one o'clock starts, but that's written in pencil correct. Absolutely,

513
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: look this whole schedule is written in pencil. If there's

514
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: anything that you know COVID taught us, it's that we

515
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: gotta be flexible. Everything's written in pencil. Uh, God willing,

516
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: We're we're through with the pandemic, you know, impacting our schedule.

517
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: But you know, every year there's surprise teams. Right, what

518
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: do we have four or five new playoff teams? Every year?

519
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: There's always somebody going worse to first. Uh. It's hard

520
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: to maintain success in this league. Everything is kind of

521
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: set up, uh, you know, for parity, whether it's a

522
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: salary cap or the reverse draft order, free agency, whatever

523
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: it is. Um, it's it's hard to stay good year

524
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: after year. And here we are making a schedule in April,

525
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: may you know, guessing who's gonna be competitive in September

526
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: four months away or in December eight months away. I'm

527
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: not sure our crystal ball is that good, or if

528
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: anybody's crystal ball is that good. So an awful lot

529
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: of chances for us to kind of, you know, use

530
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: some tools that we have in the toolbox with our

531
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: network partners, move the games that have playoff implications in

532
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: the bigger time slots. Again, it's not always about you know,

533
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: generating eyeballs, generating ratings. It's about rewarding the teams that

534
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: have played their way, you know, into bigger television windows,

535
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: letting our fans meet these teams, because you're probably gonna

536
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: see him on television in January when we get to

537
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: the postseason. So whether it's Sunday Night Football or even

538
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoons, moving from a one o'clock window to

539
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: a four o'clock window will shorten that runway up as

540
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: as much as we can try to let everybody know, hey,

541
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 1: you're in position to be changed into a different time slot,

542
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: but it's because you're having success. It's because you're good,

543
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: it's because your games matter. Fully recognizing the challenges for

544
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: the forty or fifty thousand ticket holders, but you know

545
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: there's million people are gonna watch the game on television.

546
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: We want to make sure that those fans get to

547
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 1: see the games that matter the most. And if our

548
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: crystal ball was a little blurry in April, and maybe

549
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: the Jets didn't get as much prime time as they'd hoped, um,

550
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: there's one way to fix that, and and that's to win.

551
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: And when we find ourselves in December, um, there's opportunities

552
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: to move into bigger, higher profile television time slots, and

553
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: as you reference, starting in three that will include Monday

554
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: night football. That's gonna be a challenge for us. All.

555
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna be reckless or haphazard with it.

556
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: It's not like we're gonna change it because you know,

557
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: this team's five and seven and this team six and seven.

558
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: You know, we're not really you know, moving mountains there. Um.

559
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: But if the Monday night football game that we put

560
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: in week fifteen next season, uh, truly, as two teams

561
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: that are just playing out the string, we're not doing

562
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: them a favor by putting them on national television. We're

563
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: not doing Disney a favor. We're not doing the fans

564
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: of favor by asking them to go out for a

565
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: night game, you know, for a couple of teams that

566
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: are no longer in playoff contention, especially if there's a

567
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: game over here sitting on Sunday at one o'clock between

568
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: two teams that we really didn't see coming. And if

569
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: we don't change it, that game is gonna be on

570
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: in fifteen percent of the country, eighteen percent of the country.

571
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: It's not worth more than that and our fans deserve

572
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: to see that game. More of our fans deserve to

573
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: see that game. So whether we slide it to Sunday

574
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: at four or Sunday night at eight fifteen, or now

575
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: Monday night at eight fifteen, we've got more opportunities to

576
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: reward the teams who have played their way into bigger

577
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: television windows. Alright, sixty seconds. The Jets plan on playing

578
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: meaningful football in December. And you've been uh so gracious

579
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: with your time. You went with the league for more

580
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: quarter century. Uh doing this. What kind of advice would

581
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: you give somebody who's interested in following a career path

582
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: like this? Uh, I'd start with, have thick skin. Uh.

583
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever happy with the schedule, so you've got to

584
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: be prepared. Uh. You know Howard Katz, who's been running

585
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: the scheduling process for the last fifteen years, taught us all,

586
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: taught all of this, taught all of us this a

587
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: long time ago. Uh. It's very quick that the you know,

588
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: parade celebrating your success turns into a mob running you

589
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: out of town. Um, you gotta have some thick skin,

590
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: you gotta have a long memory, you gotta remember. Um,

591
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: you know what you did right, what you did wrong.

592
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: You gotta be willing to take criticism, you know, strictly

593
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: from uh, you know, career development standpoint. Uh. You know,

594
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: this would hold true for literally just about any any

595
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: industry these days, but especially uh, the NFL and and

596
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: specifically the scheduling team. Uh. It's all about the data.

597
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: It's all about the math and science. It's all about

598
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, search heuristics and predictive analytics and uh, finding

599
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: the signal in the noise. There is so much data

600
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: out there, and you've got to figure out what really

601
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: matters and what you can use to make your product better.

602
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: And that's not just for football, that's for any industry.

603
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: But you know, for us, every time a fan interacts

604
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: with the league, whether they're listening to the Jets podcast

605
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: or calling in the talk radio or adding some either

606
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: their fantasy team, or buying a jersey on NFL shop

607
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: dot com, or tweeting something or buying a ticket on

608
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: a secondary ticketing partner, or following somebody on Instagram, or

609
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: in states where it's legal, making a bet on a game.

610
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: You know, every time they interact with us, they're telling

611
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: us what they care about, and we're trying to take

612
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: all that data, listen to the fans as always, they'll

613
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: tell us what's working in what is and they'll tell

614
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: us what we are doing right and doing wrong, and

615
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: really trying to like take all that data. And again,

616
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: any industry is going through this right now. The days

617
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: of gut and feel and instinct. There's always some value

618
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: to that, but it's really more about the math and

619
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: the science and the data and the analytics and really

620
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, which of these data

621
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: points really matter and you can use to your benefit

622
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: and our fans can you know, expect us to use

623
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: to their benefit. Um. And it's also about really trying

624
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: to figure out which of these data sets actually means something. Uh.

625
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: And like we said, some of these things about rest

626
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: discrepancy or playing you know too many division opponents, you know,

627
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: do these things really matter? Or line us up, tell

628
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: us one to play and we'll be there. And sometimes

629
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: the team that's favored gets hammered, and sometimes the team

630
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: that's the underdog with the rest discrepancy and the long

631
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: travel pulls out of w You never know. That's what's

632
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: so great about sports. UM. That would probably be my

633
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: final piece of advice, you know, be a fan. I mean,

634
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: we're so lucky to work in this industry to get

635
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: to talk about and and watch sports for a living. Um,

636
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: we should never forget that. I'm certainly very grateful and

637
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: appreciative of the opportunity and take it seriously and really

638
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: hope that, you know, this schedule plays out as well

639
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 1: as we think it has a chance to here in April,

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Speaker 1: and uh, if not, you know, adjust as we go

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Speaker 1: and and and use the tools that are available to

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Speaker 1: us to kind of shift and reward the teams that have,

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Speaker 1: like we said, played their way into bigger television windows.

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Speaker 1: Mike North, congratulations on another schedule. Get a couple of

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Speaker 1: days of rest, I know you got a lot of

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Speaker 1: interviews to do, and then start getting after will probably

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Speaker 1: be talking year later in December, I would think, because

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Speaker 1: the Jets they think they're gonna take some steps, we'll

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Speaker 1: have to see. Yeah, look, love to be back on

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Speaker 1: and then and talk about what worked, what didn't work,

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Speaker 1: what we learned, and maybe even kind of tell your fans, hey,

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Speaker 1: here's what to think about these next four weeks, because

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Speaker 1: if they are in a playoff chase, there might be

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Speaker 1: some games that are gonna have to shift some time

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Speaker 1: slots and how that all works and what has to

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Speaker 1: happen for everything to line up? Happy to do it,

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Speaker 1: and uh yeah, let's let's hope that's exactly what Jets

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Speaker 1: fans are dealing with in December. Be a good problem

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Speaker 1: to have. Thanks brother, Take care