1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: I've got a friend and colleague on the show, Jason Schaefitz. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: You know him from Fox News. He's also the former 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: House Oversight chairman as well, and we're going to dig 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: into the recent documents that have been declassified and have 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: been pushed out by the Trump administration, these explosive documents 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: surrounding the Trump Russia probe. So we'll cover the new revelations. 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: We'll explore who launched the investigation and why, and then 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: also examine President Obama's role. Also, was it Hillary Clinton 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: who kicked this all off? Who spearheaded all of this 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: with the Steele dossier. We'll talk about Hillary Clinton's role 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: in this manufactured intelligence. Also, did the FBI ignore red 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: flags about Russian disinformation and all of this as well. 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: We'll get to the bottom of that. 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for my friend and colleague, Jason Schaffitz, 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: who's going to bring us the truth about the Watched 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: Russia hoax. Well, Jason Schaefits, it's great to have you 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: on the show again. 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: My friend. 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: We kind of got into this when we were co 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: hosting together recently on The Big Show, and so when 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking about a guest, I was like, Jason 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: is the person for this, So I appreciate you making 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: the time. 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, always anything for Lisa Booth. Are you kidding me? 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: Well, be careful, be careful putting that out, you know. 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: Start to well, I've learned the hard way, So yeah. 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding. 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: But okay, so Jason. 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: So basically, obviously there's like so much information being put out, 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: and so I think it's like a little bit honestly confusing, 33 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: but just I think people are kind of trying to 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: figure out like what's new, what's not new, just sort 35 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: of like sifting through it. And so it's kind of 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: like the point of the conversation I want to have 37 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: with you. It is just sort of breaking it down 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: and you know, explaining it to both me and then 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: the audience as well. So I guess it's start off 40 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: kind of at the top with all the information that's 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: been released so far, what's new that we didn't already know? 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and let me preface new by saying it's a 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: growing body of evidence that should have been uncovered and revealed. 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: If you had actors that were playing by the rules 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: and by the law. It should have come out, you know, 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: years ago. So the Democrats are masters at playing this 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: game saying, oh, well, that's not new, so it's not 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: worthy of listening to. But that's not true. And so 49 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: the newest things that you know were foreshadowed by Telsea Gabbert, 50 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: the Director of National Intelligence, John Radcliffe is CIA director. 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: Cash Pattel has foreshadowed even more documents coming from this 52 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: so called annex to the Durham Report, these burd bags 53 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: that were found. The startling evidence that is quote unquote 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: new is Hillary Clinton personally signing off on it, on 55 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: this operation to to delegitimize Donald Trump by drawing an 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: association that was bogus, that was not true in relationship 57 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: to Russia. And that comes out in emails from witnesses 58 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: who say that's what happened. It's not Hillary rod and 59 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: Clinton saying I Hillary Rod and Clinton did this. So 60 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: it's an allegation, but it's a serious one because it 61 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: was the first hardcore, first hand account in writing that 62 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: said HRC has approved this. Now I'm paraphrasing, but that's 63 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: essentially the allegation. And this goes back to w Westernman Schultz, 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: the Florida congresswoman, having interactions with people in George Soros's 65 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: orbit and foundations, but to say that that was something 66 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: that she personally signed off and that they were good 67 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: with moving forward. Another big one which we had not 68 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: heard and seen before, was the idea that Barack Obama, 69 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: as the President of the United States December of twenty sixteen, 70 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: was going to rewrite, in essence, have them go back 71 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: and rewrite the findings of the career officials within the 72 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: intelligence communities to change the assessment. They believed that the 73 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: Steele dossier, which was used as the predicate to spy 74 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: on Americans and spy on Donald Trump's campaign and those 75 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: in his orbit, that that was discredited, didn't meet the 76 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: standards of intelligence collection and therefore they didn't have the 77 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: predicate to do the spying. And now that Donald Trump 78 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: did the unthinkable, which was get elected, Donald Trump was 79 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: going to be able to figure that out unless they 80 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: went back and rewrote this, which happened a week or 81 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: so before Donald Trump got his first presidential brief as 82 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: the candidate elect or the president elect in December of 83 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, So that again is new information direct involvement 84 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: by the President of the United States and again furthers 85 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: this and this notion that he didn't want to have 86 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: his whole presidency tainted by Hillary Clinton and her email 87 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: scandal and something that I was very involved in. Those 88 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: are some of the biggest takeaway items. And there's a 89 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: lot more to it, but that's those are some of 90 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 2: the newest things that just add fuel to the fire. 91 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: And this what could be a quite a conspiracy. 92 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: Who started it, Like who initiated this whole you know, 93 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: spying on President Trump and you know, kind of starting 94 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: the idea that Trump was like in bed with Putin 95 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: in the Russians. 96 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,119 Speaker 2: So the growing body of evidence seems to indicate again 97 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: nothing has been proven, nobody's been you know, prosecuted and convicted, 98 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: but the growing amount of evidence is that Barack Obama 99 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: did not want this email scandal with Hillary Clinton spinning 100 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: out of control, and that Clinton's took ten million dollars 101 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: out of their campaign to use that money through Mark 102 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: Elias and his law firm. They checked it off as 103 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: a quote unquote legal expense, which I think has been 104 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: ruled on now is it really wasn't a legal expense 105 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: to push this money overseas to then come up with 106 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: this fiction. It's not as if they said, hey, structure 107 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: it just like this. It's hey, we've got a bloody 108 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: up Donald Trump and create this proximity in this question 109 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: in people's minds that Donald Trumps as a Russian puppet, 110 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: you know. And so you start to see the players 111 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: in there, and then you start to see the intelligence community. 112 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: This is where it gets really nefarious is when you 113 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: have people like James Clapper, John Brannan, James Comey seemingly 114 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: ponds in executing this not fully investigating Hillary Clinton, not 115 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: doing anything to get to the truth about her handling 116 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: or mishandling or classified information that's a whole other thread 117 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: or vein that we could go and talk about that 118 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: I was very involved with. But they use this Steele 119 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: dossier as the predicate to then go to the courts. 120 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: And this is where I think there's the most vulnerability 121 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: if somebody is actually going to get prosecuted. Is the 122 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: way this works in the you hear this term the 123 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: FISA court right. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act gave special police 124 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: powers to if somebody's overseas communicating with somebody in the 125 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: United States. How do you deal with that? That's not 126 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: a traditional warrant between two Americans with constitutional rights, So 127 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: how do you do that? They came up with this 128 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: faiza scheme under the Patriot Act, which would actually allow them, 129 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: the government to put forward a document that goes to 130 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: a judge. They call it a court, but it's really 131 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:34,239 Speaker 2: just a judge in a skiff secure compartmental information facility, 132 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: and the judge will look at that documentation and either 133 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: grant or deny a warrant to surveil somebody. And it's 134 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: like ninety nine point something percent of them get approved. 135 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: At the very top of this little forma says verified, 136 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: like they've verified this information. And at least on some 137 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: of the occasions, I believe it's James Comey who signed 138 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: off on these applications to get warrants to spy on 139 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: people in Trump's orbit. But the allegation is that they knew, 140 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: or they should have known, that the underlying predicate, the 141 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: Steele dossier was bogus, and therefore they lied to the court. 142 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 2: And there are a lot of us that believe if 143 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: you lie to the court, there should be consequences. If 144 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: Lisa Booth lied to the court. If Joe Schmo out 145 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: in Kansas City lied to the court, If you know, 146 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: Jennifer Jones out in you know, to peek at Kansas 147 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: lied to the court, she'd probably go to jail. She'd 148 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: probably be you know, there'd be repercussions. But that's far 149 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: there hasn't been any. 150 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: And the irony is I know Senator Grassley put this 151 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: out I think in twenty twenty, well can't some of 152 00:09:53,920 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: the did classified footnotes and found that it believed that 153 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: some of the sources of Christopher Steele were tied to 154 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: like the Kremlin. So like the irony is that in 155 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: an effort to push the narrative that Trump was cozy 156 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: with the Russians, they were pushing Russian disinformation from sources 157 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: that were tied to the Kremlin. 158 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: So part of what's kind of uncovered here. 159 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: Like they were the ones working with the Russians. 160 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: So part of what gives credence to some of the 161 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: career officials who went and looked at this is somehow someway. 162 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: We don't know how, but the US government Intelligence agency 163 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: picked up on communic cays that the Russians had, that 164 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: the Russians had kind of tapped into what Hillary Clinton 165 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: was doing, and they foreshadowed that Clinton would do just this, 166 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: that she was going to come up with this scheme. 167 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: They foreshadowed how they were going to execute on it, 168 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: that Joe Biden, then his vice president, would be the 169 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: very first to go out and make this allegation about 170 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: Donald Trump and that it would roll from there, and 171 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: they gave very specific details and markers. And then when 172 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: it started actually happening, the US intelligence community looked at 173 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 2: that and said, oh my gosh, what the Clintons are 174 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: doing is actually true and real because the Russians foreshadowed it. 175 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: They must have an It's kind of scary how good 176 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: the Russians are inspiring on us and our political leaders. 177 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: They're the bad guys in this, but you know, they 178 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: foreshadowed exactly that Joe Biden would do this, and then 179 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: the DNC happens in twenty second, you know, the Democratic 180 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: National Convention, and then you know, in twenty sixteen, sure enough, 181 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: he goes out there and he's one of the first 182 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: ones making these allegations, just like the Russians said that 183 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: Clintons would do. So that is also new that the 184 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: Russians had figured out Clinton's scheme, and they thought it 185 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: was I mean, I think the underlying and again I 186 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: haven't read every document of every line, but again another 187 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: allegation is that the Russians ironically really wanted Hillary Clinton 188 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: to win because they had a lot more dirt on 189 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: her than they did on Donald Trump. They didn't have 190 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: anything on Donald Trump. He didn't have much well, I 191 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: think too. 192 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: One thing that was always I think kind of demonstrates 193 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: kind of like the collusion and the desire to work 194 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: against Donald Trump and all this is that the media 195 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: couldn't publish the Steele dossier because they knew it was 196 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: unverified and they couldn't verify the information in it. And 197 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: so James Comy and Brennan and some of the other 198 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: intel guys met with President Trump, then President elect Trump 199 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: before he took office in twenty seventeen, and briefed him 200 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: on the salacious details of the dossier. And then somehow 201 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: that magically leaked. The fact that they met magically leaked 202 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: to the media, which I think CNN then covered, and 203 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: then it gave BuzzFeed the hook to publish the dossier 204 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: in fool, which they couldn't publish previously because it was unverified. 205 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: But because the meeting was leaked, that gave them the 206 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: hook to then release the unverified dossier. And so it's 207 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: like pretty obvious that Comy, who was a history of 208 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: leaking to the media, you know, basically set Trump up, 209 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: juiced him up with the salacious details they knew to 210 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: be false, and then gave uh, you know it gave 211 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: the green light to the media to then run with 212 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: all this. You know, Clinton wise to begin with, well. 213 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: Look, this is the CD side of why so many 214 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,479 Speaker 2: had that's accurate, right, all that, Oh yeah, CD concerns 215 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: about James Comy in the way he did business. I mean, 216 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: we had the Inspector General, Michael Horowitz at the Department 217 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: of Justice recommend prosecution of people who were leaking information, 218 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: accepting gifts for information, doing things like that. And then 219 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: and then, of course, you know, James Comy engaging with 220 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: a somebody he had a long time relationship with who 221 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: didn't have a security clearance giving him information. You know, 222 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: it's just they had a pattern of this, and I'm 223 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: talking about finding shells on a beach. I'm talking about 224 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: some you know, stuff that has security clearance issues. And 225 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: so that's and then Comy you know, doing a variety 226 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: of other things. I mean, how many times did I 227 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: get a lecture from James kmy about well, you know, 228 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: you have to prove intent. Well, the proving of intent 229 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: here on where Comer or Komy, Clapper and Brennan were 230 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: going with this stuff is increasingly evident, particularly against Brennan, 231 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: who you know, testified that he didn't use the Steele 232 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: dossier to write the intelligence, but then as other testimony 233 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: and other corroborating evidence that says he did. And so 234 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: it's it's still to be played out. Everybody's innocent until 235 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: proven guilty. But the these are the these are this 236 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: is why it continues to move forward. And it's not 237 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: behind us. 238 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: We've got more with Jason schaffit's but first we've got 239 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: to take a quick commercial break. 240 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: So there's no doubt in. 241 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: Your mind that Obama knew exactly what was happening and 242 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: like basically spearheaded this whole thing. 243 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: Well, the evidence is now showing that he did know, 244 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: and that he was not just informed but an active 245 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: player and making some key decisions. That that's pretty I 246 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: just feel lied to by him. You know, he always 247 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: tried to put himself up as all, we're a scandal 248 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: free administration. Oh they weren't. I mean I started by 249 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: looking at the fast infurious scandal we started. We dove 250 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: into the IRS scandal. They had their own set of 251 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: other spying scandals with the Associated Press, with James Rosen, 252 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: Cheryl Atkinson still has some stuff that's in the courts. 253 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it just goes on and on with the 254 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: Obamas and and Clinton's. It's just to see jess Obama 255 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: was this above it all, above the Fray scandal free? 256 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: Now this that he had the intelligence community go back 257 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: and rewrite history so that that Donald Trump would never 258 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: catch wind of it. I mean, good, just shoe leather 259 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: work by you know, the Tulsi Gabbards and John Ratcliffs 260 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: of the world to go find this, and now what 261 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: Cash Betel and Dan Bongino are finding. I mean, that's 262 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: just there's still a lot more to come all these 263 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: burn bags. I mean, there's a lot more coming well. 264 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: And the sad thing is like ruined lives and you know, 265 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: like Michael Rudo who used to work for President Trump. 266 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: You know he had liquidate his his children's college funds 267 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: just to pay for an attorney as he you know, 268 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: with subpoenat and how to testify and you know, how 269 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: to lawyer. 270 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: Up through all of that jail. You know, it's just 271 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: people went to jail. And look, they almost pulled it off. 272 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: They almost malign Donald Trump enough to manipulate an election 273 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: and put Hillary Clinton in there. We were that close 274 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: to having President Hillary Clint in place. I mean, you 275 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: remember the afternoon of the election, everybody thought she was 276 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: going to win. Well. 277 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: I think the only challenge in all this is that 278 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: there's so many moving parts and it's so it's kind 279 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: of like convoluted, and so I worry with the complexity 280 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: of it if that gets lost to the American people 281 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: and they're like, you know what, this is just too 282 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: much going on, you know, like well sort of thing. 283 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: One of the ones that it's culpable in saving democracy 284 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: is the national media, I mean, the intellectually not interested. 285 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: It doesn't go to their narratives. How many people pulled 286 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: off awards and Pulitzer prizes doing all this work on this, 287 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: I mean, did anybody apologize, do a retraction, provide, you know, 288 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: turned their awards back in or had their awards revoked 289 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: from the Pulitzer Committee? I mean none and That's what's sicking, sickening, 290 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: because they were culpable when Tulsi Gabbard stood up was 291 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: it last week before the or so? And she stood 292 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: up in the White House podium and was making these 293 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: allegations about Barack Obama. Several of the people in the 294 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: media there in the White House briefing room didn't even 295 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: ask a question about that. They wanted to talk about 296 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: a different topic. I mean, that's just stunning, absolutely stunning. 297 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: If they had this information on anybody else, certainly Donald Trump, 298 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: they would be all over it. But because it's Barack Obama, oh, 299 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: haven't forbid we actually criticize him. 300 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: I guess, so what do you think is going to happen? 301 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: And I also I think it's sort of hilarious because 302 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: they were not hilarious, terrible, but you know, they went 303 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: after Carter Page, but then like he was working he 304 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: was a CIA asset or like spying on a guy 305 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: who was actually actively working with the United States against 306 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: the Russians. So it's like, you know, but and then 307 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: also yeah, yeah, go ahead. 308 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: Two things. First of all, I hope America understands the 309 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: opportunity cost and the loss that is Peter Struck Lisa Page. 310 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: You know, they had really pivotal counterintelligence rolls. So instead 311 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 2: of actually going after maybe I don't know, Chinese spies 312 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: and the Sineloa cartel and anybody else who's trying to 313 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: dismantle the United States, they spent time on this hoax. 314 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: And that how many thousands upon thousands of hours was 315 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: spent perpetuating a hoax. There's that in terms of accountability. 316 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: You know, people always said, oh, Jason, you do this 317 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: and that, but you never arrested anybody, never prosecuted anybody. 318 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: I said, well, you know, in Congress they don't give 319 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: you handcuffs, nor should they. My job is I can 320 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: expose it. And to that degree, I think we did 321 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: really well as best we could. But we were lied 322 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: to even though these documents were under subpoena. And we 323 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: have a system in government where you should have to 324 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: comply with them and there should be consequences. If there's 325 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,239 Speaker 2: going to be a consequence, my guess where there's the 326 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: most vulnerability, particularly for James Comy, but others as well, 327 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: is this PISA warrant. If you go to the court 328 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: sign your name saying it's verified, it's true. Hey, federal 329 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: judge I need to be able to spy on this person, 330 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 2: and then they do. There has to be a consequence 331 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: for lying to the court. I think the Court under 332 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: John Roberts, the Chief Justice who oversees the phiz of Courts, 333 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 2: has got to do something. And I think that the 334 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: I think that you're going to see the hopefully the administration. 335 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 2: But the thing that might happen before either one of 336 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: those two do anything is that Congress when they get 337 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: back from the recess, either under Chairman Grassley or Chairman Jordan, 338 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: probably Grassly, he's going to have hearings and we're going 339 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: to call out Comy, Brennan, Clapper. All those people will 340 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: be called back up with this new information, and then 341 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: it'll be really interesting because the country will be focused 342 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 2: on single issues. What did you do and not do? 343 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: And that's tough when you've lied at least delegation previously 344 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: to Congress. That's going to be must ce TV. 345 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't remember did Biden pardon any of those people? 346 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: That's a good question, Lisa, I don't remember. 347 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: I'll stop my head. 348 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: I think a lot of them thought that the Statue 349 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: of limitations it expired. But as John Ratcliffe and others 350 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: have explained if you and Brett Tolman, great US attorney, 351 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: he's uh, he's explained, if you're perpetuating a conspiracy, then 352 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 2: you start anew on the five year statue of limitations. 353 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: So they bring them up before Congress, they start testifying. 354 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: That resets the clock again. So I think those guys 355 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: will come up before Congress and they'll all plead the 356 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: fifth That's that's what I'm afraid of. But I think 357 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: I think they have no choice. I think that's what 358 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: they're going to do. They're going to plead the fifth. 359 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: Well, and it's also you know, basically all that the 360 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: Trump administrations asking people to do is believe that people 361 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: who previously lied to them and previously CP's government did 362 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: it with Trump as well. I mean like Obama spied 363 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: on Associated Press reporters, like Brennan spied on the Senate 364 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: Intel Committee. Yeah, and you know, his own party, like 365 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: Diane Feinstein called him out for it because he was 366 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: spying on them with the waterboarding investigations at the Senate 367 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Intel Committee that they were conducting. So it's like and 368 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: then Komy like has already admitted that he leaked FBI 369 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: documents that he shouldn't have leaked to a professor buddy 370 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: of his to then get its right. It's like all 371 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: these people have already like you know, I've already admitted 372 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: and we're already aware. Who have you know, been as 373 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: bad actors in the past. But I guess, like, what 374 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: would the consequences be? Will there be consequences? I think 375 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: there's just this like general frustration. I know I feel 376 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: it myself as it's like we find out that these 377 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: people in DC, whether it be members of Congress or 378 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: what have you, do bad things and then it just 379 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: feels like there's never an accountability and then people keep 380 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: doing it again, you know, like there's never been accountability 381 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: for COVID and the lies where you know, it's like 382 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: it just feels like it's like, you know, we call 383 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: them out and then nothing happens. So like, what could 384 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: the consequences be? Do you think there will be any consequences? 385 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: I'd like to say yes, I want to say absolutely, 386 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: but I think unfortunately the history that I have over 387 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: the last fifteen years sixteen years of this stuff is 388 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 2: the answers. No, it's sad, it's wrong. I mean, take 389 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: it away from this whole thing Republicans, Democrats. Let's look 390 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: at Butler. You have a president of the United States, 391 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: a candidate for the presidency again gets and not even 392 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: a single person gets fired, not even one. Like they're 393 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: not It's just I'm so sick and tired of people being, 394 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: you know, doing something fundamentally wrong, either inept or just 395 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: totally abusing this system. There was a case a couple 396 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: of weeks ago where the Inspector General for the Federal 397 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: for the Department of Justice had made a recommendation for 398 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: prosecution of an FBI agent who was overseas using prostitutes 399 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: on a regular basis and doing some other nefarious things 400 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: recommended for prosecution, and they didn't do anything. They dismissed it. 401 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 2: Like I can go at least, I swear to you. 402 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: I could sit here for twenty hours in this case 403 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: after case after case, and it's frustrating me. For you, 404 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: I think they're American people, people care about our country, 405 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: and I want them to be held accountable. But I 406 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to give up on that, 407 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: but it is terribly frustrating. 408 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: And then even like on the Epstein stuff, like I 409 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: don't think Trump behaved in a way he shouldn't have 410 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: with you know, young girls or what have you. But 411 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: it's also like, you know, they've kind of like over 412 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: promised and underdelivered, and it feels like they're not releasing 413 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: certain things and it's sort of just uh, you know, 414 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: I think that kind of raises more questions than just 415 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: putting it out there. 416 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that chapter is done yet. I mean, yeah, yeah, 417 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 2: what are your what are your thoughts on? 418 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: Do you do you find it strange in the way 419 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: in the manner in which things have been released or 420 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: does that pretty much line up or you know, from 421 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: your perspective as the former chairman of Oversight committee, like, 422 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what are your thoughts? 423 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: Look objectively? The Department of Justice said case closed and 424 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: then days later that the Deputy Attorney General is down 425 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: interviewing Delane Maxwell for two days. So I don't know 426 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: what comes that. I knew that I believe it's August eleven, 427 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: James Comer is going to be conducting a hearing or 428 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: a transcribed interview at the jail in Florida. That's going 429 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: to be whoa, you know what she going to say? 430 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just saying that that one hasn't 431 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: fully played out yet, and I think there's an insatiable 432 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: desire to hear a lot more about it. But this 433 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: one is very newsworthy. Rate Now, when I say this one, 434 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 2: you know, Brennan Clapper comy Obama, Clinton all that, it's 435 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 2: just because there's new information and it's you know, but 436 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: it's the furtherance of something that has played out since 437 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 2: well back in twenty twelve. Is really kind of where 438 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: it started, and now it's still playing itself out. And 439 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: but you know, this is so I told you how 440 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 2: pessimistic I was, but I'm also optimistic because truth does 441 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: have a way of prevailing. And somehow, some way, the 442 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: American people figure this out and there may not be 443 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: somebody in handcuffs for twenty years out in some goolog 444 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: and you know that we all hope for. But politically, 445 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton didn't become the president. People figured it out, 446 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: not because of this scandal, but because they just figured 447 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: it out. And the American people, I don't think, will 448 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: reward people who are so nefarious in their intent. It's 449 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: just not the American way. And they'll reward the people 450 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: who are the adults in the room and do the 451 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: right thing, even though if their reputation in others this 452 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: costs the Trump family, I don't know, hundreds of millions 453 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: of dollars, and there's still people walking around thinking that 454 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 2: they're Russian assets. They put don They put Donald Trump 455 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 2: Junior on the cover of Time magazine and it said 456 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: caught red handed. He had like one meeting for twenty 457 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: minutes with somebody you'd never met before, and they put 458 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: them on the cover of Time magazine. I think the 459 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 2: people have figured out the national media, that's for sure. 460 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: More with Jason on the other side of this break, 461 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: if you're enjoying the podcast, please post to social media, 462 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: send it to your friends. Appreciate when you guys do that. 463 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: Stay tuned before we go. 464 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: Is there anything like I've missed that you kind of 465 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: wanted to convey in all this? 466 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: There's one little side side note here that is really 467 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: personal to me, and I'm probably too close to it. 468 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: But back when Benghazi happened, I usued a letter of preservation. 469 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: The preservation letter requires you to comply with the Federal 470 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: Records Act, but it also you have to keep all 471 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: of your notes, your contemporaneous notes, thoughts, everything. Because we 472 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: had four n in Americans and we could never unearth 473 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: all of these documents. Well, that was the quote unquote 474 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: email scandal. And fast forward, we found out that Hillary 475 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: had her own email system, she didn't use the government 476 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: won and that there was this highly classified information that 477 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: was traversing through her email system, which is basically the 478 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: same as getting an email system from Best Buy and 479 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: setting it up at home. And so there was a 480 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: few things that happened. We had the Select Committee on 481 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: BEng Ghazi, chaired by Trey Goudie, had things like John 482 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: Radcliffe and you know, some key people on there. But 483 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: Jim Jordan during that hearing asks Hillary Clinton when they 484 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: interviewed her under oath, was there any classified information on 485 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: your computers? And she said no, didn't send nor did 486 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: I receive any classified information. Fast forward to July of 487 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. I'm conducting the hearing. I'm the chair with 488 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: James Comy and Trey GOUDI asked Comy if any classified 489 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: information was found on Hillary Clinton's computer and he said yes. 490 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: So then I asked Comy, have you has Hillary Clinton 491 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: ever lied? And he said, cleverly, not to us, And 492 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: I said, well, what about In her answer to Jim 493 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: Jordan's saying that there was no classified information, and he 494 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: said never looked at it, to which I said, I'm paraphrasing, Well, 495 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: I didn't know you needed a permission slip. He said, yep, 496 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: sure do, And so I said, all right, we'll issue 497 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: a subpoena. All right, we'll issue this criminal referral like today. 498 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: It took a day or two to get it to him, 499 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: but we got it to him. I don't think they 500 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: did anything with that. I would love to know what 501 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: happened to that, And how come somebody can come lie 502 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: to Congress on a pivotal point like classified information and 503 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: have no consequence. And why did he say one thing 504 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: and then say, but we never prosecute her Again, I'm 505 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: probably too close to that, but that to me is 506 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: one of the strings that's still never been dealt with. 507 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, hopefully, I don't know if they'll 508 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: release any information on that or you. 509 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: Know, but did you lie to the court? Did you 510 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: sign your name testifying that it was verified? That gets 511 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: to be some really serious stuff, and hopefully if there's anything, 512 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: that'll probably be probably be the one where they actually 513 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: can prosecute somebody. 514 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: Jason Schaffit's he's got a new book, They're Coming for You, 515 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: How deep state spies, NGOs and will corporations plan to 516 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: push you out of the economy. We had them on 517 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: recently about it and it's pretty terrifying, so very interesting, 518 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: so if you want to go out and get it. 519 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: Jason Schaffitz, thanks for coming on the show. I really 520 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. My friend always thanks Lisa as Jason 521 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: Schaffit's friend and colleague, also the author of the new 522 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: book They're Coming for You, How deep state spies, NGOs, 523 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: and work corporatedtions planning to push you out of the economy. 524 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate him for taking the time to come on the show. 525 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, 526 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: but you can listen throughout the week. 527 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: Also want to think. 528 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: John Cassio and my producer for putting the show together. 529 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: Until next time.