WEBVTT - Keri Hilson

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<v Speaker 1>R and B Money.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank take out the child. We are the authority on

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<v Speaker 1>all R.

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<v Speaker 3>And B.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen. My name is TANKI. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all things

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<v Speaker 1>R n B. Yeah. Oh, it's getting sexy today. What

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<v Speaker 1>this is? It's getting warm, it's getting interesting. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's brains, there's beauty. Yeah, there's a gift. There's skill,

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<v Speaker 1>real vocals, real vocals, all wrapped up in real awesome package.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not waste any time on this, Ladies and Gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes no noise from miss carry Hill stand.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know how to sing miscarry baby thing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have. Come on, come on, come on, I

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<v Speaker 1>always see come on, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know how to sing them. Come on, it's weird, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>excinitely weird. Now, there was a ten second grade series.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I mean. That's how you're feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>You're feeling like light and love. You want some grand

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<v Speaker 1>rise and ship right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I am. Oh my gosh, oh get away from me.

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<v Speaker 1>You an't even God.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn rocks things, Crystal, Crystal.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll see where this ship going, all right, Christmas and

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<v Speaker 3>tarot card terms ship?

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<v Speaker 1>How far you going? You got some Christmas?

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<v Speaker 2>Have an altar? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? And you know what every crystal does you you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know what they do. Sometimes I have, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I charged them, Yes, under the full moon can be

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<v Speaker 2>charged with water with the sun. I charged my car

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<v Speaker 2>different things. You charge your car, Jay.

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<v Speaker 3>Get about three twenty five to three fifty. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's nice size battery.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you charge your body?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You ground that at your feet?

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<v Speaker 1>Ever since I met everything, since we had we put

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<v Speaker 1>our feet on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thank you Eric bene these young pavement because.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a timbling kind of you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just where I feel like you got to wear

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<v Speaker 1>your timbling boots all time. Oh your funk what you're doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Remember you you've come on that the snow socks.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm asing it impeded the so I get my

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<v Speaker 2>I get a little danceability you had already it impeded.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe it was the times all over.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the talk about was the hell of a dancer?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start there. I wasn't Chris Brown. Okay, that was

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<v Speaker 1>maybe his cousin Nick Brown. But I wasn't Chris Brown

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<v Speaker 1>should put that in the crayon Brown is nigga Brown?

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<v Speaker 2>My god, it would be a whole box though Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so many that'd be a hell of rainbow.

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<v Speaker 2>Brown would have to be a whole box of crowns.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, that was nice with the dance. I

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<v Speaker 1>was nice with the choreography. My improv was a little

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<v Speaker 1>little little questionable.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, but I'll give you that.

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<v Speaker 1>You my chore thank you. My choreography was right?

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<v Speaker 3>Did it?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>You had you had it?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have some of them christals on you so

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<v Speaker 3>I can meditate why this nigga over here talking ship?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I got a lot of I got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, y'all make sure y'all google the Freaky video,

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<v Speaker 3>please and.

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<v Speaker 1>Google and google You're my Star video, which I did

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<v Speaker 1>really well in. You had said so yourself, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to give it up. So you're not the

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<v Speaker 1>only one who dances Carrie.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't, no, I mean, I've never considered my

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<v Speaker 2>It's just when you brought up the boots, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the timberling boots because I flipped thatause I did

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<v Speaker 1>the back flip in the boots.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>If you notice that I did the Summer Salt in

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<v Speaker 1>the boots.

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<v Speaker 3>No hands, impressive or just nasty business and out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Flipping n That's just where I'm from. From that it's

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<v Speaker 1>just out of pocket. Out of pocket. Anyway, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie for for hanging out with us. I mean we've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this for a month of Sundays. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, this is not formal. This is love.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our opportunity to give you the love and

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<v Speaker 1>the flowers that you deserve and also an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 1>you to pop your ship because you because you are.

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<v Speaker 3>What you're doing what you and you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're doing, all right. So what we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>is we're gonna take this ship back to the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh lord, Yeah, we want to know where it come from.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to know where it stopped that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you gotta shout out your beautiful mama. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>say hi to my gird.

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<v Speaker 2>This man has had a crush on my mom for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years now, pretend crush.

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<v Speaker 1>Take us back? When did When was it identified that

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<v Speaker 1>that you had this.

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<v Speaker 2>By others or me?

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<v Speaker 3>Both? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I knew that I was special or different. Around

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<v Speaker 2>three or four, I remember people always asking me to

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<v Speaker 2>sing whatever song I knew whatever. I just remember being

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<v Speaker 2>at like family reunions and being that young and just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like a karaoke That's why I ended up

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<v Speaker 2>naming my publishing company Karaoke Music, I mean karaoke songs,

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<v Speaker 2>because I remember as a young kid, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>Carrie Sing, Carrie Sing all the way up through church retreats,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way up to high school, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. It was always that. So it was like

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I felt like a karaoke machine. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>as young as three and four, that began, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>why is everybody? But that would be the way that

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<v Speaker 2>that the only way that people would pay attention to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And so of course you're that young, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>notice that pattern. It's just like, okay, when I'm singing,

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<v Speaker 2>there's everybody's everybody stops, everybody stops, everybody's looking down at me.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, so my mom said.

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<v Speaker 3>She knew.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess around this she probably knew sooner she's let

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<v Speaker 2>me go to singing. Though singing, I would say, she

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<v Speaker 2>she finally believed enough to let me enter a talent

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<v Speaker 2>show in first grade, and she bought me sheet music.

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<v Speaker 2>Well if I was begging for a few years to perform,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, but she let me do that just

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<v Speaker 2>to see, just like, what's this little girl?

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<v Speaker 3>What is she?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? All I ever did anyone else?

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<v Speaker 3>Did anyone else in the family sing?

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<v Speaker 2>My dad used to sing. My dad would sing at

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<v Speaker 2>the fireplace with some drinks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how he would wind down.

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<v Speaker 2>He would come home tipsy and say, hey, everybody. He

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<v Speaker 2>would sit us down and perform for us at the mantle.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember what he was saying?

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<v Speaker 2>That it might I'm sure my mom remembers. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>my mom remembers his audience his We were a big

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<v Speaker 2>audience though. It was seven of us, well six others

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<v Speaker 2>than him. Yeah, six family of seven. Okay, so we

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<v Speaker 2>had a big ass audience. So we would sit on

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<v Speaker 2>the couch, line up, some of us sit on the floor,

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<v Speaker 2>and Dad would be at the fireplace singing for us,

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<v Speaker 2>and we would just clap. We were annoyed a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, gig, I need you all to pull up.

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<v Speaker 3>He's already talking to his pull up.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, And my mom would be like, he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Drunk because I have one. I'm an alcoholic. Everything goes

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<v Speaker 3>back to the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I got it from him for sure. But

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<v Speaker 2>my mother's mother was a performer, and my dad's side

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<v Speaker 2>all of them sing his sister, his mother, But my

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<v Speaker 2>mother's mother was a performer, like she was a what

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<v Speaker 2>do you call a baton twirler, there's a more professional

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<v Speaker 2>name for it, the major atte through adulthood. She was

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time, and she would perform and people

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<v Speaker 2>would come to see her, and so that I think

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<v Speaker 2>the performance probably came from her. I'm like the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like the mesh. Yeah, I'm like the mesh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was a later revelation.

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<v Speaker 1>Your first talent show?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you use the first talent show?

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<v Speaker 1>I won?

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<v Speaker 2>I won, and it was a big one. It was

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<v Speaker 2>it was you had to compete for some reason one

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<v Speaker 2>through seven, like first grade through seventh grade, because we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have middle school, so it was one through seven

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<v Speaker 2>and then eight through twelfth was high school. So they

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<v Speaker 2>had two categories. So I won for the elementary category.

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<v Speaker 3>But you were first grade and you beat everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Else everybody else alth seventh, yea, I sang I Sing

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<v Speaker 2>Home from the Whiz in a Poka Doddres and a

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<v Speaker 2>side pony pill place.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you have all the theatrics and everything?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's great. Mom coached me through. She brought

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<v Speaker 2>me the sheet music and the karaoke tape. Y'all remember, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>did you ever have? Did any of y'all? No sheet

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<v Speaker 2>music and the tape to go with it? Like an

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<v Speaker 2>instrumental used to be terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to just learn it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, a capella.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have to record it off of the radio

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, then play the cassette a bunch of times,

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<v Speaker 1>and then just sit at the piano.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I never had a karaoke Tapeis he was rich?

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<v Speaker 3>You was rich.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I could record me though. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you could record you, that's a new level. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying. We went to wad you track. I had

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<v Speaker 2>a team, but you could buy them from record stores

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<v Speaker 2>and piano stores. They had cover she cover music, she

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<v Speaker 2>music sheet music for covers.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't eve get new shoes, let alone, O got

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<v Speaker 1>that music. Start this back in tape. I enjoyed being poor.

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<v Speaker 1>I have way more. I never want to go back.

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<v Speaker 1>I never want to go back. All right, you win

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<v Speaker 1>the talent ship.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to challenge, does this push mom to

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<v Speaker 1>push you? Or does this or just or you just

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<v Speaker 1>let you know? You got it?

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<v Speaker 2>I was pushing her, I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was pushing her into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. My mom was resistant the entire time, but she

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<v Speaker 2>would actual yes enough for me to like, she would,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>What I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I told her she's well studied, smart, it's not just real.

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<v Speaker 3>Real college to the thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she would. She would. She believed in like allowing

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<v Speaker 2>us to she would enrich our lives with a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different activities. So, yeah, there were some things

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to do, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>But I had to do them. And if you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to play the piano, you're gonna do that, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. She she did believe in that, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really really grateful because I'm like great at a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things. I'm great at pretty much everything I do,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. It's good at least.

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<v Speaker 1>It's popular ship. This is this is what this is

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<v Speaker 1>for continue.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't suck anything, you know what I mean, anything

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<v Speaker 2>you throw my way, anything you think because I'm a girl,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know what I don't. I'm just saying it's

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<v Speaker 2>from the way that. Yeah, it's a character trait. Greatness

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<v Speaker 2>is a character trait. Excellence is a character trait, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also from being exposed to so much so young,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Just yeah, So when did.

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<v Speaker 1>It become real? Like you as you're going through the

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<v Speaker 1>talent show process, I'm sure there were many of those

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<v Speaker 1>because it was a local thing. When does it become

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<v Speaker 1>like when does it get exposure on another level, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a commercial or maybe a play, some musical theater or

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<v Speaker 1>a talent shows.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was I did do musical theater in elementary school,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember doing a play at I believe it

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<v Speaker 2>was either the Fox Theater or the Rialito. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was like an African wedding. I didn't get to sing no,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was in it, and that was like the

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<v Speaker 2>bug that was like, I see, it's a full audience. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>If I was carried now, I might have just went rogue.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a lot of moments where I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>it's real, it's nothing but a series of moments. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a series. You got years in between them. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't know the first one, but I remember

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<v Speaker 2>one of the big ones was joining the group under

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<v Speaker 2>Marvin McIntyre.

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<v Speaker 1>Marvin McIntyre, Yeah, yeah, that was a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>They formed. I was fourteen. They formed a group around me.

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<v Speaker 2>We were performing, We were showcasing for every label, all

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<v Speaker 2>every all of them, all the ones I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>reading in the credits, all of them. And we ended

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<v Speaker 2>up signing with Merlin Bob and Sylvia Rohne at Electra Electra.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So we never came out, but I don't even think

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<v Speaker 2>we got that far. And if we did, if we did, shit,

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<v Speaker 2>we may not have ever gotten it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get to y'all goody.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think it was actually a demo deal. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was a demo deal. Yeah, a development deal,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we disbanded before we got to that point.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a development budget too, though, well just for everything

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<v Speaker 1>you say.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the real thing. And I started writing then too,

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<v Speaker 2>for the group. He's writing the songs that we would

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<v Speaker 2>perform years in. First we were doing covers and then

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<v Speaker 2>I remember this is it wasn't my first taste of

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<v Speaker 2>writing because I had a guy I went to church

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<v Speaker 2>with who had tracks and he was an ass He

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<v Speaker 2>was signed to ASCAP, and you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he was kind of in the mix. His name was Terrence,

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<v Speaker 2>shout out of Terrence, and he would give me CDs

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<v Speaker 2>at church of instrumentals. So I'm like, finally I could

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<v Speaker 2>like write to something other than a song like me

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<v Speaker 2>having to erase the arrangement and the singing on top,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. Like I had to imagine

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<v Speaker 2>the tracks were instrumentals, but I was writing a whole

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<v Speaker 2>new songs over them, and and that was I was

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<v Speaker 2>successful at being able to do that, which is now

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<v Speaker 2>I think informs the way that I create now because

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<v Speaker 2>I can really isolate, you know what I mean, any player, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they gave it a name. I can do that with

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<v Speaker 2>voices too, Like somebody could be talking in a room

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I didn't hear a word you said

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<v Speaker 2>a word.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good and bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I do that, but it's hyper focused. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm hyper focused on something, I could oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah he's on out, I'm gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that means I'm hyper focused.

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<v Speaker 1>A baby, baby, baby, Well this is my family member.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still alive. They grew up, They fairy fine, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Like full steps, like stopped out.

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<v Speaker 3>He had this trip moment.

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on? Prince was on TV and it

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<v Speaker 1>was my first time ever singing and hearing Prince. And

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<v Speaker 1>so for me as a kid, things would things would

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<v Speaker 1>hit my brain like and stimulate me in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't understand and I will completely be lost.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just I remember walking towards the TV and.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope it wasn't like a dance. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>were break out.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just kind of stepped on the baby

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember screaming like what I look at his way,

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<v Speaker 1>So you stepped on the day. I didn't mean to.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to, And so I can zone out. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the point of.

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<v Speaker 2>The especially when music is involved. I remember those, y'all

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<v Speaker 2>remember those moments.

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<v Speaker 1>God, now you can scare me, Like if I'm zoned out,

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<v Speaker 1>you could scare the ship out of me. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like my kids have done it. It's around.

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<v Speaker 3>Around. So he's stepping on babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're writing, Yeah, I was writing songs, so I

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<v Speaker 2>was getting tracks and then it turned into writing for

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<v Speaker 2>the group, and that was real because he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he put us all in separate rooms and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the track I got. I want to see what

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<v Speaker 2>y'all can do. But had years, I had years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I got this smashed, yeah, real fasts. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>like me.

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<v Speaker 2>They were coming to the room like are you done?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you done? I was like, yeah, I'm done. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have all the parts?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I got the harmonies, you know what I mean? It's

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<v Speaker 2>fully written.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I'm stuck.

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<v Speaker 3>They had never really done it. I got it, I

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<v Speaker 3>got you, but they had never really done.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd never really done it, and it's not it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you still?

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<v Speaker 2>Easy thing? I reacquaint with them or one of them

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<v Speaker 2>really from that group? Really only once? And was it

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<v Speaker 2>been thirty years? Okay, not thirty years twenty five?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? But on the bad way?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, yeah one. Well actually yeah, they went as

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<v Speaker 2>separate as ways could go.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, okay, okay, you remember the name of the group.

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<v Speaker 2>By design, by design, design, give it one became mine? No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I didn't really like that. I did not

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<v Speaker 2>like the name. I don't like the name.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't never let her bring that back if she signs

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<v Speaker 1>the group. I know, yeah, we're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like the name. But one became one ended

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<v Speaker 2>up stripping, and one became the Minister of music.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah became.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that.

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<v Speaker 3>Body was on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Magic City got the best impossible Burger in town? What nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>He goes to Magic City for the impossible Burger tank.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes we do, I mean, yes we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently they do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we do that impossible burger magic shout out to

0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Magic I'm just talking to Lulu about that. He was

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone. He's like, he's like, you've been to

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<v Speaker 1>Magic City yet? I said no, but the Impossible Burger

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<v Speaker 1>is calling me. All right. So anyway, this group you're writing,

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<v Speaker 1>does anybody hear that, like hear these songs from this

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<v Speaker 1>group and identify you as as the writer as the

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<v Speaker 1>singular Yes, talent.

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<v Speaker 2>That Anthony did was one of them. Shout yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>was one of them. Focused Teddy Bishop.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, these are well started getting around.

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<v Speaker 2>It started kind of there's this girl. Yeah, there's this teenager.

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<v Speaker 2>She's also in college.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're in college by now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in college. Yeah. Because I was in the group

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<v Speaker 2>from fourteen to I went to college at seventeen. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we disbanded at eighteen. Yeah, fourteen to eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>How fast did you get in another group? Because I

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<v Speaker 3>met you when you were in a group.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it happened faster than I wanted it to. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to work on Carrie, but then then I started

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<v Speaker 2>writing for those people and more right when the group

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<v Speaker 2>disbanded and Dent had the idea to again put a

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<v Speaker 2>group around me. It's not what I wanted, but I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you a little time on this. I gave

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<v Speaker 2>him a little time on.

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<v Speaker 3>It, and he met me during that group.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was nineteen, I think, or maybe it might

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<v Speaker 2>have been a couple of years. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was pretty Tony.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that name. You came front on Pretty It

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<v Speaker 2>was four girls.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a nigga from Oakland naming his group after a

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<v Speaker 3>nigga in the Mac name Pretty Town.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, I know exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So then there's that, but like and we were bad.

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<v Speaker 3>These are these are the pretty Town you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I remember saying to Dent, I said, group is cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Her mm hmm. Her ended up being you. This was

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<v Speaker 3>just my assessment of it, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And at that point, I'm the super young nigg in

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<v Speaker 3>the industry. I had got me some little records I'm cracking,

0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.959
<v Speaker 3>you know, I got placements and ship and moving around

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.360
<v Speaker 3>New York as a writer. I was seeking them as

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<v Speaker 3>my partner, you know what I'm saying, because of our

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:18.919
<v Speaker 3>mutual friend Stewart, right, so that like, man, Valentine, I

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 3>need you to come by. Man, I got these girls.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm twenty twenty one years whatever I am

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:25.680
<v Speaker 3>at the time, like you got you said, you got

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<v Speaker 3>yours over there. I come see what she got over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Back.

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<v Speaker 3>I got me a little bag already coming. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there too then because Shakir was very instrumental in

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 2>like setting up our showcases for then, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>the girl.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was kind of I was quietly a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a taste maker for them, especially for Shakir, because

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 3>I was younger than them. So it was like if

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<v Speaker 3>our young partner who really out here, really moved went around,

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 3>if he fuck with it, It's something like That's how

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.360
<v Speaker 3>they looked at me, like they without me even being

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<v Speaker 3>an actual an R. I was kind of like the

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<v Speaker 3>consultant that wasn't getting paid. I was getting paid in

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:13.240
<v Speaker 3>the parties.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when I started. Johntay Austin took me up under

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 2>his wing while I was that was a great wing.

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 2>So he was like, didn't I would say it was

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 2>my first songwriting mentor. And then Johntay like as a

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.880
<v Speaker 2>actual songwriter, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, it's

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 2>a great wing. He brought me my first He taught

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 2>me how to cover my throat, brought me my first scarf.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Elegant.

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 3>We go over there right there and go open that

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 3>drawer right there. It's it's it's some things in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He taught me so much though about like about just

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 2>formatting and arranging and just I just got to watch.

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 2>He brought me in. Yeah, and he brought me in

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 2>on his sessions and before long because I'm like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I do everything what at least, well, I'm going to

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:35.439
<v Speaker 2>I put effort like it's that trait, so like I

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 2>catch on quick, you know what I mean? And that's

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 2>I just God was looking back. God was placing me

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 2>in every scenario that I needed to become.

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Who I became, to grab all those tools.

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, collecting tools for the toolbox. I don't know when

0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 2>or how I'm Aneda, but I know I'm a need

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 2>at some point. It was never a doubt in my

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 2>mind that I wouldn't have become famous. I knew really

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 2>really really young.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know, I didn't know what I knew it was.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean?

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't know. I didn't know what that meant.

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I know there was a thing I was just I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to sing. I just wanted to be I

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to be like John p Key, you know

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, and just you know, in singing church.

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 1>That's that's all I knew. Even when I saw it

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>on TV, I was like, oh, that's cool. Like but

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I never said, oh I want to be on TV.

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I never I never said that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you're saying your world was like just so

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<v Speaker 2>far from secular.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so fanatic any of that, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like I was just it was just if

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<v Speaker 1>if they standing up shouting church. That was the hype

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>for me. That was like that was like, oh, oh

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, I arrived.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I never I mean, to this day, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even consider myself ever being famous. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I've ever been famous in my life. So for me,

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<v Speaker 3>I look at it like you're there. I ran from

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<v Speaker 3>being famous, like you said, I always thought it would happen,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, I don't want it.

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<v Speaker 1>M M.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to go shopping and ship. I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to be able to enjoy my money, So I

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 3>gotta get me some money. Like that's what you will

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 3>push me in somebody's department store, boutique. That's where you

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 3>were running to me. If you want to find me,

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<v Speaker 3>if your city got a fly boutigue or some cool

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 3>ass shoes somewhere, that's what I'm gonna be. But that's

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 3>all for me, that's what I wanted. I never I

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 3>knew fame was going to come if I did certain things,

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 3>so I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do them. I'm famous,

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 3>keep famous on purpose. And yeah, that's why guys like

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 3>al Jamal hate me. He's like, niggas, just go do

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 3>your thing, nigga, Aljamal Youth, you knew you had it,

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Big Jason. All niggas that want to fight, niggas want

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 3>to fight you and beat you up and give your boye.

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 3>Niggas like go do but you saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm now I'm becoming the damn. I'm curious because you

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 2>guys are my friends. I feel like we're just talking

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 2>in the studio. But did you think that what you

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>saw your family go through or your brothers like that group, Like,

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 2>do you feel like getting that taste of it when

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 2>you were that young had anything to do with running

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 2>from it?

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't like to be bothered, Okay. I like to

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 3>eat in peace. I like to walk through the airport

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<v Speaker 3>in piece.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't want the t s a girl to be

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<v Speaker 3>like I seen you, which is the podcast is fucking

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 3>made that. I'm like, oh, are you flying first class?

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Because I know you don't like to pay for the

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 3>first class ticket.

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 2>She's watching You.

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Got your blanket? I have my blanket, yes for me?

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Like I just I like I like being normal. I

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 3>like normal life. I just want the money that come

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 3>along with y'all famous life.

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Once I got a taste of it, I need it.

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>How do I stay? How Once the nigga that was

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>doing security for me wouldn't let me in the club

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>because I wasn't that famous no more, I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, no, no, this has never happened again.

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>You knew I got to be famous at all times?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all time.

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I need the access, at least need the options. Even

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>if I don't want to partaket.

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 3>They don't know me and I'm not getting in and

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 3>somebody there, I'm just gonna go home. I don't care,

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 3>like they don't bother me, like I was sick. Oh,

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 3>y'all forul tonight, that's cool. I didn't really want to

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 3>be here anyway.

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>It's a little room.

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Who got a sexual.

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<v Speaker 1>Thoughts? What you're doing? You in there right now? There's

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>too many I'm away at the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh hear me?

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>H sickly?

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 3>So you knew you knew fame was in the car, yes, somewhat.

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Did you know as an artist or what? Did you

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 3>see it as like I'm going to.

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Be as an artist? So the groups, to me, I

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of felt like they are in my way? Why

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 2>does this keep happening? So they keep putting me in groups?

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Did you also delayed in the back of your mind

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 3>know that it wasn't going to work in a group?

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, huh, the back and the front.

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Hm hm, wow, it's that bullshit.

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 3>You're just passing time in a sense because you're like

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 3>this opportunity.

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Mhm develop relationships. And that's when the idea to cultivate

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 2>songwriting happened. Was just like, that's a waste, that's a

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>waste of my time. But this ain't hmm.

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>You found purpose within that.

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a waste of time.

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, while I'm in this space, I

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>can develop this.

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, So I was spreading the board and knowing

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>that it was possible that someone we would showcase four

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 2>would just be like I like her. Yeah, yeah, I

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 2>knew that was and it did happen.

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 3>It was happening.

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 2>It did happen.

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so when do you break free?

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 2>College allowed me the first opportunity to break free, even

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 2>though we are in a deal that this is the

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 2>first group by design the second group. Uh, I don't know,

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm sure I concocted a plan and carried it

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 2>through and I was successful.

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Get out exit plan diabolical. I've been there.

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that's how. I don't remember what I chose. Okay,

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I had some ideas and.

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I carried I'm getting out of this ship the spire

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 3>along fire start running. Then they're not as fast as me.

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>The building later literally yeah.

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.239
<v Speaker 3>But it makes sense. So when do you get your

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 3>first hit record? Then as a as a writer.

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>As a writer, okay, hip first hit, I can't play

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 2>that game. First placement, I remember my first placement. No,

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm lying. The first one I got to check for.

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 2>It was Ruben Stuttered for the first album, for his

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>first album, his first album. I think that's the first

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>one that paid. I don't remember. I remember that like

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 2>the group of first I was working listen, bruh. I

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 2>was doing two or three occasional four sessions a day,

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 2>like you know how they do in La now where

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 2>the writer goes two hours here and then two hours.

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 2>They could work an eight hour day, but they've been

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 2>with four or five producers throughout that time.

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's you. That was me in Atlanta. I had

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 3>school in Atlanta where nothing is.

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>My school was like an hour away, yes exactly, nothing

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 2>was close. So that was me. Then this is what

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 2>two thousand. I graduated in two thousands, so it would

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 2>have been like I guess two oh three ish. Sure,

0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 2>and that was that.

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 3>No, I can attest to that. Come to Atlanta and

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Carrie's like she's come by the crib. I'm like, all right, cool,

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 3>She's like, we're gonna write. Carrie knew how to work

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 3>her little pro tool set up, like she really knew

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 3>how to get through all the shit. It was like

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 3>me going to one of the other Homies spots and

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, I always had my home studios and I

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 3>had my different stuff too, and I'm like, oh, she

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 3>on her shit. I actually enjoy writing and working with her,

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 3>because you know, we all know this, We've all male

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 3>our female. You get to some people and you're just like, yo,

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 3>how are you even in the music business.

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 5>You don't know what the fuck you're doing?

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 3>Y Yeah, and I'm gonna call this engineer. Man, No,

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 3>this nigga ain't got here yet. It's like by this time,

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to go to Papa Dogs. I'm trying to

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 3>get a body here. Bron You wasn't ready. It wasn't.

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 3>I went to Carrie's house and I was like, oh,

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 3>she gets it.

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I was like, she fucking gets it. Like she is

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 3>on top of her shit. She's not wasting no time,

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 3>she's not playing around. We were going to and we

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 3>did write a song. You know what I'm saying like

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 3>that's something that we all shoot for, we all writers

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 3>and producers, and like we've all been there. You want

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 3>to finish some ship, yes, we want to write some ship.

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 2>And he wanted to be great, to be great yeah

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 2>every time. So yeah, the hook we were. I had

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 2>a food time. This was like upstairs upstairs at the

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 2>house that I stayed in during college, and I just

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 2>turned upstairs to this blue I call it the Blue Room,

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 2>but it was just my studio and have my pro

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 2>tools rigged.

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Mike.

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 2>That was what I did with my first check, was

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 2>bought everything I needed.

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Question. I wanted to know what she did with that check.

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what blew.

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I bought a car too. I bought a ooh that

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.439
<v Speaker 2>thing was cold. I bought the first car I bought

0:35:55.480 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 2>myself was a BMW three thirty c I I see.

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 2>So I had the convertible and it was this you

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.839
<v Speaker 2>probably remember you explain it, okay, But it was this

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 2>graphite color that looked one way when you look at

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:15.320
<v Speaker 2>one angle, and then looked a different way when it

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 2>looked a different angle.

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 2>It was that it was it was it was like

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 2>a purply gray, you know, like a periwinkle kind of

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 2>dolphin gray. Yeah, it depends on how it was. Everything

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 2>in the gray spectrum with a little purple in it,

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 2>a little.

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.919
<v Speaker 1>You still feel good about.

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I loved I loved that car.

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 3>But did you have a publishing?

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I waited almost a decade to do a publishing just

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 2>about not really, I went a decade. I don't remember

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>what year I did that, but I know it was

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of offers for a long time. It was

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:57.439
<v Speaker 2>at least maybe could have been from the moment from

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 2>the first check to the time when I it was

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 2>about that maybe eight or nine years.

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 3>I waited.

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I waited, I stacked up. I had singles on the radio,

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 2>stacked up. I was like, because everybody kept saying, you know,

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 2>there was this thing about having records in the pipeline

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 2>and that's when publishing companies are interested in you. I

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:19.359
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, let me see what they do. When

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I got them on the radio, I just felt like that,

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like I was smart move.

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 3>She also had the cheat code too, though, what was

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 3>the chica who was in? You know what I mean?

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.280
<v Speaker 3>Like that whole.

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Way I know, Paulo introduced me to Ethiopia when I

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 2>was my artists stuff. Yes, yes, so I ended up there,

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 2>but no, I turned down a whole lot. We ain't

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna name them, name, no names, but all the like

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.399
<v Speaker 2>heavy heavy ones, heavy ones, heavy one.

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Once you get records, Once you get records on albums

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 3>are singles out, every single publisher is coming coming.

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah there, and they are, And a lot of it

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 2>was laughable because at that point, like I knew, you

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>remember the Donald Passman book All you need to Know

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>about the music business, and like between that and the

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 2>relationships that I had cultivated over there was over those

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 2>years like I would ask questions, I would research, I

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 2>would look it up, I would you know what I mean?

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I knew I wanted to be really, really wise with

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 2>these permanent decisions because I knew what a deal blowing

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 2>up looked like, you know what I mean? So I

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be there again.

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:32.800
<v Speaker 1>So when do you get to polo? When do I

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:34.240
<v Speaker 1>get how does that happen?

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 2>I was a writer. I remember passing him at some

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 2>session I was doing. I think he was leaving and

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 2>I was coming, or I was leaving and no, I

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 2>was leaving and he was coming. We passed each other

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 2>in the front. He was like, hey, a little Birdie

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 2>told me you would dope and I said, okay, so

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I was leaving and he Our group

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 2>ended up up performing at this stadium at the same

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 2>our group and his group, Jim Crumb, I.

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Got you remember Jim Crubb.

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So then we got to know each other. I

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 2>can't remember which order this happened. I think it was

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Bertie told me you're dope first, and then or at

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 2>someble I don't know, maybe the group performance happened. I

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 2>don't know. It's all you know, y'all know how'd be.

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 2>But those two events happened. And so this is how

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I knew Polo because I think I remember going outside

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 2>that session. I want to say, the conversation engaged like

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I was just at first, I was like, oh, okay,

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 2>that's you know, that's nice. I didn't know really what

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 2>whire who, but he had an idea and he walked

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 2>outside with me, or walked me to my car, I think,

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and was like like he made it like he was

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 2>working with Timbaland on something, right. I didn't really believe him,

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 2>but that was it. And then I was working one

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 2>night with Donnie Skantz, Donny's scant Scantleberry, Yeah, d scance.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 2>So he we did a lot of we actually were

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 2>about to do it prop. We were doing kind of

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 2>like an alternative. We had a whole round of like

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:18.720
<v Speaker 2>some really dope live stuff. We performed it randomly once,

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I think. But anyway, so we were working and so

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 2>one night he asked me, and he's like, if somebody

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 2>were who would you want to be with as an

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 2>artist if you were thinking, because they both everybody at

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 2>that point knew that I wasn't vocal about pursuing the

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 2>artist thing. Carrie is a songwriter, she's an arranger, she's

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 2>producing your vocals, she's engineering your session, she's doing the

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 2>rough mix, she's you know what I mean. That's how

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 2>that was everyone's awareness of me. So this guy says,

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 2>whichever one it was, Polo or Donnie, says, if you

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 2>were an artist, who do you think would get your music?

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.839
<v Speaker 2>And I say Timbaland hands down.

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 3>You never met Tim.

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I never met him, And it wasn't long before somebody

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 2>made Timbleland aware of me. I meet with him at

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 2>a hotel. It's early morning. I was fresh off vacation.

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 2>I had these like dread things like these locks in

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:22.320
<v Speaker 2>my hair. Vacation hair. Yes, exactly.

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:24.359
<v Speaker 3>You girls never want to go on vacation with your

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 3>with your every day hair. Go ahead, girls, take in

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:30.959
<v Speaker 3>your vacation bid.

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 2>And at that same studio loft that we you and

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:41.839
<v Speaker 2>I worked in, and I had just gone to bed.

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I had just gone to bed. This is that thing

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 2>about being ready, being prepared. I had just gone to

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 2>bed at like six or seven in the morning. So

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised that I even answered the phone call. Normally

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 2>after a session when I'm what I'm done, especially if

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 2>it's we're getting in, I got in in the morning.

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 2>I just happened to answer the phone, like just in

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 2>case something was wrong, and it was. I was finishing

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:06.720
<v Speaker 2>up a record with Pope. I think it was Pimpan

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 2>all Over the World. I remember doing that song at

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 2>the student studio. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure. I know

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 2>we did that song at that studio and I didn't

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 2>work it was I'm pretty sure it was that same day,

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 2>and because we did Pimpan all the World Runaway Love

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 2>during the same session, yeah, at the same spot. So

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 2>we had just gone to bed, and I'm just thinking

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:36.800
<v Speaker 2>he just want to say something like I had literally

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 2>just hopped in again. It's like I would say about seven, Hey, hey,

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 2>Timbaland is in town and he wants to meet you.

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I say. When he said like nine nine thirty, I

0:42:55.480 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 2>was like, I haven't been to bed. Okay, all right,

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.840
<v Speaker 2>well this is it. So instead of going to sleep,

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I go upstairs. I put together a demo, printed the

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 2>song titles, and then I put the sticker on the CD. Like, well,

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I had never thought it had been years kind of

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 2>since I had pursued being an artist or even said

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 2>it to anybody, you know what I mean. Yeah, but

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:27.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do that, you know what I mean. So

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I put together a CD of I guess maybe I

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 2>think I had four songs on each side, so probably

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 2>eight songs. And then I got dressed, went to the

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 2>hotel and played songs that I've written for other people

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 2>that I was like, I guess if I were an artist,

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 2>this is what I would sound like. Let me try

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>to make this cohesive and put them in the water

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 2>sequence it like it's a project, like you know. So

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 2>that's what I did, and what he said, bounce records down.

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Tim said, oh I know what to do with this.

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I know what to do with this, so he says,

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 2>and I played on records. There was one record that

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.919
<v Speaker 2>he really liked, and he said, that's your crimea River.

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:32.879
<v Speaker 2>And I said, shit, shit, yeah this yeah, and it was.

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 2>It was a song I did with Dan Donnie called

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Strange Angel, and it was alternative sounding, but it had

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 2>enough of a cadence that I knew exactly what tim.

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh shit, I could hear that.

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 3>I can hear that.

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, so he says those two things that I'll

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 2>never forget. I know what to do with you. I

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 2>know what to do with this meaning this meaning you right,

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 2>And then that's your crimea River. I'm like, God, damn,

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I manifested this ship. I didn't even know that word

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 2>back then. I didn't say that, but I was like,

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:10.720
<v Speaker 2>that was one of my first awarenesses of God because

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 2>I spoke that. I spoke that someone maybe a year

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 2>or whatever before. It's like, if you could be with

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.399
<v Speaker 2>one producer. And I remember really giving it some thought

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 2>because there were listen, I'm a Babyface fan, you know

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. It was a lot of people I

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>could have chosen from Teddy Riley, it was a lot

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:32.280
<v Speaker 2>of people that I really appreciated who were you know? Producing?

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 2>And I landed on Timbaland after giving that some real

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a quick conversation. It was like I don't

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 2>like to answer things inauthentically, so but I landed with

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Timbland and then he's like, hey, so, what are you

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 2>doing tonight? I was like, I had sessions, but I

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 2>said nothing.

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Call everyone telling my mon available.

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I said nothing, and in the back of my head

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, in the back of my mind,

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you asking me when I'm doing It's

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 2>not a damn thing. Nothing is going to be more

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 2>important than whatever the fuck you're about to Ask me.

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Wh're about you want to do? Yea, And so he

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 2>said can you come to Miami? I was like, oh,

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:26.919
<v Speaker 2>I didn't expect that talk.

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:34.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, what I was doing wasn't here somewhere else? Yeah?

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Are you ready? Are you ready to go? He gets

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:36.839
<v Speaker 1>you back.

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:40.760
<v Speaker 2>The flight was at three o'clock.

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I love it. It's high level.

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I love it was that three o'clock.

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Are you are you ready? You say, I know you

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:49.760
<v Speaker 1>got ready, yeah to come over here, but are you ready?

0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? You go to Miami?

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 2>And I was ready that day. I go that day,

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:55.280
<v Speaker 2>hours after.

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:56.959
<v Speaker 3>The meeting, right, and you still ain't slept.

0:46:56.840 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Still ain't slept. And went straight to the studio and

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 2>we worked on that record. And I stayed at his house.

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Did I say his house? I can't remember the first trip.

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 2>I think so. I mean, this house is so damn big.

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 2>It was like being in a hotel room. Yeah, I

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 2>think so, because it wasn't any time to think. It

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 2>was at his house. It was cold as hell. God

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:23.399
<v Speaker 2>Tim mused to keep his house so cold. I bet

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:27.439
<v Speaker 2>he still does. It was miserable. I was miserable. But

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 2>but but I was on such a cloud nine. We

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.279
<v Speaker 2>went straight in and worked on that record that I

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 2>had just laid.

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 3>It's fine, So I'm just gonna be in here.

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Telling other people.

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 1>He's got to ask.

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 2>But immediately it was like this brother sister. You know

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 2>how you just meet people and you just know we

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 2>were meant to create something to get.

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 1>It was that and that the like you're locking with Tim.

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:07.879
<v Speaker 1>You got the writing going on with Polo, and once

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you meet Tim, I'm sure you're anticipating that it's time.

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 3>It's real.

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm getting what you waiting for. The artist that

0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I've always known I was going to be first time.

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Does that happen immediately or is there some time? And

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe some frustration in oh.

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 3>About what.

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 2>I would say?

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Mind you? First, second night I was in Miami. We

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:46.840
<v Speaker 2>were offered a million dollar deal. What's his name? That

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 2>was at Atlantic, Peter Edge, he was there doing some

0:48:53.120 --> 0:49:00.040
<v Speaker 2>things with Tim was working on some Brandy joints And

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:06.640
<v Speaker 2>was it Peter Edge? No? Atlantic? What is.

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:15.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember who it was. Someone there for the

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 2>flying in just for the day, heard what we were doing.

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:21.680
<v Speaker 2>He was at Atlantic and he was over Brandy's project.

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 2>So we'll figure out who that is later. Sorry, I'm sorry.

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I've lived a lot of lots and I hate that

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember that, but a million dollars deal first

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 2>or second night? Like Tim hid me, He hid me

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 2>in the room. He didn't want, you know, but the

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 2>guy had already heard what we were doing. He didn't

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why he reacted this way, but he

0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 2>was like staying there, literally staying. I was in the

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.360
<v Speaker 2>lounge area. And maybe because we weren't supposed to be

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 2>working on anything else other than the Brandy stuff, like

0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:55.719
<v Speaker 2>he probably was like, yeah, I don't want them to

0:49:55.760 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 2>think that, but it was Tim's studio. They probably exactly exactly.

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 2>It's probably supposed to be mixing or yeah, yeah, but

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:06.799
<v Speaker 2>that ain't what we were doing.

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:09.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously you've been a songwriter and you've been

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 3>making money. Had you made a million dollars yet? No,

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:14.879
<v Speaker 3>because you hadn't done no publishing deal yet either.

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 2>No, So no, I don't think you had chunk of

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:20.759
<v Speaker 2>money like that, right, chunks of like.

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pieces forty and fifties, yeah, a couple sixty five yeah, yeah.

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:29.359
<v Speaker 3>But that's what I'm saying. So to hear that, even

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 3>that number, and now obviously the new artists, now, you know,

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 3>you hear these astronomical things off of you know, the

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:40.359
<v Speaker 3>analytics of how many streams they and whatever they got

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 3>going on? Now where they getting these stupid deals that

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 3>they'll never pay back. But you've been in the game

0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:49.960
<v Speaker 3>that long to finally hear that number, that number used

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 3>to be really real number. It will wake you up.

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it won't wait.

0:50:55.360 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 3>They won't give me what a million dollars doing your

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 3>doctor immediately? You know, it was different, It was different.

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:09.760
<v Speaker 2>It was and I was impressed. I was just happy.

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I just knew I had some work to do because

0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have any songs as an artist, really, Like

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:15.279
<v Speaker 2>some of the records I played were things I had

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:18.400
<v Speaker 2>already played, you know what I mean, maybe one or

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 2>two of them. But I just didn't know, really I had.

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 2>It had been years since I had even thought about

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:31.440
<v Speaker 2>what kind of artists I would. I lost sight. It

0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 2>wasn't that I didn't believe, because I still knew that

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 2>it would happen. But I was just fully immersed in

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 2>songwriting that I or so fully, so fully. Let me

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 2>tell you something about this lip loss. It makes it's sticky,

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 2>it makes you talk funny. Okay, oh my god, Jesus,

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:58.840
<v Speaker 2>so fully immersed. I was fully immersed in songwriting, so

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:02.880
<v Speaker 2>fully immersed that I couldn't think. I didn't give myself.

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:04.319
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have the bandwidth, so I had to figure

0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:06.840
<v Speaker 2>it out. But I got timbling. So that's yeah, I

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 2>got timbling, now, you know what I mean. And so

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Tim and Polo are talking about doing a joint venture,

0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:14.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, that's a pretty good combo, even though

0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:16.560
<v Speaker 2>at the time I didn't really believe in Polo that much.

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:18.800
<v Speaker 2>It was really Tim was the draw, you know what

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying Polo was cool. He was figuring it out.

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 2>His levels were real weird to me, you know, can

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:29.880
<v Speaker 2>we like eq that and like what it was? His

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.759
<v Speaker 2>tracks were messy, but they had potentially because he had umph.

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Polo had a certain, a certain he was going to

0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:39.720
<v Speaker 2>sell that.

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:45.280
<v Speaker 3>What you sell it the jump producer executive. He gonna

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:49.799
<v Speaker 3>make you believe in anything, y'all. Don't get it. You crazy, y'all,

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 3>don't get it.

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 2>You're crazy here.

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, go to the basic level that that is

0:52:55.680 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 3>needed in this industry.

0:52:57.480 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 1>It's needed.

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:01.800
<v Speaker 3>I said all the time. You gotta have that because

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 3>you can have something great in front.

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Of you college factor, Dame.

0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Dash you know what I mean. You can have all

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:10.960
<v Speaker 3>of those things. You can have the great artists you can,

0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 3>but someone who can sell it to people true, Don

0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 3>kingtt Don.

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 2>King absolutely for sure.

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Really you know what I mean.

0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 2>He's not gonna be the mouth.

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know what's now for you?

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Now it's back to music.

0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:36.799
<v Speaker 1>You really, I love this.

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 2>That's all that's left to do.

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:41.840
<v Speaker 3>This like you locked in fully, locked into this.

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Finished, I'm not finished. I'm not finished.

0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 3>Mother.

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:49.360
<v Speaker 1>The music.

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 3>I love him, It's needed.

0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 2>It took a second in a second, a lot of

0:53:55.200 --> 0:54:00.040
<v Speaker 2>things happened that that prevented it. I blame it on

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 2>one thing, but really it was years of a struggle. Amen,

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 2>you got through that. I thought through that.

0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:10.040
<v Speaker 3>I thought through that.

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:14.440
<v Speaker 2>But I'm free and I'm ready. You just can't, you know,

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.880
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you can't create with burdens, with with with a

0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 2>dark cloud, under duress, under duress, you can try.

0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but.

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Creativity, I think, and I feel closest to God when

0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm creating.

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 1>A my my my mind.

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Come on, Bishop, Okay, come on, Ain't that that's that's

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:40.080
<v Speaker 3>what they.

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Say, right, And that is supposed to be a burdenless space.

0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:47.319
<v Speaker 2>It should be, it should be, that is supposed to

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 2>be full freedom. I'm a channel in this moment. I'm

0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 2>a vessel. I need to listen, I need to hear.

0:54:55.280 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 2>But there was so much stress, depression, division amongst my team,

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:08.560
<v Speaker 2>everything just just I mean, one thing after next, like

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 2>so much. It just couldn't. It just couldn't. And then

0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 2>my dad died, and then it really couldn't because that

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:18.840
<v Speaker 2>was my that was that was it was my dude.

0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:28.759
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but here we are back. I feel and

0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:30.840
<v Speaker 2>it's got to feel. It's gotta when you have the

0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:33.280
<v Speaker 2>freedom too, when you're not having to wh're not struggling,

0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to force things out and throw things out,

0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:39.120
<v Speaker 2>and you can take your time and make sure it's

0:55:39.120 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 2>what you want to present in that I'm I got.

0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I played it for someone the other day, like someone,

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:53.720
<v Speaker 2>someone who, someone who knows, who really really knows, who's

0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:56.879
<v Speaker 2>been doing, who's been on top for a very long time. Yeah,

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 2>he called my music tall and mighty, m tall and might,

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:11.279
<v Speaker 2>he said, I think I wrote it down. I wrote

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:13.440
<v Speaker 2>it all down because it was like I was liked

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:16.440
<v Speaker 2>and you get these you know, I've had moments like that.

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:18.439
<v Speaker 2>I knew, I knew, I knew what I was doing

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 2>was if you got how much longer are you guys

0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 2>in town.

0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:28.239
<v Speaker 3>Long enough to hear it? That's all that mattered, But

0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 3>how long we're here?

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm trying to see if you're gonna be here

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:36.239
<v Speaker 2>when I get back, you get back Sunday, I leave

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 2>for Tonight's we're back Sunday. I was wondering if you

0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 2>guys will still be here anyway. I would love to play,

0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:44.880
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, there are moments when you get this and

0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.920
<v Speaker 2>this was like yeah, so anyway, I feel like We're

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 2>starting to take meetings to figure out where we how

0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.239
<v Speaker 2>we want to do this thing, where we want to do.

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:53.520
<v Speaker 1>This got and lifted offering.

0:56:53.600 --> 0:57:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Man, go ahead with some right here. I don't have cash.

0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:04.959
<v Speaker 2>Can I venmo in church?

0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:07.880
<v Speaker 3>This for y'all? This you know, I mean that for y'all.

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Just lifted in church, just praise and worship.

0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Listen. Now we can talk about God. We can go

0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:14.799
<v Speaker 2>there too.

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah mm hmm.

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:25.280
<v Speaker 2>He'll let you know. He'll let You'll make it real obvious.

0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 2>God'll let you know. If you ask, he'll let you know.

0:57:30.960 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 2>He wants you to know.

0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:37.320
<v Speaker 3>We want to know something to them. What who would

0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 3>we like to know? Top five?

0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Your top five? Yes, top five, you're top, come

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:06.400
<v Speaker 1>on anything. All the songs.

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you got to go.

0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:15.360
<v Speaker 3>You got to show. You got to doll your.

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:34.400
<v Speaker 4>Top Yeah right, yeah, your tip.

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:44.240
<v Speaker 3>All right?

0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 1>That boy good? Carrie Willson. Yes, your top five R

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and B singers.

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson, gotta be in that thing.

0:58:57.120 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Michael.

0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm an eighties baby.

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:00.560
<v Speaker 1>You like Big Mike?

0:59:00.600 --> 0:59:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Which one?

0:59:00.880 --> 0:59:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Which one you want? All Mike?

0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Mike, Mike all the time, all the time.

0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mm hmm hmm. Mariah Carrey is in there, I think,

0:59:13.120 --> 0:59:18.800
<v Speaker 2>because I'm talking. If we're talking mine, this is carry

0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:23.280
<v Speaker 2>you list who matters to you?

0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Little car?

0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Who mattered to who raised?

0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:27.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 2>It was I wrote it, I wrote, I wrote, I

0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:31.560
<v Speaker 2>wrote a letter to go to camp.

0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:32.040
<v Speaker 3>Mariah.

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, yes I did. I was really young. No,

0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:40.280
<v Speaker 2>we moved. Mom said she mailed it. We moved and

0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:41.439
<v Speaker 2>I found the fucking letter.

0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 3>I was so mad she didn't mail it.

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 2>She didn't mail it, she didn't send it off. I

0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:48.439
<v Speaker 2>had a real good shot, you know, I'm a writer,

0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:49.240
<v Speaker 2>like you know.

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I wrote, Yes, the.

1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I found it in the door of the death like betrayal, betrayal,

1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:18.320
<v Speaker 2>how you rolling mom my first dose? All right, So Michael, Mariah,

1:00:18.880 --> 1:00:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Lauren Hill would be in that Lauren, Lauren's in there

1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:25.480
<v Speaker 2>for sure? Who I say, Mike, Mariah, Bobby Brown.

1:00:25.840 --> 1:00:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, Bobby up there around Bobby.

1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:38.080
<v Speaker 2>And I said, Lauren Hill was that for I'm gonna

1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:40.400
<v Speaker 2>give it to you. I'm gonna give you the fifth loot.

1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:43.479
<v Speaker 3>Boy boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay. When Jay told that story, when I said

1:00:47.880 --> 1:00:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm a huge tank, that was real. Like Polo asked

1:00:51.520 --> 1:00:54.080
<v Speaker 2>me to stop saying your name and interviews when they

1:00:54.080 --> 1:00:56.640
<v Speaker 2>were asking me my musical influences are people that I

1:00:56.680 --> 1:01:00.800
<v Speaker 2>was inspired by, Like he's to ask me to stop

1:01:00.840 --> 1:01:04.439
<v Speaker 2>saying Tank. Yes, Yes, that's what he did.

1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:13.520
<v Speaker 1>That's what he did. We gotta talk, man, it's too much,

1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:15.000
<v Speaker 1>too much. Take it's too much.

1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Bobby, I don't know why. I don't know, but

1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I would.

1:01:21.680 --> 1:01:26.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, Top five R and B songs because

1:01:26.080 --> 1:01:26.880
<v Speaker 1>we know you're a writer.

1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:28.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, we know what you do.

1:01:28.920 --> 1:01:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, rock with you? Yeah, up, rock with you. Yeah,

1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give it to rock with you. No, not

1:01:37.560 --> 1:01:41.280
<v Speaker 2>that one. Not even want to rock with you.

1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:51.240
<v Speaker 5>Not just to a too for those because you can

1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:52.680
<v Speaker 5>kind of get both of them off.

1:01:52.920 --> 1:01:55.360
<v Speaker 3>You said the title, it could be the Bobby all

1:01:55.440 --> 1:01:59.280
<v Speaker 3>the m J. But rock with You by Bobby Browns

1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:02.600
<v Speaker 3>is so cool. It is.

1:02:03.400 --> 1:02:05.280
<v Speaker 1>It's a cultural.

1:02:04.920 --> 1:02:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, it's a it's a feeling you feel good

1:02:10.240 --> 1:02:10.919
<v Speaker 3>when you hear that.

1:02:11.240 --> 1:02:14.760
<v Speaker 2>You do, who don't, who don't? And it was a

1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:16.600
<v Speaker 2>toss up between that and Ronnie, but I think I

1:02:16.600 --> 1:02:22.959
<v Speaker 2>would give it to it was it was a toss

1:02:23.040 --> 1:02:26.320
<v Speaker 2>up in my mind, like which one? But it's a

1:02:26.320 --> 1:02:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Bobby one on there for sure. I'm talking all time.

1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:30.240
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to do top.

1:02:30.840 --> 1:02:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Somewhere up there when you mentioned the the top ever

1:02:35.960 --> 1:02:38.919
<v Speaker 3>debut R and B album, because that wasn't he would

1:02:38.960 --> 1:02:41.280
<v Speaker 3>have it in the group. But I'm talking about strong

1:02:42.320 --> 1:02:44.720
<v Speaker 3>easy facts, facts, my prerogative.

1:02:44.960 --> 1:02:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Easy facts.

1:02:46.360 --> 1:02:48.960
<v Speaker 3>You can put that up against anything. You put that

1:02:49.000 --> 1:02:51.560
<v Speaker 3>album up against anything.

1:02:51.120 --> 1:02:55.480
<v Speaker 2>That's very breaking my heart, pretty bad eyes. That's a

1:02:55.520 --> 1:02:58.160
<v Speaker 2>strong one, because that's like that was kind of the

1:02:58.200 --> 1:03:02.240
<v Speaker 2>eraror where you started to hear live music, you know,

1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:04.040
<v Speaker 2>and not everything wasn't.

1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Programmed, started to hear.

1:03:05.720 --> 1:03:09.760
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I guess I don't know it just band

1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:15.600
<v Speaker 2>his voice is gonna cut through. Ready you're not? Yeah,

1:03:16.800 --> 1:03:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you what come on, Kevin and mad Yes,

1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:33.840
<v Speaker 2>oh come on, I started, I started?

1:03:34.120 --> 1:03:45.440
<v Speaker 5>What was it it was? It was like, yeah, it's

1:03:45.480 --> 1:03:51.400
<v Speaker 5>like when the first time I saw him singing that

1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:52.800
<v Speaker 5>loud with the punch him in his face.

1:03:53.120 --> 1:03:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Wow, you can't be Yeah, I do that okay.

1:03:59.040 --> 1:04:01.520
<v Speaker 3>In full chat. I can get that off in falls

1:04:02.120 --> 1:04:05.120
<v Speaker 3>full chance. I can't get that off it. Just he's

1:04:05.120 --> 1:04:08.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna do it every night, every night, every day.

1:04:09.000 --> 1:04:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Man, this is tough. All right. This was definitely going

1:04:11.880 --> 1:04:17.440
<v Speaker 2>in there. Don't stop the music. People's in Yarborough. I

1:04:17.480 --> 1:04:19.120
<v Speaker 2>don't know why it's people. I thought it was Yarbor

1:04:19.240 --> 1:04:35.440
<v Speaker 2>and people's. But anyway, that baseline and her voice. I

1:04:35.520 --> 1:04:36.280
<v Speaker 2>got four more.

1:04:36.840 --> 1:04:38.280
<v Speaker 3>Come on?

1:04:38.320 --> 1:04:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Can I just throw them out there? Atlantic Star always girl,

1:04:41.960 --> 1:04:49.560
<v Speaker 2>you are me? Oh that should be and I dedicated

1:04:50.640 --> 1:04:53.720
<v Speaker 2>to you.

1:04:53.840 --> 1:04:54.920
<v Speaker 1>That's enough.

1:04:58.440 --> 1:05:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Nothing even matters. Ah, It's one of my ones. As

1:05:04.680 --> 1:05:08.640
<v Speaker 2>soon as I get home, Faith Evans, Yes, thank.

1:05:08.480 --> 1:05:11.440
<v Speaker 3>You, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm giving.

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<v Speaker 3>I get mad at people if they don't know that song.

1:05:15.120 --> 1:05:17.720
<v Speaker 3>What I've been mad at some people that you don't

1:05:17.840 --> 1:05:21.720
<v Speaker 3>know this song. I played it for an adult who

1:05:21.760 --> 1:05:23.800
<v Speaker 3>didn't know it, and it was like, wait, wait, wait.

1:05:23.680 --> 1:05:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Wait way I got I got Faith Evans as a gift.

1:05:29.160 --> 1:05:30.840
<v Speaker 1>The girl at the time knew how much I love

1:05:30.880 --> 1:05:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Faith and got me the cossette as a gift.

1:05:34.240 --> 1:05:35.680
<v Speaker 3>We need you on the podcast.

1:05:35.320 --> 1:05:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Faith Please love her, love her and computer love.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on with Charlie.

1:05:46.400 --> 1:05:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, insane fact, we got something else for you. We're

1:05:53.280 --> 1:05:55.400
<v Speaker 3>not just gonna let you go out of here without

1:05:55.440 --> 1:05:59.919
<v Speaker 3>this right now? Huh what you got saying? Saying? No?

1:06:00.720 --> 1:06:03.439
<v Speaker 1>I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.

1:06:03.520 --> 1:06:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Where you was what you did?

1:06:08.080 --> 1:06:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Don't say? I ain't saying no name.

1:06:19.280 --> 1:06:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Huh oh, we got carry he'llson hot in the hot seate.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I don't like I don't like y'all all that.

1:06:32.080 --> 1:06:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't like your games.

1:06:33.560 --> 1:06:35.080
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Because you know this is

1:06:35.200 --> 1:06:39.040
<v Speaker 3>this segment is important. I ain't saying no names thing.

1:06:39.560 --> 1:06:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I gotta find a story in my head that people

1:06:43.120 --> 1:06:44.480
<v Speaker 2>can't link to.

1:06:45.240 --> 1:06:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Man, listen, it's this up to you. It's your story.

1:06:47.680 --> 1:06:51.600
<v Speaker 3>But you gotta tell us a story because you hear

1:06:51.680 --> 1:06:53.560
<v Speaker 3>and this is I ain't saying no names. Will you

1:06:53.600 --> 1:06:56.840
<v Speaker 3>tell us a story funny or fucked up? Are funny

1:06:56.920 --> 1:06:59.520
<v Speaker 3>and fucked up? The only rule to the game is

1:06:59.560 --> 1:07:03.000
<v Speaker 3>that you can ain't say no names funny. And you've

1:07:03.040 --> 1:07:05.880
<v Speaker 3>had trivos in this game. You've been in this thing.

1:07:06.440 --> 1:07:08.000
<v Speaker 3>He was on the shelf for five years. Ship that

1:07:08.000 --> 1:07:11.240
<v Speaker 3>could have happen when I was on the shelf, when

1:07:11.240 --> 1:07:13.560
<v Speaker 3>you was off the shelf. You know what, what what

1:07:13.760 --> 1:07:15.920
<v Speaker 3>little Lillo say, Rit me off the plastic and make

1:07:15.960 --> 1:07:18.360
<v Speaker 3>a brand new Yeah, when you got off the shelf too,

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<v Speaker 3>you know yeah, you know you know that no boys allowed?

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<v Speaker 3>You know you know what I mean? When you were

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<v Speaker 3>you weren't playing with little boys. You told them, ain't

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<v Speaker 3>no boys allowed around here playing No little boy, little

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<v Speaker 3>last boy as a boy, I'm not playing you made

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<v Speaker 3>you had chains and ship. I remember you was selling chains.

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<v Speaker 2>People still show up with their no boys allowed chain

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<v Speaker 2>to my current merch, the old merch on merch. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>that's like what thirteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>M Let me know your eddy, Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me bring you on and ship, Let me bring

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<v Speaker 3>you on in. This is this is, this is Carrie Hoiston.

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<v Speaker 3>You're turning me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Knock it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Ain't no boys allowed you to come in here as

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<v Speaker 3>a motherfucking grown ass man.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty pretty good around here, because.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, carry I ain't saying no names. Oh yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>deep side and took a sip of water too.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. When you're a performer, yes, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>know how important it is to give love to other performers. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you happened to be sitting on the front

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<v Speaker 2>row at their show. M okay, mind you, no one else,

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<v Speaker 2>no one else was performing. Was anybody else performing that night?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what night I'm even referring to?

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<v Speaker 3>Yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's fine, all right, fine for him too, Yes

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<v Speaker 2>he was there. Okay, So I remember I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be here energy. M M, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here. She was with a gentleman, he was she

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<v Speaker 2>was his guest. I know the guy very well. She

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<v Speaker 2>was with him, so she was his you know. She

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be there. It was very obvious, and

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<v Speaker 2>I felt disrespected by that. So when they came to

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<v Speaker 2>my dressing room backstage, I said something and we almost

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<v Speaker 2>got to scrapping. My decatur came out, her town came out,

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<v Speaker 2>uh and uh. It could have got real ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you being in the front row on my

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<v Speaker 1>show and giving me no energy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember exactly how I said it, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was worse than that. It was, but it was that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was that it was like we spell artists. You

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<v Speaker 2>already know what it's like. You could give a courtesy, Bob.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of things you can do, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things you can do to show to show love.

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<v Speaker 2>But she was this.

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<v Speaker 3>Mmm damn in the front row.

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<v Speaker 2>She was that business, looking at the nasty business, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt on her phone, Oh, while everybody else

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<v Speaker 2>is standing up around here, I was just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is intentionally rude, Like you you want to get slapped.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I felt you've you're calling me, you're speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to a certain spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you doubted.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I I've always been secular.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they have those rocks?

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<v Speaker 2>She doted up on them?

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<v Speaker 3>They got those rocks?

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<v Speaker 2>It up, that's why. That's why I got the gyms.

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<v Speaker 2>Now keep it, keep it on. Keep just why I got.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly why we haven't because this is on me, now, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>But it almost went there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like people had to be ushered away, people had

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<v Speaker 2>to be it was. It was that because I had

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<v Speaker 2>to say something. I had to say something. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what the it was because I felt

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<v Speaker 2>disrespect the whole show. Come on, man, come on, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that unless you want, unless you are purposely

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. So now you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>And who remember? You don't remember who it was? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's pretty insignificant at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>And well yeah, Carrie, uh, but I ain't say you

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<v Speaker 1>ain't saying he saying no name. We appreciate you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you have you have put in a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of amazing work, a lot of amazing and from

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<v Speaker 1>what it sounds like, you have more amazing work to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Being so, we are anticipating more greatness from you. You're dope.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about it inside man. Thank you, appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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