1
00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,000
Speaker 1: R and B Money.

2
00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,120
Speaker 2: We are.

3
00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:13,920
Speaker 1: Thank take out the child. We are the authority on

4
00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,640
Speaker 1: all R.

5
00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:16,280
Speaker 3: And B.

6
00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,040
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. My name is TANKI. This is the

7
00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:28,240
Speaker 1: R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all things

8
00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,320
Speaker 1: R n B. Yeah. Oh, it's getting sexy today. What

9
00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,640
Speaker 1: this is? It's getting warm, it's getting interesting. You know,

10
00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,800
Speaker 1: there's brains, there's beauty. Yeah, there's a gift. There's skill,

11
00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:48,880
Speaker 1: real vocals, real vocals, all wrapped up in real awesome package.

12
00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,240
Speaker 1: Let's not waste any time on this, Ladies and Gentlemen.

13
00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,640
Speaker 1: Makes no noise from miss carry Hill stand.

14
00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

15
00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how to sing miscarry baby thing that.

16
00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't have. Come on, come on, come on, I

17
00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,720
Speaker 1: always see come on, I don't.

18
00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,280
Speaker 2: Know how to sing them. Come on, it's weird, come on,

19
00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:17,520
Speaker 2: excinitely weird. Now, there was a ten second grade series.

20
00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,920
Speaker 1: Okay nothing.

21
00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:23,800
Speaker 2: Life.

22
00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. That's how you're feeling.

23
00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,240
Speaker 1: You're feeling like light and love. You want some grand

24
00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:31,440
Speaker 1: rise and ship right now.

25
00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:41,480
Speaker 3: I am. Oh my gosh, oh get away from me.

26
00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,199
Speaker 1: You an't even God.

27
00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,000
Speaker 2: Damn rocks things, Crystal, Crystal.

28
00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,880
Speaker 3: I'll see where this ship going, all right, Christmas and

29
00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,520
Speaker 3: tarot card terms ship?

30
00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,800
Speaker 1: How far you going? You got some Christmas?

31
00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,480
Speaker 2: Have an altar? Okay?

32
00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,600
Speaker 1: You know? And you know what every crystal does you you?

33
00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what they do. Sometimes I have, Yes,

34
00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,760
Speaker 2: I charged them, Yes, under the full moon can be

35
00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,799
Speaker 2: charged with water with the sun. I charged my car

36
00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,720
Speaker 2: different things. You charge your car, Jay.

37
00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:23,600
Speaker 3: Get about three twenty five to three fifty. Yeah, I

38
00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,120
Speaker 3: mean it's nice size battery.

39
00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:27,600
Speaker 2: Do you charge your body?

40
00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,040
Speaker 3: Do you do?

41
00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,680
Speaker 2: You ground that at your feet?

42
00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,360
Speaker 1: Ever since I met everything, since we had we put

43
00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,320
Speaker 1: our feet on the ground.

44
00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,760
Speaker 2: All right, thank you Eric bene these young pavement because.

45
00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm a timbling kind of you know what I'm saying.

46
00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,440
Speaker 1: That's just where I feel like you got to wear

47
00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,359
Speaker 1: your timbling boots all time. Oh your funk what you're doing?

48
00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,519
Speaker 1: Remember you you've come on that the snow socks.

49
00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,120
Speaker 2: So I'm asing it impeded the so I get my

50
00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,960
Speaker 2: I get a little danceability you had already it impeded.

51
00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,760
Speaker 2: But maybe it was the times all over.

52
00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,200
Speaker 1: This is the talk about was the hell of a dancer?

53
00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,880
Speaker 1: Let's start there. I wasn't Chris Brown. Okay, that was

54
00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,680
Speaker 1: maybe his cousin Nick Brown. But I wasn't Chris Brown

55
00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,919
Speaker 1: should put that in the crayon Brown is nigga Brown?

56
00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,760
Speaker 2: My god, it would be a whole box though Okay.

57
00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,560
Speaker 1: It's so many that'd be a hell of rainbow.

58
00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,280
Speaker 2: Brown would have to be a whole box of crowns.

59
00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,200
Speaker 1: First of all, that was nice with the dance. I

60
00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,960
Speaker 1: was nice with the choreography. My improv was a little

61
00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,000
Speaker 1: little little questionable.

62
00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,200
Speaker 2: All right, but I'll give you that.

63
00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,720
Speaker 1: You my chore thank you. My choreography was right?

64
00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:50,200
Speaker 3: Did it?

65
00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:50,720
Speaker 1: Thank you?

66
00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,880
Speaker 2: You had you had it?

67
00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,480
Speaker 3: Do you have some of them christals on you so

68
00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,000
Speaker 3: I can meditate why this nigga over here talking ship?

69
00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,200
Speaker 1: First of all, I got a lot of I got

70
00:03:59,200 --> 00:03:59,680
Speaker 1: a lot of.

71
00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,200
Speaker 3: You know, y'all make sure y'all google the Freaky video,

72
00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:02,840
Speaker 3: please and.

73
00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,800
Speaker 1: Google and google You're my Star video, which I did

74
00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,600
Speaker 1: really well in. You had said so yourself, I did.

75
00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,360
Speaker 1: I had to give it up. So you're not the

76
00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,960
Speaker 1: only one who dances Carrie.

77
00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,480
Speaker 2: I actually don't, no, I mean, I've never considered my

78
00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,160
Speaker 2: It's just when you brought up the boots, it.

79
00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,480
Speaker 1: Was the timberling boots because I flipped thatause I did

80
00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,719
Speaker 1: the back flip in the boots.

81
00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,760
Speaker 2: You know, that's impressive.

82
00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,400
Speaker 1: If you notice that I did the Summer Salt in

83
00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,240
Speaker 1: the boots.

84
00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,400
Speaker 3: No hands, impressive or just nasty business and out here.

85
00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,200
Speaker 1: Flipping n That's just where I'm from. From that it's

86
00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:52,080
Speaker 1: just out of pocket. Out of pocket. Anyway, Thank you

87
00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,120
Speaker 1: Carrie for for hanging out with us. I mean we've

88
00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,040
Speaker 1: been doing this for a month of Sundays. So this

89
00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,080
Speaker 1: is you know, this is not formal. This is love.

90
00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,200
Speaker 1: This is our opportunity to give you the love and

91
00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,839
Speaker 1: the flowers that you deserve and also an opportunity for

92
00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,920
Speaker 1: you to pop your ship because you because you are.

93
00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,640
Speaker 3: What you're doing what you and you're doing.

94
00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,840
Speaker 1: What you're doing, all right. So what we're gonna do

95
00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,520
Speaker 1: is we're gonna take this ship back to the beginning.

96
00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,360
Speaker 1: Oh lord, Yeah, we want to know where it come from.

97
00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,120
Speaker 1: We want to know where it stopped that.

98
00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,480
Speaker 3: Yes, you gotta shout out your beautiful mama. I'm gonna

99
00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,880
Speaker 3: say hi to my gird.

100
00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,919
Speaker 2: This man has had a crush on my mom for

101
00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:42,880
Speaker 2: twenty years now, pretend crush.

102
00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,040
Speaker 1: Take us back? When did When was it identified that

103
00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,120
Speaker 1: that you had this.

104
00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,039
Speaker 2: By others or me?

105
00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,599
Speaker 3: Both? Yeah?

106
00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:55,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I knew that I was special or different. Around

107
00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,359
Speaker 2: three or four, I remember people always asking me to

108
00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,159
Speaker 2: sing whatever song I knew whatever. I just remember being

109
00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:10,600
Speaker 2: at like family reunions and being that young and just like, okay,

110
00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,479
Speaker 2: I felt like a karaoke That's why I ended up

111
00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,760
Speaker 2: naming my publishing company Karaoke Music, I mean karaoke songs,

112
00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,800
Speaker 2: because I remember as a young kid, it was like

113
00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,760
Speaker 2: Carrie Sing, Carrie Sing all the way up through church retreats,

114
00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,400
Speaker 2: all the way up to high school, you know what

115
00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,800
Speaker 2: I mean. It was always that. So it was like

116
00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,880
Speaker 2: I was like, I felt like a karaoke machine. So anyway,

117
00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,920
Speaker 2: as young as three and four, that began, I was like,

118
00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,839
Speaker 2: why is everybody? But that would be the way that

119
00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,640
Speaker 2: that the only way that people would pay attention to me.

120
00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,400
Speaker 2: And so of course you're that young, you're going to

121
00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,600
Speaker 2: notice that pattern. It's just like, okay, when I'm singing,

122
00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,200
Speaker 2: there's everybody's everybody stops, everybody stops, everybody's looking down at me.

123
00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,800
Speaker 2: And you know, so my mom said.

124
00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:50,880
Speaker 3: She knew.

125
00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,000
Speaker 2: I guess around this she probably knew sooner she's let

126
00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,400
Speaker 2: me go to singing. Though singing, I would say, she

127
00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,360
Speaker 2: she finally believed enough to let me enter a talent

128
00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:08,320
Speaker 2: show in first grade, and she bought me sheet music.

129
00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,840
Speaker 2: Well if I was begging for a few years to perform,

130
00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,080
Speaker 2: and you know, but she let me do that just

131
00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,080
Speaker 2: to see, just like, what's this little girl?

132
00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:20,640
Speaker 3: What is she?

133
00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,720
Speaker 2: You know? All I ever did anyone else?

134
00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,240
Speaker 3: Did anyone else in the family sing?

135
00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,440
Speaker 2: My dad used to sing. My dad would sing at

136
00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,920
Speaker 2: the fireplace with some drinks.

137
00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,280
Speaker 3: That's how he would wind down.

138
00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,920
Speaker 2: He would come home tipsy and say, hey, everybody. He

139
00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,760
Speaker 2: would sit us down and perform for us at the mantle.

140
00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,360
Speaker 3: Do you remember what he was saying?

141
00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:51,440
Speaker 2: That it might I'm sure my mom remembers. I'm sure

142
00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:57,600
Speaker 2: my mom remembers his audience his We were a big

143
00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,560
Speaker 2: audience though. It was seven of us, well six others

144
00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,400
Speaker 2: than him. Yeah, six family of seven. Okay, so we

145
00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,440
Speaker 2: had a big ass audience. So we would sit on

146
00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,000
Speaker 2: the couch, line up, some of us sit on the floor,

147
00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,800
Speaker 2: and Dad would be at the fireplace singing for us,

148
00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,120
Speaker 2: and we would just clap. We were annoyed a little

149
00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:29,880
Speaker 2: bit sometimes.

150
00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:26,880
Speaker 1: Right, gig, I need you all to pull up.

151
00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,640
Speaker 3: He's already talking to his pull up.

152
00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,680
Speaker 2: Awesome, And my mom would be like, he's.

153
00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:48,360
Speaker 3: Drunk because I have one. I'm an alcoholic. Everything goes

154
00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:48,880
Speaker 3: back to the fire.

155
00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:50,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I got it.

156
00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,680
Speaker 1: That is awesome.

157
00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I got it from him for sure. But

158
00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,800
Speaker 2: my mother's mother was a performer, and my dad's side

159
00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,760
Speaker 2: all of them sing his sister, his mother, But my

160
00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:06,640
Speaker 2: mother's mother was a performer, like she was a what

161
00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,600
Speaker 2: do you call a baton twirler, there's a more professional

162
00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,839
Speaker 2: name for it, the major atte through adulthood. She was

163
00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,800
Speaker 2: for a long time, and she would perform and people

164
00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,640
Speaker 2: would come to see her, and so that I think

165
00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,760
Speaker 2: the performance probably came from her. I'm like the Yeah,

166
00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm like the mesh. Yeah, I'm like the mesh. Yeah.

167
00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,120
Speaker 2: And that was a later revelation.

168
00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:32,840
Speaker 1: Your first talent show?

169
00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,440
Speaker 2: How do you use the first talent show?

170
00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:34,839
Speaker 1: I won?

171
00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,360
Speaker 2: I won, and it was a big one. It was

172
00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,560
Speaker 2: it was you had to compete for some reason one

173
00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,920
Speaker 2: through seven, like first grade through seventh grade, because we

174
00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,480
Speaker 2: didn't have middle school, so it was one through seven

175
00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,880
Speaker 2: and then eight through twelfth was high school. So they

176
00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,400
Speaker 2: had two categories. So I won for the elementary category.

177
00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,120
Speaker 3: But you were first grade and you beat everybody.

178
00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,240
Speaker 2: Else everybody else alth seventh, yea, I sang I Sing

179
00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:08,120
Speaker 2: Home from the Whiz in a Poka Doddres and a

180
00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,640
Speaker 2: side pony pill place.

181
00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,320
Speaker 3: Did you have all the theatrics and everything?

182
00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's great. Mom coached me through. She brought

183
00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,320
Speaker 2: me the sheet music and the karaoke tape. Y'all remember, yeah,

184
00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,560
Speaker 2: did you ever have? Did any of y'all? No sheet

185
00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,880
Speaker 2: music and the tape to go with it? Like an

186
00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,720
Speaker 2: instrumental used to be terrible.

187
00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,719
Speaker 3: We have to just learn it.

188
00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, a capella.

189
00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to record it off of the radio

190
00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,120
Speaker 1: whatever it was, then play the cassette a bunch of times,

191
00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,240
Speaker 1: and then just sit at the piano.

192
00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. I never had a karaoke Tapeis he was rich?

193
00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:48,640
Speaker 3: You was rich.

194
00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,840
Speaker 2: I don't think I could record me though. I mean,

195
00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,880
Speaker 2: if you could record you, that's a new level. I'm

196
00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,520
Speaker 2: just saying. We went to wad you track. I had

197
00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,959
Speaker 2: a team, but you could buy them from record stores

198
00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,160
Speaker 2: and piano stores. They had cover she cover music, she

199
00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,199
Speaker 2: music sheet music for covers.

200
00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't eve get new shoes, let alone, O got

201
00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:22,200
Speaker 1: that music. Start this back in tape. I enjoyed being poor.

202
00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,160
Speaker 1: I have way more. I never want to go back.

203
00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,880
Speaker 1: I never want to go back. All right, you win

204
00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:29,520
Speaker 1: the talent ship.

205
00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't that enjoyable.

206
00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,040
Speaker 1: And I want to challenge, does this push mom to

207
00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,360
Speaker 1: push you? Or does this or just or you just

208
00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,400
Speaker 1: let you know? You got it?

209
00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,520
Speaker 2: I was pushing her, I got it.

210
00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was pushing her into this.

211
00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely. My mom was resistant the entire time, but she

212
00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,079
Speaker 2: would actual yes enough for me to like, she would,

213
00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:50,040
Speaker 2: you know.

214
00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:50,280
Speaker 3: What I mean?

215
00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,360
Speaker 1: I told her she's well studied, smart, it's not just real.

216
00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,360
Speaker 3: Real college to the thirteenth.

217
00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,280
Speaker 2: Yes, she would. She would. She believed in like allowing

218
00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,240
Speaker 2: us to she would enrich our lives with a whole

219
00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,520
Speaker 2: lot of different activities. So, yeah, there were some things

220
00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,559
Speaker 2: I didn't want to do, you know what I mean,

221
00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,760
Speaker 2: But I had to do them. And if you wanted

222
00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,719
Speaker 2: to play the piano, you're gonna do that, you know

223
00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,240
Speaker 2: what I mean. She she did believe in that, which

224
00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm really really grateful because I'm like great at a

225
00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,240
Speaker 2: lot of things. I'm great at pretty much everything I do,

226
00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,479
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's good at least.

227
00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,880
Speaker 1: It's popular ship. This is this is what this is

228
00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:34,679
Speaker 1: for continue.

229
00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't suck anything, you know what I mean, anything

230
00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,040
Speaker 2: you throw my way, anything you think because I'm a girl,

231
00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:47,160
Speaker 2: because you know what I don't. I'm just saying it's

232
00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,240
Speaker 2: from the way that. Yeah, it's a character trait. Greatness

233
00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,439
Speaker 2: is a character trait. Excellence is a character trait, right,

234
00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,760
Speaker 2: But it's also from being exposed to so much so young,

235
00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Just yeah, So when did.

236
00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,000
Speaker 1: It become real? Like you as you're going through the

237
00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,280
Speaker 1: talent show process, I'm sure there were many of those

238
00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,920
Speaker 1: because it was a local thing. When does it become

239
00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,000
Speaker 1: like when does it get exposure on another level, maybe

240
00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,920
Speaker 1: a commercial or maybe a play, some musical theater or

241
00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,199
Speaker 1: a talent shows.

242
00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:31,120
Speaker 2: No, it was I did do musical theater in elementary school,

243
00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,040
Speaker 2: and I remember doing a play at I believe it

244
00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,840
Speaker 2: was either the Fox Theater or the Rialito. But it

245
00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,719
Speaker 2: was like an African wedding. I didn't get to sing no,

246
00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,240
Speaker 2: but I was in it, and that was like the

247
00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,480
Speaker 2: bug that was like, I see, it's a full audience. Okay.

248
00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,479
Speaker 2: If I was carried now, I might have just went rogue.

249
00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,319
Speaker 2: I had a lot of moments where I felt like

250
00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,200
Speaker 2: it's real, it's nothing but a series of moments. Yeah,

251
00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,360
Speaker 2: it's a series. You got years in between them. Okay,

252
00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,680
Speaker 2: so I don't know the first one, but I remember

253
00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,280
Speaker 2: one of the big ones was joining the group under

254
00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,239
Speaker 2: Marvin McIntyre.

255
00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,240
Speaker 1: Marvin McIntyre, Yeah, yeah, that was a big one.

256
00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,920
Speaker 2: They formed. I was fourteen. They formed a group around me.

257
00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,440
Speaker 2: We were performing, We were showcasing for every label, all

258
00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,120
Speaker 2: every all of them, all the ones I grew up

259
00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,240
Speaker 2: reading in the credits, all of them. And we ended

260
00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,240
Speaker 2: up signing with Merlin Bob and Sylvia Rohne at Electra Electra.

261
00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:38,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

262
00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:44,320
Speaker 2: So we never came out, but I don't even think

263
00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,520
Speaker 2: we got that far. And if we did, if we did, shit,

264
00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,480
Speaker 2: we may not have ever gotten it.

265
00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,080
Speaker 3: I didn't get to y'all goody.

266
00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,840
Speaker 2: No, I think it was actually a demo deal. I

267
00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,960
Speaker 2: think it was a demo deal. Yeah, a development deal,

268
00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,600
Speaker 2: and so we disbanded before we got to that point.

269
00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,840
Speaker 1: There's a development budget too, though, well just for everything

270
00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:17,560
Speaker 1: you say.

271
00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:26,040
Speaker 2: So that's the real thing. And I started writing then too,

272
00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,400
Speaker 2: for the group. He's writing the songs that we would

273
00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:33,600
Speaker 2: perform years in. First we were doing covers and then

274
00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,480
Speaker 2: I remember this is it wasn't my first taste of

275
00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,000
Speaker 2: writing because I had a guy I went to church

276
00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,960
Speaker 2: with who had tracks and he was an ass He

277
00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,880
Speaker 2: was signed to ASCAP, and you know what I mean,

278
00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,080
Speaker 2: he was kind of in the mix. His name was Terrence,

279
00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,600
Speaker 2: shout out of Terrence, and he would give me CDs

280
00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,760
Speaker 2: at church of instrumentals. So I'm like, finally I could

281
00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,480
Speaker 2: like write to something other than a song like me

282
00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:03,360
Speaker 2: having to erase the arrangement and the singing on top,

283
00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,120
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like I had to imagine

284
00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,120
Speaker 2: the tracks were instrumentals, but I was writing a whole

285
00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,760
Speaker 2: new songs over them, and and that was I was

286
00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,760
Speaker 2: successful at being able to do that, which is now

287
00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,640
Speaker 2: I think informs the way that I create now because

288
00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:21,880
Speaker 2: I can really isolate, you know what I mean, any player, Yeah,

289
00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,480
Speaker 2: they gave it a name. I can do that with

290
00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,960
Speaker 2: voices too, Like somebody could be talking in a room

291
00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,600
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I didn't hear a word you said

292
00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,600
Speaker 2: a word.

293
00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,360
Speaker 3: That's good and bad.

294
00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah I do that, but it's hyper focused. So it's

295
00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,880
Speaker 1: if I'm hyper focused on something, I could oh.

296
00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he's on out, I'm gone.

297
00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,120
Speaker 2: I guess that means I'm hyper focused.

298
00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:56,520
Speaker 1: A baby, baby, baby, Well this is my family member.

299
00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,520
Speaker 1: They're still alive. They grew up, They fairy fine, but.

300
00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,960
Speaker 2: Like full steps, like stopped out.

301
00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,000
Speaker 3: He had this trip moment.

302
00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,000
Speaker 1: What is going on? Prince was on TV and it

303
00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:17,359
Speaker 1: was my first time ever singing and hearing Prince. And

304
00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,359
Speaker 1: so for me as a kid, things would things would

305
00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,480
Speaker 1: hit my brain like and stimulate me in a way

306
00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,240
Speaker 1: that I didn't understand and I will completely be lost.

307
00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:50,840
Speaker 1: And I was just I remember walking towards the TV and.

308
00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,800
Speaker 2: I hope it wasn't like a dance. I hope you

309
00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,600
Speaker 2: were break out.

310
00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:56,240
Speaker 1: I just I just kind of stepped on the baby

311
00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:02,480
Speaker 1: and I remember screaming like what I look at his way,

312
00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,560
Speaker 1: So you stepped on the day. I didn't mean to.

313
00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:12,760
Speaker 1: I mean to, And so I can zone out. That's

314
00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,199
Speaker 1: the point of.

315
00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,000
Speaker 2: The especially when music is involved. I remember those, y'all

316
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:16,880
Speaker 2: remember those moments.

317
00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,719
Speaker 1: God, now you can scare me, Like if I'm zoned out,

318
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,080
Speaker 1: you could scare the ship out of me. You know

319
00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,919
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like my kids have done it. It's around.

320
00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,680
Speaker 3: Around. So he's stepping on babies.

321
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,359
Speaker 2: Now you're writing, Yeah, I was writing songs, so I

322
00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,000
Speaker 2: was getting tracks and then it turned into writing for

323
00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,480
Speaker 2: the group, and that was real because he was like, well,

324
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,280
Speaker 2: he put us all in separate rooms and he said,

325
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 2: here's the track I got. I want to see what

326
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,400
Speaker 2: y'all can do. But had years, I had years.

327
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah I got this smashed, yeah, real fasts. Yeah, I

328
00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:58,240
Speaker 1: like me.

329
00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,880
Speaker 2: They were coming to the room like are you done?

330
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 2: Are you done? I was like, yeah, I'm done. Do

331
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,359
Speaker 2: you have all the parts?

332
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

333
00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 2: I got the harmonies, you know what I mean? It's

334
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:06,280
Speaker 2: fully written.

335
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

336
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:07,639
Speaker 2: It's like I'm stuck.

337
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,720
Speaker 3: They had never really done it. I got it, I

338
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 3: got you, but they had never really done.

339
00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 2: They'd never really done it, and it's not it.

340
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:14,440
Speaker 1: Do you still?

341
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 2: Easy thing? I reacquaint with them or one of them

342
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 2: really from that group? Really only once? And was it

343
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 2: been thirty years? Okay, not thirty years twenty five?

344
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 1: Okay? But on the bad way?

345
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,119
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, yeah one. Well actually yeah, they went as

346
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 2: separate as ways could go.

347
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,120
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, okay, you remember the name of the group.

348
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:46,440
Speaker 2: By design, by design, design, give it one became mine? No, no,

349
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,399
Speaker 2: I know, I didn't really like that. I did not

350
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 2: like the name. I don't like the name.

351
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 1: Don't never let her bring that back if she signs

352
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 1: the group. I know, yeah, we're not doing that.

353
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 2: I didn't like the name. But one became one ended

354
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 2: up stripping, and one became the Minister of music.

355
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah became.

356
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so that.

357
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 3: Body was on the.

358
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 1: Magic City got the best impossible Burger in town? What nothing?

359
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 2: He goes to Magic City for the impossible Burger tank.

360
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,719
Speaker 1: Yes we do, I mean, yes we do.

361
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 2: Apparently they do.

362
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 1: Yes, we do that impossible burger magic shout out to

363
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: Magic I'm just talking to Lulu about that. He was

364
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: on the phone. He's like, he's like, you've been to

365
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,879
Speaker 1: Magic City yet? I said no, but the Impossible Burger

366
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 1: is calling me. All right. So anyway, this group you're writing,

367
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 1: does anybody hear that, like hear these songs from this

368
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 1: group and identify you as as the writer as the

369
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: singular Yes, talent.

370
00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 2: That Anthony did was one of them. Shout yeah, he

371
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 2: was one of them. Focused Teddy Bishop.

372
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, these are well started getting around.

373
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 2: It started kind of there's this girl. Yeah, there's this teenager.

374
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 2: She's also in college.

375
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 3: So you're in college by now.

376
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm in college. Yeah. Because I was in the group

377
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: from fourteen to I went to college at seventeen. I

378
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: think we disbanded at eighteen. Yeah, fourteen to eighteen.

379
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 3: How fast did you get in another group? Because I

380
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 3: met you when you were in a group.

381
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it happened faster than I wanted it to. I

382
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: wanted to work on Carrie, but then then I started

383
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 2: writing for those people and more right when the group

384
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: disbanded and Dent had the idea to again put a

385
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: group around me. It's not what I wanted, but I said,

386
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 2: I'll give you a little time on this. I gave

387
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: him a little time on.

388
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 3: It, and he met me during that group.

389
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 2: So I was nineteen, I think, or maybe it might

390
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 2: have been a couple of years. I don't think I

391
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: was twenty.

392
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that.

393
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 2: Was pretty Tony.

394
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: Now.

395
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: I like that name. You came front on Pretty It

396
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 2: was four girls.

397
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: It's a nigga from Oakland naming his group after a

398
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 3: nigga in the Mac name Pretty Town.

399
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: Yea, I know exactly.

400
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So then there's that, but like and we were bad.

401
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 3: These are these are the pretty Town you remember?

402
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 1: You know what?

403
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 3: No? I remember saying to Dent, I said, group is cool.

404
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 3: Her mm hmm. Her ended up being you. This was

405
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: just my assessment of it, you know what I'm saying.

406
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 3: And at that point, I'm the super young nigg in

407
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: the industry. I had got me some little records I'm cracking,

408
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,959
Speaker 3: you know, I got placements and ship and moving around

409
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 3: New York as a writer. I was seeking them as

410
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: my partner, you know what I'm saying, because of our

411
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 3: mutual friend Stewart, right, so that like, man, Valentine, I

412
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 3: need you to come by. Man, I got these girls.

413
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: You know, I'm twenty twenty one years whatever I am

414
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 3: at the time, like you got you said, you got

415
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: yours over there. I come see what she got over there.

416
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: Back.

417
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: I got me a little bag already coming. And then

418
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,239
Speaker 3: you know, I.

419
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: Was there too then because Shakir was very instrumental in

420
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 2: like setting up our showcases for then, you know, for

421
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: the girl.

422
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 3: And I was kind of I was quietly a bit

423
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: of a taste maker for them, especially for Shakir, because

424
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 3: I was younger than them. So it was like if

425
00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: our young partner who really out here, really moved went around,

426
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 3: if he fuck with it, It's something like That's how

427
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 3: they looked at me, like they without me even being

428
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: an actual an R. I was kind of like the

429
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 3: consultant that wasn't getting paid. I was getting paid in

430
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: the parties.

431
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: That's when I started. Johntay Austin took me up under

432
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: his wing while I was that was a great wing.

433
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: So he was like, didn't I would say it was

434
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: my first songwriting mentor. And then Johntay like as a

435
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 2: actual songwriter, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, it's

436
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: a great wing. He brought me my first He taught

437
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: me how to cover my throat, brought me my first scarf.

438
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 3: Of course.

439
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: Elegant.

440
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: We go over there right there and go open that

441
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 3: drawer right there. It's it's it's some things in there.

442
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

443
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 2: He taught me so much though about like about just

444
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: formatting and arranging and just I just got to watch.

445
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: He brought me in. Yeah, and he brought me in

446
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: on his sessions and before long because I'm like I said,

447
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: I do everything what at least, well, I'm going to

448
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 2: I put effort like it's that trait, so like I

449
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: catch on quick, you know what I mean? And that's

450
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: I just God was looking back. God was placing me

451
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: in every scenario that I needed to become.

452
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: Who I became, to grab all those tools.

453
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 2: Yes, collecting tools for the toolbox. I don't know when

454
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: or how I'm Aneda, but I know I'm a need

455
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 2: at some point. It was never a doubt in my

456
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: mind that I wouldn't have become famous. I knew really

457
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: really really young.

458
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: Did you know, I didn't know what I knew it was.

459
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

460
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know. I didn't know what that meant.

461
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: I know there was a thing I was just I

462
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: just wanted to sing. I just wanted to be I

463
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: just wanted to be like John p Key, you know

464
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and just you know, in singing church.

465
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: That's that's all I knew. Even when I saw it

466
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: on TV, I was like, oh, that's cool. Like but

467
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: I never said, oh I want to be on TV.

468
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: I never I never said that.

469
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying your world was like just so

470
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: far from secular.

471
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: It was so fanatic any of that, you know what

472
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I was just it was just if

473
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: if they standing up shouting church. That was the hype

474
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: for me. That was like that was like, oh, oh

475
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm here, I arrived.

476
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. I never I mean, to this day, I don't

477
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 3: I don't even consider myself ever being famous. I don't

478
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: think I've ever been famous in my life. So for me,

479
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: I look at it like you're there. I ran from

480
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 3: being famous, like you said, I always thought it would happen,

481
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't want it.

482
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: M M.

483
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: I just want to go shopping and ship. I just

484
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: want to be able to enjoy my money, So I

485
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: gotta get me some money. Like that's what you will

486
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: push me in somebody's department store, boutique. That's where you

487
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: were running to me. If you want to find me,

488
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: if your city got a fly boutigue or some cool

489
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: ass shoes somewhere, that's what I'm gonna be. But that's

490
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: all for me, that's what I wanted. I never I

491
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: knew fame was going to come if I did certain things,

492
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: so I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do them. I'm famous,

493
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: keep famous on purpose. And yeah, that's why guys like

494
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: al Jamal hate me. He's like, niggas, just go do

495
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: your thing, nigga, Aljamal Youth, you knew you had it,

496
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: Big Jason. All niggas that want to fight, niggas want

497
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: to fight you and beat you up and give your boye.

498
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 3: Niggas like go do but you saw that.

499
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: I'm now I'm becoming the damn. I'm curious because you

500
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: guys are my friends. I feel like we're just talking

501
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: in the studio. But did you think that what you

502
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: saw your family go through or your brothers like that group, Like,

503
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: do you feel like getting that taste of it when

504
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: you were that young had anything to do with running

505
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: from it?

506
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: I don't like to be bothered, Okay. I like to

507
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: eat in peace. I like to walk through the airport

508
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: in piece.

509
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't.

510
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: I don't want the t s a girl to be

511
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: like I seen you, which is the podcast is fucking

512
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: made that. I'm like, oh, are you flying first class?

513
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: Because I know you don't like to pay for the

514
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: first class ticket.

515
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: She's watching You.

516
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: Got your blanket? I have my blanket, yes for me?

517
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: Like I just I like I like being normal. I

518
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: like normal life. I just want the money that come

519
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: along with y'all famous life.

520
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: Once I got a taste of it, I need it.

521
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: How do I stay? How Once the nigga that was

522
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: doing security for me wouldn't let me in the club

523
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: because I wasn't that famous no more, I said.

524
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, this has never happened again.

525
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: You knew I got to be famous at all times?

526
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: Okay, all time.

527
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: I need the access, at least need the options. Even

528
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: if I don't want to partaket.

529
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: They don't know me and I'm not getting in and

530
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: somebody there, I'm just gonna go home. I don't care,

531
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: like they don't bother me, like I was sick. Oh,

532
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: y'all forul tonight, that's cool. I didn't really want to

533
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: be here anyway.

534
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: It's a little room.

535
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: Who got a sexual.

536
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: Thoughts? What you're doing? You in there right now? There's

537
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: too many I'm away at the house.

538
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 3: Uh hear me?

539
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: H sickly?

540
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: So you knew you knew fame was in the car, yes, somewhat.

541
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: Did you know as an artist or what? Did you

542
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: see it as like I'm going to.

543
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: Be as an artist? So the groups, to me, I

544
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: kind of felt like they are in my way? Why

545
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: does this keep happening? So they keep putting me in groups?

546
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: Did you also delayed in the back of your mind

547
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: know that it wasn't going to work in a group?

548
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: Yes, huh, the back and the front.

549
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: Hm hm, wow, it's that bullshit.

550
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: You're just passing time in a sense because you're like

551
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: this opportunity.

552
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: Mhm develop relationships. And that's when the idea to cultivate

553
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: songwriting happened. Was just like, that's a waste, that's a

554
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: waste of my time. But this ain't hmm.

555
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: You found purpose within that.

556
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a waste of time.

557
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

558
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: I was like, well, while I'm in this space, I

559
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: can develop this.

560
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So I was spreading the board and knowing

561
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: that it was possible that someone we would showcase four

562
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: would just be like I like her. Yeah, yeah, I

563
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: knew that was and it did happen.

564
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: It was happening.

565
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: It did happen.

566
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: Okay, so when do you break free?

567
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: College allowed me the first opportunity to break free, even

568
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: though we are in a deal that this is the

569
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: first group by design the second group. Uh, I don't know,

570
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: but I'm sure I concocted a plan and carried it

571
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: through and I was successful.

572
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: Get out exit plan diabolical. I've been there.

573
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's how. I don't remember what I chose. Okay,

574
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure I had some ideas and.

575
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: I carried I'm getting out of this ship the spire

576
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: along fire start running. Then they're not as fast as me.

577
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: The building later literally yeah.

578
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 3: But it makes sense. So when do you get your

579
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: first hit record? Then as a as a writer.

580
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: As a writer, okay, hip first hit, I can't play

581
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: that game. First placement, I remember my first placement. No,

582
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: I'm lying. The first one I got to check for.

583
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: It was Ruben Stuttered for the first album, for his

584
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: first album, his first album. I think that's the first

585
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: one that paid. I don't remember. I remember that like

586
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: the group of first I was working listen, bruh. I

587
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: was doing two or three occasional four sessions a day,

588
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: like you know how they do in La now where

589
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: the writer goes two hours here and then two hours.

590
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: They could work an eight hour day, but they've been

591
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: with four or five producers throughout that time.

592
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you. That was me in Atlanta. I had

593
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: school in Atlanta where nothing is.

594
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: My school was like an hour away, yes exactly, nothing

595
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: was close. So that was me. Then this is what

596
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: two thousand. I graduated in two thousands, so it would

597
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: have been like I guess two oh three ish. Sure,

598
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: and that was that.

599
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: No, I can attest to that. Come to Atlanta and

600
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: Carrie's like she's come by the crib. I'm like, all right, cool,

601
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: She's like, we're gonna write. Carrie knew how to work

602
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: her little pro tool set up, like she really knew

603
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: how to get through all the shit. It was like

604
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: me going to one of the other Homies spots and

605
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 3: you know, I always had my home studios and I

606
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: had my different stuff too, and I'm like, oh, she

607
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: on her shit. I actually enjoy writing and working with her,

608
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: because you know, we all know this, We've all male

609
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: our female. You get to some people and you're just like, yo,

610
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 3: how are you even in the music business.

611
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 5: You don't know what the fuck you're doing?

612
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 3: Y Yeah, and I'm gonna call this engineer. Man, No,

613
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: this nigga ain't got here yet. It's like by this time,

614
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: I'm trying to go to Papa Dogs. I'm trying to

615
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: get a body here. Bron You wasn't ready. It wasn't.

616
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: I went to Carrie's house and I was like, oh,

617
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: she gets it.

618
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

619
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: I was like, she fucking gets it. Like she is

620
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: on top of her shit. She's not wasting no time,

621
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: she's not playing around. We were going to and we

622
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 3: did write a song. You know what I'm saying like

623
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: that's something that we all shoot for, we all writers

624
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 3: and producers, and like we've all been there. You want

625
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: to finish some ship, yes, we want to write some ship.

626
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: Yes.

627
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: And he wanted to be great, to be great yeah

628
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: every time. So yeah, the hook we were. I had

629
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: a food time. This was like upstairs upstairs at the

630
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: house that I stayed in during college, and I just

631
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: turned upstairs to this blue I call it the Blue Room,

632
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: but it was just my studio and have my pro

633
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: tools rigged.

634
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 3: Mike.

635
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: That was what I did with my first check, was

636
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: bought everything I needed.

637
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: Question. I wanted to know what she did with that check.

638
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what blew.

639
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: I mean.

640
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: I bought a car too. I bought a ooh that

641
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 2: thing was cold. I bought the first car I bought

642
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: myself was a BMW three thirty c I I see.

643
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: So I had the convertible and it was this you

644
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: probably remember you explain it, okay, But it was this

645
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: graphite color that looked one way when you look at

646
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 2: one angle, and then looked a different way when it

647
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: looked a different angle.

648
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

649
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: It was that it was it was it was like

650
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: a purply gray, you know, like a periwinkle kind of

651
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: dolphin gray. Yeah, it depends on how it was. Everything

652
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: in the gray spectrum with a little purple in it,

653
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: a little.

654
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: You still feel good about.

655
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: I loved I loved that car.

656
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: But did you have a publishing?

657
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: I waited almost a decade to do a publishing just

658
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: about not really, I went a decade. I don't remember

659
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: what year I did that, but I know it was

660
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: a lot of offers for a long time. It was

661
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 2: at least maybe could have been from the moment from

662
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: the first check to the time when I it was

663
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: about that maybe eight or nine years.

664
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: I waited.

665
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: I waited, I stacked up. I had singles on the radio,

666
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: stacked up. I was like, because everybody kept saying, you know,

667
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: there was this thing about having records in the pipeline

668
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: and that's when publishing companies are interested in you. I

669
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: was like, well, let me see what they do. When

670
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: I got them on the radio, I just felt like that,

671
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I was smart move.

672
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

673
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: She also had the cheat code too, though, what was

674
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: the chica who was in? You know what I mean?

675
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 3: Like that whole.

676
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: Way I know, Paulo introduced me to Ethiopia when I

677
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: was my artists stuff. Yes, yes, so I ended up there,

678
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: but no, I turned down a whole lot. We ain't

679
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: gonna name them, name, no names, but all the like

680
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 2: heavy heavy ones, heavy ones, heavy one.

681
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: Once you get records, Once you get records on albums

682
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: are singles out, every single publisher is coming coming.

683
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah there, and they are, And a lot of it

684
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: was laughable because at that point, like I knew, you

685
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: remember the Donald Passman book All you need to Know

686
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: about the music business, and like between that and the

687
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: relationships that I had cultivated over there was over those

688
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: years like I would ask questions, I would research, I

689
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: would look it up, I would you know what I mean?

690
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: I knew I wanted to be really, really wise with

691
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: these permanent decisions because I knew what a deal blowing

692
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: up looked like, you know what I mean? So I

693
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: didn't want to be there again.

694
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: So when do you get to polo? When do I

695
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: get how does that happen?

696
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: I was a writer. I remember passing him at some

697
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: session I was doing. I think he was leaving and

698
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: I was coming, or I was leaving and no, I

699
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: was leaving and he was coming. We passed each other

700
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 2: in the front. He was like, hey, a little Birdie

701
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: told me you would dope and I said, okay, so

702
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: I you know, I was leaving and he Our group

703
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: ended up up performing at this stadium at the same

704
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 2: our group and his group, Jim Crumb, I.

705
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: Got you remember Jim Crubb.

706
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So then we got to know each other. I

707
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: can't remember which order this happened. I think it was

708
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: Bertie told me you're dope first, and then or at

709
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: someble I don't know, maybe the group performance happened. I

710
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: don't know. It's all you know, y'all know how'd be.

711
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: But those two events happened. And so this is how

712
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: I knew Polo because I think I remember going outside

713
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: that session. I want to say, the conversation engaged like

714
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: I was just at first, I was like, oh, okay,

715
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: that's you know, that's nice. I didn't know really what

716
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: whire who, but he had an idea and he walked

717
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: outside with me, or walked me to my car, I think,

718
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: and was like like he made it like he was

719
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: working with Timbaland on something, right. I didn't really believe him,

720
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: but that was it. And then I was working one

721
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: night with Donnie Skantz, Donny's scant Scantleberry, Yeah, d scance.

722
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: So he we did a lot of we actually were

723
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: about to do it prop. We were doing kind of

724
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: like an alternative. We had a whole round of like

725
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 2: some really dope live stuff. We performed it randomly once,

726
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: I think. But anyway, so we were working and so

727
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: one night he asked me, and he's like, if somebody

728
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: were who would you want to be with as an

729
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: artist if you were thinking, because they both everybody at

730
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: that point knew that I wasn't vocal about pursuing the

731
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: artist thing. Carrie is a songwriter, she's an arranger, she's

732
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: producing your vocals, she's engineering your session, she's doing the

733
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: rough mix, she's you know what I mean. That's how

734
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: that was everyone's awareness of me. So this guy says,

735
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: whichever one it was, Polo or Donnie, says, if you

736
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: were an artist, who do you think would get your music?

737
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: And I say Timbaland hands down.

738
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 3: You never met Tim.

739
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: I never met him, And it wasn't long before somebody

740
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: made Timbleland aware of me. I meet with him at

741
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: a hotel. It's early morning. I was fresh off vacation.

742
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: I had these like dread things like these locks in

743
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: my hair. Vacation hair. Yes, exactly.

744
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 3: You girls never want to go on vacation with your

745
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: with your every day hair. Go ahead, girls, take in

746
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 3: your vacation bid.

747
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: And at that same studio loft that we you and

748
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: I worked in, and I had just gone to bed.

749
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: I had just gone to bed. This is that thing

750
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: about being ready, being prepared. I had just gone to

751
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: bed at like six or seven in the morning. So

752
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that I even answered the phone call. Normally

753
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: after a session when I'm what I'm done, especially if

754
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: it's we're getting in, I got in in the morning.

755
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: I just happened to answer the phone, like just in

756
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: case something was wrong, and it was. I was finishing

757
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 2: up a record with Pope. I think it was Pimpan

758
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: all Over the World. I remember doing that song at

759
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: the student studio. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure. I know

760
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: we did that song at that studio and I didn't

761
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: work it was I'm pretty sure it was that same day,

762
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: and because we did Pimpan all the World Runaway Love

763
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: during the same session, yeah, at the same spot. So

764
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: we had just gone to bed, and I'm just thinking

765
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: he just want to say something like I had literally

766
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: just hopped in again. It's like I would say about seven, Hey, hey,

767
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: Timbaland is in town and he wants to meet you.

768
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: I say. When he said like nine nine thirty, I

769
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: was like, I haven't been to bed. Okay, all right,

770
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 2: well this is it. So instead of going to sleep,

771
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: I go upstairs. I put together a demo, printed the

772
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: song titles, and then I put the sticker on the CD. Like, well,

773
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: I had never thought it had been years kind of

774
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: since I had pursued being an artist or even said

775
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: it to anybody, you know what I mean. Yeah, but

776
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that, you know what I mean. So

777
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: I put together a CD of I guess maybe I

778
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: think I had four songs on each side, so probably

779
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: eight songs. And then I got dressed, went to the

780
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: hotel and played songs that I've written for other people

781
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: that I was like, I guess if I were an artist,

782
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: this is what I would sound like. Let me try

783
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: to make this cohesive and put them in the water

784
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: sequence it like it's a project, like you know. So

785
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: that's what I did, and what he said, bounce records down.

786
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: Tim said, oh I know what to do with this.

787
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 2: I know what to do with this, so he says,

788
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: and I played on records. There was one record that

789
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 2: he really liked, and he said, that's your crimea River.

790
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: And I said, shit, shit, yeah this yeah, and it was.

791
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: It was a song I did with Dan Donnie called

792
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 2: Strange Angel, and it was alternative sounding, but it had

793
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: enough of a cadence that I knew exactly what tim.

794
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, I could hear that.

795
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: I can hear that.

796
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: So anyway, so he says those two things that I'll

797
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: never forget. I know what to do with you. I

798
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: know what to do with this meaning this meaning you right,

799
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: And then that's your crimea River. I'm like, God, damn,

800
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: I manifested this ship. I didn't even know that word

801
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: back then. I didn't say that, but I was like,

802
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 2: that was one of my first awarenesses of God because

803
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: I spoke that. I spoke that someone maybe a year

804
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: or whatever before. It's like, if you could be with

805
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 2: one producer. And I remember really giving it some thought

806
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: because there were listen, I'm a Babyface fan, you know

807
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: what I mean. It was a lot of people I

808
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: could have chosen from Teddy Riley, it was a lot

809
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: of people that I really appreciated who were you know? Producing?

810
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: And I landed on Timbaland after giving that some real

811
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: It wasn't a quick conversation. It was like I don't

812
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: like to answer things inauthentically, so but I landed with

813
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: Timbland and then he's like, hey, so, what are you

814
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: doing tonight? I was like, I had sessions, but I

815
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: said nothing.

816
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: Call everyone telling my mon available.

817
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: I said nothing, and in the back of my head

818
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, in the back of my mind,

819
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: I was like, you asking me when I'm doing It's

820
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: not a damn thing. Nothing is going to be more

821
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: important than whatever the fuck you're about to Ask me.

822
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: Wh're about you want to do? Yea, And so he

823
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: said can you come to Miami? I was like, oh,

824
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 2: I didn't expect that talk.

825
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what I was doing wasn't here somewhere else? Yeah?

826
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Are you ready to go? He gets

827
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: you back.

828
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 2: The flight was at three o'clock.

829
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: I love it. It's high level.

830
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: I love it was that three o'clock.

831
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: Are you are you ready? You say, I know you

832
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: got ready, yeah to come over here, but are you ready?

833
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? You go to Miami?

834
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: And I was ready that day. I go that day,

835
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 2: hours after.

836
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 3: The meeting, right, and you still ain't slept.

837
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: Still ain't slept. And went straight to the studio and

838
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: we worked on that record. And I stayed at his house.

839
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 2: Did I say his house? I can't remember the first trip.

840
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, this house is so damn big.

841
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: It was like being in a hotel room. Yeah, I

842
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: think so, because it wasn't any time to think. It

843
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 2: was at his house. It was cold as hell. God

844
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 2: Tim mused to keep his house so cold. I bet

845
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 2: he still does. It was miserable. I was miserable. But

846
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: but but I was on such a cloud nine. We

847
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: went straight in and worked on that record that I

848
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: had just laid.

849
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 3: It's fine, So I'm just gonna be in here.

850
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: Telling other people.

851
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: He's got to ask.

852
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

853
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: But immediately it was like this brother sister. You know

854
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: how you just meet people and you just know we

855
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: were meant to create something to get.

856
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: It was that and that the like you're locking with Tim.

857
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: You got the writing going on with Polo, and once

858
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: you meet Tim, I'm sure you're anticipating that it's time.

859
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: It's real.

860
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: Now I'm getting what you waiting for. The artist that

861
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: I've always known I was going to be first time.

862
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: Does that happen immediately or is there some time? And

863
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: maybe some frustration in oh.

864
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 3: About what.

865
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: I would say?

866
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: Now?

867
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: Mind you? First, second night I was in Miami. We

868
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: were offered a million dollar deal. What's his name? That

869
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: was at Atlantic, Peter Edge, he was there doing some

870
00:48:53,120 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 2: things with Tim was working on some Brandy joints And

871
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: was it Peter Edge? No? Atlantic? What is.

872
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: No?

873
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: I don't remember who it was. Someone there for the

874
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: flying in just for the day, heard what we were doing.

875
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: He was at Atlantic and he was over Brandy's project.

876
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: So we'll figure out who that is later. Sorry, I'm sorry.

877
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: I've lived a lot of lots and I hate that

878
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: I can't remember that, but a million dollars deal first

879
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: or second night? Like Tim hid me, He hid me

880
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: in the room. He didn't want, you know, but the

881
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: guy had already heard what we were doing. He didn't

882
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: I don't know why he reacted this way, but he

883
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: was like staying there, literally staying. I was in the

884
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: lounge area. And maybe because we weren't supposed to be

885
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: working on anything else other than the Brandy stuff, like

886
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: he probably was like, yeah, I don't want them to

887
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: think that, but it was Tim's studio. They probably exactly exactly.

888
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: It's probably supposed to be mixing or yeah, yeah, but

889
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 2: that ain't what we were doing.

890
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you've been a songwriter and you've been

891
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: making money. Had you made a million dollars yet? No,

892
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 3: because you hadn't done no publishing deal yet either.

893
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: No, So no, I don't think you had chunk of

894
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: money like that, right, chunks of like.

895
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, pieces forty and fifties, yeah, a couple sixty five yeah, yeah.

896
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. So to hear that, even

897
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 3: that number, and now obviously the new artists, now, you know,

898
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: you hear these astronomical things off of you know, the

899
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 3: analytics of how many streams they and whatever they got

900
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 3: going on? Now where they getting these stupid deals that

901
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: they'll never pay back. But you've been in the game

902
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: that long to finally hear that number, that number used

903
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: to be really real number. It will wake you up.

904
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it won't wait.

905
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 3: They won't give me what a million dollars doing your

906
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 3: doctor immediately? You know, it was different, It was different.

907
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 2: It was and I was impressed. I was just happy.

908
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: I just knew I had some work to do because

909
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: I didn't have any songs as an artist, really, Like

910
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: some of the records I played were things I had

911
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: already played, you know what I mean, maybe one or

912
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: two of them. But I just didn't know, really I had.

913
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: It had been years since I had even thought about

914
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: what kind of artists I would. I lost sight. It

915
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: wasn't that I didn't believe, because I still knew that

916
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: it would happen. But I was just fully immersed in

917
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: songwriting that I or so fully, so fully. Let me

918
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: tell you something about this lip loss. It makes it's sticky,

919
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: it makes you talk funny. Okay, oh my god, Jesus,

920
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 2: so fully immersed. I was fully immersed in songwriting, so

921
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: fully immersed that I couldn't think. I didn't give myself.

922
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: I didn't have the bandwidth, so I had to figure

923
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: it out. But I got timbling. So that's yeah, I

924
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: got timbling, now, you know what I mean. And so

925
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: Tim and Polo are talking about doing a joint venture,

926
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's a pretty good combo, even though

927
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: at the time I didn't really believe in Polo that much.

928
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 2: It was really Tim was the draw, you know what

929
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying Polo was cool. He was figuring it out.

930
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: His levels were real weird to me, you know, can

931
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: we like eq that and like what it was? His

932
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: tracks were messy, but they had potentially because he had umph.

933
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: Polo had a certain, a certain he was going to

934
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 2: sell that.

935
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 3: What you sell it the jump producer executive. He gonna

936
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 3: make you believe in anything, y'all. Don't get it. You crazy, y'all,

937
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: don't get it.

938
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: You're crazy here.

939
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, go to the basic level that that is

940
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: needed in this industry.

941
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: It's needed.

942
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 3: I said all the time. You gotta have that because

943
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: you can have something great in front.

944
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: Of you college factor, Dame.

945
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: Dash you know what I mean. You can have all

946
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 3: of those things. You can have the great artists you can,

947
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: but someone who can sell it to people true, Don

948
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: kingtt Don.

949
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: King absolutely for sure.

950
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: Really you know what I mean.

951
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be the mouth.

952
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what's now for you?

953
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 2: Now it's back to music.

954
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: You really, I love this.

955
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: That's all that's left to do.

956
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 3: This like you locked in fully, locked into this.

957
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: Finished, I'm not finished. I'm not finished.

958
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: Mother.

959
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: The music.

960
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: I love him, It's needed.

961
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: It took a second in a second, a lot of

962
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 2: things happened that that prevented it. I blame it on

963
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: one thing, but really it was years of a struggle. Amen,

964
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: you got through that. I thought through that.

965
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: I thought through that.

966
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: But I'm free and I'm ready. You just can't, you know,

967
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: sometimes you can't create with burdens, with with with a

968
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: dark cloud, under duress, under duress, you can try.

969
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

970
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: Creativity, I think, and I feel closest to God when

971
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 2: I'm creating.

972
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: A my my my mind.

973
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 3: Come on, Bishop, Okay, come on, Ain't that that's that's

974
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: what they.

975
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: Say, right, And that is supposed to be a burdenless space.

976
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: It should be, it should be, that is supposed to

977
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: be full freedom. I'm a channel in this moment. I'm

978
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: a vessel. I need to listen, I need to hear.

979
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: But there was so much stress, depression, division amongst my team,

980
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: everything just just I mean, one thing after next, like

981
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: so much. It just couldn't. It just couldn't. And then

982
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: my dad died, and then it really couldn't because that

983
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 2: was my that was that was it was my dude.

984
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, but here we are back. I feel and

985
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: it's got to feel. It's gotta when you have the

986
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: freedom too, when you're not having to wh're not struggling,

987
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: you don't have to force things out and throw things out,

988
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: and you can take your time and make sure it's

989
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: what you want to present in that I'm I got.

990
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 2: I played it for someone the other day, like someone,

991
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 2: someone who, someone who knows, who really really knows, who's

992
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 2: been doing, who's been on top for a very long time. Yeah,

993
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: he called my music tall and mighty, m tall and might,

994
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: he said, I think I wrote it down. I wrote

995
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 2: it all down because it was like I was liked

996
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: and you get these you know, I've had moments like that.

997
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 2: I knew, I knew, I knew what I was doing

998
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: was if you got how much longer are you guys

999
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: in town.

1000
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 3: Long enough to hear it? That's all that mattered, But

1001
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 3: how long we're here?

1002
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: Because I'm trying to see if you're gonna be here

1003
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 2: when I get back, you get back Sunday, I leave

1004
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: for Tonight's we're back Sunday. I was wondering if you

1005
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: guys will still be here anyway. I would love to play,

1006
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: but yeah, there are moments when you get this and

1007
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: this was like yeah, so anyway, I feel like We're

1008
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: starting to take meetings to figure out where we how

1009
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: we want to do this thing, where we want to do.

1010
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: This got and lifted offering.

1011
00:56:53,600 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 2: Man, go ahead with some right here. I don't have cash.

1012
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,959
Speaker 2: Can I venmo in church?

1013
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 3: This for y'all? This you know, I mean that for y'all.

1014
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 3: Just lifted in church, just praise and worship.

1015
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: Listen. Now we can talk about God. We can go

1016
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: there too.

1017
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah mm hmm.

1018
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: He'll let you know. He'll let You'll make it real obvious.

1019
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: God'll let you know. If you ask, he'll let you know.

1020
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: He wants you to know.

1021
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: We want to know something to them. What who would

1022
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: we like to know? Top five?

1023
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: Yes? Your top five? Yes, top five, you're top, come

1024
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: on anything. All the songs.

1025
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: Okay, you got to go.

1026
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: You got to show. You got to doll your.

1027
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 4: Top Yeah right, yeah, your tip.

1028
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 3: All right?

1029
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: That boy good? Carrie Willson. Yes, your top five R

1030
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: and B singers.

1031
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, gotta be in that thing.

1032
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: Michael.

1033
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm an eighties baby.

1034
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: You like Big Mike?

1035
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: Which one?

1036
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: Which one you want? All Mike?

1037
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 3: Mike, Mike all the time, all the time.

1038
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, mm hmm hmm. Mariah Carrey is in there, I think,

1039
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: because I'm talking. If we're talking mine, this is carry

1040
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: you list who matters to you?

1041
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 3: Little car?

1042
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: Who mattered to who raised?

1043
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 4: Yes?

1044
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: It was I wrote it, I wrote, I wrote, I

1045
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: wrote a letter to go to camp.

1046
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: Mariah.

1047
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yes I did. I was really young. No,

1048
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: we moved. Mom said she mailed it. We moved and

1049
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 2: I found the fucking letter.

1050
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 3: I was so mad she didn't mail it.

1051
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: She didn't mail it, she didn't send it off. I

1052
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 2: had a real good shot, you know, I'm a writer,

1053
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: like you know.

1054
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: I wrote, Yes, the.

1055
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: I found it in the door of the death like betrayal, betrayal,

1056
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: how you rolling mom my first dose? All right, So Michael, Mariah,

1057
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: Lauren Hill would be in that Lauren, Lauren's in there

1058
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: for sure? Who I say, Mike, Mariah, Bobby Brown.

1059
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Bobby up there around Bobby.

1060
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 2: And I said, Lauren Hill was that for I'm gonna

1061
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: give it to you. I'm gonna give you the fifth loot.

1062
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:43,479
Speaker 3: Boy boy.

1063
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. When Jay told that story, when I said

1064
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm a huge tank, that was real. Like Polo asked

1065
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: me to stop saying your name and interviews when they

1066
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: were asking me my musical influences are people that I

1067
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: was inspired by, Like he's to ask me to stop

1068
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 2: saying Tank. Yes, Yes, that's what he did.

1069
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: That's what he did. We gotta talk, man, it's too much,

1070
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: too much. Take it's too much.

1071
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bobby, I don't know why. I don't know, but

1072
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: I would.

1073
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, Top five R and B songs because

1074
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: we know you're a writer.

1075
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 3: You know, we know what you do.

1076
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: Okay, rock with you? Yeah, up, rock with you. Yeah,

1077
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it to rock with you. No, not

1078
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: that one. Not even want to rock with you.

1079
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 5: Not just to a too for those because you can

1080
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 5: kind of get both of them off.

1081
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 3: You said the title, it could be the Bobby all

1082
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: the m J. But rock with You by Bobby Browns

1083
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 3: is so cool. It is.

1084
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: It's a cultural.

1085
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, it's a it's a feeling you feel good

1086
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 3: when you hear that.

1087
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: You do, who don't, who don't? And it was a

1088
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: toss up between that and Ronnie, but I think I

1089
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:22,959
Speaker 2: would give it to it was it was a toss

1090
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 2: up in my mind, like which one? But it's a

1091
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: Bobby one on there for sure. I'm talking all time.

1092
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: It's hard to do top.

1093
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 3: Somewhere up there when you mentioned the the top ever

1094
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 3: debut R and B album, because that wasn't he would

1095
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 3: have it in the group. But I'm talking about strong

1096
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 3: easy facts, facts, my prerogative.

1097
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: Easy facts.

1098
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 3: You can put that up against anything. You put that

1099
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 3: album up against anything.

1100
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: That's very breaking my heart, pretty bad eyes. That's a

1101
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 2: strong one, because that's like that was kind of the

1102
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: eraror where you started to hear live music, you know,

1103
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 2: and not everything wasn't.

1104
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: Programmed, started to hear.

1105
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess I don't know it just band

1106
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 2: his voice is gonna cut through. Ready you're not? Yeah,

1107
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: I'll give you what come on, Kevin and mad Yes,

1108
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: oh come on, I started, I started?

1109
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 5: What was it it was? It was like, yeah, it's

1110
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 5: like when the first time I saw him singing that

1111
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 5: loud with the punch him in his face.

1112
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: Wow, you can't be Yeah, I do that okay.

1113
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 3: In full chat. I can get that off in falls

1114
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 3: full chance. I can't get that off it. Just he's

1115
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 3: gonna do it every night, every night, every day.

1116
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: Man, this is tough. All right. This was definitely going

1117
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 2: in there. Don't stop the music. People's in Yarborough. I

1118
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: don't know why it's people. I thought it was Yarbor

1119
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: and people's. But anyway, that baseline and her voice. I

1120
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 2: got four more.

1121
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 3: Come on?

1122
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: Can I just throw them out there? Atlantic Star always girl,

1123
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: you are me? Oh that should be and I dedicated

1124
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: to you.

1125
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: That's enough.

1126
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 2: Nothing even matters. Ah, It's one of my ones. As

1127
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: soon as I get home, Faith Evans, Yes, thank.

1128
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: You, thank you, thank you.

1129
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm giving.

1130
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 3: I get mad at people if they don't know that song.

1131
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 3: What I've been mad at some people that you don't

1132
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 3: know this song. I played it for an adult who

1133
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 3: didn't know it, and it was like, wait, wait, wait.

1134
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: Wait way I got I got Faith Evans as a gift.

1135
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: The girl at the time knew how much I love

1136
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: Faith and got me the cossette as a gift.

1137
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 3: We need you on the podcast.

1138
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 2: Faith Please love her, love her and computer love.

1139
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: Come on with Charlie.

1140
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, insane fact, we got something else for you. We're

1141
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 3: not just gonna let you go out of here without

1142
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 3: this right now? Huh what you got saying? Saying? No?

1143
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.

1144
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 3: Where you was what you did?

1145
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: Don't say? I ain't saying no name.

1146
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 3: Huh oh, we got carry he'llson hot in the hot seate.

1147
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 2: Now, I don't like I don't like y'all all that.

1148
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: I don't like your games.

1149
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because you know this is

1150
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: this segment is important. I ain't saying no names thing.

1151
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: I gotta find a story in my head that people

1152
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: can't link to.

1153
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 3: Man, listen, it's this up to you. It's your story.

1154
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 3: But you gotta tell us a story because you hear

1155
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 3: and this is I ain't saying no names. Will you

1156
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 3: tell us a story funny or fucked up? Are funny

1157
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 3: and fucked up? The only rule to the game is

1158
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 3: that you can ain't say no names funny. And you've

1159
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 3: had trivos in this game. You've been in this thing.

1160
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 3: He was on the shelf for five years. Ship that

1161
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 3: could have happen when I was on the shelf, when

1162
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 3: you was off the shelf. You know what, what what

1163
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 3: little Lillo say, Rit me off the plastic and make

1164
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 3: a brand new Yeah, when you got off the shelf too,

1165
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 3: you know yeah, you know you know that no boys allowed?

1166
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 3: You know you know what I mean? When you were

1167
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,919
Speaker 3: you weren't playing with little boys. You told them, ain't

1168
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 3: no boys allowed around here playing No little boy, little

1169
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 3: last boy as a boy, I'm not playing you made

1170
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 3: you had chains and ship. I remember you was selling chains.

1171
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: People still show up with their no boys allowed chain

1172
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: to my current merch, the old merch on merch. Yeah

1173
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 2: that's like what thirteen years.

1174
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 3: M Let me know your eddy, Oh yeah, oh yeah.

1175
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 3: Let me bring you on and ship, Let me bring

1176
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 3: you on in. This is this is, this is Carrie Hoiston.

1177
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 3: You're turning me on.

1178
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 1: Knock it out.

1179
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 3: Ain't no boys allowed you to come in here as

1180
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 3: a motherfucking grown ass man.

1181
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: Pretty pretty good around here, because.

1182
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, carry I ain't saying no names. Oh yeah, the

1183
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 3: deep side and took a sip of water too.

1184
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 2: All right. When you're a performer, yes, you know, we

1185
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: know how important it is to give love to other performers. Yes, right,

1186
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,759
Speaker 2: especially when you happened to be sitting on the front

1187
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: row at their show. M okay, mind you, no one else,

1188
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: no one else was performing. Was anybody else performing that night?

1189
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 2: Do you know what night I'm even referring to?

1190
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 3: Yet?

1191
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: Okay, it's fine, all right, fine for him too, Yes

1192
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: he was there. Okay, So I remember I don't want

1193
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 2: to be here energy. M M, I don't know why

1194
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 2: I'm here. She was with a gentleman, he was she

1195
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 2: was his guest. I know the guy very well. She

1196
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: was with him, so she was his you know. She

1197
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 2: didn't want to be there. It was very obvious, and

1198
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: I felt disrespected by that. So when they came to

1199
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 2: my dressing room backstage, I said something and we almost

1200
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: got to scrapping. My decatur came out, her town came out,

1201
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 2: uh and uh. It could have got real ugly.

1202
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate you being in the front row on my

1203
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: show and giving me no energy.

1204
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly how I said it, but it

1205
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 2: was worse than that. It was, but it was that.

1206
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 2: It was that it was like we spell artists. You

1207
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: already know what it's like. You could give a courtesy, Bob.

1208
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things you can do, a lot

1209
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 2: of things you can do to show to show love.

1210
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: But she was this.

1211
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 3: Mmm damn in the front row.

1212
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: She was that business, looking at the nasty business, and

1213
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: I just felt on her phone, Oh, while everybody else

1214
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 2: is standing up around here, I was just like, oh,

1215
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: this is intentionally rude, Like you you want to get slapped.

1216
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 2: That's how I felt you've you're calling me, you're speaking

1217
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: to a certain spirit.

1218
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you doubted.

1219
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 2: Like I said, I I've always been secular.

1220
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 3: Do they have those rocks?

1221
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 2: She doted up on them?

1222
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 3: They got those rocks?

1223
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 2: It up, that's why. That's why I got the gyms.

1224
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 2: Now keep it, keep it on. Keep just why I got.

1225
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 2: That's exactly why we haven't because this is on me, now, don't.

1226
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 2: I don't like to go there.

1227
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: But it almost went there.

1228
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, like people had to be ushered away, people had

1229
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 2: to be it was. It was that because I had

1230
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: to say something. I had to say something. I had

1231
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 2: to figure out what the it was because I felt

1232
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 2: disrespect the whole show. Come on, man, come on, you

1233
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 2: don't do that unless you want, unless you are purposely

1234
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: I guess. So now you know what I'm talking about.

1235
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: And who remember? You don't remember who it was? Yeah,

1236
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: she's pretty insignificant at this point.

1237
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: And well yeah, Carrie, uh, but I ain't say you

1238
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: ain't saying he saying no name. We appreciate you, man,

1239
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: you have you have put in a lot of a

1240
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: lot of amazing work, a lot of amazing and from

1241
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: what it sounds like, you have more amazing work to come.

1242
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to hear it.

1243
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 1: Being so, we are anticipating more greatness from you. You're dope.

1244
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it inside man. Thank you, appreciate it,

1245
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: thank you.

1246
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1247
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: And likewise, and this is the R and B Money

1248
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: podcast authority on all things R and B. This has

1249
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 1: been the amazing carry my boys.

1250
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

1251
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 3: R and B Money. R and B Money is a

1252
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 3: production of the Black Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts

1253
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:06,879
Speaker 3: from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

1254
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 3: you listen to your favorite shows. Don't forget to subscribe

1255
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 3: to and rate our show, and you can connect with

1256
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 3: us on social media at Jyvalentine and at the Real Tank.

1257
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 3: For the extended episode, subscribe to YouTube dot com, forward

1258
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 3: slash R and B Money