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Speaker 1: Welcome it, everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Much to discuss with all

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Speaker 1: of you across this great land of ours.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 1: It is steamy down here in South Florida, I can

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Speaker 1: tell you that much. I'm hearing other places too, feel

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Speaker 1: in the heat. Feeling the heat good time.

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Speaker 3: It's hot in the summer. Every year they seem to

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Speaker 3: decide that, oh, my goodness, this is the impact of

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Speaker 3: global warming and everything else. But I can impress upon

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Speaker 3: you that it has been hot for a long time.

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Speaker 1: This is the kind of a student analysis we bring

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Speaker 1: to you on Clay and Buck. Reminder, it gets hot

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Speaker 1: in the middle of summer in much of this country

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Speaker 1: of ours. So yes, indeed, true story. And if you

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Speaker 1: have the chance, this is a great time to get

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Speaker 1: into some shade, preferably despite what the Europeans think, indoors

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Speaker 1: with air conditioning, because air conditioning is one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest inventions of the last one hundred years or so.

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Speaker 1: And keep back, relax, listen to some Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 1: That is the way to beat the heat, my friends,

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Speaker 1: best way to do it. So we've got some very

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Speaker 1: good news. We're to dive into on the economy, and

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Speaker 1: then we have some distressing but not surprising news about

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Speaker 1: the flagship propaganda newspaper of the Democrats of the New

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Speaker 1: York Times, that we will dive into, as well as

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Speaker 1: some follow up to stories from yesterday. Donald Trump also

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of commentary on Gaza on the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal suits that he now has the deep state

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Speaker 1: and more. So, we've got a lot to dive in.

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Speaker 1: Let's start though, with this because I think it is

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Speaker 1: one of those times where even the people who clay

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Speaker 1: pretty much spend all day thinking about how to bash Trump,

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Speaker 1: undermine him, say he's terrible, doesn't know what he's doing,

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Speaker 1: they're having to step back and say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: What's going on with this economy.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I wasn't right when those people weren't right when

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Speaker 1: they said tariffs, we're gonna ruin everything. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: this Q two quarter two growth rate, CNBC's Rick Santelli

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Speaker 1: laying it out for you, play one.

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Speaker 4: We are expecting a number round two and a half percent,

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Speaker 4: and they're out of three percent, up three percent better

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Speaker 4: than expected. That would be the highest level since the

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Speaker 4: third quarter of twenty four, when it was up three

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Speaker 4: point one percent on the consumption side, up one point four,

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Speaker 4: very close to estimates. Up one point four would be

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Speaker 4: the best since the last quarter of twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Clay, it's a surprise to people who thought Trump was

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Speaker 1: going to tank the economy. But I'm just going to say,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna I think we're gonna have to ride along

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Speaker 1: on Trump's victory lap here for a moment. We told

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Speaker 1: everybody he's earned the right to the trade negotiations the

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Speaker 1: way that he wants to. He has earned a space

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Speaker 1: for everyone to take a beat. You said, don't sell.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that was very good advice. We're not

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Speaker 1: a financial show, but better advice here than you get

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Speaker 1: on a lot of other financial shows. Don't sell. Trump

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Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. Three percent growth, and just real quickly,

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Speaker 1: before we die, here's the NBC's Joe Kernin and Rick

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Speaker 1: Santelli just having a laugh at all the Trump haters

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Speaker 1: on the economy because that is richuly deserved.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Play two.

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Speaker 5: The left and people that don't like the president and

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Speaker 5: don't want things to work, and you know, like Center

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Speaker 5: Elizabeth Wore will come on and say.

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Speaker 2: Inflation's out of controling.

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Speaker 5: The economy is getting killed by what's happening by these tariffs.

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Speaker 5: This three percent with the market at new highs, and

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Speaker 5: really we haven't seen inflation, you know, go up back

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Speaker 5: see it. But none of these horrible things have happened.

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Speaker 5: But they still talk like it's happening.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: The Democrats, of course, as you pointed out, really don't

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Speaker 4: want to see the current administration have some success. But

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Speaker 4: there's no doubt that this is some success. We're seeing

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Speaker 3: I think what you should start to contemplate, and I

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Speaker 3: the so called experts are consistently proven wrong time after time,

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Speaker 3: the people who end up being the most right are

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Speaker 3: actually I think it was a really deep dive on hedgehogs.

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Speaker 3: That's people who don't go super deep on necessarily everything,

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Speaker 3: is we were told if there are tariffs put in place,

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Speaker 3: And you saw everybody flood the market collapse in April,

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Speaker 3: the likes of which, frankly, we hadn't really seen since COVID,

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Speaker 3: and we said on this show, as you pointed out,

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Speaker 3: hey just stay calm. If you happen to have added resources,

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Speaker 3: now is a good time to buy. Stocks are up

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Speaker 3: nearly thirty percent just since April. If you bought the dip,

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Speaker 3: if you just stayed in, you're do and fine. If

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Speaker 3: so I think there's this obsession with believing that experts

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Speaker 3: I look. They were wrong on inflation, they were wrong

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Speaker 3: on tariffs, They've been wrong economically on everything.

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Speaker 1: They were wrong on COVID, across the board.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, with the very few exceptions.

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Speaker 1: I saw our friend doctor McCarry on Fox this morning

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Speaker 1: how streamlining that could mean cures for people a lot faster,

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Speaker 1: could save could save lives and also add quality of life. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's there's cures, there's also effective treatment which can be

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Speaker 1: really debilitating diseases. And he's an expert who said the

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Speaker 1: him what happens when you're right, which is you should

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Speaker 1: be elevated. What you see the expert class in general, though,

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Speaker 1: Clay is they all fall prey to consensus thinking, the

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Speaker 1: what's likely to happen next, were far better at predictive analysis.

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Speaker 1: Because once you've been doing something for a long time,

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Speaker 1: you tend to think that whatever everybody else thinks doing

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Speaker 1: that same thing is the answer, right, that that's the

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Speaker 1: way it's going to be. Certainly that is the case

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Speaker 1: the case in the economy. And why do we all

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Speaker 1: care about this, Well, because it affects the price of

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Speaker 1: And this is what's remarkable, and I think this is

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Speaker 1: And there were some very funny memes from when he

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Speaker 1: went and visited the FED.

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Speaker 2: Yes, redo of the building that they.

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Speaker 1: Were, but the fact that rates haven't even dropped yet.

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Speaker 1: That would be the kind of rocket fuel you'd add

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Speaker 2: A little bit.

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Speaker 1: This economy is already humming, and they've.

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Speaker 2: Kept the rates artificially high.

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Speaker 3: Here's my concern now, buck, and I haven't heard anybody

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Speaker 3: concern now that we've hit three percent growth, and look,

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Speaker 3: we need to get the economy really roaring. We need

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Speaker 3: to get four percent growth, three and a half percent growth.

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Speaker 3: That would be transformative. It would actually give us a

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Speaker 2: Growth cures everything. Right.

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Speaker 3: If you've ever worked in a business, I remember I

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Speaker 3: to be perfect on everything. Four percent growth in the

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: You also have, I think, with Trump, in many ways

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Speaker 1: Trump's has negotiated deals that haven't gone his way when

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Speaker 1: be far more valued when you're thinking about who to

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Speaker 1: put in charge of big decisions for the country instead

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Speaker 1: of I have some advanced degree from some economics program.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't it to President Bartlett from the fantasyland of the

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Speaker 1: something in economics? And that's what all the Libs think

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Speaker 1: would solve all of our problems. Most of the PhDs

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Speaker 1: Compared to Trump, it wouldn't even be close well, And

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Speaker 1: that's why I think there. Look, I love it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a history nerd, but history professors are

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Speaker 3: go on. Remember Michael Beschlow said, if Trump wins, they're

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Speaker 1: And we've got a story that we absolutely need to

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Speaker 1: on October seventh, after they had the most horrific terrorist

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Speaker 1: a level of sadism the from Hamas that is shocking

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Speaker 1: to the conscience. Honestly, even for those of us who

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Speaker 1: did things in the GWATT and saw how evil al

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Speaker 1: Qaeda was and what they would do shocking to the conscience.

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Speaker 1: But this reminds me Clay of really is this is

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Speaker 1: on brand in a sense for the New York Times.

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Speaker 1: The New York Times is the paper that published Walter Duranti,

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Speaker 1: who on behalf of communism, lied about mass starvation in

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Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. Right, this is one of the most

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Speaker 1: infamous episodes of twentieth century journalism. Should have told you

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Speaker 1: all you need to know about the lib mindset and journals.

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Speaker 1: But Walter Duranti lied to cover up mass starvation in

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Speaker 1: the Soviet Union back in the nineteen early nineteen thirties,

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Speaker 1: and he actually got a Pulitzer Prize for it. Clay,

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Speaker 1: doesn't this all ring a bell? Just like the fake

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Speaker 1: Russia collusion stories. Those people got pulletzers. They still have them.

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Speaker 1: The purpose is not the truth. The purpose is manipulation

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Speaker 1: of the masses of the minds of the readers. And

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Speaker 1: the purpose here was very clearly now is the chance

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Speaker 1: after we saw how horrific Hamas was, and they took

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Speaker 1: two hundred plus hostages, and they raped women, and they

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Speaker 1: murdered babies, and they did all these horrible things intentionally

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Speaker 1: and on behalf of the people planning October seventh. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this was their plan. This wasn't some secondary thing that

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Speaker 1: just happened after all that now is the chance to

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Speaker 1: try to seize the moral high ground for the pro

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Speaker 1: Palestinian pro Hamas lunatics, and we're supposed to think it's

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Speaker 1: just an error play that The New York Times runs

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Speaker 1: a story that is essentially a fake story on when

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Speaker 1: you use a photo and say it is a thing

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Speaker 1: or represents a thing and it does not, which is

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Speaker 1: starvation of a child. That is not starvation that caused

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Speaker 1: that child to look that way, as anybody who knows

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Speaker 1: anything about the diseases that he had pre existing knows.

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Speaker 1: And then they cut out the photo of the healthy

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Speaker 1: looking little boy in.

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Speaker 2: The same photo.

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Speaker 3: It should began over again on the front page. I

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Speaker 3: would also point this out, and I think it's very

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Speaker 3: significant all of their errors have been in favor of Gaza.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember soon after.

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Speaker 3: October seventh, when Israel started to respond after the October

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Speaker 3: seventh attack, and all of these major news outlets, I

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Speaker 3: believe it was, they said that Israel had struck a

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Speaker 3: hospital and killed tons of people.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that story.

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Speaker 3: It was on the front page everywhere, and it later

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Speaker 3: came out that it was a misfired rocket from Gaza

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Speaker 3: that actually from that is from Hamas, that actually hit

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Speaker 3: the hospital in Gaza, and so they allowed the story

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Speaker 3: to be Oh, Israel's intentionally targeting hospitals and killing innocent people.

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Speaker 3: Put it on the front page of the newspaper. If

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Speaker 3: your errors look, reporting is hard, right, Let's be honest.

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Speaker 3: Trying to tell the truth is a hard job when

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Speaker 3: they're lots of people trying to manipulate you all the time.

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Speaker 3: So I will say that, but if your errors always

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Speaker 3: run the same direction, it is a flaw of your

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Speaker 3: reporting that should be addressed because it is a sign.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's a flaw.

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Speaker 1: I think that gives them too much Creditally, I think

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Speaker 1: that the mission, the mission is the propaganda. Actually, I

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Speaker 1: don't think that this is a mistake. I think that

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Speaker 1: they know that this is what they are supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: They are playing for their team with this. And what

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Speaker 1: does it say if the starvation and the New York

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Speaker 1: Times is still saying, oh, there's mass starvation in Gaza,

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Speaker 1: what are the chances that there are children and this

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Speaker 1: is a horrific thing to even think about, but that

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Speaker 1: there are children who are starving to death in massive

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Speaker 1: numbers in Gaza. There are skeletal looking children who are

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Speaker 1: clinging to life all over Gaza. This is what we

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Speaker 1: are being told by the New York Times. But they

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Speaker 1: happen to pick a photo of somebody that is not starving,

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Speaker 1: a young child who is not starving. Very sad story,

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Speaker 1: assistic fibrosis, but he's not starving, and that's the photo

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Speaker 1: they put on the front page of the newspaper. You're

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Speaker 1: supposed to think that this is an error made in

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Speaker 1: good faith. Absolutely not, absolutely not. And the fact that

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Speaker 1: they won't really correct it in a way that will

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Speaker 1: change the perception of the people who read the original

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Speaker 1: story all over Clay. It was picked up all over

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Speaker 1: the world. It's not just New York Times readers. It's

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Speaker 1: all over the internet. It's everywhere. What do you think

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Speaker 1: it looks like, you know, in the Middle East newspapers

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Speaker 1: and websites, to the degree that those things really exist, Well,

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Speaker 1: what do you think it looks like there now?

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Speaker 2: After that photo? What do their readers think? It is reckless?

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Speaker 1: Beyond wards, The New York Times is a disgrace. It

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Speaker 1: is not an honest entity. It is not a good

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Speaker 1: faith journalistic operation. They are pure left wing anti civilization propagandists,

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Speaker 1: and everyone needs to read their articles with that in mind.

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Speaker 2: That's how I feel better. At least so I.

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Speaker 3: Think it's true. But I think at a bare minimum

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Speaker 3: the pressure. I think Carol Markowitz is right. You can't

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Speaker 3: have an error that egregious and just post from your

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Speaker 3: New York Times pr account, which a you know probably

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Speaker 3: what one in ten thousand people will actually see the correction.

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Speaker 3: You should have to put on the front page the

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Speaker 3: full picture that you edited and acknowledged that you told

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Speaker 3: something that was fundamentally untrue that impacted in a significant

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Speaker 3: way the discussion around how Israel in Gaza. Israel is

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Speaker 3: handling the situation in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: You're completely right.

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Speaker 1: I would just add to this, the people who picked

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Speaker 1: that photo did not do so in error. They picked

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Speaker 1: that photo because their fundamental role here is to try

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Speaker 1: to create at least moral equivalency between Israel and Hamas,

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Speaker 1: if not. The Palestinians are the good guys, Israel the

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Speaker 1: bad guys. That's their actual job in their minds. Also,

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Speaker 1: I will point out.

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Speaker 3: Remember all those people out there that we're supposed to

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Speaker 3: be fact finding experts on misinformation and disinformation. This seems

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Speaker 3: like a pretty egregious example of that that should be

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Speaker 3: widely covered by other media outlets that care about the truth.

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Speaker 3: Are you seeing any of those articles, know any of

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Speaker 3: those media discussions. I'm not seeing it anywhere.

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Speaker 3: We'll get some of your calls. Eight hundred and two

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Speaker 3: eighty two two eight eight to two Scott in Indiana,

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Speaker 3: what you got for us?

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Speaker 6: Hey, keep up the good work. I can't tell whether

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Speaker 6: Trump thinks Israel starving the people on purpose or not.

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Speaker 6: If he is, it would be ironic considering a couple

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Speaker 6: of weeks ago he chastised everybody for falling for the

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Speaker 6: Epstein hoax. So you think he's do you think.

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Speaker 2: This is Scott?

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Speaker 1: This is really important, This is really important. There is

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Speaker 1: widespread reporting that I think is reliable, that there is

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Speaker 1: that food is not getting to people insufficient you know,

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Speaker 1: insufficient quantity in Gaza, including children who are probably or

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Speaker 1: who rather are malnourished, not yet starving that, but malnourished

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Speaker 1: as a result of it. But Hamas is preventing the

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Speaker 1: food from getting to them, is the point. And so

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Speaker 1: then to make this an even more emotional issue, they

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Speaker 1: pick this photo and they say, oh, see this is

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Speaker 1: what Israel is deciding to do to people. So there's

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Speaker 1: the who's responsible for it, and then there's the degree

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Speaker 1: of how much is food not getting So Hamas is

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Speaker 1: preventing food from getting through in the numbers that it

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Speaker 1: should be getting or in the quantity it should be

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Speaker 1: getting through. And then the New York Times is picking

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Speaker 1: this story to make it seem like this is an

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Speaker 1: Israeli plot or Israeli decision.

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Speaker 3: Also, if Israel wanted to kill everyone in Gaza, they

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Speaker 3: could have done it two years ago, they could have

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Speaker 3: carpet bombed everyone and legitimately killed everybody who lives in Gaza.

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Speaker 3: They have the wherewithal and the power and the ability

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Speaker 3: to do that. Look at the attempted tactical strikes. Look

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Speaker 3: at what happened in Iran. They pretty much only killed

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Speaker 3: They hit apartment building units that that Iranian nuclear scientists

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Speaker 3: were in and didn't touch anybody else. And why let's

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Speaker 3: just put this in the cold, hard reality, real polity

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Speaker 3: for a second. At this stage of the game, Israel

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Speaker 3: is going to intentionally starve children to death to turn

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Speaker 3: the whole world against it. Of course, not that's insane.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying children aren't starving. I'm saying, look at

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Speaker 3: who's responsible for preventing the food from getting to them,

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Speaker 3: and look at how the New York Times is then

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Speaker 3: trying to lie about that culpability. We're joined by Senator

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Speaker 3: Mike Lee of the Great State of Senator Lee, thanks

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Speaker 3: for joining us on the fly, sir, appreciate.

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Speaker 11: You, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Can we just dive into this, well, Clay, do we

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Speaker 1: want to do judges and US attorneys first?

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Speaker 2: You want to do? We want to do the redistricting first.

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Speaker 1: Because I got to ask you what is going on

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Speaker 1: here with the log jam on the judges and US

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Speaker 1: attorneys and what should we do about it.

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Speaker 11: Look, we've got a confirmation backlog in the Senate. President

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Speaker 11: Trump has sent one hundreds of nominees over We currently

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Speaker 11: have a Senate confirmation backlog of about one hundred and

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Speaker 11: fifty people now just day be four. Yesterday that number

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Speaker 11: stood at one hundred and forty four. We're now approaching

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Speaker 11: one hundred and fifty. We're adding to that base every

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Speaker 11: day the Senate's in session. And if we leave for

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Speaker 11: August recess without meaningfully confronting this, then we're never going

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Speaker 11: to catch up. And the result of that is awful

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Speaker 11: because here's what happens. Remember, the deep state bureaucrats, the

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Speaker 11: career civil servant bureaucrats, are overwhelmingly leftist. They're overwhelmingly democratic.

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Speaker 11: So this is different than if the Democrats were in

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Speaker 11: power and Republicans were delying them. When that happens and

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Speaker 11: a Democrat nominee doesn't get through, well they still have

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Speaker 11: a Democrat liberal Democrat in most cases running to show

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Speaker 11: at whatever executive branch agency they're putting them in. Because

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Speaker 11: that's what the deep state bureaucrats are. But when it's Republicans,

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Speaker 11: we're surrendering to the other party. We can't let that happen.

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Speaker 11: Here's the thing. We've been blaming the dams in appropriately,

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Speaker 11: so they've been delaying. But we have to remember, this

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Speaker 11: more or less since Harry Renuuke's the executive Philip Busher

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Speaker 11: back in November of twenty thirteen. This is what they

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Speaker 11: do now. Democrats do it to a more severe degree.

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Speaker 11: We cooperate it more with them than they are with us.

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Speaker 11: But regardless, saying that they're doing it worse doesn't fix

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Speaker 11: the problem. There is only one thing that fixes this

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Speaker 11: problem in the modern summit, in the modern Senate, which

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Speaker 11: is the principle of exhaustion. We have to exhaust them

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Speaker 11: into compliance. We have to keep them here until such

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Speaker 11: some as we've cleared the backlog, and we have to

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Speaker 11: make them vote, including it inconvenient times and hours and weeks.

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Speaker 11: Wouldn't it much rather be somewhere else? That is the

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Speaker 11: only way to fix it. If we keep them here,

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Speaker 11: keep them voting, we end the backlog. If we don't,

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Speaker 11: we surrender to the deep date and therefore the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: By the way, let me mention this, the Fed, as

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Speaker 3: we told you was likely going to be the case,

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Speaker 3: has declined to lower interest rates, although there are dissenters

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Speaker 3: from inside of the FED saying, hey, we should be

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Speaker 3: cutting rates. So just fyi, they have left interest rates unchanged.

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Speaker 3: But that is the That is the literally breaking news

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Speaker 3: as we start the third hour of the program here. Okay, sender,

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Speaker 3: thanks for coming on. What is in your mind the solution?

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Speaker 3: Because I was asking about how recess appointments might be applied.

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Speaker 3: President Trump has not used the recess appointment opportunity. What

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Speaker 3: are the disadvantages associated with doing that in a way

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Speaker 3: that people like me can understand without going into all

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Speaker 3: of the just sort of the labyrinth of all of

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Speaker 3: the different Senate parliamentarian aspects.

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Speaker 11: Yep, all right, So the biggest single disadvantage is that

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Speaker 11: a recess appointment can't stay indefinitely the Constitution. The recess

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Speaker 11: appointee can remain in there in essence on the current

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Speaker 11: interpretations of that clause, they can stay in there. If

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Speaker 11: they are recess appointed now, they could stay in there

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Speaker 11: till the end of next year. Till the end of

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty six. It's the biggest disadvantage. But the other

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Speaker 11: reason why President Trump hasn't used that is that more

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Speaker 11: or less for the last decade plus, since at least

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Speaker 11: around twenty thirteen, it started a big Before then, the

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Speaker 11: Senate typically has been holding what are called pro forma

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Speaker 11: sessions even while for puting to go into recess I

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Speaker 11: mean reconvening every three days one member comes in, gabbles in,

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Speaker 11: gabbles out, in order to avoid the technicality of going

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Speaker 11: into recess for constitutional purposes. In other words, these pro

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Speaker 11: forma sessions basically serve one purpose, which is to prevent

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Speaker 11: the President of the United States from making recess appointments.

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Speaker 11: So that's the biggest disadvantage. Bears that we haven't made

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Speaker 11: it possible, and that's why I've been saying the best

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Speaker 11: thing for us to do, the only way I believe

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Speaker 11: we're going to end the lodge Ham and the impass,

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Speaker 11: is for us to make the Democrats and Republicans stay

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Speaker 11: here and cast votes even when, especially when it's difficult

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Speaker 11: or inconvenient, or members would rather be somewhere else. It's

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Speaker 11: the only surefire way to end this now, sure that

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Speaker 11: if the Senate unwikely decides to recess anyway, and for

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Speaker 11: the love of Pete, we should actually recess and stop

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Speaker 11: holding these pro forma sessions that have as their principal

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Speaker 11: function preventing the President of the United States from exercising

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Speaker 11: the recess appointment power under the Constitution.

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Speaker 1: And it feels like there's a lot of games going

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Speaker 1: on here, Senator Lee, within these rules, and yet the blue.

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Speaker 2: Slip rule is sacred.

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Speaker 1: Can you give me a little more on this one,

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Speaker 1: because Trump obviously thinks that enough is enough with the

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Speaker 1: blue slip nonsense.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's right now to bring your audience

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Speaker 11: up to speak. The blue slip in the Senate basically

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Speaker 11: does the following for correlated The way it works is

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Speaker 11: that for a federal district judge, a federal trial court

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Speaker 11: level judge, for a US attorney or US marshal in

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Speaker 11: somebody state, the Senate Judiciary Committee has long refused to

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Speaker 11: process a presidential nominee in lesser until such time as

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Speaker 11: the two home state senators have signed a document that

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Speaker 11: is historically written out on blue paper. That's what we

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Speaker 11: call it, the blue slips. I'm okay with these nominees. Now,

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Speaker 11: the blue slip has around been around for many decades.

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Speaker 11: It is not mandated by statute, it's not imposed by rule.

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Speaker 11: It is a custom. It is moreover, not something that's

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Speaker 11: been carved into stone tablets. It is not an xurable command,

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Speaker 11: and it has been modified in practice over many years,

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Speaker 11: meaning when one side of the aisle abuses it consistently,

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Speaker 11: it often morphs in order to accommodate them. Now, we've

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Speaker 11: always had the understanding that if you push it too far,

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Speaker 11: like any other privilege, it'll be taken away. I had

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Speaker 11: the understanding and the last administration, for example, when dealing

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Speaker 11: with the Obama administration, I knew that I had to

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Speaker 11: make recommendations to them on district judges, US attorneys, US marshals,

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Speaker 11: and so forth. I had to make my blue slip

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Speaker 11: recommendations to them realistically, and that I wasn't necessarily going

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Speaker 11: to get it away with recommending people who were lifelong,

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Speaker 11: well known, staunch, openly conservative textualist originalists for example. We

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Speaker 11: just understood that the nominees might be a little bit

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Speaker 11: different than what we would pick, what would prefer the

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Speaker 11: president pick during a republican administration. If the Democrats can't

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Speaker 11: accept that, and they consistently refuse to accommodate what are

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Speaker 11: Trump's reasonable minimum expectations in their states. Then I suspect

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Speaker 11: that they can, should, and probably will lose their blue

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Speaker 11: slip privileges in many instances.

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Speaker 3: We're talking to Senator Mike Lee of Utah new revelations potentially,

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Speaker 3: according to Fox News, about documents involving Russia collusion that

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Speaker 3: have been found by cash Pttel inside of FBI offices

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Speaker 3: that were supposed to have been destroyed that were not you,

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Speaker 3: I think were one of the top contenders to be

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Speaker 3: Attorney General. So you are very very well versed in

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Speaker 3: the Department of Justice. You have served, I believe as

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Speaker 3: a judge in your past life experience, you're a guy

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Speaker 3: who's been involved in a lot of these things. What

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Speaker 3: should happen as it pertains to Russia collusion based on

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Speaker 3: the evidence you have seen, not only what should what

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Speaker 3: do you think will what should our audience expect to see,

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Speaker 3: and what should they see?

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Speaker 2: In your mind, but.

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Speaker 11: Most importantly, the facts, the information will need to continue

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Speaker 11: to come out. Remember, for the last eight nine years,

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Speaker 11: we've been told a consistent lie. We've been told that

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Speaker 11: by the Democratic apparatus. We've been told that by the

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Speaker 11: mainstream media, also known as the communications arm of the

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Speaker 11: Democratic Party. We've been told lies about Russian collusion. Now,

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Speaker 11: as Jonathan Turtley noted on Fox News the other day,

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Speaker 11: there was in fact a collusive scandal at the close

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Speaker 11: of twenty sixteen related to Russia. But it just wasn't

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Speaker 11: at all what we were told. There was a scandal,

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Speaker 11: there was collusion there. But remember what happened here was

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Speaker 11: that President Obama, according to these recent revelations, went in

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Speaker 11: after the November twenty sixteen election, after Prisident Trump had

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Speaker 11: been elected President of the United States, and directed the

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Speaker 11: United States government officials in the room with him to

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Speaker 11: go out and show to find evidence, develop evidence, manufacture evidence,

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Speaker 11: manipulate evidence, however you want to put it, to demonstrate

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Speaker 11: not if not whether, but how Russia impacted the outcome

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Speaker 11: of the election and did so in Donald Trump's favor.

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Speaker 11: That simply wasn't true, and in fact, they were messing

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Speaker 11: with evidence. This is a horrific scandal, and based on

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Speaker 11: what we've learned about this already, this is arguably the

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Speaker 11: most significant political scandal in US history. And I'm not

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Speaker 11: even sure what the outcome will be. We don't have

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Speaker 11: anything else to compare it to. But the most important

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Speaker 11: part of it. There are all kinds of considerations, from

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Speaker 11: statutes of limitations to whatever it takes to get more

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Speaker 11: information out of this that will have to be taken

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Speaker 11: into account to know exactly who may be charged. But

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Speaker 11: the most important thing is that the American people learn

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Speaker 11: about it, and then we get to the bottom of

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Speaker 11: who knew what and when and hold on accountable for that.

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Speaker 3: Centerarly, we know you have to get out on the

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Speaker 3: floor and get to work. We appreciate you fitness in

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Speaker 3: to answer these questions we were talking about today. Keep

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Speaker 3: up the good work and shoot me at text when

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Speaker 3: you want to come on again.

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Speaker 2: Need to talk to the audience.

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Speaker 11: Well due, Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Center Mike Lee, great Twitter account at base Mike Lee,

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Speaker 3: I believe is the one that is the best to

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Speaker 1: Got Tommy Laren with us Now of Fox News and

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Speaker 1: OutKick and Tommy, let's just get right to it. Are

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Speaker 1: you surprised or is this right in line with expectations

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Speaker 1: to see the absolute freak out across the media when

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Speaker 1: it comes to a new ad with Sydney Sweeney for

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Speaker 12: I'm not surprised at all at the outrage in the backlash.

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Speaker 12: This is what the left does when they know they've lost,

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Speaker 12: all right, They've lost the culture war. Woke is dead,

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Speaker 12: and they are lashing out, and the charge is being

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Speaker 12: And that usually seems to be the case for all

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Speaker 12: the things that they complain about. It's led by liberal

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Speaker 12: white women. But especially when you have a hot girl

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Speaker 12: in an ad that really brings out the sayings, that

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Speaker 12: brings out the clause. I'm not surprised at all.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I am stunned, honestly, Like I get because we

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Speaker 3: hear so much about Democrats recognizing that they have lost men.

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Speaker 3: I would say that overwhelmingly, the one thing that unites

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Speaker 3: men is an appreciation for pretty girls heterosexual men anyway,

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Speaker 3: which I understand there may not be very many in

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Speaker 3: the Democrat Party already. But if you're trying to just

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Speaker 3: be normal and just be saying, complaining that an attractive

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Speaker 3: person is used to sell clothes and trying to say

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Speaker 3: it's like being a Nazi is next level crazy even

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Speaker 3: for them. So you expected that when you saw this

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Speaker 3: Sydney sweeneyad, you were like, oh, left wingers are going

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Speaker 3: to lose their mind.

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Speaker 2: Tommy.

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Speaker 3: The Atlantic has an article saying liking boobs is now conservative.

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Speaker 3: This is a legitimate article that is up in that magazine.

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Speaker 12: We may never lose an election again at this rate,

873
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 12: which is fine if they want to freak out over it.

874
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 12: But no, I'm not surprised at all. Because the left

875
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 12: of the Democrat Party has been completely captured by the

876
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 12: activists and the woke class. They won't give any of

877
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 12: these things up. They still go hard for kil mar

878
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 12: Abrego Garcia. They go hard for men and women's sports.

879
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 12: There is not a dumb hill that they will not

880
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 12: continue to die on. They love this kind of stuff.

881
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 12: I don't know who they're listening to. They're not listening

882
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 12: to you guys. They're not listening to young men or

883
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 12: even attractive young women. They're completely captured by the green

884
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 12: hairs with gauges and septum piercings. That's who they think

885
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 12: makes up the majority of this country, and they want

886
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 12: to make them happy at all costs.

887
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Speaker 2: Tommy.

888
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: You know, whenever I do a live event, if a

889
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: woman under thirty five approaches to take a photo or

890
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: to say hi or something, generally she says do you know, Tommy,

891
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: and gets very excited when I say yes, So you

892
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: certainly you certainly have your figure on the pulse of

893
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: the conservative youth in this country. And I'm wondering the

894
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: vibe shift, as they would say, in the culture. Where

895
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: are the biggest places you are seeing it? Like, what

896
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: are the things that you're seeing now that give you

897
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: hope that the opposite of what we see with the

898
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: Sydney Sweeney phenomenon is really taking root, that essentially that

899
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: insanity is fading and culture is coming back in a

900
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: way that we can all be proud of.

901
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 12: Well, normalcy is coming back. People have realized, especially young people,

902
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 12: they've realized that no, they do want to be attractive,

903
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 12: and they do want to be healthy, and they want

904
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 12: to be normal and they want to interact with people.

905
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 12: Things go in cycles, of course, and it's not just

906
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 12: fashion and style. But I will say the fashion in

907
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 12: the style right now is kind of going back to

908
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 12: the early two thousands. That's what's popular with gen Z.

909
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 12: They're resurrecting all the old clothes that I wore when

910
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 12: I was in the fifth grade, and they think that's new.

911
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 12: Fine with me, because so has the normalcy. It's like, yes, no,

912
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 12: we want to look good. No, we want to be normal.

913
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 12: We want to talk to people. We don't want to

914
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 12: have the color of hair of a green poison frog.

915
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 12: We just want to be normal. So I think that

916
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 12: you're still going to have the minority that's very loud

917
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 12: out there, and then of course on TikTok and voting

918
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 12: for socialists. But those people live in deep blue cities

919
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 12: like New York City or Los Angeles. They don't live

920
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 12: in Tennessee, they don't live in Miami. There are normal

921
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 12: people in those normal places, and I think they're taking over.

922
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 3: Okay, A secondary part of this is the idea, and

923
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 3: I know you saw the Good Morning America report, So

924
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 3: this is not some crazy left wing report in theory. Right,

925
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 3: You're sitting most people eating their cereal watching Good Morning

926
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: America today show. Good Morning America has on a report

927
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: that this is code for Nazism because you have a

928
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 3: blonde hair, blue eyed woman that is in this ad.

929
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Speaker 3: How do we and I do think this is significant

930
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: because I think you kind of have hammered this. How

931
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: do we get back to treating all races equally and

932
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 3: not being able to just say basically, white people are evil,

933
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 3: which is the code of calling anything white related Nazi

934
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Speaker 3: in relation?

935
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Speaker 2: Right, what's going on here?

936
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Speaker 12: Well, first of all, you need to stop apologizing for

937
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 12: being white. And so the more that people say, hey, listen,

938
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 12: I'm not going to apologize to you because of the

939
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Speaker 12: color of my skin. I don't expect you to do that.

940
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 12: I'm not going to do that, then we go back

941
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Speaker 12: to some level of normalcy.

942
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Speaker 11: Hair.

943
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Speaker 12: But that Good Morning America clip they had on an expert,

944
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 12: of course, a professor, and I know you saw it,

945
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 12: klay Case, you tweeted it out. But the professor that

946
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 12: they had on, ironically was a white woman who had

947
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 12: blonde hair. But there was an X factor. She was

948
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 12: also objective, objectively not attractive. So there you have it.

949
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 12: That is what who that is who is driving this primarily,

950
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Speaker 12: and then all the other people who maybe are not

951
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 12: white liberal women that are upset, they were told to

952
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 12: be upset by ugly white liberal women, and that who

953
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 12: is who is leading this And it comes from a

954
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 12: place of jealousy. It comes from a place of deep

955
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 12: insecurity that they have to project and then they have

956
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 12: to call it like academics or the study of history.

957
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 12: But really it's self loathing. That's what it is.

958
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: Tommy.

959
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: Everybody can find you on Fox News. You're on all

960
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: the time. But digital side, where can they go to

961
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: see your show?

962
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 12: Oukick dot com Live Monday through Friday, one pm Eastern.

963
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 12: And in a few minutes here I'm going to pop

964
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 12: on the story on Fox News. We're going to talk

965
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 12: about Mom Donnie. So never at the moment, Thank you guys.

966
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 2: For having Tommy.

967
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, thanks Tommy, the commie mom Donnie trying

968
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: to ruin my hometown. Thanks Tommy. You know, Clay, it

969
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: is it is remarkable that at this stage of the game,

970
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: the corrective mechanisms that I thought were rusty, uh, maybe malfunctioning,

971
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: but still somewhat present within the Democrat machinery that they

972
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: don't seem it's not working. They're going crazier in areas

973
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: where it's costing them politically. That's the Usually what they

974
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: do is they're insane, but they hide it and they

975
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: pretend and they prevaricate, and they do this halfway thing.

976
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: Right That was Joe Biden's whole game. I'm good old Joe,

977
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: the true true writing, you know, you can trust me,

978
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: and then he would just let far left wing governance,

979
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, the auto pen everything else.

980
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: Democrats are doing crazy stuff right now.

981
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: Like a normal, well adjusted person sees how they're responding

982
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: to the Sydney sweeneyad and thinks Democrats are neither normal

983
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: nor well adjusted.

984
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 3: Well, and I think this is the challenge. And Tommy

985
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 3: kind of hit on this in general. But if you

986
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: are trying to appeal to men, and this is I understand,

987
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 3: some of you are super in the weeds on policy

988
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: related issues, and we have some of those conversations. We

989
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 3: just had Senator Mike Leon to talk about why there's

990
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: a logjam in the Senate with one hundred and thirty

991
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 3: five different nominees going forward. Most people have no idea

992
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 3: that's going on right. Most people don't understand how Senate

993
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: confirmation works. They don't understand how a judge gets appointed.

994
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: They're just normal. And that's why I think that Good

995
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: Morning America segment is important because you're, you know, mom

996
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: and dad trying to get the kid ready for camp

997
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 3: or kid ready for school or whatever it is. PLoP

998
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: them down in front of it. You're eating cereal, you're

999
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 3: rushing through the morning, and suddenly you see a pretty

1000
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: girl in an ad for a Jens company, and you

1001
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: have an expert on saying it it is coding Nazism.

1002
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 3: I mean, we've got a story up at out kick

1003
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: right now. One of ESPN's employees said, and I want

1004
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 3: to make sure I get this quote right because I

1005
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: couldn't quite believe that this was even real. This is

1006
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 3: somebody who talks about sports for a living. Buck, an

1007
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 3: ESPN writer said, the New Sydney Sweeney American Eagle ad

1008
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: left him mortified. You work in sports and you go

1009
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: on social media and say because a girl, attractive girl

1010
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 3: in jeans left you mortified. The Atlantic says that Americans

1011
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: liking boobs is now trending.

1012
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: Conservative people are going to think I'm kidding. I'm not kidding, Okay.

1013
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: I think if you did a macro level study of

1014
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: male politics in America, you would find it's not this is,

1015
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: you know, a generalization, this is about the average. I

1016
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: think you would find that men of deficient and medically

1017
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: low testosterone overwhelmingly are far left wing in their politics.

1018
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: I think you've seen. I think it is absolutely, I

1019
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 1: think it is real. I think somebody should do the study.

1020
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I think if you're you know, it

1021
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: depends on what your age level is, right, But if

1022
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: you're a guy in your in your like thirties forties,

1023
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: and then you can get into like nanogram per deca

1024
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: leader and all this stuff. You know, if your number

1025
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: is like below three hundred, you're voting Democrat. You're absolutely

1026
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: voting Democrat.

1027
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 3: And look, I mean age can factor in because obviously

1028
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 3: if you're listening to us and you're eighty, naturally you're

1029
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: test different. But I'm saying, if you're a guy thirty

1030
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 3: to fifty you have a medically deficient or close to

1031
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 3: a testosterone level and left wing politics, there's a very

1032
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 3: clear correlation.

1033
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: I think you'd find well.

1034
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: And this is where for what I do.

1035
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 3: I feel like I can sit down and talk to

1036
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: any guy in America and they may not agree with

1037
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 3: me on tax policy, they may not agree with me

1038
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: on judicial nominees. But we can connect on sports. We

1039
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: can connect on having an appreciation for attractive women, sometimes

1040
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: enjoying it, enjoying an adult beverage. Democrats have lost the

1041
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: ability to talk to these people. And I don't know

1042
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: if you saw this Eric Swalwell, you know he put

1043
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 3: up the video. They're trying to do gem ads and

1044
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: show themselves doing things. He challenged Greg Guttfeld to a

1045
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 3: bench press contest and said if Guttfeld beats him that

1046
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 3: he will withdraw from Congress. I just took the bet.

1047
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: I said, I will no longer do Fox News. If

1048
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: Eric Swalwell can out bench press me, I will stop

1049
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 3: doing Fox News, hits an alternative. If I out bench

1050
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 3: press him, he has to drop out of Congress. Do

1051
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: you think he will take my bet? I bet not.

1052
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: But I think this is a cultural issue, and again

1053
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 3: the politics being downstream from cultures one hundred percent.

1054
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: Right. Guys now use being.

1055
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 3: A Democrat as an insult. They basically say, oh, you're

1056
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: you're a Democrat. You voted for Kamala. Younger men, that

1057
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: is one of the top insults you could be. When

1058
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: we were at that game between Georgia and Alabama last

1059
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 3: year at the Alabama frat houses, they had banners hanging

1060
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: outside saying Georgia fans vote for Kamala, Like this is

1061
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 3: how much of an insult for young men even being

1062
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 3: a Democrat is.

1063
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: This reminds me of when I was when I was

1064
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: single in New York City and would come across women

1065
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: who worked in the performing arts. Dancers, not that kind

1066
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: of dancer clay, but you know, they would do things

1067
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: like Broadway and they're Broadway is maybe the most left

1068
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: wing thing in existence. I mean Broadway is They're more

1069
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: left wing than the Marxist professors at like Berkeley.

1070
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just crazy town.

1071
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: But they would sometimes these women that I would come across,

1072
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: maybe on dates, would complain about men in the city.

1073
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: And it's because they were searching for men who basically

1074
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: act like women. And then they wonder why they're so

1075
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: unhappy the the you know, the so called male feminist

1076
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: you know who announces this on the first date that's

1077
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: actually not that this goes against our biology as a

1078
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: human species. It doesn't make any sense.

1079
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: And also women, women just know this is true. If

1080
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: a man claims to be a feminist, run from him

1081
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: in the opposite direction as fast as you can. First

1082
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: of all, they almost never believe it. Secondly, they think

1083
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 3: the only way they can get you is by claiming

1084
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 3: to be male feminists. I'm telling you run in the

1085
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: opposite direction from these people. You cannot trust them. I

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Speaker 3: think a lot of women out there know exactly what

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about. That is, if that is one of

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Speaker 3: your leads. When you go to a date, guy sits

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Speaker 3: down like, oh, I'm a male feminist, just be like

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Speaker 3: check police and leave it with him and get up

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Speaker 3: and leave. He probably doesn't have the money to pay

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Speaker 3: for it. By the way, it's hard for us to

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Speaker 3: imagine living in places where bomb shelters are as common

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Speaker 3: as gas stations or coffee shops. That's what it's like

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Speaker 3: in Israel. I was over there in December. I saw

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Speaker 3: the importance of these shelters and of how much difference

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Speaker 3: just having a bomb shelter can make. And that is

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Speaker 3: what the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews does they

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Speaker 3: build bomb shelters, they build protective devices on cars for

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Speaker 3: first responders. They help to take care of people that

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Speaker 3: otherwise can't take care of themselves in a time of

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Speaker 3: perpetual war. As we talked about it earlier New York Times,

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Speaker 3: spreading lies with a picture of a kid that wasn't

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Speaker 3: actually being malnourished and trying to blame Israel for the

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Speaker 3: situation in Gaza. You need and can help to make

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Speaker 3: a difference in the Holy Land by reaching out and

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Speaker 3: making a gift. You can call eight eight eight four

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Speaker 3: eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ.

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Speaker 3: You can also go online at IFCJ dot org. That's

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Speaker 3: IFCJ dot org.

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