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Speaker 1: road on it. Welcome to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas and I

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Speaker 1: am joined in a room filled with some heroes. Chris

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Speaker 1: Westley to my left, Greg Rosehal to my right. What

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Speaker 1: is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Are you forgetting someone? I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you are a special guest of the pod, you

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Speaker 1: get this separation introduction and the man the embryonic stages

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Speaker 1: of this very podcast. It began. I thought you were

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Speaker 1: going to introduce the six time champion Anna, Anna, all right,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's cool to have six Yes, you know

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Speaker 1: the voice, it's unmistakable. That's Dave Damask of the Dave

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Speaker 1: Damas Check Football Program. He is sitting in the Sessler

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Speaker 1: chair this week or a Monday, Sessler is away with

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Speaker 1: the family. Dave, thanks for rejoining us on the show.

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Speaker 1: Hand zeus the boss west What a pleasure to see you.

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Speaker 1: Rick behind the glass. Happy braded birthday? You are you

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Speaker 1: okay with Rick? I mean Ricky Hollywood, but a little

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Speaker 1: bit Rick Hollywood who celebrated her twenty something birthday. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know when when women, when it becomes a

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Speaker 1: you were aware of the twenty Fine, it's teetering on

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Speaker 1: the edge of over the hill. But it's the reason

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Speaker 1: to think I'm twenty nine is something, and I'm like, no, no,

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Speaker 1: or her late twenties, that's the real question. I think

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Speaker 1: we know. The answer has proven to be the prime

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Speaker 1: year for sports careers. That is the prime said. I

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Speaker 1: only started to figure out how to like have some

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Speaker 1: fun in my twenties when I got around twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: When I wasn't, I wasn't I was less of a wreck.

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Speaker 1: have like four different nicknames. So it's like yeah, but

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Speaker 1: So either way you win, you win. Mind staying a

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Speaker 1: lot true, true, but I guess you guys are all

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Speaker 1: the twenty seven club Amy Winehouse, Kurt Cobain, Uh, Jim Morrison, Um,

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Speaker 1: as one of my pals always points out, you have

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Speaker 1: six years until you're Jesus age. After that, it starts

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Speaker 1: thirty three before he went out, Like now, I'm so

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Speaker 1: far past that. This My life has been an You

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Speaker 1: for your life, which I've been on track with your marriage,

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Speaker 1: even worse. You know what, I've never noticed about West

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Speaker 1: Damas check Football program is also part of the Adam

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Speaker 1: have cooking, but you have good sports over there, and

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Speaker 1: then you have your show. Your buddy Feeney Daves of

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Speaker 1: Sports is on Adam Corolla showed daily and yes, the

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Speaker 1: Dave Damaschik Football Program. Before I even met Show, a

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Speaker 1: So I mean that that podcast has been a Phoenie

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Speaker 1: bit reined in like aust does to Jelnick. Same dynamic

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Speaker 1: I thought, why, I don't even know what that. That's

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Speaker 1: a greg that's great, right, that's everything. My Patriots beat

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Speaker 1: get to today. Uh, speaking of those Patriots, those damn Patriots.

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Speaker 1: At some point, the Patriots dynasty will end. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: We're here tonight with music's most valuable players to present

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Speaker 1: initial thoughts on the signing, um, it's as we were

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Speaker 1: just alliance. People are into that. Um. I My Twitter

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Speaker 1: uh mentions were kind of inundated with people asking my

428
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Speaker 1: takes on various players and teams, and I have to say, I, well,

429
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Speaker 1: I host an NFL podcast. I'm not gonna say I'm

430
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Speaker 1: burned down in football, but I don't need to invest

431
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Speaker 1: myself in a second league a week after the Super Bowl,

432
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Speaker 1: so I stayed away. But there were some big headlines

433
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Speaker 1: that came out of it, and already the league does

434
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Speaker 1: feel wes that just from somebody that's from an outsider

435
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Speaker 1: that's not digging in, but it already seems that more

436
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: positive buzz than say the XFL ever did. I can't

437
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Speaker 1: go as far back to uh, the old what was

438
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Speaker 1: the Trump League US? I can't go that far back,

439
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: but judging off XFL, I feel like the alliance is

440
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: already in better shape after one week. Well, it does

441
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Speaker 1: seem like people are more positive about it. What I

442
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Speaker 1: think history tells us about all these leagues is the

443
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Speaker 1: things to pay attention to. Our our potential rule change

444
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Speaker 1: is not really the players, Like where did the two

445
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Speaker 1: point conversion come from? The WFL, they had an action

446
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Speaker 1: point um check. Might be old enough to remember the

447
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: dick a rod, which was a first down change. It

448
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Speaker 1: was named after a guy named George Dicker. He came

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Speaker 1: up with a chain that was about two and a

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Speaker 1: half yards long, but he the way it worked it

451
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Speaker 1: was just as that called a dicker rod. It was

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Speaker 1: called a dicker rod. Okay, I remember the fumble Rooski,

453
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Speaker 1: but not a Dick or did they have to bleep

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Speaker 1: that out when it was on the telecast. No, they

455
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Speaker 1: showed that dick never really caught on, you know. Replay

456
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: review came from the USFL, Like these are things and

457
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Speaker 1: even coaches. You'll see more coaches um cross boundaries over

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Speaker 1: to the NFL, but you won't see I don't think

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Speaker 1: you'll see as many players who are going to make

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Speaker 1: an impact in the NFL. Christian Hackenberg was a total

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Speaker 1: nightmare in his debut UM, so again it doesn't look

462
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Speaker 1: like it was the right move by Mike mccagnan to

463
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Speaker 1: draft him in the second round. Trent Richardson had two

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Speaker 1: touchdowns but averaged about a yard and half to two

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Speaker 1: yards to carry uh in a win for his team.

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Speaker 1: Anything else, Greg, I mean you were a little plugged in,

467
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Speaker 1: not too plugged in in terms of watching, but even

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl Week I had come to the same conclusion

469
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Speaker 1: that you just said that this is more of a thing.

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Speaker 1: The Alliance is more of a thing, it's more respected,

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Speaker 1: it's catching on more, and it just seems better run

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Speaker 1: with everything behind the scenes and hiring and everything than

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Speaker 1: for instance, the UFL. I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 1: remember that we cover the crap out of that at

475
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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk, like we thought that was going to

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Speaker 1: be a thing or the excell right, was an NBC

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Speaker 1: didn't own p f T. Yeah, but Ed didn't know.

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Speaker 1: In the UFL, Yeah, the UFL, not the XFL, the

479
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Speaker 1: United Football League which did not last long, which I

480
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Speaker 1: feel like the Jaws League. Jaws was an owner with that.

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Speaker 1: Was that the Arena league. He's still in the mix.

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Speaker 1: This was like two. Josh McCown played right. This was

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Speaker 1: like two, but similar that the NFL was looking at

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Speaker 1: it as a possible developmental league, and you mentioned, you know, Dan,

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Speaker 1: how they're showing it on NFL network. That's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I think people want a developmental league, and the the

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Speaker 1: appetite from fans being so into it is telling five

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Speaker 1: days after the season that they're already kind of getting

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Speaker 1: into this goofy new league where Steve Spurr, who doesn't

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Speaker 1: like seeing Steve spurry or go up and down the

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Speaker 1: field on Mike Martz. That's right. The XFL was all

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Speaker 1: about novelty people. People rejoiced Marney, the chase to the

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Speaker 1: center of the field, to see who got the ball

494
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Speaker 1: first in the XFL. But that's all hokum that that

495
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: wears off quickly. The brilliant move. The first brilliant move

496
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Speaker 1: they made was starting it the week immediately after football,

497
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Speaker 1: while it's still at the tip of your brain. I

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Speaker 1: get the hand zous effective. I just ate, this is

499
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: a good time to go to the grocery store, so

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Speaker 1: I don't buy junk. But this is football and that

501
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: is an essential food stuff that that is a part

502
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Speaker 1: of all our diets. One two, the CFL missed its chance.

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Speaker 1: I said for years they need to go with the

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Speaker 1: NFL rules. I don't care what your rules are. What

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Speaker 1: you want is to become the feeder to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Too bad CFL. Now it belongs to the Alliance. The

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Speaker 1: uniforms look good, great relatively yeah, and could be even

508
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Speaker 1: more relevant if they listened to Damna check to the

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Speaker 1: USFL was a great league. Don't lump it in with

510
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Speaker 1: dumb XFL or WUFL or UFL. That was a that

511
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Speaker 1: was a legit league. And I do think West that

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right to be cynical about what we saw

513
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Speaker 1: in terms of talent. Now, but if they could just

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Speaker 1: take it nice and steady. By year two, there will

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Speaker 1: be more talent in there. I think the tough thing

516
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Speaker 1: that Trump wanted to do that ultimately scuttled the USFL

517
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Speaker 1: was to put it up against the NFL. It's a

518
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Speaker 1: little too soon, but what you wanted to be is

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Speaker 1: a feeder league, so therefore you need it to start

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Speaker 1: let's say six eight weeks before the NFL season kicks

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Speaker 1: off ultimately, But I the NFL's for it, and I

522
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people in the NFL also see

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Speaker 1: it like, well, there's more jobs. I mean, there's more

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Speaker 1: personnel jobs, there's more coaching jobs. And I think there's

525
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Speaker 1: so many people in the NFL that want to developmental

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Speaker 1: league kind of badly, and they don't need to even

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Speaker 1: it's their own developmental league essentially, and they don't have

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Speaker 1: to pay a time, and they they're so there. They

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Speaker 1: have showed no fear in it that we'll put it

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Speaker 1: on our own network, will promote it. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: be successful because we know it's not a real threat.

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Speaker 1: It's perfect real quick. The two rules that I think

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Speaker 1: you should keep an eye on the viewers can hear

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Speaker 1: the conversation between the official and the people in the

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Speaker 1: league office during a replay review. That's pretty cool. And secondly,

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00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: there are no onside kicks. But after you score, you

537
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: can choose to take the ball at your own twenty

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Speaker 1: eight yard line and you must get a twelve yard gain.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on there. You kind of can't blitz,

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Speaker 1: which I need to dig in more. But they have

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Speaker 1: a lot of defensive rules where it's there's a maximum

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Speaker 1: you can't have more than five rushers. I think, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't know, I I think it

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Speaker 1: could be fun. And it it rated for what it's

545
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Speaker 1: worth higher than the NBA. Let's watch the next two

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Speaker 1: weeks and see where those ratings are. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I think that's uh, that's a fair point thing. But

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Speaker 1: one one other thing, very quickly is um Over the

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Speaker 1: last few months, I've come to realize that as I

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Speaker 1: used to always say that that in the world of

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Speaker 1: seven billion people, how can't we find thirty two people

552
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: to play quarterbacks effectively in in the NFL, I think

553
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: we now are just about saturated with starters in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I mean that in a good way.

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Speaker 1: They're only like five teams that you rightly can point

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Speaker 1: out and say, boy, they better fix that QB thing.

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Speaker 1: And I think we're about to have an overflow with

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Speaker 1: the college kids coming in, this will be a good

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00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: place to send that. I mean, go get your scared

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00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: starting Hackenberg and BERKOVICI but you know, West is all guy.

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Speaker 1: He took a tough blindside hit Mart's really the way

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Speaker 1: Hackenberg beat out Mettenburger in camp, it looks like Mettenberger

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Speaker 1: is probably gonna get a week. I am not joking

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Speaker 1: when I say that. All right, let's move on to

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Speaker 1: headlock Watch. That's get ready to oh my New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: They they are going all in on what I call

567
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: the George Costanza opposite theory, do everything the opposite of

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Speaker 1: what they think they should do, which is building a

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Speaker 1: staff of people who hate each other and seeing what happens. So, yes, West,

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Speaker 1: you you called it headlock Watch last week, and here

571
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: we are the Jets now. In addition to hiring Greg

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Speaker 1: Williams and teaming him with Adam Gate, which is volcanic

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Speaker 1: that's a good way to um uh, they also hire

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Speaker 1: uh Greg williams son Blake, who rubbed some people the

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Speaker 1: wrong way and has never had a coaching job at

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Speaker 1: this level when his dad wasn't involved. UH. They had

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Speaker 1: now added to the staff Joe Vitt. Who's Joe Vitt?

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Speaker 1: You remember Joe Vitt? Jove it was a football lifer.

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Speaker 1: He was on that Saints UH team that was implicated

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Speaker 1: in the two thousand twelve bounty gates scandal and in

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Speaker 1: the ensuing hearings conducted by Tags poly tags. You remember

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Speaker 1: that they had Polytags running the hearings. What I find

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00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: that was Vit accused Greg Williams of lying in his

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00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: testimony that also said, UH players didn't take Williams, who

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00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: is now the defensive coordinator of the Jets and his colleague,

586
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: UH players didn't take him seriously because of his quote

587
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: false bravado and quote stick. UH Williams was then as

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00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: I I assumed, part of its testimony implicating UH Williams

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00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: led to him being suspended definitely, which ended up being

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Speaker 1: an eleven month van Band and Vitt, who was suspended

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00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: six games after bound to get anyway, they're all together

592
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: now in the same Florin Park facility that's going on

593
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: in Rum for the first time since I've known you.

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Speaker 1: For the first time in this podcast, like I care

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00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: about the Jets, like I want more Jets news, not

596
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: less Jets news. You're gonna get it, Joe, Antonio Brown

597
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: and Levi Abow. They're really going to complete this delicious Sunday.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't I don't buy in. Did

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Speaker 1: you even mention My favorite twist of all of this

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00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: is Joe Vitt is Adam Gaze's father in law. Why not? Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that really means for everything, but

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00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: it's just it. It makes for like another fun episode

603
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: in this drama when like, you know, the daughter comes home,

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Speaker 1: she's not happy, he's not happy with the dad, and like,

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Speaker 1: can I fire her dad? It's all they now? Are

606
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: they now the number one choice for hard knocks amongst

607
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: this room? Um they mouth again, I can't have Greg Williams.

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00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: He says bad words. It's so hilarious, Jovit's awesome. Though

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Speaker 1: you mentioned how he came back, he was he was

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Speaker 1: suspended six. That reminded me, do you remember he was

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00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: the co coach that year with Aaron Cromer that they

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00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: had They didn't have a head coach, they had two

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Speaker 1: head coaches. Was that with the your job signed in

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00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: the facility with the sun giant face. It was like,

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00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: was like, Joe, put my poster as large as you

616
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Speaker 1: can watching. I said, at least the Jets can look

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00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: at it this way. I used to have a theory,

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Speaker 1: jovit should be the permanent interim head coach because he

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Speaker 1: did a very entertaining job with the Rams in the

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Speaker 1: mid two thousand's and then he did a credible, fun

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Speaker 1: press conferences job with the Saints, and he should just

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Speaker 1: be like an interim coach for higher So if Adam

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Speaker 1: Gates does happen to lose his job early along the way,

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Speaker 1: at least you got him in the halfway right. What

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00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: you what you're missing is what's making these Jets are

626
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: so brilliant is that no team has better interim coaches

627
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: ready to replay at him gaze Because Greg Williams took

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00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: the fricking Browns and made him on pace to be

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Speaker 1: a ten win team in the second half of last year.

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Speaker 1: They're set up. And who else do we add to

631
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: the mix? Oh we got Jimbob Couter, got a coonter

632
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: and Cooters back in the house. Love that Coter. What

633
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: a Patriots is over? Remember when he was going to

634
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Speaker 1: be a head coach and now he's the Jets running

635
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: backs coach. I wonder if um, yeah, that's a fause.

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Speaker 1: It happens a lot in the NFL. You gotta build

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00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: yourself back up. Look at your boy, Doug Moron. Yeah,

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00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: he was coaching up offensive line. I mean he Cooters

639
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Speaker 1: come back from the pokemono Cooters come back before from

640
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Speaker 1: some setbacks. And just rounding out some coaching news. Jim

641
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Speaker 1: Caldwell he lands with the Dolphins, uh, coaching quarterbacks. Uh.

642
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: And Bob Sutton joins uh the Atlanta Falcons staff. He

643
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Speaker 1: of course most recently was the d C of the Chiefs,

644
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: so he didn't make it there, but he gets a

645
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Speaker 1: chance with Atlanta. Did a great job in the second

646
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Speaker 1: half there. That's Tom Brady. Brian Flores called was one

647
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Speaker 1: of the few non ex patriots. He really was successful

648
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Speaker 1: in taking a lot of the assistance. And another one

649
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Speaker 1: or two left there. They are going to have a

650
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Speaker 1: pretty brand new coaching staff. Who is the number one

651
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Speaker 1: like the Belichick coaching tree. Bill O'Brien Is Bill O'Brien

652
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Speaker 1: the only guy that's found any success from the coach

653
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Speaker 1: from well Saban. You know, I don't count Nick Stage

654
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Speaker 1: coming from the Belichick coaching tree. I mean you could say,

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Speaker 1: I would say Saban would would say no coach influenced

656
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Speaker 1: him more certainly not an NFL. You could have Nick

657
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Speaker 1: Saban theodcast He's had an amazing coaching tree. Greg, No,

658
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Speaker 1: he has a terrible one. But you said it was

659
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Speaker 1: his coaching tree. I would considered that. I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: not many yeah, not many zero. In fact, I would.

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Speaker 1: I I mean, how excited can you be if you're

662
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Speaker 1: a Dolphins guy right now? What I mean, what evidence

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Speaker 1: is there is that, oh he learned that the neo

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Speaker 1: Belichick We're good. I mean, there's no evidence that that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be true. He seems like a unique Oh he does.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, Matt Patricia doesn't. Didn't seem unique. I also

667
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: think every man can send on his own. You never know.

668
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: I'm just saying Florence is impressive. I agree. I also

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Speaker 1: think if you want to bring in college Nick Saban,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Weis said, uh, Notre Dame. It kind of just

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Speaker 1: oh yeah. There's been a lot of you know, he's

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Speaker 1: got Kirk ference at Iowa, Pat Hill, Fresnes State. He's

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Speaker 1: still in my heart, Pat Hill. That's what's happening in

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Speaker 1: the news. All right, let's assume the Patriots die. It's over.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, who played not a very good game. Let's

676
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Speaker 1: facing a nice drive there in the fourth quarter, but

677
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: showed his age at times. Lessie isn't Oh West. And

678
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Speaker 1: I had it out on Twitter on Twitter a little

679
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Speaker 1: bit when I said that was a crummy Brady game

680
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Speaker 1: that they survived. He was nails in overtime in Arrowhead,

681
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: but he was not good over the course of that

682
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: regular of the regulation type. The story would have been

683
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Speaker 1: if D four doesn't put his hand off sides, the

684
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: story is one touchdown, three picks father time remains undefeated.

685
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: That would have been the story, whether you like it

686
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: or not. That's what it wouldn't have been, exactly because

687
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: everyone would remember a the last pick came off a

688
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: drop and be he did a lot of good things

689
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: in that game. But to your point, when I went

690
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: back and rewatched it, you're right, the first three quarters

691
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: were up and down, but he made he made a

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00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: lot of plays early in the game. And you can't

693
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Speaker 1: just say, well, if it wasn't for the fourth quarter, well,

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Speaker 1: if it wasn't for touchdown drives that he drove when

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Speaker 1: he needed. It was a perfect end to the Patriots era.

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Speaker 1: If it would have been a drop by Gronk into

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00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: an interception, it was like, well that's the end, and

698
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: it was. But this is the first segment I can

699
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Speaker 1: like reveal my new thing, which is I don't I

700
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: don't even want them to win next year. That's enough.

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Speaker 1: You've been saying this since then. Now it started. Now

702
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: it's really true. One. But I've told you before, I'm

703
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: gonna tell it to again. If you're a Tom Brady guy,

704
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Speaker 1: what you want is after he retires, you want him

705
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: to go six and ten because if if not, then

706
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: that really knocks the luster off of Wait a second,

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Speaker 1: I wait, how dare you? But by the way, you

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Speaker 1: know what you need to go back? You've ever watched

709
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: a game with Brandshaw? You can't. Can you get Phoene

710
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: on the phone and well exactly, no Bradshaw talk today.

711
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't want the branch. Don't worry about if you

712
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: science base guys though, don't believe in QB wins. But

713
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: why is Brady the greatest of all time if not

714
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: for for the big time wins? Hey, there's guys, can

715
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks job is to win? Oh? So you are

716
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: on your side. I didn't quarterbacks job is to win,

717
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: and Brady will say the same damn thing. I'm with

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00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: you a hundred percent. Who is the NFL's next dynasty?

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Speaker 1: Okay we'll start here. We're also gonna get into some

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Speaker 1: teams that are going to the opposite direction and not

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Speaker 1: heading toward any dynasty at all. But um, Dave, why

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00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: don't you get us go n't just throw out a

723
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: team that could replace the Patriots or succeed them Drew

724
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: locks Patriots once I once Brady hangs them up with belt.

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00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: Now I will go with here. I let me just

726
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: explain this in in eleven seconds. I believe that the rookie,

727
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: the guys who the teams that have the QB a

728
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: good QB on his rookie deal, are playing with house money.

729
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: They can spend on luxury items, much like Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: rams have done what the chiefs are in a position

731
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: to do around mahomes now. But that isn't an enduring operation.

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00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: You can't do that. Your QB must be so good

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Speaker 1: that once he's making thirty million dollars, you can still

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00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: have a good roster from top to bottom. Air go

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00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: that describes the Indianapolis Colts. They have their franchise qb

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00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: um locked into a big dollar figure and yet you

737
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: see them only rising up. So that will be my

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Speaker 1: my first team to throw out that number one on

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00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: my list. I'm sure you guys are not surprised, but

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Speaker 1: I sort of had a checklist. Ownership, team building, coaching staff, quarterback,

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Speaker 1: young talent, cap space, draft picks, culture, veteran leadership, recruiting ability,

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Speaker 1: howork he put in the work from from most important lea.

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00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: Ownership is always the most important. And I know you

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00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: guys don't like Jim Rcy, but they've had a lot

745
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: of success. I love Jim Mercy and all owners. Yeah,

746
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: he's had a lot of successes, and I think they

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00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: have every ingredient on that list, including a impressive two

748
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: thousand and eight teen draft class to build around. They've

749
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Speaker 1: got the most cap space of anybody that can go

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00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: out and get people. They don't really have any weaknesses.

751
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: They've got an impressive coaching staff. Now these are two

752
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: different conversations, though, what is a team that's well positioned

753
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: to knock off the Patriots next year and what's a

754
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: team position to build a dynasty. There's only been five

755
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: or six of these teams. Ever, so this is a

756
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: true dynasty. You're not counting like the Seahawks the next deck.

757
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: Let's say that. To me, the answer is like none.

758
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: The history would tell us that it's it's it's not

759
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and that what you can hope for is

760
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: to be like a Seahawks type of team, or a

761
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: Broncos type of team, or even the Colts with Peyton

762
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: Manning where you have a long stretch of success. But

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Speaker 1: my answer would be none. If I had, if that

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Speaker 1: was an option, is that enough? All? That's I mean

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00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: for a dynasty dynasty? If I had to choose what

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00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: I have one, I think and check you're great with

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00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: the history of the league. I would say dynastyse three

768
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: titles in five years. The Steelers a cop shot, Yeah,

769
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: they did four s. The Cowboys did it. The Patriots

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00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: did it twice. They've downed at it twice, yet they

771
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: did four and three and five. People put way too

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00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: much emphasis on winning a Super Bowl and not enough

773
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: I'm getting to a super Bowl right because well you

774
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: can look at that two ways. Because to me, the

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00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: Patriots has been throughout the whole time, and especially the

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00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: the odds to me as a dynasty by the Pagriot

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00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: because they've they've been in the championship game eight straight times.

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00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: To be, it starts in like ten or eleven when

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Speaker 1: they draft Gronk, even though they didn't win a Super

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00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: Bowl for a while. So do you do we think

781
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: with because Luck makes a ton of money, do you

782
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: think they have they're able to build a roster that

783
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Speaker 1: could put together five, six, seven, eight years with Luck

784
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Speaker 1: at the at the Star at the Helm. Yes, I do,

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00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: and and I think it starts with their GM, who's

786
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: shown to be a very good gum and it's two

787
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: years in the job. Uh, they got extra still have

788
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: another extra draft pick from the catch trade. They've got

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Speaker 1: more cap space than anyone. They've got um, a guy

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00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: who was an offensive Rookie the Year candidate, a guy

791
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: who was the defensive rookie of the Year. And I

792
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: think you know the coaching staff. I think the Colts

793
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: have just about everything and can't argue they need to

794
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: add talent, but they have the avenues to do it easily.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up this quarterback thing. I think

796
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: this has been said so much that now it's overrated.

797
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: This whole point of like, it's the most valuable thing.

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00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: They have a rookie guy on a rookie contract. The

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Speaker 1: salary cap went up another fourteen million dollars year. It's

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Speaker 1: up to one night one and your quarterbacks don't take

801
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: that big of a percentage. And by the way, if

802
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: salary cap was so hard and so valuable, how come

803
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: half the league didn't even spend close to the salary

804
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: cap last year. These quarterbacks, they don't hurt you that bad.

805
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: If you can't figure out how to build a team

806
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: around your thirty million dollar quarterback with another hundred and sixty,

807
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: it's like that that's on you. They free agency. Now

808
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: you're you're finding a hard time finding good enough players

809
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: to spend all the money on. Throw another team out there.

810
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the Chiefs to me are the obvious and

811
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Speaker 1: the and the right answer, not just because Mahomes is

812
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: on his rookie contract, but because he's Patrick freaking Mahomes,

813
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: and he's got some great people around him right now.

814
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: And you've got a great coach. I believe a great

815
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Speaker 1: coach in Andy Reid, and a stable organization and and ownership.

816
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: But I almost don't need all the rest I just

817
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: need mahomes and a coach and you need a defense,

818
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: which is what did you? Yeah, they haven't. They haven't

819
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: had it yet, but they've they've gotten there, knocking on

820
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: the they have the hardest parts down. They they that

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Speaker 1: they have the coach, and they have the quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: they have ownership, which is steady. Who else what else

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Speaker 1: on the checklist? Go down? Checklist for me? Again, Let's

824
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: go with the owner. That's good ownership. Let's give him

825
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: a plus for sure team building, which he can say

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Speaker 1: GM or whatever. The coaching staff, quarterback, young talent. Yeah,

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00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: that on one side of the ball. But but you

828
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: also could say they know exactly where they have to

829
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: put all their efforts into buildings, which is much easier

830
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: said than done. But um, cap space, where are they

831
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Speaker 1: of that? That's a good question. I think they're pretty

832
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Speaker 1: close to the bottom. Last year they were, they were

833
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: in trouble with it. Right now they have Rosie's right.

834
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Speaker 1: The cap is gonnap up like another million, so it

835
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Speaker 1: should throw that off. Two things though, First of all,

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Speaker 1: done by that checklist. Oh I'm sorry, traff picks would

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Speaker 1: be the last, like really important one to me. West

838
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: is correct by by the way. As a side note,

839
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Speaker 1: John always greatness is not old to the fact that

840
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: two rings got tacked onto the back end of his

841
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: career thanks to Terrell Davis. His true greatness his revealed

842
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: and getting those three bum those three bum Broncos teams

843
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: too super Bowls that they had no business. Sammy Winder

844
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Speaker 1: was the feature back Van's Johnson was the best wide receiver.

845
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Speaker 1: John Elway carried those teams. That's his greatness. The team

846
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Speaker 1: that figured out the cap thing first, though, is with

847
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Speaker 1: UH that what we have to take advantage of while

848
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: we have a good QB on his rookie deal, the

849
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, And as we expand the definition of dynasty

850
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: in the twenty first century, which Brady and Belichick have

851
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: to do because they're the only two consistent UH people

852
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: along with Bob Kraft and the Patriots dynasty, how about

853
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: those Seattle Seahawks. They check many of those items that

854
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: West just to come off come back around. Yeah, you

855
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: still have Russell Wilson, you still have Bobby Wags. They

856
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: have a couple of pieces, just like the New England Patriots. Well,

857
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: Steve still, Pete Carroll still the QB. By that logic,

858
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: if they win a Super Bowl, are wouldn't we sort

859
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: of like they're kind of a dynasty. They won that one,

860
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: they almost won that second one, and then they won

861
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: that third. We've kind of been such a different team though.

862
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: I know there's the guys that Russell Wilson and the

863
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: coach is the same. The gym playoffs every year if

864
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: they but if they went on a run, let's say

865
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: next year, and won the Super Bowl, would you view

866
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: that as the same team as the third? Is that

867
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: different thing what the Patriots have done? Well, that's fair.

868
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: My biggest question with the Seahawks. It starts at the top.

869
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: They're gonna have new ownership. Um, we don't yet know

870
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: what that's gonna be. And for three or four year now,

871
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: years now, we've been hearing that Pete Carroll is just

872
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: about out the door. Well he just resigned, you know,

873
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: to a new I believe you were the one telling

874
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: me last summer Carol was out the tour. I know,

875
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: Well it didn't happen. Yeah, I've I was called two

876
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: years ago this is his last year. Because he loved

877
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: taking his boat from his house to the facilities like

878
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: that was a sign he was no longer serious about football.

879
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: Jammy Graham was flying a plane to the exactly start

880
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: going back to the cheese real quick. And it didn't

881
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: happen with the Patriots. But in a lot of different sports, um,

882
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: and by the way, they would have won that Super Bowl.

883
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: They would have beat the Rams. Sorry Chiefs fans to

884
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: even I think they know that they if they had

885
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: won that coin us and moved down the field and

886
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense, we'll be talking about the Super Bowl champions.

887
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: But to that point, a lot of teams we could

888
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: Jordan's Bulls and but you could like the Yankees dynasty

889
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: in the nineties. There's usually a heartbreaking, devastating loss when

890
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: the team is just there and if something goes their way,

891
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: they would have won it that year too, but they don't.

892
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I see that Chief's Patriots game.

893
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: For this Chief's team, I would be shocked if they

894
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: are not a team that is flying next year. And

895
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: they're my Super Bowl favorite. Right now. Let me throw

896
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: out I'd agree with three young teams and see which

897
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: one you guys like best. I'm gonna write one down

898
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: right here. The Chicago Bears meet a lot of the

899
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: qualifications on the I don't love Trabinsky, but that's a

900
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: I've got. I've got like a caveat for each of

901
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: these teams, and Trabinsky is you have to be a

902
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: Trabisky believer in order to think it's the Rams or

903
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: the Bears. How about the Rams right now? Because you

904
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: don't trust the quarterback Because I don't know after a

905
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: week or plus away from that Super Bowl exactly what

906
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: went down with Hot Gurley. I was pot but before that,

907
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on with ncveigh and Gurley.

908
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: I was sure that they were masking, that they were

909
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: gaming up the the injury report and Gurly was hurt.

910
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: But now the further way I get from it, it

911
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: seems like there was some issue there. Yet we prefer

912
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: the fat guy who wasn't on a roster two weeks

913
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: ago to the to the biggest home run hitter in

914
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: pro football? What what's going Wait? What's going on with Gurley?

915
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: Plus they spent on luxury items, like I said around

916
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: Jared Goffe's rookie deal to get Sue and to leave

917
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth, They're not going to

918
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: have that same luxury going. And they do have tons

919
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: of cap space and they have as many good players

920
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: locked in long term as anyone, which is why I

921
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: think they're a good choice. The Rams and the Eagles

922
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: would probably be the next two for me because their

923
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: front offices. Brown's is my third one, and my caveat

924
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: for those for them is ownership in an untested head coach.

925
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: But they have just about everything else. I could have

926
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: a winning season first two before we start talking Dynasday.

927
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: If we're talking dynasty, had the curve here and not

928
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: wait until everyone else knows. With all the teams ran off,

929
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: everybody would have to get None of those teams that

930
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: we have talked about has even one in the twenty

931
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: first century? Has one Super Bowl? Seattle? Uh uh? The

932
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: exception to that? How about the Philadelphia Eagles? Yes, but

933
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: if Carson Wentz, that is eleven is the most Antonio Brown,

934
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: Levyan Belt, whatever else. The most fascinating offseason storyline is

935
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: what happens with the frame of mind of number eleven

936
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: there as Nick Foles moves on and the city says,

937
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: but you let our hero go. Well, I think that's

938
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: right because I think if I was making a checklist,

939
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: that the three biggest things are quarterback One, you know,

940
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: and then maybe two is a front office nimble and

941
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: flexible enough to adapt to whatever the changes in the

942
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: league are with salary caps, faith with position trends, and

943
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: then making that work with your coach, which is number three.

944
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: And I think the Eagles and the Rams are really strong,

945
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: uh in the front office and working with their coach

946
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: and everything, and that's why they think. I love the

947
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: Eagles as a pick. I was going to throw them

948
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: out there, and Wentz is the reason why for me,

949
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: because I mean, you could not have more motivation as

950
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: a quarterback coming off what was really a frustrating lost

951
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: year and folds and people doubting you. And remember how

952
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: good he was before he got hurt. I could see

953
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: him being coming out like a house on fire. And

954
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him because I think it was a

955
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: really tough situation he's been in since he got hurt.

956
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: I think that Wentz is a guy to watch as

957
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: an m VP candidate again next year. So I guess

958
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm the only one who had the Eagles as a

959
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: candidate for the dirt Knap section of let's let's transition

960
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: to that go ahead with anyway, I like you thrown

961
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: in Baker because that's the one quarterback I believe in

962
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: the most. So yeah, as a young guy, and so

963
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: he has a chance. I guess the only reason I

964
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: throwed out there is as a fan of a team

965
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: that is a perennial dirt knap team like the Browns are.

966
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: I know everything can change an instant, but it's gonna

967
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: be really hard for the Browns to take the next step,

968
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: uh and become a title happened to the pain rankings team,

969
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: And I'm my fear is that the other shoe is

970
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: gonna drop. So the idea of them going to a

971
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: dynasty level, I'm just gonna pump the brakes on everything

972
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, and just see how you're how does

973
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: how does Baker Mayfield hand to handle wealth, fame and success?

974
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: You know? How does how do we really are? We

975
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: all were all in about as you said, you, I mean,

976
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: do we trust the Haslums? I know there's too much

977
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: to me right now to bring them up in this conversation,

978
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: as much as it would be fun if they hit

979
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: the ground running in twenty nineteen. Alright, So so you

980
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: think that Eagles, No, they weren't my choice, but there

981
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: are only I only have three teams that are even

982
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: candidates for dirt nap if you if you say they've

983
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: been really successful and there's a good chance they will

984
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: be unsuccessful. In two thousand, Steelers one of them, right,

985
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: Steelers and they Steelers, Patriots and Eagles were the three

986
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: I came up with. But the Eagles, Look, how many

987
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: people in that roster are not only over thirty, but

988
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: in their mid thirties or certainly could be towing the cliff.

989
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about Jason Peters, Darren Sprouls, Malcolm Jenkins,

990
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: Chris Long, Michael Bennett, Travis Kelsey, Hello Ti, not a

991
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: all over thirty years old. I could just see this

992
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: roster getting old really quickly. And they that's not to

993
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: say they don't have young guys who can come up

994
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: and take on bigger rules, but I could see, like,

995
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: and they've got a little more cap issues than almost

996
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 1: any other team. And I do like they are. They're smart,

997
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: Like you said, they have a very smart leadership. They

998
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: they are well coached, they've got a good franchise quarterback,

999
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: so they're in great shape. But you could also see

1000
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: them stumbling right they got to me, they have WENTZ

1001
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: and they have Fletcher Cox, and you're right, the line

1002
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: is a big concern and they have Lane Johnson. It's like,

1003
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: how many people really stick around for more than five

1004
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: on a team. There's three that I like. It's like,

1005
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, I I do think that, Yes, I think

1006
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: the Jason Peters factor is a massive one. That that

1007
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: that you can't sleep on. That I don't evaluate offensive lineman,

1008
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: but I've spoken with enough who will convince you he's

1009
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: the best left tackle of the generation. UM, Fletcher Cox

1010
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: is the guy everybody sleeps on. Aaron Donald is the

1011
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: best interior defensive lineman in Pro football, but Fletcher Cox,

1012
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: he's a fairly close one a to that. UM. I

1013
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: like the e I I don't see the Eagles, and

1014
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: if I'm looking in the short term, obviously free agency

1015
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: and the draft can change these things. Who's you know,

1016
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: who's the divisional competition? The Rams look out for, the

1017
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: Seahawks look out for the Niners. I I think that

1018
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: they're going to overwhelm the Rams in twenty and are

1019
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: gonna overwhelm where Yeah, we're just I don't mean I

1020
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: mean they, I mean they're not gonna run to thirteen

1021
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: and three, is what I mean. I'm relatively speaking, I

1022
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna go seven and nine next year.

1023
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that they're that those teams are gonna

1024
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: catch up a little. By the way, them looking at

1025
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: over the cap in their cap space, the Eagles far

1026
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: and away or in the worst cap position right now.

1027
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: According to them, there's sixteen million in the red so

1028
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,959
Speaker 1: they got to do some work just to get under

1029
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: the cap. That for right now, Well, there you go.

1030
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: That will help obviously a lot. And then the Chiefs

1031
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: that we brought up earlier, they're kind of right in

1032
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: the middle the pack actually, so they're not in too

1033
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: bad shape. Here's a regression team for you at the

1034
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: Cowboys if they if they don't keep Tank Lawrence, who

1035
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: was quietly on any top five or six defensive players

1036
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: in the NFL, UH this past season. You don't think

1037
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: he's going anywhere. No, no team lets a talent like

1038
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: that get away much less the Cowboys. Check. Let's let's

1039
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: just get to it. Uh. We have something here called

1040
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: the pie scale. All right? One? Uh is your pants

1041
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: your underpants, Uh, your private saw completely dry. There's no worry,

1042
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: You're not concerned about anything. No. Ten, the p it's everywhere.

1043
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: You gotta get a diaper on, you gotta change your clothes.

1044
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: You put the adult taper on because you're peeing so much,

1045
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: because you're worried. Where are you on the PA scale

1046
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: about the future and president of the Pittsburgh Steelers one

1047
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: to ten. I can tell you honestly that my only concern.

1048
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: My P level scale about a four. Okay. The only

1049
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: thing I don't love is Mike tom Mike Tomlin for

1050
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: all the platitude and and you know it's all based

1051
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: around testosterone. Yes, he owns that defense. That is the

1052
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: thing that I think is under reported nationally and even

1053
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: perhaps on the banks of the Three Rivers. People want

1054
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: to hang it on poor Keith Butler. Oh his defense,

1055
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: they gotta fire that guy. It's Mike Tomlin's defense. Who

1056
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: do you think is who you think's calling the show? There? Um,

1057
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: that's my concern. Although talk about a nice, sneaky little

1058
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: higher Tarall Austin, talk about the guy who was a

1059
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: hey he was, he was a talking about guy who

1060
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: was supposed to be an NFL head coach two years ago.

1061
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: The Bengals get him in the middle of the season.

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00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just telling you that now they've at

1063
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: least brought someone else in there to help out the defense. Now,

1064
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: you're right, he didn't like the offensive line. He did

1065
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: a great chat taking one of the most consistent defenses

1066
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: in the league and making him the worst stop. Let

1067
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: me just say this, the least sexy conversation to have

1068
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: that is tune out to me and the most football

1069
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: fans is you know how? You know how teams win

1070
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: or go deep in the play this year after year,

1071
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: the one consistent factor is dominance on both sides of

1072
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and the Steelers have that. They're

1073
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: They're they even without Mike Munchak. They have a great

1074
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: offensive line and Cam Hayward stefante for Javon Hargrave, Grave

1075
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: and tuit Or Nice and Young are real Nice and

1076
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: Young and Cam Hayward was dominant last year. Listen, I

1077
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: do I think they're gonna win the Super Bowl? No,

1078
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: but I think they're I think they're fine. It would

1079
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: be a great move. They're certainly competitive with still one

1080
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: of the great quarterbacks of the twenty one century. If

1081
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger for a little while longer, if you if

1082
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: you want to go next step and win that trench

1083
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: warfare and up the warfare in your conference. Why don't

1084
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: you go poach Darte Dante Scarneckia up from New England,

1085
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: bring him on as your line coach, and now you're

1086
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: really cooking because that guy is the secret magic sauce.

1087
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: That's the Patriots way. In fact, you know the kind

1088
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: of thing that the Patriots do is they take on

1089
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: guys like Antonio Brown. That's the kind of thing that

1090
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing that people don't talk about with

1091
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots, from Josh Gordon to Michael Floyd to sell

1092
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: On himself, Corey Dylan, they have no problem bringing in

1093
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: guys and we'll make him are right, and sometimes it

1094
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: works and sometimes it doesn't. Hey yeah, yeah, stick me

1095
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: with like one of the best receivers of all time

1096
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: who's known for his maniacal work ethic bringing on do

1097
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: you have I'm not I'm really not overly concerned. I

1098
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: don't think the Ravens. The Ravens are an eight and

1099
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: eight team. But the idea that obviously Roethlisberger is getting

1100
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: older and now you're gonna enter a season without Bell

1101
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: or potentially Antonio Brown. Go to the team that never

1102
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: loses team without Bround or Bell. I don't think the

1103
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: Steelers are winning the Super Bowl this year. Necessary not

1104
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: ready for a dirt nap either, So I want to

1105
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: see what Kevin Colbert can pull off in free agency

1106
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: in the drafting obviously. That's I mean, to their credit,

1107
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: they have been even in their down years, they don't

1108
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: stay down for long, and they've been a great organization.

1109
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: They have not been taken any dirt naps. For rob

1110
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: has never had a losing season. He's been in the

1111
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: league for fifteen years. How bad are they does anybody

1112
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: expect them to turn? They weren't really outclassed by anyone,

1113
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: like even in the games they lost, they made leads,

1114
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: they blew leads, and their roster is pretty strong even

1115
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: without Antonio Browning. I told Cam Jordan that at Super Sunday,

1116
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to hear any more crying

1117
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: from Saints people about how you got jipped by the

1118
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: by the refs. The refs stole a Steelers victory that

1119
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: would have put them into the postseason. It made them

1120
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: the most dangerous team on the last week sixteen. You

1121
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: by far did the most um prep and work ahead

1122
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: of this. You had an whole chart breaking down seven

1123
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: different factors. Um So, I want to give you the

1124
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: last word of one team in either direction that you

1125
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: maybe hasn't come up yet. Take us Homeless, Okay, I

1126
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: feel like we should have a second podcast just going

1127
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: through all the work. I didn't even take any dirt nap.

1128
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: I didn't even choose the dirt nap team. You're lucky Jaguars.

1129
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: I think the Saints are an interesting one because what

1130
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: we saw happened throughout this seat throughout the two eighteen

1131
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: season was their offense started out gangbusters to use a

1132
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: check is him, and then halfway through the season you

1133
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: started to realize the defense has so much young talent

1134
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: on it and the defense outplayed the offense. But the

1135
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: offense still has Alvin Kamar and Michael Tomas, two of

1136
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: the best players at the positions, still has even though

1137
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: the offensive line sort of fell off at the end

1138
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: of the year, a pretty solid offensive line. The question

1139
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: is your quarterback couldn't throw deep for the final month

1140
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: and a half of the season. How do you feel

1141
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: about the Saints as a dynasty with a fourty year

1142
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: old quarterback turned into an eight and a half, didn't

1143
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: nine down the stretch there he did not look People

1144
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: don't like to say it. He went on the rise

1145
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: in that same division. Why not the Buccaneers maybe maybe

1146
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: Famous James season. For all that, you don't know what's

1147
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: gonna be. You don't know if you're gonna go. I'm

1148
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: just not just rising up a little bit. I'm not

1149
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: ready to turn the page yet. I want to just so.

1150
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: I think their roster smart, talented, and people believe, yet

1151
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: their quarterback is not fixable like most people believe. Oh

1152
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: we don't know about well, I don't know about that.

1153
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: We will say it, just like so many people are

1154
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: invested in a mediocre quarterback who turns the ball over

1155
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: so much and he's not even a good character guy.

1156
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: So I just I refused to get Jai wins We's

1157
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: got five months to have this conversation. It's like, what

1158
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: is Jamis Winston have every over everyone that they're so

1159
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: invested in him being a good quarterback. He's been a

1160
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: bad person in a bad quarterback. So I don't care.

1161
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: And there and that wraps up our dynasty talk. Um

1162
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: Dave from Mariota, Mariota has not accosted anyone to say

1163
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: over a vehicle or yelled stuff on a cafeteria table

1164
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: at Florida State, been accused of heinous crimes, and his

1165
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: teammates say that he's never even spoken to them. Very quiet,

1166
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: he's very shy. That's just what you want your qub.

1167
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: Very early in the past, the draft process in there

1168
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: was a line drawn in the sand. Greg got on

1169
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: the side of the Tampa Bay quarterback, West Scott on

1170
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: the side of the National quarterback. And ever since everyone's

1171
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: been very awkward. Ye every time right now, when everyone's lost,

1172
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: including the listeners, it's been full of sound and fury.

1173
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed it. No one has won. Should have wasted

1174
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: airtime for a long time. Dave Damna Shack, you've come

1175
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: in here and you've done it again. Dave's of thunder.

1176
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: Also part of the Adam Crowle universe, of course, with

1177
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: good sports and the Dave Damn Check football program two

1178
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: times a week even in the off season. That's right,

1179
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: that's right. You still have a handsome Hanks still involved, right,

1180
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: he is still a part of the pro It seems

1181
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: like he kind of presents himself as a little bit

1182
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: above it now. He's like, I make it on when

1183
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: I can, But always a big hitter. Now he's making

1184
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: all those international games, he's taken the beautiful game abroad.

1185
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, he's he's a big hitter. He's a

1186
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: there's always a constant churn above the line, if you

1187
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: want to call it that on the third floor. You

1188
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: guys making hay over in the UK must be aware

1189
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: of it. I've I've heard tell many times over at

1190
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: this point that he walks down the street legitimately, that

1191
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: he walks down the streets of London and people handsome

1192
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: hay I maybe had an NFL event. I feel like,

1193
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: but you're right, You're right. I think he is revered.

1194
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: He came to he came to a dinner that I

1195
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: had with with some guys who work in the UK,

1196
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: Nat Coombs, who has a great podcast there and it's

1197
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: on you know, BBC and everything. And when his group

1198
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: found out that Henry was going to join us, I

1199
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: was already there. Oh it was like, just did Henry

1200
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: want that? I feel like Henry, I'm just saying. There

1201
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: was excitement. It was like it was like, oh, the

1202
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: hot girl's gonna show up. Didn't know I've never met him.

1203
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: Really well, Henry is a hot girl all the way.

1204
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: Well except he's not a girl. Well that's true, all right. Anyway, Jack,

1205
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, fellas muzzle tell again in there,

1206
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: Greg and you were appreciate which as a man, this

1207
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: is a very check shirt. It's right off the check line.

1208
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: But I've never seen he as a wrangler man. Oh

1209
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: now listen, Wrangler and the Dave Damna check football program

1210
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: had a beautiful, uh hot affair for for a while there. Yeah,

1211
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: this is this is something like that. That was some

1212
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: of the the bounty. You've got, I got pants and everything.

1213
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: You can borrow some. All right, there we go, Ricky,

1214
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: happy birthday, wake up, sap. This one out the show.

1215
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: But why was it my fault? Rick No, no, you

1216
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: got you got. I just didn't want to mess up

1217
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: the flow. It was so good. Okay, that makes sense.

1218
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: All right. That's Dan hands is signing off right here

1219
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: for the Damnit Scheck, the mail Man, the Old Boss,

1220
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: and the seven year old Erica tempose behind the Glassy

1221
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: Dead till Wednesday