WEBVTT - Best of 2017 special 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.400 Loud and Quiet Presents Midnight Chats. 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:26.200 That's right, everybody, it's close to one am and it's 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:31.600 edging into the witching hour. So buckle down, you midnight campers, 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:36.320 and open the windows and get ready, get ready. 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.880 For Midnight to bring you a psychic gift. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:44.159 God bless Ryan Adams. He was our first guest on 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:48.120 the podcast this year, and we just felt we had 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:51.720 to play that again. This episode of the podcast is 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:56.000 what some might consider a lazy one. I'm here with Greg, 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.480 I'm Stuart And if you've listened to the podcast throughout 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.160 the whole year, you'll know all the people that we've 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.480 had on this year. But if you haven't, then you've 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.560 missed some really good stuff. I feel and I don't 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.560 know where you've been. Do you feel good about twenty seventeen? Greg, 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.160 It's the year that Jemma Collins fell down a hole. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:16.679 Absolutely highlight, wasn't it. Yeah, That's what I'll probably remember 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.840 twenty seventeen four. To be honest, Jimmer Collins falling down 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.560 a hole. I'm taking the Yeah, I'm taking all the 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:28.240 positives out of this year, feeling it wasn't as bad 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:29.520 as twenty sixteen, was it? 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:30.440 No? 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.440 But in a way, I feel it lost a lot 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:36.440 of the drama. I feel it lacked something this year. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.320 What we're going to do, as Student's already said, we've 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:45.080 had the highly original idea of putting together some of 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.440 our favorite moments from this year. So you're going to 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.320 hear small parts of the conversations that we've recorded for 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:55.960 Midnight Chats from the last twelve months. Hopefully, if you're 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.000 listening for the first time, it will give you a 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.440 bit of an idea about what we do. We publish 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:05.040 a new podcast every fortnight on a Thursday at midnight, 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.320 and the whole idea is that either stew or I 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:13.240 sit down with an artist somebody who we think will 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.760 have something interesting to say, and we have a conversation 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.280 and generally it has a sort of late night feel. 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.239 That's why it's called Midnight Chats. 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:22.120 We've had some. 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.959 Brilliant people on this year, and we're going to play 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.079 out some of the best bits. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.960 As they say, yeah, so we've kind of because we 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.120 know that there will be some people that subscribe to 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.840 the podcast and maybe listen to the most recent ones 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.919 quite recently, we've not chosen them. That's not to say 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.960 they weren't great. I particularly loved talking to Wesley Gonzalez 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.560 a couple of weeks ago for the podcast. Before that, 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.560 Charlotte Gainsburg. They would have been in my highlights if 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:49.160 they've been earlier in the year, but we feel we 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.440 should kind of call back to the beginning of the year. 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.679 Maybe people missed that Ryan Adams bit, so that's why 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:59.160 that's in there. The first one I'm going to pick. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.200 So we've picked a couple about our own favorites, because, 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.480 as Greg says, we take turns doing these interviews. The 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.880 first one she goes straight for this. Now ready for this? Okay, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.079 So the first one that I picked. This is a 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.680 short clip. This is the shortest clip I've picked, and 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.080 this is Laura Marlin I spoke to in February for 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.720 number nineteen, episode nineteen, So you can go back and 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.720 listen to the whole thing if this grabs you. This 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.519 is Laura talking about why she doesn't tour that much 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:30.520 and the fact that she has recently got into making cheese. 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.400 Well, right now, I've just got into making cheese. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:36.920 That's fun, Okay. 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.720 I've been making Halloomi and we're trying to get Halluomi. 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.080 Down Hallumy's my favorite cheese. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:42.520 It's it's the greatest cheese. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:43.480 It's the best cheese. 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.120 So it's kind of not cheese. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.560 I think when people say halloo is the greatest cheese 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:53.360 that I think that's quite You're not meant to say that, 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:54.080 are you not? 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:54.640 To the French. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.680 No, it's quite sacrilege just to say that is the 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.440 best cheese, but it is. Would I be right in 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.080 thinking that you don't tour that much? 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.680 I don't in comparison to most people. I tour very 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.160 very little. I like to be busy all the time, 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:13.560 not necessarily doing work, but like I am either reading 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.560 or knitting or you know, I'm not saying it's high 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.839 brow shit. I'm always doing stuff. But what I find 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:23.400 with tour is that it's a lot of empty time. 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.799 It's a very inefficient use of a day, in my opinion. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.200 And so you know, one can do whatever one can, 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.320 like go and see galleries or you know, get a 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:37.200 sense of the local stuff. But I've done it, and 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.000 so I've seen all the gallery you know, I can 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.479 go back whatever. But yeah, so there's bits of it 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.240 I find a little bit tough, and I like to 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:46.960 be at home and I don't like to feel like 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.320 I'm a slave to my career and some you know, 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.159 a lot of more sensible people than I do go 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.080 out and tool their bolocks off because that's how you 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.320 sustain a career. And I'm just about managing to do 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.200 that without doing all the touring. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.360 And you've got the cheese, Now, what is that? 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.599 You know, there's a huge gap in the Halloomi market 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.360 in London and I'm ready to step in. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.479 Did you come away from that episode of Midnight Chats 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.919 with any of Laura Marlin's cheese? 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.080 No, she didn't bring any of the cheese with her. 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:21.920 That was a really fun one to do. I felt 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.679 quite privileged that we got Laura Marlin because she doesn't 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.000 do much as well as touring, she doesn't do much press, 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.560 and she doesn't do many interviews, so it was it 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.560 was nice that she that she came on and she's 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.440 got one of those voices that you could as you 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.880 can hear from that we're pretty much talking a load 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.560 of bollocks for most of it about really, I mean, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.279 that's what this podcast essentially has become. That's when I 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:48.560 feel it's that it's best Greg when we're talking about nonsense. 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.159 We have chat about I mean, go back and listen 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.320 to that. I recommend it to anyone if you missed it, 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:58.360 because we also talk about Amazon and why I think 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:04.480 it's evil. And Laura and Marlin also has a fixation 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:08.159 with the year nineteen sixty nine, Yeah, and has collected 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.839 she collects memorabilia from nineteen sixteen and I think she's 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.080 stopped that now, but we talk a little bit about that. 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.799 So there's loads in there, but no no cheese. 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.480 Presumably if you're listening to this, it means you're a 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.680 fan of podcasts. And Laura and Marlin has a really 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:26.000 good podcast series that she made probably about eighteen months 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:27.839 ago now, which is why we wanted to get her on. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:32.279 So that's called Reversal of the Muse. Yeah, and she 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:36.440 went out and spoke to lots of other female artists, 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.040 women working in the music industry to get their perspective 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.560 on things. It was really inventive and really interesting. 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:42.840 So if you. 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.240 Are a fan of podcasts, which you obviously are because 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.960 you're listening to this, then check out Laura Marlins as well. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.880 I think it's on her SoundCloud. Okay, okay, and get 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:51.320 it all there. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:56.279 Yeah, A sign that we are starting to build a archive, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:01.040 a catalog of Midnight Chats for me came in this 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.240 sort of early summer of this year when I went 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:08.560 to go and meet Thundercat. You know that guy, the 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.080 bass wielding California. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.000 Dude, the jazz man, jazzy boy. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:17.480 He's one of the is. You could definitely call him 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.360 a dude. He's got an order about him and he's 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:26.800 got an impressive selection of garments. I mean he looked 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.080 on stage. He often wears what looks like a kind 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.960 of really nice dressing gown. You know, he's a man 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.960 who smells good and wears great clothes. Anyway, I was 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.360 looking forward to meeting him, and the sign that we've 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.480 made lots of these episodes of the podcast now came 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:49.880 there because Thundercat's really good mates with Flying Lotus, and 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.400 in the middle of last year we recorded an episode 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.960 of Midnight Chats with Flying Lotus in an old cinema 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.239 in central London because he was screening a film called Royal, 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.640 which went on to form part of another bigger feature 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.600 length film that Fly Notse made called Cuso, which came 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:13.120 out this year twenty seventeen. Anyway, Flying Lotus and Thundercat. 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.800 When they're back home in Los Angeles, they hang out, 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:20.440 they play video games, they stroke Thundercat's cat called Tron, 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.160 which he talked about in this podcast as well. And 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.200 so when I caught up with Thundercat, I wanted to 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.960 ask him what he made of that film Cuso, because 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.160 to be honest, every time I think about it, we'll 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:37.160 talk about it. I cannot begin to describe just how 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.960 gross and dark and weird and warped. I've never seen 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:45.079 anything like that movie. So I basically wanted Thundercat to 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:46.720 do my job for me, and I asked him if 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:47.559 he could describe it. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:53.520 Oh my god, Yeah, I don't even know. 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:56.120 I don't. 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.680 Yeah, that's a figured one, man. I honestly, you know, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.160 kind of threw me off there. I don't know how 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.119 to describe that movie. It's just really intense. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.840 He was saying that he's I mean so to feel 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.839 people in and you've known each other probably about a 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.559 decade or more, and that he's always wanted to make 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.280 films as well as the Yeah, he's been kind of 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.080 working on So how long have you, I mean, as 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.840 sure as a kind of close native is have you 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.360 been talking about the ideas and have been talking about 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.719 this stuff that's coming to fruition now, but I bet 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.640 it's gone back to conversations for years now. 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:37.480 Right man. It's mind blowing to see it coming to fruition. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:37.800 You know. 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.680 It's like, you know, there were moments where, of course, 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.280 you know, I know, you know Lotus's history with you know, 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.000 film and stuff like that, and everything from that to 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.760 him rapping his Captain Murphy was always a shock to me. 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:49.720 You know. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.200 It was kind of like a little bit of a 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.480 different facet of his character that he would never let on, 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:56.680 you know, like you would never have known, You're like, 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:01.240 no way, you know, And to see his first film, 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:05.480 it's like it's fantastic. It honestly is. It's like, you know, 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.880 we would talk every now and again about it, you know, 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.600 and I feel like his uh, he influenced me in 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.320 that manner a bit, because it's like I was a 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.760 bit of a film buff, but not until I met Lotus, 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:19.440 that dude. You know, he knows his film and to 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.080 a major degree. It's like if it would affect me 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:23.720 to you know, to to the way I would write 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.760 music and stuff too. But at the same time, it's 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.920 like I would have never thought that he would actually, 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.520 you know, do it. And you know, the best way 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.040 to describe it is, you know, don't underestimate Flying Lotus. 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:38.520 You know, Yeah, that's all you can That's that's how 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:39.520 I can sum it up. Man. 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.160 I thought it was funny that when he was trying 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.760 to describe the movie, because he had trouble himself, because 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:50.280 it is a it's kind of it's dark, it's kind 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.680 of full of dark humor, but it's also pretty much 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.520 I mean, maybe maybe you've seen similar films, but I 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.120 certainly haven't. If to me, it was something quite different 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:05.240 and it's pretty gross. That's putting it very lightly. And 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.880 he told me that his grandmother had been to see it, 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:10.960 which I thought was just absolutely super. 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.520 You got to take the family. You got to let 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:14.880 them know how crazy you are. 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:15.720 Exact. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.400 You always have to ever reminder like, don't forget I'm crazy. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.640 Yeah, Oh, it's definitely that when you I mean with 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.960 going back, you know you now notice for a number 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.480 of years and you mentioned there that until you met him, 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:30.439 he was a he was a guy that could kind 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.160 of school you in movies. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:33.200 You never even heard of. 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.160 What's the best recommendation you ever had from movie from 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:36.920 from Flying Nights. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.240 Oh man, it was the day when he introduced me 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.520 to old boy. Okay, yeah, he's the one that turned 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.360 me on an old boy, you know. And it was 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.840 just mind blowing. It was funny because it's like it's 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.600 like guys of a certain cloth, you know. It's like 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.080 he's like, hey, you know, you need to go see 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.160 this movie. And I was like what, you know. I 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.000 was like all right, sure, you know, and I watched 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.640 it and I was like, oh my god. He was 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.920 like right, and I was like yeah, and he was like, 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.760 we just need more movies like that, and I was like, yeah, 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.480 we need more movies like yeah. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.959 It's it's about opening for people that haven't seen it. 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:16.240 It's a Korean film, it's a it's a it's an 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:17.720 amazing film, you know. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.360 It's a it's a revenge story. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.840 That's I wouldn't want to ruin it for anybody that 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.000 hasn't seen it yet. But it's one of those things 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.920 where it the twists are so hard in this movie 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.240 that it just may give you whiplash. 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:30.480 Man. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:35.920 It's it's it's it is intense, man, it's everything, it's violent, 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.319 it's just everything you want to happen in a movie 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.720 that you would be like, oh, that is cringe worthy. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.640 It's this is that movie, you know, and it's like, 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.800 it's just got this amazing climactic moment in the movie 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.800 that I just will just ruin your life. 0:12:54.760 --> 0:13:03.040 This is some recommendation. Thundercat sounded very relaxed. Shall we say, yeah, Greg, 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.720 did you get the fear? He was a relaxed guy. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.760 Guy likes relaxing. He is very relaxed. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:14.200 He was backstage at a venue called Heaven in central 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.200 London where we recorded that, and he was sat next 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:21.360 to a throne that apparently Madonna and Britney Spears have 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.960 both used on stage at that club. It's quite a 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:29.680 famous gay club in the mid center of town. And yeah, 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.400 he was. It was It was a relaxed scenario. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:40.080 I'm going to now push straight on into my second highlight, 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:44.760 second choice. This is Samuel t Herring of Future Islands 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:49.600 and this guy is almost the complete opposite to Thundercat 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.480 in his approach to kind of maybe everything in life, 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:57.080 certainly to speaking. He is a ball of energy as 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.480 if you've seen Future Islands play or you've heard him speak, 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.240 then you're you know, you'll know this. Like, Sam Herring 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.840 is a man who likes to move around, and we 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.520 didn't We didn't even speak about the new album that 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.720 he was promoting when he was in town at all. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.360 We were just kind of talking one hundred miles an 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.840 hour about all sorts of things from Baltimore and touring 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.040 and all. This is a hard grafting band who basically 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.200 work their asses off until a certain moment in time, 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.000 which I'm sure everyone knows about by now, when they 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.680 got their first TV performance and they performed Seasons on 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.680 the David Letterman Show. And that's what we're talking about here. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:40.360 It's one of those things that I think Sam is 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.720 probably sick of being asked about. God bless him. He 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.840 didn't mind me talking about it because I was. I 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.320 was still fascinated to hear from his point of view 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.840 just exactly what had happened that night. If you know 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.640 the clip, you'll know it. You'll you'll know exactly what 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.640 he's talking about. If not, just check out on YouTube. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:01.000 It's probably had a billion views by now, Seasons on 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.560 Let Them and you'll find it easily. And it was 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.800 just this particular performance when Future Islands played that first 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:12.400 TV show, and instead of adapting it to be on 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.640 TV like most bands would, they just played it like 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.760 they would any of their million gigs that they play 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:23.240 every year. And this is Sam talking about that experience 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:27.160 and exactly how it played out from his point of view. 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.040 I mean, we were nervous, but we treated like any 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.240 other gig. And the thing you don't see on camera 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.840 is that that studio is smaller then. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.520 We thought it would be, which was good. 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:43.240 Yeah, you know it's like a theater, right, yeah, so 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.240 maybe fit's like three or four hundred. So so the 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.960 audience isn't Actually they are far away from you, but 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.200 it's not too far. But if you watch, you know, 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.680 I'm walking past the monitors out towards the people. I'm 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.560 actually like looking at grandmas who are are like what's happening? 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.640 You know, they have they're not scared, but they have 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.960 like kindind of like really kind of amazed looks on 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.840 like what's happening right now? And you know our friends 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.200 in the audience. You know, I'm looking out to the people. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.960 And I think that's the big thing about that performance 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.600 was that it wasn't it wasn't insular to a band 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.080 like you're watching a band on TV on the stage, Like, 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.760 but it's it's the connection that we've always had with 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.000 people to try to connect with people and look at 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.880 people in the eyes, like looking past the cameras, you know, 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:30.960 because it's because it's not because there's something past behind 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:31.800 the cameras. 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:32.000 You know what I mean? 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.000 Yeah, but yeah, you know that performance would have been 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:40.240 very different if it had been three years prior. Not 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.120 that it wouldn't have had the same impact. There's no telling, 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.080 but the fact that you know, we had at that point, 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.520 we'd played over seven hundred and fifty almost eight hundred 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.000 shows like that shows and that performance, and also we 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.160 aren't the band that was put together and played some 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.400 shows and now is going to get their TV debut 0:16:58.560 --> 0:16:59.960 after putting out their first record. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.320 Like we were old road dogs who were. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:07.000 Getting a chance at uh at sharing what we what 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.320 we do, and so you you know, I I mean 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.119 I was reasoning with myself backstage, like am I going 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:13.840 to do the things I do on stage? Are you 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.600 going to go for the growl? Are you going to 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.080 hit your chest? You know, like like how are you 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:19.040 going to approach this? 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:20.600 And and you know, so. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.120 There were there were nerves involved and not really being 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:24.840 sure and even in the you know, I kind of 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.680 blacked out on stage and just was in the performance. 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:28.960 And that's where you want to be, you know, you 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.960 want to be. You want to be in a place 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.560 where you're not really thinking about if your zipper is 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:39.880 up or not you're gonna fall over, and that that 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.160 was the beauty of his response was that the song ended, 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.199 and in my head, I said, we did it, like 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:51.280 we got through it, nobody like and this and I 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.280 heard that whoa from the side and that's when I 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.239 was like, oh, like kind of snapped back into it, 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.760 and and he had his great response, which like, like 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:00.920 I said, like even after that performance, we walked off 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:01.320 and we're like. 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:02.640 I think we did good. I think we did good. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.719 Yeah, that felt pretty good and had no idea of 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.640 the impact it would have because once again, we were 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.600 just doing what we do every night. And that's been 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.520 that's been the most the funniest thing to it about 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:17.960 about how that performances has brought such a huge new 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:22.200 audience to our band ash which is good because it's 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.639 not like people people found out about us and then 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:29.600 come to a show even still expecting that that's actually. 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:29.840 Going to happen. 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.520 Yeah, they're like they come to a show like was 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:33.000 that real? 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:34.440 And then they come to show and see that it's 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:38.960 actually even more intense and continues to be intense, you know, 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.320 like like that three and a half minutes is only 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.879 a small piece of a of a larger puzzle, of 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.639 a bigger show and a range of more emotions, you know, 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:49.600 and and. 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:51.280 So so that was cool. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.840 We didn't because it took that long to get that moment. 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.920 We didn't take any of the any of the accolades 0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:59.160 for granted. 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.320 Or the the. 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.080 The growth for you know. We were just like we 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.080 felt like we earned it. 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:11.320 Old road Dogs roll dug, We're old road Dogs. I 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:17.720 love that Samuel t Herring podcast because I think when 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.160 we record these episodes, they're quite often well, they've been 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:25.199 a whole range of feelings and emotions, and some of 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.119 them are quite silly and some of them are quite 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:32.520 serious and reflective. And that one in particular is really 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.280 uplifting because as you hear him saying, their Future Islands 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:39.760 have been a band for a long time. It took 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:43.840 him eight hundred old shows before their breakthrough moment, and 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.359 it's just really nice to see isn't it. And he 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:48.280 comes across. He came across really well. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.399 I like the guy. Yeah, he's one of those people. 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:56.320 He's very good at making you feel at ease as 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:59.080 soon as you meet him, like he's just a very 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:02.200 friendly guy. I do Sam a little bit of an apology, 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:06.080 because when I do the bits of artwork for each episode, 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.719 we just do the same bit of artwork with slightly 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:12.399 with different coloring. That's what we do. And Sam's he 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.760 got the short straw. He's got such a shitty color combo. 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:17.960 And I don't know what I was thinking. It's like 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:22.040 a brown background and like orange lettering. I don't know 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.239 what I was thinking with that one. And it's one 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.440 of the ones that I look at and I think, well, 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.560 that's that's the bad one. That's the worst one. I 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.280 think it's not reflective of Sam. I just think I 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.280 was having an off day with my colors. 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.159 The next clip we're going to play is from an 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:42.320 episode that I recorded just in autumn, Just Gone By, 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:47.280 with an artist called Julienne Baker, who is sort of 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:53.080