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Speaker 2: the main story, and who would have thought this would

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Speaker 2: be a big story, a story at any point this year,

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Speaker 2: the cold signing Philip Rivers to the practice squad. Now

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Speaker 2: everybody seems to be focusing on and maybe I started

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Speaker 2: this of he's a semi finalist for the Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame this year. Now I don't think he's a first

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Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer. In fact, I think he's a

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Speaker 2: borderline Hall of Famer. But I'm also wondering about this.

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Speaker 2: Once he gets on the roster, he doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: play in a game. Once he's officially on the roster

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Speaker 2: right now, practice squad. When he's on the roster, then

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Speaker 2: they start the clock again. He won't be eligible until

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty one, that is, unless he plays next year

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Speaker 2: as well. But I'm hoping they find somebody, maybe another grandfather,

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Speaker 2: that they can put in for Philip Rivers. But it's

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Speaker 2: a big story. I don't think he's going to be

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Speaker 2: playing against Seattle. Boy. If you're going to make your

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Speaker 2: debut after a five year drought of not playing and

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Speaker 2: you're going to come in and play in Seattle against

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Speaker 2: that Seattle defense, yikes. Isn't there another quarterback somewhere in

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Speaker 2: the world who might be a little better than Philip Rivers. Now,

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Speaker 2: I understand that he understands the offense. He's in contact

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Speaker 2: with Shane Stike and the head coach on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 2: I understand all of that. Are you trying to tell

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Speaker 2: me that there's not another quarterback who might be just

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Speaker 2: a better option and a little younger than Philip Rivers?

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Speaker 2: Just a thought. Welcome to the program, already in progress.

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Speaker 2: A couple of movements on betting lines that caught my attention.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers were favored or getting three and a half

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Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. At the Chiefs they were getting three

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Speaker 2: and a half. Now it's four and a half. The

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Speaker 2: Vikings were getting six against the Cowboys. Now they're getting

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Speaker 2: five and a half. Just little things like that. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm always curious. We get to midweek and when the

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Speaker 2: sharps decide that they're going to bet. But the Chargers

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Speaker 2: now getting four and a half against the Chiefs. I

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Speaker 2: think the reality set in. The Chiefs and the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: have the same record. I think they're both six and seven,

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Speaker 2: and you go, wait, oh my gosh. Now the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: with maybe a winning record when it's all said and done.

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Speaker 2: But with the Chiefs and you go, Oh, that's when

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Speaker 2: it starts to sink in of just how bad this

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Speaker 2: react quickly and we jump to conclusions. If you're Andy Reid,

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Speaker 2: do you want to stay around for this? Okay, they

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Speaker 2: went in as a super Bowl contender, maybe the best

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Speaker 2: And now it's all, does Andy Reid want to stay

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Speaker 2: quickly here, but the Chiefs are different. This will be

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Speaker 2: Kelsey's last year. They thought they shored up the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Still got to be able to run the football as

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Speaker 2: I was surprised he played one more year. But he's

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Speaker 2: still a first ballot Hall of Famer. But he does

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Speaker 2: look like he's on his last legs. He had one

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Speaker 2: because Mike Tomlin won the game this past weekend doesn't

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it feels like I'd

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Speaker 2: get rid to that guy. Who were we bringing in?

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Speaker 2: And the same thing with Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh, who

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Speaker 2: Do I think he's underachieved greatly in the last decade,

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Speaker 2: Yes I do. In that city with that talent, yes

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Speaker 2: is for every one of these coaches, who's your quarterback?

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Speaker 2: you got to go in and get a quarterback. Mason Rudolph,

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Speaker 2: Just like we saw in Denver when Sean Payton came

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Speaker 2: He said, bow Knicks is my quarterback, and he wanted

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Speaker 2: Drake may Rabel's not your coach of the year. But

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Speaker 2: remember when Jaden Daniels was a top two, top three,

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Speaker 2: been a landslide. Now Drake may might even get a

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Speaker 2: to hear Andy Reid want to be in a rebuild.

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Speaker 2: certainly feels that way. Seeing what's pole question today?

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Speaker 3: Which would be more important to you playing a couple

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Speaker 2: Can I have both?

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Speaker 3: You can? But for the sake of this poll question.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well, this is the thing that I'm curious

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Speaker 2: looking at his numbers and all of a sudden, they

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Speaker 2: So I wonder about that with Philip, Now, if he

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Speaker 2: But you come back and there's a chance to add

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Speaker 2: from his resume if he comes back he doesn't play well.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's expecting that. But if you reset

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Speaker 2: a whole new wave of quarterbacks that you might be

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Speaker 2: competing for votes with. And he's a semi finalist this year,

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Speaker 2: but once he goes to the active roster, then he's

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Speaker 2: taken out a consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paulie, this is what every NFL player wants. They

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Speaker 4: want to come back for four weeks. Steve Young comes

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Speaker 4: on the show every month and says, if I could

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Speaker 4: play right now.

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Speaker 5: I would.

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Speaker 4: You asked JJ Watt if he could walk out of

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Speaker 4: the booths, play two games and they go right back

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Speaker 4: to the booth and push his clock back five years,

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Speaker 4: he probably would. And this is one of those anomaly

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but JJ wants a first ballan Hall of Famer

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers is not.

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Speaker 4: I guess what Philip Rivers is? I think forty four.

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Speaker 4: You said, yeah, the Hall of Fame is the Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame or not. And he has no control and

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Speaker 4: he gets to play one or two or three more

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Speaker 4: football games for a good team.

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Speaker 2: This is the dream, Yes, tod.

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Speaker 6: Not to be Debbie down, but I'll where that has

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Speaker 6: what if it's a total disaster. Though he goes out

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Speaker 6: there pick six, he's over and underthrowing receivers. The balls

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Speaker 6: got a little squiggled to it, and he looks like

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Speaker 6: he has no business being out there for whatever reason.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would be surprised at that. I

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Speaker 2: think we'll be surprised if he's good. I don't think

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Speaker 4: Phil Rivers right now is sixth all time and touchdown

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Speaker 2: But he was never the best quarterback of his era.

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Speaker 4: Stat wise? He was always there with touchdowns. He only

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Speaker 2: But no, he went against some pretty pretty impressive resumes there. Yeah, Pauling, this.

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Speaker 2: spent a little bit of time, maybe too much time,

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Speaker 2: talking about Philip Rivers, Philip Rivers Hall of Famer, a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so hard to get into the Pro Football

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Speaker 7: I think since it's only like thirteen guys like since

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Speaker 2: That is, Okay, whose career would you want?

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Speaker 7: Honest, just off the top of my head, I think

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Speaker 5: So if you give me one, I think I'd rather

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Speaker 2: Okay, Matt, excuse me. I'd rather have Philip Rivers. Matthew

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Speaker 7: I think he wins another one this year, then we're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he might be MVP this year.

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna be Matt Stafford, not first ballot.

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Speaker 2: How does this work out for Philip Rivers and the

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Speaker 7: Like, as much as he's older than me, and as

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Speaker 7: But it's really fast, and it's really hard, And his

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Speaker 5: I know he's been coaching, but it's so fast.

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Speaker 2: Skittih Okay, explain that to me that you can see

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Speaker 2: Who's the one quarterback though that above everybody else was

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Speaker 7: It's funny because it feels like lazy analysis, but like,

435
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Speaker 7: fifteen's proven that we should respect him. But yeah, they've

436
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Speaker 7: been the same team for the past two or three

437
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Speaker 7: years with differing levels of defense, and we all thought

438
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Speaker 7: we were extra smart when we were like, but look,

439
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Speaker 7: it's gonna catch up to them, and it didn't catch

440
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Speaker 7: up to them. It finally is caught up to him,

441
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Speaker 7: Like the drop passes, Like, of course, these guys are

442
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Speaker 7: professional football players. They're not gonna drop a lot of

443
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Speaker 7: passes and they're going to have penalties, Like these things

444
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Speaker 7: are gonna happen. It just felt like in those situations

445
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Speaker 7: it always went their way in the past. And then,

446
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Speaker 7: of course if you're in a close game, that's when

447
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Speaker 7: the value of a quarterback goes up. So this team

448
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Speaker 7: survived a lot beating teams that were better than them

449
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Speaker 7: because of good fortune, good coaching, and a great quarterback,

450
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Speaker 7: and ultimately it caught up to them.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Dominic Foxworth, host of The Dominic Foxworth Show,

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Speaker 2: ESPN writer and contributor former NFL defenship back. Who's a

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Speaker 2: great team this year?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I would say the Packers and the

455
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Speaker 7: Rams are the teams that I would look at and say,

456
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Speaker 7: these are super Bowl caliber teams. Sometimes teams that don't

457
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Speaker 7: look like super Bowl caliber teams end.

458
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Speaker 5: Up winning the super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: It happens probably a couple times a decade, two, three,

460
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Speaker 7: four times a decade. That could certainly happen this year.

461
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Speaker 7: No one in the AFC do I look at and say, oh, yeah,

462
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Speaker 7: they're definitely. I'll show them and I can guarantee they'll

463
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Speaker 7: be at least in the conference game, and it'll be

464
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Speaker 7: a fluke if they don't make it. I feel like

465
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Speaker 7: I would say that if the Packers or the Rams

466
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Speaker 7: don't make it out of the NFC, I'd be surprised.

467
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Speaker 7: It'd be some sort of flucush streak that someone got

468
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Speaker 7: hot and ripped off of Joe Flacco style run, and

469
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Speaker 7: I would be surprised by it.

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Speaker 5: But everybody else is so flawed in important ways.

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Speaker 2: Does the NFL have a long field goal problem?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it hasn't gotten there yet for me, Like, I

473
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Speaker 7: get the point that you're making, but I also feel like,

474
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Speaker 7: combined with the change and the kickoff rules and the

475
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Speaker 7: aggressiveness on fourth down, I think the incentive to kick

476
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Speaker 7: a long field goal is still not really that overwhelming.

477
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Speaker 7: Like I think right now we're kind of in a

478
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Speaker 7: sweet spot where guys are likely to go forward, teams

479
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Speaker 7: are likely to go for it on fourth down. It

480
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Speaker 7: feels like even within the five, we've had more teams

481
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Speaker 7: go for it on fourth down, which is what I want. Like,

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Speaker 7: I love the suspense of a last second field goal,

483
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Speaker 7: but I like it at the last second.

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Speaker 5: If you're in the red zone in the third quarter,

485
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Speaker 5: I want you to go. I want you to throw

486
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Speaker 5: the ball. I want you to play football and not kick.

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Speaker 2: Could you see maybe raising the crossbar at some point,

488
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Speaker 2: like you know, we had to do this with the

489
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Speaker 2: extra point because it became formulaic. But can you see

490
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Speaker 2: the NFL doing something that will discourage or maybe say

491
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Speaker 2: encourage you to go for something instead of trying to

492
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Speaker 2: kick a field goal.

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Speaker 5: I could see it happen.

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Speaker 7: And again I haven't seen the numbers from this season,

495
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Speaker 7: so but I don't get the sense that it's become

496
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Speaker 7: a problem. And I think when you score, if you

497
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Speaker 7: kick a field goal or you score a touchdown the kickoffs.

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Speaker 7: I know the starting position has moved up for a

499
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Speaker 7: lot of teams, so it doesn't feel like as good

500
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Speaker 7: of a proposition to give.

501
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Speaker 5: Up three points and then give them the ball.

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Speaker 7: On the thirty five they get one first down and

503
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Speaker 7: they're in field goal range again. So like, I still

504
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Speaker 7: don't feel like we're there. But if we get there,

505
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Speaker 7: the NFL will have no problem change in the rule.

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Speaker 7: But I'm not sure that they would move to crossbar.

507
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Speaker 7: They're smarter than that. I think they would do something

508
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Speaker 7: outside of making a more obvious change, because that's when

509
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Speaker 7: we get upset when it's something we can see and

510
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Speaker 7: bothers us like they tweak the rules to a certain

511
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Speaker 7: extent that changes the incentive structure.

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Speaker 5: The way that I'm talking about. Maybe they moved the

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Speaker 5: kickoff where they move.

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Speaker 7: The kick off up even or back even further, so

515
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Speaker 7: that it even more accentuates the idea that if you score,

516
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Speaker 7: it better be worth it because you're going to give

517
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Speaker 7: the other team the ball at midfield. That's worth seven points,

518
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Speaker 7: that's not worth three.

519
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Speaker 2: Why don't we have lasers going up the goal post,

520
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Speaker 2: because like, I mean, no, it's it can be an

521
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Speaker 2: exact science right, choose not to make it an exact science.

522
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Speaker 7: Because we didn't build I think the idea that this

523
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Speaker 7: was going to be a thing that happened. Those uprights

524
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Speaker 7: they were so high. No one was kicking over them

525
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Speaker 7: at any point. I think putting lasers at the top

526
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Speaker 7: of the uprights that turn on at for field goals

527
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Speaker 7: and extra points might be something worth doing that we

528
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Speaker 7: wouldn't change or use the the chip that's in the ball,

529
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Speaker 7: but nobody was kicking it over the uprights before the past.

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Speaker 2: That's a new thing, okay, but now they aren't. I

531
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Speaker 2: mean you could do fun colors there. This is this

532
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Speaker 2: is we're in the entertainment business here.

533
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Speaker 7: I mean, you are betraying the gray hair that you have.

534
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 7: Is like, what are we doing?

535
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Speaker 5: Like I thought that you're supposed to you're a future guy.

536
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 5: You want AI referees. Yeah, I would have assumed.

537
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Speaker 7: So I'm the old guy the Cribune and it's like,

538
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 7: don't put lasers on my field, Like I want football,

539
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 7: Let's run the ball three yards cloud of dust.

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Speaker 2: I added this gray hair. I actually have dark hair.

541
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Speaker 2: I put this on.

542
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Speaker 5: It's beautiful. I like it.

543
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Speaker 2: I need to get something. If you will it's coming

544
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Speaker 2: your way. Do you have any thoughts on the college

545
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Speaker 2: football playoffs?

546
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's funny that we're arguing about these

547
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 7: teams that I think don't have a chance of getting in.

548
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Speaker 7: But I think ultimately, while we do focus, we zero

549
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 7: in on these like these micro issues. The macro issue

550
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 7: is that college football is trying to build these new

551
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Speaker 7: structures on top of a faulty foundation. And as long

552
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Speaker 7: as we have these conferences where the talent is so like,

553
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Speaker 7: the talent differential is so disparate.

554
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Speaker 5: There's only twelve games, so.

555
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Speaker 7: You're not gonna get a good idea of who's actually

556
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Speaker 7: good and who's actually bad. There's no way to solve this.

557
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Speaker 7: There's not a playoff bracket big enough, I think to

558
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 7: get an actual champ. Like we're in the between. We're

559
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Speaker 7: trying to build a professional league on top of these

560
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Speaker 7: amateur structures and until we like restructure all of it

561
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Speaker 7: and then there are clear conferences where we know who's

562
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Speaker 7: good and who's bad. In the NFL because they all

563
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Speaker 7: play teams that are all around the same level, we

564
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Speaker 7: don't really know in college. And then even in the playoffs,

565
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Speaker 7: you're looking at the consistency of kids who are eighteen

566
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Speaker 7: to twenty four, like, I can't think of anyone less

567
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Speaker 7: trustworthy than a man eighteen to twenty four.

568
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Speaker 2: Good to catch up with you. Good, thank you, Dominic,

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Speaker 2: No problem, Dan, thank you. Dominic Foxworth, host of The

570
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Speaker 2: Dominic Foxworth Show, ESPN contributor from our NFL Defenship Back

571
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Speaker 2: Johnny and Pittsburgh. Hey Johnny, what's on your mind today?

572
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Speaker 9: Hey guys A sixty three time two sixty three ninety kens,

573
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Speaker 9: I have a whose career would you rather have? And

574
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Speaker 9: then a quick follow up on the Notre Dame break

575
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Speaker 9: New Heizel comments from yesterday. First of all, I would

576
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Speaker 9: only ask this from your show because of the totality

577
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Speaker 9: of your wisdom on this show and this panel. But

578
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Speaker 9: warn Moon or Jim Kelly and think about the totality

579
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Speaker 9: of their careers. Secondly, New heidel comments were awesome. I

580
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Speaker 9: love that dude and he makes a lot of great points.

581
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Speaker 9: And one thing I'm gonna say is think about the

582
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Speaker 9: Mown Invitational. Think about all these tournaments college hoops have

583
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Speaker 9: to get you excited about the upcoming season. Football doesn't

584
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Speaker 9: necessarily need it, but in order to have bowl games

585
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Speaker 9: instead of like irrelevant matchups Week one, Week two, like

586
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Speaker 9: Toledo or Youngstown State or whatever, no offense, make them

587
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Speaker 9: make them bowl games.

588
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Speaker 7: And you know, if.

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Speaker 9: Notre Dame is I think all sports fans like a

590
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Speaker 9: little chaos, and Notre Dame is going to be chaotic

591
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Speaker 9: going forward for more reasons than one. They are setting

592
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Speaker 9: a president with this nil money and bring you know,

593
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Speaker 9: touched on it yesterday, this nal money. This is only

594
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Speaker 9: going to get exacerbated the further we go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm all in favor of putting the bowl

596
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Speaker 2: games to start the year to ensure that you get

597
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Speaker 2: quality matchups. Maybe you get a matchup that you're facing

598
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Speaker 2: somebody that you wouldn't normally face, you get promotional fallout

599
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Speaker 2: from that. It's going to be in September. The weather

600
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Speaker 2: will be fine, and it's just like college basketball. They

601
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Speaker 2: do this every year. Nobody goes all the ACC and

602
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Speaker 2: the Big ten are playing. Oh that's terrible, No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Marvin, I think the big issue is going to

605
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Speaker 10: be all those ball games are over Christmas breaks, So

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Speaker 10: programming ESPN depends on.

607
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Speaker 2: That program absolutely, and there's.

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Speaker 10: So many people games on the twenty seventh twenty eight,

609
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Speaker 10: twenty ninth, the thirtieth of December, when people are off,

610
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Speaker 10: they're all for the holidays. It's going to be so

611
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Speaker 10: tough to try to fix it.

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Speaker 2: I realize having been at the Mothership, the importance of

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Speaker 2: college football with those bowl games, and you get that

614
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Speaker 2: entire month that you own and the filler that's there.

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Speaker 2: We got bull games coming up Friday, I think, so

616
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Speaker 2: they're already starting, and maybe we do know your bowl

617
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Speaker 2: games on Friday. Yeah, but it's starting already. This is

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Speaker 2: what the mothership, and they will fight. They will fight this. Yes, Paulie.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing more in disingenuous on social media where people

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Speaker 4: say I don't watch any of the ball games. Nobody

621
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Speaker 4: cares about the bowl games. The ratings are always really good.

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Speaker 4: People watch, even their exhibitions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they watch. It's a filler. We're looking for something.

624
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Speaker 2: We watch machin on Tuesday night. Do you have the

625
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Speaker 2: first bowl game on Friday, paul.

626
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Speaker 5: Course, I do.

627
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Speaker 4: I think I think the first one is Saturday afternoon

628
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Speaker 4: or noon. The cricket celebration.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's it. Okay, that's really good.

630
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Speaker 4: With the bands South Carolina State, Prairie Review, A and M.

631
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Speaker 2: Can they tell us when the bands are going to

632
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Speaker 2: be on the field. I'll text you that we can

633
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Speaker 2: just tune in for that. Yes, all right, let me

634
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Speaker 2: take a break. More phone calls coming up. Paul Finebaumb

635
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Speaker 2: will join us in about a half hour from now.

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639
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Speaker 2: I think Shaq's gonna join us tomorrow or Friday. Rob

641
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Speaker 2: Gronkowski not sure if it's tomorrow or Friday as well.

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Speaker 2: You know, one of the things I love about Paul

643
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Speaker 2: Finbaum is I'm never quite sure where he stands on

644
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Speaker 2: a topic. You know, he's usually very neutral. So when

645
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Speaker 2: he says that the committee got it right, and the

646
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Speaker 2: crying from Notre Dame is quite frankly embarrassing. They cried,

647
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Speaker 2: they didn't get their way, and then they said, you know,

648
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Speaker 2: we're going home. We're taking our ball like a five

649
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Speaker 2: year old in the playground by not going to a

650
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Speaker 2: bull game. Why did they get it right? Because Notre

651
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Speaker 2: Dame had very little to show on his resume had

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Speaker 2: they joined the ACC which they by the way are

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Speaker 2: a member of in every other sport, they would have

654
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Speaker 2: played for the ACC championship game. Whull fine bomb of

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Speaker 2: the Mothership joining us on the program. Hey, you're a

656
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Speaker 2: little fired up about Notre Dame. What drew your ire?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? But I have a correction, Dan, in the ACC,

658
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Speaker 11: Notre Dame is a member I think also in field hockey.

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Speaker 5: So let me make sure I tell America fair enough.

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Speaker 11: Dan, You've been around Notre Dame a lot, and I

661
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Speaker 11: spent most of Monday on ESDN talking about your interview

662
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Speaker 11: with the AD and I think if he had stopped there,

663
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Speaker 11: it would have been great. He went on a big platform,

664
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Speaker 11: he told us, told everybody off, but then he continued

665
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Speaker 11: to talk, and he talked himself into a corner and

666
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Speaker 11: ultimately Notre Dame's resume is good. It's not great.

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Speaker 2: Is this committee good?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 11: I mean it was a clown show. We all know that,

671
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Speaker 11: and they changed the rules as they went along. But

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Speaker 11: ultimately I still felt Miami deserved to be in Did Alabama?

673
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Speaker 11: Should Alabama have made it?

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Speaker 5: I think so?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I said that because I live in Alabama and I

677
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Speaker 11: have a Nick Saban sad head in my bedroom. It's

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Speaker 11: because it's because I believe that they should not have

679
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Speaker 11: been eliminated by playing an extra game. But you know

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Speaker 11: all that Notre Dame is the story of the week

681
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Speaker 11: and was the one thing I don't understand that Pete

682
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Speaker 11: said here and later at a press conference, he made

683
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Speaker 11: all these threats.

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Speaker 2: What has he done since making all these threats. Well,

685
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Speaker 2: I think that's on. I think that's coming up in January.

686
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Speaker 2: I think there'll be something that's happening. I think it

687
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Speaker 2: was smart to say, hey, we're gonna, you know, huddle,

688
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Speaker 2: and we're going to figure out what our next move is.

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Speaker 2: I thought they were too reactionary, you know, when the

690
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Speaker 2: kids said we're not going to play in a bowl game.

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Speaker 2: I think if they gave them a couple of days

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Speaker 2: to think about it. Even Pete's reaction when you know,

693
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Speaker 2: we reached out and he said, yeah, come on, and

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden he said there's permanent damage.

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Speaker 2: I think if he would have stopped and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: explain to me how we're ahead of this team for

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Speaker 2: five weeks and then all of a sudden it gets

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Speaker 2: to the final you know, the day of reckoning, and

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Speaker 2: then they leap frog us. Explain that to me, I

700
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Speaker 2: think we all could have understood that if that happened

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Speaker 2: to Alabama. How would you react if Alabama was ahead

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Speaker 2: of Miami for five weeks and then Miami leaped frog them.

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Speaker 2: How would Greg Sanke, the Commissioner of the SEC reacted

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Speaker 2: to something like that. So there, I thought he was right.

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Speaker 2: I understand that. But he didn't stay with that. He

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Speaker 2: he you know, he expounded upon it, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's where everybody focused on all Notre Dame cry baby,

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Speaker 2: take your ball and go home.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Dan al Had it been Alabama, I would have

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Speaker 11: been on the I'm the footsteps of the Capitol calling

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Speaker 11: for a federal investigation sinking and I would have been

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Speaker 11: crashing the back gate at the White House.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: But but and I agree.

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Speaker 11: I was on first take down the down the dial

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Speaker 11: when when the story broke about your interview, and I like,

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Speaker 11: oh my goodness, I mean this sounded like a major break.

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Speaker 11: But two days later found in fury signifying nothing, here

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Speaker 11: we are.

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Speaker 5: But that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 11: It's been the story of the weekend and Notre Dame

723
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Speaker 11: got this, you know, continued to be in the news.

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Speaker 11: And by the way, it's about it's about the most

725
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Speaker 11: relevancy has had at least since last year's National Championship game.

726
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Speaker 11: They've taken the attention off Marcus Freeman. Maybe looking around at.

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Speaker 2: The NFL, Well, you know who was happy about this

728
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Speaker 2: is Lane Kiffin. Oh yeah, if the spotlight shifted off

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Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin, He's like, coach is clear?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, maybe not though I think we both know Lane

731
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Speaker 11: well enough to go that he sicks up every morning

732
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Speaker 11: and if his Twitter mentioned starts to go down, he's upset.

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Speaker 2: He's letting his coaches coach for old Like I'm trying

734
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Speaker 2: to understand this from old missus perspective that you don't

735
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Speaker 2: want Lane, but you'll take his coaches. Why not a

736
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Speaker 2: clean break?

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Speaker 11: It's pretty obviously just did not trust Lane and.

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Speaker 8: Dan.

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Speaker 11: I don't want to get in trouble with Nick Satan,

740
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Speaker 11: but the president was really set in twenty sixteen. Everybody

741
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 11: knows what happened, and Kiffin was on the Alabama staff.

742
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Speaker 11: He got hired by Florida Atlantic and he remained, but

743
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Speaker 11: he was he.

744
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Speaker 2: Did such a poor job.

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Speaker 11: I had several people come up to me this weekend

746
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Speaker 11: in Atlanta and say, yeah, I was on the field

747
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Speaker 11: with Kiffin and Kiffin. I mean during a practice, not

748
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Speaker 11: after practic It's not during warm up. Kiffen's over there

749
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Speaker 11: in the corner on the phone trying to get his

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Speaker 11: coaching staff together. He was not paying attention, and Saban

751
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Speaker 11: got so fed up he fired him. But then Saban

752
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Speaker 11: was out there saying, oh, Lane should be at old

753
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Speaker 11: miss h and I think you all missed. People just

754
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Speaker 11: did not want that. They didn't believe that Kiffen could

755
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Speaker 11: be trusted with. I think the passwords to the computer

756
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Speaker 11: where all the secrets were with recruiting and everything else,

757
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Speaker 11: even though he had just been there the day before.

758
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Speaker 11: It was a mess. But it's Lane Kiffen, and you

759
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 11: always expect, you know, some theatrics.

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Speaker 2: Did old Miss ever have a chance here? No?

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Speaker 11: I don't think so. I mean Lane Kiffen is like

762
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Speaker 11: is like that girlfriend in high school you walk into

763
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Speaker 11: the party and she's looking right over your shoulder at

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Speaker 11: a quarterback. I mean, Lane never can be He's been

765
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Speaker 11: looking for years. Three years ago he almost took the

766
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Speaker 11: Auburn job, just close Two years ago he wanted the

767
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Speaker 11: Alabama job, but he never got a call. And last

768
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Speaker 11: year he was I think he was already packing to

769
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Speaker 11: go down to Florida, and Lane screwed that one enough.

770
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Speaker 11: He took his old Miss team down to Florida and lost,

771
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Speaker 11: which saved Billy Day for Your's job. But by the

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Speaker 11: time he got the mid season, he knew Florida was

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Speaker 11: going to be opened. But the real moment that occurred

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Speaker 11: was when Brian Kelly got fired. Kiffin's Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 11: I could actually have that job, which which is a

776
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Speaker 11: better job than Florida. That's a better job than all this.

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Speaker 11: That's not really You don't need me to say that.

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Speaker 11: Nick Saban told him that, because Nick Saban has told

779
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Speaker 11: a lot of people that, I mean, Nick Saban had

780
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Speaker 11: this love affair with LSU, but he couldn't he couldn't

781
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Speaker 11: stay there because he had so many NFL openings. But

782
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Speaker 11: he never quite got over it, even though he only

783
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Speaker 11: won six national championships at Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Where is Lane Kiffen In five years, he might still.

785
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Speaker 11: Be in LFU, but he's going to have to win

786
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Speaker 11: a national championship. But I would think ultimately he'll move on.

787
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Speaker 11: I don't know if Lane goes back to the NFL

788
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Speaker 11: at some point. I mean, I think now that Al

789
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 11: Davis has been dead, and varied for a number of years.

790
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Speaker 11: I think the reverberations from that are over. But I

791
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 11: think ultimately he's just never going to be happy anywhere.

792
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Speaker 11: But I think he could get a national championship at

793
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Speaker 11: L Dan. Stop me if you've heard this before, but

794
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Speaker 11: Less Miles and at Oseron both won national championships at

795
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Speaker 11: L two. The two of us could walk in off

796
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Speaker 11: the street and win a national championship down there. It's

797
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Speaker 11: not that hard.

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Speaker 2: Paul finebaumb hosts of The Paul Finebaum Show Monday through

799
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Speaker 2: Friday on SEC Network from three to seven Eastern. What

800
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: kind of changes do we have in the off season

801
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Speaker 2: with college football?

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Speaker 11: Well, guess they're going to have a meeting Dan, probably

803
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 11: at a five star resort somewhere near the near the

804
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 11: southern calum Mexican border, so it's warm in the winter,

805
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 11: and they'll retool the CFP. They'll put in a couple

806
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 11: of tweaks that don't make any sense, but that's going

807
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Speaker 11: to be the big one. They've already made most of

808
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 11: the rules. The transportal is now back to January so

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Speaker 11: the ball season doesn't get overwhelmed the ball season that

810
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Speaker 11: I think they're still looking for people to play in

811
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 11: a ball game. But ultimately this Notre Dame ACC conversation

812
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 11: is going to dominate once they start meeting again in January.

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Speaker 11: But I should have just said nothing's going to change.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to go so long. Could

815
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Speaker 2: you see Notre Dame saying, you know what, We're going

816
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Speaker 2: to go into the Big Ten with all of our

817
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Speaker 2: sports and we will play a limited schedule, partial schedule

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Speaker 2: with the Big Ten.

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Speaker 11: It could happen now they have that contract with the ACC,

820
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Speaker 11: and I'm sure some of the bluster by Pete was

821
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Speaker 11: to get out of that, and I'm sure at some

822
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Speaker 11: point the ACC is going to let them go. But yeah,

823
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Speaker 11: the SEC and the Big Ten would probably be more

824
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 11: than happy to fill in that role. But I think

825
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Speaker 11: the Big Ten's where they belong, even on a limited schedule.

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Speaker 11: It's good for TV. I'm sure Fox and all the

827
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Speaker 11: seventeen other networks that the Big Ten is on love

828
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Speaker 11: to do a five game schedule, especially with Ohio State

829
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Speaker 11: and Michigan and some of the bigger names in the

830
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Speaker 11: Big Ten because that's really all they do in the

831
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Speaker 11: in the ACC. And and they they went in and

832
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 11: tweaked it where now they're playing the better. They're not

833
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Speaker 11: just playing Wake Forest anymore. They're playing Clemson in Miami

834
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Speaker 11: and the schools that matter. You believe in Indiana, Yes,

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Speaker 11: it's taken me. I am the I mean, it's too

836
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Speaker 11: late to get on the bandwagon. I've missed that and

837
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Speaker 11: it also ran over my foot. But yes, I believe

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Speaker 11: in them.

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Speaker 2: I mean that was I did not.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I think that's pretty well known. But I mean,

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Speaker 11: I'm I'm I'm half blind, but I'm entirely blind. I

842
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Speaker 11: can see how good they are.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the great stories though in recent college football.

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Speaker 2: I mean, based off the history and you know when

845
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: we were growing up Indiana. I mean, it's losing his

846
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: programming in college football. And to do this in a

847
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: two year period any stage, and.

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Speaker 11: To think about the Saturday night in New York during

849
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Speaker 11: that just fantastic Heisman show, which I know you're you're

850
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Speaker 11: a big fan of tune in at age fifty seven

851
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Speaker 11: and you have not missed anything. By the way, the

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00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 11: fact that Indiana and Vanderbilt are two of the four

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Speaker 11: schools represented among the finalists is pretty spectacular.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, when you think about it growing

855
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Speaker 2: up Vandy was always the and such and such one

856
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Speaker 2: by over Vandy Indiana. Ohio State beats Indiana fifty five

857
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Speaker 2: to nothing, and here you have two Heisman candidates there.

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Speaker 2: Pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I mean I used to cover Alabama games when people

861
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Speaker 11: were really intent on the final series, and that was

862
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Speaker 11: whether Alabama covered the forty two points spread against Vanderbilt

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Speaker 11: or not.

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Speaker 2: Do you have anything nice to say about anybody today?

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Speaker 8: Dan?

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Speaker 11: Can I get back to you on that?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you can, Thank you, Paul. That's Paul Finbaugh, Voice

868
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Speaker 2: of the SEC Paul Finbaum Show, every Monday through Friday

869
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Speaker 2: on SEC Network three to seven Eastern Snarky. Let's see

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Speaker 2: Brooks in Florida. Hi Brooks, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 12: Hey? Dan, thanks for taking my call. I had two comments.

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Speaker 12: One on the college football playoff. I'm thinking, why don't

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Speaker 12: we let Vegas just handle the rankings and get rid

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Speaker 12: of the committee because Vegas tells you who's the better

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Speaker 12: team anyways.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, we've brought that up before. I forget

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Speaker 2: what the reason. I think it made people uncomfortable if

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Speaker 2: Vegas was running college football. But they're the most objective,

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Speaker 2: like they have the most to lose. In this scenario,

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Speaker 2: millions and millions of dollars. But thank you Brooks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've mentioned that before. Bucky in Illinois. Hi, what's on

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Speaker 2: your mind?

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Speaker 12: Hey?

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Speaker 13: He thanks for taking my call. Quick comment, and then

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Speaker 13: I got a poll question for you and the danat

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Speaker 13: quick comment about the college footwall playoff. If you're if

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Speaker 13: you're from the American or you're from the Dumbbelt Conference

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Speaker 13: and you're gonna make the college football playoff like you

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Speaker 13: automatically have to be undefeated to get in in my opinion.

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Speaker 14: But quick quick poll question for you in the Danete. Okay, see,

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Speaker 14: as a senior college football player, would you rather go

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Speaker 14: to a Division III school win the Gaglyardi Trophy and

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Speaker 14: win a national championship? Or would you rather go and

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Speaker 14: ride the bench for an Ohio State and win a

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Speaker 14: national championship that way?

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Speaker 5: M okay?

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Speaker 2: Think, so you get to be a bench player for

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Speaker 2: Ohio State win a national championship, but I don't get

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Speaker 2: a scholarship at Ohio State. Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 14: Probably not?

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Speaker 2: Probably not okay, because if I got a scholarship at

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, I'm gonna take that because then I'm I

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Speaker 2: got my school paid for you go Division three, you

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Speaker 2: got to pay for it, usually yourself. You get a

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Speaker 2: little financial aid. Yes, Marvin, but.

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Speaker 10: If you're on scholarship as an athlete at Ohio State,

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Speaker 10: you would want to play somewhere else because you were

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Speaker 10: probably all states somewhere. So you're not going to go

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Speaker 10: to Ohio State just to say the bench, just to

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Speaker 10: say I went to Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Right, depends on if you grew up in Ohio and

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Speaker 2: you want to be an Ohio State Buckeye, the just

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Speaker 2: ride the bench. I don't Yeah, maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The Division III. I love watching that. I love watching

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Speaker 2: the smaller schools play for championships and you know, you

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Speaker 2: get it's it's always fun to see those schools and

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Speaker 2: how much it means to them. And the fact North

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Speaker 2: Dakota State is out that South Dakota State, I think

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Speaker 2: is out as well, So it's wide open there in

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Speaker 2: the FBS. Yes, Marvin, no, no, no, I was shaking

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Speaker 2: my head. I was great, Oh, thank you. Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 4: Division three Final four this weekend, Dan, I know you're watching,

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Speaker 4: but it's John Carroll versus Barry Wheaton versus UW.

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Speaker 2: River Falls. That's some heavyweights. Yeah that's different.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like UW Whitewaters out, Mount Union's out fresh blood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, John Carroll used to be I think the Don

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Speaker 2: Shula went to John Carroll. I believe, I believe. But

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Speaker 2: they used to be a football powerhouse. Yes, more of it.

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Speaker 10: I did have one question, Okay, that pole question. Ohio

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Speaker 10: State or D three. That's a big jump. Maybe Ohio

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Speaker 10: State one double A or something like that. But you

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Speaker 10: can't you sit the bench at Ohio State or you

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Speaker 10: play D three.

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Speaker 2: So would you rather go to North Dakota State and

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Speaker 2: play for them and win a national championship or be

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Speaker 2: a bench player at Ohio State and they won a

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Speaker 2: national championship?

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Speaker 5: Play at North Dakota State.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather play at North Dakota State. I mean that's

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Speaker 2: a high level. Yes, Todd, would you play.

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Speaker 5: For Wheaton if you can't tolerate gluten?

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Speaker 2: Thank you Todd? Yes, Paul, I don't know I should

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Speaker 2: let the Yeah you should, I should. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 2: distance myself. Yeah, how about we take a break, last

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Speaker 2: call for fall. I didn't know Todd was here today. Okay,

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Speaker 2: if I say something, no insituation, Hey, but their pants

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Speaker 2: shame way we do all right, huh the look on

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Speaker 2: Lou Holtz's face when I did my Lou Holtz impersonation

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Speaker 2: to him. That did not go well as it shouldn't have.

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Speaker 2: What my it's my impersonation? Pretty good, oh Dan.

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Speaker 4: The more real it is, the worse it is.

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Speaker 2: Oh correct. So I'm asking, was it a good impersonation? Yeah? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: I think that's all I cared about.

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Speaker 1: S try but their pants on?

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Speaker 2: Same way?

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Speaker 5: Wait, he was bothered by the jac he did.

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Speaker 2: He said, First of all, Church, I don't say that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that word. Never take the Lord's leaving Jane.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But aside from that, how did it sound? Hey,

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Speaker 2: but their pants shame way we do