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Speaker 1: All right, let's just address the seven hundred pound grill.

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Speaker 2: In the room, right, I mean, we all know Davis's intense,

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Speaker 2: and you know on game day that's just that's him,

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Speaker 2: you know. So it's it's not a big deal. It's

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Speaker 2: it's happened before, you know. It's just it's just part

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Speaker 2: of the game. So he's an intense guy. We have

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Speaker 2: no issues, and you know that's just part of football.

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Speaker 2: It's an intense game, it ain't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how about the four hunder pound girl on the field.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, and this is the process of the preseason.

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Speaker 2: Like this happens in every game around the league. This

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Speaker 2: is not new. This is something that just happens when

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Speaker 2: you have guys, say, for example, a guy that was

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Speaker 2: a starting running back in college. All right, and he's

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Speaker 2: used to on every down he's running the football, he's running,

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Speaker 2: he's catching, he's running football. And then on third down

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Speaker 2: or fourth down, he comes off the field. He's not

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Speaker 2: on the punting So a lot of times when these kids,

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Speaker 2: these young guys, when they get into these competitive environments, muscle.

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Speaker 1: Memory kicks in.

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Speaker 2: So he's used to on third down if they don't

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Speaker 2: make the first down, what does he do he used

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Speaker 2: to going to the bench.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's not like that anymore.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're on the punt team now, now you got

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Speaker 2: to get out there and go cover punt, protect it.

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Speaker 2: So I mean that that's just part of the maturation

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Speaker 2: process of all these young guys. They have to understand

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Speaker 2: that they're not in college anymore. They're not starters. A

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Speaker 2: lot of them aren't starters anymore. So when there's a

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Speaker 2: fourth down play, you don't run off the field.

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Speaker 1: You stay on the field. And that's just the reality.

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Speaker 4: Was that X who came running on the field, No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the gray return a nice return, was there.

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Speaker 3: Did you when you went back and look at the film,

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Speaker 3: did you see a penalty?

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, okay it was and it

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Speaker 2: was probably twenty yards away from the ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't necessary. And and again another young

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Speaker 1: guy who's used to.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you go back and you look at

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Speaker 2: college football, they don't call hold it return. It's a

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Speaker 2: free fraud. I've never seen anything like in my life.

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Speaker 2: But they're used to playing.

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Speaker 1: That way, so they think it's normal, you know.

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Speaker 2: So, but when you get to this level, even though

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Speaker 2: the ground. Like any time in our league, on any returns,

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Speaker 2: you take a guy to the ground to throw in

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Speaker 2: the flags. But college football is not like that, you know.

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Speaker 2: So again, that's just part of the mat ration process.

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Speaker 2: These guys learning how the game is played on this level,

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Speaker 2: and it's a little bit different approach.

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Speaker 5: You like, either after the game or on the bus

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Speaker 5: ride home about that, because obviously it was seen on

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Speaker 5: TV as far as on the sideline, So like, was

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Speaker 5: it something you guys talked about or no, No.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's it's football. I mean, it's just you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, did it happen? I mean, it's just it's

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Speaker 2: what it is. I mean, it's an intense game. It's

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Speaker 2: it's not that big of a deal. We all, you know,

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Speaker 2: I promise you if you look at my face sometimes

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Speaker 2: crazy stuff too, you know.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, it's just it's just what it is.

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Speaker 2: You'll see some stairs and glares, and because that's just

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Speaker 2: the game, you know, it's tender.

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Speaker 4: Jamie hit that point sixty seven yard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now, in golf, when you hit a lag point, you're

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Speaker 4: hitting trying to hit a target area like three feet

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Speaker 4: from the hole whatever that is. Is there a target

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Speaker 2: So that's a great question. So mainly we want to

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Speaker 2: hang to match the distance. Okay, what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: So if we have a forty eight yard punt, we

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Speaker 2: So what happens is when a hang to distance doesn't match,

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So because you get you let the guy get a

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Speaker 2: it's tough, right, So we always want to hang the

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Speaker 6: Is that compounded by guys who are probably on the

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Speaker 6: put coverage team for the first time at this level

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Speaker 6: and the idea that you know, now, all of a

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Speaker 1: And is that what you saw from that return? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and you can't miss tackles, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: You look at you know, Maurice Alexander's a pretty good

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Speaker 2: little returner obviously. I mean you saw the actual talent

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Speaker 2: compounded by the distance.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: If it's a little closer and the guy didn't have

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Speaker 2: time to build up the speed, then it's a little easier.

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Speaker 2: But when he gets a chance to build up that

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Speaker 3: Jamison Crowder could still be effective for through but he

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Speaker 3: returned a lot last year in the short amount of time.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I think Jamison is very capable.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think we have about three or four

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Speaker 2: you look at all of them, uh, you know, most

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Speaker 2: of them have all done it in this league.

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Speaker 1: You know, Pimp's a young guy that has an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Jaydaon has done it in this league for a long time,

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Speaker 2: uh Jamison, you know, cold So's. We got a bunch

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Speaker 2: we want to see what Eric can be. Right now,

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Speaker 2: he's done a pretty good job and he's very diligent.

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Speaker 2: You know, he did a good job of feeling the ball.

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Speaker 2: He's a typical young returner. They have to understand, uh,

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Speaker 2: he's running, you know, latterly he probably should have just

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Speaker 5: How much do you.

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Speaker 4: Rely on veterans who have special teams experience to kind

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Speaker 4: of lead some of the younger players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question, Kim. I mean it's.

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Speaker 2: You have to have that veteran leadership in your room.

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Speaker 2: It is paramount to our success as a unit as

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Speaker 2: a group. Because I can't answer all the questions, you know,

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Speaker 2: Pops can't answer all the questions.

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Speaker 1: Steve can answer all the questions.

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Speaker 2: But if you have a veteran guy that's done it

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Speaker 2: before and they're sitting in the locker room, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of times the young guys don't want to ask

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Speaker 4: You mentioned, can he be a returner in this league?

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Speaker 4: And how hard is it for a kid like that

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Speaker 1: The way the rules are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's tough, it really is. It's tough, but

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Speaker 2: you know most of the guys that make it in

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Speaker 2: Pimp has he has the ability.

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Speaker 1: Uh, he's a tough little player. He's very diligent what

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Speaker 1: he does. He has really good short, airy quick because

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Speaker 2: He just needs an opportunity and i'll you know, hopefully

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Speaker 2: he'll get that in the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: The way you can show everybody, way you can do

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Speaker 5: How much does that make you want to, you know,

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Speaker 5: give him most of the reps going forward here this

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Speaker 1: Is that sort of where yeah, I mean, you gotta

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Speaker 2: And it's not an unfortunate part is there's not a

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Speaker 2: if you get into a game to where you don't

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Speaker 2: It's tough, you know. So, uh, we're gonna ramp him

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Speaker 2: You know what we did and Detroit was important. Uh

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Speaker 2: as far as like the practices are concerned. So you know,

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Speaker 2: those things have to take care of themselves. But you're right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's something that.

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Speaker 1: We all gotta.

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Speaker 2: Work work to ensure that we understand what we're getting

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Speaker 2: and those guys get their opportunites at the same time.

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Speaker 3: With the shape that Graham is in and the way

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Speaker 3: he kicks the ball, can he kick as long as

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Speaker 3: he wants?

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Speaker 1: You know, I was just talking about this with with Steven.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we try our best.

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Speaker 2: You know, Graham does a great job of managing himself,

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Speaker 2: like he understands his end game and his off season.

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Speaker 2: His off season work is extremely important to his end

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Speaker 2: season work. What I mean by that is he takes

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Speaker 2: doesn't do a ton of kicking. Uh, he'll take some

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Speaker 2: time off to be with his kids, and he'll start

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Speaker 2: to ramp it up around April May. He doesn't do

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Speaker 2: a ton of kicking in the off season, but once

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Speaker 2: a phenomenal job of keeping himself in shape as far

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Speaker 2: as just you know, the prehab stuff, the rolling out

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, he'll he can kick as

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Speaker 2: Long as he wants, as long as, you know, as

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Speaker 2: long as he keeps making him he'll be help to

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