WEBVTT - Gary Clark on Super Bowl Teams, Combine Risers & Heisman Debate | Get Loud | Washington Commanders 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.360 Coming up on to Get Loud podcast. We have quarterback face. 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:10.760 Yes, we have Super Bowl champion Gary bah. 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:12.520 My god, you gotta stick around for that interview. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:14.680 And what else do we have? Dirty old man alert, 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:15.640 Dirty old man alert. 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:21.640 I ain't doing guys, it has to Get Loud podcast 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:24.079 for is anybody seek geek the official taking partner of 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:25.360 the Washington Commanders. 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.520 That's smooth. I'm jinx fresh fresh off of vacation. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.600 Looked hand up, face hand and creepy. 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:37.159 Yeah, it's one of those come getting But you say 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:38.400 your girl wanted you to throw them. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:42.520 My girl said, please grow mustache, keep the stubble, let 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:44.760 your big or let your hair kind of go crazy. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.720 Just keep this look for a while because I really 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:47.000 like it. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.960 What about the mustache does she like? Because the mustache 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.440 is ran his turn the mustache? I agree, Like, I 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.480 think it's creepy to like, see a dude now and 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.480 he just got a mustage, just a mustache, step stash. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:02.920 Where did they forcome creepy? Did it happen it like 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.840 the late two thousands or something, but just the mustang. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.880 But no, if you're over fifty, you can't rock just 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.319 the mustache, right, I just said fifty. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:14.399 I can do it. Now. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.280 Do I look creepy? Do you want your kids around me? 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:17.440 No? 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.800 No, Everybody staying away from the guy with the mustache. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.200 But the girl likes it, Hey, listen, And if she 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.000 likes it, I love it. That's the way it has 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.080 to be. The rumor is I don't remember this, but 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.360 the rumor is that you used to have a mustache, 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.960 weasel at the time. You know what, when I first 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.960 came out of college, because I always had the baby face. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.000 And when you're young, you try to look older, and 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.240 when you're older, you're trying to look young. So with 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.720 that time, I was like, I need facial hair, but 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.160 I couldn't grow a beard. Yeah, at the time, it 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.280 was more like Paul Pierce in the Playoffs, you know, 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.080 it was very spoty. I couldn't do it. So I 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.040 just grew the mustache. And then one day I was 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.280 looking in the mirror and I was ashamed of myself. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.280 Have you ever looked in the mimble visually? I'm the 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.080 same say what am I doing? 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:02.360 Like? 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:06.360 What are you doing with this mustache? So then I 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.560 just cut it off and then I started going military style, 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:13.959 just clean face, yep. And that seemed to be good 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:18.840 for me. But every wintertime I grew a beard, okay 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:23.000 for my mom. You know, no shave, November cancer. You know, 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.200 I grow my beard, but then I cut it right 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.919 back off so the sun show his face. Can be 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.440 I can grow a full beard, Yes I can. Oh, 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.840 yes I can. That's when I turned to my alter ego, 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:39.919 Smoothers Smooth's album. See you don't want to see Smoogers. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.560 I'm different than listen. I'm different with that beard. Now 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.840 you know what I can say this about a beard? Okay, 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.440 it go with a soup. Oh and bener and style too. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.560 When did it happen? When did women just say, you 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:59.200 know what lumberjacks we want all down? And men? I 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.280 did the men say you know what beards are? Back end? 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.080 Because I don't know when it happened. I just remember 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.639 it flipping, and I remember I wasn't cool anymore because 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:07.840 I don't rock a beard right. And then now I'm 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.600 in the elevator going to like the tenth floor. Some 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:15.280 dude gets on the elevator, freshly groomed beard, lined up 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:21.119 to the tea, smelling like a god. And now I'm 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.080 taking guessing myself in my bed of them. So at 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.720 the end of the day, hair for some men, so 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.960 some men not. I would like to get a poll 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.240 on how women really feel about beards. Do they love them, 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:34.680 do they like them? They just okay? 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.480 Well, if you're a lady in the comments, but in 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.080 the comments beers beard or no? Yes, I already know 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.520 which think about mustache? Yes, be like Jinks no go yeah, 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.160 but I gotta keep the lady happen. Yeah, I understand 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:48.920 beard or no. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:49.440 One. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:54.240 Thing that you are good at is evaluating talent. When 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.320 I was on vacation, this was in the comments. This 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.440 is from Contour thirty nine twenty Is it's just me? 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:05.520 Or is Fred Smooth actually a better player evaluator than Logan? 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.680 And someone else responded and I've been singing for months 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:12.400 now Fred is way better evaluating players. 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.920 Thank you fans for telling the truth. Now Logan is 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:16.719 very good, but this is your chance, but he're gonna 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.400 think about it. You don't go to a restaurant because 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.920 it's very good. You go to great restaurants, right, and 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.480 mine is a great restaurant, five stars, five stars. Where 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.520 you talk about talent evaluation. At the end of the day, 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.360 when I look for a football player, it's more than 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.000 the forty is more than the bench press. Do you 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.520 love the game of football? And then if I can 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.839 find two or three things that I feel like that'll 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.640 translate to the pros from college. If you got three 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.839 out of the five, I think you got a good chance. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.600 Now it's all about what system do you get into 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.120 right now? After that? Like as high as I was 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.400 on Deebo Samuels when he came out, I knew he 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.159 needed to be in the right system because if he didn't, 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:59.040 they was gonna use him wrong. So I myself breaking 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:03.120 down these guys. The combine was they blew it away 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.039 this weekend, Yes, Like the combine was crazy. So watching 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.960 these guys under that type of stress show up and 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.360 do what they did, the DB's ran up out of there. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:15.640 Right I'm talking about four three, four fours. Everywhere the 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.840 athletes are doing what everything else on earth does. They 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:24.720 are evolving and that's a scary thing. They are getting bigger, stronger, faster. 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.880 So now it's all about who could play within these 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:32.279 white lines, within these four quarters. Who has the nerves 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.920 to come down and understand it's still football. So it's 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.400 a mental part of that too, so it can't all 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.040 be about visual. I think you also had to try 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.280 to break the player down mentally and see what do 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:44.520 we loved the game of football? 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.960 You said something that I always think is interesting, which 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:51.240 is does this guy love the sport? Because there are 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.040 a lot of players out there that good that that's 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.720 good that they're like, I'm great at football, but I 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:57.080 don't know if I love it. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.760 Yeah. Yes, And you know players that love it because 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.000 contracts don't matter to them. Like you see some players 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:07.240 get a contract and they play go down. That mean 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.839 they don't love the game. Right. They're good at the game, 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.600 they got paid for the game, but they don't love it. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.839 Like I was always told this, if you love something 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.640 and you love put love in it, it'll love you back. Yeah. Well, 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.520 this game of football has loved me because I have 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.480 put love into it. So I could always tell in 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.840 the locker room which player loves it. Like I used 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:30.720 to love practicing me coach Gibb just talking about it, 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.719 I'll tell you, like what, most players don't love practice? 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.560 Why do It's another day of playing football. I love 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.880 the locker room, I love my teammates, I love just 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:44.080 doing it. Like people don't understand this is a children's game. 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.119 We're getting paid as grown men to play a game. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.920 I play a children's game. I better enjoy it with 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.719 a childlike heart, because if you don't, it will spit 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.719 you to, you up and spit you out, no doubt. 0:06:58.000 --> 0:06:59.960 So we're gonna get into the combine and what we say. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.240 Awesome players, maybe on the rise, baby got to it's 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:02.960 falling in yours. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.039 But what was your comedy experience? 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:06.240 Like? 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.000 First of all, I was part of that at one 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.400 percent of one percent, so I ain't have to really 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.200 do nothing that to come by. I was just walking 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.120 around with my chest out, you know what I'm saying, 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.880 daffing people up, talking to people. I did my interviews. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:18.800 I really didn't do nothing at to come by. But 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:23.520 I did the bench press one time, baby, one thrust. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:29.080 There you go, rack them, dude, I told to rack them. 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.600 Y'all is not come here for a bodybuilder. You came 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.800 here for a football player. I'm a grass athlete. Show 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.400 me the grass and I'll show you some some interceptions. 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.320 I'll show you some players watch me run. I was 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.640 never the strongest. I was one hundred and seventy five 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:48.200 pounds when I came out right five fifty pounds more 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:52.040 than so at the time, and then long ums that 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.720 don't help you in the bench press, right, So I 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.840 already knew that was gonna be my weakest thing, but 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.120 I knew how to I didn't care. Like and when 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.920 one coach told me, like, I give you more props 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.920 for getting under there, because most players wouldn't have they 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:09.800 would have find a way to say I ain't gonna 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.640 do the bench press. He was like, you knew you 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.440 was gonna do it one time. You did not care 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.040 that say, it's a lot about you. So I think 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.960 sometimes people gotta understand you're gonna be on the surface 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.000 any rate. They canna find out everything about you and 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.080 the comebine like it's the most intrusive, Like they know 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.680 everything from your blood type. We literally sit in the 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.680 hospital for the first eight hours after we land. We 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.120 literally land, we get on the bus and we go 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.240 to the hospital for eight hours. They checking everything from 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:41.320 bone man and everything you can possibly a family history 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.079 in the history in your fair like they gonna get 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.599 down to the nitty gritty and do what I say, Like, 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.880 sometimes I don't think the combine is fair in it, right, 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.319 because you just took two paints some of blood right, 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.480 and now you want me to run the forty tomorrow 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.560 and bench like, come on, inn like I think it's 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.680 it's it's high wress a ride only a few people 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:02.120 can hear me. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:03.960 And also there's an interview process. 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:05.800 They want to get to know you. And guess what 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.280 this is. How the interview looks. See these cameras out here, 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.560 the GM sitting right there, the head coach sitting right 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:16.559 there with the caramonia, Fred God, Fred Smooth? What happened 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.880 on Mississippi State campus two thousand of May the second 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.240 I went to a frat party and it was jumping. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.640 So they know these factual things about you, and they 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.600 want to see you talk about these things. They're gonna 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:36.040 ask some of the weirdest questions like this one, Fred Smooth. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.560 Yeah, what happened to that buttercake you made over the weekend? 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.600 It was drunken? Oh okay, and I lost to Zach 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.160 Selby Man. I lost the cookoff and it hurt so bad. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.679 See the thing about it, he went ooey gouie like 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.920 the ones you buy out of the store the square 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.720 on and I tried to do it my stroll style. Alright, 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.199 that was in my spring loaded pan. I tried to 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.079 make it higher. I tried to make it steakhouse quality. 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.679 I feel short in doing it. Feel short. We'll be back, 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.920 but I'll be back. Don't worry about it. Hey. The 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.000 one thing about it, I'm young, jeezy when I come 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:08.800 to that of and then they're kitchen and them possing 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:09.280 and pays. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.199 So you watched a lot of the combine. I watched 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.559 some of it as well. Who is a player or 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.599 two that you watched, and certainly what they did in 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.840 college stands out on the field, but that really stood 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.440 out to you moneymakers of the weekend. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:28.280 Okay, let's start off with one guy, JJ McCarty. Listen 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:33.200 to me, Not only does he have quarterback face. Now 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.559 you know my terms of quarterback face. Do you understand that. 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.920 You gotta explain it all right? Quarterback faces. This when 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.240 we grew up in high school and junior high school, 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:48.120 ain't the tallest, sexiest, prettiest man always the quarterback. Listen, 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.280 it just happens right like college and walk up in 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.599 you're like, you don't have to see who the quarterback is. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.959 You can put them out like it's the quarterbacks quarterback face. 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.599 So I was like, oh right, So I started to 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.599 do my investigation on quarterback face all right, and I 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.240 have a scale of one to ten. JJ McCarty comes 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.120 into the eight point five in quarterback face me. He's 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:10.319 a very attractive man. 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:10.599 Like. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.000 So, the thing about it is, I did my investigation. 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.120 I was like, well, who are the unattractive quarterbacks that 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.480 have been great in the league. So as I started 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:23.120 to go through, it was only two teams that kept 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:27.520 sticking out, that just kept coming with ugg quarterbacks. The 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.520 Pittsburgh Stealers. Oh yeah, they had been they had a 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:36.199 run for a while. Cordell Stewart, big Ben. Yeah, it 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:42.520 wasn't good, you know. So then no, I'm being honest, 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.160 no I know. So then I started saying, you know, well, 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.120 who out of you know the great quarterback. Then I 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:54.040 was like, damn Marino Joe, like these guys yeah, Patrick 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.800 mahone old boy. You know what I'm saying, Like, come on, man, 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:01.320 so quarterback, you show me a quarterback. Then I started 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.840 to drop him down my draft board. Now, like I said, 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.600 it's a selpfious to the rule, it's a selfish to everything. Sure, 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.000 but JJ McCarthy, I think by interviewing the way he 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.120 threw the ball, and he only did what he was 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.320 asked to do in college with a pro coach in college, 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.599 I think he made hisself some money this week I 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.920 wouldn't be shocked if six quarterbacks go in the first round. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.200 He grows the beard, he might get even better. 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.839 Now he billyed he with, that's gonna be too much. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:34.800 I thought Michael Pennix made hisself some money this weekend. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.520 I thought he threw the ball. Well. Everybody talking about 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.480 how the doxs is throwing motion in his left hand, 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.839 but people don't understand about it. If you're catching a 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.240 left hand ball, it's spends kund of clockwise. It's different, 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.440 different than the right hand ball. So I think people 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.120 don't look at that. So I think he made him 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:56.360 some money. Pop Chop Robinson, I was gonna say, Chop Robinson. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.079 He looked good. He looked good. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.080 He's already in All American and then he shut off 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.960 that speed and random that's what. 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.240 I'm talking about. Two hundred and forty pounds, and he 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.120 say he was named poor Chop because when he was 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:12.719 born he was fourteen pounds. God imagine carrying him congratulation. 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:14.839 You knew, hey, you knew when he was born. I 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.319 would have held him up just like this. This is 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:22.600 the Knicks. Like fourteen pounds. That's two babies and one 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.280 that's twin, Oh my god. And one baby, No, two 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:31.640 seven pound twin. That's a hefty bird. Another one that 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.280 looked good of getting off their bus. I brought up 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.520 Deebo Simmons. Okay, South Carolina game cops got another one. 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:43.679 Xavier Leget Okay, he is listen. He looked like on 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:48.320 a swar with his shirt off. Oh, then he ran 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.960 a four four forty. Then he looked fluent in all 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:55.680 his drills. Do not be shocked if he heat skyrockets. Okay, 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.360 put like this. He won't get past the Chiefs at 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.839 thirty two if he's still available, but he probably won't 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.000 be available. I got one for it. Talk to me 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:08.120 checks his boy Byron Murphy the second. Yes he did, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.920 big boy, let me tell you. And when you said Texas, 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:12.720 I thought you were gonna go for the low hand group. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:14.280 No, I'm not gonna talk about Xavier. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I'm talking about six. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.960 One three oh five, built like a bowling ball, who 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.760 runs a four to eighty seven as a defensive tackle. 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.400 Do people understand what four point eight seconds is as 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.240 a de tackle. He's three hundred pounds and I just 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:34.600 said it takes him four point eight seconds to run 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:39.640 forty yards. That's a car accident. Every time he hits 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:43.920 somebody chasing him down, that's a car accident. Made him 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.200 some money. This we assure that Roma dooms Day, Oh yep, 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:53.120 hey listen, love him. Great name, Roma dooms Day. Listen, 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:58.320 I literally be doctor doone would be my name, and 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.600 I would burn every cornerback in the lead with a 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.320 name like that. He reminds me of Jamar Chase. So 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.440 what is that telling you? It's a great baller, All 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:11.600 right baller. Everybody's talking about marm and Harrison and they should. 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:16.640 But this kid right here, if Marvin right here, this 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.880 guy is right there, it's not. It's not that far 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:25.440 like people. I understand Marma Harrison polished. This dude right 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:29.120 here is polished too. Another guy, and it's the it's 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.520 the death of Alabama. That's why I've been enjoying watching this. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.840 But this is gonna be their last good crop. I 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:39.160 enjoy watching the death of Alabama. Dallas Turner, showed up, 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.680 showed out, made his mama some money. You know when 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.080 you did it too, because see, I've been there as 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:48.520 a player like cause it ain't nothing jinx like running 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.280 the forty Right when you put your hand on that 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.080 line and you're thinking about everything you did in your career, 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.440 everything you didn't work, every everything you didn't work for 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.880 about these next four seconds, everything you ever done. So 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.440 when you do this, your mind and your mind is 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.840 I mean, finna make me some money. 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So we talked about the combine. 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:55.680 Obviously, what we see in the draft will affect teams 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:59.080 in the upcoming season. If you talk about teams who 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.159 are maybe mystery teams, if you will. Yes, teams that 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.199 have a lot to work with. The commander is one 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.200 of those teams. Yes, But teams where based on draft, 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.320 based on cap, based on the direction of which they 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.280 want to go, are intriguing to you. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:18.119 The Pittsburgh Steelers, let's start there, okay, because out of 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.159 all the bad quarterback play they had last year, they 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:26.280 almost make the playoffs. Do y'all understand? Yeah, that's say 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.159 that they trade with the Chicago Bears, get him a 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.159 second round pick for Justin Fields. Now, how do you 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:36.920 think about the Pittsburgh Steelers much differently, much differently? They like? 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.439 Then you like, yeah, they going to the playoffs most definitely? 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.720 You feel that way, all right? I will feel that 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.360 way because of the Mika Fitzpatricks on their team. Don't 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:51.000 forget they still got TJ what like George Pickens they 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.640 got they got ballers, all right. So they are team 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:55.480 that you always got to watch out for cause they 0:18:55.520 --> 0:19:00.200 Pittsburgh period. And also he'll be attrack to quarter back 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.000 on the team too. Next, I got the Green Bay Packers. Okay, 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:06.879 they did it with puppies this year. They did it 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:08.959 with youngsters this year. That's true. They're going to get 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.840 a year older and bring in another year of talent. 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.600 And we know one thing about green Bay. They know 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:19.399 how to draft and nurture talent. The green Bay Packers 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.040 are starting some special up there and nobody wants to 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:25.080 talk about it, all right, they are. And I love 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.280 Kirk Cousins. I just don't see him staying in Minnesota 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.720 being a threat to Green Bay. Are to the Detroit Lions, 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.720 I just do not fill any threat from them. Another 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.879 team that's very intriguing, and they could feel justin fields. 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:45.000 How about justin fields to the Atlanta Falcons. Oh, justin fields. 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.480 They have weapons, be Jah and Robinson, Kyle Pitts, a 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:52.120 tight end, Drake London. They wid receive an instant playoff 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:56.040 team in a week. NFC South, what do you think 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:56.920 about the Giants? 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.840 Like in the world of the Giants, they stinky, But 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:04.800 they're saying now that they're thinking about a quarterback at 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:06.560 number six or making a move for a quarter like 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.240 they signed Daniel Jones to that massive deal they have 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:10.240 at taxed sae Quon. 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.879 Yet, Yeah, is there a possibility. 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.479 That they say, you know what, let's just blow it up, 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.920 you know and just and just start to scratch. 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.640 You know what, Just like I say, quarterback face has 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.280 a lot to do with me when I'm looking at quarterbacks. Also, 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:27.320 I'm one of them people with athletes athlete names. Like 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.560 we have names, ok, like names that you don't hear 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.280 in this regular society all of the time. Yeah, like 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.480 you don't hear kool aid m cask hed. Like these 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:40.000 football sports names give us something to live up to. Now, 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:43.600 if you tell me, here'll come. Daniel Jones. 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.560 You mean fidelities like Daniel Jones. 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:52.440 Daniel Jones. I've met ninety nine Daniel Jones on my 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.640 way to work this morning. There's nothing more normal than 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:01.800 Daniel in Jones. Listen to me. You want regular play, 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.360 you want every day regular play, Go get a guy 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.520 with a regular name. Yeah, Patrick mahonalds ain't no regular name. 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:14.240 Ain't regular like too, not a regular name like Joe Mont, 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.960 John Elway. You know one of those. Yeah, I know 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.560 a thousand dann Daniel Jones is fred nice to me? 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.400 I hear you're interested in the bond market, like I don't. 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:30.119 Know, Daniel Jones. Are you doing my taxes like Daniel Jones? No, 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:34.280 they don't feel like JJ McCarthy. Here comes JJ McCarthy 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:35.320 in the New York Giants. 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.920 Now there is a possibility the Giants could make a 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:41.800 move or they stick at six where McCarthy could be. 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.080 No, he will be. It's gonna be there. He will 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:44.480 be there. 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:48.320 So the question is, take that handsomness, society, even though 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:49.359 he's like a handsome quarterback. 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:53.720 Would you take JJ McCarthy at six? Sometimes I was 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:58.040 always told by rich men, Okay, your best investments, you 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:02.400 probably overpay for them. Okay, So yes, if that's gonna 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:06.400 be your investment and you go overdraft him, I don't 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:08.200 never feel like you overdrafted if you got your person 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.080 you want, right. So at the end of the day, 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:14.160 if they feel like Daniel Jones is too regular, they 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.840 need somebody to come in there with some Yeah, they 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:20.399 could throw the ball, all right, why not? Why not? 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:25.080 Daniel Jones has shown you one thing. My best year, 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:30.280 I was still regular. M you paid me. Count that money. 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.639 I ain't never gonna stop nobody from getting no contract, right, 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.120 count that money. But if you're a Giants fan right now, 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.760 you can't tell me you wouldn't rather have Michael Pennix 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.959 JJ McCarthy and take their uh, let them take their 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.520 bumps and watch them go through their bruises. Then you 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:48.280 will watch Daniel Jones, a guy that'd been in the 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:49.600 league for five to six years. 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:52.440 How much of that is due to the Giants? I 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:56.320 mean offensively, they just don't They have Saquon. Their line 0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:57.480 is bad, They don't have. 0:22:57.520 --> 0:22:59.359 A lot of talent. So who they got he a 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.000 free agent? Well, right, they couldn't take you. 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.119 But I'm saying if you're looking at Daniel Jones in 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:06.080 the past couple years, right, like he's had Saquon there, Yeah, 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:09.280 banged up, but they don't have a lot of offensive tools. 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.119 So how much of that do you chalk up to 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.520 the Giants just being sold more bund offense? 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:15.399 Hey, we we can't do that, Jenks don't do that. 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:17.720 Don't see, I'm gonna make it. I dont think he's 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:19.440 a great quarterback. They called it making an excuse for 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.239 your kids. If your kids bad, they probably because you're 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.280 a bad parent. At the end of the day. No, 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.440 you can't make an excuse for him because I just 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:28.840 watched past the home take his team to the Super 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:31.639 Bowl and win it with a seventh round wide receive. 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.680 I mean a running back, a thirty five year old 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:40.800 tight end and nobody at wide receiver at quarterback, Are 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:44.280 you a dude or are you a force multiplier? A 0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:49.760 force multiplier makes those around him better. Yeah, Daniel Jones 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:53.880 don't make anybody better. He's not a force multiplier. He's 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:57.920 a dude. Yes, that's it. I think they want to 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:01.240 They understand you got Dak, you got Jalen Hurts, and 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:05.240 come on, Washington got the number two pick, and you 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:10.560 got Daniel Jones. So I'm asking you, no, I don't 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:11.840 believe in Daniel Jones. 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.880 I'm just curious because it's all relative, right, Like, even 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.480 behind an incredible offensive line, I don't think he's some 0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:20.400 sort of top tier quarterback. I'm saying, on a bad 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:23.800 football team. How much does that play into any sort 0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.680 of evaluation of any quarterback? Like how much better would 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.080 he be behind the great offensive line? 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.119 So much better? Or just still a dude? I think 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.920 he's still a dude. I don't think it's anything special 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.600 about Daniel Jones. Where Like if I told you to 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:39.840 close your eyes and give me the just guess a 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.240 quarterback that might have a chance to be in the 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.520 Super Bowl in the next five years. I wouldn't guess 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:48.200 that's not coming out. No, not a Daniel Jones led 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.639 Giants team, Right, you don't think that. I don't think that. 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.720 I would say Bryce Young before I say that, because 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.760 I know he did have a terrible team and he 0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:01.040 a rookie. Yes, rookie, go have an I'm fine with that. 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.920 But I like insanity doing the same thing over and 0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.800 over again, inspecting a different resort. I think that's what 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.840 the Giants are doing right now. I think it's regular. Like, like, 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.560 this is one thing in sports you really never want 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.719 to be. You never want to be in mediocrity, correct 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.159 and stuck in that. That's where they are. This is 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:21.560 where they are. Like you either want to like be 0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.159 at the top or at the bottom. At least you 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.159 got a direction you going up? Are you trying to 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:27.680 stay there? 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:28.239 Right? 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:32.040 They're right here in the middle. Yes, eight and nine, 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:34.960 that's where they are. Seven and nine. 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:37.080 Well whatever, I feel like that's how the Vikings have 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:41.119 been with Kirk Cousins for years. I mean, I'm not 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:42.879 trying to change the conversation. I'm just saying, if you're 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:45.639 talking about being stuck in mediocrity, look, Kirk is obviously 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:49.800 Kirk co Chains much better quarterback than Jones, is good 0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.159 enough to take him next level, know, which is why 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.800 for years the Vikings just kind of sitting there churning 0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:56.679 winning some regular season games. 0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:00.280 It was never a playoff threat, but never a playoff threat. 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:01.840 And just you know what, You're gonna have a fine 0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:03.960 regular season, You're gonna lose in the playoffs, and you 0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.040 know what, You're next year the very same thing. And 0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:08.439 sometimes you have to say it's time for a chance, and. 0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:10.520 You're gonna pay him. Like the one thing I can 0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.920 say about Kurt, he is one of the best accounts 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:16.680 out there with he know how to cast some checks now, 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.680 but you're not going to get past the first round 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.760 of the playoffs with Kirk Cousins. Is your quarterback? Correct? 0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:27.520 It's proven. I don't this ain't no. If I'm not 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:29.840 guessing right, this is who he is. 0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:31.840 You're not gonna become a different player coming off of 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:33.320 a killer his injury at thirty six. 0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:37.560 He's not right. But guess what, eight billion people on 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.120 this planet. We haven't found thirty two people that can 0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.280 play quarterback at the same time, do y'all understand the numbers? 0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:48.120 I just said eight billion? We can't find thirty two 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.880 people to be good at the quarterback at the same time, 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:57.080 imagine that everybody eighty nine, everybody eighty eight. Imagine just 0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:01.080 a duel. Every time you shure, what, no, we haven't 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.440 found that. We never find that. Here's something hard to 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.720 find dual sport athletes. 0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:11.600 And I am reading, yeah, that you were almost a 0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:13.320 walk on basketball player. 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.240 I was. I was always built like a basketball player. 0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.359 Don't you think I was never built like a football player? 0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.480 Right? If I get if I didn't know you like 0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:22.240 he played basketball. 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:26.000 Basketball always built and basketball helped me in football. Father 0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:27.960 is a lot, but basketball was my theme for a 0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:31.560 long time. But I also played both sports. And Randalo 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.719 was at Indiana at the time. Randaleo was dual sports. 0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.320 Randalo played quarterback for the football team, point going for 0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:40.480 the basketball team. 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:42.720 I remember playing quarterback. I got you play basket. 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.239 He played part guard. So they was like, we'll let 0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.520 both of you play if you come here. And they 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.280 was like, not only are we gonna let you play 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.080 basketball and football, We're gonna let you play cornerback. And 0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.960 why we want you to partner with ill on the offense. Oh, 0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.680 they were trying to get you man oh I left Indiana, 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.639 told my mama, I am going to Indiana. I'm about 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:09.160 to be a Hoosier. I was so Coach Cam. Coach 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.200 Cam Cameron was the coach at the time he came 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:15.320 to the Pro three years later. I was going to 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.560 be a part of that team. And it had a 0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:19.720 lot to do with the duo, all the stuff that 0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:21.399 they was gonna let me do. And I know you 0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.840 shocked that I had the grace to get into Indiana. 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:24.159 I know. 0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:32.760 I see Anna behind that, like, yes, I was dead intelligence, 0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.800 Yes it was there. But speaking of duel guys, it's 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.520 been a lot of guys that I think people forget about. 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:44.760 That was two sports stars. That's right. Julius Peppers played 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:48.240 North Carolina hoops. You know how good. 0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:52.040 You gotta be the good player, a good player. 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.840 Then you got a guy like Tony Gonzalez who actually hooped, 0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.840 like did both of them extensively, and he was the star, 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.240 owned the basketball. He was the man. 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.320 That's one of the reasons why he got drafted. So 0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:05.880 how they said, have you seen this kid on a 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:06.440 court court? 0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:10.240 Yes, So people forget about Tony Gonzalez. Bo Jackson gotta 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:14.760 throw him out. Bo nos Like the thing about bow is, 0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.760 do you think with no injury, is he the biggest 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:22.120 what if in NFL history? If he if he don't 0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.720 get hurt, is he the all time? Leaning Russia? Not 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.560 Barry saying, I mean not Immage Smith, because I think so. 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.760 Watching him play you see more of his baseball hellots 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:37.520 and footballs. But man, he was just a force. Yes, 0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:41.120 I've never seen anything. I've never seen a combination after that. 0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:45.720 Ever, you got Charlie Ward, the Heisman Trophy winner that 0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.200 not only wins the Heisman, gets drafted in the NBA, 0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.480 never plays football in the pros. All right, Then you 0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.680 got everybody forget about bj Brian Jordan. That's a good call. 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.840 Brian Jordan played cornerback with Prime and then they would 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:05.560 and go play last they did. Everybody forget about Brian Jordan. 0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:10.280 Terrell oins. People don't understand that Chattanooga he hooped, he 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.960 would go like he played both sports at Chattanooga. People 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:15.640 don't forget that about t O. Now I know that 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:20.880 Jason's campbell my quarterback. That's my quarterback. People don't understand 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:22.760 Jason got drafted out of high school as a picture. 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.960 Did it really got off of the scholarship football and 0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:29.520 basketball to Auburn. Yes he was a three sport guy. 0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:36.600 I did not know that, but now you do. Now 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.360 you do. To get loud podcasts brought to you by 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.240 Bet three six five Official Sports, being partner of the 0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.400 Washington Commanders. 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But 0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.600 we here right now with the Super Bowl Champ, the 0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.160 one and only. Gary. Thank you for coming to the show, 0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:01.560 my brother. 0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:03.440 Thank you guys for having me. I really appreciate it. 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:05.720 You know what was funny is that you sat down 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:09.440 about thirty seconds and Smooth was already talking about matchups. 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:16.320 Immediately competitive like we like to talk to traans to 0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.480 each other. So we brought up a scenario one day, 0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:20.719 I think we was in the lunch room. Dad here 0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.520 was here, and we said, what would have happened with 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:28.960 the matchup with me Champ Bailey and dere Green okay 0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:35.760 versus Ricky Sanders, Gary Clark, Art Monk. All right, Now, 0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:37.280 I didn't say who their quarterback was. 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:39.880 They had it wouldn't matter. 0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:42.760 How you think that matchup? 0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:46.400 Go, now, we were multi them super Bowls with different quarterbacks. 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:47.520 It's all good, man. 0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:49.760 So what do you think we got a chance with 0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:51.640 y'all to know, you just give us some problems. 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:53.800 I mean, y'all would have got us prepared for the 0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:54.360 super Bowl. 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.200 Yes, we ain't going to the super Bowl with y'all. 0:32:58.000 --> 0:32:59.080 Y'all got us prepared. 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:01.840 You would have helped us on the practice squad. 0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.960 But no, seriously, though, I mean, you guys men and 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.080 man skills were off the charts. You know, I got 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:09.840 a chance to watch you guys play. They get a 0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:11.239 chance to play against your of course, but I got 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:12.840 a chance to watch you guys played and just to 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:16.520 see how you guys would handle the different receivers and 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.480 quite talented receivers that came after we had left the game. 0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:23.120 And no, you guys are excellent, excellent cornerbacks. I mean 0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.600 one percent. You guys could definitely talk trash and back 0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.680 it up the majority of the time. I mean a posse, 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:35.400 that's the whole that that's kind of picking your poison. 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.480 Everybody list all three defensive backs would have to be 0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.160 on point that game. Yeah, you know, because typically that's 0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.440 every now and then, you know, like it's not like 0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.040 we always had great games every game that we played, 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.160 but there was gonna be one or two of us 0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.280 that it was always going to come out and shine 0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:57.640 because you know, they weren't getting doubled that day, you know, 0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:00.600 So if you didn't double with me, I took it 0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:04.200 as I took it as an insult, as you should. 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:06.800 I mean, I took it as an insult, and and 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.120 it just made it worse for that team, quite honestly, 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:14.080 because you know, especially if you're doubling with a safety, 0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.960 if you're double them with two good cornerbacks, that's different. 0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.200 Like like say like your your main cornerback and then 0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.560 you're a fifth man coming in. You know, that's different. 0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.960 But you try to double with a corner and a safety, yeah, 0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:28.160 I say safe safety. Safety. Safety is not used to covering. 0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:28.719 They don't cover. 0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:30.799 Yeah, you know, they're not no. One on one type 0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:32.800 of thing. They're always back there. They got that cushion 0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.480 between them. So if I ever get head up with 0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.400 you and your safety, yeah, the game's over. It's different. 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.480 If you're a cornerback, you know how to treat they 0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:41.160 they're know how to retreat. They know how to cheat. 0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:42.560 They know how to hold, they're notw to do just 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:43.800 like and we know how to push off. We know 0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.000 how to do all those sames safeties. They're never in 0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:47.240 that situation typically. 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.359 Yeah, let me ask you this to one of your 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:53.080 teams got voted the most complete team of all time? 0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:55.120 All right. I don't know if you. 0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:57.240 Saw the probably did not even super Bowl. 0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.040 And I was about to ask you about that. I 0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.640 teams you played on. You played on some damn good teams. 0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:04.800 Which one was the most complete? 0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:05.759 To you? Now? I know what. 0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:09.680 I know what the magazine and ESPN voted on. Which 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.520 one was the most complete team? Where you you felt 0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.960 like every time, y'all when the first quarter, baill run y'all, 0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:17.480 you're like, this is already over. 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.120 I'd probably have to say the ninety one I probably 0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:24.920 have to say the ninety one team, just because we 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.759 started off so strong. You know, we could spot you 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:29.799 a lead and then just come and take it away, 0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.040 you know, like we And the biggest reason I felt 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.080 that way is no matter even the games that we 0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.680 lost lay honest, which really was only Dallas. He thought 0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.160 we lost against Philadelphia too, but Joe pulled out. He 0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:42.960 had pulled off the starters out of the game because 0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:47.320 of the playoff situation. But we never thought we was 0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.279 out of a game. And that's I mean, that's I 0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.040 don't care if it could have been forty to nothing 0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:55.040 in the fourth quarter, yeah, but eight minutes left, we 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:56.960 still would think we'd win the football game. And it's 0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.880 just our mindset was that way. And when you got 0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:04.279 defenses who was just shutting everybody down, and then you 0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.840 got an offense that can store thirty points in a 0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:11.240 quarter if they need to, Yeah, that's the hard combination 0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.880 to beat right there. And we just for some reason 0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.000 that year, everything was all cylinders. We didn't have injuries, 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.759 everybody was healthy. You know, we went into it. I mean, 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:24.440 quite honestly, we should have went undefeated that season. I'm 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:27.480 so mad that we didn't go undefeated because everybody wants 0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:32.240 the perfect record. Everybody's chasing the Dolphins, everybody the Patriots 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.440 the most important game. But uh but yeah, I mean 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:38.799 we thought it was going to have it that way, 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:45.320 and we probably was a little cocky. Probably. Yeah, the lost. Honestly, 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:49.560 the lost might have been looking could have been good 0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.600 because it brought us back to reality. We were we 0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:58.000 were like, I mean, we're always ready. Always were kind 0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.200 of a little bit cocky as a team, you know. 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.120 I mean I remember in my first Super Bowl with 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:05.880 the Hogs. I mean they're telling the Broncos what plays 0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.520 we're going to run. You know, they're so confident, man, 0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:10.440 they may letting them know what it is. And so 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.000 initially I was like, God, so crazy what you're doing. 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:15.640 That's one of my third year in the league, right, yeah, 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.759 I'm like, don't be quiet, you know. But about about 0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.080 four fifth year and I'm saying, I'm telling Dv's what 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.160 I'm going to do, you know, because TeV don't know 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:28.279 if I'm telling the truth lying. Yeah, But then what 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.640 you know is that when you do do it, and 0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:32.960 then they see that you did do what you said, 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:34.440 you was a good mess with their psyche. The next 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.239 time you play Oh yeah, so the next time you 0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:38.759 play them, I'm going to lie to you at that time. Yeah, 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:40.359 you know, I'm going to lie to you and tell 0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:42.919 run some time around. I'm telling run a posma around corner. 0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.520 The way the game has changed now where it's such 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:49.080 a pass happy league, the quarterback is so predicted and 0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:52.040 we see offenses just explode. You look back and say, man, 0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.640 if I was playing today, my numbers mid your numbers 0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:58.120 were already incredible back then. In today's game, I feel 0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:00.520 like they'd be even bigger than they work. 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.680 The field is open, yes it was. It was closed 0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.480 when he played because they were knocking pep out. 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.200 Yeah, you're getting headaches, you know. And they bought me 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:09.919 in to be the guy to go across the middle 0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.040 of the field. So my initial my first fight, that's 0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:15.080 what me. I'm taking that fifteen yard square ending that slant. 0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.800 I was getting headaches every week because I was getting 0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:19.880 the crap knocked out there to do it. But you know, 0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:21.919 that was like my little niche that I was able 0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:23.960 to do and be able to turn into other things. 0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:27.279 But if I was playing in today's game, But the 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.240 amount of times that they throw the rock, yeah, tig. 0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:35.920 I mean, like Terry's finally breaking some of my records now, 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:40.279 but those records are all thirty years old. Yeah, I mean, so, 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.080 I mean if I was playing now, where I'm going 0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.000 to catch a hundred balls a year? Yeah, more than 0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.959 one hundred balls a year, come on now. Yeah, Okay, 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:48.560 we came in. We came in the league when it 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.440 was a when I first came into the league, fifty 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.840 catches was the thing, Like, you got fifty catches, she 0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.120 was considered a good receiver. Yeah, you know, and then 0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:03.480 you know Shouston in Buffalo. Yeah, and then we turned 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.040 from like a run first team because Joe has always 0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.239 been a run first, throw second team. We ended up 0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.080 turning it. But he's also looks at his personnel. That's 0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:12.680 what I loved about Joe, Like he looks at his 0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:17.440 personnel and did it slowly. After the eighty seventh when 0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.520 we got to about around eighty nineteen eighty nine, it 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:23.239 was throw pass set up to run. Our running backs 0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.560 still got a thousand yar yes, yeah, but because they 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.760 thought we was going to throw the ball three downs 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.560 out of the four downs, you know, so it started. 0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.520 You know, we had we had a Joe was just 0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:33.759 brilliant and how he mastered that offense. I mean, this 0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:37.080 was unbelievable what we could do with it. And he 0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.760 also allowed us to we want to make a change 0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:46.040 in the game. Better work, Yeah, that'll work. But it worked. 0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.600 But yeah, I brought up to the quarterback. We never 0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.799 brought it up to Joe. We brought it up during 0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.439 the game to the quarterbacks, and then the quarterbacks would 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.000 have to agree to it, of course, But you know, 0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:59.560 it's like anything else. We're the players, like for example, 0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:01.600 you're the def it's a back then you know if 0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:03.360 they call a zone, but you know that you can 0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:05.680 shut me down, you're gonna go and shut me down, 0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:11.440 just going to I mean so, but you need a 0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:13.560 coach that allows you to do those things and don't 0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:16.440 and then you're not gonna be right every time, you know. 0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:18.359 But he doesn't hold that against you, and he still 0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:19.920 allows you to go out there and play your game. 0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.000 And that's what I loved about Joe. He allowed you know, 0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.520 he probably hated me. He told me, I hate you 0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:29.320 Monday through Saturday. I love you on Sundays, you know so, 0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.800 But he's just he was just a magical coach. And 0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.200 you find coaches like that. Eventually you win Super Bowl. 0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:39.800 Here, I played in FedEx Field. You watched a million 0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:44.759 games field, but you played it rifk Uh. I'm sure 0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:48.160 it's a stark difference in them. Could you paint a picture. 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:52.880 Could you take me on a Sunday afternoon and and 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.160 just described to me how it feels, maybe even from 0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:59.560 the drive in, like take me to r f K 0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:01.600 and it made it so special. 0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:06.640 We truly had a twelve man It was unbelievable. I mean, 0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:11.120 you come into the stadium and for the most part, 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:15.600 there is no other color jersey in your stadium. Like 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:19.360 for example, when we need the crowd the defense, I mean, 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.799 the offense has a ball on the other team, our 0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.160 crowd is loud. And when our offense has a team 0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:28.120 sold yeah, we get stuff into it. I mean it 0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:32.560 was unbelievable. And I mean the fans, I mean we 0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:36.239 had like something like an eighty thousand waiting list. We're 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:38.279 sold out. We're sold out. It was still sold out 0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:43.000 before I got there. Yeah, you know. And and again. 0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:45.800 But when Joe came back to FedEx Field and Fedxfield 0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:50.480 got a common dominant denomination of that is Joe Gibbs, 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:54.319 and he he knows how to get his the most 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:55.920 out of his player. It was a different type of 0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.200 player when he came back the second time around, it 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.000 wasn't quite the same type of player. He didn't have 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:03.719 same same type of control. Like practices were like a 0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:07.520 little different, you know, Like and because you know, we hit, 0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:11.120 we hit every day. We even you know, we put 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.480 on shorts on Friday shorts and shoulder paths. But anytime 0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:15.080 you had shower pads on, we were going to hit. 0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:16.360 We hit, you know. 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:20.279 So now like practices now, I can kind of see 0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:25.160 why defensive players tend to miss more tackles now because 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:28.879 they don't actually hit in practice anymore. And that's it's 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:30.960 kind of hard if you don't practice your craft to 0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:34.560 become great at it again. You know, I mean if 0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:36.760 I was being a coach would be a little different. 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.560 I know, coach. As a coach, we can't tell you 0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:41.839 to do that. Well, what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna 0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:46.560 cut practice short by hour and a half, and I'm 0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.040 going to have my captains on the team, like Fressmoma, 0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:52.960 y'all got during Yeah, y'all go out during practice. Then 0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:55.040 they can do it. They won't do our own time. 0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.080 So go out there and get it done, because at 0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:02.040 the end of the day, the team seem to go 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.960 the extra mile. Are the teams that win in this 0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.600 mark And I'm cuaranteeing the teams that we see that 0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:11.120 are winning super Bowls, they're doing something that's a little different. 0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:14.800 That's not by the roles. If you ain't cheating you 0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:15.279 ain't trying. 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:19.399 You ain't trying, ain't we from the nineties, you learn 0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:21.359 a lot to a legend. That's a legend right. 0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.239 Now, that's been true. I mean think about it, like 0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:27.560 every play, somebody's cheating what it is, somebody's holding, somebody's 0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.160 pushing on just what it is? Like I mean, because 0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:32.440 he is such a good defensive back, there's gonna be 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:34.080 a lot of times that he guess is right what 0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.239 I'm doing, and he's right on me, So I'm gonna 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.239 have to push him over open. There's times where he 0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:41.040 doesn't figure out what I'm doing. He's have to grab 0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:42.719 my hand and hold me. But it's not gonna look 0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:45.480 like a whole The key is mastering your craft. And 0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:47.520 a lot of people they don't master their craft anymore. 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:51.040 They don't take the time to dig in to practice 0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:55.080 over and over and over again. So this this is 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:55.680 a push off. 0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:56.120 You see that. 0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.440 You do not see that, You do not see this 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:01.799 push off? Right, But takes time to master that because 0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:03.320 the're not you're gonna do that in the game and 0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:04.800 to see that. 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:07.880 But see now I had got to the point I 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.160 know you can't run without your own I used to 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.359 grab but I used to swing with him, so I'm 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.960 not swinging against him. To you, it looks like nothing. 0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:20.800 But then yes, but now if I grab it and 0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:24.520 don't run with him, it's gonna look like I'm holding. 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.080 So this trick set of trade to get things done. 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.520 I mean, that's exactly what it is. And that's that's 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:32.520 the game of football, and that's what you love about it, 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:33.520 you know you love that. 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:34.200 I have to. 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.160 I would have to sit down and really try to 0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.840 analyze how he played as a defensive back. You know 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.520 I did that later end of my career. I should 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:45.600 have did it, and the very started my career. My career, 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.960 early part of my career was just so freaking Cocky's ridiculous. 0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:53.279 It's not fair. It's not fair. I didn't watch film. 0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:58.520 I didn't rewatch film probably until my seventh eighth year 0:44:58.520 --> 0:44:58.959 in the league. 0:44:59.160 --> 0:44:59.640 Is that right? 0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:05.600 Be fair? I mean, but for me, if I had 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:07.040 to give myself at age, you know how you gotta 0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:09.520 give yourself an I'd be like I got the girl 0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.279 away to play with a chip on my shoulder. Now 0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:12.920 I said, okay, now you didn't watch any film, but 0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:14.120 you so now you gotta go out there and you 0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.040 gotta play hard, you gotta give them a hundred percent. 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.440 You gotta do your thing. But there was games I 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:26.440 should have looked at the damn. I was like, this 0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:29.960 is not a good game, you know. But I think 0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:32.400 as a player, you gotta do whatever gives yourself that 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.360 edge mentally that it allows you to play better. That 0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:37.399 for me, that's what it wasn't. You know what if 0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:39.200 I don't look at him, that means I gotta bring 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.960 my best come son, you know, in terms of but 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:46.960 I prepare because preparation is everything everything for a player 0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:49.480 to become like Fred don't want to be good. He 0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:51.400 wanted to be great. That's why he was a great cornerback, 0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:53.239 not just a good cornerback. If you just want to 0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:55.439 be good, you're gonna be good. You want to be great, 0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.239 you gotta work at it and you got to put 0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.840 in the time. Like when I see people, when you 0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:02.640 see practice is over and that feels nobody's on the field, 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.000 they'll tell you everything you need. All right, now, I 0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:06.760 know if the team could be good at back. 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:10.040 Yeah yeah. And we started this all by saying this 0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:13.200 whole podcast by we were talking to Trail, what player 0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:17.840 loves football? Right, come. They come because they love you. 0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:21.440 Pay me later, I'll come to play some football. 0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:24.920 Yeah, well played football as good as it gets. 0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:26.400 The National Football League, Super. 0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:28.839 Bowl Champion, Pro Bowler, All Pro Gary Clark. 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:30.319 We appreciate it. She should be in the Hall of Fame. 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.759 But they seem to snub my guy. They seem to 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:35.360 snub the Washington guy, the Jacobe's of the world, the 0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:37.560 Brian Mitchell's of the world. I don't know what this 0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:40.840 internal external hate for the Washington guys coming from, but 0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.239 we're gonna have to make a step forward to get 0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:44.560 these guys where they just do. 0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:51.120 Now. I'm just glad to be on y'all podcast. I 0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:51.640 appreciate you. 0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:57.520 Yeah, appreciate you. I don't know how you follow that. 0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:01.000 It's hard to follow break to follow greatness, but we 0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:03.880 do have to pay the bills. So we're gonna do 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:04.719 that with handa. Yeah. 0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.440 Please do feel the power of the CRV Hybrid and 0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:11.320 a Court Hybrid, Honda's most electrifying vehicles yet. 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I 0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:14.680 think Johnny is a cautious tale. 0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.520 He is a cautionary tale, no question about that. 0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:21.000 So I think him being humbled by all this. I 0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:25.520 would love to see a Johnny Football redemption, similar to 0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:29.320 like Doug Flutie, Johnny Football goes to the Canadian League. 0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:31.920 He did go for a one no go play for 0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:35.400 five years re establish hisself. Some quarterback gets hurt with 0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:39.240 like three games left. This team brings in football football, 0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:41.760 takes that team to the Super Bowl and wins it. Listen, 0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:44.719 I just I always pray for people to like I 0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:47.080 like to see people rebound. Sure, that's my thing, and 0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:48.840 I would love to see him rebound. 0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:51.720 He says he's not going to attend this this Heisman 0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:55.719 get together. Yeah, because Reggie Bush has not received his 0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:59.000 Heisman because he was banned or from How to give 0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.799 that heisman back because the rules back when he was the. 0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:02.720 Winner of the Heisman trophy. 0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:05.800 And you are of the opinion that I disagreed that 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:06.640 they need to give him. 0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:09.600 That man is trophy. He earned that trophy, all right. 0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:11.680 He took some money. Now it's legal to take money, 0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:14.000 so now he breaks no rules in the new rule 0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.239 pair And I know how you feel, but all I'm 0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:20.360 saying is with talking about the heisman that he earned, 0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:24.680 he earned that give that man his trophy tell us 0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:26.600 how you feel. I just listened. 0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:28.520 First of all, I should have gone Vince Young. 0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:29.680 That's my personal opinion. 0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:33.760 But Reggie Bush, Reggie Bush was incredible when he played, 0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:36.720 There's no question about that. So when he got the heisman, 0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:39.400 he earned the heisman. But he broke the rules at 0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:42.800 the time. And now people are saying, well, yeah, he 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:46.120 didn't see Look at things are different now, yes, different now, 0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.439 but back then those were the rules. 0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:51.400 He broke. The old man alert. It is old man alert, 0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:53.239 old man alert. You know, and listen. 0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:56.880 I did some calculations, you know, the defensive rules frenchmood 0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.279 in the NBA. They are so much more relaxed now. 0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:01.919 They allow for so much more offensive scoring. I ran 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:05.160 some some metrics and now Michael Jordan's should have averaged 0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:06.120 forty four points a game. 0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:09.839 So let's give Michael Jordan forty four points. The rules 0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:12.880 are rules, don't do that. All I'm saying is, at 0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:16.160 the end of the day, I think people disagreed when 0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:20.640 it happened, and they showed disagree. Now get it, man, 0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:23.640 You know what you remind me of, Oh God, the 0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:28.799 o n Cuba, the faceless men like we never know them. 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:31.640 You boys are gonna follow my rules or it's out. 0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:35.040 We're gonna see your jersey and give you nothing for it. 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:37.400 You know what, We're gonna give you a scholarship, but 0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:40.080 I just made you twenty five million, and we're gonna 0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.960 give you free lunch. Right, that's who you are. Well, okay, 0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:44.759 let's win. 0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:48.080 Did the NFL start recording sacks like the late seventies? Yeah? 0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:48.560 Like that? 0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:50.120 Well, you know what. I've gone through the. 0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:54.120 Tape and there's a guy who played for the Chicago Cardinals, 0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:57.279 and I'll tell you one thing. Now, he gets the sack, 0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:01.200 but it wasn't counted back then. It's this is not 0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.400 personal to Reggie Bush. It's just I believe a slippery 0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:08.120 slope when you say, listen, now, things are different. Now 0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:10.719 that things are different, let's go back and change things 0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:14.359 from twenty thirty forty years ago, where the rules are 0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:16.160 completely different than they are now. 0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:19.320 Dirty old man alerty, dirty old well with the mustache 0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:19.600 might be. 0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:28.520 The views and opinion is expressed by our podcast guests 0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:31.080 and or hosts are their own and do not necessarily 0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.640 reflect the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:34.919 any of their representatives.