Speaker 1: Coming up on to Get Loud podcast. We have quarterback face.
Speaker 2: Yes, we have Super Bowl champion Gary bah.
Speaker 1: My god, you gotta stick around for that interview.
Speaker 2: And what else do we have? Dirty old man alert,
Speaker 2: Dirty old man alert.
Speaker 1: I ain't doing guys, it has to Get Loud podcast
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Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2: That's smooth. I'm jinx fresh fresh off of vacation.
Speaker 1: Looked hand up, face hand and creepy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those come getting But you say
Speaker 2: your girl wanted you to throw them.
Speaker 1: My girl said, please grow mustache, keep the stubble, let
Speaker 1: your big or let your hair kind of go crazy.
Speaker 1: Just keep this look for a while because I really
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: What about the mustache does she like? Because the mustache
Speaker 2: is ran his turn the mustache? I agree, Like, I
Speaker 2: think it's creepy to like, see a dude now and
Speaker 2: he just got a mustage, just a mustache, step stash.
Speaker 2: Where did they forcome creepy? Did it happen it like
Speaker 2: the late two thousands or something, but just the mustang.
Speaker 2: But no, if you're over fifty, you can't rock just
Speaker 2: the mustache, right, I just said fifty.
Speaker 1: I can do it. Now.
Speaker 2: Do I look creepy? Do you want your kids around me?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, Everybody staying away from the guy with the mustache.
Speaker 2: But the girl likes it, Hey, listen, And if she
Speaker 2: likes it, I love it. That's the way it has
Speaker 2: to be. The rumor is I don't remember this, but
Speaker 2: the rumor is that you used to have a mustache,
Speaker 2: weasel at the time. You know what, when I first
Speaker 2: came out of college, because I always had the baby face.
Speaker 2: And when you're young, you try to look older, and
Speaker 2: when you're older, you're trying to look young. So with
Speaker 2: that time, I was like, I need facial hair, but
Speaker 2: I couldn't grow a beard. Yeah, at the time, it
Speaker 2: was more like Paul Pierce in the Playoffs, you know,
Speaker 2: it was very spoty. I couldn't do it. So I
Speaker 2: just grew the mustache. And then one day I was
Speaker 2: looking in the mirror and I was ashamed of myself.
Speaker 2: Have you ever looked in the mimble visually? I'm the
Speaker 2: same say what am I doing?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What are you doing with this mustache? So then I
Speaker 2: just cut it off and then I started going military style,
Speaker 2: just clean face, yep. And that seemed to be good
Speaker 2: for me. But every wintertime I grew a beard, okay
Speaker 2: for my mom. You know, no shave, November cancer. You know,
Speaker 2: I grow my beard, but then I cut it right
Speaker 2: back off so the sun show his face. Can be
Speaker 2: I can grow a full beard, Yes I can. Oh,
Speaker 2: yes I can. That's when I turned to my alter ego,
Speaker 2: Smoothers Smooth's album. See you don't want to see Smoogers.
Speaker 2: I'm different than listen. I'm different with that beard. Now
Speaker 2: you know what I can say this about a beard? Okay,
Speaker 2: it go with a soup. Oh and bener and style too.
Speaker 2: When did it happen? When did women just say, you
Speaker 2: know what lumberjacks we want all down? And men? I
Speaker 2: did the men say you know what beards are? Back end?
Speaker 2: Because I don't know when it happened. I just remember
Speaker 2: it flipping, and I remember I wasn't cool anymore because
Speaker 2: I don't rock a beard right. And then now I'm
Speaker 2: in the elevator going to like the tenth floor. Some
Speaker 2: dude gets on the elevator, freshly groomed beard, lined up
Speaker 2: to the tea, smelling like a god. And now I'm
Speaker 2: taking guessing myself in my bed of them. So at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, hair for some men, so
Speaker 2: some men not. I would like to get a poll
Speaker 2: on how women really feel about beards. Do they love them,
Speaker 2: do they like them? They just okay?
Speaker 1: Well, if you're a lady in the comments, but in
Speaker 1: the comments beers beard or no? Yes, I already know
Speaker 1: which think about mustache? Yes, be like Jinks no go yeah,
Speaker 1: but I gotta keep the lady happen. Yeah, I understand
Speaker 1: beard or no.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: Thing that you are good at is evaluating talent. When
Speaker 1: I was on vacation, this was in the comments. This
Speaker 1: is from Contour thirty nine twenty Is it's just me?
Speaker 1: Or is Fred Smooth actually a better player evaluator than Logan?
Speaker 1: And someone else responded and I've been singing for months
Speaker 1: now Fred is way better evaluating players.
Speaker 2: Thank you fans for telling the truth. Now Logan is
Speaker 2: very good, but this is your chance, but he're gonna
Speaker 2: think about it. You don't go to a restaurant because
Speaker 2: it's very good. You go to great restaurants, right, and
Speaker 2: mine is a great restaurant, five stars, five stars. Where
Speaker 2: you talk about talent evaluation. At the end of the day,
Speaker 2: when I look for a football player, it's more than
Speaker 2: the forty is more than the bench press. Do you
Speaker 2: love the game of football? And then if I can
Speaker 2: find two or three things that I feel like that'll
Speaker 2: translate to the pros from college. If you got three
Speaker 2: out of the five, I think you got a good chance.
Speaker 2: Now it's all about what system do you get into
Speaker 2: right now? After that? Like as high as I was
Speaker 2: on Deebo Samuels when he came out, I knew he
Speaker 2: needed to be in the right system because if he didn't,
Speaker 2: they was gonna use him wrong. So I myself breaking
Speaker 2: down these guys. The combine was they blew it away
Speaker 2: this weekend, Yes, Like the combine was crazy. So watching
Speaker 2: these guys under that type of stress show up and
Speaker 2: do what they did, the DB's ran up out of there.
Speaker 2: Right I'm talking about four three, four fours. Everywhere the
Speaker 2: athletes are doing what everything else on earth does. They
Speaker 2: are evolving and that's a scary thing. They are getting bigger, stronger, faster.
Speaker 2: So now it's all about who could play within these
Speaker 2: white lines, within these four quarters. Who has the nerves
Speaker 2: to come down and understand it's still football. So it's
Speaker 2: a mental part of that too, so it can't all
Speaker 2: be about visual. I think you also had to try
Speaker 2: to break the player down mentally and see what do
Speaker 2: we loved the game of football?
Speaker 1: You said something that I always think is interesting, which
Speaker 1: is does this guy love the sport? Because there are
Speaker 1: a lot of players out there that good that that's
Speaker 1: good that they're like, I'm great at football, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, And you know players that love it because
Speaker 2: contracts don't matter to them. Like you see some players
Speaker 2: get a contract and they play go down. That mean
Speaker 2: they don't love the game. Right. They're good at the game,
Speaker 2: they got paid for the game, but they don't love it.
Speaker 2: Like I was always told this, if you love something
Speaker 2: and you love put love in it, it'll love you back. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2: this game of football has loved me because I have
Speaker 2: put love into it. So I could always tell in
Speaker 2: the locker room which player loves it. Like I used
Speaker 2: to love practicing me coach Gibb just talking about it,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, like what, most players don't love practice?
Speaker 2: Why do It's another day of playing football. I love
Speaker 2: the locker room, I love my teammates, I love just
Speaker 2: doing it. Like people don't understand this is a children's game.
Speaker 2: We're getting paid as grown men to play a game.
Speaker 2: I play a children's game. I better enjoy it with
Speaker 2: a childlike heart, because if you don't, it will spit
Speaker 2: you to, you up and spit you out, no doubt.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into the combine and what we say.
Speaker 1: Awesome players, maybe on the rise, baby got to it's
Speaker 1: falling in yours.
Speaker 2: But what was your comedy experience?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: First of all, I was part of that at one
Speaker 2: percent of one percent, so I ain't have to really
Speaker 2: do nothing that to come by. I was just walking
Speaker 2: around with my chest out, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: daffing people up, talking to people. I did my interviews.
Speaker 2: I really didn't do nothing at to come by. But
Speaker 2: I did the bench press one time, baby, one thrust.
Speaker 2: There you go, rack them, dude, I told to rack them.
Speaker 2: Y'all is not come here for a bodybuilder. You came
Speaker 2: here for a football player. I'm a grass athlete. Show
Speaker 2: me the grass and I'll show you some some interceptions.
Speaker 2: I'll show you some players watch me run. I was
Speaker 2: never the strongest. I was one hundred and seventy five
Speaker 2: pounds when I came out right five fifty pounds more
Speaker 2: than so at the time, and then long ums that
Speaker 2: don't help you in the bench press, right, So I
Speaker 2: already knew that was gonna be my weakest thing, but
Speaker 2: I knew how to I didn't care. Like and when
Speaker 2: one coach told me, like, I give you more props
Speaker 2: for getting under there, because most players wouldn't have they
Speaker 2: would have find a way to say I ain't gonna
Speaker 2: do the bench press. He was like, you knew you
Speaker 2: was gonna do it one time. You did not care
Speaker 2: that say, it's a lot about you. So I think
Speaker 2: sometimes people gotta understand you're gonna be on the surface
Speaker 2: any rate. They canna find out everything about you and
Speaker 2: the comebine like it's the most intrusive, Like they know
Speaker 2: everything from your blood type. We literally sit in the
Speaker 2: hospital for the first eight hours after we land. We
Speaker 2: literally land, we get on the bus and we go
Speaker 2: to the hospital for eight hours. They checking everything from
Speaker 2: bone man and everything you can possibly a family history
Speaker 2: in the history in your fair like they gonna get
Speaker 2: down to the nitty gritty and do what I say, Like,
Speaker 2: sometimes I don't think the combine is fair in it, right,
Speaker 2: because you just took two paints some of blood right,
Speaker 2: and now you want me to run the forty tomorrow
Speaker 2: and bench like, come on, inn like I think it's
Speaker 2: it's it's high wress a ride only a few people
Speaker 2: can hear me.
Speaker 1: And also there's an interview process.
Speaker 2: They want to get to know you. And guess what
Speaker 2: this is. How the interview looks. See these cameras out here,
Speaker 2: the GM sitting right there, the head coach sitting right
Speaker 2: there with the caramonia, Fred God, Fred Smooth? What happened
Speaker 2: on Mississippi State campus two thousand of May the second
Speaker 2: I went to a frat party and it was jumping.
Speaker 2: So they know these factual things about you, and they
Speaker 2: want to see you talk about these things. They're gonna
Speaker 2: ask some of the weirdest questions like this one, Fred Smooth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened to that buttercake you made over the weekend?
Speaker 2: It was drunken? Oh okay, and I lost to Zach
Speaker 2: Selby Man. I lost the cookoff and it hurt so bad.
Speaker 2: See the thing about it, he went ooey gouie like
Speaker 2: the ones you buy out of the store the square
Speaker 2: on and I tried to do it my stroll style. Alright,
Speaker 2: that was in my spring loaded pan. I tried to
Speaker 2: make it higher. I tried to make it steakhouse quality.
Speaker 2: I feel short in doing it. Feel short. We'll be back,
Speaker 2: but I'll be back. Don't worry about it. Hey. The
Speaker 2: one thing about it, I'm young, jeezy when I come
Speaker 2: to that of and then they're kitchen and them possing
Speaker 2: and pays.
Speaker 1: So you watched a lot of the combine. I watched
Speaker 1: some of it as well. Who is a player or
Speaker 1: two that you watched, and certainly what they did in
Speaker 1: college stands out on the field, but that really stood
Speaker 1: out to you moneymakers of the weekend.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's start off with one guy, JJ McCarty. Listen
Speaker 2: to me, Not only does he have quarterback face. Now
Speaker 2: you know my terms of quarterback face. Do you understand that.
Speaker 2: You gotta explain it all right? Quarterback faces. This when
Speaker 2: we grew up in high school and junior high school,
Speaker 2: ain't the tallest, sexiest, prettiest man always the quarterback. Listen,
Speaker 2: it just happens right like college and walk up in
Speaker 2: you're like, you don't have to see who the quarterback is.
Speaker 2: You can put them out like it's the quarterbacks quarterback face.
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh right, So I started to
Speaker 2: do my investigation on quarterback face all right, and I
Speaker 2: have a scale of one to ten. JJ McCarty comes
Speaker 2: into the eight point five in quarterback face me. He's
Speaker 2: a very attractive man.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: So, the thing about it is, I did my investigation.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, who are the unattractive quarterbacks that
Speaker 2: have been great in the league. So as I started
Speaker 2: to go through, it was only two teams that kept
Speaker 2: sticking out, that just kept coming with ugg quarterbacks. The
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Stealers. Oh yeah, they had been they had a
Speaker 2: run for a while. Cordell Stewart, big Ben. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: wasn't good, you know. So then no, I'm being honest,
Speaker 2: no I know. So then I started saying, you know, well,
Speaker 2: who out of you know the great quarterback. Then I
Speaker 2: was like, damn Marino Joe, like these guys yeah, Patrick
Speaker 2: mahone old boy. You know what I'm saying, Like, come on, man,
Speaker 2: so quarterback, you show me a quarterback. Then I started
Speaker 2: to drop him down my draft board. Now, like I said,
Speaker 2: it's a selpfious to the rule, it's a selfish to everything. Sure,
Speaker 2: but JJ McCarthy, I think by interviewing the way he
Speaker 2: threw the ball, and he only did what he was
Speaker 2: asked to do in college with a pro coach in college,
Speaker 2: I think he made hisself some money this week I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked if six quarterbacks go in the first round.
Speaker 1: He grows the beard, he might get even better.
Speaker 2: Now he billyed he with, that's gonna be too much.
Speaker 2: I thought Michael Pennix made hisself some money this weekend.
Speaker 2: I thought he threw the ball. Well. Everybody talking about
Speaker 2: how the doxs is throwing motion in his left hand,
Speaker 2: but people don't understand about it. If you're catching a
Speaker 2: left hand ball, it's spends kund of clockwise. It's different,
Speaker 2: different than the right hand ball. So I think people
Speaker 2: don't look at that. So I think he made him
Speaker 2: some money. Pop Chop Robinson, I was gonna say, Chop Robinson.
Speaker 2: He looked good. He looked good.
Speaker 1: He's already in All American and then he shut off
Speaker 1: that speed and random that's what.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Two hundred and forty pounds, and he
Speaker 2: say he was named poor Chop because when he was
Speaker 2: born he was fourteen pounds. God imagine carrying him congratulation.
Speaker 2: You knew, hey, you knew when he was born. I
Speaker 2: would have held him up just like this. This is
Speaker 2: the Knicks. Like fourteen pounds. That's two babies and one
Speaker 2: that's twin, Oh my god. And one baby, No, two
Speaker 2: seven pound twin. That's a hefty bird. Another one that
Speaker 2: looked good of getting off their bus. I brought up
Speaker 2: Deebo Simmons. Okay, South Carolina game cops got another one.
Speaker 2: Xavier Leget Okay, he is listen. He looked like on
Speaker 2: a swar with his shirt off. Oh, then he ran
Speaker 2: a four four forty. Then he looked fluent in all
Speaker 2: his drills. Do not be shocked if he heat skyrockets. Okay,
Speaker 2: put like this. He won't get past the Chiefs at
Speaker 2: thirty two if he's still available, but he probably won't
Speaker 2: be available. I got one for it. Talk to me
Speaker 2: checks his boy Byron Murphy the second. Yes he did,
Speaker 2: big boy, let me tell you. And when you said Texas,
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna go for the low hand group.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not gonna talk about Xavier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I'm talking about six.
Speaker 1: One three oh five, built like a bowling ball, who
Speaker 1: runs a four to eighty seven as a defensive tackle.
Speaker 2: Do people understand what four point eight seconds is as
Speaker 2: a de tackle. He's three hundred pounds and I just
Speaker 2: said it takes him four point eight seconds to run
Speaker 2: forty yards. That's a car accident. Every time he hits
Speaker 2: somebody chasing him down, that's a car accident. Made him
Speaker 2: some money. This we assure that Roma dooms Day, Oh yep,
Speaker 2: hey listen, love him. Great name, Roma dooms Day. Listen,
Speaker 2: I literally be doctor doone would be my name, and
Speaker 2: I would burn every cornerback in the lead with a
Speaker 2: name like that. He reminds me of Jamar Chase. So
Speaker 2: what is that telling you? It's a great baller, All
Speaker 2: right baller. Everybody's talking about marm and Harrison and they should.
Speaker 2: But this kid right here, if Marvin right here, this
Speaker 2: guy is right there, it's not. It's not that far
Speaker 2: like people. I understand Marma Harrison polished. This dude right
Speaker 2: here is polished too. Another guy, and it's the it's
Speaker 2: the death of Alabama. That's why I've been enjoying watching this.
Speaker 2: But this is gonna be their last good crop. I
Speaker 2: enjoy watching the death of Alabama. Dallas Turner, showed up,
Speaker 2: showed out, made his mama some money. You know when
Speaker 2: you did it too, because see, I've been there as
Speaker 2: a player like cause it ain't nothing jinx like running
Speaker 2: the forty Right when you put your hand on that
Speaker 2: line and you're thinking about everything you did in your career,
Speaker 2: everything you didn't work, every everything you didn't work for
Speaker 2: about these next four seconds, everything you ever done. So
Speaker 2: when you do this, your mind and your mind is
Speaker 2: I mean, finna make me some money. I'm finna lose
Speaker 2: some and that'll motivate you. And when you come out
Speaker 2: of there, and when you running, and I'm talking about running,
Speaker 2: you're running for your life. You're running for everything. And
Speaker 2: when you cross that line and you heard the clock
Speaker 2: and they like four to three selves, did you see
Speaker 2: that right there? Because you know now I just broke
Speaker 2: the sound, Burier. Now only did I break the sound Burier,
Speaker 2: I did it right here, right now when I had
Speaker 2: to do it. The pressure on you, the pressure mad
Speaker 2: yourself some money.
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Speaker 1: Obviously, what we see in the draft will affect teams
Speaker 1: in the upcoming season. If you talk about teams who
Speaker 1: are maybe mystery teams, if you will. Yes, teams that
Speaker 1: have a lot to work with. The commander is one
Speaker 1: of those teams. Yes, But teams where based on draft,
Speaker 1: based on cap, based on the direction of which they
Speaker 1: want to go, are intriguing to you.
Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers, let's start there, okay, because out of
Speaker 2: all the bad quarterback play they had last year, they
Speaker 2: almost make the playoffs. Do y'all understand? Yeah, that's say
Speaker 2: that they trade with the Chicago Bears, get him a
Speaker 2: second round pick for Justin Fields. Now, how do you
Speaker 2: think about the Pittsburgh Steelers much differently, much differently? They like?
Speaker 2: Then you like, yeah, they going to the playoffs most definitely?
Speaker 2: You feel that way, all right? I will feel that
Speaker 2: way because of the Mika Fitzpatricks on their team. Don't
Speaker 2: forget they still got TJ what like George Pickens they
Speaker 2: got they got ballers, all right. So they are team
Speaker 2: that you always got to watch out for cause they
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh period. And also he'll be attrack to quarter back
Speaker 2: on the team too. Next, I got the Green Bay Packers. Okay,
Speaker 2: they did it with puppies this year. They did it
Speaker 2: with youngsters this year. That's true. They're going to get
Speaker 2: a year older and bring in another year of talent.
Speaker 2: And we know one thing about green Bay. They know
Speaker 2: how to draft and nurture talent. The green Bay Packers
Speaker 2: are starting some special up there and nobody wants to
Speaker 2: talk about it, all right, they are. And I love
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. I just don't see him staying in Minnesota
Speaker 2: being a threat to Green Bay. Are to the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 2: I just do not fill any threat from them. Another
Speaker 2: team that's very intriguing, and they could feel justin fields.
Speaker 2: How about justin fields to the Atlanta Falcons. Oh, justin fields.
Speaker 2: They have weapons, be Jah and Robinson, Kyle Pitts, a
Speaker 2: tight end, Drake London. They wid receive an instant playoff
Speaker 2: team in a week. NFC South, what do you think
Speaker 2: about the Giants?
Speaker 1: Like in the world of the Giants, they stinky, But
Speaker 1: they're saying now that they're thinking about a quarterback at
Speaker 1: number six or making a move for a quarter like
Speaker 1: they signed Daniel Jones to that massive deal they have
Speaker 1: at taxed sae Quon.
Speaker 2: Yet, Yeah, is there a possibility.
Speaker 1: That they say, you know what, let's just blow it up,
Speaker 1: you know and just and just start to scratch.
Speaker 2: You know what, Just like I say, quarterback face has
Speaker 2: a lot to do with me when I'm looking at quarterbacks. Also,
Speaker 2: I'm one of them people with athletes athlete names. Like
Speaker 2: we have names, ok, like names that you don't hear
Speaker 2: in this regular society all of the time. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: you don't hear kool aid m cask hed. Like these
Speaker 2: football sports names give us something to live up to. Now,
Speaker 2: if you tell me, here'll come. Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: You mean fidelities like Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. I've met ninety nine Daniel Jones on my
Speaker 2: way to work this morning. There's nothing more normal than
Speaker 2: Daniel in Jones. Listen to me. You want regular play,
Speaker 2: you want every day regular play, Go get a guy
Speaker 2: with a regular name. Yeah, Patrick mahonalds ain't no regular name.
Speaker 2: Ain't regular like too, not a regular name like Joe Mont,
Speaker 2: John Elway. You know one of those. Yeah, I know
Speaker 2: a thousand dann Daniel Jones is fred nice to me?
Speaker 1: I hear you're interested in the bond market, like I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, Daniel Jones. Are you doing my taxes like Daniel Jones? No,
Speaker 2: they don't feel like JJ McCarthy. Here comes JJ McCarthy
Speaker 2: in the New York Giants.
Speaker 1: Now there is a possibility the Giants could make a
Speaker 1: move or they stick at six where McCarthy could be.
Speaker 2: No, he will be. It's gonna be there. He will
Speaker 2: be there.
Speaker 1: So the question is, take that handsomness, society, even though
Speaker 1: he's like a handsome quarterback.
Speaker 2: Would you take JJ McCarthy at six? Sometimes I was
Speaker 2: always told by rich men, Okay, your best investments, you
Speaker 2: probably overpay for them. Okay, So yes, if that's gonna
Speaker 2: be your investment and you go overdraft him, I don't
Speaker 2: never feel like you overdrafted if you got your person
Speaker 2: you want, right. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: if they feel like Daniel Jones is too regular, they
Speaker 2: need somebody to come in there with some Yeah, they
Speaker 2: could throw the ball, all right, why not? Why not?
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones has shown you one thing. My best year,
Speaker 2: I was still regular. M you paid me. Count that money.
Speaker 2: I ain't never gonna stop nobody from getting no contract, right,
Speaker 2: count that money. But if you're a Giants fan right now,
Speaker 2: you can't tell me you wouldn't rather have Michael Pennix
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy and take their uh, let them take their
Speaker 2: bumps and watch them go through their bruises. Then you
Speaker 2: will watch Daniel Jones, a guy that'd been in the
Speaker 2: league for five to six years.
Speaker 1: How much of that is due to the Giants? I
Speaker 1: mean offensively, they just don't They have Saquon. Their line
Speaker 1: is bad, They don't have.
Speaker 2: A lot of talent. So who they got he a
Speaker 2: free agent? Well, right, they couldn't take you.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying if you're looking at Daniel Jones in
Speaker 1: the past couple years, right, like he's had Saquon there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: banged up, but they don't have a lot of offensive tools.
Speaker 1: So how much of that do you chalk up to
Speaker 1: the Giants just being sold more bund offense?
Speaker 2: Hey, we we can't do that, Jenks don't do that.
Speaker 2: Don't see, I'm gonna make it. I dont think he's
Speaker 2: a great quarterback. They called it making an excuse for
Speaker 2: your kids. If your kids bad, they probably because you're
Speaker 2: a bad parent. At the end of the day. No,
Speaker 2: you can't make an excuse for him because I just
Speaker 2: watched past the home take his team to the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl and win it with a seventh round wide receive.
Speaker 2: I mean a running back, a thirty five year old
Speaker 2: tight end and nobody at wide receiver at quarterback, Are
Speaker 2: you a dude or are you a force multiplier? A
Speaker 2: force multiplier makes those around him better. Yeah, Daniel Jones
Speaker 2: don't make anybody better. He's not a force multiplier. He's
Speaker 2: a dude. Yes, that's it. I think they want to
Speaker 2: They understand you got Dak, you got Jalen Hurts, and
Speaker 2: come on, Washington got the number two pick, and you
Speaker 2: got Daniel Jones. So I'm asking you, no, I don't
Speaker 2: believe in Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious because it's all relative, right, Like, even
Speaker 1: behind an incredible offensive line, I don't think he's some
Speaker 1: sort of top tier quarterback. I'm saying, on a bad
Speaker 1: football team. How much does that play into any sort
Speaker 1: of evaluation of any quarterback? Like how much better would
Speaker 1: he be behind the great offensive line?
Speaker 2: So much better? Or just still a dude? I think
Speaker 2: he's still a dude. I don't think it's anything special
Speaker 2: about Daniel Jones. Where Like if I told you to
Speaker 2: close your eyes and give me the just guess a
Speaker 2: quarterback that might have a chance to be in the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl in the next five years. I wouldn't guess
Speaker 2: that's not coming out. No, not a Daniel Jones led
Speaker 2: Giants team, Right, you don't think that. I don't think that.
Speaker 2: I would say Bryce Young before I say that, because
Speaker 2: I know he did have a terrible team and he
Speaker 2: a rookie. Yes, rookie, go have an I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2: But I like insanity doing the same thing over and
Speaker 2: over again, inspecting a different resort. I think that's what
Speaker 2: the Giants are doing right now. I think it's regular. Like, like,
Speaker 2: this is one thing in sports you really never want
Speaker 2: to be. You never want to be in mediocrity, correct
Speaker 2: and stuck in that. That's where they are. This is
Speaker 2: where they are. Like you either want to like be
Speaker 2: at the top or at the bottom. At least you
Speaker 2: got a direction you going up? Are you trying to
Speaker 2: stay there?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: They're right here in the middle. Yes, eight and nine,
Speaker 2: that's where they are. Seven and nine.
Speaker 1: Well whatever, I feel like that's how the Vikings have
Speaker 1: been with Kirk Cousins for years. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to change the conversation. I'm just saying, if you're
Speaker 1: talking about being stuck in mediocrity, look, Kirk is obviously
Speaker 1: Kirk co Chains much better quarterback than Jones, is good
Speaker 1: enough to take him next level, know, which is why
Speaker 1: for years the Vikings just kind of sitting there churning
Speaker 1: winning some regular season games.
Speaker 2: It was never a playoff threat, but never a playoff threat.
Speaker 1: And just you know what, You're gonna have a fine
Speaker 1: regular season, You're gonna lose in the playoffs, and you
Speaker 1: know what, You're next year the very same thing. And
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to say it's time for a chance, and.
Speaker 2: You're gonna pay him. Like the one thing I can
Speaker 2: say about Kurt, he is one of the best accounts
Speaker 2: out there with he know how to cast some checks now,
Speaker 2: but you're not going to get past the first round
Speaker 2: of the playoffs with Kirk Cousins. Is your quarterback? Correct?
Speaker 2: It's proven. I don't this ain't no. If I'm not
Speaker 2: guessing right, this is who he is.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna become a different player coming off of
Speaker 1: a killer his injury at thirty six.
Speaker 2: He's not right. But guess what, eight billion people on
Speaker 2: this planet. We haven't found thirty two people that can
Speaker 2: play quarterback at the same time, do y'all understand the numbers?
Speaker 2: I just said eight billion? We can't find thirty two
Speaker 2: people to be good at the quarterback at the same time,
Speaker 2: imagine that everybody eighty nine, everybody eighty eight. Imagine just
Speaker 2: a duel. Every time you shure, what, no, we haven't
Speaker 2: found that. We never find that. Here's something hard to
Speaker 2: find dual sport athletes.
Speaker 1: And I am reading, yeah, that you were almost a
Speaker 1: walk on basketball player.
Speaker 2: I was. I was always built like a basketball player.
Speaker 2: Don't you think I was never built like a football player?
Speaker 1: Right? If I get if I didn't know you like
Speaker 1: he played basketball.
Speaker 2: Basketball always built and basketball helped me in football. Father
Speaker 2: is a lot, but basketball was my theme for a
Speaker 2: long time. But I also played both sports. And Randalo
Speaker 2: was at Indiana at the time. Randaleo was dual sports.
Speaker 2: Randalo played quarterback for the football team, point going for
Speaker 2: the basketball team.
Speaker 1: I remember playing quarterback. I got you play basket.
Speaker 2: He played part guard. So they was like, we'll let
Speaker 2: both of you play if you come here. And they
Speaker 2: was like, not only are we gonna let you play
Speaker 2: basketball and football, We're gonna let you play cornerback. And
Speaker 2: why we want you to partner with ill on the offense. Oh,
Speaker 2: they were trying to get you man oh I left Indiana,
Speaker 2: told my mama, I am going to Indiana. I'm about
Speaker 2: to be a Hoosier. I was so Coach Cam. Coach
Speaker 2: Cam Cameron was the coach at the time he came
Speaker 2: to the Pro three years later. I was going to
Speaker 2: be a part of that team. And it had a
Speaker 2: lot to do with the duo, all the stuff that
Speaker 2: they was gonna let me do. And I know you
Speaker 2: shocked that I had the grace to get into Indiana.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I see Anna behind that, like, yes, I was dead intelligence,
Speaker 2: Yes it was there. But speaking of duel guys, it's
Speaker 2: been a lot of guys that I think people forget about.
Speaker 2: That was two sports stars. That's right. Julius Peppers played
Speaker 2: North Carolina hoops. You know how good.
Speaker 1: You gotta be the good player, a good player.
Speaker 2: Then you got a guy like Tony Gonzalez who actually hooped,
Speaker 2: like did both of them extensively, and he was the star,
Speaker 2: owned the basketball. He was the man.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why he got drafted. So
Speaker 1: how they said, have you seen this kid on a
Speaker 1: court court?
Speaker 2: Yes, So people forget about Tony Gonzalez. Bo Jackson gotta
Speaker 2: throw him out. Bo nos Like the thing about bow is,
Speaker 2: do you think with no injury, is he the biggest
Speaker 2: what if in NFL history? If he if he don't
Speaker 2: get hurt, is he the all time? Leaning Russia? Not
Speaker 2: Barry saying, I mean not Immage Smith, because I think so.
Speaker 1: Watching him play you see more of his baseball hellots
Speaker 1: and footballs. But man, he was just a force. Yes,
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything. I've never seen a combination after that.
Speaker 2: Ever, you got Charlie Ward, the Heisman Trophy winner that
Speaker 2: not only wins the Heisman, gets drafted in the NBA,
Speaker 2: never plays football in the pros. All right, Then you
Speaker 2: got everybody forget about bj Brian Jordan. That's a good call.
Speaker 2: Brian Jordan played cornerback with Prime and then they would
Speaker 2: and go play last they did. Everybody forget about Brian Jordan.
Speaker 2: Terrell oins. People don't understand that Chattanooga he hooped, he
Speaker 2: would go like he played both sports at Chattanooga. People
Speaker 2: don't forget that about t O. Now I know that
Speaker 2: Jason's campbell my quarterback. That's my quarterback. People don't understand
Speaker 2: Jason got drafted out of high school as a picture.
Speaker 2: Did it really got off of the scholarship football and
Speaker 2: basketball to Auburn. Yes he was a three sport guy.
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Speaker 1: Paid, bills paid, and just like that, ABC abricadabra, and
Speaker 1: we bring in a special guest Redskins legend. This Gary Clark,
Speaker 1: one of the greats to ever play receiver for this organization.
Speaker 2: How are you the man the mill the legends. See,
Speaker 2: you know what when we want to get winners in
Speaker 2: the buildings. See the one thing about us We played football,
Speaker 2: but we ain't mean nothing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: See, I ain't the head yields, I ain't the same
Speaker 2: head coaches here and we still couldn't win nothing. But
Speaker 2: we here right now with the Super Bowl Champ, the
Speaker 2: one and only. Gary. Thank you for coming to the show,
Speaker 2: my brother.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: You know what was funny is that you sat down
Speaker 1: about thirty seconds and Smooth was already talking about matchups.
Speaker 2: Immediately competitive like we like to talk to traans to
Speaker 2: each other. So we brought up a scenario one day,
Speaker 2: I think we was in the lunch room. Dad here
Speaker 2: was here, and we said, what would have happened with
Speaker 2: the matchup with me Champ Bailey and dere Green okay
Speaker 2: versus Ricky Sanders, Gary Clark, Art Monk. All right, Now,
Speaker 2: I didn't say who their quarterback was.
Speaker 3: They had it wouldn't matter.
Speaker 2: How you think that matchup?
Speaker 3: Go, now, we were multi them super Bowls with different quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: It's all good, man.
Speaker 2: So what do you think we got a chance with
Speaker 2: y'all to know, you just give us some problems.
Speaker 3: I mean, y'all would have got us prepared for the
Speaker 3: super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yes, we ain't going to the super Bowl with y'all.
Speaker 3: Y'all got us prepared.
Speaker 1: You would have helped us on the practice squad.
Speaker 3: But no, seriously, though, I mean, you guys men and
Speaker 3: man skills were off the charts. You know, I got
Speaker 3: a chance to watch you guys play. They get a
Speaker 3: chance to play against your of course, but I got
Speaker 3: a chance to watch you guys played and just to
Speaker 3: see how you guys would handle the different receivers and
Speaker 3: quite talented receivers that came after we had left the game.
Speaker 3: And no, you guys are excellent, excellent cornerbacks. I mean
Speaker 3: one percent. You guys could definitely talk trash and back
Speaker 3: it up the majority of the time. I mean a posse,
Speaker 3: that's the whole that that's kind of picking your poison.
Speaker 3: Everybody list all three defensive backs would have to be
Speaker 3: on point that game. Yeah, you know, because typically that's
Speaker 3: every now and then, you know, like it's not like
Speaker 3: we always had great games every game that we played,
Speaker 3: but there was gonna be one or two of us
Speaker 3: that it was always going to come out and shine
Speaker 3: because you know, they weren't getting doubled that day, you know,
Speaker 3: So if you didn't double with me, I took it
Speaker 3: as I took it as an insult, as you should.
Speaker 3: I mean, I took it as an insult, and and
Speaker 3: it just made it worse for that team, quite honestly,
Speaker 3: because you know, especially if you're doubling with a safety,
Speaker 3: if you're double them with two good cornerbacks, that's different.
Speaker 3: Like like say like your your main cornerback and then
Speaker 3: you're a fifth man coming in. You know, that's different.
Speaker 3: But you try to double with a corner and a safety, yeah,
Speaker 3: I say safe safety. Safety. Safety is not used to covering.
Speaker 2: They don't cover.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they're not no. One on one type
Speaker 3: of thing. They're always back there. They got that cushion
Speaker 3: between them. So if I ever get head up with
Speaker 3: you and your safety, yeah, the game's over. It's different.
Speaker 3: If you're a cornerback, you know how to treat they
Speaker 3: they're know how to retreat. They know how to cheat.
Speaker 3: They know how to hold, they're notw to do just
Speaker 3: like and we know how to push off. We know
Speaker 3: how to do all those sames safeties. They're never in
Speaker 3: that situation typically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you this to one of your
Speaker 2: teams got voted the most complete team of all time?
Speaker 2: All right. I don't know if you.
Speaker 3: Saw the probably did not even super Bowl.
Speaker 2: And I was about to ask you about that. I
Speaker 2: teams you played on. You played on some damn good teams.
Speaker 2: Which one was the most complete?
Speaker 1: To you? Now? I know what.
Speaker 2: I know what the magazine and ESPN voted on. Which
Speaker 2: one was the most complete team? Where you you felt
Speaker 2: like every time, y'all when the first quarter, baill run y'all,
Speaker 2: you're like, this is already over.
Speaker 3: I'd probably have to say the ninety one I probably
Speaker 3: have to say the ninety one team, just because we
Speaker 3: started off so strong. You know, we could spot you
Speaker 3: a lead and then just come and take it away,
Speaker 3: you know, like we And the biggest reason I felt
Speaker 3: that way is no matter even the games that we
Speaker 3: lost lay honest, which really was only Dallas. He thought
Speaker 3: we lost against Philadelphia too, but Joe pulled out. He
Speaker 3: had pulled off the starters out of the game because
Speaker 3: of the playoff situation. But we never thought we was
Speaker 3: out of a game. And that's I mean, that's I
Speaker 3: don't care if it could have been forty to nothing
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, yeah, but eight minutes left, we
Speaker 3: still would think we'd win the football game. And it's
Speaker 3: just our mindset was that way. And when you got
Speaker 3: defenses who was just shutting everybody down, and then you
Speaker 3: got an offense that can store thirty points in a
Speaker 3: quarter if they need to, Yeah, that's the hard combination
Speaker 3: to beat right there. And we just for some reason
Speaker 3: that year, everything was all cylinders. We didn't have injuries,
Speaker 3: everybody was healthy. You know, we went into it. I mean,
Speaker 3: quite honestly, we should have went undefeated that season. I'm
Speaker 3: so mad that we didn't go undefeated because everybody wants
Speaker 3: the perfect record. Everybody's chasing the Dolphins, everybody the Patriots
Speaker 3: the most important game. But uh but yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: we thought it was going to have it that way,
Speaker 3: and we probably was a little cocky. Probably. Yeah, the lost. Honestly,
Speaker 3: the lost might have been looking could have been good
Speaker 3: because it brought us back to reality. We were we
Speaker 3: were like, I mean, we're always ready. Always were kind
Speaker 3: of a little bit cocky as a team, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean I remember in my first Super Bowl with
Speaker 3: the Hogs. I mean they're telling the Broncos what plays
Speaker 3: we're going to run. You know, they're so confident, man,
Speaker 3: they may letting them know what it is. And so
Speaker 3: initially I was like, God, so crazy what you're doing.
Speaker 3: That's one of my third year in the league, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm like, don't be quiet, you know. But about about
Speaker 3: four fifth year and I'm saying, I'm telling Dv's what
Speaker 3: I'm going to do, you know, because TeV don't know
Speaker 3: if I'm telling the truth lying. Yeah, But then what
Speaker 3: you know is that when you do do it, and
Speaker 3: then they see that you did do what you said,
Speaker 3: you was a good mess with their psyche. The next
Speaker 3: time you play Oh yeah, so the next time you
Speaker 3: play them, I'm going to lie to you at that time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to lie to you and tell
Speaker 3: run some time around. I'm telling run a posma around corner.
Speaker 1: The way the game has changed now where it's such
Speaker 1: a pass happy league, the quarterback is so predicted and
Speaker 1: we see offenses just explode. You look back and say, man,
Speaker 1: if I was playing today, my numbers mid your numbers
Speaker 1: were already incredible back then. In today's game, I feel
Speaker 1: like they'd be even bigger than they work.
Speaker 2: The field is open, yes it was. It was closed
Speaker 2: when he played because they were knocking pep out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're getting headaches, you know. And they bought me
Speaker 3: in to be the guy to go across the middle
Speaker 3: of the field. So my initial my first fight, that's
Speaker 3: what me. I'm taking that fifteen yard square ending that slant.
Speaker 3: I was getting headaches every week because I was getting
Speaker 3: the crap knocked out there to do it. But you know,
Speaker 3: that was like my little niche that I was able
Speaker 3: to do and be able to turn into other things.
Speaker 3: But if I was playing in today's game, But the
Speaker 3: amount of times that they throw the rock, yeah, tig.
Speaker 3: I mean, like Terry's finally breaking some of my records now,
Speaker 3: but those records are all thirty years old. Yeah, I mean, so,
Speaker 3: I mean if I was playing now, where I'm going
Speaker 3: to catch a hundred balls a year? Yeah, more than
Speaker 3: one hundred balls a year, come on now. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: we came in. We came in the league when it
Speaker 3: was a when I first came into the league, fifty
Speaker 3: catches was the thing, Like, you got fifty catches, she
Speaker 3: was considered a good receiver. Yeah, you know, and then
Speaker 3: you know Shouston in Buffalo. Yeah, and then we turned
Speaker 3: from like a run first team because Joe has always
Speaker 3: been a run first, throw second team. We ended up
Speaker 3: turning it. But he's also looks at his personnel. That's
Speaker 3: what I loved about Joe, Like he looks at his
Speaker 3: personnel and did it slowly. After the eighty seventh when
Speaker 3: we got to about around eighty nineteen eighty nine, it
Speaker 3: was throw pass set up to run. Our running backs
Speaker 3: still got a thousand yar yes, yeah, but because they
Speaker 3: thought we was going to throw the ball three downs
Speaker 3: out of the four downs, you know, so it started.
Speaker 3: You know, we had we had a Joe was just
Speaker 3: brilliant and how he mastered that offense. I mean, this
Speaker 3: was unbelievable what we could do with it. And he
Speaker 3: also allowed us to we want to make a change
Speaker 3: in the game. Better work, Yeah, that'll work. But it worked.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I brought up to the quarterback. We never
Speaker 3: brought it up to Joe. We brought it up during
Speaker 3: the game to the quarterbacks, and then the quarterbacks would
Speaker 3: have to agree to it, of course, But you know,
Speaker 3: it's like anything else. We're the players, like for example,
Speaker 3: you're the def it's a back then you know if
Speaker 3: they call a zone, but you know that you can
Speaker 3: shut me down, you're gonna go and shut me down,
Speaker 3: just going to I mean so, but you need a
Speaker 3: coach that allows you to do those things and don't
Speaker 3: and then you're not gonna be right every time, you know.
Speaker 3: But he doesn't hold that against you, and he still
Speaker 3: allows you to go out there and play your game.
Speaker 3: And that's what I loved about Joe. He allowed you know,
Speaker 3: he probably hated me. He told me, I hate you
Speaker 3: Monday through Saturday. I love you on Sundays, you know so,
Speaker 3: But he's just he was just a magical coach. And
Speaker 3: you find coaches like that. Eventually you win Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Here, I played in FedEx Field. You watched a million
Speaker 2: games field, but you played it rifk Uh. I'm sure
Speaker 2: it's a stark difference in them. Could you paint a picture.
Speaker 2: Could you take me on a Sunday afternoon and and
Speaker 2: just described to me how it feels, maybe even from
Speaker 2: the drive in, like take me to r f K
Speaker 2: and it made it so special.
Speaker 3: We truly had a twelve man It was unbelievable. I mean,
Speaker 3: you come into the stadium and for the most part,
Speaker 3: there is no other color jersey in your stadium. Like
Speaker 3: for example, when we need the crowd the defense, I mean,
Speaker 3: the offense has a ball on the other team, our
Speaker 3: crowd is loud. And when our offense has a team
Speaker 3: sold yeah, we get stuff into it. I mean it
Speaker 3: was unbelievable. And I mean the fans, I mean we
Speaker 3: had like something like an eighty thousand waiting list. We're
Speaker 3: sold out. We're sold out. It was still sold out
Speaker 3: before I got there. Yeah, you know. And and again.
Speaker 3: But when Joe came back to FedEx Field and Fedxfield
Speaker 3: got a common dominant denomination of that is Joe Gibbs,
Speaker 3: and he he knows how to get his the most
Speaker 3: out of his player. It was a different type of
Speaker 3: player when he came back the second time around, it
Speaker 3: wasn't quite the same type of player. He didn't have
Speaker 3: same same type of control. Like practices were like a
Speaker 3: little different, you know, Like and because you know, we hit,
Speaker 3: we hit every day. We even you know, we put
Speaker 3: on shorts on Friday shorts and shoulder paths. But anytime
Speaker 3: you had shower pads on, we were going to hit.
Speaker 2: We hit, you know.
Speaker 3: So now like practices now, I can kind of see
Speaker 3: why defensive players tend to miss more tackles now because
Speaker 3: they don't actually hit in practice anymore. And that's it's
Speaker 3: kind of hard if you don't practice your craft to
Speaker 3: become great at it again. You know, I mean if
Speaker 3: I was being a coach would be a little different.
Speaker 3: I know, coach. As a coach, we can't tell you
Speaker 3: to do that. Well, what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: cut practice short by hour and a half, and I'm
Speaker 3: going to have my captains on the team, like Fressmoma,
Speaker 3: y'all got during Yeah, y'all go out during practice. Then
Speaker 3: they can do it. They won't do our own time.
Speaker 3: So go out there and get it done, because at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, the team seem to go
Speaker 3: the extra mile. Are the teams that win in this
Speaker 3: mark And I'm cuaranteeing the teams that we see that
Speaker 3: are winning super Bowls, they're doing something that's a little different.
Speaker 3: That's not by the roles. If you ain't cheating you
Speaker 3: ain't trying.
Speaker 2: You ain't trying, ain't we from the nineties, you learn
Speaker 2: a lot to a legend. That's a legend right.
Speaker 3: Now, that's been true. I mean think about it, like
Speaker 3: every play, somebody's cheating what it is, somebody's holding, somebody's
Speaker 3: pushing on just what it is? Like I mean, because
Speaker 3: he is such a good defensive back, there's gonna be
Speaker 3: a lot of times that he guess is right what
Speaker 3: I'm doing, and he's right on me, So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have to push him over open. There's times where he
Speaker 3: doesn't figure out what I'm doing. He's have to grab
Speaker 3: my hand and hold me. But it's not gonna look
Speaker 3: like a whole The key is mastering your craft. And
Speaker 3: a lot of people they don't master their craft anymore.
Speaker 3: They don't take the time to dig in to practice
Speaker 3: over and over and over again. So this this is
Speaker 3: a push off.
Speaker 2: You see that.
Speaker 3: You do not see that, You do not see this
Speaker 3: push off? Right, But takes time to master that because
Speaker 3: the're not you're gonna do that in the game and
Speaker 3: to see that.
Speaker 2: But see now I had got to the point I
Speaker 2: know you can't run without your own I used to
Speaker 2: grab but I used to swing with him, so I'm
Speaker 2: not swinging against him. To you, it looks like nothing.
Speaker 2: But then yes, but now if I grab it and
Speaker 2: don't run with him, it's gonna look like I'm holding.
Speaker 2: So this trick set of trade to get things done.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's exactly what it is. And that's that's
Speaker 3: the game of football, and that's what you love about it,
Speaker 3: you know you love that.
Speaker 2: I have to.
Speaker 3: I would have to sit down and really try to
Speaker 3: analyze how he played as a defensive back. You know
Speaker 3: I did that later end of my career. I should
Speaker 3: have did it, and the very started my career. My career,
Speaker 3: early part of my career was just so freaking Cocky's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: It's not fair. It's not fair. I didn't watch film.
Speaker 3: I didn't rewatch film probably until my seventh eighth year
Speaker 3: in the league.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 3: Be fair? I mean, but for me, if I had
Speaker 3: to give myself at age, you know how you gotta
Speaker 3: give yourself an I'd be like I got the girl
Speaker 3: away to play with a chip on my shoulder. Now
Speaker 3: I said, okay, now you didn't watch any film, but
Speaker 3: you so now you gotta go out there and you
Speaker 3: gotta play hard, you gotta give them a hundred percent.
Speaker 3: You gotta do your thing. But there was games I
Speaker 3: should have looked at the damn. I was like, this
Speaker 3: is not a good game, you know. But I think
Speaker 3: as a player, you gotta do whatever gives yourself that
Speaker 3: edge mentally that it allows you to play better. That
Speaker 3: for me, that's what it wasn't. You know what if
Speaker 3: I don't look at him, that means I gotta bring
Speaker 3: my best come son, you know, in terms of but
Speaker 3: I prepare because preparation is everything everything for a player
Speaker 3: to become like Fred don't want to be good. He
Speaker 3: wanted to be great. That's why he was a great cornerback,
Speaker 3: not just a good cornerback. If you just want to
Speaker 3: be good, you're gonna be good. You want to be great,
Speaker 3: you gotta work at it and you got to put
Speaker 3: in the time. Like when I see people, when you
Speaker 3: see practice is over and that feels nobody's on the field,
Speaker 3: they'll tell you everything you need. All right, now, I
Speaker 3: know if the team could be good at back.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And we started this all by saying this
Speaker 2: whole podcast by we were talking to Trail, what player
Speaker 2: loves football? Right, come. They come because they love you.
Speaker 2: Pay me later, I'll come to play some football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well played football as good as it gets.
Speaker 2: The National Football League, Super.
Speaker 1: Bowl Champion, Pro Bowler, All Pro Gary Clark.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. She should be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: But they seem to snub my guy. They seem to
Speaker 2: snub the Washington guy, the Jacobe's of the world, the
Speaker 2: Brian Mitchell's of the world. I don't know what this
Speaker 2: internal external hate for the Washington guys coming from, but
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to make a step forward to get
Speaker 2: these guys where they just do.
Speaker 3: Now. I'm just glad to be on y'all podcast. I
Speaker 3: appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate you. I don't know how you follow that.
Speaker 2: It's hard to follow break to follow greatness, but we
Speaker 2: do have to pay the bills. So we're gonna do
Speaker 2: that with handa. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So Commanders fans, Yeah, Yeah. Debate of the Week, Yes
Speaker 2: it is Johnny Manziel. I don't like Johnny Manziel, but
Speaker 2: he says, I don't like Johnny Football is a tail,
Speaker 2: like you know what. When he first hit the scene,
Speaker 2: I was like, he's been here before, you know how,
Speaker 2: Like Johnny Football. I feel like it's a tale from
Speaker 2: like the fifties, of this guy, of this lure. I
Speaker 2: think Johnny is a cautious tale.
Speaker 1: He is a cautionary tale, no question about that.
Speaker 2: So I think him being humbled by all this. I
Speaker 2: would love to see a Johnny Football redemption, similar to
Speaker 2: like Doug Flutie, Johnny Football goes to the Canadian League.
Speaker 2: He did go for a one no go play for
Speaker 2: five years re establish hisself. Some quarterback gets hurt with
Speaker 2: like three games left. This team brings in football football,
Speaker 2: takes that team to the Super Bowl and wins it. Listen,
Speaker 2: I just I always pray for people to like I
Speaker 2: like to see people rebound. Sure, that's my thing, and
Speaker 2: I would love to see him rebound.
Speaker 1: He says he's not going to attend this this Heisman
Speaker 1: get together. Yeah, because Reggie Bush has not received his
Speaker 1: Heisman because he was banned or from How to give
Speaker 1: that heisman back because the rules back when he was the.
Speaker 2: Winner of the Heisman trophy.
Speaker 1: And you are of the opinion that I disagreed that
Speaker 1: they need to give him.
Speaker 2: That man is trophy. He earned that trophy, all right.
Speaker 2: He took some money. Now it's legal to take money,
Speaker 2: so now he breaks no rules in the new rule
Speaker 2: pair And I know how you feel, but all I'm
Speaker 2: saying is with talking about the heisman that he earned,
Speaker 2: he earned that give that man his trophy tell us
Speaker 2: how you feel. I just listened.
Speaker 1: First of all, I should have gone Vince Young.
Speaker 2: That's my personal opinion.
Speaker 1: But Reggie Bush, Reggie Bush was incredible when he played,
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. So when he got the heisman,
Speaker 1: he earned the heisman. But he broke the rules at
Speaker 1: the time. And now people are saying, well, yeah, he
Speaker 1: didn't see Look at things are different now, yes, different now,
Speaker 1: but back then those were the rules.
Speaker 2: He broke. The old man alert. It is old man alert,
Speaker 2: old man alert. You know, and listen.
Speaker 1: I did some calculations, you know, the defensive rules frenchmood
Speaker 1: in the NBA. They are so much more relaxed now.
Speaker 1: They allow for so much more offensive scoring. I ran
Speaker 1: some some metrics and now Michael Jordan's should have averaged
Speaker 1: forty four points a game.
Speaker 2: So let's give Michael Jordan forty four points. The rules
Speaker 2: are rules, don't do that. All I'm saying is, at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I think people disagreed when
Speaker 2: it happened, and they showed disagree. Now get it, man,
Speaker 2: You know what you remind me of, Oh God, the
Speaker 2: o n Cuba, the faceless men like we never know them.
Speaker 2: You boys are gonna follow my rules or it's out.
Speaker 2: We're gonna see your jersey and give you nothing for it.
Speaker 2: You know what, We're gonna give you a scholarship, but
Speaker 2: I just made you twenty five million, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: give you free lunch. Right, that's who you are. Well, okay,
Speaker 2: let's win.
Speaker 1: Did the NFL start recording sacks like the late seventies? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like that?
Speaker 2: Well, you know what. I've gone through the.
Speaker 1: Tape and there's a guy who played for the Chicago Cardinals,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you one thing. Now, he gets the sack,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't counted back then. It's this is not
Speaker 1: personal to Reggie Bush. It's just I believe a slippery
Speaker 1: slope when you say, listen, now, things are different. Now
Speaker 1: that things are different, let's go back and change things
Speaker 1: from twenty thirty forty years ago, where the rules are
Speaker 1: completely different than they are now.
Speaker 2: Dirty old man alerty, dirty old well with the mustache
Speaker 2: might be.
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