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Speaker 1: Coming up on to Get Loud podcast. We have quarterback face.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we have Super Bowl champion Gary bah.

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Speaker 1: My god, you gotta stick around for that interview.

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Speaker 2: And what else do we have? Dirty old man alert,

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Speaker 2: Dirty old man alert.

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Speaker 1: I ain't doing guys, it has to Get Loud podcast

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Speaker 1: for is anybody seek geek the official taking partner of

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Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 2: That's smooth. I'm jinx fresh fresh off of vacation.

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Speaker 1: Looked hand up, face hand and creepy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those come getting But you say

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Speaker 2: your girl wanted you to throw them.

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Speaker 1: My girl said, please grow mustache, keep the stubble, let

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Speaker 1: your big or let your hair kind of go crazy.

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Speaker 1: Just keep this look for a while because I really

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Speaker 1: like it.

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Speaker 2: What about the mustache does she like? Because the mustache

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Speaker 2: is ran his turn the mustache? I agree, Like, I

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Speaker 2: think it's creepy to like, see a dude now and

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Speaker 2: he just got a mustage, just a mustache, step stash.

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Speaker 2: Where did they forcome creepy? Did it happen it like

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Speaker 2: the late two thousands or something, but just the mustang.

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Speaker 2: But no, if you're over fifty, you can't rock just

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Speaker 2: the mustache, right, I just said fifty.

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Speaker 1: I can do it. Now.

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Speaker 2: Do I look creepy? Do you want your kids around me?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: No, Everybody staying away from the guy with the mustache.

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Speaker 2: But the girl likes it, Hey, listen, And if she

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Speaker 2: likes it, I love it. That's the way it has

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Speaker 2: to be. The rumor is I don't remember this, but

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Speaker 2: the rumor is that you used to have a mustache,

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Speaker 2: weasel at the time. You know what, when I first

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Speaker 2: came out of college, because I always had the baby face.

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Speaker 2: And when you're young, you try to look older, and

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Speaker 2: when you're older, you're trying to look young. So with

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Speaker 2: that time, I was like, I need facial hair, but

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Speaker 2: I couldn't grow a beard. Yeah, at the time, it

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Speaker 2: was more like Paul Pierce in the Playoffs, you know,

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Speaker 2: it was very spoty. I couldn't do it. So I

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Speaker 2: just grew the mustache. And then one day I was

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Speaker 2: looking in the mirror and I was ashamed of myself.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever looked in the mimble visually? I'm the

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Speaker 2: same say what am I doing?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing with this mustache? So then I

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Speaker 2: just cut it off and then I started going military style,

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Speaker 2: just clean face, yep. And that seemed to be good

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Speaker 2: for me. But every wintertime I grew a beard, okay

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Speaker 2: for my mom. You know, no shave, November cancer. You know,

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Speaker 2: I grow my beard, but then I cut it right

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Speaker 2: I can grow a full beard, Yes I can. Oh,

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Speaker 2: yes I can. That's when I turned to my alter ego,

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Speaker 2: Smoothers Smooth's album. See you don't want to see Smoogers.

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Speaker 2: I'm different than listen. I'm different with that beard. Now

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Speaker 2: you know what I can say this about a beard? Okay,

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Speaker 2: it go with a soup. Oh and bener and style too.

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Speaker 2: When did it happen? When did women just say, you

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Speaker 2: know what lumberjacks we want all down? And men? I

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Speaker 2: did the men say you know what beards are? Back end?

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Speaker 2: Because I don't know when it happened. I just remember

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Speaker 2: it flipping, and I remember I wasn't cool anymore because

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Speaker 2: I don't rock a beard right. And then now I'm

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Speaker 2: in the elevator going to like the tenth floor. Some

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, hair for some men, so

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Speaker 2: some men not. I would like to get a poll

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Speaker 2: on how women really feel about beards. Do they love them,

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Speaker 2: do they like them? They just okay?

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're a lady in the comments, but in

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Speaker 1: Thing that you are good at is evaluating talent. When

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Speaker 1: I was on vacation, this was in the comments. This

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Speaker 1: Or is Fred Smooth actually a better player evaluator than Logan?

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Speaker 1: And someone else responded and I've been singing for months

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Speaker 1: now Fred is way better evaluating players.

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Speaker 2: Thank you fans for telling the truth. Now Logan is

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Speaker 2: very good, but this is your chance, but he're gonna

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Speaker 2: think about it. You don't go to a restaurant because

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Speaker 2: it's very good. You go to great restaurants, right, and

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Speaker 2: you talk about talent evaluation. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: when I look for a football player, it's more than

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Speaker 2: the forty is more than the bench press. Do you

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Speaker 2: love the game of football? And then if I can

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Speaker 2: find two or three things that I feel like that'll

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Speaker 2: Now it's all about what system do you get into

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Speaker 2: right now? After that? Like as high as I was

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Speaker 2: on Deebo Samuels when he came out, I knew he

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Speaker 2: down these guys. The combine was they blew it away

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Speaker 2: this weekend, Yes, Like the combine was crazy. So watching

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Speaker 2: do what they did, the DB's ran up out of there.

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Speaker 2: Right I'm talking about four three, four fours. Everywhere the

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Speaker 2: athletes are doing what everything else on earth does. They

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Speaker 2: So now it's all about who could play within these

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Speaker 2: we loved the game of football?

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Speaker 1: You said something that I always think is interesting, which

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Speaker 1: good that they're like, I'm great at football, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, And you know players that love it because

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Speaker 2: contracts don't matter to them. Like you see some players

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Speaker 2: they don't love the game. Right. They're good at the game,

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Speaker 2: they got paid for the game, but they don't love it.

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Speaker 2: Like I was always told this, if you love something

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Speaker 2: and you love put love in it, it'll love you back. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, like what, most players don't love practice?

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Speaker 2: Why do It's another day of playing football. I love

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Speaker 2: We're getting paid as grown men to play a game.

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Speaker 2: I play a children's game. I better enjoy it with

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into the combine and what we say.

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Speaker 1: Awesome players, maybe on the rise, baby got to it's

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Speaker 2: But what was your comedy experience?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: First of all, I was part of that at one

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Speaker 2: daffing people up, talking to people. I did my interviews.

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Speaker 2: I really didn't do nothing at to come by. But

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Speaker 2: I did the bench press one time, baby, one thrust.

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Speaker 2: There you go, rack them, dude, I told to rack them.

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Speaker 2: Y'all is not come here for a bodybuilder. You came

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Speaker 2: here for a football player. I'm a grass athlete. Show

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Speaker 2: I'll show you some players watch me run. I was

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Speaker 2: any rate. They canna find out everything about you and

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Speaker 2: the comebine like it's the most intrusive, Like they know

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Speaker 2: everything from your blood type. We literally sit in the

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Speaker 2: down to the nitty gritty and do what I say, Like,

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Speaker 2: sometimes I don't think the combine is fair in it, right,

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Speaker 1: And also there's an interview process.

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Speaker 2: They want to get to know you. And guess what

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Speaker 2: this is. How the interview looks. See these cameras out here,

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Speaker 2: the GM sitting right there, the head coach sitting right

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Speaker 2: there with the caramonia, Fred God, Fred Smooth? What happened

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Speaker 2: on Mississippi State campus two thousand of May the second

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Speaker 2: I went to a frat party and it was jumping.

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Speaker 2: So they know these factual things about you, and they

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Speaker 2: want to see you talk about these things. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: ask some of the weirdest questions like this one, Fred Smooth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened to that buttercake you made over the weekend?

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Speaker 2: It was drunken? Oh okay, and I lost to Zach

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Speaker 2: Selby Man. I lost the cookoff and it hurt so bad.

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Speaker 2: See the thing about it, he went ooey gouie like

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Speaker 2: that was in my spring loaded pan. I tried to

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Speaker 2: make it higher. I tried to make it steakhouse quality.

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Speaker 2: I feel short in doing it. Feel short. We'll be back,

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Speaker 2: but I'll be back. Don't worry about it. Hey. The

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Speaker 2: one thing about it, I'm young, jeezy when I come

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Speaker 2: to that of and then they're kitchen and them possing

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Speaker 2: and pays.

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Speaker 1: So you watched a lot of the combine. I watched

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Speaker 1: some of it as well. Who is a player or

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Speaker 1: two that you watched, and certainly what they did in

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Speaker 1: college stands out on the field, but that really stood

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Speaker 1: out to you moneymakers of the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's start off with one guy, JJ McCarty. Listen

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Speaker 2: to me, Not only does he have quarterback face. Now

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Speaker 2: you know my terms of quarterback face. Do you understand that.

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. I just don't see him staying in Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Like in the world of the Giants, they stinky, But

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Speaker 2: football sports names give us something to live up to. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you tell me, here'll come. Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: You mean fidelities like Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. I've met ninety nine Daniel Jones on my

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Speaker 2: a thousand dann Daniel Jones is fred nice to me?

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Speaker 2: they don't feel like JJ McCarthy. Here comes JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 2: No, he will be. It's gonna be there. He will

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Speaker 2: Would you take JJ McCarthy at six? Sometimes I was

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones has shown you one thing. My best year,

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Speaker 2: I ain't never gonna stop nobody from getting no contract, right,

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Speaker 2: count that money. But if you're a Giants fan right now,

431
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Speaker 2: you can't tell me you wouldn't rather have Michael Pennix

432
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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy and take their uh, let them take their

433
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Speaker 2: bumps and watch them go through their bruises. Then you

434
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Speaker 2: will watch Daniel Jones, a guy that'd been in the

435
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Speaker 2: league for five to six years.

436
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Speaker 1: How much of that is due to the Giants? I

437
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: mean offensively, they just don't They have Saquon. Their line

438
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Speaker 1: is bad, They don't have.

439
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Speaker 2: A lot of talent. So who they got he a

440
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Speaker 2: free agent? Well, right, they couldn't take you.

441
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Speaker 1: But I'm saying if you're looking at Daniel Jones in

442
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Speaker 1: the past couple years, right, like he's had Saquon there, Yeah,

443
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Speaker 1: banged up, but they don't have a lot of offensive tools.

444
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Speaker 1: So how much of that do you chalk up to

445
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Speaker 1: the Giants just being sold more bund offense?

446
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Speaker 2: Hey, we we can't do that, Jenks don't do that.

447
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Speaker 2: Don't see, I'm gonna make it. I dont think he's

448
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Speaker 2: a great quarterback. They called it making an excuse for

449
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,239
Speaker 2: your kids. If your kids bad, they probably because you're

450
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: a bad parent. At the end of the day. No,

451
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Speaker 2: you can't make an excuse for him because I just

452
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: watched past the home take his team to the Super

453
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Speaker 2: Bowl and win it with a seventh round wide receive.

454
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Speaker 2: I mean a running back, a thirty five year old

455
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Speaker 2: tight end and nobody at wide receiver at quarterback, Are

456
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Speaker 2: you a dude or are you a force multiplier? A

457
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: force multiplier makes those around him better. Yeah, Daniel Jones

458
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: don't make anybody better. He's not a force multiplier. He's

459
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Speaker 2: a dude. Yes, that's it. I think they want to

460
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Speaker 2: They understand you got Dak, you got Jalen Hurts, and

461
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: come on, Washington got the number two pick, and you

462
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: got Daniel Jones. So I'm asking you, no, I don't

463
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Speaker 2: believe in Daniel Jones.

464
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious because it's all relative, right, Like, even

465
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Speaker 1: behind an incredible offensive line, I don't think he's some

466
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Speaker 1: sort of top tier quarterback. I'm saying, on a bad

467
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Speaker 1: football team. How much does that play into any sort

468
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Speaker 1: of evaluation of any quarterback? Like how much better would

469
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Speaker 1: he be behind the great offensive line?

470
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Speaker 2: So much better? Or just still a dude? I think

471
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Speaker 2: he's still a dude. I don't think it's anything special

472
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Speaker 2: about Daniel Jones. Where Like if I told you to

473
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Speaker 2: close your eyes and give me the just guess a

474
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Speaker 2: quarterback that might have a chance to be in the

475
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl in the next five years. I wouldn't guess

476
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Speaker 2: that's not coming out. No, not a Daniel Jones led

477
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Speaker 2: Giants team, Right, you don't think that. I don't think that.

478
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Speaker 2: I would say Bryce Young before I say that, because

479
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Speaker 2: I know he did have a terrible team and he

480
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Speaker 2: a rookie. Yes, rookie, go have an I'm fine with that.

481
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Speaker 2: But I like insanity doing the same thing over and

482
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Speaker 2: over again, inspecting a different resort. I think that's what

483
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: the Giants are doing right now. I think it's regular. Like, like,

484
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Speaker 2: this is one thing in sports you really never want

485
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Speaker 2: to be. You never want to be in mediocrity, correct

486
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 2: and stuck in that. That's where they are. This is

487
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Speaker 2: where they are. Like you either want to like be

488
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Speaker 2: at the top or at the bottom. At least you

489
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Speaker 2: got a direction you going up? Are you trying to

490
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Speaker 2: stay there?

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Speaker 1: Right?

492
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Speaker 2: They're right here in the middle. Yes, eight and nine,

493
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: that's where they are. Seven and nine.

494
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Speaker 1: Well whatever, I feel like that's how the Vikings have

495
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Speaker 1: been with Kirk Cousins for years. I mean, I'm not

496
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Speaker 1: trying to change the conversation. I'm just saying, if you're

497
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Speaker 1: talking about being stuck in mediocrity, look, Kirk is obviously

498
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Speaker 1: Kirk co Chains much better quarterback than Jones, is good

499
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Speaker 1: enough to take him next level, know, which is why

500
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Speaker 1: for years the Vikings just kind of sitting there churning

501
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Speaker 1: winning some regular season games.

502
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Speaker 2: It was never a playoff threat, but never a playoff threat.

503
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Speaker 1: And just you know what, You're gonna have a fine

504
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Speaker 1: regular season, You're gonna lose in the playoffs, and you

505
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: know what, You're next year the very same thing. And

506
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to say it's time for a chance, and.

507
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Speaker 2: You're gonna pay him. Like the one thing I can

508
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: say about Kurt, he is one of the best accounts

509
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Speaker 2: out there with he know how to cast some checks now,

510
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Speaker 2: but you're not going to get past the first round

511
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Speaker 2: of the playoffs with Kirk Cousins. Is your quarterback? Correct?

512
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Speaker 2: It's proven. I don't this ain't no. If I'm not

513
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Speaker 2: guessing right, this is who he is.

514
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna become a different player coming off of

515
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Speaker 1: a killer his injury at thirty six.

516
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Speaker 2: He's not right. But guess what, eight billion people on

517
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Speaker 2: this planet. We haven't found thirty two people that can

518
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Speaker 2: play quarterback at the same time, do y'all understand the numbers?

519
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Speaker 2: I just said eight billion? We can't find thirty two

520
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 2: people to be good at the quarterback at the same time,

521
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Speaker 2: imagine that everybody eighty nine, everybody eighty eight. Imagine just

522
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Speaker 2: a duel. Every time you shure, what, no, we haven't

523
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: found that. We never find that. Here's something hard to

524
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Speaker 2: find dual sport athletes.

525
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Speaker 1: And I am reading, yeah, that you were almost a

526
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Speaker 1: walk on basketball player.

527
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Speaker 2: I was. I was always built like a basketball player.

528
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: Don't you think I was never built like a football player?

529
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Speaker 1: Right? If I get if I didn't know you like

530
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Speaker 1: he played basketball.

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Speaker 2: Basketball always built and basketball helped me in football. Father

532
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: is a lot, but basketball was my theme for a

533
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Speaker 2: long time. But I also played both sports. And Randalo

534
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 2: was at Indiana at the time. Randaleo was dual sports.

535
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: Randalo played quarterback for the football team, point going for

536
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Speaker 2: the basketball team.

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Speaker 1: I remember playing quarterback. I got you play basket.

538
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Speaker 2: He played part guard. So they was like, we'll let

539
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Speaker 2: both of you play if you come here. And they

540
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: was like, not only are we gonna let you play

541
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Speaker 2: basketball and football, We're gonna let you play cornerback. And

542
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Speaker 2: why we want you to partner with ill on the offense. Oh,

543
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Speaker 2: they were trying to get you man oh I left Indiana,

544
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Speaker 2: told my mama, I am going to Indiana. I'm about

545
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Speaker 2: to be a Hoosier. I was so Coach Cam. Coach

546
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Speaker 2: Cam Cameron was the coach at the time he came

547
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Speaker 2: to the Pro three years later. I was going to

548
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Speaker 2: be a part of that team. And it had a

549
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: lot to do with the duo, all the stuff that

550
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Speaker 2: they was gonna let me do. And I know you

551
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Speaker 2: shocked that I had the grace to get into Indiana.

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Speaker 1: I know.

553
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Speaker 2: I see Anna behind that, like, yes, I was dead intelligence,

554
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: Yes it was there. But speaking of duel guys, it's

555
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: been a lot of guys that I think people forget about.

556
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: That was two sports stars. That's right. Julius Peppers played

557
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Speaker 2: North Carolina hoops. You know how good.

558
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: You gotta be the good player, a good player.

559
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Speaker 2: Then you got a guy like Tony Gonzalez who actually hooped,

560
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Speaker 2: like did both of them extensively, and he was the star,

561
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: owned the basketball. He was the man.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why he got drafted. So

563
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Speaker 1: how they said, have you seen this kid on a

564
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Speaker 1: court court?

565
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Speaker 2: Yes, So people forget about Tony Gonzalez. Bo Jackson gotta

566
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Speaker 2: throw him out. Bo nos Like the thing about bow is,

567
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Speaker 2: do you think with no injury, is he the biggest

568
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Speaker 2: what if in NFL history? If he if he don't

569
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Speaker 2: get hurt, is he the all time? Leaning Russia? Not

570
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Speaker 2: Barry saying, I mean not Immage Smith, because I think so.

571
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Speaker 1: Watching him play you see more of his baseball hellots

572
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Speaker 1: and footballs. But man, he was just a force. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything. I've never seen a combination after that.

574
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Speaker 2: Ever, you got Charlie Ward, the Heisman Trophy winner that

575
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Speaker 2: not only wins the Heisman, gets drafted in the NBA,

576
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Speaker 2: never plays football in the pros. All right, Then you

577
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: got everybody forget about bj Brian Jordan. That's a good call.

578
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: Brian Jordan played cornerback with Prime and then they would

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Speaker 2: and go play last they did. Everybody forget about Brian Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Terrell oins. People don't understand that Chattanooga he hooped, he

581
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Speaker 2: would go like he played both sports at Chattanooga. People

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Speaker 2: don't forget that about t O. Now I know that

583
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Speaker 2: Jason's campbell my quarterback. That's my quarterback. People don't understand

584
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Speaker 2: Jason got drafted out of high school as a picture.

585
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Speaker 2: Did it really got off of the scholarship football and

586
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Speaker 2: basketball to Auburn. Yes he was a three sport guy.

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Speaker 1: one of the greats to ever play receiver for this organization.

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Speaker 2: How are you the man the mill the legends. See,

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Speaker 2: you know what when we want to get winners in

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Speaker 2: the buildings. See the one thing about us We played football,

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Speaker 2: but we ain't mean nothing.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: See, I ain't the head yields, I ain't the same

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Speaker 2: head coaches here and we still couldn't win nothing. But

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Speaker 2: we here right now with the Super Bowl Champ, the

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Speaker 2: one and only. Gary. Thank you for coming to the show,

616
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Speaker 2: my brother.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys for having me. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You know what was funny is that you sat down

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Speaker 1: about thirty seconds and Smooth was already talking about matchups.

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Speaker 2: Immediately competitive like we like to talk to traans to

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Speaker 2: each other. So we brought up a scenario one day,

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Speaker 2: I think we was in the lunch room. Dad here

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Speaker 2: was here, and we said, what would have happened with

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Speaker 2: the matchup with me Champ Bailey and dere Green okay

625
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Speaker 2: versus Ricky Sanders, Gary Clark, Art Monk. All right, Now,

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Speaker 2: I didn't say who their quarterback was.

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Speaker 3: They had it wouldn't matter.

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Speaker 2: How you think that matchup?

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Speaker 3: Go, now, we were multi them super Bowls with different quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: It's all good, man.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think we got a chance with

632
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Speaker 2: y'all to know, you just give us some problems.

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Speaker 3: I mean, y'all would have got us prepared for the

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Speaker 3: super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we ain't going to the super Bowl with y'all.

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Speaker 3: Y'all got us prepared.

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Speaker 1: You would have helped us on the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: But no, seriously, though, I mean, you guys men and

639
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Speaker 3: man skills were off the charts. You know, I got

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Speaker 3: a chance to watch you guys play. They get a

641
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Speaker 3: chance to play against your of course, but I got

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Speaker 3: a chance to watch you guys played and just to

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Speaker 3: see how you guys would handle the different receivers and

644
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Speaker 3: quite talented receivers that came after we had left the game.

645
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: And no, you guys are excellent, excellent cornerbacks. I mean

646
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: one percent. You guys could definitely talk trash and back

647
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: it up the majority of the time. I mean a posse,

648
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: that's the whole that that's kind of picking your poison.

649
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: Everybody list all three defensive backs would have to be

650
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: on point that game. Yeah, you know, because typically that's

651
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: every now and then, you know, like it's not like

652
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: we always had great games every game that we played,

653
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: but there was gonna be one or two of us

654
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: that it was always going to come out and shine

655
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: because you know, they weren't getting doubled that day, you know,

656
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: So if you didn't double with me, I took it

657
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: as I took it as an insult, as you should.

658
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I took it as an insult, and and

659
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: it just made it worse for that team, quite honestly,

660
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: because you know, especially if you're doubling with a safety,

661
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: if you're double them with two good cornerbacks, that's different.

662
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: Like like say like your your main cornerback and then

663
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: you're a fifth man coming in. You know, that's different.

664
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: But you try to double with a corner and a safety, yeah,

665
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: I say safe safety. Safety. Safety is not used to covering.

666
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: They don't cover.

667
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they're not no. One on one type

668
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: of thing. They're always back there. They got that cushion

669
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: between them. So if I ever get head up with

670
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: you and your safety, yeah, the game's over. It's different.

671
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: If you're a cornerback, you know how to treat they

672
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: they're know how to retreat. They know how to cheat.

673
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: They know how to hold, they're notw to do just

674
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 3: like and we know how to push off. We know

675
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: how to do all those sames safeties. They're never in

676
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 3: that situation typically.

677
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you this to one of your

678
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: teams got voted the most complete team of all time?

679
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: All right. I don't know if you.

680
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 3: Saw the probably did not even super Bowl.

681
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: And I was about to ask you about that. I

682
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: teams you played on. You played on some damn good teams.

683
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 2: Which one was the most complete?

684
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: To you? Now? I know what.

685
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: I know what the magazine and ESPN voted on. Which

686
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: one was the most complete team? Where you you felt

687
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: like every time, y'all when the first quarter, baill run y'all,

688
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: you're like, this is already over.

689
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: I'd probably have to say the ninety one I probably

690
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: have to say the ninety one team, just because we

691
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: started off so strong. You know, we could spot you

692
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: a lead and then just come and take it away,

693
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: you know, like we And the biggest reason I felt

694
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: that way is no matter even the games that we

695
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: lost lay honest, which really was only Dallas. He thought

696
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: we lost against Philadelphia too, but Joe pulled out. He

697
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: had pulled off the starters out of the game because

698
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 3: of the playoff situation. But we never thought we was

699
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: out of a game. And that's I mean, that's I

700
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: don't care if it could have been forty to nothing

701
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, yeah, but eight minutes left, we

702
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: still would think we'd win the football game. And it's

703
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: just our mindset was that way. And when you got

704
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: defenses who was just shutting everybody down, and then you

705
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 3: got an offense that can store thirty points in a

706
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 3: quarter if they need to, Yeah, that's the hard combination

707
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: to beat right there. And we just for some reason

708
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: that year, everything was all cylinders. We didn't have injuries,

709
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: everybody was healthy. You know, we went into it. I mean,

710
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: quite honestly, we should have went undefeated that season. I'm

711
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: so mad that we didn't go undefeated because everybody wants

712
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 3: the perfect record. Everybody's chasing the Dolphins, everybody the Patriots

713
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: the most important game. But uh but yeah, I mean

714
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: we thought it was going to have it that way,

715
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 3: and we probably was a little cocky. Probably. Yeah, the lost. Honestly,

716
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: the lost might have been looking could have been good

717
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: because it brought us back to reality. We were we

718
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: were like, I mean, we're always ready. Always were kind

719
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: of a little bit cocky as a team, you know.

720
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: I mean I remember in my first Super Bowl with

721
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: the Hogs. I mean they're telling the Broncos what plays

722
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: we're going to run. You know, they're so confident, man,

723
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: they may letting them know what it is. And so

724
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: initially I was like, God, so crazy what you're doing.

725
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: That's one of my third year in the league, right, yeah,

726
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, don't be quiet, you know. But about about

727
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: four fifth year and I'm saying, I'm telling Dv's what

728
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to do, you know, because TeV don't know

729
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: if I'm telling the truth lying. Yeah, But then what

730
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: you know is that when you do do it, and

731
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: then they see that you did do what you said,

732
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: you was a good mess with their psyche. The next

733
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: time you play Oh yeah, so the next time you

734
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: play them, I'm going to lie to you at that time. Yeah,

735
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to lie to you and tell

736
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 3: run some time around. I'm telling run a posma around corner.

737
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: The way the game has changed now where it's such

738
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: a pass happy league, the quarterback is so predicted and

739
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: we see offenses just explode. You look back and say, man,

740
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: if I was playing today, my numbers mid your numbers

741
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: were already incredible back then. In today's game, I feel

742
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: like they'd be even bigger than they work.

743
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: The field is open, yes it was. It was closed

744
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: when he played because they were knocking pep out.

745
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're getting headaches, you know. And they bought me

746
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 3: in to be the guy to go across the middle

747
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: of the field. So my initial my first fight, that's

748
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: what me. I'm taking that fifteen yard square ending that slant.

749
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 3: I was getting headaches every week because I was getting

750
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: the crap knocked out there to do it. But you know,

751
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 3: that was like my little niche that I was able

752
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: to do and be able to turn into other things.

753
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: But if I was playing in today's game, But the

754
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 3: amount of times that they throw the rock, yeah, tig.

755
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: I mean, like Terry's finally breaking some of my records now,

756
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: but those records are all thirty years old. Yeah, I mean, so,

757
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: I mean if I was playing now, where I'm going

758
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: to catch a hundred balls a year? Yeah, more than

759
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 3: one hundred balls a year, come on now. Yeah, Okay,

760
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: we came in. We came in the league when it

761
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: was a when I first came into the league, fifty

762
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: catches was the thing, Like, you got fifty catches, she

763
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: was considered a good receiver. Yeah, you know, and then

764
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: you know Shouston in Buffalo. Yeah, and then we turned

765
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: from like a run first team because Joe has always

766
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: been a run first, throw second team. We ended up

767
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: turning it. But he's also looks at his personnel. That's

768
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: what I loved about Joe, Like he looks at his

769
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: personnel and did it slowly. After the eighty seventh when

770
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: we got to about around eighty nineteen eighty nine, it

771
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: was throw pass set up to run. Our running backs

772
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: still got a thousand yar yes, yeah, but because they

773
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 3: thought we was going to throw the ball three downs

774
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 3: out of the four downs, you know, so it started.

775
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: You know, we had we had a Joe was just

776
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: brilliant and how he mastered that offense. I mean, this

777
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: was unbelievable what we could do with it. And he

778
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 3: also allowed us to we want to make a change

779
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: in the game. Better work, Yeah, that'll work. But it worked.

780
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, I brought up to the quarterback. We never

781
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: brought it up to Joe. We brought it up during

782
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 3: the game to the quarterbacks, and then the quarterbacks would

783
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: have to agree to it, of course, But you know,

784
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: it's like anything else. We're the players, like for example,

785
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: you're the def it's a back then you know if

786
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 3: they call a zone, but you know that you can

787
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: shut me down, you're gonna go and shut me down,

788
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: just going to I mean so, but you need a

789
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: coach that allows you to do those things and don't

790
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: and then you're not gonna be right every time, you know.

791
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 3: But he doesn't hold that against you, and he still

792
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: allows you to go out there and play your game.

793
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: And that's what I loved about Joe. He allowed you know,

794
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: he probably hated me. He told me, I hate you

795
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 3: Monday through Saturday. I love you on Sundays, you know so,

796
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: But he's just he was just a magical coach. And

797
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: you find coaches like that. Eventually you win Super Bowl.

798
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: Here, I played in FedEx Field. You watched a million

799
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: games field, but you played it rifk Uh. I'm sure

800
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: it's a stark difference in them. Could you paint a picture.

801
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: Could you take me on a Sunday afternoon and and

802
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: just described to me how it feels, maybe even from

803
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: the drive in, like take me to r f K

804
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: and it made it so special.

805
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: We truly had a twelve man It was unbelievable. I mean,

806
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: you come into the stadium and for the most part,

807
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: there is no other color jersey in your stadium. Like

808
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: for example, when we need the crowd the defense, I mean,

809
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 3: the offense has a ball on the other team, our

810
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: crowd is loud. And when our offense has a team

811
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: sold yeah, we get stuff into it. I mean it

812
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: was unbelievable. And I mean the fans, I mean we

813
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: had like something like an eighty thousand waiting list. We're

814
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: sold out. We're sold out. It was still sold out

815
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: before I got there. Yeah, you know. And and again.

816
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 3: But when Joe came back to FedEx Field and Fedxfield

817
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: got a common dominant denomination of that is Joe Gibbs,

818
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 3: and he he knows how to get his the most

819
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: out of his player. It was a different type of

820
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: player when he came back the second time around, it

821
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: wasn't quite the same type of player. He didn't have

822
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: same same type of control. Like practices were like a

823
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: little different, you know, Like and because you know, we hit,

824
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: we hit every day. We even you know, we put

825
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: on shorts on Friday shorts and shoulder paths. But anytime

826
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: you had shower pads on, we were going to hit.

827
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: We hit, you know.

828
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: So now like practices now, I can kind of see

829
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: why defensive players tend to miss more tackles now because

830
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 3: they don't actually hit in practice anymore. And that's it's

831
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: kind of hard if you don't practice your craft to

832
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: become great at it again. You know, I mean if

833
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 3: I was being a coach would be a little different.

834
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: I know, coach. As a coach, we can't tell you

835
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 3: to do that. Well, what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna

836
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: cut practice short by hour and a half, and I'm

837
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: going to have my captains on the team, like Fressmoma,

838
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: y'all got during Yeah, y'all go out during practice. Then

839
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: they can do it. They won't do our own time.

840
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: So go out there and get it done, because at

841
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: the end of the day, the team seem to go

842
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: the extra mile. Are the teams that win in this

843
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: mark And I'm cuaranteeing the teams that we see that

844
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: are winning super Bowls, they're doing something that's a little different.

845
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 3: That's not by the roles. If you ain't cheating you

846
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 3: ain't trying.

847
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: You ain't trying, ain't we from the nineties, you learn

848
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 2: a lot to a legend. That's a legend right.

849
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: Now, that's been true. I mean think about it, like

850
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: every play, somebody's cheating what it is, somebody's holding, somebody's

851
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: pushing on just what it is? Like I mean, because

852
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: he is such a good defensive back, there's gonna be

853
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: a lot of times that he guess is right what

854
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: I'm doing, and he's right on me, So I'm gonna

855
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: have to push him over open. There's times where he

856
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: doesn't figure out what I'm doing. He's have to grab

857
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 3: my hand and hold me. But it's not gonna look

858
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: like a whole The key is mastering your craft. And

859
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: a lot of people they don't master their craft anymore.

860
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: They don't take the time to dig in to practice

861
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: over and over and over again. So this this is

862
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: a push off.

863
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: You see that.

864
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: You do not see that, You do not see this

865
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: push off? Right, But takes time to master that because

866
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: the're not you're gonna do that in the game and

867
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 3: to see that.

868
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: But see now I had got to the point I

869
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: know you can't run without your own I used to

870
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: grab but I used to swing with him, so I'm

871
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: not swinging against him. To you, it looks like nothing.

872
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: But then yes, but now if I grab it and

873
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: don't run with him, it's gonna look like I'm holding.

874
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: So this trick set of trade to get things done.

875
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's exactly what it is. And that's that's

876
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: the game of football, and that's what you love about it,

877
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: you know you love that.

878
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: I have to.

879
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: I would have to sit down and really try to

880
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 3: analyze how he played as a defensive back. You know

881
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: I did that later end of my career. I should

882
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: have did it, and the very started my career. My career,

883
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: early part of my career was just so freaking Cocky's ridiculous.

884
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: It's not fair. It's not fair. I didn't watch film.

885
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: I didn't rewatch film probably until my seventh eighth year

886
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 3: in the league.

887
00:44:59,160 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: Is that right?

888
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: Be fair? I mean, but for me, if I had

889
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: to give myself at age, you know how you gotta

890
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: give yourself an I'd be like I got the girl

891
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: away to play with a chip on my shoulder. Now

892
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: I said, okay, now you didn't watch any film, but

893
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: you so now you gotta go out there and you

894
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: gotta play hard, you gotta give them a hundred percent.

895
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: You gotta do your thing. But there was games I

896
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: should have looked at the damn. I was like, this

897
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: is not a good game, you know. But I think

898
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: as a player, you gotta do whatever gives yourself that

899
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: edge mentally that it allows you to play better. That

900
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 3: for me, that's what it wasn't. You know what if

901
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: I don't look at him, that means I gotta bring

902
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: my best come son, you know, in terms of but

903
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: I prepare because preparation is everything everything for a player

904
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: to become like Fred don't want to be good. He

905
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 3: wanted to be great. That's why he was a great cornerback,

906
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Speaker 3: not just a good cornerback. If you just want to

907
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 3: be good, you're gonna be good. You want to be great,

908
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: you gotta work at it and you got to put

909
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: in the time. Like when I see people, when you

910
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: see practice is over and that feels nobody's on the field,

911
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: they'll tell you everything you need. All right, now, I

912
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 3: know if the team could be good at back.

913
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And we started this all by saying this

914
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Speaker 2: whole podcast by we were talking to Trail, what player

915
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: loves football? Right, come. They come because they love you.

916
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Speaker 2: Pay me later, I'll come to play some football.

917
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well played football as good as it gets.

918
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Speaker 2: The National Football League, Super.

919
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: Bowl Champion, Pro Bowler, All Pro Gary Clark.

920
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. She should be in the Hall of Fame.

921
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: But they seem to snub my guy. They seem to

922
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: snub the Washington guy, the Jacobe's of the world, the

923
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: Brian Mitchell's of the world. I don't know what this

924
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: internal external hate for the Washington guys coming from, but

925
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to make a step forward to get

926
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: these guys where they just do.

927
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Speaker 3: Now. I'm just glad to be on y'all podcast. I

928
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: appreciate you.

929
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Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate you. I don't know how you follow that.

930
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: It's hard to follow break to follow greatness, but we

931
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: do have to pay the bills. So we're gonna do

932
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Speaker 2: that with handa. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Commanders fans, Yeah, Yeah. Debate of the Week, Yes

949
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: it is Johnny Manziel. I don't like Johnny Manziel, but

950
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 2: he says, I don't like Johnny Football is a tail,

951
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: like you know what. When he first hit the scene,

952
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: I was like, he's been here before, you know how,

953
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: Like Johnny Football. I feel like it's a tale from

954
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: like the fifties, of this guy, of this lure. I

955
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: think Johnny is a cautious tale.

956
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: He is a cautionary tale, no question about that.

957
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: So I think him being humbled by all this. I

958
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: would love to see a Johnny Football redemption, similar to

959
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: like Doug Flutie, Johnny Football goes to the Canadian League.

960
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: He did go for a one no go play for

961
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Speaker 2: five years re establish hisself. Some quarterback gets hurt with

962
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 2: like three games left. This team brings in football football,

963
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 2: takes that team to the Super Bowl and wins it. Listen,

964
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Speaker 2: I just I always pray for people to like I

965
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: like to see people rebound. Sure, that's my thing, and

966
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Speaker 2: I would love to see him rebound.

967
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Speaker 1: He says he's not going to attend this this Heisman

968
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: get together. Yeah, because Reggie Bush has not received his

969
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: Heisman because he was banned or from How to give

970
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: that heisman back because the rules back when he was the.

971
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Speaker 2: Winner of the Heisman trophy.

972
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Speaker 1: And you are of the opinion that I disagreed that

973
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Speaker 1: they need to give him.

974
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Speaker 2: That man is trophy. He earned that trophy, all right.

975
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Speaker 2: He took some money. Now it's legal to take money,

976
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: so now he breaks no rules in the new rule

977
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Speaker 2: pair And I know how you feel, but all I'm

978
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Speaker 2: saying is with talking about the heisman that he earned,

979
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Speaker 2: he earned that give that man his trophy tell us

980
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Speaker 2: how you feel. I just listened.

981
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Speaker 1: First of all, I should have gone Vince Young.

982
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Speaker 2: That's my personal opinion.

983
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: But Reggie Bush, Reggie Bush was incredible when he played,

984
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Speaker 1: There's no question about that. So when he got the heisman,

985
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Speaker 1: he earned the heisman. But he broke the rules at

986
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Speaker 1: the time. And now people are saying, well, yeah, he

987
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: didn't see Look at things are different now, yes, different now,

988
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: but back then those were the rules.

989
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Speaker 2: He broke. The old man alert. It is old man alert,

990
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 2: old man alert. You know, and listen.

991
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: I did some calculations, you know, the defensive rules frenchmood

992
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: in the NBA. They are so much more relaxed now.

993
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 1: They allow for so much more offensive scoring. I ran

994
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: some some metrics and now Michael Jordan's should have averaged

995
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Speaker 1: forty four points a game.

996
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 2: So let's give Michael Jordan forty four points. The rules

997
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: are rules, don't do that. All I'm saying is, at

998
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Speaker 2: the end of the day, I think people disagreed when

999
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: it happened, and they showed disagree. Now get it, man,

1000
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Speaker 2: You know what you remind me of, Oh God, the

1001
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: o n Cuba, the faceless men like we never know them.

1002
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: You boys are gonna follow my rules or it's out.

1003
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna see your jersey and give you nothing for it.

1004
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: You know what, We're gonna give you a scholarship, but

1005
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: I just made you twenty five million, and we're gonna

1006
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: give you free lunch. Right, that's who you are. Well, okay,

1007
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: let's win.

1008
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Speaker 1: Did the NFL start recording sacks like the late seventies? Yeah?

1009
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Speaker 1: Like that?

1010
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Speaker 2: Well, you know what. I've gone through the.

1011
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Speaker 1: Tape and there's a guy who played for the Chicago Cardinals,

1012
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you one thing. Now, he gets the sack,

1013
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: but it wasn't counted back then. It's this is not

1014
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: personal to Reggie Bush. It's just I believe a slippery

1015
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: slope when you say, listen, now, things are different. Now

1016
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: that things are different, let's go back and change things

1017
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: from twenty thirty forty years ago, where the rules are

1018
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Speaker 1: completely different than they are now.

1019
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 2: Dirty old man alerty, dirty old well with the mustache

1020
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Speaker 2: might be.

1021
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Speaker 1: The views and opinion is expressed by our podcast guests

1022
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Speaker 1: and or hosts are their own and do not necessarily

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Speaker 1: reflect the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or

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Speaker 1: any of their representatives.