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Speaker 1: for our Saturday Selects episode. This is a live one.

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Speaker 1: We don't release too many live episodes for our Selects,

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Speaker 1: but I loved this episode. This was s y s

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Speaker 1: K live how game shows worked. We toured this same topic.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many times, but it was one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite ones. Uh. This episode is from September.

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Speaker 1: Did I already say that? I'm not sure, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: check it out. It's Josh and Chuck Live. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Stuff you should know, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's

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Speaker 1: Charles W Chuck Bryant. Jerry's not with us, but these

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Speaker 1: beautiful people are at the Gothic Theater in Denver, Colorado. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That was easily double last night's reception. That was That

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Speaker 1: was a good start is what they call that. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed, but there's a lovely

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Speaker 1: lady with a Josh sent Me shirt. Oh yes, I

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. Thank you for loving that. Um. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so tonight, you guys, you're probably gonna feel like you

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Speaker 1: just wasted your applause because we're going to be talking

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Speaker 1: about game shows. Yes, oh good, you guys are into here.

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Speaker 1: That's good because it was a it's a coin toss. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: about half the people are like, I wonder what the

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Speaker 1: real topic is, right, he's just kidding. We Actually we

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Speaker 1: redo it, and like all the people are like, wow,

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Speaker 1: we want to like you guys, but we're really mad,

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Speaker 1: that's why we cheered game shows. So we we wanted

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Speaker 1: to do game shows in part because Fourth of July

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Speaker 1: most wildly irresponsible thing you could do. Something tells me

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Speaker 1: so we wanted to do something American, and nothing is

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Speaker 1: America and his game shows are. However, it turns out

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Speaker 1: that the first game show on television was actually British.

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Speaker 1: It was a British investor. Now we like the bacause

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Speaker 1: because they live in another country. Right, yeah, And remember this, buddy,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, then go to the press and expose

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm depressed, Alicia, Hippies, I don't have to

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Speaker 1: At one point, Mervy, Yes, I still love Jeopardy. Uh. Merv.

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Speaker 1: just Mark Goodson. So all right, well, you're weird longstanding

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Speaker 1: what Mark Goodson did he said, Okay, everybody, wait, we

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Speaker 1: They did away with the game. They did away with

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424
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Speaker 1: you can actually buy it and the whole thing just

425
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: wash it out and it's free. Um. So they're very

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Speaker 1: cheap to make. And there's one other thing that you

427
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 1: need to know about game shows. Their production wise, they

428
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: would film like five or six of them in a

429
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Speaker 1: single day, so you get the whole week done, just

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Speaker 1: knocked out in a single day. Yeah, I mean, that's

431
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Speaker 1: one of the big reasons are so cheap is because

432
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Speaker 1: you save on studio cost, on crew cost because they

433
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Speaker 1: just knock them out from like nine to five every day.

434
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: Then Barker goes home to his recliner, smokes a cigar,

435
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Speaker 1: and Space and neuterus a bunch of dogs. So, guys,

436
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Speaker 1: I don't know about you all, but I'm feeling pretty

437
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: good about the show that was. Actually that wasn't a

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Speaker 1: prompt for applause. That's as me softening the blow, becau,

439
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: why did you sit there and wait? And that is

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00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: that we have to put an ad break in. That's right,

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00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: So if you quiet, so, if you'll bear with us,

442
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: we'll be right back after these messages. We're right back, ma'am.

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Speaker 1: Magic of ented. Yes, that's how that works. So, well,

444
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: pay for this show, not commercial, and pay for a commercial.

445
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell my fellow militia members. So with the

446
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: seventies blood of game shows, UH comes some of the

447
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: most popular TV shows of all time in American history.

448
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: UH shows like Well Fortune and Jeopardy Prices right. Long

449
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: long running shows We Look Fortune debut nineteen and became

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Speaker 1: the longest running syndicated game showing American television history, making

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Speaker 1: Mr say Jack and Ms Van white household names. Of course,

452
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: and say Jack would have held on to his spot

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Speaker 1: as the longest running host had he not made the

454
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: very poor decision to stop and have his own late

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Speaker 1: night talk show. Did you remember that? Oh man, it's

456
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: so bad Pat say Jack show. It was like like

457
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: watching a valium, not like taking a value. It's like

458
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: watching a volume you're not allowed to take. That's how

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00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: boring it is. I have to sit there and look

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Speaker 1: at sad. Yeah. Say Jack is in a three way

461
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: race for worst late night talk show between Magic Johnson

462
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: and Chevy Chase, and I can't decide which one is worse.

463
00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: So Chevy, that was bad. It was really bad. They're

464
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: raised me to despise Check and I will still tell

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Speaker 1: you this, Pat say Jack Show was worse than the others.

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Speaker 1: It was the worst of all. It's pretty bad. I

467
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: would tell that to Pat say Jack's face. And of course,

468
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Speaker 1: who took over as the longest running host because of

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Speaker 1: say Jack's mistake treback, but little known fact, Vannah White

470
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: actually pre dates pass Jack on Will Fortune. Do you

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Speaker 1: guys know that she started back in the day when

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00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: Chuck Woolery still hosted. And the first letter Vanna White

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Speaker 1: ever turned on the board was a T So if

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Speaker 1: you were listening to the radio and there's like free

475
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: tickets at stake, that's the answer. That's an arcane trivia question.

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Speaker 1: And I got one more about Vannah if you guys

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Speaker 1: are okay with yeah, let's hear it. She holds the

478
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: Guinness World Record for television's most frequent clapper, with about

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Speaker 1: seven and twenty claps per episode of Wheel of four

480
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Speaker 1: Chune and they filmed six of those in a day.

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00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: That means she's at home the rest of the week,

482
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: just recouping. It's like, don't touch my mommy's hands. Don't

483
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: touch mommy's hands, says these giant aloe plants. She just

484
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: sticks her hands inside. They're like food. Move we not

485
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: expecting a little shop for a friends, I guess. So

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00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: then we move into uh, well, it's actually I forgot.

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00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: We need to get Bob Barker his duo because he

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00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: actually worked from nineteen seventy two on the Prices right

489
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: only until his grand old age of eighty three, But

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00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: he actually hosted a show before that, right, Truth or Consequences. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 1: what year did that start? He started hosting in nineteen

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Speaker 1: fifty four. He stopped in nineteen seventy. Sorry, he started

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Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty six. He stopped hosting that in nineteen

494
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: seventy four. He started hosting the prices right nine two,

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00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: and stopped hosting the prizes right in two thousand seven.

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00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: So for fifties, Bob Barker was a game show host

497
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Speaker 1: every day, well, actually one day a week, but you

498
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The rest of the time, cigars

499
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Speaker 1: and whiskey and spaying and neutering. I don't like this picture.

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00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: You're not gonna lie you had a veterinarian on hand,

501
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: say that one. I don't like what I see out

502
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: of that guy. He's getting humpy. Actually that would be

503
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: a neuter technically, don't email me. I know my dog parts.

504
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: So sorry, I'm so sorry. Well, you know the comedy

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Speaker 1: rule of free threes. We we're gonna have to say

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Speaker 1: that a third time. All right, keeping your for I

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00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: there's a nine chance we'll forget right, And at the

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Speaker 1: very end, we'll just go good night and then say it,

509
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: but I won't say it again because that would count.

510
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 1: I don't want it to count. I'm gonna see if

511
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Speaker 1: I can work it in here, so I want to

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00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: see it all right, So sorry. Game shows started in

513
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Speaker 1: their heyday. Everybody bear with me. Game shows started in

514
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: their heyday and rolled right into the eighties, and one

515
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: of the quintessential game shows of the nine was something

516
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: called Wind Loser Draw. Do you remember that? It was

517
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: nothing more than a game of pictionary played by celebrities.

518
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: That was it in a fake living room set. That

519
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: was how great it was. Lots of pestels, lots of

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00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: pop callers. If you look closely at every episode, they

521
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: have a magazine turned upside down that is clearly tinting.

522
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: Lines of cocaine that they're doing in between, like commercial

523
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: breaks of Super eight, lots of Bert's. I think, didn't

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00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Burt Conbie host that? He did? Or do I just

525
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: want him to have hosted that? He did host it?

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00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: And then Burt Reynolds was a guest on Burton Money.

527
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: They were all over that show, and poor Burt um

528
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: Convy was known as Little Burt, which he was even

529
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Speaker 1: I think taller than Burt Reynolds was just but that

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00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: was per Bert Reynolds contract. Yeah, I'm sure it's called

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Speaker 1: him Little Burt uh. And then Betty White. Betty White

532
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: had an interesting show called Just Men exclamation point with

533
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: an actual exclamation point, and it featured nothing but women

534
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: as contestants. But they would ask celebrity men a question

535
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: and then guess whether or not they would answer yes

536
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: or no, and they could win keys, potentially to start

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Speaker 1: a new car. So it was a game show where

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00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: you literally they could have called it coin flip and

539
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: just had people flipping a coin. But it worked out

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Speaker 1: because Miss Betty White was the first woman to ever

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Speaker 1: win the Daytime Emmy for Outstanding Game Show Host. So

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Speaker 1: cently people like it. She's just America's sweetheart, you know,

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00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: people like Betty one's great. So by the time the

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00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: eighties are like in their heyday, their own heyday. Um,

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00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: if you look back, a lot of the shows that

546
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: were big in the eighties had actually started in the sixties.

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00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: And the reason why is because, again, Risk Averse TV

548
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: executives were like, I think of anything new, I'll just

549
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: bring out tic tech, dough and concentration. You know, Paula

550
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: shutt up, dusted off and put it out there again.

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00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: So there are a lot of game shows like that,

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00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: and they were pretty successful. But one of the other

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00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: things that they did in the eighties was experiment with

554
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: game shows, right, so you had things like Double There. Yeah,

555
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: that was that's okay, we owe it to you, Double There.

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00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: If you guys haven't seen this, it is a thing

557
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: to behold. It's the weirdest game show maybe ever. There's

558
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: an obstacle course, but there's also quizzes and then teams

559
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: are our boy girl tweens working together, and there was slie.

560
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: So Double There was pretty much great on every level.

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00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: Was never saw you never saw Double There. Now I'm

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00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: a little sadly, I'm a little too old for doubled hair.

563
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: I was someone just boom me for being old. I

564
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: think they booed you for not watching Double There. I

565
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: was like sixteen. Boo Actually, it's like tad old for

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00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: Double There. Well, here's what I was watching. I was

567
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: watching Remote Control on TV, very very good game show.

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00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: It was. If you don't remember, it was what now

569
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: you would call him meta game show. Back then you

570
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: would call it a spoof of game shows because host

571
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: Kinober was hosting a game show in his parents basement.

572
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: That was the set. People sat on recliners and we

573
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: get launched back through the wall if they got a

574
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: question wrong at the end. And it was a really legit,

575
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: funny game show. They had categories like Brady Brady, Bunch

576
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: of Physics, or dead or Canadian one of my favorite categories.

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00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: And it is well known for one thing in particular,

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00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: which was launching the careers of some now very famous people.

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00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: It the very first time that Adam Sandler was on

580
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: TV was on remote control. Same with Colin Quinn and

581
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: Dennis Leary. They all got their start on remote control. Wow,

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00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: it's right. So there's a couple of tenants of game

583
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: shows that you have to know, and the first one

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00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: is that America's interest in game shows tends to Wax

585
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: and Wayne, and by the late eighties early nineties, America

586
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: was like, we're sick of game shows. And again, one

587
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: of the reasons why is because those executives didn't try

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00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: a lot of new stuff. They instead trotted out tic

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00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: Tacto and concentration. So America got bored with game shows

590
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: and kind of moved on, and game shows just went

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00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: away almost magically. By there were two game shows, The

592
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Prices Right and Family Feud still filming during the day.

593
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: Even Wheel of Fortunes daytime show got the ax. Wheel

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00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: of Fortune got the ax. That's how close to extinction

595
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: game shows came um and instead, the same lazy executives

596
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: gave us softcore news like Inside Edition and Extra and

597
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: daytime talk like Jenny Jones and Maury Povich, and we

598
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: have them to thank for that. I have another theory, actually,

599
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: that grunge killed game shows in the early nineties, right,

600
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: because there's a quote here from the great Mark Goodson.

601
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,959
Speaker 1: Apparently you're idle. He's great at quotes too. He said,

602
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: it's like a hurricane came and wiped them all away,

603
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: and that hurricane smelled like teen Spirit. I made up

604
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: that second part. They did say hurricane. Yes, it was

605
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: sort of antithetical though that early nineties time. I'm joking

606
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: about grunge. But it just it didn't It didn't work together,

607
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, Generation next Douglas Copeland slacking grunge. They didn't

608
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: like do away with game shows. They came in because

609
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: game shows went away. Yeah, America got sad. So the

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00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: other tenant of game shows. Is this. You can't keep

611
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: game shows down for longer than a decade. You just can't.

612
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna come back. They're gonna jump on your back

613
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: like beetle Juice or something. Right, So, by the late

614
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: nineties early two thousand's they started to come back, and

615
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: those risk averse executives started to innovate a little more,

616
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: meaning that they started stealing good game shows from other

617
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: countries which somebody hadn't been to to see. So they

618
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: brought in Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Right? Yeah,

619
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: I think that show came from England if I'm not mistaken,

620
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: as did The Weakest Link that she was perfect. She

621
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: scared me. Uh, these had much bigger prizes. They were

622
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: a little more complicated. Did you had things like phoning

623
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: a friend and stuff like that. Then he had shows

624
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,959
Speaker 1: like Deal or No Deal, which Josh put in he wrote,

625
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: this is pretty great, which brought America back into the

626
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: clutches of Auie Mandel. We came so close to getting

627
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: away from him forever. And then, uh, it was like

628
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: that time Uggs came back. You remember that, Like Uggs

629
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: were around and then they naturally just went off and died,

630
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, everybody started wearing oggs again.

631
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: It was like what happened? Same with Howie Mandel. Uh.

632
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: And then eventually game shows would co opt reality shows,

633
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Speaker 1: obviously with big, big shows like Survivor, uh, The Apprentice,

634
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: The Bachelor, Um Shark, Tanka show that I actually really love,

635
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: and then a great great show called American Ninja Warrior. Okay,

636
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: you guys like American Ninja Warrior, let me direct you

637
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: to the predecessor and frankly better, American Gladiator. That's right,

638
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: I love that too, and this is why American Gladiators

639
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: is just superior to American Injin Warrior. American Injin Warrior,

640
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's great, but they kind of dilute the

641
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: action a little bit. I think you could say, like

642
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: they have like b footage where like the production crew

643
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: went to the contestants hometown and talked to like their

644
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: peewee baseball coach about they used to be afraid of

645
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: the ball, but you know they really like got over

646
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: it and look at him now, and the coach that

647
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: kind of chokes up a little bit, you know. On

648
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: American Gladiator it's more like, so Kim is out there

649
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: and she's running around getting the crapp eat out of her,

650
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: and the commentators just have this throwaway like, well, no,

651
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: in fact about Kim. She traded her house for a

652
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: car to drive herself here to compete today, She's not

653
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: sure who's back home watching her child. Look at her,

654
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: go look at lace. She just knocked her flat unconscious

655
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: with her jousting stick. That's American Gladiators. You know what

656
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was great. That's what makes it superior.

657
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: Here's what I liked about American Gladiator is those courses

658
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: or whatever you call him. More hard enough. Like I

659
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: remember the bicycle thing that you would have to hang from,

660
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: and that's hard enough. There's no way I could even

661
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: hang from that much less propel myself. And you get

662
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: halfway across, and then a broided out bodybuilder would leap

663
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: on you and and try and get you off, and

664
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: it's like, are you kidding me? Like the best you

665
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: could hope for is that he put on too much

666
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: like peck lube and would slide off Eventchil couldn't get

667
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: a good grip. Peck Lube just got applause. Is your

668
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: only only hope? That pig shout out to the Original

669
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: six on American Gladiator Nitro Malibu, Malibu, Lace, Lace a

670
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: little Baptist, Chuck. Lace was like and to know what

671
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: was going on in my body when I saw Lace,

672
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: JC Chuck like sitting in front of his TV with

673
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: his knees pulled up to his chest, is rocking back

674
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: and forth, like singing hymnals. Things are happening. I like Lace.

675
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: You know who Lace was married to in real life?

676
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: Uh Michael Parrey actor Michael Parrey from Eddie and the Cruisers.

677
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: Uh Michael Trivia. Michael Pray is not here tonight, right,

678
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: he might be Jim and I Zapp and Sunny the

679
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 1: Original six. I had us off to you, Michael Douglas,

680
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: just show up. And I think it also inspired the

681
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: movie The Running Man pretty clearly, if I'm not mistaken.

682
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember if it prestages Running Man or The

683
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: Running Man came out right before. No, I think Running Man.

684
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: I think it came after American Lady Here. Really, I'm

685
00:42:54,719 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: gonna stand by that. He said, No, all right, where

686
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: al right? We in the two thousand's we are, So

687
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: we're in like another a bit of a game show

688
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: revival right now too. And you can tell because they're

689
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: trotting out old game shows again, like Snoop Dogg hosted

690
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: Joker's Wild, which, by the way, I have no problem

691
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: with that whatsoever. I think that was actually a pretty

692
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: short move. Um Anthony and Anderson's uh to tell the truth,

693
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: I think is what he hosts. Yea love connection? Oh

694
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: is that out? Yeah? I didn't know that they need

695
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: to bring back what was the one? The dating one

696
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: not singled out? Yeah, I forgot about singled out. Yeah,

697
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: that was a good one. That was a good one,

698
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: and the what was the one on the what was

699
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: the one on the bus? Oh? I loved cash cab.

700
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: Can we talk about cash cab for a minute or

701
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: can we go off script for a moment? Cash Cab

702
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: unfortunately came around when I and Josh we we worked

703
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: for Discovery Channel, so we couldn't be on cash cab.

704
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: So I would go to New York City and walk

705
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: around looking for the cash cab just to tease yourself,

706
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: knowing that I would have to disclose that I was

707
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: actually an employee of Discovery Channel and could not be

708
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: on cash Guy, I'm contractually prohibited from getting in your

709
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: cash cab. Sorry, what are you talking about dude, just

710
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: get in. It is a good show still now I

711
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: still watch reruns. I think it's Are they not still

712
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: making it? No? No? No? Is it back? All right? Well,

713
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: that lady says it's back, and she looks like she knows.

714
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: She's like, I know, I like that guy. He's funny. Yeah,

715
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. But it's still not the dating

716
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: shows thinking of were you thinking of the dating game now?

717
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: The wonder they had the stupid pop up bubbles about

718
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: what they were thinking. No, it's not pop up video,

719
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: blind date, blind date? I think it might be blind date?

720
00:44:54,000 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: What is next? Man? This show is so people are showing.

721
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: All right, I will say this, it had to have

722
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: been blind date because I've never heard of next. I

723
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: don't know what that is. Blind Date was good. I

724
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: don't really remember the premise. I'm assuming it was a

725
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: blind date. But it was a good show. I remember

726
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: that much. All right. Let me get us back on

727
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: track here. People are murmuring like you guys are figuring

728
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: out whether to vote for a referendument of town hall

729
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: or something. He quiet, we letsa legalize it? Uh? And then,

730
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: of course, some game shows never went away to begin with,

731
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: like our beloved prices. Right, they just changed hosts the

732
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: great great family Feud. Right. Uh. We lost Richard Dawson

733
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: while he retired, then he died, No, he retired, Ray

734
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: Comes came, then Richard, then he came back, then he died, right, okay, uh.

735
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: And then the great Loui Anderson hosted for a little while.

736
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: Then a guy named Richard carn who I don't know

737
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: excuse from Home Improvement. I never saw that show. It's

738
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: the most controversial thing I've said all night. And then

739
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't know who John O. Hurley is, j Peterman Seinfeld,

740
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: I love that guy. And then the great Steve Harvey

741
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: with his eight button suits. America has embraced Steve, even

742
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: though he messed up the was it miss America? That

743
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: just made him that much more than Frankly, nobody else

744
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: could have gotten away with it like he did. Agreed

745
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: so um as we said, game shows are very very

746
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: cheap to produce, which means you can find game shows

747
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: in every country around the world, and some countries like

748
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: just steal game shows from other countries. America does it,

749
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: everybody does it. Really. There's a game show in France

750
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: called Live Big Deal and it's let's make a deal,

751
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: but it's hosted by an animated alien for some reason. Um.

752
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: Some are franchise, like The Price Is Right is a

753
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: huge hit in UK they're crazy for the president right

754
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: appropriately um. And then there's some countries that just make

755
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: up their own, like there's one in Russia. We consider

756
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: ourselves pretty good researchers and we are almost a positive

757
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: that this is actually a real show. We've really tried

758
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: to find out, like, no, this is a joke. I

759
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: think this is real. Intercept is what it's called. And

760
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: an intercept, you were contestant and they give you a

761
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: car and you drive off in the car they call

762
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: the car and stolen in real I r L and

763
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: you are supposed to evade the police in real life

764
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: for thirty five minutes, and if you do that successfully,

765
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: you keep the car right And as far as we

766
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: can tell, it's real, and it always it's like, I

767
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: guess that's Russia. That's what they do in Russia. I

768
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: guess if you get killed, your next of kim gets

769
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: the car. I don't know. Maybe surely there's a winner.

770
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: I think the cops get to keep it. Maybe, But Russia, aside,

771
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: there was one country that stands alone when it comes

772
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: to game shows, Japan. Correct. We love Japan and their

773
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: dedication to making game shows as crazy as possible. Which

774
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if it started with this one, but

775
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: there was an eighties staple it started with it, did it?

776
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: Called Takeshi's Castle. This is in the eighties in Japan,

777
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: and there are fans of the show in America in

778
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. Yeah, that shows how great the show is. Well,

779
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: it changed everything right, Like Takeshi's Castle was, it was

780
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: just not it was a melee. There would be like

781
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: a hundred contestants all competing and everybody's trying to get

782
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: into Takeshi's Castle. But this is harder than you would

783
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: think because they make you dress up as a hand

784
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: and slap somebody else who's also dressed as another hand.

785
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: And then at the same time, while you're doing this,

786
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: there's some other poor schmos, like being spun around on

787
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: a wheel like twenty ft above a pond. I was

788
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: flying off. There's other people making a run for it,

789
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: and there's like like people dressed as Ninja throwing like

790
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: rubber throwing stars at him. It's just chaos, and um,

791
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: it just changed everything. It gave us the first concept

792
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: of the wacky Japanese game show. Yeah, I think the

793
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: best part about Takeshi's Castle was they played up the

794
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: not true fact that they were forced to be there

795
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: as contestants, which just added this extra something. I don't

796
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: know why they were they were like, yeah, this is great.

797
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: They were like, no, they got my family and they

798
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: made me come on the show. That just really put

799
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: the cherry on top of me. I don't know why.

800
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: Then there was another one after Takeshi's Castle. It came

801
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: on in the nineties and it was called Downtown Nogaki

802
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: no Sky and they which means, um, Downtown's not an

803
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: errand boy, which is no more sense of bold in

804
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: the Japanese so it doesn't help at all. It translations

805
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: Downtown is not an errand boy, and even if you

806
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: say okay, Downtown as a person still doesn't make any

807
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: damp to make any sense. It's really strange. But this

808
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: one really cemented like because this is when the Internet

809
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: came around. On YouTube was around, you could watch this

810
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: all over the world and it really really really called

811
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: on And they had punishment games, um like the Ask

812
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: game where if you've got something wrong. They would have

813
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 1: these big, sweaty sumo wrestlers rub their butt in your face,

814
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: or one called Penis Machine. And Josh did this research

815
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, what is that all about? Don't

816
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: do that because whatever immage search you come up with

817
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the game show at all.

818
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: But Penis Machine was where you'd have to recite a

819
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: tongue twister. Uh, and if you got it wrong then

820
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: they would kick you in the goet on everybody. I

821
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: was about to go backstage as a joke, but I

822
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: might have just stayed there, so so uh. Based on

823
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: that alone, I think this deserves a second ad break. Okay,

824
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: because this show is going really really well. Does everybody

825
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: bear with us? We will be right back. All right,

826
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: We're back everybody. Here's a little segment called what's it

827
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: like to be on a game show? Yeah, you can

828
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: expect sweaty man's ass in your face if you lose.

829
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: You know, that's just japan Um. If you're in a

830
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: game show, like as a kid as a young show,

831
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to be in a game

832
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: so that sounds awesome, And then I researched this. I

833
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to go anywhere near game shows.

834
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: I just want to watch them on TV. First of all,

835
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: it's tough. Like three thousand people try out for Wheel

836
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: of Fortune every year and only like five hundred make

837
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: the cut. That's it's Wheel of Fortune, right, It's just imagined.

838
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: There must be like ten people that make it on

839
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: the Jeopardy a year out of a million or something

840
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, Jeopardy stuff. I've known a few people

841
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: who have been on that, and uh, you can be

842
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: super super smart. You can pass the written tests, you

843
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: can pass the simulated games. But when you get out

844
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: there on stage and the lights are on and the

845
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: cameras are rolling, we've all felt very bad for the

846
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: people who don't make it the final Jeopardy because they

847
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: have zero dollars. That person is smarter than everyone in

848
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: this room. That's what's so sad. It is really hard.

849
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: And in fact, Kim Jennings is on our network now

850
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: with his great show Omnibus All Time Jeopardy Champion with

851
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: his insane record of like seventy something Jeopardy wins in

852
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: a row, which is just nuts. And you know, I'm

853
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: real good friends with Kim now, and it took me

854
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: like three dinners out before I was finally like, tell

855
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: me all about it? What's it like? And he was like, man,

856
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: you gotta he got through that first part, so he

857
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: had a real big advantage for those newbies coming on

858
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: every day. But he's like, you have to have all

859
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: this knowledge at your fingertips, and then it literally comes

860
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: down to like how good you are with a buzzer

861
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: and how like Steely you can keep yourself calm and

862
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: ignore the audience and ignore everything else and kind of

863
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: lock in. It's a really, really tough game show. But

864
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: in order to try out for something like The Price

865
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: is Right, it's a much different experience. You don't have

866
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: to be super smart. You get to have a lot

867
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: of personality. You just have to like go in front

868
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: of a panel of people and like turn around slowly right,

869
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: well yeah, and went to well now you don't do that,

870
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: although I could have worked in a fourth reference there. Uh.

871
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: I went to a Price is Right taping with my

872
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: sister in the in the mid nineties and they there's

873
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: a table like this with three producers sitting behind it

874
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: as you walk into the studio and they sit there

875
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: with a clipboard as you introduce yourself and take notes,

876
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: and it's very intimidating because I don't know if you

877
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: all know this. When you go on the prices right

878
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,479
Speaker 1: in the audience, you really don't know, like that's all real.

879
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: You don't know your name is gonna get called. I

880
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: always thought that they set you up and said, by

881
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: the way, at minute thirty or whatever, in round two,

882
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna call you down there. You need to do

883
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: this and act like this. It's all for real, like

884
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: you have no idea you're gonna get called. So when

885
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: people freak out and run down there because they had

886
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: no idea they were going to get called down on stage.

887
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: But I did not get called. I didn't have what

888
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: it takes. But you sat behind like the people who

889
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: have been contestants, right, yeah, we were. We were positioned

890
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: up where they had two empty rows. And when you

891
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: were finished playing the games, they don't you don't go

892
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: back to your seat. You go to this little area

893
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: and this, uh, this Harley Davidson biker guy won a

894
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: car and came down and sat next to us and

895
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: started crying. And I was like, sir, I was like,

896
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: what's it like, tell me what's going on? And he

897
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: said that he lost his job because he didn't have

898
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: a car to get him to work, and that this

899
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: changed his life. And I look over and he's crying,

900
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: and my sister's crying, and I'm crying, and I'm like,

901
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 1: new to a dog. It sounds like a punishment now

902
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: it is for the dog. Highly recommended, though, if you

903
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: ever have a chance, go to go to the prices

904
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: right taping. It's a lot of fun. It's a good story.

905
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: By the way, Well that's all right, It would have

906
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: been better if I would have, you know, won a

907
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: jet ski. So as thrilling as you think it might

908
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: be to be on a game show, it's actually, supposedly,

909
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: from what we can tell, super boring. Oh yeah, there's

910
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: a lot of waiting around. Remember they film five or

911
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: six episodes in a day, so if you're scheduled to

912
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: be on the fifth or sixth episode, you're just sitting there.

913
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: But it's not like you can wander around and bug

914
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: like Alex Trebeka or anything. Because remember Congress got involved

915
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: after the quiz show scandals, and the FCC still regulates

916
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: game shows like a hawk, Like if you go to

917
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: the bathroom, you have an escort, and there's like FCC

918
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: compliance officers. Can you imagine standing around for ten hours

919
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: without a cell phone? Not just now take it away,

920
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: they break it under the heel and they're like federal law.

921
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of sitting around. There's a lot

922
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: of compliance that you have to do. There's a lot

923
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: of rules you have to learn. And one of the

924
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 1: reasons why, um they watch you like a hawkers because

925
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: people have been known to um collude with people in

926
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: the audience. Like there was this guy in the UK

927
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: who won a million pounds on who Wants to Be

928
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: a Millionaire? It is it's way more than the million

929
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: dollar prize, Like I don't know how much, but a lot,

930
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: just trust me. And he won. His name was Charles Ingram,

931
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: and he won because he was talking to his wife

932
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: and his wife was going and talking to somebody in

933
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: the audience. And this is the scheme they came up with.

934
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: Charles Ingram, you know, who wants to be a Millionaire's

935
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: basically multiple choice. There's like four possible answers. He would

936
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: read them out loud to himself, but when he read

937
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: the correct one, the guy in the audience would go right.

938
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: Very sophisticated system. They got away with it. Like they want.

939
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: They like. The producers were like, your congratulations, and they

940
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: made it home. And finally, because he apparently was acting

941
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: KG in the in the green room afterward, they went

942
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: back and looked at the tape and discovered the fraud

943
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: and they actually went to court in the UK. They

944
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: went to court. He and his wife did uh, and

945
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: we're find a hundred and fifteen thousand pounds and didn't

946
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: get a dime of the million pound prize. Some kind

947
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: of wig said a hundred and fifteen thousand pounds right,

948
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: And you would think, okay, justice was justice was served? Right, No,

949
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't because Charles Ingram and his wife went on

950
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: to write a book about the whole thing and it

951
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: grows two and a half million pounds. Yep. And we

952
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: have a couple of new sayings. Now if you remember

953
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: from dB Cooper, never trust family and now cheating always pays.

954
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: So those are the two tenants of stuff you should know.

955
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: One across these knuckles and one across the other knuckles. Uh,

956
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: you want to bring it home? Yeah, let's let's talk

957
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: about a guy named Michael Larson. Yes, Michael Larson. There's

958
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: a couple of knowing nods out there anyone know the

959
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: game show Press Your Luck. No Wammies. That was the

960
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: point of pressure luck, not to get away emmy. Yeah,

961
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: So who was Michael Larson? So Michael Larson was this guy.

962
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: He was a contestant eventually on Pressure Luck, but he

963
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: started out as a semi employed ice cream truck driver.

964
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: Let that sink him for a Yeah, you're really really

965
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: reaching for the stars. You're like, no, I don't want

966
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: to do that full time, but keep my option open.

967
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: His the time when he wasn't running the ice cream

968
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: truck was allotted instead to staring at his wall of

969
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: TVs in his house, um running off of his VCR.

970
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: Because he would take game shows and watch them up

971
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: to eighteen hours a day in the hopes of finding

972
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: some weakness that he could exploit. Go onto the game

973
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: show and crack it and win a million dollars, right,

974
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: And he figured out pretty quick the price is right,

975
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: there's no there's no flaw to it. Same with Wheel

976
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: of Fortune. It's just kind of luck. Right. And then

977
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: in CBS, Yes, CBS aired a brand new game show

978
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: build is the most technologically advanced game show ever and

979
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: it was called Press Your Luck and Michael Larson's said,

980
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you game show. He said about getting

981
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: pressurer luck. Yeah, so here's the deal with pressure luck.

982
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: It had three just regular contestants who would answer questions

983
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: and then at the end of each round, whoever was

984
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: in the lead, we get to press their luck. And

985
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: there was a big board with a bunch of individual

986
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: squares that would light up like that's a good pressure luck.

987
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: You would press your luck and say stop. We didn't

988
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: have to say stopped, but most people did, and it

989
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: would stop on whatever square and you might win five dollars,

990
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: or you might win a little prize, or you might

991
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: get a whammy, which is really bad because that means

992
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: you lose everything that you had one up into that point.

993
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: Or you might get a free spin plus cash. So

994
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: if you get like two or three spins in a row,

995
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: it was a really big deal. And you could press

996
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: your luck and then get that whammy. And it was

997
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: this little jerk annoid looking thing, this little cartoon character

998
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: with a cape that would go and you lose everything

999
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: that you had made. So you're really if you press

1000
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: your luck, you were risking a lot by moving forward, right,

1001
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: And it was very tough because not only did the

1002
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: light flash around the board, the squares themselves changed, So

1003
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: it was just like chaos, your brains going haywire, and

1004
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: you go stop and just hope for the best. Well,

1005
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: Michael Larson would take pressure Luck and again watch individual

1006
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: episodes eighteen hours straight, just looking trying to find something

1007
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: sitting around and just as whitey tidies like an ice

1008
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: cream sandwich melted on his chest and finally one day

1009
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: he saw it and he must have stood up, chest

1010
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: hair matted, sticky, and he probably went got it, got

1011
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: a chocout taco on his chest. And what he figured

1012
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: out was that that light and those boards they weren't

1013
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: random at all. There were five patterns. And not only

1014
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: were they five, were there five patterns they repeated in order.

1015
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: All he had to do was hone is timing and

1016
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: getting the light to stop, memorize where the boxes were,

1017
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: and he would crack pressure luck and that is exactly

1018
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: what he did. I'm trying to think of that moment

1019
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: at for a um in his bark a lounger when

1020
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: he realizes that it's a pattern, Like what that must

1021
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: have been like, Like he's like, my life is vindicated. Yeah,

1022
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: everyone said, I was a loser, but I'm not so

1023
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: just disregard the chockout taco on my chest. I'm no loser.

1024
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: He bought a bus ticket from Cincinnata to l A

1025
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: and I bought a suit from a vintage thrift store

1026
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: and actually managed to become a contestant on Pressure Luck

1027
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: on Mane. He came in last in the question round,

1028
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: but he's still because you know, he was Michael Larson.

1029
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: But he still gets to press his luck. And the

1030
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: very first thing that happens is he gets a whammy

1031
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: because you can practice all you want on the arm

1032
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: of your recliner, but on the day, as they say

1033
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: in the in the industry, that little buzzer may not

1034
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: match up quite right. So he had to he had

1035
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: to get synchronized. He did, and boy did he he did,

1036
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: because after that, on his next spin, he locked into

1037
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: thirty one consecutive spins. This had never happened before, nothing

1038
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: even remotely close. Two or three in a row is amazing.

1039
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: Before you were on fire, this guy got thirty one

1040
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: consecutive spins. Overall, he got forty seven in the half

1041
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: hour show that he was on. The other two contested

1042
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: to sat back and one guy pulled out like a

1043
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: corn cob pipe and read the paper. I mean like

1044
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: it was the Larcen Show, right, And just a little

1045
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: by little he starts building his money, a few hundred

1046
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: bucks here and another spin there, and he just kept

1047
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: hitting him. Yeah, and keep in mind, at any point

1048
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: he could have lost it all. And so there's a

1049
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: lot of real tension building in the saying as he

1050
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: gets more and more money because he has to say

1051
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: I want to press my luck. Everyone's like, you're crazy, dude,

1052
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: You've got fifty dollars. But he worked it all the

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Speaker 1: way up into a record at the time hundred and

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Speaker 1: ten thousand, two hundred thirty seven dollars, which is more

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Speaker 1: money than had ever been won on an American game show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the previous record was forty dollars. This guy just crushed

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Speaker 1: that record. And you can actually see this. There's somebody

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Speaker 1: went to the trouble of making a compilation. It's like

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Speaker 1: eleven minutes long. It's the best thing you can watch.

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Speaker 1: It's quite thrilling. It's on YouTube. I think it's just

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Speaker 1: Michael Larson. Press your luck should be the first thing

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Speaker 1: that comes up. And when you watch it, you see

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Speaker 1: Michael Larson really pressed his luck and he won. He

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Speaker 1: won the game, and the CBS executives are just standing

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Speaker 1: there watching this, like having heart attacks left and right,

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01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: getting fired, firing each other, firing themselves, just having a

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Speaker 1: terrible time of it. But in the end they paid Larson.

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Speaker 1: They said he didn't cheat. He was smarter than CBS think.

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Speaker 1: One of the executives said these air quotes though, So

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Speaker 1: we paid him. So he one, press your luck. But

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Speaker 1: it's not the end of the Michael Larson story. No,

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Speaker 1: So he's sitting at home a few months later eating

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Speaker 1: his push up and a local radio station was running

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Speaker 1: a contest. Those only two ice cream truck things I

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Speaker 1: can think of, chock out tacos and butch ups. Those

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Speaker 1: are good enough. Yeah, you know what the worst was

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Speaker 1: was that rainbow popsicle things? Those are the worst. What's

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Speaker 1: wrong with you? You like those? Yes? Really? The bomb Pop,

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Speaker 1: the red, white and Blue pop or the rocket Pop

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Speaker 1: to Patriot Country, those are great. It had no ice creaming,

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Speaker 1: and I was all about the ice okay, well, yeah,

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01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: you wouldn't like a bomb pop all that's what they

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01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: were called. Or rocket pops one of the two popper

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Speaker 1: Rocket Pop you've got a strong reaction, so I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm the dummy. Some people recoiled in horror. All right,

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01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: So Michael Larson sitting at home eating his rocket pop

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Speaker 1: and a radio station DJ comes on and says, we

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Speaker 1: have a new contest and we're going to read out

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: serial numbers on dollar bills and if you have that

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Speaker 1: dollar bill, you in fifty thousand dollars. I'm sorry, And

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Speaker 1: Michael Larson said, I got a lot of dollar bills.

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Speaker 1: So he went to the bank and withdrew nine thousand,

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01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, fifty tho dollar bills from the bank bills.

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01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: So he was the joy of the bank that day.

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Speaker 1: But but wait, wait, let's think about this for a second.

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Speaker 1: You can withdraw those all day long. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: know the serial number unless you sit there and start

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Speaker 1: memorizing them. And that's what he did, yep. Instead of

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Speaker 1: watching games shows, he sat around and memorized the serial

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Speaker 1: numbers for the dollar bills that he had in his house.

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Speaker 1: And a few months went by, the contest was ended

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Speaker 1: and he didn't win. But that's still not the end

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Speaker 1: of the Michael Larson's story. Now, that's right, because he

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Speaker 1: never took that money back to the bank because he's

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Speaker 1: Michael Larson. I can only imagine if this guy would

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Speaker 1: have worked for a living right, we would have a

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Speaker 1: cure for cancer today, we'd all be living tod and

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Speaker 1: fifty things. That would be great. But no, he left

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Speaker 1: that fifty grand at home and on Christmas he went

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Speaker 1: to a party with his girlfriend, to a Christmas party,

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Speaker 1: came home and found his door kicked in and the

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Speaker 1: money was gone. Merry Christmas, yep. And they never found

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Speaker 1: the money, they never found the person who stole it,

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Speaker 1: and Michael Larson eventually died of cancer in two thousand nine,

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Speaker 1: while on the lamb from the FBI and the i

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Speaker 1: R S for his part in a foreign lottery scam.

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Speaker 1: To the bitter end, still trying to make that easy money.

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Speaker 1: Uh and finally, uh, just about eight or nine years ago,

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Speaker 1: plans to make a movie of his life story starring

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Speaker 1: Bill Murray. Dude, that would have been so good. We're

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Speaker 1: finally scrapped. I'm no very sad, but his story lives

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Speaker 1: on tonight here in Denver, Colorado. That is game shows.

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Speaker 1: That's a history of game shows. Everybody good, that's right,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you very much. Stuff you Should Know

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