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Speaker 2: This unfiltered Episode one. Here we go.

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Speaker 3: I'm with my guy, Isaac Zoo. Wherever you're listening or

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Speaker 3: you're watching, Welcome to episode one.

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Speaker 2: Isaac. How are you, man? How are you feeling about this?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well, man. I'm excited to start this pod

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Speaker 2: with you, you know, fish Stripes on Filters to be

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Speaker 2: the first of hopefully many podcasts that come to you

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Speaker 2: bi weekly on every single platform possible. And yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: be talking Marlins. We'll be talking major League Baseball as

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Speaker 2: a whole little bit, playoffs and off season expectations throughout

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Speaker 2: you know, throughout the off season.

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Speaker 3: Yep, as always, you know, subscribe to wherever you're watching

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Speaker 3: this podcast and subscribe to us on the YouTube channel.

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Speaker 3: Just a little bit of a rundown of what we're

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Speaker 3: act gonna be doing on this podcast. I mean, the

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Speaker 3: first thing is obviously talking about your team, the Miami Marlins,

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Speaker 3: the good, the bad, the really bad. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: it's a team that we'll get into now in a

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Speaker 3: little bit. We're also gonna do MLB talks, so you know,

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Speaker 3: usually this is about the Miami Marlins, but we're actually

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Speaker 3: gonna talk about you know, other teams. The playoffs are

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Speaker 3: coming up, so it's a little bit of an interesting

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Speaker 3: topic to touch up on. We also have you know,

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Speaker 3: a special guests that we want to bring on, hopefully players,

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Speaker 3: on the live streams that we're gonna bring here for

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Speaker 3: the podcast is gonna be about, breaking news and live

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Speaker 3: this for you guys just so we can get more

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Speaker 3: because baseball, you know, once you watch like one hundred

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Speaker 3: and sixty two games of the Marlins and then it's

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Speaker 2: There's much to watch, and it's and it sucks.

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Speaker 3: But here we are, all right and entering the first

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Speaker 3: top pick the Miami Marlins season as a whole, Isaac,

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Speaker 3: what are your thoughts? And we're gonna go into the good,

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Speaker 3: the bad, and then there's a really bad obviously because

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Speaker 3: it's the Marlins. But let's start with the good. What

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Speaker 3: what's been good about this season? Right?

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Speaker 2: Well? And one more thing to add to what you

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Speaker 2: and we'll get to try our best to answer every

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Speaker 2: our best. But uh, to answer your question about let's

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Speaker 2: say we start with the good, right, Yeah, they're good,

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Speaker 2: You gotta start with Trevor Rodgers. Trevor Rodgers coming out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, when you go into positives. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: We've all wanted to see him and that trade for

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Speaker 2: But this yearers this year man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's looking more of it's it's a

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Speaker 3: And then you look at the outfield, it's been a

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Speaker 3: the trade deadline was pretty good. I mean, they got

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Speaker 3: But it's it's been a good season and I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know how we're doing the good the

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Speaker 2: But they just had to trade him. And Alex Jackson's

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Speaker 2: a lot of time. But yeah, like the trade deadline was,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we all pretty much agreed that it

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Speaker 3: and now entering pretty much the bad of the season though,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on fields that we got to go all in. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you look at it, it's more of an

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Speaker 2: Because there was a lot of ugly in this team. Well,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we talked about Alfaro and you could

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Speaker 2: I can't believe they actually said that, but it's really

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Speaker 3: And if you really go into that quote that Kim said,

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Speaker 3: which I think that's where it's gonna kick in. But

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Speaker 2: Because let's look at Isan. If Isan was.

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Speaker 2: year and the Max Meyer for Brendan Marsh trade, and

432
00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,720
Speaker 2: Anaheim said, no, maybe Bryson Brigman is a guy that

433
00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,000
Speaker 2: Miami ads and along with maybe some other friend prospect,

434
00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,560
Speaker 2: and okay, there you go. They say, yeah, so, like

435
00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,960
Speaker 2: you're right, maybe he is a swee or to a deal,

436
00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,600
Speaker 2: but you know, I would still like to see him

437
00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,840
Speaker 2: in the big leagues for sure, rather than Diaz.

438
00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, hitting the ball, Yeah, I think, I mean, obviously

439
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,560
Speaker 3: popular opinion, everyone's gonna want to see this guy in

440
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,639
Speaker 3: the big leagues. But when you really look into it,

441
00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,040
Speaker 3: I think that's what Miami's gonna do. I don't and

442
00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,479
Speaker 3: I hope they don't trade him, because I found if

443
00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,680
Speaker 3: I'm the Marlins, I'm doing what they did with Brian Miller.

444
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,639
Speaker 3: Call him up for a series. If you really want

445
00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,479
Speaker 3: to trade him and you really don't want him up,

446
00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,120
Speaker 3: you bring him up a series and you bring him

447
00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,960
Speaker 3: back down to protect him from the Rule five, which

448
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,399
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of these guys in that triple

449
00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,880
Speaker 3: A roster, or at least most of the known guys.

450
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,240
Speaker 3: You know, Joe Dunan, you have him in there, Peyton Henry,

451
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,680
Speaker 3: bryceon Bergman is one of them who was Rule five

452
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,439
Speaker 3: eligible this year.

453
00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,760
Speaker 2: If they don't come up to the big leagues, so you.

454
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,800
Speaker 3: Would assume at some point at least two of the

455
00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 3: three guys rise, and I think the biggest names have

456
00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,080
Speaker 3: been Brigman and Peyton Henry. Joe Dunan was injured for

457
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,239
Speaker 3: a good majority of the season and then he came

458
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,359
Speaker 3: back and he hasn't been the same that we remember,

459
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,240
Speaker 3: so you know, it's gonna be interesting to see. And

460
00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,960
Speaker 3: then when we talk about depth and we go into

461
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,600
Speaker 3: the off season a little bit, if Miami comes back

462
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,480
Speaker 3: with a San Diaz, Magner, Sierra orhel Far one of

463
00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,720
Speaker 3: those guys, at least one or two of them, Miami's

464
00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 3: not trying to compete.

465
00:18:58,560 --> 00:18:59,720
Speaker 2: And we've spoken about how.

466
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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two is gonna be such a crucial year

467
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,800
Speaker 3: for this team in that rebuild phase because everyone is

468
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,480
Speaker 3: tired of losing. I mean, Misch said this on the spaces.

469
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,280
Speaker 3: So it's not nothing that's hidden or it's breaking news.

470
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,600
Speaker 3: Miss said it on the Twitter spaces that he did

471
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,520
Speaker 3: with Takes a couple of weeks ago, that Miami's trying

472
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,480
Speaker 3: to win already. They're trying to win twenty twenty two.

473
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,880
Speaker 3: They want to go to at least the playoffs would

474
00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,919
Speaker 3: be a big advancement for this team, and they were

475
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 3: trying to do it this season. They thought they really

476
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 3: had a team.

477
00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:26,000
Speaker 2: They didn't.

478
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,280
Speaker 3: I mean, then they started trading players. So, I mean,

479
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if you have anything else ugly to

480
00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 3: really mention about this team, but I think we pretty

481
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,360
Speaker 3: much covered everything from the good, the bad, end the ugly.

482
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, well, like you said, I you know, luckily,

483
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 2: I think where we've seen the last of he's on

484
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 2: dis after this year. I think we've seen the last

485
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 2: of him in the Marlin's uniform. Like Nearer is out

486
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,959
Speaker 2: of options. We all know that. Maybe they keep him

487
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,679
Speaker 2: around because they like his speed, I don't know, they

488
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 2: think he's good looking, I don't know. And then Riel Fara,

489
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: I think it's definitely done for after this year as well.

490
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,359
Speaker 2: And yeah, I really hope that you're right, because it

491
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 2: is pretty ugly. Those three guy still playing every almost

492
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 2: every single day. But yeah, we'll definitely see what they

493
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 2: do in the offseason.

494
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Alex Jackson is another guy who I

495
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't be shocked if he's in't on this team next

496
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 3: year because he has not been good. He hasn't had

497
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 3: that many played appearances and and you can he might

498
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 3: be about I think most backup. But you know, Sandy

499
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 3: Loon has been pretty good with the young guys and

500
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a very young rotation next season,

501
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,959
Speaker 3: thinking that it's gonna be Edward and six to win

502
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 3: there as well, thinking they do something move a the

503
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 3: Asier down to the bullpen like they did with Thompson.

504
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 2: But Sandy's Sandy.

505
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 3: Lion is a guy who I think the Marlins could

506
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 3: try to resign and just limit him a lot when

507
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 3: it comes to batting because he cannot bat and we've

508
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 3: seen that.

509
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I we really need a trade for Jacob Stallings.

510
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 2: This and that we the Marlins really need to trade

511
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 2: for Jacob Stallings. I think that would be the perfect edition.

512
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 2: I think Craig really like went into it. Mischig in

513
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 2: the Swings and Misses episode. Yeah, that guy, I've since

514
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 2: he said that, I have watched some of the Pirates

515
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 2: games and watching the guy, watching the guy called games.

516
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,040
Speaker 2: Watching the guy is in every single pitch. He he

517
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 2: cares about his pitchers, he cares about his team. That's

518
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: sixty games under five hundred. That guy would be such

519
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 2: a boost to this team for so many reasons that like, Wow,

520
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 2: I think that's a no brainer trade for that guy.

521
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think this is the perfect time to

522
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 3: enter those offseason expectations because we talk about Stallings, but

523
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 3: on that same team as Brian Reynolds, who's been in.

524
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 2: A big option.

525
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 3: It's been no surprise, no shock, no breaking news that

526
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 3: Miami needs a center fielder. I mean Starlin Marte got

527
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 3: traded for Jesus Suzaria. They immediately started looking. And then

528
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 3: we talked about a little while back about that proposed

529
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 3: trade Max Meyer for Brandon Marsh. This really does show

530
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 3: that the Marlins want to make moves. They want They

531
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 3: don't care what it is, they don't care what they

532
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 3: have to give up. They were willing to give up

533
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 3: Max Meyer, the top one of the top prospects on

534
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 3: this team, top five prospect. I mean, once Edward graduates,

535
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: if he does next season, it's gonna be Max Meyer

536
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 3: is the top guy on that on that squad. When

537
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 3: it comes to pitching, you have Max Meyer. I don't

538
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 3: I don't think Jake Eater was involved into any conversations,

539
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 3: but they're willing to give up these top guys and

540
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: Brian Reynolds, that's been the big name. And Jacob Stallings

541
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,959
Speaker 3: would be a sweetener in that deal for us, at

542
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 3: least a very nice sweetener because it would solidify or catching.

543
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 3: And Jacob Stallings is a guy who's been good at

544
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: batting this season. He's at a good good overall badding.

545
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 3: I mean, defense has been the biggest thing for this team,

546
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 3: which Hower hasn't shown much good defense. Chad Wallack when

547
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 3: he was on the team was not doing anything well defensively.

548
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 3: Sandy Leone was okay, but he wasn't that good. I

549
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 3: don't think the Moons have really thrown out that many

550
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: runners this season when you really look at it, Isaac,

551
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: I mean, Brian Reynolds and Jacob Stallings would make a

552
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 3: lot of sense on this team. A young All star

553
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 3: Brian Reynolds on the center field, pairing him up with

554
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 3: Jesus Sanchez and whoever else is going to be that

555
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 3: left fielder. Because I think Jesus is gonna play right

556
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 3: field from now on. I mean, his fielding isn't great,

557
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 3: but it isn't horrible either, So I don't think they're

558
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 3: gonna want to move him around. I think they want

559
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: to keep him comfortable in one spot and left field

560
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: is open. I mean, and Brian, and let's say Brian

561
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 3: Reynolds just get on the team, he would lock up centerfield.

562
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, with Stallings, like you said, you solidify

563
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: the catching position one hundred percent. And then when it

564
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 2: comes to Brian Reynolds, that's one of the you know,

565
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: top time centerfielder in the whole league. And the Marlins

566
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: had a great center fielder in Starling Marte. Would I

567
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: have preferred to like extend him then trade him for Luzarda,

568
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: of course, but you know he wanted a fourth year.

569
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: He you know, center fielders don't age particularly well. Marte though,

570
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: it looks like he's like a walking muscle, so I

571
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 2: would assume that he's on the better side of you know, aging.

572
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know, if the Marlins were, I don't

573
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: know how willing the Pirates could be to do that,

574
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: to trade both of their top guys. You know, that's

575
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: basically all they got left. But they know that they're

576
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: like four three years away from competing again. So maybe

577
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: it makes sense more when you look at it. But

578
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 2: when you take into consideration Jake Eater's injury, they were

579
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 2: willing to trade Meyer. It wasn't Eater, it was Meyer

580
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 2: who they wanted to trade, So maybe less you know,

581
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: maybe they're more reluctant to trade Meyer at this point because, hey,

582
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 2: without Eater for at least all of twenty twenty two,

583
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: you know, you have you have him, you have Edward,

584
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: you have a lot of pitching still, but you know,

585
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: let's say you never have enough pitching, So they are

586
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: going to be a little reluctant to trade one of those.

587
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a major league, major league starter rather than Meyer.

588
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: Maybe they combine a lot of the minor league guys,

589
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 2: maybe mccambley and Nicholas and or Meyer. What a combination

590
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: of two to get someone like Brian Reynolds. But it

591
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 2: would take a lot. It would take an arminal leg

592
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: to get a guy like Brian Reynolds who's a stut so,

593
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: but that would really I think him installings would add

594
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: ten one to this team easy.

595
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think we talked about this too. I

596
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: think it was Kyle Nicholas and Zach mccambley who Alex

597
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 3: Carver mentioned from Marlins Miners our guy. He mentioned that

598
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 3: they brought him up the trip to Double A Pensacola

599
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 3: right around that time. Really, and I think what he

600
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: said that really this would be about getting these guys

601
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: to show off what they could do in a higher

602
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: level situation, not you know, Double single A Bloyd or

603
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,239
Speaker 3: Jupiter where they formally were at some points. So I mean,

604
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: those are for sure some guys who are gonna be

605
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 3: in a possible trade if it happens, I would assume

606
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: one of the two because I mean, if it's just

607
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 3: for Brian Reynolds, would and I deal trade look like,

608
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: I mean, probably Max Meyer is going to be in there,

609
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: or they could really not put Max maind they putting

610
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 3: both of those guys we mentioned the Cambley Nicholas, You

611
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 3: maybe throw in a third guy in there and maybe

612
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: some major league talent. I mean, that would be a

613
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: pretty good trade for just Brian Reynolds. Now if you

614
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: had Stallings, you would have to add Max Meyer. I

615
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: don't know if you agree with that, but I mean

616
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: it's something to really think of what a trade would

617
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: look like.

618
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it just depends on how much Pittsburgh values Stallings.

619
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: But I can tell you right now, one of those

620
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: three Meyer, Mcambley, Nicholas, they one of them will be

621
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: traded one hundred percent in the off season. And then

622
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: when it comes to just what it would look like

623
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: who they can go a different route. You know, maybe

624
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 2: they could still do that that aforementioned trade of Meyer

625
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: for Marsh straight up. Maybe they add some you know,

626
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: some bs alongside Meyer to get it done, and then

627
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: maybe they go after Stalling separately, and all of a sudden,

628
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: there you go. And Marsh has picked up a little

629
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: bit lately on the Angel. I don't know if anyone's

630
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: been keeping up with him, because as soon as we

631
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: hear this from Mish, we keep up with what Brandon

632
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 2: Marsh is doing. And he's he struggled to begin his year,

633
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: but now he's playing a little bit better. So he

634
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: would be someone that's interesting and I would take that

635
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: guy in the center field role every single day. You

636
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: have Haese Sanders right to his left and right field,

637
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 2: and if they don't do anything else, which I hope

638
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: they do, you have Ryan da la Cruz in left field,

639
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: who has been a real Yeah, he's been a real

640
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: cup of fresh air for this team. Wow.

641
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: And let's say the Marlins, you know, they don't go

642
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: for Stallings. Another option is Wilson Controro's. I mean, yeah,

643
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: I like Wilson, he has one year left. I like

644
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: Wilson as well, But you know, I think Stallings would

645
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Speaker 3: be the It would be I think a scenario where

646
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Speaker 3: the Marlins have to re sign him, and I don't

647
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Speaker 3: think it's not it's not worth giving up Maximyr whatsoever.

648
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 3: Maybe give up mccambley or Nicholas in that scenario, and

649
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Speaker 3: it wouldn't be as big of a haul that the

650
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Speaker 3: Cubs received because, first of all, the guy's in a

651
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 3: one year so it's not really one hundred percent sure

652
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: if he's gonna resign unless he really wants to. But

653
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: maybe the Cub's really lowball. I mean, they're in a

654
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 3: rebuilding stage. They're gonna want to get prospects, obviously, but

655
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: maybe the big piece of that trade would be mccambley

656
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Speaker 3: or Nicholas, and then you have to add some single

657
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 3: A players in there just to make it, you know,

658
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: make it work. Or maybe a guy like Aliezer would

659
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 3: make sense in that trade in at least in my opinion,

660
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: because odd man out, it looks like it's gonna be

661
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 3: Aliaizer to either get traded or.

662
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 2: Move to the bullpen.

663
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 3: And I think we've all really come to that agreement

664
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Speaker 3: that he would be nice in the bullpen for the Marlins,

665
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: but trading him to be an option. And then finally,

666
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: if somehow the Marlins won't got Reynolds, Max Coupler is

667
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: a good option bringing back Starling Marte, which I know

668
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: kim Man said the book was open to that, but

669
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Speaker 3: I highly doubt it'll happen, especially when you go into

670
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Speaker 3: a bating war with a team like the Yankees or

671
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Speaker 3: the Dodgers.

672
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Speaker 2: That's game over right there. So you look at it.

673
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Speaker 3: The Marlins have a lot of options in this offseason.

674
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know when you mentioned Contrares, you know, especially

675
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: when he has one year left, it would be like

676
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: a it would be a trade where they you have

677
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: to assume that you're gonna extend him. The guy's sitting

678
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: two twenty four this year. You know it's Hori Alfarachi

679
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 2: has a higher batting yards. But also you know at

680
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Speaker 2: the same time that that doesn't mean shit, but al

681
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: far always I'm sorry, Wilson Charz has an ops A

682
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: SEVNY forty four. He is having a DC year, but

683
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 2: he's not having you know, that prototypical great All Star

684
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: year that you know he's capable of having. So when

685
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: it comes to that, I'd prefer Stallings, who was the

686
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: lesser offensive player, no doubt about it. But that guy

687
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: behind the plate is just such an upgrade over anyone

688
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: we have. And regarding Eliezer, like you said, you're our

689
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: good friend, Eli, who's you know, helping us produce this

690
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: beautiful podcast of ours. Yet mentioned that Eliezer, it's more

691
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: likely that you know, he'd probably be traded rather than

692
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: you know, kept in the bullpit, just because he's one

693
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: of the few arbitration eligible guys, as salary might go

694
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: to around two million versus other guys who are still

695
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: you know, making the league minimum like six though, like

696
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Speaker 2: Edward la Luzardo, so Eliezer, I see him being traded

697
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: as well, along with one of those minor league guys

698
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah, and there's so many ways it could go.

699
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: But I think we could touch up on the bullpen

700
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: a little bit because they have to revamp it again

701
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: when we really look at it, I mean, this revamped

702
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: bullpen is not revamped at all. I think we could

703
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: really talk about the Alex Vaser trade that they made

704
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: for Dylan Floro.

705
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Speaker 1: Uh.

706
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Speaker 3: You know, that's when I think we could that's things

707
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: a little bit because the way theys is playing right now,

708
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 3: it could have been a big piece in this off season.

709
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: Could have been a guy who the Marlins really could

710
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: have developed a lot more, kind of in that Bender

711
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: kind of. It could have been him and Bender pretty much.

712
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: I mean, because those are the real young guys that

713
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: would have been on this pen. But we have Bender

714
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: and then not no one else. I mean, Zach Pop's

715
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: been pretty impressive. Paul Campbell ever since when he came back.

716
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: He hasn't been horrible, but he hasn't been good either.

717
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: He's been mediocre, I would say, I mean, what are

718
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: some options for this bullpen? We talked about Andrew Chaffin, who.

719
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: Cheap guy, really cheap player.

720
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: He's been good at the bullpen for the Chicago Cubs,

721
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: and then he gets traded to Oakland, so he's been

722
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: pretty solid there. I think a good old friend of

723
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: ours from the Marlins, Sergio Romo would make sense on

724
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: this team.

725
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: I mean, he was on the Marlins.

726
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: He was really good and you got a slave win Diaz.

727
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: So I think that's something we could really talk about.

728
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: I mean bullpen options, that as what do you got

729
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: open options?

730
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what, I think deceptively, this bullpen

731
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: hasn't been as bad as you know fans might think.

732
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: You know, like Flora, Yeah, you make that trade. You

733
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: give up Town to get Town. Flora is a great reliever.

734
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Speaker 2: He was on the World Series Champions, you know, Los

735
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: Angeles dodgerslast ye full innings in a playoff hunt, in

736
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: a playoff atmosphere, albeit you know covid, but he he

737
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: pitched well for the Dodgers. We had to trade Alex Vesia,

738
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Speaker 2: who had had astounding Minor league numbers, but he struggled,

739
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: you know, pretty pretty Yeah, he struggled pretty badly with

740
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: the Marlins last year. So you know what, you make

741
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: that trade. You know, dyl Florie is a two way

742
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: three e ra. He got the save last night, pitched

743
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: him credit, struck out two guys to get to earn

744
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: the safe, his ninth of the year. He probably should

745
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: have been the closer to begin with, but you know,

746
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: he wasn't the big offseason signing like Anthony Bass. Zach

747
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: Popp has been a really nice surprise. That guy's stuff.

748
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 2: I was actually with a guy that played with him

749
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: in high school. He pop has nice stuff. He's a

750
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: good kid, and he's really pitched better since you know,

751
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: his rough start to the season. So him, I don't.

752
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: I guess Bass is coming back. I'm thin're gonna get

753
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: much value for him, but him, if you put Bass

754
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: in the seventh inning, he's one of the best seventh

755
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: inning pitches in all the Major League Baseball. Yeah, so

756
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: when you have Bender coming back, the bullpen is not

757
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: in such bad shape, especially if they end up keeping

758
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: Eliezer or someone like that to really or Zach Thompson's

759
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: a bullpen as well. So the bullpen isn't in such

760
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: bad add shape as most people might think. I definitely

761
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: think they can go out and get some more swing

762
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: and miss guys because this, you know, I don't know

763
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: what it is with this front office. They enjoy going

764
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: for like contact oriented guys, pitch to contact guys, and

765
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: in this you know time of Major League baseballhere people

766
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: are swinging missing like Hovey or bias. You go for

767
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: guys that can get and misses and gets strikeouts and

768
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: are averaging twelve thirteen strikeouts per nine innings. But I

769
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: think they'll go after one of those guys. But besides that,

770
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 2: they have some they have some pretty decent options right now.

771
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to miscreing trading next year.

772
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, in organization options, I mean, who can we mention

773
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: Cody Potite, a guy who if he comes back, that'd

774
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: be solid addition to the bullpen. You add Cody p User,

775
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: I think that would very much make the bullpen a

776
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: lot better than it is right now.

777
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, you said the bullpen wasn't that bad. It

778
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: really isn't.

779
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: But at the start of the season it was bad,

780
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: and then it started trending in the right direction. And

781
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: then gim me messes up a game, gim me messes

782
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: up another game.

783
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: He blows another.

784
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: Blowing up saves, which which is something that made the

785
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: biggest reason why trade him one year, made sense to

786
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: trade it. And then we get Brian de Lacruz and

787
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: then Yimmi's highlight, which is his first pitch on the Astros.

788
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: It's a bomb over to the bay in San Francisco.

789
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, you look at that trade.

790
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: It worked out for the Marlins.

791
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: Then they traded other guys like John Curtis for Peyton Henry.

792
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: He's been a pretty good surprise for this team right now,

793
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: and he.

794
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: Could be a guy who comes up done. He is

795
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: Rule five eligible.

796
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: John Curtis is injured, so Marlin's kind of won a

797
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 3: couple of trades. I mean, John Curtis wants to win.

798
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: But bullpen, I think another inorganization option, like you know,

799
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 3: in the organization, minor leaguer Daniel Castano. He's a guy

800
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: who's down. I think it would make sense for him

801
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: the pitch maybe an inning or two on the bullpen.

802
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: That would be a good option. Now, if you talk

803
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: about big fish guy like a big time player, to

804
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: really bring in, Craig Kimberle would be a cool option.

805
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: It would be maybe the best option there because he's

806
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: a guy who I think is gonna leave Chicago. I mean,

807
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: you can't even though Lean Hendrix and Craig Kimberle, both

808
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: of them, sounds absolutely great having both of them. I

809
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: think Kimberle goes to another team where I think he

810
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: could be used a lot better in this scenario because

811
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: you're gonna be swapping between Kimberl and Liam Hendricks and

812
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: they're not gonna get the same amount of time something

813
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: like that.

814
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: I mean, So Kimberl to Miami was.

815
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Speaker 3: Solidify him as a closer first of all, and it

816
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: would allow the Marlins really to get Sandy and get

817
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: Pablo if he's still on the team, because I know

818
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: we've talked about trading Pablo at some points in the

819
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: lives and the live streams uh. It would let him

820
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: go more innings, and you know, one Kimberrel steps in,

821
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: it would really be like, all right, you know, we're

822
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: not gonna really blow a save. It's gonna be hard

823
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: to see the Marlins blow a save, which it's been.

824
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: It's been the big issue this season. They're blowing saves

825
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: and that's something that we can't have in a major

826
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Speaker 3: league season for the.

827
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Speaker 2: Marlins at least. Yeah. No, and I don't I don't

828
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: really see the marl I it would be great. It's

829
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: more of a pipe tream probably. Yeah. Well, but I mean, hey,

830
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: very able to trade for the guys rather than go

831
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: sign a big fish like Marte or something like that.

832
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: Maybe they do, you know, reallocate some of that money

833
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 2: into a Craig Kimberl shut down closer. The guys are

834
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: two to one five er Ra for his career, a

835
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: two to one to five v Rapers career. Guys just

836
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: been phenomenal. He's been the best closer in baseball since

837
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: his Atlanta Braves days, which he's been just a nemesis

838
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: against the Marlins. Yeah. Boy, him in the back end

839
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: of this bullpen would be great. You have Flora in

840
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: the eighth, fast in the seventh, and you have guys

841
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: like Zach Pop and Anthony Bender behind them. This bullpen

842
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: could look pretty nice. If you sign a guy like

843
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: Kreik CAMBERLLL doesn't necessarily have to be, you know, the

844
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Speaker 2: probably the highest paid closer. Well, he's going to be,

845
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: you know, guys like Chapman and Jansen. But you get

846
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: a guy like this who can strike out the side

847
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: really easily, it'll be it'll do wonders for this ball club.

848
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna say which solidified a bullpen, but

849
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be the bullpen that we've seen this season.

850
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: It would be one that we're a lot more confident.

851
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: And because Flora has arbitration years, I mean, he has

852
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: his years of options and all that good stuff that

853
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: we'd love to see, so it would solidify for sure.

854
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 3: I mean you would see, just like you said, Flora,

855
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 3: the setup man, and then you have Kimberl. That's scary

856
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: when you really look at it, especially coming in playoff time.

857
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: If Tomorrow's reached.

858
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: That point, that's scary. But what would a contract look

859
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: like for Craig Kimberl. I don't know if he would

860
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 3: be the highest paid closer. I don't think he will because,

861
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 3: as you said, Chapman, Kenley Jansen, those kinds of guys

862
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: are absolute beasts, and it wouldn't make sense to really

863
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: pay Kimberl that kind of money, especially since he's been

864
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 3: very good this year. But he hasn't been the worldest

865
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: Chapman kind of you know.

866
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: No, well, Travin's had a a pretty pretty tough year

867
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: for the guy. But yeah, no, Well, criminal sign a

868
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 2: three year, forty three million dollars contract in twenty nineteen.

869
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: It's a twenty twenty two team option, so for the

870
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: white section you have to figure out whether or not

871
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: to exercise it. So if they don't, I would assume

872
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: it'd be a two year deal He's coming up on

873
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: thirty three years old, so maybe two and maybe a

874
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: three year deal would would for sure net him. But again,

875
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: this is the Marvels we're talking about. Let's let's first

876
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: get ourselves a catcher in a center fielder.

877
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously, and if they do take in that team option,

878
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: it would be some kind of a trade, which then

879
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: we we would have to go into trade scenarios, which

880
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: I think we've already done a lot with, especially throughout

881
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: the season when we're a little look at it, and

882
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: it's be crazy to see what the Marlins do because

883
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: they do have some guys on this team that they

884
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: they would have to get rid of, and especially and

885
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: I think one of those positions that.

886
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: I'm looking at right now is first base.

887
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 3: I mean, he's the sagular leywin d is Garrett Cooper,

888
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: Aguilar Cooper gonna have to go. And I think the

889
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 3: Oddoman out right now has been really Garrett Cooper because

890
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: he hasn't been good this season, but then right before

891
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: his injury, he was on a hot streak. I mean

892
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: he was really he was doing wonders for this team

893
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: and then gets injured in that Philadelphia game. That was

894
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: it just didn't end well for Cooper, and you know,

895
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: we're wishing him the best obviously. I mean, he's now rehabing,

896
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 3: so we'll see what happens. But hoping the National League

897
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: gets the DH. What happens in this scenario, right, you know,

898
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 3: quick thing on Cooper, very few guys inmjor league baseball

899
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: hit the ball hard as often as he does. He

900
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: really rolls the ball really often. He's I've been saying

901
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 3: it since twenty nineteen. I know, he got a really

902
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: bad start this year, like a UNC and it was hard,

903
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: you know, the bad start for Cooper, but he was

904
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: hitting the ball for a while really well before his injury,

905
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: and he really was like the number three, number four

906
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 3: hitter for this team. So the DH comes, you would

907
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: have liked to see laywin for two months rather than

908
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: just like these three weeks coming up in September. Yeah,

909
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 3: so right now, going I know, he hasn't looked good offensively,

910
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: but he's a great for his base in Defensively, We're

911
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: gonna have to see if he can hit major league pitching.

912
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: I guess they'll make their judgment on that over the

913
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: next three weeks, and if they like him, I think

914
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 3: they want to keep Aguilar as the DH, which would

915
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: be great because you have the better defender at first

916
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: and Aguilar can be a designated hitter and hit and

917
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: focused on hitting. And then Cooper, you're right, puts him

918
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: the ask the oddoman out or they want to you know,

919
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: roll the dice.

920
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: And put him in right field. Again, that's another option,

921
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: and they wouldn't really have to put you know, go

922
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: get another outfield, or they do need to center fielder,

923
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: so they put Hastick and left, Cooper and right who's

924
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: got a pretty strong arm out of the outfield. So

925
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: that's another option they can do. And that those are

926
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: three good hitters you're putting in the lineup with Cooper,

927
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: Aguilar and Diaz. So that's an option for sure. With

928
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: the DH coming in, I think we all agree that

929
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: it will be instilled this offseason. But yeah, we're to

930
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: miss seeing Cooper, but I think he'll be back. I

931
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: hope he'll be back, or he'll be trade babe. We'll

932
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: see yeah, and then we you know, we talk about

933
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: these guys who most likely we won't see. Brian Anderson's

934
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: one of them. I mean, Mitch said that the Marlins

935
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: really don't think Brian Anderson's the future of this team.

936
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: They don't see him as a guy in the future.

937
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: He has one more I think he has a couple

938
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 2: like options.

939
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 3: Left throughout the season. I know for next season he

940
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: would be on the team. The season after that, I

941
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: think he's a free agent. Correct me if I'm wrong.

942
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: But it's interesting to see who replaces Anderson. Yeah, know

943
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 3: he's got he's got a few years of control. He's

944
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: a free agent in twenty twenty four. Okay, And you know,

945
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: I know Craig said that, I don't really see it

946
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: because one, who who do you have playing there this?

947
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no one. You don't have any in

948
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 2: field prospects whatsoever. You know, they're all outfielders or pitchers.

949
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you have whohel Farro?

950
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: You have?

951
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: Who's the other guy you.

952
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: Have is on?

953
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 2: So it would make sense. And Brian Anderson, he's proven

954
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, he was one of the best hitters.

955
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, he had a great year as well.

956
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: He was okay in twenty twenty. This year he just

957
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: has not been able to say healthy, but he still

958
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: is one of the better hitters on the team. I

959
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: actually ran into him yesterday at a dog park. He

960
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: looks great. We're just deciding on shoulder surgery. I guess

961
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: whether or not for him, but he is just a

962
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: dynamic player. I think he fits right in for what

963
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: this team he's trying to do. He's a cool, competent guy.

964
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: His personality is great. He's got a canon of an arm,

965
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: like a Playma Chatto type arm that you can just

966
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: put anywhere he hits. He doesn't complain when he gets

967
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: hit by a pitch. He's just a easy guy that

968
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: I think the Marlins should say, like, yeah, he is

969
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: part of the future. It'll be I think right now

970
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: would be a great time to buy low. I think

971
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: there's a fish Stripes article on that now would be

972
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: a fantastic time to buy low on Brian Anderson signent

973
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: to what like maybe three year, four year extension for

974
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: not that much money, because you know, he's putting off

975
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: a couple of interesting seasons. So yeah, I think Brian

976
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: Anderson definitely should be part of the part of the future.

977
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: And then you know, there is actually a question I

978
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: wanted to ask you because we saw Brian Anderson in

979
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: right field playing the outfield actually twenty nineteen, where would

980
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 3: you rather have the third base or the outfield, because

981
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: he looked good in the outfield too.

982
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting question because I was so mad

983
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: at him being in right field. He's one of the

984
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: best defensive third basements I've seen, and they put him

985
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: in right field and get upset. He's gonna get injured.

986
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: He's gonna get injured. He's going against the wall. He

987
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: almost sprains his finger, and now with his shoulder injury,

988
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: it's a left shoulder. Any ball to the left, it's

989
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: gonna scare me. You know, it's gonna scare anyone. So

990
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: right now, I don't know if the better decision is

991
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 2: for him to go under the knife or maybe just

992
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: rehabit all the way until spring training. But right now,

993
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: maybe right field is an option. There's another guy that

994
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: you can put in the outfield because he's got a

995
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: cannon in right field. He's so dynastic. He can play

996
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: anywhere you ask him to. I'm sure you can play

997
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: short sup if you ask him to. So Brian Anderson,

998
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: it used to be that third base and put him

999
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 2: at third base, but now with the shoulder, any dive

1000
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: he play to the left could really you know, cause

1001
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: some serious trauma to that shoulder. So I don't know

1002
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: what the Marlins were thinking. I don't know what's going

1003
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: on in their head to maybe put him in right field.

1004
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: That might be an option, but we'll have the wait

1005
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: till spring training to see. Yeah.

1006
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: I think I was always that advocate to really get

1007
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: Anderson at right field because cannon of an arm.

1008
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 2: This guy not that reminds me that John Carlos stand

1009
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: on because I.

1010
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 3: Think I told you guys this already, but his Sanchez

1011
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: really reminds me that because man, that outfield right now,

1012
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 3: Miami's outfield has cannons. Yeah, Canon, you look at Brinson.

1013
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: Brinceton has never really doubted me defensively, He's always been good.

1014
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: Maggs is Mags, there's not much to say about him.

1015
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: But I mean, yeah, ye Laywin laywhen we did see

1016
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: in left field, but that's probably something maybe mentioned later.

1017
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: Uh well, another option there, Laywen if he really pans out.

1018
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: But who was the other guy was Jez Sanchez?

1019
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: Brian de la Cruz.

1020
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: Brian de la Cruz has been very good defensively, but

1021
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 3: Ba is a guy who I think could very much

1022
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: be in that conversation to me, I at least put

1023
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 3: in left field, see how he fares out there, because

1024
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: I know we only saw him in right field in

1025
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. But you know, he has a lot of

1026
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: good mobility, especially playing third base, you need to have

1027
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: good mobility to get those balls. And you know, seeing

1028
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: a guy like Brian Anderson, that would make a lot

1029
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: of sense. And you know, we talk about all these

1030
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: dream scenarios, but and and some of them actually could

1031
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: be realistic. But the real realistic ones, you know that

1032
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: kind of the my I mean Marlin kind of moves,

1033
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 3: you know, those bringing in Brandon Kinseler, Matt Joyce kind

1034
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: of deals. Which which players would you assume the Marlins

1035
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: bring on that kind of a deal.

1036
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: I think one of the guys mentioned for the catching

1037
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: position would be Jan Gohms type guy. You know, he

1038
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: will be too expensive. He's had a pretty good year

1039
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: this year actually offensively, and he'd be someone that can

1040
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: see the Marlins and he I think he's the one

1041
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: that like Homard Off six so twice last year. I

1042
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: don't remember. I think it was. He's a guy that

1043
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: I could see the Marlins signing a guy like that

1044
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: little fringe catcher, third fourth tier guy that wouldn't be

1045
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: too expensive. Yeah, and I.

1046
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: Mentioned this to you guys a while ago. But Larry Garcia,

1047
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 3: I mean the guys with John Birdie two point oho.

1048
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 3: But he's been pretty good this season, high batting average.

1049
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: I know he's batting better than Bertie. He had a

1050
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 3: lot more rbs. But Bertie, though, he's a guy who's

1051
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: been a little bit, a little bit injured up.

1052
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: He has a concussion. We don't know if he's going

1053
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: to come back this season.

1054
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: We actually have we heard nothing about Bertie's ever since

1055
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: the ever since they put him on the seven day

1056
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: al I don't know they made that a ten days

1057
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: or sixty day I already, But you know, Liarry could

1058
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: be a guy who plays a lot of outfield. He

1059
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: could pretty much play every position except the catcher in

1060
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: the first space and obviously pitching. But yeah, that would

1061
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 3: be one of those utility options in the in the

1062
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: Marlins because injuries have been in a big situation. So

1063
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 3: getting that guy from the Chicago White Sox would make

1064
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: a lot of sense. And I don't think it would

1065
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: be a huge deal either. I mean, maybe a one

1066
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: year deal, maybe two three million dollars would make some

1067
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: kind of sense. And then you have you know, Andrew Chaffman,

1068
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: which we talked about that would probably be some kind

1069
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: of minor league deal. Finally, I think I would say,

1070
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Speaker 3: but Sandy Leone could be an option to bring back

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Speaker 3: next season.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna it's just for the.

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00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: Defense and the way he works the young guys. If

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00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 3: it wasn't for him, I don't know where Trevor would

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00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: be right now. I don't know if he would have

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00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: gotten to Rookie of the Month awards because Sandy Leone

1077
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: was really good with Trevor, I mean, and then you

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00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: look how I did with Edward. I don't know if

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00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 3: he's caught for Edward yet, but all these young guys

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00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: that we're seeing, a lot of guys are preferring Sandy

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00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: Leone over a.

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00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: Farah for sure. Yeah. No, of course, another guy of

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00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: former Marlin farmhand, Mark Kenna. I think he could be

1084
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: an option for leftfield gig for the Marlins this year perhaps.

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00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think those two guys, Young Games and Markenna,

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00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: I think those are two attractive, you know, and available

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00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: and affordable guys that the Marlins could go after.

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00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: Yep, And now we're gonna step away from Marlins talk

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna go to MLB talk, you know, just

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00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: general MLB talk, MLB playoffs, it's on the horizon. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna go in to a little bit of prediction time here,

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00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 3: not serious prediction, but playoff predictions. Who makes the playoffs?

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00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: And let's start with the American League. Who makes the

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00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: playoffs in the American League.

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00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think out of the East it's

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00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: gonna be either their Tampa Bay race. That team is

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00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: just so freaking good. They know what they're doing. They

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00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: have a guy, I don't know if you heard of him,

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00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: Wander Franco's just gone on bait. I read a stat

1100
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: that he has struck out I think three or four

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00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: times in his last hundred at bats at nineteen years

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00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: old or twenty years old, however old he is. So

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00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 2: you know, I think the Rays come out of the East.

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00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: He is just a phenomenal ballplayer. And then you got

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00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: the White Sox coming out of the Central think for sure,

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00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: and then probably it's gonna be Huston. I kind of

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00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: wanted Oakland to come out of the West and catch

1108
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: up see Starling Martin in the playoffs. Maybe look in

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00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: the wildcard, but yeah, it'll be those three teams coming

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00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: out of the Division. And then you got to assume

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00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: it's gonna be Boston or New York, Boston and New

1112
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: York coming out of the out of the wildcard.

1113
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: Okay, and what's your prediction for the National League?

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00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: The Marlins will maybe not just kidding you know, throughout

1115
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: this last live stream for fish Stripes, that'll we all

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00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: assume it might it'd probably be the Braids. I think

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00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: the Phillies had the best chance and maybe coming coming

1118
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: back and taking over the first spot. But I think

1119
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: it will be the Atlanta Braids. I think they're just

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00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: very good. They have the Marlins coming into town. Not

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00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: so you know, tune on the Marlins a little bit,

1122
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: but yeah, they have the Marlins to beat up on

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00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: a little bit this week. And yeah, and then I

1124
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: think Milwaukee's had a phenomenal year, and that's without a

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00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: good year from Christian Yeliche, which they've just really surprised you.

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00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: I did not see them being that good of a

1127
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: ball club. And out of the West, I think the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers end up coming back and taking you from the

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00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: Giants for sure, And it'll be the Giants that get

1130
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: one of the wildcard teams will be the San Francisco Giants,

1131
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: and then from there it could either be the Cincinnati

1132
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: Reds or we assumed it'd be the Padres, but there's

1133
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: a chance that the Padres don't come out of the

1134
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: National League, which is, you know, pretty surprising, but I

1135
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: think it'll be the especially Yeah.

1136
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: And American League quickly. You know, it's hard because that

1137
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: that American League East is looking very very good. I

1138
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: mean Tampa Boston, who I think may have been the

1139
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: biggest surprise of this season. And then you have New

1140
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 3: York who at the biggest trade deadline winners. You get

1141
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: Anthony Rizzo, Joey Gallo, you got I'm missing someone for sure,

1142
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: I'm missing someone, I think Rizzo. Yeah, I mean, the

1143
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 3: Yankees really have a chance. I don't think they'll get it, though,

1144
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: I mean I think that it's a little bit too late.

1145
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: They're pitching really hasn't been the greatest season. Besides Garrett Cole.

1146
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: You signed Corey Klueber, he had the no hitter and

1147
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: then he gets injured. So you know, I'm gonna go

1148
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: Tampa with you. Tampa is just that team that you

1149
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: think isn't gonna win. You really don't think, but the

1150
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 3: way they do things in that organization is is really

1151
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: just impressive. You have one of the Franco You've got

1152
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 3: Nelson Cruz in the deadline. Pitching has been pretty good,

1153
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: and you know you lost Tyler Glass now, but it's

1154
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: been able to hold up who else am amazing Raindy

1155
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: Rose and arena hasn't been that a Rose arena that

1156
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: we've been hearing from in the playoffs. But he's been

1157
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 3: solid and he's been helped, you know, able to help

1158
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 3: out the team. Then we haven't the central. I think

1159
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: that that's easy. It's gonna be the White Sox. You know,

1160
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: a team that's really surprised me in that central really

1161
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: and they're not gonna do anything. But it's been the

1162
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions, I mean, really good season. When you look

1163
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: at it, you know they're under five hundred obviously, but

1164
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: isn't one of those forty wins seasons for fifty one seasons.

1165
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: They're at sixty six wins right now, sixty six and

1166
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 3: seventy five. So you know, our old friend Miguel Caburra's

1167
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: on that team. He is five hundredth homer not.

1168
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: Too long ago. So yeah, and then then the West.

1169
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Houston.

1170
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: You know, a team that you know, the cheaters man,

1171
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: and that's the only thing we could say now, But

1172
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: it's a team who's really been good. They you know

1173
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 3: under I think it's Dusty Baker. Still, it's been impressive.

1174
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: I mean you have jose L two Vey, Carlos Correa,

1175
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: very good pitching rotation, yes, Zach Granky, So it's been

1176
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: very impressive on that end. And then you have Oakland

1177
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: and then Seattle, which is a team that has been

1178
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: very fun to watch. I think they just shut down

1179
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: Kyle Lewis for the season, so that's been very difficult

1180
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 3: to see. You know, Jared Keller Nick we saw back

1181
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 3: in the Biggs, not back for the first time in

1182
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 3: the Bigs. Their pitching has been solid. They got I

1183
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: think it was Kendall Graveman they got from the Astros.

1184
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: It was a funny situation because it was you know,

1185
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 3: that trade went down during that series and then they

1186
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: swapped benches and it was just it was a weird

1187
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: sight to see. And yeah, Oakland would be very nice.

1188
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: I think we're all gonna root for Oakland if if

1189
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: they make the playoffs because we want to see Marte

1190
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: have the most success possible on that team. And then Wildcard,

1191
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: I think it'll be Boston in New York. Toronto is

1192
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 3: gonna be a team to really watch out in that wildcard.

1193
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: Oakland as well, obviously because that This American League is

1194
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 3: very interesting and it's very tight when it comes to

1195
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 3: where their standings are at right now. But yeah, we'll

1196
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: see what happens on that end. Nationally, we said this

1197
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 3: breaks would win it Phillies or Mets or I mean,

1198
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 3: the only teams that are really gonna contest that. But

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Speaker 3: I think the Marlin Joly spoiled the Mets this series

1200
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: that they won two games to three, which you predicted correctly.

1201
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: You know now they're under five hundred. So yeah, and

1202
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: then Central it's between Milwauk and Cincinnati. I think Milwaukee

1203
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: takes it. Cincinnati. It's a little bit too late now,

1204
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: but they have time. And then you have the West.

1205
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 3: You have San Francisco, LA and the Dodgers. It's a

1206
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: three team race. San Francisco takes it. They made that

1207
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 3: trade for Chris Bryant. They got a good deal for

1208
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 3: Chris Bryant. They didn't have to give up Joey Bart,

1209
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: they didn't have to give up the guy that we

1210
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: were raising for now I forgot his name because he's

1211
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: no longer gonna be connected to the mode, Helio Ramos. Yeah,

1212
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 3: and then we look at the wild card. I'm gonna

1213
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 3: go LA and Cincinnati get the wild card. San Diego

1214
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 3: doesn't make it it. Cincinnati is just a team that

1215
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: has maybe the National League MVP and Joey Vado.

1216
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be.

1217
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: Interesting see what happens there. And I think we're gonna

1218
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: end it right here. I mean anything else you really

1219
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: want to mention aze it?

1220
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: No, I just what what a disappointment, a disappointing season

1221
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: it would have been for San Diego. It'll make it

1222
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: right coming up that year they have last year started

1223
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: getting Blake Snelly, getting you Darbash and then missing the

1224
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: playoffs completely. It would be would be hell. It would

1225
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: be very strange. But anyway, Yeah, yeah, the Mets too.

1226
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 2: Nothing more lol Mets than the and then not making

1227
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 2: the playoffs with their three hundred and forty million dollar guy.

1228
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna end it here. Uh, fifteen minute recording.

1229
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: I think that's more great. That's great because we know

1230
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 3: a lot of talking, a lot of off season Talk

1231
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 3: Marlin's Talk. These episodes are gonna get real good. I mean,

1232
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 3: what we have.

1233
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Speaker 2: Ready for you for you guys in the future.

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00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: For sure, we're gonna get some of the Fish Stripes

1235
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: of boys on here for sure as special guests. Hopefully

1236
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 3: we get some kind of you know, some minor leaguers

1237
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: we already and media guys which you know, you guys

1238
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: have seen on the live stream, so you will be

1239
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: kind of familiar with a lot of these guys, especially

1240
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 3: from Twitter, which you follow. You know, let us know

1241
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 3: the comments on YouTube and on Twitter. You just tag

1242
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: me and Isaac on Twitter and let us know what

1243
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 3: you guys thought about this first episode. You know, make

1244
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 3: sure to subscribe to the channel, the fish Stripes channel,

1245
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: and subscribe to all the Apple podcasts, Spotify, wherever you

1246
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: could listen wherever you listen to the podcast on Fish Strips.

1247
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, any last words, Isaac.

1248
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: No, that's about it. It's gonna be a pleasure doing

1249
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: this with you bi weekly. You know, we're gonna come

1250
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 2: to you with some fun stuff hopefully, well, get some

1251
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: players on here. And yeah, make sure to send us

1252
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: your questions if you ever have any.

1253
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 3: YEP, my name is Kevin with Isaac and we'll see

1254
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 3: you guys on the next one.

1255
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Speaker 2: Go fish, oh Brad. Here everybody