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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to episode number seventy of the Marine Layer Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's our mailbag episode. We'll answer some listeners submitted questions.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rangers win the World series will wrap up our

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<v Speaker 1>World series talk, and the hot stove is already cooking

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<v Speaker 1>for Jerry to Poto Shocker. First day of the offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>He's already made a trade. We'll discuss that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Rolling and we welcome you to this episode of the

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<v Speaker 3>Marine Layer podcast, part of the Just Baseball Podcast network,

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<v Speaker 3>recording here on Thursday afternoon, November second, and the Texas

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<v Speaker 3>Rangers are World Series champions.

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<v Speaker 2>Big sigh, major major side. This team really went from

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eight wins to World champions in one year. So

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<v Speaker 2>what the Mariners have spent years trying to do Rangers

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<v Speaker 2>did in one season.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, two seasons, but I mean yeah, in building, I

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<v Speaker 1>think two seasons. But you're right. They did win sixty

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<v Speaker 1>eight games last season. The Mariners thoroughly dominated the Rangers

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two, and in twenty twenty three, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a different story. Their free agent signings hit all the boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>They knocked it out of the park. Their young players

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<v Speaker 1>played as well as young players have played across the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Carter is a future star in this league. At

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<v Speaker 1>just twenty one years of age, he was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best players on their roster, one of the youngest

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<v Speaker 1>cleanup hitters ever on a World Series team. That was him.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the end, the Rangers' weaknesses didn't rear their heads.

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<v Speaker 1>They got hot. Everyone played well at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on the other side, the Arizona Diamondbacks in

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<v Speaker 1>the World Series looked like an eighty four win team.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my conclusion from that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't even want to be sitting here talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the Rangers. I just want to ignore it and

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<v Speaker 2>move on, which is why. Hey, the second dep final

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<v Speaker 2>out was recorded last night. What did I tweet out? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's offseason time, with a picture of Julio and show hey,

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<v Speaker 2>both in Mariner's gear.

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<v Speaker 1>People took well to it, too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would hope. So we got to arguably the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest player of all time hitting free agency, are arguably

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<v Speaker 2>the best free agent ever. I'd hope people would take

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<v Speaker 2>kindly to it, except for the few people that somehow

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<v Speaker 2>exist out there that say I don't want him, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>wake up people.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we've just been sitting here and complaining about a

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<v Speaker 1>lack of talent on the roster, lack of outside edition,

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<v Speaker 1>and when the best possible option comes available, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>eh them, I'm good. No, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's false that like takes are objectively opinionated. No, that

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<v Speaker 2>is a incorrect take.

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<v Speaker 1>My biggest takeaway from this World Series overall. While though

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<v Speaker 1>while the Rangers celebrated a real championship yesterday, winning the

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<v Speaker 1>World Series in five games, I'd say the real champion

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<v Speaker 1>of this week are the teams that have their twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six pay roll in order, and that bottom line

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<v Speaker 1>looks really good.

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<v Speaker 2>I did laugh at the tweet that was put out

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<v Speaker 2>last night after the World Series that said world series,

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<v Speaker 2>winning a World Series and those memories are probably just

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<v Speaker 2>a step below of acquiring club controllable players that are

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<v Speaker 2>all mediocre to put on your roster for the next decade.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, pretty much. And another highlight from yesterday is

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<v Speaker 1>after Corey Seger wins the World Series MVP, some reporter

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<v Speaker 1>decides that he's just gonna ask him why the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>didn't resign him into which Cory Zeger is like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. And in the end, I got three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty five million dollars that now have a chance

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<v Speaker 1>a ring on my finger.

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<v Speaker 2>What did that reporter expect him to say? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think he was gonna leak details about his free agency

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago? Of course not.

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<v Speaker 1>The context of the question was worse. It's like, people

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<v Speaker 1>keep texting me this all the time, so I just

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<v Speaker 1>have to ask it. It's like, no, you don't, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just make this all about me. You could

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<v Speaker 2>see Corey Seger turn to the PR person and gave

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<v Speaker 2>him the eyes. It's like, can we move on to

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<v Speaker 2>the next question, which I don't blame him. Hey, did

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<v Speaker 2>you hear, by the way, with the Rangers winning the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series, there's now only five teams to never make it.

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<v Speaker 2>I say that as if we didn't just talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that on the last show before they actually won the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series. But those graphics were everywhere on Wednesday night

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<v Speaker 2>after they won. It's like, well, there's only five teams

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<v Speaker 2>now that have never won the World Series, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know who one of them is. It's the same team

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only franchise to never make a World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's only one franchise left in the American League

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<v Speaker 1>West who's never won one either. The list shrinks. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the first reaction I said. I think I texted

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<v Speaker 1>it to you, and I texted it to my family

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<v Speaker 1>or family group chat. That was the first thing I

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<v Speaker 1>sent after the Rangers clinched. It wasn't let's get it

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<v Speaker 1>rolling in the off season. It's not a come here show. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a congrats to the Rangers. It's nope, the

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<v Speaker 1>list shrinks. It's my only takeaway.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not a happy camper when the Nationals made

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series back in twenty nineteen, because it was

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<v Speaker 2>just such a level of embarrassment to be an m'stan.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the point where they were right in

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<v Speaker 2>the early stages of that rebuild too. They had the

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<v Speaker 2>awful season in twenty nineteen. It was a boring roster

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<v Speaker 2>there were again, it was like the bare bone stages

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<v Speaker 2>of that rebuild. And then, oh, by the way, the

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<v Speaker 2>Nationals not only make the World Series but win it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, wow, this is this is insufferable.

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<v Speaker 1>What would be the worst case scenario for the next

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<v Speaker 1>team to win it? I think we said it already

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<v Speaker 1>is the Rockies, right, I think the if the Rockies

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<v Speaker 1>won a World Series that would probably be that would

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<v Speaker 1>so that would that would make you the only team

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<v Speaker 1>who's never won a World Series game in your franchise

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<v Speaker 1>history like that, that would probably be the next worst.

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<v Speaker 2>It would absolutely be the Rockies in terms of worst

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<v Speaker 2>case scenario because the other three teams, the Padres, Rays

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<v Speaker 2>and Brewers, they're all mostly in contentions, so it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like it'd be some utter shock if one of those

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<v Speaker 2>teams won or if the Rockies won, considering the stage

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<v Speaker 2>that they're at right now, Ugh, that'd be really bad overall.

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<v Speaker 1>Congrats to the Rangers. But with the Rangers winning yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, that means the offseason started as of today.

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<v Speaker 1>And did we think Jerry Depota was gonna sit out

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<v Speaker 1>for for an entire day of the offseason. Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry has already swung a trade. Everyone's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>just thrilled for this, over the moon excited he swapped.

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<v Speaker 1>He acquired Cody Bolton, a reliever from the Pirates, for

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<v Speaker 1>cash considerations. Did you jump out of jump out of

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<v Speaker 1>your seat when you saw this?

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<v Speaker 2>What did I tweet last night after the Rangers won

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series? Or Wednesday night when you're listening to this,

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<v Speaker 2>I tweeted, you know we're gonna wake up on Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>and Jerry will have made a trade. Well, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>quite wake up, but on Thursday afternoon he made a trade,

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<v Speaker 2>which I just pictured Jerry Depoto watching that World Series

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<v Speaker 2>and seeing the Rangers win, immediately turning to the clock

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<v Speaker 2>as if he's waiting to watch the ball drop in

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<v Speaker 2>times Square on New Year's Eve, It's like ten nine

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<v Speaker 2>eight seven, and then the like and then the clock

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<v Speaker 2>hit zero, except instead of celebrating with everybody around him,

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<v Speaker 2>then the scene immediately changes to the Wolf of Wall

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<v Speaker 2>Street and you see the scene with everybody on the phone,

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<v Speaker 2>cold calling, just losing their minds. You see Jerry as

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<v Speaker 2>like the head man, the Jordan Belferd. He's ordering all

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<v Speaker 2>his minions, like you call this team, you call this team,

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<v Speaker 2>you call this Team's like we're making a trade today,

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<v Speaker 2>and they made a trade today. Just just this man

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<v Speaker 2>can't help himself, he really can. It's like day one

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<v Speaker 2>that he can possibly make trades again. He makes a.

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<v Speaker 1>Trade and Bolton fits the he fits the reliever mold

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<v Speaker 1>because you see his stats. What's he's got a career

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<v Speaker 1>seven ERA and what twenty five innings? That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a six three three ERA and twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>and a third career innings pitched.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh. So Jerry sees that. And when Jerry acquires a

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<v Speaker 1>player like that, it's not that dissimilar to Justin Topa

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<v Speaker 1>or Gabe Spier of last season. And you see that

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, okay, so I can already picture Cody

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<v Speaker 1>Bolton fifty innings about a two six ERA a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven percent strikeout rate, a walk rate of about seven

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<v Speaker 1>percent in a nasty slider, which, by the way, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about actual plus things about Cody Bolton, we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the stuff plus metric from fan grabs his

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<v Speaker 1>stuff plus on his sweepers on d and twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very good pitch with good wift rates and

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<v Speaker 1>good hard hit rates against that pitch as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Jerry had had that one circled. He knew what

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so one twenty eight. That's for those who don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff plus is measured the same way as the stats

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<v Speaker 2>like WRC plus, r ERA plus, where it's on a

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred scale. So by his sweeper metrics, the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>of it is twenty eight percent above league average. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that's what stands out to him. They say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>right handed reliever with a good sweeper, we can work

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<v Speaker 2>with that. We've only had one to ten, fifteen to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty guys in the last three years have good sweepers

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<v Speaker 2>and work out in our bullpen, so he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>why not add another? So Cody Bolton could be a

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<v Speaker 2>nothing burger. He could just hang out in triple A

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<v Speaker 2>all year, or he could be the next Justin Topa

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<v Speaker 2>for all we know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he's going to get some major league time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be on the forty man roster, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've cycled through some relievers, and they're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of open bullpen spots next year, at least

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<v Speaker 1>spots that will be competed for. We imagine Perlander Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>is going to grab a spot for next season. Still

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why he wasn't there at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, but regardless, and I would imagine Cody Bolton

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<v Speaker 1>wons spring training, rolls around with his stuff, We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to showcase his short term availability in the

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<v Speaker 1>bullpen and see how much that stuff really ticks up

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<v Speaker 1>in that bullpen. Overall, though, this trade is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>filling out the forty man roster. The Mariners did shed

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<v Speaker 1>some forty man guys earlier this week as they were

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for as they were getting ready for this offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>and for all those sixty day IL guys. Once this

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<v Speaker 1>offseason starts, you got to put him back on the

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<v Speaker 1>forty man roster because the season's over officially, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to clear some spots for that and clear

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<v Speaker 1>up some spots for guys that you're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and acchoir like Bolton did. Right now, I will

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<v Speaker 1>say I did think that this is a Seahawks deep cut.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they traded for Cody Barton for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really really confused. But I think Cody Bolton

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<v Speaker 1>might be actually might be a little bit better than

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<v Speaker 1>Cody Barton.

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<v Speaker 2>You whin did Cody Barton learn to throw ninety five

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<v Speaker 2>miles an hour?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe you would have played linebacker a little bit

0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:11.440
<v Speaker 1>better if he could throw that hard, more more natural athleticism. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go. So if you want to already play

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<v Speaker 2>it out, if you're a fan trying to think about

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<v Speaker 2>the bullpen for twenty twenty four in your head, A

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<v Speaker 2>lot can change between now an opening day, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>But as it sits right now, there's six guys that

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<v Speaker 2>are all but guaranteed to have a spot. Munno's Brash

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<v Speaker 2>topa Spire Sasado, Isaiah Campbell. We assume Prelander Bureau would

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<v Speaker 2>get one of the spots. So that's seven, and as

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<v Speaker 2>we now sit again as of today, a lot can change,

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<v Speaker 2>but it would probably be Cody Bolton Caleb Ord, who

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<v Speaker 2>they also picked up a couple of weeks ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>Edward Bizardo who would probably fight for that last spot.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where it stands right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of changes the season goes along, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of change as we get to spring training,

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<v Speaker 1>and guys are in varying levels of health, but very

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<v Speaker 1>on brand for Jerry to Poto to make a move,

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<v Speaker 1>make a move like this so quickly, so good for Jerry.

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<v Speaker 1>time lyle. This is the first, I think, official mail

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<v Speaker 1>bag episode we have done, and we definitely got some

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<v Speaker 1>some very interesting questions. So let's kick it off with

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<v Speaker 1>our first question in our mail bag. Up first from Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>who would you want to trade for that's not Juan Soto?

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<v Speaker 1>And he adds, after this question, I'd be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>part with Bryce Miller and Emerson Hancock over Brian Wu.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the latter half of that statement is probably everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody probably realizes of those three guys, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy with the highest ceiling is, no doubt, Brian Wu.

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<v Speaker 2>But he also may be what it costs to get

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<v Speaker 2>true impact bat back, a true ImpACTA back. There we

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<v Speaker 2>go in terms of guys they could trade for. If

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about real impact guys, well, you know I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say right, say it please.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert, Yeah, just Brian Wu and Gabby Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all the white Sox fans. You're gonna come at

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<v Speaker 2>me you're gonna try to throw some punches, you gonna

0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.640
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna call us morons for our takes. Again, we're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting right here, let us know no. But in all seriousness,

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<v Speaker 2>the reason we threw out the Louise Robert trade, and

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<v Speaker 2>I still stand by it, is there's not that many

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<v Speaker 2>star bats out there that would probably even be floated

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<v Speaker 2>out there this winter. He's one of the few that

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<v Speaker 2>might even have a chance. So if that's the type

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<v Speaker 2>of player you're talking about, there's not that many. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about a step below that, well then we

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<v Speaker 2>could get into that here a little bit. There's some

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<v Speaker 2>guys on the next level down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Brendan Donovan, Lars Newbar, a couple of the Cardinals guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and we constantly have conversation about the Mariners trading for

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<v Speaker 1>one of the Oriole's younger bats. But in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>proven guys out there, you're right. It's that's why everyone

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<v Speaker 1>starts at Juan Sota because true impact is him, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that is it, and Luis Robert would be it

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<v Speaker 1>too if those guys end up being available, And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I wasn't totally sold Jan Soda would be available.

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<v Speaker 1>But the news that came out about the Padres this week.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually had to take out a fifty million dollars

0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:03.360
<v Speaker 1>loan in September to help finance things like payroll at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the season, because even with all their

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<v Speaker 1>sellouts and their TV deal, they weren't making enough money

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<v Speaker 1>to pay all their players, which I thought was very, very,

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<v Speaker 1>very fascinating. So like they do need some salary relief,

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<v Speaker 1>and Juan Soto off the books would would definitely be that,

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<v Speaker 1>but not in Soto. I think those are the three

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<v Speaker 1>tiers would think of it. It's like Luis Robert Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>guys where that dialogu's already existed, and then the Orioles

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<v Speaker 1>because they have such a surplus. Unless someone has a

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<v Speaker 1>better idea for us, those seem like the most obvious options.

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<v Speaker 2>Brendan Donovan would make a lot of sense. He can

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<v Speaker 2>play a couple of infield spots. He is more proven

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<v Speaker 2>than some of the other guys that have been floated

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<v Speaker 2>out there in trades where he's had a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>seasons where he has proven that he can hit above

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<v Speaker 2>average or well above average at the big league level.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I wouldn't say well above average but he

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<v Speaker 2>is a good big league hitter already, and he's young,

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<v Speaker 2>he's club controllable. I throw one more crazy idea out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>This is much more in the Louisse Robert category. And

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<v Speaker 2>I can't take credit for this. So I was listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Extra Innings, which is Ryan Divish's podcast he has

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<v Speaker 2>with Larry Stone Madam Jude. They had our friend Jordan

0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.359
<v Speaker 2>Schusterman on from Cesspa to Stanley Barbecue, and Jordan was

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<v Speaker 2>not saying this is gonna happen, but he was saying

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<v Speaker 2>more along the lines of what we're saying is throwing

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<v Speaker 2>some crazy ideas out there, like just what if? Just

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<v Speaker 2>what if? In this crazy universe? The Blue Jays ever

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about move on? Let me try that again. Would

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<v Speaker 2>the Blue Jays ever think about moving on from Bladdie Junior?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, Like what inclination? Have they given

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<v Speaker 1>any signs that they would not?

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<v Speaker 2>Externally? But he's about to hit arbitration. He doesn't play

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<v Speaker 2>much defense. He didn't have a great year this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like, probably not right. So again, we're

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<v Speaker 2>throwing crazy ideas out here. That's what I'll say.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a crazy idea, absolutely I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the most surprising thing in the world, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say that. I'll say that at least seeing some

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<v Speaker 1>like response from the fans that aren't too happy with

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<v Speaker 1>how Vlattie is turned out, especially as a hitter. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're actually trying to think of this in a

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<v Speaker 1>baseball sense, would it allow as you as a Mariner fan,

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<v Speaker 1>would it make sense that Vladdie is his offense has

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<v Speaker 1>regressed significantly since that twenty amazing twenty twenty one season

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<v Speaker 1>he'd have. Would it make sense that he all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden finds it in the least hitter friendly ballpark

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be banking on that twenty twenty three was

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<v Speaker 2>a down year for him, and his normal offensive production

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<v Speaker 2>would be somewhere between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>So like about what he did in twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>is what I assume Laddie would be. For the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>his WRC plus was about one thirty in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't have to put up a one sixty like

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<v Speaker 2>he did in twenty one, but one thirty, and as

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<v Speaker 2>we know OPS plus WRC plus those are park adjusted numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>So if he came to Seattle, I would I would

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<v Speaker 2>more than take one twenty five one thirty WRC plus

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<v Speaker 2>out of Laddie. And they need first base help. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt about that. Obviously. I like, we all like

0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:09.919
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Locklayer, and we can dream on what he would be.

0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.320
<v Speaker 2>But we're talking about what is objectively an unproven commodity

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<v Speaker 2>versus a guy that is a three time all start.

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<v Speaker 1>What would that cost that was? So that would cost locklearer,

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<v Speaker 1>that will cost WU at least that'll cost Harry Ford

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<v Speaker 1>mm hmm. And I'm probably gonna have to add one

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<v Speaker 1>more blue chip for three years of Laddie. I was three.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was gonna say those three because you get

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<v Speaker 2>six years of WU, you get a rookie Harry Ford

0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.919
<v Speaker 2>in every debuts, and then yeah, Locklayers a first baseman.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're right, maybe I.

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<v Speaker 1>Still think it probably takes one more.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you have to throw Kalnick in that package?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>A big LEAGUERU. Yeah. I don't know if there are

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<v Speaker 1>any Blue Jays fans or people know any Blue Jays fans,

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<v Speaker 1>please send this trade proposal and see if it would

0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:59.000
<v Speaker 1>make sense. So that would be wu Ford, kell Nick

0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and who will still I throw in that lock and Locklear. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they have their first basement of the future as

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<v Speaker 1>well in theory. Yeah, it could cost more than that because,

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<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned three time all stories, not even is

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<v Speaker 1>he twenty four yet.

0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's he's closer to twenty five than he is

0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:18.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty four, but he is still twenty four years of.

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<v Speaker 1>Age, right, He's still young. He's still got probably the

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<v Speaker 1>best years of his career ahead of him. And man,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes a lot of sense. That would make a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense if he was available. Now, the question

0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.120
<v Speaker 1>is if the Blue Jays believe he's going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>it around, he's not available, because that's a pretty valuable

0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.280
<v Speaker 1>commodity to have on your team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Again, and we're not saying this is happening, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're throwing out crazy ideas. Again credit to our friend

0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Schusterman who threw this out there. So we're just

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.240
<v Speaker 2>banking off what he talked about and kind of diving

0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:50.920
<v Speaker 2>in a little bit further. And if you want to

0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.080
<v Speaker 2>hear him talk about it, it's on the Extra Ending

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:57.359
<v Speaker 2>podcast with Ryan Divish, another friend of the program. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is like a one percent chance of happening.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're just we're just throwing crazy ideas out there.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're talking about what impact bats could be out

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<v Speaker 2>there that you can trade for, talked about Robert, Now

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about Vladdie players like that, you would have

0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:13.280
<v Speaker 2>to get very very creative and you would have to

0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.000
<v Speaker 2>give up a lot in a trade package, obviously, like

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<v Speaker 2>what would make the most sense and a trade it

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<v Speaker 2>if this question from Sean is like, who's a realistic

0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 2>trade package that's not Juan Soto? Yeah, I think somebody

0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:25.760
<v Speaker 2>like Brendon Donovan would make a lot of sense. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you're like the fact that Sean threw the name

0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Won Soto in this package says to me that he's

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<v Speaker 2>looking for guys like Juan Soto, Like who could be

0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:36.960
<v Speaker 2>a crazy guy they trade for. So while it would

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<v Speaker 2>be very very unlikely somebody like Laddie.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's just there's not that many people else like

0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:47.200
<v Speaker 1>those players are not available. There's like it's so rare

0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that a Jan Soto is available and why it was

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.560
<v Speaker 1>so shocking he was traded the first time, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>the second time. So if you have any good ideas,

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<v Speaker 1>please hit her comments section, send us an email, leave

0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 1>us a voicemail whatever you can find. That all in

0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:02.439
<v Speaker 1>the description of what you think a good idea for

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<v Speaker 1>trade is. Even if it's crazy, we'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, we got a lot of offseason to talk about.

0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:10.679
<v Speaker 1>We have a lot of time to flesh out these trades.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want us to talk about a trade, please

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<v Speaker 1>let us know and we'll do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we may do more of these mailbag episodes throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the winter if you guys enjoy them. Like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have questions you want to send us, and you

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<v Speaker 2>have topics you want us to dive in on, We're

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<v Speaker 2>more than happy to take your recommendations. Like TJ said,

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<v Speaker 2>you got crazy trade ideas, send them to us because

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<v Speaker 2>we're probably interested in them.

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<v Speaker 1>We will take the flack from the opposing fan base

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<v Speaker 1>for you. We'll do it well.

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<v Speaker 2>We already made our rounds with White Sox Twitter. I

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<v Speaker 2>never thought I'd get on some White Sox podcasts for

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<v Speaker 2>throwing a trade out there, But shortly after we put

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<v Speaker 2>out that TikTok there, I was sitting on pinwheels and

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<v Speaker 2>ivy with with our friends over there, which ended up

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<v Speaker 2>being a lot of fun. But hey, if we post

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<v Speaker 2>this as a show clip. Let's see how many Blue

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<v Speaker 2>Jays fans come for us. Is our good buddy Troy

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see this?

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<v Speaker 1>He might. Not only would you be pissed, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you would only be pissing off the like the south

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<v Speaker 1>side of Chicago. You would be pissing off an entire country.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that. You would never be able to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Canada again.

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<v Speaker 2>For those who don't know the name Troy for what

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about, go to our Instagram or TikTok page.

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<v Speaker 2>It was back in Whenever the Blue Jay Series was

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<v Speaker 2>in July and we interviewed some Blue Jays fans about

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<v Speaker 2>invading the ballpark. He's the first guy in the video

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<v Speaker 2>who just loses his mind. It was the best fan

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 2>interview we had all year. So that's who Troy is

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<v Speaker 2>if you want the reference. Okay, Question number two this

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:30.880
<v Speaker 2>is from Alex A little bit more of a tame one,

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<v Speaker 2>but still a very good question. He said, who will

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<v Speaker 2>be the starting second baseman for the Mariners on opening Day?

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Rojas?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'll be Josh Rojas. And I'm sure that there's

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<v Speaker 2>some fans out there that want to see the Mariners

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<v Speaker 2>go make a splash at second base and go either

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<v Speaker 2>sign for somebody or trade for somebody big. One, second

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 2>base isn't that loaded of a position. And two we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about it, especially during the Mariners run in August

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<v Speaker 2>when they were just ripping off wins. Josh rohas out

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<v Speaker 2>of that spot. When he's playing at his best, he's

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<v Speaker 2>really good. If they Let's put it like this, Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Rojas being the nine hitter should in no way, shape

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<v Speaker 2>or form kill the Mariners season next year. It should

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<v Speaker 2>only help if they don't go get significant bats in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the lineup. It's not on Josh Rojas

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<v Speaker 2>to put up a one thirty five WRC plus, but

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<v Speaker 2>if they go get the right bats in the heart

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<v Speaker 2>of the order to really provide some power and thump

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<v Speaker 2>in the lineup, Josh Rojas, when he's at his best

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<v Speaker 2>out of the ninth spot's a really good hitter. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more than happy with Josh Rojass playing second base

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<v Speaker 2>out of the ninth spot.

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<v Speaker 1>And we could sit here and dream about Marcus Simeon. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>just look off into the distance and think about what

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<v Speaker 1>could have been, because there's only only Al Tuovey and

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<v Speaker 1>Simeon and then the Grand Canyon, and then pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>every other second basement in Major League Baseball. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be Josh Rojas. And Josh Rojas hits as a

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<v Speaker 1>one to ten w RC plus and plays good defense

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<v Speaker 1>at second base. That's usually an above average season for

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<v Speaker 1>a second baseman. You cannot compare him to Marcus Simmy,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't do it. You can't compare him to

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<v Speaker 1>Jose Altuve. That's not fair on him. The second base

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:16.920
<v Speaker 1>position just usually isn't quite that talented. Once they get

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<v Speaker 1>into the meat of this season, I would bet some

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<v Speaker 1>money that this would turn into a platoon with Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Bliss and Josh Rojas, and people would come on and

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<v Speaker 1>complain again that the Mariners are rolling out another platoon,

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<v Speaker 1>and well, I've gotten kind of tired of platoons. That's

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<v Speaker 1>probably what's gonna happen, because the Mariners not only identified

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Rojas as the guy they wanted from the Diamondbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also identified Ryan Bliss as well, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think they want both those guys playing second base at

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<v Speaker 1>the big league level next season.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we say about platoons. A couple weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>we are okay on platoon. We are okay with one. One.

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<v Speaker 2>If Ryan Bliss keeps hitting in the minor leagues, which

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<v Speaker 2>he's shown no reason for why he wouldn't, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he gets called up to the big leagues, great, there's

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<v Speaker 2>your platoon second base. It's Josh Rojas against righty's, it's

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Bliss against lefties. That's it. I'm okay with that

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<v Speaker 2>one platoon, no more, no others. But if it's just one,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that could be a productive position. In terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the platoon, there's not like, unless you're trading for again,

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're training for Brennan Donovan, who who are you

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<v Speaker 2>trading for to go play second base? If that's like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the case, Like I legitimately don't know, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's nobody on the free agent market that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>play second base, so it wouldn't make any sense. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I think people should appreciate what Josh Rojas did once

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<v Speaker 2>he got to Seattle a lot more than they currently

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<v Speaker 2>are doing. And I know it's the offseason. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to see every position be filled with an all stars,

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<v Speaker 2>so so do we, so does every fan base. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's not how teams are built. That's not how any

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>team's built. So If Josh Rojas hits ninth, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>puts up a one to ten WRC, plus plays solid defense,

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<v Speaker 2>and puts up two and a half wins, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>really good season and Mariners fan should be more than

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<v Speaker 2>happy with that if that's what he does. So long

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<v Speaker 2>answer to the question, I think it's Josh Rojas.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to our third question from John, mentioning that

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<v Speaker 1>the Orioles have the top ranked farm system with several

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<v Speaker 1>prospects blocked at many positions, especially in the middle infield.

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<v Speaker 1>Thoughts on a Miller trade to the Orioles for Heston Kurs,

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<v Speaker 1>Dad and Connor Norby, And I like the and thrown

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<v Speaker 1>in there if the Orioles want to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so you're all in on this idea for

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<v Speaker 2>two of them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Okay, so I will actually all I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>an asterisk there Mariners signed Blake Snell and pull off

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<v Speaker 1>that trade.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Sure, I guess the only reason I sigh a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit is I like it's just time for them

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<v Speaker 2>to get proven. That's right, If that's all that's out

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<v Speaker 2>there in terms of a trade. Sure, because Heston Curse,

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<v Speaker 2>Dad and Connor Norby are not proven. So if they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go trade Bryce Miller somewhere, i'd rather see it

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<v Speaker 2>be for somebody like Brendan Donovan, somebody that has proven

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.199
<v Speaker 2>they can hit as a big leaguer. That's just me.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I'm a little bit like, eh like.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the idea, and it would make sense, but

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 2>it is yet another club controllable couple of players with

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<v Speaker 2>some good upside, very good upside, but it's it's not

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<v Speaker 2>proven talent that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is first on my list of trades,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but in this specific scenario, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>asking me that the Orioles would do that for for

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce Miller. By the way, let's remember Bryce Miller, he's

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<v Speaker 1>proven but not proven. Do you catch my drift? Does

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<v Speaker 1>that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? But people trade a lot for young starting pitching

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<v Speaker 2>with club control.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you're right. But in a vacuum when I do

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<v Speaker 1>this trade, yes I would, if we're just presenting it

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<v Speaker 1>in a vacuum. Yes, is that number one on my list? No? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to contradict what I said a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>here because I was talking about how I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see the Mariner's trade for proven bats, which I do.

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<v Speaker 2>But if we're still talking within the realm of this trade,

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<v Speaker 2>could we upgrade it from Connor Norby to Kobe Mayo,

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<v Speaker 2>then my interest would be peaked a little bit. Or

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<v Speaker 2>is that too much?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. I'm not totally flush on the Orioles

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<v Speaker 1>farm system, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Mayo is definitely higher. Yeah, so that might be a stretch,

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<v Speaker 2>and that might be asking for too much. I just

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<v Speaker 2>I like Mayo, I guess a little bit better than

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<v Speaker 2>I do Norby just in terms of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would stay trading for Heston Kerstaed, so you

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>would want to play him, and that would really create

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting scenario in your outfield. I mean, you would

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<v Speaker 1>have two unproven outfielders already in the corners in Jared

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Kelnick or not totally unproven, but you get what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying with that, two guys who were not sold that

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<v Speaker 1>are everyday starters yet in Jared Kilnick and Dominic Kansoon,

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>and then Julio and Center. So now you add Kurshedaed

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<v Speaker 1>to that group, you have three somewhat unprovens to totally

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<v Speaker 1>unproven and Julio, which for a contending team is athletic controllable.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of upside, but a lot of risk as well.

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<v Speaker 2>If they signed show Hey and Blake Snell first and

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<v Speaker 2>then make this trade. Sure, great, But like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>like we talked about with Jung Huli, like we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about with lordus Guriel, I like the idea of this trade,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's certainly a good idea that John threw out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and it certainly might be one that gets discussed between

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<v Speaker 2>the two clubs. But it cannot be the headline move

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<v Speaker 2>of your off season. I think that's gonna be a

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>theme we put out there a lot for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the trades and free agent guys that we talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>This winner that, oh, would be a nice move. Yeah,

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>cannot be the headliner.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fourth question here, Now we're getting juicy fourth questions

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<v Speaker 2>from James. He says, what are the odds at the

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Mariner's landing Otani, Soto or Snell. Again, obviously they're not

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 2>getting all three, but the odds of each individual player

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 2>being a Seattle Mariner?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I doing percentages?

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Blake Snell, I'm gonna say fifty percent. I actually

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>believe he actually wants I believe he wants to come home,

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and I think Davis said that he heard that Blake

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Snell wants to come home. It would make sense, It

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>makes sense they Mariners would pay a picture. I don't

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>think they'd have a problem with that. They've done it

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 1>twice already in the last two years, and I don't

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>think they'd have a problem doing it again for another

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>proven guy, especially with the strategy that I'm sure Jerry

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>is very much aware of. And you supplement your you

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>supplement your starting pitching, and then you trade off of

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that supplement with your younger, more controllable options. So Blake Snell,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put it fifty percent. Show Hey Otani, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put it ten percent, and one Soto I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put at five percent.

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I think Soto's the least likely one year. You know,

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>he's hitting free agency. Who's his agent, Scott Boris. There's

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>also now reports that Soto wants to go back to

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 2>the East Coast once he hits free agency. He would

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>have to give up a ton to get him. He

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 2>feels like the least likely to me. So what would

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 2>I put one Soto at? Yeah, three to five percent. Now,

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Blake Snell before I get even get into the Otani stuff,

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 2>because I'm sure that can be a whole discussion in

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>itself to develop on what you said. When we talked

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 2>about Blake Snell a couple of weeks ago, I was

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 2>just starting to kind of kick the tires on the

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>idea and think, yeah, could this make sense? Would the

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Mariners buy into this? I've done not just a full

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>one eighty, but I've had this epiphany in the sense

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 2>of I think the merit. The Mariners absolutely have to

0:32:54.560 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>sign Blake Snell. Here's why. How often do free agents say, oh,

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 2>the Seattle Mariners, I want to play there? Never ever? Ever.

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 2>In fact, most free agents say I don't want to

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 2>go within thousand miles of that place. Now you've got

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 2>a guy who's about to be a two time Cy

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Young winner, saying, not only would I be open to

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 2>playing in Seattle, I want to play in Seattle, I

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 2>will take a hometown discount to play in Seattle. He

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 2>said that, despite being a Scott Boris guy. At least

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>that's what's being reported by Divish. He thinks Snell would

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>take a small hometown discount to go to the Mariners,

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>So you better go get that guy. Because you don't

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 2>have people knocking on your Doorberry Off and that are

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>stars and saying I want to play for you. So

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I have done a I've had a full epiphany and said,

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 2>the Mariners absolutely need to go sign Blake Snell. Go

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 2>do it. What are the percent chances I'll even go

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 2>a little higher than you. I'll say fifty five because

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 2>if the Mariners fork up the money, it's one hundred percent.

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 2>At least that's what it sounds like. If they give

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 2>him what he's asking for, it's one hundred percent. If

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 2>the Mariners don't don't fork up the money, yeah, it

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 2>gets more complicated.

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>So then you and I are gonna have a fucking problem.

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>That's what we're gonna have.

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So essentially the forty five percent of hesitancy I'm

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 2>putting out there is all in John Stanton's court. It's

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 2>are you gonna pay Blake Snell or not? If you don't,

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>there's where the hesitancy is. If you say we'll give

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Blake Snell what he's looking for, this goes from fifty

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 2>five percent to just about one hundred percent.

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now what's your show, hey? Percentage?

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 2>So we've talked about this a little bit before. I

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 2>think it's higher than what most people think. Am I

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 2>banking on it?

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:33.319
<v Speaker 1>No way?

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Am I putting it at the fifty to fifty five

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 2>percent chance we gave Blake Snell. Absolutely not. But like

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>we've said, I think most most Mariners fans sit there

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.720
<v Speaker 2>and say, there's no chance he's going to the Dodgers.

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 2>They're not getting them. Don't waste your time. It's less

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 2>than five percent, I don't think, so, I really don't.

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting it somewhere between twenty five and thirty percent,

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.720
<v Speaker 2>which is again, it's not high odds, but it's higher

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 2>than what most people think. I don't think the list

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 2>of teams he's gonna con is that long. I think

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers and the Mariners are very high up on

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 2>that list. I think the Dodgers are probably one and

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 2>the Mariners honestly might be two. So that's why I'm

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 2>saying twenty five to thirty percent. I'm much more optimistic

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 2>than most people are. I understand that, but I think

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Mariners fans like to be pessimistic a lot of the time.

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I just look across the league and say, what teams

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 2>make sense for show? Hey, well, I guess all of

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>them because every team would benefit from having them. But

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 2>what teams make sense for show Hey to go play for?

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Like what does he want? I think there's a lot

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 2>of boxes the Mariners check. I really do, so.

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Ten percent is on the pessimistic side. It's not letting

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>yourself be disappointed, which I think a lot of people

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be, even if even if show Hay has

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>made up his mind that he's actually not coming to

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the Mariners and that he doesn't want to play in

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Seattle and he doesn't think think the organization is a

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 1>good fit for him, Like we don't know that, So

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 1>people are going to be disappointed. Is the question is

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:57.359
<v Speaker 1>how you handle that disappointment? How does the Mariner? How

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.800
<v Speaker 1>do the Mariners handle that disappointment? Are they gonna be

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 1>able to pivot quickly? That's going to be the most

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 1>important point of this offseason, And which leads to the

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.839
<v Speaker 1>percentage chance of our final person on this question.

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Which would be Blake Snell, which again, like I said,

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.720
<v Speaker 2>it's I'm putting it, but at fifty to fifty five percent,

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 2>I'll say fifty five even a little bit higher than you.

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>So sorry, No, I meant the first one. Actually, then

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I want Soto. I think, oh, that's that. I'll say

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 1>that's the one you didn't didn't go into.

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I said, Soto is like three to five percent.

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I was sorry this this has been a long question

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 2>because obviously it's packed with three very very headline names.

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 2>So again, I just don't think the Soto thing's going

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>to happen. It would cost a time. He's not re

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 2>signing it just I don't think it makes a lot

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 2>of sense. As good as he is, as incredible as

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 2>he is, I should say I don't think for Seattle

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 2>it would make a lot of sense. So I think

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 2>more so they'll be invested in both show Hey and

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Blake Snell. And I'll say this, let's just get it

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 2>out there. With the off season now officially starting, I

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 2>really hope sho Hay signs early one because I cannot

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 2>take him dragging this out till Anuary. I'm gonna be

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>stressed and refreshing Twitter every five seconds every day for

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 2>weeks if he takes a long time, And because I

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.240
<v Speaker 2>think he's gonna hold up the market if he doesn't

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>sign quickly, because I think a lot of teams are

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 2>going to be trying to sign him, and I think

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>that may hold up a lot of the rest of

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 2>the free agent market. So I hope Show Hey makes

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>his decision relatively quickly. I actually think he may, and

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 2>then that can just set that can let everybody be like, Okay,

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 2>let's move on, let's pivot. What can we do next.

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he can sign as early as next Tuesday. Yeah,

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.479
<v Speaker 1>that's as early as he can sign, and it could

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>be within a couple of weeks. And I think you

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and I would would really appreciate him signing within a

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. So we have we have enough time

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to get into everything else, and we don't have to

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>do all these what if episodes throughout the course of

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.919
<v Speaker 1>the uh throughout the course of the holiday season. Let's

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.439
<v Speaker 1>get to our final question on did just melsta Well.

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say the positive of if Show

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Hey takes a long time, as it makes for some

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 2>good social media content. You know what, people love us

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.359
<v Speaker 2>talking about Show Hey Otani, And by us, I mean

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>like media people. There's show Hey stuff out there. Oh

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 2>people listen, No.

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. Absolutely, Let's get to the final question

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>in our mail bag, not mariners related from Mason because

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 1>a Diamondbacks question or the Diamondback is going to make

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>a huge splash in free agency this offseason. What do

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you think, Lyle.

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I think they have to and I think it has

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 2>to be for a starting pitcher, and it sounds like

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:26.280
<v Speaker 2>they may be inclined to. If you listen to Arizona

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Sports Radio here on Thursday.

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, Ken Kendrick went on ninety eight to seven

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>down there in Phoenix and used some very complicated words.

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Let me know if you've heard these in the business world, Lyle,

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the World Series run for the Diamondbacks created a unplanned

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>quote economic windfall unquote that puts the organization in position

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 1>to make a quote non insubstantial investment in the team. Aka,

0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>we made enough money from the World Series that we

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>might can spending money.

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Correct, he's trying to use big boy words, But I

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>would hope the Diamondbacks are going to spend some money

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 2>because they were right there this year. They were in

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 2>the Fall Classic. They were going toe to toe with

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 2>the Rangers in a bunch of those games. Again. Game

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 2>one went right down to the wire, Game five until

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 2>that ninth inning was neck and neck. They weren't that

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 2>far out of it. You know, it would make a

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 2>big difference starting pitching because they've got three and three

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 2>guys that could be really good Gallon Kelly fought. They

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 2>need more after that, and there's a lot of starters

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 2>on this market. There's play Snell, There's Aaron Nola, There's

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Sonny Gray, there's gonna be you know, yeah, I'm a

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 2>moto if they really wanted to try and go make

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 2>a splash, so there's guys out there that they could

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 2>go sign. I think they need one more true impact arm.

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 2>So if they're gonna go spend some money, I think

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 2>it would make a lot of sense for them to

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 2>spend it in that area. And I think they should

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>spend more money period this winner because twenty first and

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 2>payroll for a team that made the World Series, why

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you go spend re spend resources into your ball

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 2>club and try to get back their next year if

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 2>not win it.

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>And they have a really good sales pitch. I mean,

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>they have a young core and the Phoenix areas where

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these guys train in the off season.

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 1>How convenient would it be to live their year round.

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to move anywhere, you can live in

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 1>your same house, and you train at your same place

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.320
<v Speaker 1>throughout the season and throughout the off season. It's a

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 1>pretty easy pitch. That's the big reason why the Mariners

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 1>struggle to keep players and attract players. Not only is

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>it cold, but guys leave and go thousands of miles

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 1>away once the season is over, and they'd rather they

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure most of these guys would rather stay in

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>one place if they could. It just makes life easier.

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:39.959
<v Speaker 1>So if the Diamondbacks are willing to actually spend money

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and spend market rate on one of these pitchers, I

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think they'd have that hard of a time convincing

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 1>someone to come and play in their organization.

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Not at all, especially now that they're good, and if

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 2>this is something the players even consider too. There's a

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 2>lot of fun stuff to do in Phoenix, especially in

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>the off season, Especially if you're a golfer. You've got

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 2>plenty to do in the off season. So I think

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Phoenix is a destination location for a lot of these teams. So,

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.399
<v Speaker 2>like you said, you could have one house, live there

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 2>all year for spring training, for the off season, for

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 2>the regular season, and play for a good team. I

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 2>think it makes a lot of sense. Okay, our final

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 2>question and this should be a fun one. So this

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.720
<v Speaker 2>was not submitted to us, but it was on social

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 2>media here on Thursday and we thought, you know what,

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 2>this would be a fun question to talk about. So

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 2>this is self submitted by us, so we're gonna ask

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>it here anyway. It was a few accounts tweeted it out.

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 2>The one I saw it from was talking Baseball the

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 2>John Boy Count and they said the favorite moment from

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 2>your team in twenty twenty three was what And I'll

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 2>kick this to you TJ. But first I've got to

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 2>say I had a hard time trying to think of these.

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.839
<v Speaker 1>I have one, and I think it works perfectly with

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 1>what the Mariners are as a franchise. I think I

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed this night the most. It was Felix's number retirement

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>night where George Kirby threw nine shutout. I had a

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun that watching that baseball game. I think

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I had more fun watching that game against the Orioles

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 1>than I had all season long. And I think that

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>is the best I saw Mariner's pitcher throw all season.

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought the energy in the ballpark was unbelievable, and

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>in the end, I think that tops my list of

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 1>moments from this season. There's so many to so many

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 1>others you could have chosen. You could have chose the

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty first win in August. I mean, that was amazing,

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and Julio's ridiculous streak and kicking the shit out of

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the Astros throughout the regular season all awesome, But I

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think anything quite reaches that night that George Kirby

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>had in August.

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:38.919
<v Speaker 2>I guess the reason I had such a hard time

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 2>with these is despite an eighty eight win season and

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>being right in the thick of the playoff race, just

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't feel like there were a lot of nights where

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:50.800
<v Speaker 2>everybody was really fired up, aside from the month of August.

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 2>But it's funny, none of those wins in August really

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 2>stood out more than the others, Like there wasn't that

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 2>one win where it's like wow, like okay, here we go.

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 2>They had a great mind, But it wasn't some Game

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 2>of the Year type of contest. So then you throw

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 2>that month aside, and there was a lot of five

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 2>hundred baseball. There was buying and selling at the deadline,

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:13.879
<v Speaker 2>there was trying to play from behind, the final week

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 2>of the season, and not playing well in Texas and

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 2>then not playing well against the Astros, like it was

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 2>a it was a hard year, despite winning eighty eight games,

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of teams around the league saying I

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.400
<v Speaker 2>would have taken that year. It was a hard twenty

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 2>twenty three to be a Mariner fan. I guess the

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 2>couple I came up with was the four hundred and

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>eighty two foot blast from Jared Kelnick at Wrigley. That

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 2>one was pretty sick. The other one I thought of,

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 2>which is just so fitting, was the Dom Canzone home

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 2>run also in the Oriole series to tie it up,

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 2>where he hit it off the hit it here Cafe.

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 2>It was an absolute blast. They rebounded just a couple

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 2>pitches after Type France had a home run robbed by

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Cedric Mullins to try and tie the game. Canzone actually

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.839
<v Speaker 2>tied the game and then oh, by the way, they lost. Yeah,

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 2>So that brand felt very on brand for the Mariners season,

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 2>like they kept people engaged just long enough and then

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:06.880
<v Speaker 2>they lost.

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>And that Jared home run came in game three of

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>a three game series with the Cubs where in Game

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>one they blew how many runs seven run lead? It

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>was what they got shut out one night. They they

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>scored one run one night, and then I think blew

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:21.840
<v Speaker 1>a seven run lead the other.

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 2>No, because it was game two, they blew that big lead.

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 2>He is in Game one. You know what kell Nick

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:30.320
<v Speaker 2>did in that game? He hit a game run in

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the ninth. Then he hit it off the scoreboard and

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 2>right field Atrigley. But then I'm pretty sure they lost

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 2>the next ra innings.

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, they lost in extra innings.

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Who could have ever guessed? This was not as easy

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 2>as twenty twenty two would have been to think of

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 2>moments and even throwing the cal Raley playoff clinching homer

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 2>out the window. Last year there was a lot of

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 2>really fun moments. There was a fourteen game win streak,

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 2>there was the finale against the Braves. There was a

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.799
<v Speaker 2>bunch of games last year that were just it was

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 2>so much fun, like like mid jud and on. Last

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 2>year was such a fun ball club to watch. But

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 2>there was just a lot of stress in twenty twenty three,

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know, maybe it's clouding some of the memories,

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 2>especially earlier on in the year that might have been good.

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:14.399
<v Speaker 2>But like I saw some Marina fans saying the same

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 2>thing here on Thursday. It was I think there was

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot of hard moments this year, Like it was

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>not easy to pick out the fun ones.

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, they played five hundred baseball outside of like a

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 1>month and a half, which is.

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Probably why it wasn't so easy to find those moments.

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Like Gino hit the one walk off home run back

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 2>in May. I believe that was one, but like, yeah, it's.

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Like that was cool, but like season defining great moment,

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 1>e I don't know if I would call it that.

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 2>There just wasn't that many. The JP Grafford Grand Slam

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 2>that final weekend against Texas, like that one was cool,

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 2>but they're just yeah, like I'm just rattling some off here.

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 2>There just there wasn't a lot. I guess if I

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 2>had to pick one, it'd be Kelnix Homer. If I

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 2>had to pick one above all of them, for me,

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:58.720
<v Speaker 2>it'd be the kell Nick Homber.

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>If they would have made the player. Also, I think

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 1>JP's homer might have stuck up on the list a

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit more. But uh, they didn't.

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 2>No, they didn't.

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:12.479
<v Speaker 1>No, pretty sad, Okay, So George Kirby and then George

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.839
<v Speaker 1>Kirby's game against the Orioles, and then Jared Kelnick's home run.

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Very Uh, that'd be it.

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I guess that just about wraps up the mail bag.

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh sorry, and let me just throw one final one

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 2>in there. Maybe maybe our greatest question yet. This is

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 2>from somebody named Spencer. I don't I don't know who

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:32.840
<v Speaker 2>this is. I've never seen or heard from this person

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 2>in my entire life. He sends in a question that says,

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 2>if Otani goes elsewhere, what are the odds of a

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 2>video dropping of John Hayman having his head spin and

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:46.280
<v Speaker 2>doing the gritty? I'd say one hundred percent pretty high.

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see John John Hayman gritty. Do you

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.359
<v Speaker 2>think he could pull it off? I feel like he's

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 2>too old, he can say absolutely not.

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 2>This this man, John Hayman despises the Mariners. And for

0:46:58.080 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 2>those of you that are on Twitter, you know that

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 2>for or some of our folks that maybe aren't, Yeah,

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Johnnymen despises the Maratis.

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Seems like a pretty miserable person. I will, we'll just

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>put that out there. Doesn't seem like he has a

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of fun.

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Well maybe when East Coast teams win.

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 1>That's true. That is true. Okay, well, let's close out

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the show with speak your Mind, Speak your mind spoke.

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:31.800
<v Speaker 2>That would be unwise. What is necessary is never unwise.

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:33.439
<v Speaker 1>All right, what's on your mind?

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 2>How in the world do any teams keep trading for

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 2>James Harden? Like how this guy has been traded now

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 2>a handful of times in his career and what happens

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:48.239
<v Speaker 2>every single time? He's there for about a season, maybe

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 2>a little bit longer, decides he's fed up and then

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>demands the trade, and teams keep trading for him. And

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:55.839
<v Speaker 2>now he's a member of the Clippers with what could

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:57.839
<v Speaker 2>end up being the most toxic team in the history

0:47:57.840 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 2>of basketball. I don't know how teams do it.

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>My question is how the NBA continues to exist. Like,

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:07.319
<v Speaker 1>just looking at this roster of the Clippers, I mean,

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna set the over under of DNPS this season

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:16.720
<v Speaker 1>for that those four, like seventy the four combined.

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh at least seventy. Those guys are gonna miss so

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 2>many games for load management throughout the year. They're gonna

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 2>roll into the playoffs as the six or seven seed.

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 2>They'll get just enough wins to get into the postseason.

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 2>None of them will have like ever played together outside

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 2>of ten games throughout the season, and then they're probably

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna get bounced in the first round because there's no chemistry.

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 2>They're all selfish and it's gonna be toxic, and we're gonna.

0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Hear a story coming out by the end of the

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 1>season that like Russ and Harden are clashing heads or

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>kauh I can't stand James Harden's beard, or something like that.

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 1>It's that is how this is gonna end up. And

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the Clippers are gonna do all of this to finish

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:58.319
<v Speaker 1>probably what six in the West and losing the first round,

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 1>like like like, this isn't even how basketball teams are

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:02.800
<v Speaker 1>built anymore.

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Like the teams like this don't win.

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>They don't.

0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 2>It's been proven year after year after year.

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 1>This is not how it works.

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure Russ and James Harden already don't like

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 2>each other. Didn't they have problems when they played on

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:18.240
<v Speaker 2>the Rockets together?

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I think so. But it is funny because the first

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 1>person adapt James Harden up once he got into the

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Clipper locker room was Russ.

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 2>This league is all we can say. What what a

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 2>league it is. I'm sure there's gonna be story after

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 2>story coming out from this team throughout the year, and

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 2>we're just gonna sit back and watch, because what is

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 2>the NBA. It's a soap opera. As we like to say,

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:46.360
<v Speaker 2>one final thing before we throw it back to you.

0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I did just want to give a little shout out

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 2>to Nelson Cruz, who officially retired today here on Thursday.

0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:53.879
<v Speaker 2>I think he's somebody that, despite only being here four years,

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:56.320
<v Speaker 2>is absolutely loved here in Seattle and will be for

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.360
<v Speaker 2>a long time. So I just wanted to give a

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 2>hat tip to him. He is a haul, a very

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 2>good player. He won't be a Hall of Famer, but

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 2>he really did have quite the career, and he had

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:06.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of his best years here in Seattle.

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Got his career started a little bit too late, was

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>scuffling a little bit too long before he really turned

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.719
<v Speaker 1>it on. If he started, if he started playing the

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 1>way he did in his thirties a little bit earlier

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:18.399
<v Speaker 1>in his career, I think he would be a Hall

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:22.239
<v Speaker 1>of Famer. But unfortunately for Nelson, he won't. All time

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 1>mariner though, despite only playing four seasons, really really just

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:27.400
<v Speaker 1>a good player. What's up?

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, I hate to now put negative light on him,

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.600
<v Speaker 2>but he also did juice, so even if he had

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:35.320
<v Speaker 2>started getting hot at all in his career, he probably

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have gotten in.

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:39.800
<v Speaker 1>But he is a very good player, yeah, perenarially, no

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>matter when he started. Now then a Hall a very

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 1>good player. Okay, my speak your mind. I can't keep

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:49.480
<v Speaker 1>up with all this Connor Stallion's Michigan stuff. It just

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 1>keeps getting funnier and funnier by the day of these

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 1>cheating allegations. There was a video that came out today

0:50:56.560 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday, which you can It was a video of

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 1>the Michigan Ohio State game in twenty twenty two. By

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the way, before I continue, the background is Connor Stallions

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 1>is a Michigan staffer on the Michigan football team that

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 1>has allegedly been stealing signs from opposition. He's been going

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:18.600
<v Speaker 1>out ahead and recording all of their signs and delivering

0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 1>it back to Michigan for them to steal play calls

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 1>when they play them. And coincidentally, the three seasons when

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Connor Stallions has stolen steins for Jim Harbaugh have been

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the three best seasons by far Jim Harbough has had

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.759
<v Speaker 1>at Michigan. Huh shocker. So there's a video that came

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:36.720
<v Speaker 1>out today where you can clearly see Connor Stallions standing

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:41.000
<v Speaker 1>behind the defensive coordinator for Ohio State yelling run right,

0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>run right, run right, and what do you know, Ohio

0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:47.840
<v Speaker 1>State run lines up and runs to the right. And

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:51.359
<v Speaker 1>there's just like so much incriminating evidence by the day

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and shocker in college football. The NCAA sits back and

0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:59.320
<v Speaker 1>is like, ugh, I don't know what to do. We

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:02.200
<v Speaker 1>don't actually have any power here. And there was a

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:05.399
<v Speaker 1>call today with all I think other thirteen Big Ten

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 1>head coaches who are like, there needs to be some

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>fucking punishment. And the Big Ten is a first year

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:13.239
<v Speaker 1>commissioner too, Like it's just so crazy. I just said

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot right there, So I'm gonna let you respond

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:15.439
<v Speaker 1>to something.

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 2>This is such a college football story too. It just

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:21.879
<v Speaker 2>keeps dragging on and on and on, and you would

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.359
<v Speaker 2>think it's the biggest story in the world right now

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:27.160
<v Speaker 2>for how much it's being talked about. When you really

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 2>get down to the bare bones of it, it is

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 2>somebody taking some signs from the sideline. Yes there should

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 2>be punishment, of course, like Michigan is not playing by

0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 2>the rules, but they're really making this out to be

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:47.759
<v Speaker 2>quite the story when there's been many, many bigger scandals

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:50.399
<v Speaker 2>in college football that have arisen than this. But they're

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 2>really dragging this one out. I almost think the NCAA

0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:54.080
<v Speaker 2>likes the attention of it.

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I just think they're incompetent. That's what they are.

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 1>This is, you know, But this is a result of

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:04.319
<v Speaker 1>This is a result of a sport that is run

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 1>by individual entities and not one governing party. Shocker, I

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 1>know that's what this is a result of. If this

0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 1>happened in the NFL, Jim Harbor would have already been

0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:16.959
<v Speaker 1>suspended for a year. He'd be done. You'd be sitting

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:19.800
<v Speaker 1>on the sidelines speaking of the NFL.

0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Is Jim Harbought actually gonna scapegoat his way out of

0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Michigan and go to the NFL because there's been reports

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 2>that seem to think the NFL is not going to

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 2>serve as some landing bed or safe haven for him

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:34.320
<v Speaker 2>if he gets in trouble for this. Now, all it

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 2>takes is one team to jump in and say, who cares,

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 2>we'll sign him anyway. But I don't know if it's

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a slam dunk for Jim Harbor to go

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:43.360
<v Speaker 2>to the NFL.

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 1>All I'll say is Mark Davis hasn't shied away from

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:49.359
<v Speaker 1>making splashes at head coach, that's for sure.

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:52.480
<v Speaker 2>The Raiders would be such a perfect fit. What a

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:56.279
<v Speaker 2>disaster they already are already, which that would just add

0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 2>fuel to the fire with jim harbaught what is shocker.

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:00.800
<v Speaker 2>By the way, we've never really given this take on

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:04.279
<v Speaker 2>the podcast because we've been circling the wagons with this take,

0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I guess well before we started, But TJ and I

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:08.840
<v Speaker 2>have been on the train forever of Jimmy Garoppolo's atrocious

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:10.719
<v Speaker 2>even when he was in San Francisco, that he was

0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:12.759
<v Speaker 2>aided by the best play caller in the league and

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:15.440
<v Speaker 2>just an abundance of weapons at every position with the

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 2>forty nine ers. Well look at him when he goes

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:19.560
<v Speaker 2>to a team where he actually has to do way

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 2>more and he actually gets benched for.

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:26.719
<v Speaker 1>A no Conner. One last thing on this Connor Stallions thing,

0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 1>like the fact that there's so much denial out there,

0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and we've mentioned there's been no punishment yet, but the

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>fact is that there were some photos going around earlier

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:42.720
<v Speaker 1>last week that Stallions was on the sideline of Central Michigan,

0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a different university. He was on the sidelines when they

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:49.840
<v Speaker 1>were playing Michigan State to open this season, and there's

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a video of him, like, there's a player that ran

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:54.480
<v Speaker 1>out of bounds on the sideline right in front of him,

0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and he did this, he put his hat down and

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:59.319
<v Speaker 1>looked down away from the television cameras and walked away

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 1>from the play. And there's another one where the TV

0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 1>camera catches his sunglasses by the way, playing a night game.

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:08.480
<v Speaker 1>A night game, he's wearing sunglasses and you can see

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:12.400
<v Speaker 1>a little recorder in the corner of his sunglasses blink

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:15.480
<v Speaker 1>on and records something. It's like, oh. And then the

0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:19.280
<v Speaker 1>fact that they asked Jim mcawayan, the Central Michigan head coach,

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:22.880
<v Speaker 1>last week, they asked him about He's like, oh, we

0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:26.239
<v Speaker 1>were aware of these allegations. We're looking into it. And

0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what that tells me, Lyle, That was absolutely

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Connor Stallion, because if it wasn't Jim mccawayan would be like, oh, yeah,

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 1>that was Jimmy Smith. Yeah, we know who that is. Here,

0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 1>here's Jimmy Smith. This is what Jimmy Smith looks like. No,

0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that was Connor Stallion's and those definitely looked like recorder

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 1>ray band sunglasses, by the way, which I think you

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:51.799
<v Speaker 1>can buy online for like three hundred bucks. That it's

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:55.680
<v Speaker 1>not looking good for mister Jim Harbaugh in his attempt

0:55:55.719 --> 0:56:00.279
<v Speaker 1>to return Michigan to glory. In that sense, he his

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:03.400
<v Speaker 1>best seasons have all resulted of cheating, and he's still

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 1>in classic Jim Harbough fashion managed to lose the biggest

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:11.200
<v Speaker 1>games no matter what. He always manages to do it.

0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Every stop he goes to, he gets to the playoff,

0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:16.319
<v Speaker 1>he gets a chance to play for a national championship,

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:18.759
<v Speaker 1>he gets smoked by a Big twelve team.

0:56:20.680 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Who's he gonna lose to this year?

0:56:24.200 --> 0:56:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Is he gonna get to lose to anybody? Here's my

0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:28.240
<v Speaker 1>thing with this, what if the Big Ten just doesn't

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 1>let Michigan play in the title game? That would be

0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy because this is the last year that

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Big Ten the Big Ten has divisions. Ohio State is

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a bigger TV draw than Michigan is, So even if

0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State loses to Michigan and goes eleven to one,

0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:47.879
<v Speaker 1>the Big Ten would not suffer a TV ratings dip

0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:50.480
<v Speaker 1>If they put Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship

0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 1>game to face whatever crummy Big Ten West opponent they face.

0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:56.560
<v Speaker 1>By the way, thank god divisions are gone, what to

0:56:56.880 --> 0:56:59.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about? The biggest joke of a division in college

0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 1>football would be that one. Anyways, they would not suffer

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a rating stip if they put Ohio State in the

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Big Ten Championship and therefore let them also into the

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:14.400
<v Speaker 1>College Football Playoff over a suspended Michigan team without presumably

0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:15.359
<v Speaker 1>without their head coach.

0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Ohio State's also not very good. I think

0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 2>that might hurt the Big Ten? Are we sure Ohio

0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:24.120
<v Speaker 2>State would get into that Big Ten title game and win?

0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Ohio State's very good. I think as

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:29.560
<v Speaker 2>bad as it's looked off the field for Michigan over

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 2>the last few weeks, they're a better team than Ohio State.

0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Who in the Big Ten West is beating Ohio State?

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but Ohio States just looks way more

0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:40.240
<v Speaker 2>vulnerable than they've been in past years.

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Are you telling me Iowa is going to beat Ohio

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:43.760
<v Speaker 1>State because they're not mean?

0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, no, Like Iowa's a whole different story in itself.

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:51.560
<v Speaker 2>What a disgrace of an offense every single year. But anyway,

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the ratings would be fine.

0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 1>But and that's really what it boils down to, right,

0:57:57.680 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 1>because that's what college football has become. It's a television product.

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:05.280
<v Speaker 1>That's why all this shit is happening. So if they

0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 1>realized that the ratings wouldn't actually suffer, they can levy

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 1>a real punishment against Michigan. Of course, if we want

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 1>to tie this back to the Raiders, the head coach

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 1>that oversaw all these things that would bring the punishment

0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 1>upon them wouldn't be there to see any of it through.

0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 1>He'd just go.

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Although we know a little bit about that. The head

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:28.600
<v Speaker 2>coach of our football team kind of jumped ship before

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 2>things got bad at his college school.

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Herm Edwards is now pulling two paychecks, one

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:37.520
<v Speaker 1>from ASU and another from ESPN while not having to

0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 1>deal with any of the any of the consequences of

0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the disaster cause at ASU. And by the way, Antonio Pierce,

0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote ring leader of all those alleged allegations

0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and now subsequent punishment, Actually, I don't even think they've

0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 1>been punished by the NCAA yet if we're talking about incompetence,

0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:59.880
<v Speaker 1>still haven't been punished. But Antonio Pierce jump ship, goes

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 1>to the Raiders and now he's an NFL head coach,

0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:05.320
<v Speaker 1>while Kenny Dillingham is working his ass off in Tempe

0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:09.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to get around the just devoid roster that that

0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>he was left and probably the scholarship reduction he's gonna

0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:14.480
<v Speaker 1>have to face in the future from the NCAA.

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's not what I was talking about, but sure,

0:59:17.480 --> 0:59:19.560
<v Speaker 2>that's that's another that's another thing we can okay, just

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.480
<v Speaker 2>to tie that in. Then I was I was referencing

0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Pete Carroll.

0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well that works too.

0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I was like, we've seen this happen. A coach that

0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:32.000
<v Speaker 2>was under hot water at his collegiate university and then

0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 2>jump ship to the NFL before he had to take

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:35.120
<v Speaker 2>any punishment for it.

0:59:36.040 --> 0:59:38.440
<v Speaker 1>This doesn't tell you the NCAA is the biggest scam

0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:40.400
<v Speaker 1>in the world. I don't know what is it like,

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:43.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just so easy to just dodge around it. It's

0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:43.800
<v Speaker 1>so easy.

0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:48.520
<v Speaker 2>What a time? What a time? And I'm sure this

0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:52.480
<v Speaker 2>thing's gonna get only funnier and more in depth in

0:59:52.520 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 2>the next few weeks. So I guess we'll get to

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:57.160
<v Speaker 2>see how it all plays out, won't we I think

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<v Speaker 2>so all right, I think that us about wraps it

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