Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number oneh eight of the Marine Layer Podcast.
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Speaker 1: Let's get it rolling, and we welcome you to this
Speaker 1: episode of the Marine Layer Podcast, part of the Just
Speaker 1: Baseball podcast network, Recording here on Sunday, March. When you're
Speaker 1: listening to this, Lyle and I will be at spring training,
Speaker 1: but for the time being here on Sunday. Before we leave,
Speaker 1: we have a lot of really good questions to get
Speaker 1: to here on this edition of the podcast. I do
Speaker 1: really like the batchup questions we have here today. I
Speaker 1: think for the mail bags, this is the most diverse
Speaker 1: mail bag episode we've had.
Speaker 2: We got some really good questions like if you're looking
Speaker 2: forward to, like you said, diversity, and not just some
Speaker 2: really good baseball questions, but creative questions and some non
Speaker 2: baseball questions as well. You're in for a good one
Speaker 2: this episode. But Dog, I do have to say before
Speaker 2: we start, happy birthday at it today on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Thanks Dog. Yeah, not my birthday on Wednesday, but on Sunday. Yes,
Speaker 1: So the Mariners will be getting the newest version of
Speaker 1: TJD twenty six version of TJ I don't even know
Speaker 1: what to expect, to be honest, like what they're gonna get,
Speaker 1: but well, I guess we'll have to see. Hey, twenty
Speaker 1: six is the new twenty one, no judging how my
Speaker 1: twenty one was?
Speaker 2: Okay, probably not all right? Well, fair enough.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you looking out for me though.
Speaker 2: Yes, I will say, speaking of birthdays, when we get
Speaker 2: down to spring training, one of the questions I'm itching
Speaker 2: to ask this one probably won't even like be on
Speaker 2: social media or anything like that. But when we were
Speaker 2: done recording with Dom with Dom Canzone, we were talking about, Oh,
Speaker 2: him and I have the exact same birthday. We're both
Speaker 2: August sixteenth, nineteen ninety seven, and I asked Dom, I said,
Speaker 2: what time were you born at? And he said, honestly,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gonna have to ask my parents
Speaker 2: and get back to you. So when we get down
Speaker 2: to spring training, I'm gonna ask him and see if
Speaker 2: you ever followed up on that, because I'm genuinely curious.
Speaker 2: I was born like a little bit before five am.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing he wasn't born that early. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: kind of itching to find out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be uh, that'd be pretty wild. Let's
Speaker 1: get into these mail bag questions up first. This is
Speaker 1: a question we got on Twitter from at a understore
Speaker 1: Underscore Stuart fifty one. The question is, Lyle, would you
Speaker 1: rather relive a season through the low light tapes of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two Jesse Winker or twenty twenty three Colton
Speaker 1: Long All recorded outs from the season are on tape.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple different ways you could go about this.
Speaker 2: You could think of it as do you put one
Speaker 2: of these guys on the twenty twenty four roster, or
Speaker 2: do you think of it as you're going to go
Speaker 2: back and watch their seasons in the years they were
Speaker 2: with the Mariners. I looked at it the latter way,
Speaker 2: in the sense of Winker in twenty two long and
Speaker 2: twenty three. If it's between those two, I would pick
Speaker 2: Jesse Winker because, look, he played some of the worst
Speaker 2: defense I think we've ever seen in the outfield at
Speaker 2: T Mobile Parker. That being said, he wasn't good at
Speaker 2: the plate, but technically he was above average. I know
Speaker 2: they traded for him to be a real impact bat
Speaker 2: and he was not that. But he led the American
Speaker 2: League in walks as WRC plus was over one hundred.
Speaker 2: I know Jesse Winkers stand by any means, but between
Speaker 2: the two, I think I'd pick Winker because definition he
Speaker 2: was slightly above average.
Speaker 1: But who is the more useful player on a baseball team?
Speaker 1: I was trying to think so when my answer to
Speaker 1: this question is, if I were to pick one of
Speaker 1: these two and actually have to physically rewatch their entire
Speaker 1: season again on this twenty twenty four roster, it would
Speaker 1: be Colton Wong. As much as that pains me, you'd
Speaker 1: probably it would probably be Culton. Look, I don't think
Speaker 1: I could I could make myself sit down and watch
Speaker 1: another season of Jesse Winker in the outfield can't do it.
Speaker 1: I physically cannot watch that man try and field another
Speaker 1: ground ball. So it would it would, unfortunately, have to
Speaker 1: be Culton Wong. Now if I were to sit down
Speaker 1: and just watch the video, it'd be Jesse Winker because
Speaker 1: I'd be laughing my ass off of watching him try
Speaker 1: to field.
Speaker 2: Okay, but Winker was on a team that got to
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I'm not saying he was the driving force,
Speaker 2: but he was on a playoff team. We know how
Speaker 2: frustrating twenty twenty three was for everybody last year. So
Speaker 2: when you look at the teams, you'd have to watch.
Speaker 2: I know, the players on each teams weren't that different,
Speaker 2: Like the core was still the same. But I feel
Speaker 2: like that and the advanced numbers of plate I feel
Speaker 2: like i'd still take Winker. I don't know, like like
Speaker 2: as we've talked about, like Colton Wang. I mean, his
Speaker 2: defense was no Gold Glove level either last year. I
Speaker 2: think you're leaving that out.
Speaker 1: No, I mean no.
Speaker 2: Remember remember all the times he had to try to
Speaker 2: relay the ball in on a cutoff play from from
Speaker 2: shortened the outfield, and he'd like three hop it to
Speaker 2: the plate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we could take personality into account here too.
Speaker 1: I know Jesse Winker wasn't was the most well liked
Speaker 1: guy too, so that that probably doesn't help with the
Speaker 1: clubhouse chemistry. Not like and all these all these leaders
Speaker 1: on this team, JP, cow et cetera. Like they do
Speaker 1: you think they look at Jesse Winker and like the
Speaker 1: ultimate form of respect? Hmmm?
Speaker 2: No, oh, okay, if we're gonna go personality one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: Colton Wong, what resonates with me is not just how
Speaker 2: well he was and how respected he was. Remember when
Speaker 2: we had Tye peed on and he said Colton Wong
Speaker 2: sat down with him for a half hour and just
Speaker 2: talked baseball life, like acclimating yourself into the big leagues,
Speaker 2: how to handle yourself one day as a big leaguer.
Speaker 2: Of we're going to talk about the human being, the
Speaker 2: personality Colton Wong, like by light years. I wish we'd
Speaker 2: gotten to know Colton Wong better in the time he
Speaker 2: was here last year, just as the person. I know
Speaker 2: he didn't have a good year, but he seems like
Speaker 2: just an ultimate ultimate good guy. So by that's by
Speaker 2: that retrospect for sure.
Speaker 1: M hm. So yeah, I think if I just had
Speaker 1: to sit down and watch, it'd be Winker, It'd be Winker.
Speaker 1: I mean, what a unique season. He essentially turned into
Speaker 1: rawl of Banya's with more walks and less power. That
Speaker 1: like that, that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2: Remember his I will say if you wanted, if you
Speaker 2: wanted quotes to hang on to, though, it's Winker. Remember
Speaker 2: his interview after the doubleheader against the Nationals where he
Speaker 2: said He's gonna use Dylan Moore's Manscape code between games
Speaker 2: or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: And my other favorite Jesse Winker moment, Like my friend
Speaker 1: Caleb at the time worked at like a sports card
Speaker 1: shop and he just randomly after a day game was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Jesse Winker came in today. He was like, oh, super
Speaker 1: nice guy. It's like, well, yeah, it sounds like Jesse
Speaker 1: Winker was as dedicated to his card collection as he
Speaker 1: was to his baseball physique. So that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a kind of random moment. Never
Speaker 1: heard about Coltonwong going into a sports card shop.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's not a collector, not like not like our
Speaker 2: guy justin Topa or in this case, like Jesse Winker.
Speaker 2: Second question we got in the mailbag This one's on Twitter.
Speaker 2: It's from Starcadian. He says, this is a unique one.
Speaker 2: If a sorcerer emerged out of leftfield then offered you
Speaker 2: a barter which would grant you a super team composed
Speaker 2: of the best Mariners of all time in their prime
Speaker 2: for one season, but if that team failed to win
Speaker 2: a World Series, you would doom the team and franchise
Speaker 2: to another twenty year playoff draft. Would you do it?
Speaker 1: Yes? Absolutely? Are you kidding me? They already missed it
Speaker 1: without a curse for twenty years at least if they
Speaker 1: missed it for twenty years in a row this time,
Speaker 1: you know there's nothing you can do about it. And
Speaker 1: you know the other way I thought about this is
Speaker 1: he essentially, just like rehashed what two thousand and one was.
Speaker 1: The baseball gods came together to create the perfect baseball
Speaker 1: team for the Seattle Mariners, the perfect baseball team. And
Speaker 1: you know what the baseball god said after the two
Speaker 1: thousand and one season, Well, now your debt will be
Speaker 1: paid in a twenty year playoff drought. And that's what happened.
Speaker 2: But how can you possibly say you're okay with living
Speaker 2: through another drought even if you have all these guys
Speaker 2: on one field because we're.
Speaker 1: Used to it already. That's why no, I because when
Speaker 1: they have tried to make the playoffs for forty seven
Speaker 1: years as a franchise.
Speaker 2: It doesn't work.
Speaker 1: So at least when there's an external power keeping you out,
Speaker 1: you can just kind of shrug your shoulders and know
Speaker 1: that at least for one season, it might be the
Speaker 1: greatest season you'll ever watch, and you'll cherish those memories forever.
Speaker 2: Let me make this as abundantly clear as I can
Speaker 2: possibly speak. I cannot and will not live through another
Speaker 2: twenty year playoff drought. Do you know how long twenty
Speaker 2: years is? As I like to put it, our first
Speaker 2: day of kindergarten until the day we graduated from ASU,
Speaker 2: we said, zero postseason games for the Mariners, not just
Speaker 2: that time span. It ranged longer than that our wavelength
Speaker 2: at thinking on, this is totally polar opposite. Here's why
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not taking that risk. The Dodgers exist,
Speaker 2: The Braves exist. Those guys have super teams every year,
Speaker 2: and they don't win the World Series. The Dodgers have
Speaker 2: won one. Okay, the Dodgers won once in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: The Braves won in twenty one. For the last couple
Speaker 2: of years, those two teams have had loaded rosters and
Speaker 2: lost in the first round. I'm not putting that to chance,
Speaker 2: even with prime Junior and Prime Edgar and prime a
Speaker 2: Rod and prime Randy Johnson. I'm sorry, I'm not because
Speaker 2: there's teams like the mid eighties when Diamondbacks that still
Speaker 2: get there. I'm not taking that one year risk on
Speaker 2: the chance to win the World Series. If you know,
Speaker 2: then you get a twenty year drought following. No, I'm
Speaker 2: taking the chances that they have now where you can
Speaker 2: just keep this core together and compete for a playoffs
Speaker 2: about every year, and if you get in, you're starting pitching,
Speaker 2: you ride with it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm not taking that risk. I cannot live through another
Speaker 2: twenty years. Dude.
Speaker 1: Well, it's either the option where you're guaranteed a great team,
Speaker 1: or we can live in the current reality where the
Speaker 1: thought of a great team just doesn't even enter the
Speaker 1: minds of the people in control of that give you
Speaker 1: got it that way.
Speaker 2: But they could be a good team that gets into
Speaker 2: the playoffs, whether it's an a as, an AOS winner
Speaker 2: or wildcard, and they ride their starting pitching and see
Speaker 2: where it takes them. I like, I'm taking that chance
Speaker 2: with the idea, without the guarantee over your head that
Speaker 2: oh you are you are going to miss the playoffs
Speaker 2: for twenty straight years. I'd rather have the chance and
Speaker 2: the hope to hang on rather than knowing, well, you're
Speaker 2: gonna miss for another twenty years. No, I can't. I
Speaker 2: cannot deal with that. Man can do it.
Speaker 1: Like it just the just could. But could you imagine
Speaker 1: the opportunity to live through that two thousand and one season.
Speaker 1: Could you think about that? Think of how amazing that
Speaker 1: summer would be. Could you think about that one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixteen wins? This team could win more games than that.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that not be the most fun you've ever had?
Speaker 2: Okay? But just to get bounced in five games in
Speaker 2: the ALCS again, the Dodgers won one ten in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, I think it was one ten. Then they
Speaker 2: lost in the first round of the Padres. You know
Speaker 2: how disappointed and miserable you'd be at the crashing end
Speaker 2: of that season, Like, I can't do that. It would
Speaker 2: be really fun. Like I know what Jared Carabas said
Speaker 2: the other day of Oh, it's almost more fun to
Speaker 2: be a good regular season team than postseason team when
Speaker 2: we had him on two weeks ago now, but I can't.
Speaker 2: But what Carabas is saying is like year over year,
Speaker 2: you're a good regular season team. The problem is the
Speaker 2: Mariners would be good one regular season, potentially get bounced
Speaker 2: in the Alds or alcs and then missed for another
Speaker 2: twenty years. I'm not putting that to chance. They can't do.
Speaker 1: It just the th can we just like think of
Speaker 1: like what the like we built on our social platforms,
Speaker 1: what the all time starting nine would because like just
Speaker 1: thinking like hey, Rod at short, Edgar at d H,
Speaker 1: John Olrud at first, prime, Brett Boone at second. You
Speaker 1: have Robinson Cano coming off the bench, Nelly off the bench, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nelly off the bench. In the outfield, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: Junior j Rod, Jay Rod probably now each year Jay Buhner,
Speaker 1: like those would be your four outfielders. Come on, you're
Speaker 1: telling me you don't want that.
Speaker 2: You tell me, are you guaranteeing that they win a
Speaker 2: World Series with that team? Again? Let me say again,
Speaker 2: oh one Mariners, twenty twenty two, Dodgers and the Braves
Speaker 2: of the last two years.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask which team is gonna beat Prime Randy Johnson,
Speaker 1: Prime Felix, and then I don't know, let's who else
Speaker 1: is in that playoff? Garcia, I mean Castillo, Kirby, Yeah, Eddie,
Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz Andres Munos, Matt Brash and the bullpen Sasaki, Sasaki,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Twenty fourteen. Tom Wilhelmsen would be like
Speaker 1: the worst member of that bullpen.
Speaker 2: Dude, I can't put it. I cannot put it.
Speaker 1: To I know you're dreaming. I know you're thinking about it.
Speaker 2: You're thinking about it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm thinking about a pretty good team. To me,
Speaker 1: I don't know where. I don't know who's beating that
Speaker 1: team to problem, that seems better than the oh one
Speaker 1: Mariners is that's for sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course it is, because it is Prime Junior
Speaker 2: and Prime A Rod and a bunch of other guys
Speaker 2: in Julio. But I like again, guys have off days,
Speaker 2: and if it's collective, they're gonna lose. And then if
Speaker 2: they lose, they missed the playoffs for twenty years.
Speaker 1: M you know, I think a Rod and his spray
Speaker 1: tan powers will get it done.
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have to agree. Yeah, Unfortunately, I
Speaker 2: think we are going to have to lightheartedly agree to
Speaker 2: disagree on this because there is there is like no
Speaker 2: scenario on earth that I would endure another twenty year
Speaker 2: playoff drought for I cannot go through that ever again,
Speaker 2: like bottom line. So I think that's where we stand. Okay,
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Speaker 2: Our third question comes on Twitter from James Roberts. He says,
Speaker 2: this feels like an obvious one to ask, but I'll
Speaker 2: ask anyways, how good does Cole Young have to perform
Speaker 2: to make the team out of camp? Because he's looked
Speaker 2: really good and surely is better for second and third
Speaker 2: base duties than other in house options. I will say
Speaker 2: I understand what his thinking is long term. I don't
Speaker 2: think at the current moment, with Cole Jong having played
Speaker 2: less than fifty games above Lowe, he is currently suited
Speaker 2: better than the third base options.
Speaker 1: Uh. Look, could I sit the bar at two thousand
Speaker 1: and four Barry Bonds? If he did that, maybe they
Speaker 1: would consider. I was thinking along the lines of like,
Speaker 1: how this could work. Do you remember Juan Soto's call up?
Speaker 1: You remember how small the sample size for him was
Speaker 1: above Lowe? I think he played twenty five games above Lowe.
Speaker 1: Something like that. I mean Juan Soto, I think it
Speaker 1: was less.
Speaker 2: I thought he played like ten or fifteen games.
Speaker 1: It was not very many games, and he went up
Speaker 1: to the big leagues and he was great right away.
Speaker 1: There was no issue for Juan Soto right away. He
Speaker 1: came up as a nineteen year old, had a nine
Speaker 1: hundred ohps as a rookie. It is, in theory with
Speaker 1: the Juan Soto comparison possible, but I'm thinking, like in
Speaker 1: terms of spring training performance. I mean, even if he
Speaker 1: hit five hundred and led the Cactus League in bombs
Speaker 1: like probably still not right like probably like he would
Speaker 1: they would start him in Double A like instant off
Speaker 1: the bat, and they'd feel very comfortable about it. But
Speaker 1: you know, Cole Young hasn't like looking at what Soto
Speaker 1: did and the kind of numbers he put up, like
Speaker 1: he slowed nearly six hundred in Double A, he slogged
Speaker 1: over seven hundred in a plus ball like, Cole Young
Speaker 1: hasn't done that. So unfortunately, even though he's done very
Speaker 1: well in the minor leagues, he hasn't done well enough
Speaker 1: to say I'm going to force your guys's hand to
Speaker 1: put me at the big league level. He could do that.
Speaker 1: This year as a twenty year old and go into
Speaker 1: Double A this year and start hitting three forty with
Speaker 1: a you know, with an on base percentage over four
Speaker 1: hundred and slug say six hundred, then the Mariners would
Speaker 1: really have a conundrum on their hands. At that point,
Speaker 1: you sit there and think, Okay, are we making our
Speaker 1: team worse by not putting him on the big league
Speaker 1: roster as it sits right now? I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you just misspoke, But I'm circling back to
Speaker 2: something a plus ball that I think you mean high
Speaker 2: a right.
Speaker 1: Like that's it means the same thing.
Speaker 2: Well, of course it means the same thing. But you
Speaker 2: may have just coined a new term there. You should
Speaker 2: you should trademark it a plus ball.
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't think I could take ownership for that.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm the only person who said a
Speaker 1: plus ball.
Speaker 2: Oh then maybe maybe I'm just living under a rock.
Speaker 2: And that's the first time I've heard that saying uh,
Speaker 2: I would say your thinking is right also, I'm sure, James,
Speaker 2: and the question is just thinking in terms of like
Speaker 2: what the needs were entering the off season. But obviously,
Speaker 2: when you think of your second and third base options.
Speaker 2: Of course, Jorge Polanco, from where we sit, is a
Speaker 2: much much better option at the moment than Cole Young.
Speaker 2: The only option would be either if Polanco slid to
Speaker 2: third and Young came up and played second, or if
Speaker 2: Young just started playing more third base and came up
Speaker 2: as a third baseman. But I think he profiles more
Speaker 2: as a second basement anyway. And all that being said,
Speaker 2: you're talking about Wuan Soto playing X amount of games
Speaker 2: above Hi A, like he played X amount of games
Speaker 2: in Double A. No, Cole Young has only played like
Speaker 2: less than fifty games in High A. Everett like he
Speaker 2: has not hit Double A yet. Lonsto got called up
Speaker 2: from Double A. So I am all aboard the Cole
Speaker 2: Young train. If you've listened to some of the recent podcasts,
Speaker 2: you've heard me say I think there's a real world
Speaker 2: Cole Young gets up by the end of the year.
Speaker 2: I'm certainly sticking by that with the way he's looked
Speaker 2: so far. But to make the camp out of spring
Speaker 2: training playing about forty eight games in High A, and
Speaker 2: that's the highest level he's played at at twenty years old,
Speaker 2: just doesn't seem likely. Now. If you want to change
Speaker 2: the actually go ahead, let me.
Speaker 1: Say I was gonna say, Julio Rodriguez is the second
Speaker 1: highest ceiling out of any prospect the Mariners have ever had,
Speaker 1: behind Ken Griffey Junior. He played an entire season in
Speaker 1: Double A before getting called up. He crushed Double A,
Speaker 1: but he played an entire season as a twenty year
Speaker 1: old in Double A. I have a hard time seeing
Speaker 1: Cole Young do it like at this moment, doing anything
Speaker 1: less than that to earn a call up.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I would agree with that. Now. I
Speaker 2: think if he keeps hitting like this, he's not going
Speaker 2: back to Everett. He's just gonna start the year in Arkansas. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but but he would have to play really well in
Speaker 2: Arkansas to get a call up even at the end
Speaker 2: of the year, which I think may happen. But you
Speaker 2: just you can skip Triple A and go from Double
Speaker 2: A to the Major Some guys do that. Julio did it.
Speaker 2: You've seen other guys do it at certain points, like
Speaker 2: Evin White did it. But I don't think you can
Speaker 2: go from High A to the big leagues at twenty
Speaker 2: years old. That's just too much of a jump. So
Speaker 2: I am very excited to see what Cole Young's done
Speaker 2: so far this spring, I'm almost positive he's not making
Speaker 2: the roster out of camp. I'll put it like that.
Speaker 1: But if Cole Young goes and crushes triple A this
Speaker 1: year and the Mariners third base situation does not get better,
Speaker 1: like let's say there's injuries or in once the dead
Speaker 1: deadline rolls around, they have to go acquire a pitcher
Speaker 1: instead of an infielder, and third base is still a
Speaker 1: black hole at that point, Or say Polonko goes over
Speaker 1: to third and second base at that point is a
Speaker 1: black hole again for what seems like the twentieth year
Speaker 1: in a row a row without Robinson Cano or Brett Boone.
Speaker 1: Then you make you make that decision of what makes
Speaker 1: your team better in August and September and we can
Speaker 1: revisit that, and then Lyle can parade around this podcasting
Speaker 1: I told you so, I told you so, I told
Speaker 1: you so. I was right. Ah wow.
Speaker 2: So I will be doing exactly that if Cole Young
Speaker 2: gets called up. I will say, though, if they're unsatisfied
Speaker 2: with what's gone on at third base by the trade
Speaker 2: deadline and Young still not up, like if cool Young
Speaker 2: gets up, for example, tail end of September, if the
Speaker 2: Mariners are making a playoff push, you see Cole Young
Speaker 2: get up similar to how some other young high prospects
Speaker 2: have gotten up that way in the past, Like remember
Speaker 2: Xander Bogart's got up really late in his rookie year
Speaker 2: and was on the playoff roster. Even junior Cameron Aro
Speaker 2: for the Rays last year is one of the top
Speaker 2: prospect and all of baseball got up really late and
Speaker 2: was on the postseason roster for Tampa last year. You
Speaker 2: might see something like that with Cole Young. I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, if it's the trade deadline, you can't trade
Speaker 2: for a bat and you need a solution, I think
Speaker 2: we might be looking at Tyler Lockley before we see
Speaker 2: Cole Young. And I mean by that I'm not banking this.
Speaker 2: I'm not banking on this happening. But if you want
Speaker 2: to speculate theories for why ty France is starting to
Speaker 2: not see third base reps but have some buzz around
Speaker 2: him playing more third base again, it's that Locklear is
Speaker 2: a first baseman and man Oman does he crush baseball.
Speaker 2: So if they think the offense is gonna need a
Speaker 2: spark in July or August, you might see Lockley out
Speaker 2: because that's a college bat who's already been in Double
Speaker 2: A is going to start back in Double A. And
Speaker 2: if he hits the way everybody thinks he's gonna hit,
Speaker 2: he may be up mid season.
Speaker 1: What kind of numbers would you need to see from
Speaker 1: Cole Young to feel comfortable with him being on the
Speaker 1: big league roster this year? Like not like not out
Speaker 1: of need, not out of force, need not out of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one on Jared Keln to call up and
Speaker 1: save the day on the big league roster, only for
Speaker 1: him to struggle all season. Like if you were to
Speaker 1: feel comfortable calling Cole Jung up from Double A because
Speaker 1: you feel like he's ready, what numbers do that? What
Speaker 1: does that look like?
Speaker 2: So AKA, the Mariners have legitimately had their hand force.
Speaker 2: They say this guy cannot be in the miners anymore.
Speaker 2: He needs to help the big league club win games.
Speaker 2: I would say one forty one fifty WRC plus has
Speaker 2: to be hitting three hundred or above.
Speaker 1: Probably it's got to be better. Like he's had good
Speaker 1: numbers in the minor leagues. He would need to, I
Speaker 1: would think, need to exceed those numbers this season in
Speaker 1: the worst hitting environment he'll play in period in Arkansas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know his it would be right now. His
Speaker 1: minor league numbers, despite the four hundred on base percentage,
Speaker 1: the OPS has been anywhere from eight hundred to eight
Speaker 1: fifty and in the minor leagues that's not a one
Speaker 1: forty one to fifty WRC plus, so especially not in
Speaker 1: Double A, it's going to be need to be a
Speaker 1: little bit higher than that for us to feel more
Speaker 1: comfortable with him coming up. It's possible. Wouldn't put wouldn't
Speaker 1: wouldn't put it past him. He's as talented as could be,
Speaker 1: But for the time being, seems unlikely. And I like
Speaker 1: your locklier thing like at third base, that seems like
Speaker 1: more of a realistic option. So we'll have to see.
Speaker 1: It's up to the Mariners to decide what they're going
Speaker 1: to do here coming down the stretch in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: if they really need somebody in that spot. Okay, next
Speaker 1: question comes from Ellie at Try and Takeover. She sent
Speaker 1: us this on Instagram. The question is, if you had
Speaker 1: to choose a career outside of sports media, what would
Speaker 1: you choose.
Speaker 2: This made my skin crawl because we've talked about this
Speaker 2: on the podcast. But I just hated school with a
Speaker 2: burning passion. I wasn't like the disruptive kid in class
Speaker 2: or anything like that. But I wasn't exactly attentive either,
Speaker 2: because I was so bored all the time. All I
Speaker 2: wanted to do was talk about sports. So here we are.
Speaker 2: If I have to pick another career, what I came
Speaker 2: up with was probably taking the route of going into
Speaker 2: baseball operations, which is, we have a couple of friends
Speaker 2: who are in that field now and really like it
Speaker 2: and really enjoy it. I think if I wasn't talking
Speaker 2: about sports, it'd probably be that, because then you're still
Speaker 2: around baseball all the time. You're around the field, you're
Speaker 2: around teams, you're you know, you're looking into numbers, you're
Speaker 2: just around baseball, and you're living and breathing baseball. I
Speaker 2: think if I wasn't in sports media, it would probably
Speaker 2: be that, but it would still have to be something
Speaker 2: in sports.
Speaker 1: You don't see any possible thing outside of sports that
Speaker 1: you could do, Like would be would you own a gym?
Speaker 1: Could you own a gym?
Speaker 2: Maybe? But like then you're getting into I guess we've
Speaker 2: honed some skills in with this podcast that I probably
Speaker 2: previously never really thought we'd have to have, like having
Speaker 2: a little bit of marketing skill and sales skills like
Speaker 2: those weren't like those are things we do with this
Speaker 2: podcast that I didn't really think i'd ever need back
Speaker 2: when we were in college. But I think it's another
Speaker 2: level when you talk about owning land property, like that's
Speaker 2: a lot work. That'd be great. But I mean I've
Speaker 2: thought about the whole like would you be a personal trainer?
Speaker 2: Thing Like, like I don't know, I feel like.
Speaker 1: You could do that diet. Do you think you could
Speaker 1: do like be a dietitian because your diet's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Maybe, but I feel like I've learned so much just
Speaker 2: from other people, Like I feel like I've learned just
Speaker 2: from kind of watching YouTube videos and seeing what other
Speaker 2: people do. I don't know about dietitian. Maybe I would
Speaker 2: say more likely like something involving because like I wouldn't
Speaker 2: say I'm some like fitness guru who goes around and
Speaker 2: like does a bunch of group classes and things like that.
Speaker 2: I kind of just do my own thing, Like maybe
Speaker 2: i'd do someone on one sessions with people, but I'd
Speaker 2: say that's much much further down the totem pole. If
Speaker 2: I don't know, baseball didn't exist or something like that.
Speaker 2: So maybe, like I guess, I could see myself in
Speaker 2: like a real other alternate verse doing that and being
Speaker 2: somewhat satisfied with it. But I would say more likely
Speaker 2: than not, it's gonna be in sports.
Speaker 1: Interesting, you know, I would say the same. I have
Speaker 1: a very different answer. I'm not sure if I've talked
Speaker 1: about this on the podcast. If I wasn't gonna go
Speaker 1: into journalism and focus on sports in college, I wanted
Speaker 1: to be in tech. I wanted to be I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a computer science major. That stuff always really
Speaker 1: interested me in high school. Funny thing is it's probably
Speaker 1: good I didn't. I don't know. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't quite know if I would have cut it. Do
Speaker 1: you want to guess what my SAT score was on
Speaker 1: the on the AP computer science class? Do you want
Speaker 1: to guess?
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was higher than my Well, I didn't
Speaker 2: take AP computer science, but I'm sure your SAT score
Speaker 2: was probably higher than mine.
Speaker 1: No, not SAT. What my the AP Computer Sciences like?
Speaker 1: One through five? You want to guess what the score was?
Speaker 2: Two?
Speaker 1: One?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I thought I did great I thought I killed it.
Speaker 1: I thought I studied my ass off. I I thought
Speaker 1: I nailed the test and I got a one. And
Speaker 1: I was sitting there on my computer just like flabbergasted
Speaker 1: at the score. I'm like, how is that possible? I
Speaker 1: got a one. I was kind of pissed off that
Speaker 1: class was about us, hard of a high school class
Speaker 1: that I had ever had that in chemistry. But I
Speaker 1: actually enjoyed the computer science. I like, I enjoy building things,
Speaker 1: especially like on the lap, like on a laptop, and
Speaker 1: tinkering around and sort of trying new things, which you
Speaker 1: know correlates into say video editing and creating content for
Speaker 1: this podcast, but in a different sense for computer science.
Speaker 1: So I was thinking that computer science would be a
Speaker 1: cool path to go down. Didn't end up happening. I'm
Speaker 1: obviously sitting here talking about sports with my journalism degree instead.
Speaker 1: But I thought that would have been cool. Now that
Speaker 1: I'm an adult, I feel like something travel related, something
Speaker 1: that would allow me to travel more than I do
Speaker 1: right now, I think would be a path. I don't
Speaker 1: exactly know what that would be. Lao floated the idea
Speaker 1: of a flight attendant in theory. A flight attendant sounds great.
Speaker 1: The problem is the customer service part. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I have the patience for that, dealing with other
Speaker 1: people that much, especially on a plane, like stuck in
Speaker 1: a metal tube with a bunch of three hundred strangers
Speaker 1: for hours on end when they're hungry and tired and
Speaker 1: antsy and I was crying babies, and who knows what
Speaker 1: will happen. Maybe the door will fly off on the
Speaker 1: plane as well, and you have to deal You have
Speaker 1: to deal with that as well. It's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't quite know if that would be it a like
Speaker 1: a pilot sounds cool. The problem is the steps to
Speaker 1: being a pilot is a huge, huge pain in the ass,
Speaker 1: and it is so expensive to become to get all
Speaker 1: those flight hours to become a pilot, especially a commercial pilot. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could, I if I would
Speaker 1: have the wherewithal to get through all of that. So
Speaker 1: that I guess that's my complicated answer. Tech then something
Speaker 1: travel related.
Speaker 2: I honestly have three answers to that, because there's a
Speaker 2: few follow ups. Number one, TJ. Everybody, as you can tell,
Speaker 2: makes really fiscally responsible decisions. He decided not to go
Speaker 2: into tech and be in sports journalism.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well so if I think about this, it's
Speaker 1: one industry that pays extremely well. But now I just
Speaker 1: laid a shit ton of people off, so you know,
Speaker 1: I would actually it's I'm still at least gainfully employed
Speaker 1: in this. If I was in tech right now, I
Speaker 1: could be unemployed. So at this very moment, though, I
Speaker 1: would have pretty goo unemployment benefits, I would say, so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That's fair. My other two one to the pilot thing,
Speaker 2: I mean, you should ask my brother about it, because
Speaker 2: I mean, my brother has his pilot's license and all
Speaker 2: that flies planes. But to your point, it took them
Speaker 2: a long time, and like you said, it's a lot hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of hours really expensive. Again, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's like the piloting specifically, but more of
Speaker 1: just like how I end up at the destination if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, like, you know, I scroll on TikTok and
Speaker 1: I see these pilots documenting like, oh, yeah, I just
Speaker 1: hopped to Australia. That was our international flight. Now I
Speaker 1: get to spend three days here. It's like, oh that
Speaker 1: sounds pretty cool. And it's all paid for and work related,
Speaker 1: and you get to see the world for your job,
Speaker 1: and I think that's pretty cool. And you can, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you still have like a home base, you
Speaker 1: still have a house and live somewhere with the family
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, but you also get the plus
Speaker 1: of going out on the road and hitting all these
Speaker 1: spots and super cool, super cool. And that was kind
Speaker 1: of one of the reasons I got into sports, because like,
Speaker 1: once you make it to the top level, you get
Speaker 1: to travel all over the place for sporting events and such.
Speaker 1: Haven't made it there yet, I haven't. I've the farthest
Speaker 1: I've gone on the road for a sporting event is
Speaker 1: down the road to Eugene. That's it. But we're working up,
Speaker 1: we're taking taking baby steps.
Speaker 2: Well, by the time this podcast is out, that'll change.
Speaker 2: You're traveling to Arizona technically true.
Speaker 1: That is true. Yeah, that is true. So you know,
Speaker 1: one step at a time. It is still a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bit early, but you know, we'll make it early.
Speaker 2: But like I said, like obviously long term, we hope
Speaker 2: to do a lot more stuff with this if it
Speaker 2: keeps you know, if it keeps building up and everything,
Speaker 2: like like we said, I think it'd be pretty cool
Speaker 2: to go to the winter meetings a lot, and yeah,
Speaker 2: keep going back to spring training and whatever else could
Speaker 2: kind of pop up.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I mean I have a better one.
Speaker 1: If they send the Mariners to say like Japan, Korea
Speaker 1: or the UK or I think France, they might play
Speaker 1: game in France or something whatever. I know, No, you're
Speaker 1: not a huge international traveler, but if you know, if
Speaker 1: we're making the moolah by then like, let's go.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest for that. I would. I would do
Speaker 2: it because it would probably be a pretty cool experience
Speaker 2: to see the Mariners in a different place.
Speaker 1: And I think I could change your mind on travel
Speaker 1: at that point once we actually go experience it and
Speaker 1: you put a smile on your face and you like, actually, TJ,
Speaker 1: I think that's a good idea. We should do this more.
Speaker 2: All right, last thing I will say, and then we'll
Speaker 2: move on to the next question. But standardized tests, to
Speaker 2: your point about taking the SAT are not only are
Speaker 2: they the worst, but they're so outdated, like so much
Speaker 2: the school system just outdated as a whole. And maybe
Speaker 2: I'm biased because I was an atrocious test taker aka
Speaker 2: like I mean, I didn't get like a one hundred
Speaker 2: on the SATs or anything ridiculous like that. I don't
Speaker 2: even think you can get a score that low. But
Speaker 2: I just wasn't, you know, getting flying colors scores on
Speaker 2: standardized tests. So and I wasn't good at taking them.
Speaker 1: So and there's all sorts of problems with standardized tests too,
Speaker 1: like for someone to have a test score that high,
Speaker 1: the amount of money, Like it all boils back to money,
Speaker 1: funny enough with everything everything in this country, but like
Speaker 1: the amount of hours and like tutoring and training you
Speaker 1: have to do to get those high SAT scores, Like
Speaker 1: not everyone can achieve that. Not everyone has the time
Speaker 1: to do that, so like it kind of sucks. And
Speaker 1: notice how like during the pandemic when they just canceled
Speaker 1: the SATs, the world didn't crumble, right, funny Or.
Speaker 2: Some people are just naturally really good test takers. But
Speaker 2: I certainly was not one of those people. And also
Speaker 2: at least for me, I can tell you I have
Speaker 2: learned so much more in my lifetime just watching YouTube
Speaker 2: videos and learning that way, like watching in a shortened
Speaker 2: form and then doing rather than sitting for weeks and
Speaker 2: weeks and weeks on end at a desk being attempted
Speaker 2: to learn something I didn't care about, and then paper
Speaker 2: plops on your desk and say take a test on it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, anyway, I could go on a rant about
Speaker 2: that forever, but change the schooling system. Okay, next question,
Speaker 2: another fun question. This one comes from I want to
Speaker 2: make sure I get the name right, because we got it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say late, but it was like
Speaker 2: we found it a little bit later on we're like, oh,
Speaker 2: we should talk about this one. This is from Orla McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: This is on Instagram. She says, best spot to watch
Speaker 2: the sunset in Seattle. What's yours?
Speaker 1: So I have a great spot for this. It is
Speaker 1: on Queen Anne. Here's my directions to get there. The
Speaker 1: park's name itself is called Marshall Park, So Marshall Park
Speaker 1: is right next to Carry Park. Everyone knows. I assume
Speaker 1: if you're a Seattle light or your Seattle area person
Speaker 1: like Lyle, or you visit Seattle and you need to
Speaker 1: go to a sightseeing spot, I'm pretty certain you know
Speaker 1: what Kerry Park is. Kerry Park is on Queen Ane Hill,
Speaker 1: overlooks the skyline, overlooks the Puget Sound. You can see
Speaker 1: the ferries, you can see the Olympic Mountains. It's nice.
Speaker 1: It looks you know, southwest ish more south than west,
Speaker 1: but it looks southwest. And I'd say the sunset from
Speaker 1: Kerry Park is fine. But if you're at Carry Park
Speaker 1: and then you turn right on High Island Drive which
Speaker 1: is where Kerry Park is on, and you walk all
Speaker 1: the way to the end of the street. Walking west,
Speaker 1: you get to Marshall Park. And Marshall Park is right
Speaker 1: next to Eighth Place, I believe, And Eighth Place runs
Speaker 1: right along this just top edge of queen An Hill
Speaker 1: in the just nicest houses ever that are worth multi
Speaker 1: millions are up there right and they're all gated off.
Speaker 1: But there's this really nice walkway too along this along
Speaker 1: Eighth Place and you can look straight out west you
Speaker 1: see the Olympic Mountains and you see the sunset there.
Speaker 1: I took front of the pod Victor Wren there after
Speaker 1: our freshman year of college. We walked up there during
Speaker 1: the sunset and it was gorgeous. You can see everything.
Speaker 1: You can see the sun like sort of fitting in
Speaker 1: between the mountains and Magnolia, which is the hill across
Speaker 1: from where Queen Anne Hill is, and it's it's spectacular.
Speaker 1: I think it's a fantastic spot to see a sunset,
Speaker 1: little niche and you know, again not the most popular
Speaker 1: park on that street, but if you want a sunset,
Speaker 1: I couldn't recommend that more. I think it's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never been. I've now I have another spot
Speaker 2: to check out because I've certainly been to Kerry Park
Speaker 2: but never never Marshall Park. Yeah. Victor who We've mentioned
Speaker 2: him before. He does like he made our YouTube background.
Speaker 2: He's done a few different things to help us out
Speaker 2: where he does a bunch of video editing and that's
Speaker 2: his job and he's really good at it. So that
Speaker 2: is what he does. No, he does well, he does
Speaker 2: a variety of stuff with under Armour, I know. But yeah,
Speaker 2: So anyway, my favorite spot to watch a Seattle sunset
Speaker 2: is it's got to be gas Works Park. Maybe that's
Speaker 2: a cliche answer and a basic answer, but I know
Speaker 2: you see the water at Carry Park, but the fact
Speaker 2: you're literally right on the water at gas Works and
Speaker 2: like especially when it gets to night time, like after
Speaker 2: the sunsets and you have the skyline kind of like
Speaker 2: lighting up the water and you got a perfect view
Speaker 2: of the space Needle and the Columbia Tower. I love
Speaker 2: Yas Works Park. I think that, especially on a nice day,
Speaker 2: love that view. Like Harry Park's great, personally, I like
Speaker 2: gas Works better.
Speaker 1: I love gas Works too. I mean that's a spot
Speaker 1: for for us Seattle kids. I like all the time
Speaker 1: that we would be at sunset. Wise, I was thinking,
Speaker 1: like the sun gets kind of blocked out there, which
Speaker 1: is what I was thinking. I know, it lights up
Speaker 1: the sky and looks nice, but I'm just I was
Speaker 1: just thinking, I'm like the sun kind of tucks behind
Speaker 1: Queen Anne when when it's going down at that point,
Speaker 1: because Queen Anne is directly west of gas Works Park
Speaker 1: and it would drop behind there. But for sunset, still
Speaker 1: a very good place to go, especially during the summer.
Speaker 1: It's warm, you can see the whole skyline, you can
Speaker 1: see all the boats out on Lake Union. It's super
Speaker 1: super super nice, and uh yeah, it's it's a good
Speaker 1: spot throughout I mean through the years. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking when I went there during during high
Speaker 1: school and we do all sorts of hooligan shit, I'll
Speaker 1: just leave it like that at uh at gas Work Park,
Speaker 1: and then you know how it's sort of grown over
Speaker 1: the years and still still one of the best spots
Speaker 1: to go to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, be on the lookout for TJ of all people.
Speaker 2: That's how we should put it.
Speaker 1: Now, you ever, have you ever been up on the
Speaker 1: gas structure, like climbed up it. No, yeah, I have once. Well,
Speaker 1: there you go. They do some they do. It's they
Speaker 1: made it a little harder, I believe now.
Speaker 2: But I think it's gated.
Speaker 1: No, it's an interesting it is. Well, yeah, you got
Speaker 1: to find a way through it. It's always has been
Speaker 1: gated off. You just got to find a way through it. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's a but like the view, I'll say, the
Speaker 1: view up there at night is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that honestly might even be more it the sunset,
Speaker 2: Like after the sun goes down and it's it's dark,
Speaker 2: but you have the whole skyline lighting up. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: love it. So yeah, No, those those are those are
Speaker 2: good places to watch a sunset. Okay, I'll throw it
Speaker 2: back to you now to get through some more of
Speaker 2: these questions. But I will say the next view are
Speaker 2: definitely mariners related. I thought the last we got were
Speaker 2: some fun non mariners related ones. But it's a mix
Speaker 2: of everything in the mailbag.
Speaker 1: The next one comes from Evanhole Evanholmes dot seventeen on Instagram.
Speaker 1: The question is who will be the Mariner's most valuable
Speaker 1: hitter not named Julio Rodriguez.
Speaker 2: I went with Mitch Garver for this. As everybody knows,
Speaker 2: the DH position has been a disaster since Nelson Cruz left,
Speaker 2: like and I don't think that's an unfair statement. Last
Speaker 2: year it was a turnstile constantly. They couldn't find a
Speaker 2: solution there. Now they've got one. And not only do
Speaker 2: they have a solution at DH, but it's a solution
Speaker 2: at DH for a guy that put up a one
Speaker 2: thirty eight WRC plus last year. I know it was
Speaker 2: in a shortened sample size, but that was higher than Julio's,
Speaker 2: that was higher than JP's, that was higher than the
Speaker 2: rest of the team. Mitch Garver is vitally important to
Speaker 2: the Mariners in twenty twenty four and beyond because if
Speaker 2: you have a true DH, you can plug in there
Speaker 2: almost every day. Who's providing pop, getting on base, striking out.
Speaker 2: This lineup is gonna look so much different. I will
Speaker 2: say ty Frantz is probably a sleeper for this, especially
Speaker 2: if he bounces back. But who's who's my pick? Non
Speaker 2: Julio Wise to be the most impactful Garber And.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go off a similar train of thought, but
Speaker 1: at a different position, And I think Jorge Polanco first off,
Speaker 1: because if we're thinking, like literally, like who is gonna
Speaker 1: be the most valuable hitter besides Julio Rodriguez, Well, it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be one of the guys hitting behind him.
Speaker 1: You mentioned one of the guys hitting behind him, Mitch Garverer.
Speaker 1: Another guy who's gonna be hitting behind him is Jorge Polanco.
Speaker 1: Jorge Polanco, based off the past production over the last
Speaker 1: four years at second base, I mean, I would imagine,
Speaker 1: if he's healthy this year, is gonna be like one
Speaker 1: of the most valuable players on the roster just because
Speaker 1: of the production at that position in the past. Like
Speaker 1: what happens if the Mariner's gonna one to twenty five
Speaker 1: w RC plus at second base after years of like
Speaker 1: an eighty to seventy w RC plus at second base,
Speaker 1: I can't, Like, it is unbelievable the amount of value
Speaker 1: that carries on this roster. I was thinking that if
Speaker 1: JP were to replicate or even exceed his twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three season. In twenty twenty four, that's an option now.
Speaker 1: As of right now, I don't think that's gonna happen
Speaker 1: for JP. So instead I'm gonna count on more of
Speaker 1: a progress progress from Jorge Polanco playing a full healthy
Speaker 1: season with the Mariners this year, instead of anticipating JP
Speaker 1: is going to set a new career high after blowing
Speaker 1: his old status quo for offense out of the water
Speaker 1: last season. So I think you and I took similar
Speaker 1: trains of thought to arrive at different answers, which I
Speaker 1: think is good and shows you the depth of this roster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look for how much second base and DH the
Speaker 2: DH spots have struggled the last few years for the Mariners.
Speaker 2: Think about what happens at both Garb and Polanco that well.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about the Mariners missed the playoffs by
Speaker 2: two games last year, They won eighty eight games and
Speaker 2: had virtually no offensive production from second base until Josh
Speaker 2: Rojas got there, and then virtually nothing for a lot
Speaker 2: of the year at the dhpot. In spurts, you had
Speaker 2: it with Mike Ford. Imagine if you have Jorge Polanco
Speaker 2: and Mitch Garver both on the field and put up
Speaker 2: a one twenty to one to twenty five WRC plus.
Speaker 2: That is a team that, again, you you heard me
Speaker 2: on a previous show recently talk about the Mariners can
Speaker 2: win the West if those guys do that, and the
Speaker 2: rest of the lineup hits like why not think about
Speaker 2: how much better that makes your team? It makes it
Speaker 2: monumentally better. So, oh and let me add this last
Speaker 2: thing too. When when TJ talks about the fact that
Speaker 2: he doesn't know if JP's going to repeat what he
Speaker 2: did last season, I think all TJ means by that is,
Speaker 2: maybe he doesn't put up a one thirty four WRC
Speaker 2: plus again, he could still be from one twenty to
Speaker 2: one twenty five, And in fact, I think that's right
Speaker 2: where he will be, which, by the way, that's a
Speaker 2: really good season. Just maybe it's not one thirty four again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just think about this way. And the previous
Speaker 1: career high for JP at before last season was one
Speaker 1: o three and then you jump up to one thirty four.
Speaker 1: That's it's a pretty big jump. And usually that is
Speaker 1: that's about as big of a jump as you can
Speaker 1: get an offense in a season. So now if you
Speaker 1: were to jump from one thirty to one sixty five.
Speaker 1: Then you and I are going to sit here and
Speaker 1: reconsider in season.
Speaker 2: He does that JP might win the MVP.
Speaker 1: Yeah, win the MVP, and well the question wouldn't be
Speaker 1: besides Julio would be besides JP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. All right. Next question another fun one.
Speaker 2: This comes from WB dot Ryan thirty six on Instagram.
Speaker 2: He says, who is your favorite player on the Mariners
Speaker 2: that isn't actually that good? So we took the approach
Speaker 2: of this and picking an all time Mariner that fits
Speaker 2: the mold of this question. And there are a lot
Speaker 2: of answers you can go with, but I'll flip it
Speaker 2: to you first.
Speaker 1: Because I was trying to think of like a current
Speaker 1: version of the may A current Mariner who I loved
Speaker 1: that wasn't actually that good. And then I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: all the Mariners that weren't actually that good end up
Speaker 1: being like essentially Abe Toro, who I don't like. So
Speaker 1: that doesn't work out. Do you remember the first two
Speaker 1: months of the Nick Franklin era in twenty thirteen? It
Speaker 1: was dreamy?
Speaker 2: Of course, I remember the Nick Franklin era.
Speaker 1: Man when he came up, I mean, I thought that
Speaker 1: dude was going to be an All Star like he was.
Speaker 1: He was stunned. Sat I remember me, my brother and
Speaker 1: my dad sat at the kitchen table that year and
Speaker 1: we were thinking, Okay, who is going to be the
Speaker 1: next Mariners All Star infielder? Is it going to be
Speaker 1: Nick Franklin, Brad Miller or Kyle Seger's the That's the
Speaker 1: level of discussion we were having about the early stages
Speaker 1: of Nick Franklin's career with the Mariners in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: And he had nearly an eight hundred ops as a
Speaker 1: second baseman in the first half of twenty thirteen, and
Speaker 1: then in the second half he hit under two hundred essentially,
Speaker 1: and then eventually got left off the roster, bounced around
Speaker 1: for a few years in the big leagues before retiring.
Speaker 1: But his early stages were amazing. I thought, I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is well. The Mariners don't get good players like this.
Speaker 2: Do you remember just the pattern that Mariner's shortstop prospects
Speaker 2: had for a while, because that happened with Nick Franklin.
Speaker 2: Then Brad Miller tore it up for half a year
Speaker 2: when he got up and to be fair Miller, I
Speaker 2: mean Miller's had a ten year big league career, and
Speaker 2: he's had some good spurts when he was with the Mariners,
Speaker 2: but then Chris Taylor came up, had half a really
Speaker 2: good season and then didn't really do anything. And Kittel
Speaker 2: came up and had half a really good season, and
Speaker 2: obviously they traded him away. He's been great with the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 2: But that was a trend for a while, and it's
Speaker 2: all started with Nick Franklin, who was a huge prospect
Speaker 2: unfortunately didn't do much.
Speaker 1: HM shocker wow. I wonder how they evaluated him. Were
Speaker 1: Jack Sie's the checkpoints is batting average and RBIs.
Speaker 2: The man literally said home runs and RBI's awesome, like
Speaker 2: Dick Franklin's.
Speaker 1: My answer, though he was that was that was to
Speaker 1: say special first half of twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: Mine's a deep cut. But I've talked about him on
Speaker 2: here before briefly. Carlos Pagero loved that. Dude, absolutely loved him,
Speaker 2: which didn't make much sense because he didn't have any
Speaker 2: sort of big league career. But you know what, those
Speaker 2: Mariner teams in the early twenty tens were so bad
Speaker 2: that you had to have something to hang on to.
Speaker 2: That was fun and gave you energy, and you know
Speaker 2: what it was for me. Every time Carlos Paguero stepped
Speaker 2: to the plate, you knew, once in every twenty year
Speaker 2: or so at bats, he was going to absolutely pummel
Speaker 2: a baseball. And you know, there were some spurts where
Speaker 2: he did just about that. Honestly, maybe it was less
Speaker 2: than every once every twenty at bats, but even still,
Speaker 2: you knew once in a blue moon he was going
Speaker 2: to absolutely rocket a baseball into orbit, and he would.
Speaker 2: You would see him hit tape measure bombs every now
Speaker 2: and then. Love the guy. He was big, he was strong, everything,
Speaker 2: so never did much. But I'll tell you what, what
Speaker 2: was I looking forward to in the early twenty tens.
Speaker 2: It wasn't winning games. It was seeing Carlos S. Paguero
Speaker 2: at thatts.
Speaker 1: I had another idea for this question, which was Russell Branyan.
Speaker 1: But he was actually kind of good for the Mariners
Speaker 1: at points, so I don't know if he would have
Speaker 1: really qualified.
Speaker 2: No, he had one big year that was an nine,
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I don't think Brandon qualifies.
Speaker 1: Well, it was a thought. He was a lot of
Speaker 1: fun to watch overall as a baseball player, probably not
Speaker 1: great but at least what the Mariners. He was so
Speaker 1: didn't qualify, but shout out to Nick Franklin. He's on
Speaker 1: my Mount rushmore of what could have been alongside Brad
Speaker 1: Miller Dustin Acley. Oh, they all played on the same
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Speaker 1: Next question coming from Tyler D. Millard on Instagram. Which
Speaker 1: players do you think make the opening day lineup and
Speaker 1: how many of them will still be here in October?
Speaker 2: So projecting the opening day lineup is gonna be a
Speaker 2: little bit tough because obviously there's some platoons involved. Now,
Speaker 2: if you were to assume that Brian Bao or Lucas
Speaker 2: Giolito was going to start opening Day for the Red Sox,
Speaker 2: you would assume it would be some left handed bats,
Speaker 2: So it would probably be Rojas over Ris if Arias
Speaker 2: is even healthy, it would probably be don Canzone over
Speaker 2: Mitch Hanneger. But the starters are all the same like
Speaker 2: Hannager is gonna get playing time, Arias is gonna get
Speaker 2: playing time if he's healthy. Again. Platoons take a factor
Speaker 2: into this still here in October, unless there's injuries, which
Speaker 2: of course is possible, like if a player gets injured
Speaker 2: and is not on the field in October because they're
Speaker 2: on the il, that's always a possibility. But in terms
Speaker 2: of being out of the organization, I don't know if
Speaker 2: there's many guys that are currently projected to be in
Speaker 2: the opening day lineup that would be off the team.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's that many. Maybe the one guy
Speaker 2: is is Aris at third base, like for example, if
Speaker 2: he's not playing well, or if he you know, is
Speaker 2: hurt for a while and the team tries to move
Speaker 2: on and do something else or something like that, because
Speaker 2: again there is a chance he starts on the el
Speaker 2: if you can't throw the ball, maybe him. But I
Speaker 2: don't think there's a lot. I think most of the
Speaker 2: guys that they've traded for they already have in house.
Speaker 2: They're envisioning as being four pieces of the team.
Speaker 1: I think opening day lineup would be for the most
Speaker 1: part the same, barring and upgraded the deadline. But if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, overall opening day roster, would the number
Speaker 1: six players six different players make sense? I was thinking
Speaker 1: about it this way. There's gonna be turnover in the bullpen.
Speaker 1: There is every single season that, especially if this current
Speaker 1: iteration of the Mariners, there's been like three to four
Speaker 1: guys at least that have cycled out over the course
Speaker 1: of the season in the bullpen. So there's those three
Speaker 1: to four one starter potentially it could be Emerson Hancock
Speaker 1: in there over Let's say Brian who either gets hurt
Speaker 1: or his reaches his innings limit and they slow and
Speaker 1: slow him down a little bit. So there's like one starter,
Speaker 1: and then I would say one player on the bench
Speaker 1: once you reach October that could be swapped out. It
Speaker 1: could be just it could be as simple as a
Speaker 1: Sam Haggerty being put in there, or it could be
Speaker 1: when you add a position player and you bump, say
Speaker 1: Demo down and that bumps the next bench player down
Speaker 1: to something like that. As of right now, especially now
Speaker 1: that they have four outfielders they feel confident in, that's
Speaker 1: probably the outfield probably stays the same, and the infield
Speaker 1: as of right now probably stays the same. Sans Urius
Speaker 1: who could get swapped out or even like you know,
Speaker 1: there could be some world Josh Rojas really doesn't do
Speaker 1: that well this year, and if they really need to
Speaker 1: make a push, they would consider it. But at this
Speaker 1: very point, more unlikely than not. The only position player
Speaker 1: well I could truly see being added in season would
Speaker 1: be a backup centerfielder because to be honest, they don't
Speaker 1: have a backup center fielder right now to back up Julio,
Speaker 1: so that would that would be like one guy. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of hard to see at this moment.
Speaker 2: That's actually a good point. If Julio, heaven forbid, goes
Speaker 2: on the IL at some point this year, or just
Speaker 2: has off days or is day to day for a
Speaker 2: few days, yeah, who is playing center field? Like I
Speaker 2: would say maybe, or I was gonna say, if it's
Speaker 2: an actual situation where they have to make a roster move,
Speaker 2: you can call Kate Marlow up. He could certainly play
Speaker 2: some centerfield. But the if Julio's day to day for example,
Speaker 2: or has an off day, I don't really know of
Speaker 2: this outfield group who's playing center field. I mean, Mitch isn't,
Speaker 2: dom is in. Really I don't really think is I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe it's demo, maybe it's not. It might
Speaker 2: be demo or yeah, they probably have to cull Kato
Speaker 2: or or maybe some odd Taylor, right, yeah, potentially yep, somebody, somebody,
Speaker 2: but somebody who's probably not on the opening twenty six
Speaker 2: man roster. Mm hmm, yeah that is. I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: you're on. Most teams do not find positions to back
Speaker 2: up their superstars like intently, but you do have to
Speaker 2: have somebody that can stand out there and play some
Speaker 2: competent defense out there. Julio's gonna have off days or again,
Speaker 2: hopefully never hits the IL, but if you were to
Speaker 2: then then yeah, that's a good point. Okay, we got
Speaker 2: two fun questions to wrap this one up. The next
Speaker 2: one comes from Eternal Bushett on Instagram. He says favorite
Speaker 2: ballpark food.
Speaker 1: Hmm. I had to think like long and hard about
Speaker 1: this one only to come to the most basic answer ever,
Speaker 1: Just like I like a good cheeseburger at a stadium,
Speaker 1: I think stadiums can do all. Every different stadium you
Speaker 1: go to can have a different version of something you like,
Speaker 1: whether it be a different company that makes the burger
Speaker 1: or different style of burger. Depending on what city you're in.
Speaker 1: For example, I think of t Mobile Park, like Kid Valley.
Speaker 1: If we're thinking chains, I think His Good Burgers. But
Speaker 1: if you want more of a niche chain, Burger Great State.
Speaker 1: When they were in the ballpark, I thought had the
Speaker 1: best food in the park. Unfortunately they're not there anymore.
Speaker 1: They were down there in the pen in the corner
Speaker 1: behind the masses. I thought that was my favorite meal
Speaker 1: while they were there, but they're unfortunately not there anymore.
Speaker 1: So I think a burger. I think it's the most
Speaker 1: most easy to replicate throughout a stadium while also getting
Speaker 1: some uniqueness city to city, ballpark to ballpark. But overall,
Speaker 1: my favorite thing to consume it a ballpark is beer
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of beer, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of different beer all over the country. So I think
Speaker 1: that would be the easiest one for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have a go to beer you usually
Speaker 2: get at the ballpark?
Speaker 1: Well, I like the Mariners value beers. I think that
Speaker 1: is an incredible concept in a ballpark, especially you know,
Speaker 1: we're in our mid twenties. We don't if we can
Speaker 1: not shell out fourteen dollars for a beer or like
Speaker 1: we were at City Field a year and a half ago,
Speaker 1: or my brother and I each spent sixteen dollars on
Speaker 1: a tall Boy. It just it' said, that's a bit much.
Speaker 1: I would rather go like value beer, where you can
Speaker 1: buy two at a time and you can get two
Speaker 1: six dollar beers for twelve dollars and take them both
Speaker 1: back to your seat and enjoy and they're throughout the game.
Speaker 1: You don't have to go during happy hour anything like that.
Speaker 1: I do like body a Rubens Beer, Ruben's Brewing and
Speaker 1: Ballard shout out Ballard. So you know, support the support
Speaker 1: the home neighborhood a little bit, and it's good. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good options. T Mobile has among
Speaker 1: the best beer options in the in all Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a real treat to be able
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. So that's my answer,
Speaker 1: not just beer.
Speaker 2: T Mobile Park has maybe the best food options in
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: Like it's up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a I would say. Okay, so my favorite
Speaker 2: all time ballpark food is Dippin' dots, which I mean
Speaker 2: that's what I always got when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: Funny story. I mean, I mean, if you just want
Speaker 2: to peek behind the curtain me growing up going to
Speaker 2: Mariners games. I don't know why we ever established this
Speaker 2: and put it in place, but it was something we
Speaker 2: always did growing up. That always in the sixth inning,
Speaker 2: my brother and I would usually go like with my parents,
Speaker 2: and we go get Dippin' Dots because we loved them.
Speaker 2: We wanted to get desserted the game. That's what we
Speaker 2: would do, and I feel like I usually got cookies
Speaker 2: and cream Dippin' dots, although I would often venture out
Speaker 2: into some other flavors too. So all time favorite food
Speaker 2: at the ballpark, I'd say Dippin' dots. Favorite food at
Speaker 2: t Mobile Park, especially that I've tried over the last
Speaker 2: couple of years. There's a couple of sandwiches from Marination
Speaker 2: that I think are really good, Like that barbecue pork
Speaker 2: sandwich I had was really good, good choice, or that
Speaker 2: barbie it was early in the year. It was those
Speaker 2: games in April you and I were at. I tried
Speaker 2: that barbecue brisket Casadia that was down at Edgar's that
Speaker 2: was really good. I would say one of those two
Speaker 2: foods would be my favorite Team Mobile Park food.
Speaker 1: Stadium wise, Edgars has some really good sandwiches. I forget
Speaker 1: what they're called, just blanking.
Speaker 2: That was really good. Again, that barbecue brisket Casadio is really.
Speaker 1: Good, and like Ballard Pizza Company always has really good
Speaker 1: food at t Mobile Park. I like that. And there's
Speaker 1: some more creative options too, like Charlie's Cheese Steaks is
Speaker 1: also pretty solid for ballpark fair And then Moto Pizza
Speaker 1: I think is is like like you had it, It's
Speaker 1: pretty good, just very expensive in the ballpark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's here's the problem with Moto Pizza. It's really expensive.
Speaker 2: It's always a super long line, and it's it's fine.
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not gonna say it tastes like Little
Speaker 2: Caesars or something like. It's probably a step up from that,
Speaker 2: but it's especially when you have East Coast roots like
Speaker 2: the two of us have and you get accustomed to
Speaker 2: having like New York pizza and stuff, it just doesn't
Speaker 2: really compare Moto Pizza. So I'd usually venture out into
Speaker 2: other options at the ballpark, probably the Motto Pizza. But
Speaker 2: I did get it to try and try it.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure the brick and mortar place is a
Speaker 1: little bit better than the stadium one, like give them credit.
Speaker 1: I know their brick and mortar place probably still is
Speaker 1: a month long weight line to get it. But if
Speaker 1: you can't even like match Pagliachi, then like you probably
Speaker 1: shrug your shoulders. And I would just in the ballpark
Speaker 1: rather just go to Ballard Pizza Company because it's it's
Speaker 1: probably better than Motal Pizza and you could get your
Speaker 1: pizza way faster, so you can you can get.
Speaker 2: The cal zone like c al all capital letters, you
Speaker 2: can get that. Or you mentioned Charlie's cheese steaks. So
Speaker 2: early in the year, TJ and I were doing some
Speaker 2: food reviews. We kind of stopped doing them as the
Speaker 2: season went on, but TJ got one of those cheese
Speaker 2: steaks and I remember he was like he near got
Speaker 2: it all over himself trying to try it. It was huge,
Speaker 2: it was filled up, and he was like trying to
Speaker 2: get the big bite in without spilling on himself. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like you get a lot of food if you go there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a mess, And I mean didn't ty
Speaker 1: Fung in Theory is probably maybe the best overall restaurant
Speaker 1: they have in there, but not like the ballpark version
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if I was gonna go to dn't typhoon,
Speaker 2: you probably just go to the restaurant. I feel like,
Speaker 2: like my family and I used to so that was
Speaker 2: always my brother's spot to go for his birthday. He
Speaker 2: loves it, so we would go at least once a
Speaker 2: year for his birthday. So I feel like if I
Speaker 2: was going to go, id just go to the restaurant,
Speaker 2: then go to the ball right right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point. Yeah, I can't think of
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of anything in like any other
Speaker 1: ballpark would have that could top what I chose, like
Speaker 1: off of the Hamburger point. Apparently, like the Yankee Stadium,
Speaker 1: like Aaron Judge, Burger is supposed to be unbelievable, like yeah,
Speaker 1: wagou patties, like it looks unbelievable, and if I'm sure
Speaker 1: I took a bite of it, I don't think anything
Speaker 1: else could top it across the country. Unfortunately, again, they
Speaker 1: sell one hundred of them per game, or ninety nine
Speaker 1: of them per game. I think it might be ninety nine.
Speaker 1: It's ninety nine, Yeah, ninety nine of them per game.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a little probably a little difficult to
Speaker 1: get your hands on. But I would say that that
Speaker 1: would probably end up be the number one thing if
Speaker 1: you could, if you could manage it, I couldn't think
Speaker 1: of anything else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the last thing and then we can get
Speaker 2: to our final question. I remember we got recommended when
Speaker 2: we get our cross country drive from Seattle to the
Speaker 2: Cape League. Before our second summer calling baseball games in
Speaker 2: the Cape Cod League, we went to go see the
Speaker 2: Pirates in Pittsburgh at PNC and people were raving about
Speaker 2: that primanty bro sandwich, Like, what was the hype? I
Speaker 2: tried it. I didn't know it was very good.
Speaker 1: That was so tasteless. Again, I think I wanted to
Speaker 1: would prefer going to the brick and mortar over the
Speaker 1: P and C Park location. I feel like the brick
Speaker 1: and mortar place would be good. But you know, it
Speaker 1: was a sandwich filled with French fries. It was just
Speaker 1: like a load of carbs. I didn't think the meat
Speaker 1: was very good either, So I yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I was like very disappointed in that sandwich. I had
Speaker 1: my expectations set a lot higher. I've had some very
Speaker 1: good sandwiches in my life. Unfortunately that was not one
Speaker 1: of them. So I would if I'm ever back in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: I'd like to try the actual place and then give
Speaker 1: it a fair review. Yeah, instead of a rain delayed
Speaker 1: French fry and whatever meat sandwich? Like, do you remember
Speaker 1: what the meat was in there? I don't.
Speaker 2: Was it not just check in or something?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I couldn't even tell it, Like felt
Speaker 1: like a sausage patty.
Speaker 2: But yeah, for those who don't know, Primanty Bros. Is
Speaker 2: one of the Pittsburgh staples. It's a sandwich shop. They
Speaker 2: do some really unique sandwiches. Again, they put French fries
Speaker 2: in a lot of them. But yeah, at the ballpark, eh,
Speaker 2: could have been a lot better. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, let's wrap it up with our final question
Speaker 1: here of this mail bag. This is asked by I
Speaker 1: gotta look here because it's very small, Eric Schultz. He
Speaker 1: left us a comment on YouTube. What is your favorite
Speaker 1: baseball and non baseball movie?
Speaker 2: Favorite baseball movie? The problem is I love all of them.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be so many I leave out. If I
Speaker 2: have to pick one, it's probably Moneyball, But I legitimately
Speaker 2: love every baseball movie that's been made or just about
Speaker 2: so Moneyball is my favorite. I will say for those
Speaker 2: who haven't seen Eight Men Out. I could not recommend
Speaker 2: it enough because when people think of baseball, Mount Rushmore's
Speaker 2: Eight Men Out never gets put on there because you
Speaker 2: have the Sandlot, you have a league of their own,
Speaker 2: you have Major League, you had like, there's so many
Speaker 2: other movies that come to mind first for people, but
Speaker 2: Eight Men Out is and all those movies I just
Speaker 2: mentioned are great, but Eight Men Out really tells the
Speaker 2: story of the nineteen nineteen White Sox and how they
Speaker 2: threw the World Series and then there was you know,
Speaker 2: the trials for it, and then they hired their the
Speaker 2: first Commissioner of Baseball and then they get banned from baseball.
Speaker 2: It's it's super interesting and I think it's really well done.
Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, it's not one of those Mount
Speaker 2: Rushmore baseball movies everybody thinks of so favorites Moneyball. But
Speaker 2: if you need a baseball movie to go watch and
Speaker 2: you potentially haven't seen it, I recommend Eight Men Out
Speaker 2: big time.
Speaker 1: So my favorite baseball move. So, actually, before I get
Speaker 1: to my answer, what's your favorite non baseball movie?
Speaker 2: Oh, well, there's two ways I could go about this.
Speaker 2: So I love a lot of really stupid movies, Like
Speaker 2: when people ask me what my favorite movie is, It's
Speaker 2: probably either Happy Gilmore or Step Brothers, which maybe is
Speaker 2: right up my alley. But if you want to get
Speaker 2: away from that, as you know, as people who listen
Speaker 2: to this podcast, No, TJ and I both really love
Speaker 2: Star Wars, So I mean the Star Wars movies, the
Speaker 2: Marvel movies, especially those Avengers movies like those are probably them.
Speaker 2: If I had to pick one Star Wars movie might
Speaker 2: be Episode three, Episode three, or episode five, so one
Speaker 2: of those. But now turn it back to you.
Speaker 1: So my favorite baseball movie is Moneyball because I love
Speaker 1: the front office aspect of it and it's just really
Speaker 1: well done, even though they kind of, you know, left
Speaker 1: out the fact the A's had the two thousand and
Speaker 1: two al MVP. But I digress and in Asaiah in
Speaker 1: the best rotation in baseball anyways, So that was a
Speaker 1: good movie. I thought it was really well done. Jonah Hell,
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt phenomenal, great great job. Non baseball movie is
Speaker 1: I'm thinking between three. First one is episode three, Revenge
Speaker 1: of the Sith the Star Wars one of the best
Speaker 1: movies ever. Acting is excellent. I could recite a lot
Speaker 1: of the lines. It's like deep, detailed, emotional, like the
Speaker 1: most fleshed out Star Wars film there is. It peaked
Speaker 1: then went downhill after Unfortunately, next up another Star Wars movie,
Speaker 1: Rogue one, one of like one of the most underrated movies.
Speaker 1: I feel like ever the story is great, the cinematics
Speaker 1: of it. It takes the older Star Wars stories, like
Speaker 1: the story building and the and the thought process and
Speaker 1: the character the character development and all of that, and
Speaker 1: then paired it with the cinematics and the sort of
Speaker 1: visual greatness of the new movies, and it was the
Speaker 1: perfect combination, like The Death Star in four KHD fucking incredible, amazing.
Speaker 1: So and in Once you like catch up on all
Speaker 1: the Star Wars lore, and you watch the cartoons, and
Speaker 1: you watch say like and Or and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and you get tied into all the other characters they
Speaker 1: feature in that film, like Saw Gerrera and Cassie and
Speaker 1: Andor and others, and continues on and on and on
Speaker 1: and on. Super cool. And then the last one, if
Speaker 1: I want like a laugher, Caddyshack, Like the I will
Speaker 1: argue the most quotable movie of all time is caddy Shack.
Speaker 1: If you sit me down to watch Caddy Shack. I
Speaker 1: could probably quote the whole movie. You can like find
Speaker 1: a quote from the movie for every situation in real life.
Speaker 1: It's it is that funny, and that this is coming
Speaker 1: from someone who doesn't like old movies. That one is
Speaker 1: a classic and one of the best best ever.
Speaker 2: I'm taking happy yo more of a Caddy Shack. Sorry.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard about Ty Burrell's uh Round of
Speaker 1: Golf with the Dalai Lama? It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Wow. The problem is, I mean, I really do need
Speaker 2: to sit down and watch Caddy Check again start to finish,
Speaker 2: because I've only seen it in parts. I need to
Speaker 2: watch it all the way through. But I was even
Speaker 2: trying to think of other movies for the two of
Speaker 2: us that we could even rattle off here, because I
Speaker 2: knew with the two of us it was gonna be
Speaker 2: sports movies, it was gonna be you know, comedies, and
Speaker 2: it was gonna be probably Star Wars. Like I mean,
Speaker 2: the only other ones that come to mind are probably
Speaker 2: other comedy movies, like I like Wedding Crashers a lot.
Speaker 2: I think that's a really good movie. That's a good
Speaker 2: I was trying to think about others that like that
Speaker 2: really kind of come to mind of of like, oh,
Speaker 2: what movies do I love to sit down and watch,
Speaker 2: But it's kind of it's kind of all in that
Speaker 2: realm for me at least.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, and the problem is with me lately, I
Speaker 1: just haven't watched enough good movies, like I haven't. I
Speaker 1: haven't watched enough movies period. Oppenheimer was amazing. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I would put it like way up there
Speaker 1: on my terms of the list. I need to watch
Speaker 1: it a few more times to solidly put it up there.
Speaker 1: And like it was, it's kind of like dramatic. I
Speaker 1: liked a little bit more like either sci fi or
Speaker 1: lighthearted movies for it to be that way instead of
Speaker 1: like a non fiction film like Oppenheimer was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Like something like that for example, or if they were
Speaker 1: to come out with a new Star Wars movie, I'd
Speaker 1: probably watch it. It probably won't be as good, but
Speaker 1: I bias, so it might be up there, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd probably watch it too. Yeah, I don't watch
Speaker 2: that many. I feel like Oscar type movies, and I
Speaker 2: probably should in the sense of like I saw arg
Speaker 2: Allile back and that was good, But I like those
Speaker 2: type of movies. I feel like I don't sit down
Speaker 2: and watch that much those ones that are you know,
Speaker 2: in Oscar nominations and people like go out of their
Speaker 2: way to sit down in the theater and really watch.
Speaker 2: I guess, like you, it's either lighthearted stuff or it's
Speaker 2: sci fi that I watch. But hey, just that's just
Speaker 2: who we are, I guess, right, mm hm. So yeah,
Speaker 2: well that was a really good round of mail bag questions.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, like, like round of applause to all
Speaker 2: our listeners and fans that send in some really good ones.
Speaker 2: Like we say, like we love answering Mariner's questions, and
Speaker 2: there's always gonna be a good handful of them included
Speaker 2: in these. But when people really kind of get out
Speaker 2: of the box and think hard about some creative questions
Speaker 2: for us, we always appreciate it because I think they
Speaker 2: spark some creative answers. Hell, the two of us sat
Speaker 2: here and debated for ten plus minutes or whatever it
Speaker 2: was about would would you corral all the all time
Speaker 2: great Mariners if it meant twenty years without a postseason drought?
Speaker 2: And we sat here debating it. So those questions are fun.
Speaker 1: That was Yeah, that was a fun one. Dog. I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you I want to relive two thousand and
Speaker 1: one again. Well I want it, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean I have no memory of it, I mean not
Speaker 2: real memories of it. So yeah, I'd love to relive it,
Speaker 2: just not for twenty years without another postseason appearance. That's all.
Speaker 2: So shout out to all the listeners. Shout out to
Speaker 2: all the fans. You guys did a great job with
Speaker 2: these mailbags. When we keep doing mail bag seriously, keep
Speaker 2: them coming because these are really fun questions. With that,
Speaker 2: that'll just about wrap up this edition of the Marine
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