1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York Groomberg eleventh Yo to Washington, 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: d C. Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg twelve hundreds to San 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Francisco Bluebird nine to the Country series Exam General one 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: nineteen and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio plus Aben 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Surveillance. Good morning, I 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Michael McKee along with Tom Keane. The European Central Bank 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: set to report its latest monetary policy decision in about 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes ahead of ad We're getting earnings by the 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: bucket full. General Motors just out earnings per share in 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: the first quarter. Adjusted earnings per share a dollar twenty six. 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: The consensus forecast was for ninety nine cents. Revenue of 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: thirty seven point three billion is higher than the estimate 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: for thirty five point six billion. If you look up 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Verizon on Yahoo, you'll find that first quarter adjusted earnings 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: per share were a dollar six. That's in line with estimates. 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: Revenue of thirty two point two billion, a little light. 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: The forecast was for thirty two and a half. Blackstone 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: first quarter profit fell seventy seven percent. Asset sales slowed, 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: economic net income. That's a measure of earnings that reflects 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: realized and unrealized investment gains, dropping to three seventy point 21 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: seven million. That's thirty one cents to share. It was 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: a dollar thirty seven a year earlier. Time now to 23 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: check with Michael Barr get the latest world and national headlines. Mike, Mike, 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: thank you very much. President Obama is in Saudi Arabia 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: for a meeting with six Arab leaders. The meeting and 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: read involved issues such as regional security and the Persian 27 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Gulf area, including the fight against the Islamic State Militant Group. 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes, we need to develop 29 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: those areas that have been devastated by a presence, and 30 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: the countries here in the g c C can be 31 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: helpful in that process. Senate Republicans are set to relent 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: on an major portion of President Obama's request to respond 33 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: to the zeek of virus. Republicans are drafting more than 34 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: a billion dollar emergency plan. That is, according to a 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: senior Republican age familiar with the matter, that might now 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: as had requested one point nine billion dollars in additional spending. 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: The Olympic flame has been lit in Greece. The game's 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: organizers voice confidence today that Brazil would overcome its political 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: and economic problems to stage at the successful Games. The 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: opening ceremony is August fifth, and Rio de Janeiro Global 41 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: News twenty four hours a day, powered by our twenty 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: four hundred journalists and more than a hundred fifty news 43 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: bureaus from around the world. I'm Michael Barr. Thank you, Michael. 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: Time now for the Landrover Parcipiti Bloomberg NBC Sports Update 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: with John Stasha. All right. I expended tight series in 46 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: the Islanders and Panthers, three one goal games and other 47 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: There was a one goal difference util an empty netter 48 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: at the end Game four, and Brooklyn was tied midway 49 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: through the third period. Florida scored one, two to one. 50 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: John Tivera scored the Islander goal. Hunter is all we wanted, 51 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: and uh, it's not a good enough game from us. 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: We always had a great opportunity, just didn't take advantage 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: of it. So we gotta move forward and get ready 54 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: for Game five and you know, bounce back obviously, you uh, 55 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: we know with has been all over the ice in 56 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: this series. Three goals, four assists. They go back to 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: Miami Tomorrow's Game five series tied at two, and that's 58 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: the Ranger goal. Need to win at the Garden tonight 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: to tie Pittsburgh it too. The Yankees struggles continue. Solo 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: home runs by D. D. Gregorius and Carlos Beltrump, but 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: only four other hits over for four with runners and 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: scoring position. They lost to Oakland five to two and 63 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: now dropped six of seven and have all in all 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: six losses, Yanks have scored just one or two runs. 65 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: Mets cooled off in Philadelphia, losing five, four and eleven 66 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: innings YO, Na, Sespitus, and Lucas due to homeward for 67 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: New York NFL Caroline I was sending the franchise tag 68 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: of All Pro quarterback Josh Norman. He becomes a free agent. 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles acquired the second pick of next week's 70 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: draft from Cleveland, l A. Rams had already made a 71 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: trade with Tennessee to get the first pick. Both the 72 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: Rams and Eagles expected to draft quarterbacks Jared Goff and 73 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz are the top two with the bloom Bird. 74 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: NBC Sports Update, I'm John Stapsha, Thank you, John Well, 75 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: General ootors beating earnings forecasts, and now the stock is 76 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: much higher, up three point six percent in the pre 77 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: market trade. This is Bloomberg Surveillance. You're listening to Bloomberg 78 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: Radio worldwide and welcome back to surveillance. I'm Michael McKee. 79 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: We are right now about eleven minutes or so away 80 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: from the ECB rate decision. No change expected. But ahead 81 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: of that decision, the stock six hundred is down two 82 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: point six tenths of a percent, the docks off twenty 83 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: five points. Also to tense US futures. Little change SNP 84 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: even he's a point about a tenth time now for 85 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg n j I T STEM Report, brought to 86 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: you by New Jersey Institute of Technology, investing more than 87 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: a hundred and ten million dollars a year two applied 88 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: research to solve problems and improved life. Learn more at 89 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Stories of Innovation dot n j I T dot. Here's 90 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: John Tucker. Yeah, let's see what's make news and science, technology, engineering, 91 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: and math. Taxis aren't the only ones that maybe stressing 92 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: he had about Uber Technologies. Transactions from the ride hailing 93 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: startup have surpassed rental cars among American professionals. This according 94 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: to Certify the second biggest provider of travel and expense 95 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: management software in North America, Uber accounting for fort of 96 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: ground transportation transactions expensed through Certified last quarter. While rental 97 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: Cars had right handling services with Uber at the forefront, 98 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: overtook rental Cars for the first time in the fourth 99 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: quarter off and have since widened their leave. This according 100 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: to a study by Certify that was published today. US 101 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: rocket manufacturers stand again if the draft five fifty six 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: billion dollar Commerce Justice Science Spending Bill for a fiscal 103 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: seventeen advancing through the Senate becomes law. The Senate c 104 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: JS Appropriation Subcuvity, by unanimous consent, sent the draft measure 105 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: to the Full Committee for a markup. Today. Bill, according 106 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: to the the summer is provided by the sender of Appropriations Committee, 107 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: contains nineteen point three billion dollars for NASA. That would 108 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: be an increase at That is this morning's Bloomberg m 109 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: G I. T. Snam Report. Michael, thank you very much. Well. 110 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: We're joined now by Admiral James Stavridis. He is the 111 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: dean of the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at 112 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: Toughs University. Formerly the highest ranking admiral you can get 113 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: in the U. S Navy, served as the Commander of 114 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 1: the US European Command in NATO's UH Supreme Command in Europe, 115 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: Commander of the US Southern Command UM. Very long Navy 116 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: business card. Jim, I want to ask you about the 117 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: President's trip to the Middle East, the stop in Saudi Arabia, 118 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: because we have been up and down in our political 119 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: relationship with the Saudiast, but the military relationship has remained 120 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: fairly stable despite our differences. They have always allowed the 121 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,119 Speaker 1: US to basically operate in their theater, and they are 122 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: big customers for our weapons systems. So, UM, is the 123 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: spat between US and the Saudias over UH nine eleven, 124 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: over what's going on with oil and that sort of thing? UH? 125 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: Is that just temporary? UH is a relationship more fundamental 126 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: and deeper From the point of view of somebody who 127 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: looks at the strategic picture, My good morning. I think 128 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: you've categorized it correctly, which is that the long term 129 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: strategic interest of the United States and the Kingdom of 130 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia aligned very well. They are and have been 131 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: very close allies. They continue to do an extraordinarily good 132 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: job of working with US. On a military to military basis, 133 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: But we have some significant tactical disagreements, if you will. 134 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: The first one you already mentioned is the contention that 135 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: some level of the Saudi government was involved in the 136 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: nine eleven attacks. There's still some classified material that hopefully 137 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: will be released soon that I hope will pretty much 138 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: lay that to rest, but we don't know until we 139 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: see that. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, is the contratone 140 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: between Iran and Saudi Arabia, which is quite significant. It's 141 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: not only a Sunni Shia divide, but it's a direct 142 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: disagreement in Yemen, where effectively their troops are opposing each 143 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: other in the Persian Gulf itself, at sea in Syria, 144 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: where Iran supports Assad and the Saudis do not. So 145 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: there's this overlay of disagreement between Iran and Saudi Arabia 146 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: and UH. To the point of this meeting by the 147 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: President arriving in Saudi Arabia, UM, he's there to try 148 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: and assuage the concerns of the Saudias about the Iran 149 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: nuclear deal and whether we continue to truly value them 150 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: as allies. So it's a tricky time and it will 151 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: be a I think a contentious set of meetings for 152 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: the president. How did the Iranians and saudiast stack up militarily? 153 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: Is it basically a standoff here as they're a sort 154 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: of a mutual ability to hurt the other that keeps 155 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: them from direct conflict. In terms of how they stack up, 156 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: it's an interesting pair of military relationships as follows. The 157 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: Saudis are much more technically capable because they had had 158 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: an enormous amount of oil wealth as well as access 159 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: to Western military markets, so their jets are better, their 160 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: tanks are better, that all of their hardware is two 161 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: or three generations better than anything the Iranians are fielding. 162 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: On the other hand, Iran has invested quite a bit 163 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: in ballistic missile technology. This is why the Saudis want 164 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: ballistic missile defenses more from us. And secondly, the Iranians 165 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: have a comparatively massive ground force be because of the 166 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: population differences between the two countries. So I would give 167 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: the Saudiast the technological edge, I'd give the Iranians the 168 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: combat experience and pure size of the ground force edge, 169 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: And I don't think we're going to see them go 170 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: to direct conflict with each other. We'll see more surrogate 171 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: type activity like we do today. Mike, let's come back 172 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: with Admiral James S. Taffrit di Seas. Now that you 173 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: know the Fletcher School of Law and diplomacy, a lot 174 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: going out in US politics, the touch on foreign affairs, 175 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: and we'll get his thoughts on that. Coming up. We 176 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: will also have the ECB decision for you in about 177 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: five minutes. They put out the numbers on interest rates 178 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: at seven forty five Wall Street time. Then at eight 179 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: thirty Mario Drag will explain anything else we need to 180 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: know about their policy, and we'll have that news conference 181 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: for you here live on Bloomberg. 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Nim X screwed oil 204 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: down a tenth of upper cent or six cents to 205 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: forty four twelve of arrol Comex gold is up half 206 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: percent or five dollars eighty cents to twelve sixty twenty. 207 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: Announced the euro at all our thirteen twenty one. The 208 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: yen one oh nine point seven nine General motors posting 209 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: first quarter profit of two billion dollars, meeting analysts estimates, 210 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: as every region around the globe showed solid results, led 211 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: by a record results in North America and Verising Communications 212 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: adding six d forty thousand new subscribers and meeting analyst 213 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: profit estimates. That's a Bloomberg business flash. Tom and Mike, 214 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: thanks so much. Karen greatly appreciate it. We're gonna rip 215 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: up the script here in honor of the Queen's birthday 216 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: ninety years old. James Travitas was there with Nelson at 217 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: the Falgar. He joins now Admiral Stevinus. I know, Jim, 218 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: it's nice. Nice to have you with us. Of course 219 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: with the Fletcher School as well. There's a modest debate 220 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: in the United Kingdom that is deadly serious, which is submarines. 221 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: Would you brief us on the global submarine defense and offense. 222 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: We have pictures of Russian submarines deployed. I was looking 223 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: for Harrison Ford. I couldn't spot them. And in the 224 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: England this is a serious issue about replacing the Trident 225 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: sub isn't it It is? And actually the guy you 226 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: should have been looking for was Sean o'connory, who played 227 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: the Captain of the Red October. So when you when 228 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: you watch that, are you like throwing popcorn at the 229 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: screen or it's a total popcorn um. But I'll tell 230 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: you what is very serious. You're absolutely correct is the 231 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: debate over Trident because it is hugely expensive for the 232 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: Breads and they feel relatively comfortable that they live under 233 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:57,119 Speaker 1: our nuclear umbrella. So frankly, as a military, US military, 234 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: I'd rather see them spending that money on a carrier 235 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: or better jets to go on the carrier, or even 236 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: enhancing their special forces or their cyber capability. I think 237 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: it's a national pride point to have the nuclear force, 238 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure that's the best use of their funding. Mike, 239 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: the Vanguard's uh I guess proposed is twice as long 240 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: as a Boeing seven. These are These are huge machines 241 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: of war, eighteen thousand tons. They can toss ballistic trajectory 242 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: missile for thousands and thousands of miles. These are very capable, 243 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: very complex, and very expensive. The cost you're suggesting then 244 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: is not worth the what you get out of basically 245 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: having it that you know, the idea that you're a 246 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: part of the nuclear club, and that you can project 247 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: force correct, and I think i'd make the same argument 248 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: about the French nuclear force. These are just huge investments 249 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: that are not necessary. What I want to make clear, though, 250 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: is I'm not advocating not building those submarines and then 251 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: simply taking that defense, spending it, turning it into domestic constituencies. 252 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm simply saying you've got to spend two of your 253 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: g DP on defense, which is the NATO goal. The 254 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: Brits meet it, the French do not. But they should 255 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: be using that money, not on a nuclear force, my opinion, 256 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: but on better conventional capability that would match up with 257 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: US and with NATO. Interesting um news from the campaign front, Uh, 258 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump back out suggesting we should be waterboarding a 259 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: lot of people criticizing him for the interviews he gave 260 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: to The New York Times at Washington Post where he 261 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: betrayed zero knowledge of foreign policy. I'm wondering, Uh, can 262 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: you learn that if you if you want to, in 263 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: the heat of a campaign like this. In other words, 264 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,239 Speaker 1: could the person that people are voting for in November 265 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: be significantly different from the person we're seeing now. I 266 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: think it's unlikely a candidate has to devote such an 267 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: enormous amount of time to the simple mechanics of showing up, 268 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: given the stump speech, doing the interviews, there's very little 269 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: time for, if you will, personal development and growth. But 270 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: we've seen this movie before. Right eight years ago we 271 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: elected a first term senator named Barack Obama who had 272 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: essentially zero foreign policy experience. Uh. I think that it 273 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: is far better to have a candidate who has a 274 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: sense of the world and a real level of foreign 275 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: policy experience. The question is, Mike and Tom, who would 276 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: he bring in as advisors? And I think, um, that's 277 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: what we ought to be focusing on as voters, because 278 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: he's not going to learn this between now and November, 279 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: but he could be telling us more about who's on 280 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: the team, who's given him advice, Who's he going to 281 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: bring in. How distant is Mr Trump's views on your world, 282 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: admiral from the Republican establishment? Is he close? Is he adjacent? 283 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: Are you teaching a tough thingies on Mars or Venus? Well, 284 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm not part of the Republican establishment, 285 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: and I know you know that. I'm I'm a centrist, 286 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm a registered independence. But how far he is at 287 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: great distance? From centrist I would argue sensible views on 288 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: foreign policy, and I'll give you two obvious examples. One 289 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: is the idea of building a wall with Mexico. Listen, 290 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: we don't need to build walls between US and Latin 291 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: American the Caribbean. We need to be in the business 292 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: of building bridges. There's enormous potential down there, and the 293 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: signal that would send would be disastrous for US in 294 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: that entire world, not in Mexico. The second example, you're 295 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to say this is his view 296 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: that we ought to either get out of or diminish 297 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: our leadership role in NATO. That would be a huge mistake. 298 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: That's our strongest pool of allies in the world. They've 299 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: stood with us over and over again in a wide 300 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: variety of campaigns. They don't meet the two percent spending goal, 301 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: but they do spend three billion dollars a year on defense, 302 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: more than more than Russia and China combined. So there's 303 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: two examples of being really out of step with where 304 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: I think sensible centrist foreign policy lies. Um, is there 305 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: a case to be made that though that NATO needs 306 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: to be changed. I think there's always a case for 307 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: any organization, particularly one that's been around for seven years 308 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: and has seen its mission set evolves. UH, to continue 309 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: to improve itself. And I yield to no man in 310 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: my frustration at times with NAT. But you know, so 311 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: much a life is compared to what and if we 312 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: were to simply drop out of NATO and not be 313 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: a leader and not try and change it, make the 314 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: spending on the European side come up a bit, UH, 315 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: do more efficient work in and around the command structure 316 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: in Europe. UH, take a more direct approach to NATO's 317 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: role in Syria. Those are all things I would do. Uh. 318 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: But we're not going to accomplish that by getting out 319 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: of NATO or diminishing our leadership. I have to ask 320 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: you this, Uh. The Russians have been all of a 321 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: sudden buzzing US worships to Russian fighter jets flew within 322 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: thirty ft of the U s s. Donald Cook correct 323 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: this week. Russia's NATO envoy is just on the wires 324 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: now saying that it's our fault. The Russia can't ignore 325 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: a US worship in the Baltic What what would you do? 326 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: I would continue to do exactly what we're doing, which 327 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: is uh, drive ours ships on the high seas. Those 328 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: ships were in international waters. They have every right in 329 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: the world to be there. The idea that we're somehow 330 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: going to feed to the Russians the Baltic as a 331 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: uh and I use this term deliberately, a Soviet lake, 332 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: is absurd. It makes no more sense than seeding the 333 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 1: entire South China Sea to China. We have got to 334 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: continue to operate our aircraft in our ships on the 335 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: high seas, in international waters, in international airspace. There's no 336 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: question that what the Russians are doing is deeply provocative, 337 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: highly dangerous from a military perspective, and I would guess 338 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: is not coming from Alexander Grushkov, the NATO rep It's 339 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: coming from Vladimir Putin. Did you read Patrick O'Brien the 340 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: seventh novel, The Surgeon's Mate, The War in the Baltic. 341 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: Of course I've read all twenty of those. They are 342 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: the greatest books on leadership ever written. But yes, it is. 343 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: The Baltic is the strategic see of Europe. It's not 344 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: the Mediterranean, it's the Baltic. Why is that? We? I mean, 345 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: in the time we've got left one minute, explain why 346 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: the Baltic is so important to our global audience several. 347 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: It's because it is the crossroads of great powers in Europe. 348 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: This is where the United Kingdom, the Russians UH, and 349 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: the Low Countries France UH and Belgium all together. It's Mike, 350 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: this is so good. Russell Kroll is going to speak 351 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: at the Fletcher School. I can see it now. Yeah, please, 352 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: the Sainted One will show up to It will be 353 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: the one panel the Sainted One will listen to. Jeems 354 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: to be sank you so much with a Fledger School, folks. 355 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: I'll put out on social Uh. The wonderful Wikipedia page 356 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: for the surgeons may and is the Animal States. I 357 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: can't say enough about the life where Patrick O'Brien all 358 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: we wanted books. All right, let's uh once again. Note 359 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: that the ECB has announced it has not done anything. 360 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: Did not change the refinancing rate of zero or the 361 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: deposit rate of negative for the forty basis points. So 362 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: now it is up to Mario Draggy in about half 363 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: hour from now to tell us if there's anything else 364 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: we need to know. Ahead of that, we're watching European 365 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: stocks lower. The stock six hundred down by three points