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Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being to Grace's planet.

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Speaker 1: God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for a cameo.

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Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is, you are about to embark

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Speaker 1: on a transcendent experience that can only be described as

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Speaker 1: psychological nudity.

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Speaker 5: This is stux and this is stupidity.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, Jim Toy.

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Speaker 6: Is he and mikey a. We have a problem.

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Speaker 7: We have a young tailor who is trying to impress

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Speaker 7: who I am telling you this is like one of

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Speaker 7: the greatest days of his life because the Knicks finally

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Speaker 7: hired a head coach. He doesn't care who the coach is.

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Speaker 7: He just cares that the Knicks finally have a head

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Speaker 7: coach in place. And he is scheduled. Is real gudy

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Speaker 7: Eras today whom we love, of course, but he is

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Speaker 7: also scheduled after Is he like me and Izzy alone?

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Speaker 7: Are capable of handling the Knicks head coaching higher. I'm

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Speaker 7: a Knicks fan, and yet we have two guys coming

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Speaker 7: on in the span of forty five minutes to break

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Speaker 7: down the Knicks higher.

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Speaker 6: We have a problem, is he? Who who do we have?

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Speaker 3: Who is this Knicks genius that we have coming on?

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Speaker 6: We have Ian Begley and Frank Isola. How about that?

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Speaker 8: I can't really argue with that. Wow, I love that game.

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Speaker 8: I can't really argue with Isola. And actually both of

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Speaker 8: those guys have been around covering Nicks since I was,

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Speaker 8: you know, just out of the journalism womb.

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Speaker 3: So those guys, you know what? Not mad at that?

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Speaker 5: You know how the Knicks have changed since then?

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Speaker 3: You know how the Knicks have changed since then? Is

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Speaker 3: he not at all?

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Speaker 9: They haven't?

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Speaker 2: They have.

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Speaker 3: Not as why I haven't.

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Speaker 8: I haven't talked to Ian Bagley since. And then I

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Speaker 8: was like, wait a second. The Knicks have been the

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Speaker 8: same exact damn team.

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Speaker 7: For twenty five years, so yeah, uh, they're the same

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Speaker 7: exact team as last year, just with a different coach.

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Speaker 5: Be right, So you what do you think, same coach?

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Speaker 3: What do you want to hear from these guys?

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Speaker 8: Taylor, because I'm not sure you're going to necessarily get

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Speaker 8: what you want to hear.

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Speaker 7: Well, hold on, perhaps we should get Taylor's thoughts on

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Speaker 7: the knicks hier of Mike Brown. They fired Tom Thibodeau.

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Speaker 7: He brought them to a place they hadn't been to

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Speaker 7: in twenty five years, back to back fifty win seasons.

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Speaker 7: Very good head coach. The play and I think was

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Speaker 7: to get Jason Kidd. A funny thing happened along the

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Speaker 7: way Cooper Flagg happened. Jason Kidding no longer wanted the job.

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Speaker 7: He wanted to stay in Dallas, and the Knicks called

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Speaker 7: three or four more teams afterwards, who all said, no,

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Speaker 7: I don't care what anyone tells me, they settled on

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Speaker 7: Mike Brown.

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Speaker 6: So, Taylor, your thoughts.

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Speaker 5: Was Mike Brown our first choice?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: Probably not? Was he more? Was he my five choice?

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Speaker 5: He was probably our tenth choice. But we have a coach,

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Speaker 5: and let's just put it into some perspective. He took

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Speaker 5: to the he took the Kings to the playoffs for

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Speaker 5: the first time in like twenty something years. That's that's

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Speaker 5: not the easiest thing to do with with the Kings.

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Speaker 5: And when he was with the Kings, they had the

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Speaker 5: number one offense. They pushed the Warriors to a game seven.

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Speaker 3: Is he.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 5: So please?

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Speaker 6: You just throw it to Izzy. I'm sorry I started there.

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Speaker 7: Let's get an obiased opinion from from Israel gooty Eras,

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Speaker 7: who follows and has covered the NBA his entire life.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, So Mike Brown.

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Speaker 8: Has proven to be great in Northern California where he

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Speaker 8: filled in for Steve Kerr at times when Steve Kerr

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Speaker 8: what I would love to see him do in New

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Speaker 8: Greg Popovic and Phil Jackson, which is the best, you know,

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Speaker 6: Can he do that?

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Speaker 8: I don't know if we've seen that necessarily yet, Like

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Speaker 8: obviously with Sibonis out in Sacramento, that's the type of

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Speaker 3: Him, and he doesn't need to score.

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Speaker 8: Karl Anthony Towns isn't that type of guy, right, Carl

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Speaker 8: Anthony Towns needs the ball to score. So can Mike

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Speaker 8: Brown create that offense that will highlight Jalen Brunson and

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Speaker 3: He probably has the capability of doing that.

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Speaker 8: Karl Anthony Towns might have to look at himself more

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Speaker 8: as a playmaker now, which I don't think he.

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Speaker 3: Would be opposed to.

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Speaker 8: But I think this is how the Knicks went about this, Taylor.

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Speaker 8: They had their list of really guys that they wanted

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Speaker 6: at the top of that list.

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Speaker 8: One hundred percent top of that list because it's New York, Like,

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Speaker 8: the only way you're going to really truly have fans

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Speaker 8: calm down over losing Tom Thibodeau after what he did

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Speaker 8: is either get a huge name or get you know,

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Speaker 8: the best obvious available coach.

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Speaker 3: So they weren't going to get like Ema Udoka away

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Speaker 8: So Jason Kidd big name, been to the finals recently,

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Speaker 8: He would be on on top of that list. But

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Speaker 8: over on the right of the whiteboard is the very

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Speaker 8: short list of guys that you can say, Okay, even

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Speaker 8: if it's on our tenth choice, we can argue for

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Speaker 8: this guy. And that's who Mike Brown is, because think

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Speaker 8: about how he left Sacramento. That was a whole Wait,

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Speaker 8: does dearon Fox not like this guy? Is that why

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Speaker 8: they really fired Mike Brown? Just took them to the playoffs,

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Speaker 8: And it seems like you could say, yeah, that's why,

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Speaker 8: beat Steph Curry, I think it a play in right.

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Speaker 8: Uh So, it definitely is a reasonable head coach. But

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Speaker 8: this was obviously going to be, you know, the tenth

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Speaker 9: I have a question, and I want to start with Izzy,

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Speaker 9: but I want to ask Stu and I want to

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Speaker 9: ask you Taylor too. And it's a really simple question.

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Speaker 9: Is Mike Brown a better coach than Tom Thibodeaux?

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Speaker 3: Man, He's a different is listen.

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Speaker 8: Better?

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Speaker 9: Are they nixed better today than they were when they

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Speaker 9: lost the Eastern Conference finals?

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Speaker 3: I think they can be. Is that an okay answer?

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Speaker 8: They can be if they take the teachings of thumb

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Speaker 8: Tom Thibodeaux and.

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Speaker 7: Still everything they learned from the guy who took up

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Speaker 7: to the Eastern Conference finals. Yeah it was a bounce

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Speaker 7: away from playing in the NBA finals, but yes, go.

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Speaker 8: Ahead, everything you learned about defense and owning it and

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Speaker 8: just being that team. If you can do that whilst

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Speaker 8: learning a new offense and becoming this other team that

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Speaker 8: might be exhausting itself on offense too, because it's a

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Speaker 8: lot more running in Mike Brown's offense than it would

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Speaker 8: be in like a like isolation based offense. So yeah,

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Speaker 8: I think they can be, but that matters like they

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Speaker 8: definitely need I don't know if it's Rick Brunton or whomever,

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Speaker 8: some carryover from the last regime to make sure that

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Speaker 8: they still are a defensive team. Not that Mike Brown

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Speaker 8: can't coach defense, but obviously they had, you know, the

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Speaker 8: makings or the foundation.

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Speaker 3: Of good defense with that team. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: they had the right players.

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Speaker 7: Put it on the ball tailor should Mike Brown's new

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Speaker 7: nickname be tenth choice.

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Speaker 6: To tenth?

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Speaker 8: It's not a bad way to attack that, Like, my

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Speaker 8: fault is somebody who's reputable and respective for me, right

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Speaker 8: right at the.

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Speaker 5: Very worst, If your fallback is a two time coach

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Speaker 5: of the Year, a guy who wins, you know, sixty

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Speaker 6: Coach Lebron, I mean, it's like, not the worst lateral move.

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Speaker 5: If it's a lateral move.

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Speaker 6: It's a lateral move. There's no worse, right, right, he did?

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Speaker 7: I mean is he he did benefit from coaching Lebron.

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Speaker 7: Like when you look at the coaching records, they're basically

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Speaker 7: the same win percentage all that stuff. They're pretty close.

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Speaker 7: I think Mike Brown is slightly ahead of Tom Thibodeaux.

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Speaker 7: But he did have the luxury of coaching Lebron James

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Speaker 9: Crime Lebron James, not forty year old Lebron James out

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Speaker 9: in LA making fifty two whatever million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the idea of him, I think him.

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Speaker 8: Being around the Warriors and Steph Curry and coaching them

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Speaker 8: telling you to be like Steph Curry. I'm just telling

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Speaker 8: lead like him. Here's how he did it. Let's see

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Speaker 8: if we can replicate something close to that. And I

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Speaker 8: think Brunston is probably that type of leader to do that.

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Speaker 8: And you've got his dad there to sort of check

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Speaker 8: him if he ever goes left, and so, yeah, I

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Speaker 8: think it's it could work out. It could work out great.

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Speaker 8: They could stumbled into a fantastic situation here, and for

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Speaker 8: Mike Brown's sake, I hope he does.

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Speaker 3: I hope they did. Is he It's.

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Speaker 6: They fired Tom Thibodeau to get Jason Kidd? Is that fair?

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Speaker 6: That was a plan all along? Do you believe that

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Speaker 6: that was the plan?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 8: I think they fired Tom Thibodeaux with the beginnings of

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Speaker 8: a plan. I don't think they went into the Eastern

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Speaker 8: Conference finals saying, hey, whenever this run ends, we're getting

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Speaker 8: rid of times like I think they were, like, Okay,

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Speaker 8: now we see that Rick Carlisle might be a better coach.

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Speaker 8: Now we see the shortcomings of our team. Let's make

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Speaker 8: a rash decision immediately. Never mind that they were going

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Speaker 8: to change potentially could change you know little tweaks on

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Speaker 8: the roster. Let's just change that coach because they did

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Speaker 8: it so hastily, they did it immediately, and yeah, that

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Speaker 8: was probably so they can make a run and as

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Speaker 8: many of these coaches as they can. But do I

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Speaker 8: think that they had like a singular plan, like, hey,

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Speaker 8: this is what we're doing and we've known this for

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Speaker 8: a while now.

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Speaker 3: No, they just came up with it in the last minute.

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Speaker 6: How do you think Nick fans are going to react

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Speaker 6: to this? Taylor loves it.

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Speaker 5: He's my coach.

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Speaker 3: He's my coach.

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Speaker 10: I'm ready to stand on the table floor exacted because

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Speaker 3: Because why because you never heard of Johnny Brown.

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Speaker 7: If you're going to fire a head coach, don't go

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Speaker 8: But my point on the Knicks fans was they all

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Speaker 3: We know Johnny Bryant.

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Speaker 8: You don't know Johnny Brian he's better.

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Speaker 8: I was like, you, guys don't know what you're talking

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Speaker 3: And uh, he's gonna be happy until they fire him.

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Speaker 3: But hopefully they don't fire coach Brown, all right?

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Speaker 6: Taylor.

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Speaker 7: You have some free agency questions here for for Izzy

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Speaker 6: DeAndre Ayton was signed huh first, and please don't let.

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Speaker 3: That be the first question.

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Speaker 5: Not only do I have agency questions, I've got Izzy.

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Speaker 7: Ian Begley's gonna join us. By the way, just a minute,

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Speaker 7: are we gonna play eat in or E out with him?

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Speaker 5: I think that's the plan.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what else we're gonna do?

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Speaker 5: Talk Nicks, you buzzy, go ahead. Miles Turner makes the

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Speaker 8: Do you ever like know when somebody is gonna lose

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Speaker 8: it's when the Milwaukee Bucks decided, Hey, we're gonna gamble

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Speaker 8: convince Giannis Antotakoupo that we're gonna go three years with

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Speaker 8: that's how we're gonna build a championship roster around you.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get.

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Speaker 3: For is Miles Turner.

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Speaker 8: Like you already had Brook Lopez, who was a big

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Speaker 8: Yes, is Miles Turner gonna be the reason why you

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Speaker 3: When Miles Turner just showed you how shitty he became

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Speaker 6: On the on the end of the cap, we got it.

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Speaker 6: He's shitty, he said.

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Speaker 8: He shortly in those finals, and yeah, you're gonna be

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Speaker 8: like Yannis, Yannis, this is our guy. Come on, like

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Speaker 3: It's just awful. It's terrible. So isn't he losing?

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Speaker 7: Thank you for playing the game, Taylor to present it

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Speaker 7: You're talking to two Jet fans here. You realize that, right,

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Speaker 3: When the Miami Heat signed Josh McRoberts, and he was

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Speaker 8: I was like, now we're losing, go get Leuel Ding

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Speaker 8: and this is a version of Louel Dang.

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Speaker 5: The next question, which was gonna be the first question,

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Speaker 5: to DeAndre Ayton. First, DeAndre Ayton is what Lebron was

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Speaker 5: asking for when he said to Rich Paul, tell them

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Speaker 8: his street got iced over Look, I don't think DeAndre

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Speaker 8: Ayton is ever going to be the number one pick

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Speaker 8: worthy type of guy. He's never going to be like

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Speaker 8: a great defensive player. He's you know, could he be

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Speaker 5: The biggest winner this offseason so far isn't he.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get tea thank you.

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Speaker 6: I was waiting for it. Thanks tell you got to

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Speaker 6: lay out man, I'll remember, come on.

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Speaker 5: The biggest winner this offseason has been the Denver Nuggets,

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Speaker 5: adding Tim Hardaway Junior, Bruce Brown, Jonas Valanciunas and exchanging

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Speaker 8: I think the biggest winners this offseason or the Houston

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Speaker 8: Just that switch MPJ for Cam Johnson, I think is huge,

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Speaker 3: Is gonna be there. And it was really interesting.

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Speaker 8: The Kronky said something to the effect last season that

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Speaker 8: and it just sounded like the most ridiculous thing ever.

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Speaker 3: And they actually traded him for somebody who was an upgrade.

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Speaker 7: That's pretty good, yety, I took a flyer. Speaking of

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Speaker 7: teams that improved in the offseason, I put a one

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Speaker 7: hundred bucks on the Hawks to make it to the

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Speaker 7: NBA Finals plus thirty two hundred?

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Speaker 6: How about that? Am I crazy?

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Speaker 3: Not crazy?

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Speaker 8: I thought that number would be a little bit bigger

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Speaker 8: than third two hundred, But that's a good number. Like,

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Speaker 8: that's a good team if you're gonna say some team's

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Like maybe this is the year Porzis

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Speaker 8: I don't know, but that might be the type of

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Speaker 3: End of the season, like this could even be a team.

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Speaker 8: That buys into trade uh deadline time, and you're looking

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Speaker 8: I think that's a great You know what is it's

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Speaker 8: still thirty two hundred? Because I might get in on that.

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Speaker 7: Uh it's still thirty two hundred, I believe Yeakay, yeah,

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Speaker 7: keep talking?

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Speaker 3: Then so is he? I'm gonna go with is E?

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Speaker 7: I didn't present it correctly. I'm sorry. I should have

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Speaker 7: said is he or isn't he? Am I crazy?

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Speaker 11: Dude?

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Speaker 3: Tierre Is? Yes?

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Speaker 6: What is uh e? What is Begley coming on here?

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Speaker 5: A couple of minutes?

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Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question.

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Speaker 8: Guys, did you guys see that Red Panda.

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Speaker 3: You guys know who Red Panda is? Right, Nope, of.

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Speaker 9: Course Red Panda is you. She absolutely knows who Red

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Speaker 9: Panda is. He just doesn't know who you're talking about

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Speaker 9: at the moment. Is one of the most it's.

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Speaker 8: Not the most iconic halftime performer in NBA history. She's

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Speaker 8: on like an eight foot unicycle and flips bowls from

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Speaker 8: her feet to her head.

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Speaker 3: Come on, Stu, you know this woman.

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Speaker 6: I know Kung Fu Panda, Pablo Sandoval.

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Speaker 8: I mean, no, no, so close. But Red Panda. Look

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Speaker 8: I said, yeah, look top ten disappointed moments in Stu Gott's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, Red Panda is.

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Speaker 9: This actually hurt my heart a little bit that you did.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I know who Red Panda?

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Speaker 3: There it is.

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Speaker 8: When you look at her, you don't think Red Panda,

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Speaker 8: But if you knew that was her nickname, immediately you

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Speaker 3: So Red Panda. She throws plates under her head and now.

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Speaker 8: Like she's in her fifties, okay, doing I think she

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Speaker 3: And she's been doing this for as long.

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Speaker 8: As I've been covering the league, and I started covering

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Speaker 8: two thousand, apparently the other day, at a Commissioner's Cup

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Speaker 3: Off the unicycle and she broke her wrist.

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Speaker 8: I have not looked up the footage because I do

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Speaker 6: She broke her wrist.

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Speaker 8: And I will say there was one time, one time

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Speaker 8: I don't know how many years of this, she has

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Speaker 4: She nails and dangerous If she nails it every single time,

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Speaker 8: I feel like she needed to take a fall and

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Speaker 3: Does she need the wrist when she's just doing all.

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Speaker 6: This like no, right, no, Taylor put it on the pole?

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Speaker 6: Did Red pan to take an intentional spill?

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Speaker 3: Honestly? And look, you're not going to do that at

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Speaker 3: I don't think she played right?

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Speaker 6: No, right, Oh you say right, so you say you're

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Speaker 8: You do it like a soft soft I'm doing air

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Speaker 8: But I think given how you know, obviously she's okay

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Speaker 8: She's in her fifties on a goddamn unicycle, flipping plates

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Speaker 8: you want to remind yourself just how difficult it is.

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Speaker 3: And last thing.

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Speaker 8: Here, I don't know if you guys remember do you

445
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Speaker 8: know who the quick change artist was?

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Speaker 3: Do you remember?

447
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Speaker 8: There was a guy and a girl and they were

448
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Speaker 8: like dancing and then like something would cover the woman

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Speaker 8: and then boom, as soon as.

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Speaker 3: It comes back off her, she's wearing new clothes. Do

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Speaker 3: you guys know quick change?

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Speaker 5: No, this was a halftime person.

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Speaker 3: This was a halftime person, halftime acts two people.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of a he died, like I think it

455
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Speaker 8: was maybe ten years ago, eleven years ago. Red Panda

456
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Speaker 8: is like the lone surviving halftime act. I want to

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Speaker 8: say of my childhood, but my journalism childhood. And this

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Speaker 8: woman cannot be falling off her unicycle. So I've sort

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Speaker 8: of decided that this is the case. She's definitely doing

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Speaker 8: this on purpose. We don't we need Red Panda to be,

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Speaker 8: you know, taking huge risks. He's just doing this to

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Speaker 8: get back into the mainstream. And you're welcome, Red Panda.

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Speaker 8: It's working perfectly.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, we're.

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Speaker 9: Going to pay attention now more. We're gonna pay attention

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Speaker 9: now next time she comes back out of a sudden

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Speaker 9: You're not taking it for granted. You're this is this

468
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Speaker 9: is this is Michael Jordan going to play baseball.

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Speaker 7: This is now when he comes to performing Ron's last

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Speaker 7: home game in l A.

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Speaker 3: You're crazy like she will be the Lebron of halftime

472
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Speaker 3: acts like, look at me, look at this what I've

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Speaker 3: come back from at this age.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the intentional broken wrist to show just how valuable

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Speaker 7: you are, just how dangerous your job is, and just

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Speaker 7: how difficult your job is.

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Speaker 3: Again, I think this is what liout risk.

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Speaker 8: But a broken wrist is easy to recover from when

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Speaker 8: you're not actually using it.

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Speaker 3: Interact?

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Speaker 5: Is he if she's the Michael Jordan of halftime axe,

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Speaker 5: where is the the Simon says guy? Or who is

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Speaker 5: the Simon?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 8: Simon says, guy is moving up? He's like, God, maybe

486
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Speaker 8: Steph Curry. He's that guy who's just like Wow. I

487
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Speaker 8: don't think I want to put him in that top five,

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Speaker 8: but in terms of memorable and like challenging, he might

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Speaker 8: be there.

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Speaker 7: How about the guys who jump off the trampolines and

491
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Speaker 7: dunk those guys?

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Speaker 8: Noah, there's so many have time show for your life?

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Speaker 6: Is he choose one? I mean, oh, it's.

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Speaker 3: Red Panda, I mean quick change.

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Speaker 8: If he was still alive, so halftime show for his life,

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Speaker 8: then yeah, they'd be right there neck and neck debating.

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Speaker 3: But right now it's easily Red Panda for my life.

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Speaker 5: What about the guy with the little dog?

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Speaker 8: Get out of here with that man like I don't

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Speaker 8: like I just don't know what it took to get

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Speaker 8: that dog to that level of obedience, but I just

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Speaker 8: don't like it. I don't like it, And get out

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Speaker 8: here with the contortionists. The guy who fits himself through

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Speaker 8: a toilet seat. Nope, nope, don't need to see that.

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Speaker 8: Give me, give me plate spinners or plate flippers all day.

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Speaker 6: We take intentional falls, all right.

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Speaker 7: Ian Begley is going to because we haven't talked enough

508
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Speaker 7: about the Nick's Hire and Taylor and we don't have

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Speaker 7: Frank is Soola coming.

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Speaker 5: Up after Bactlease?

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Speaker 3: Oh no?

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Speaker 6: Is he staying right where you are?

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Speaker 3: Ian?

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Speaker 6: Or e out next?

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Speaker 11: And Mike Brown has to get to be in very fine,

516
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Speaker 11: that's it, easy task, no big deal.

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Speaker 2: Then if you don't, it's a failures.

518
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Speaker 3: About how are they? How if you're a fan not

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Speaker 3: a journalist.

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Speaker 8: If you're a fan of New York Knicks, how are

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Speaker 8: you convincing yourself?

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Speaker 3: A this is an upgrade.

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Speaker 8: B that Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns can thrive

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Speaker 8: defensively under Mike Brown, and that's see we will rise

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Speaker 8: above the rest of the Eastern Conference. And please don't

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Speaker 8: stop doing what you're doing. As you answered, he's applying,

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Speaker 8: vacup is what he's doing. This is fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if I was with a bunch.

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Speaker 6: Of animals, man, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 2: If I was a fan, I see Taylor looking pretty

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Speaker 2: down there.

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Speaker 5: Thank you in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be convinced.

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Speaker 11: I would Nothing could convince me other than wins and look,

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Speaker 11: even to me, his biggest critic would have to acknowledge

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Speaker 11: what he did and.

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Speaker 2: Uh where he brought the team.

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Speaker 11: And the only thing that would convince me it was

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Speaker 11: an upgrade is if you're in the finals in Jumni.

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Speaker 11: Maybe that's oversimplifying it, but I do think that's the

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Speaker 11: bar that this has to be judged by. And it's

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Speaker 11: not really Mike Brown. To me, it's like Leon Rose

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Speaker 11: because he made the decision. Jim Dolan involved and so

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Speaker 11: there was a collective decision. If you're right, you get

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Speaker 11: to the finals. If you're wrong, you don't.

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Speaker 3: So hmm, sorry, what's the one upgrade that.

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Speaker 2: Did we do? Start? We did start? Right? Okay?

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Speaker 3: Yea, unless you're doing two shows at once right now?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I thought you were getting NBA news like.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I would. I just wanted to make sure

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Speaker 2: because I well, whatever, all.

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Speaker 6: Good, yeah, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 8: All what is in your mind then, like, what was

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Speaker 8: the one thing that's missing that you're like, Okay, this

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Speaker 8: coach will get us there? Because obviously by firing Tom,

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Speaker 8: it wasn't necessarily a personnel thing.

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Speaker 3: It was a coaching thing.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know what I think it was maybe yeah,

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Speaker 11: results base to a degree, but also collaboration between the

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Speaker 11: head coach and the front office with Tom's livideau, you know,

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Speaker 11: playing developing younger players, which I mean I would argue

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Speaker 11: that he did a pretty good job developing some of

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Speaker 11: the younger knicks. And so those are the margins kind

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Speaker 11: of where Thibodeau wasn't kind of operating to satisfaction from

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Speaker 11: a Nick perspective. So you know, maybe your starters are

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Speaker 11: fresher if you're playing them a fewer minutes under Mike Brown.

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Speaker 11: If you open up the rotation to a nine man

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Speaker 11: rotation throughout the year, maybe guys are a little fresher

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Speaker 11: later in the playoffs. Maybe that's something that's something that

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Speaker 11: can keep an eye on, certainly.

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Speaker 2: For me, But I really can't point to like, is

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Speaker 2: he going to.

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Speaker 11: Turn a team that was not a good defensive team

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Speaker 11: into you know, a markedly better defensive team.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think it's it's just kind

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Speaker 2: of patching things up there.

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Speaker 11: The offense is maybe another story, because he showed a

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Speaker 11: lot of creativity I think in Sacramento. And then if

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Speaker 11: the Knicks are able to do what Mike Brown would

580
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Speaker 11: like and get James Barrego as his top assistant out

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Speaker 11: of New Orleans, the offense I think could be could reach.

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Speaker 2: A new level.

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Speaker 11: Even though that wasn't really an issue for the Nicks. Still,

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Speaker 11: I think they could be more efficient, be more powerful

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Speaker 11: if Barrego and Brown are here, you know, given their

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Speaker 11: offensive track record, because you do have the weapons.

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Speaker 7: Ian So the Knicks fire Tom Thibodeau. They have a

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Speaker 7: play and they talk about it, they discussed it. They

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Speaker 7: get rid of a head coach who who got them

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Speaker 7: to a place they hadn't been to in twenty five years.

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Speaker 7: What do you think the original plan was, because there's

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Speaker 7: no way this was it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that when they my read

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Speaker 2: on it is.

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Speaker 11: I don't think there was a decision that was made

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Speaker 11: at any point.

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Speaker 2: Like before these quote unquote exit meetings.

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Speaker 11: You know, they weren't traditional exit meetings, but Tom Thibodeau

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Speaker 11: talked to owner James Dolan, team president Leon Rose, and

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Speaker 11: also players came in and talked, and assistant coaches I believe,

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Speaker 11: came in and talk.

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Speaker 2: I don't think a decision was made before that setting.

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Speaker 11: So I think, on one hand, you should be prepared

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Speaker 11: for that possibility if you're running a pro sports team.

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Speaker 11: But on the other hand, I don't think it was

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Speaker 11: they were sitting there in April saying, we got to

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Speaker 11: we have to go out and get Terry Stotts.

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Speaker 2: That's that's our guy.

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Speaker 11: I don't think there was a guy who they said,

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Speaker 11: this is kind of our the guy that's going to

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Speaker 11: be there at the end for us, and maybe we

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Speaker 11: figure something else over the course of the search.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't the case.

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Speaker 11: It was more so who's available, who can we talk

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Speaker 11: to who's not available, and that's why you saw them

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Speaker 11: reach out to those teams. I think Mike Brown was

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Speaker 11: not the number one option here. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 11: watching this thing to tell you that. But I think

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Speaker 11: with Jason Kidd there was a hope. There was a

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Speaker 11: hope that he could get out of Dallas and come

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Speaker 11: to New York. I think also there was a little

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Speaker 11: bit of a hope with Adoka Chris Finch as well.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, you pivot to the coaches who.

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Speaker 11: Are unemployed but have experience, and then you end up

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Speaker 11: where you end up with Mike Brown.

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Speaker 8: How much was it a situation where it felt like

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Speaker 8: tampted but it was just banging his head against the

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Speaker 8: wall over and over again with that same starting five,

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Speaker 8: even though the numbers weren't really there. And then how

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Speaker 8: much of a position is Mike Brown in to improve that,

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Speaker 8: not necessarily just playing more people, but even changing the

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Speaker 8: roster a little bit as we go forward to a

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Speaker 8: little bit more to his liking.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think what you're talking about, on one hand

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Speaker 11: is he is the starting five, and the idea that

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Speaker 11: if you go back to I think it was January first,

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Speaker 11: to the end of the regular season they were I

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Speaker 11: think being outscored the net rating, and then in the

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Speaker 11: playoffs they got demolished.

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Speaker 2: I think they were being outscored.

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Speaker 11: By fifty points in the postseason before Tom Thibodeaux made

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Speaker 11: the change they did middle of the Pacers series. So

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Speaker 11: maybe it's as simple as being open to making a

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Speaker 11: change earlier and being open to try trying different things

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Speaker 11: earlier on and seeing if there's a different solution there.

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Speaker 11: And Puss will make an argument like he went to

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Speaker 11: Landry Shamman and he went to galant Wright in the postseason,

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Speaker 11: I could see somebody saying, well, why not play those

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Speaker 11: guys earlier in the regular season to see who they

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Speaker 11: fit with, to get them a little bit more comfortable.

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Speaker 2: So I could see that on one hand.

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Speaker 11: On the other hand, look, he won fifty one games,

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Speaker 11: he won back to back seasons of fifty plus games,

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Speaker 11: he went to he won a postseason series three years

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Speaker 11: in a row. Before he came here, the Knicks had

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Speaker 11: won a total of one postseason series in the past

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Speaker 11: previous twenty years.

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Speaker 2: So you can certainly.

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Speaker 11: Quibble and talk about decisions that were made and weren't made,

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Speaker 11: But to me, the bottom line here is like Mike

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Speaker 11: Brown has to win, and he has to win a

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Speaker 11: lot for this decision to make sense.

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Speaker 5: Ian in the postseason, there were a lot of times

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Speaker 5: when either Jalen Brunton or Karl Anthony Towns were out

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Speaker 5: where You're looking around and you're like, where is this

666
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Speaker 5: offense going to come from? It seems like the Knicks

667
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 5: addressed that with Jordan Clarkson and then they add Yabuselli

668
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 5: to play in the front court. How do you see

669
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Speaker 5: those two guys fitting in for this next team next season?

670
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, with the scoring off the bench that

671
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 11: was really really lacking this past season. I think they

672
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Speaker 11: were last in the league on a point per game basis.

673
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Speaker 11: So you needed to address that. And in Clarkson you

674
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Speaker 11: get a professional score. Yeah, Acelly, a guy who played

675
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 11: really well in Philly, scored the ball in Philly, can

676
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 11: play a couple of different positions, and so I think

677
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 11: you addressed that.

678
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: On paper, he did pretty well. Because I thought Gabacelli.

679
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 11: Was gonna, you know, get a deal above that taxpayer

680
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 11: mid level that the Knicks ended up getting him for.

681
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 11: And Denver was right in there at the end on GABSELLI,

682
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 11: uh my understanding is Nicola Jokic he even really wanted denver

683
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 11: Away and Gabaselli.

684
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: He chooses New York, So that seemed like a win

685
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: on paper bolstering that bench.

686
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 11: And then I think they should have enough money here

687
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 11: to get one more veteran in. Assume it's going to be,

688
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 11: you know, a lead guard to back up runs in.

689
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 11: But let's see how this thing on folds. A little

690
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 11: bit more work to be done. But I do think

691
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 11: those first two moves, to me made sense.

692
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 8: What makes somewhat a professional score exactly because Jordan Clarkson

693
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 8: professionally has never shot better than forty six percent.

694
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Speaker 11: He you have to guard him, right, You have to

695
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 11: guard kicking Korea off the dribble. And so you know,

696
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Speaker 11: everybody in the media business is a professional quote unquote

697
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 11: you know some of us.

698
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Speaker 3: You know exactly what you meant.

699
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: But as soon as you said.

700
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Speaker 3: I was like, can anybody that shoots a bunch of

701
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Speaker 3: be professionals? Speaking of professional scores?

702
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 8: Why the hell not on Kevin Durant, Because I think

703
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 8: if you replace Michale Bridges and or Josh Hart and

704
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 8: plug in Kevin Durant and you're talking about Mike Brown

705
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 8: with an offensive mind who you know, might have known

706
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 8: a little thing or two about Kevin Durant, then I

707
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 8: think it would have been a good fit.

708
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: Why not.

709
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: He's certainly plug and play, right. I think I was,

710
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: you know, told, don't worry about that. Even dating back

711
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: to the end of the regular season. Never got a

712
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: clear clear answer on why.

713
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 11: One thing that I could gather was just the hesitancy

714
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 11: to committing that extension. I don't know what the money

715
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 11: would have been, one fifty or whatever it was, three

716
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 11: year extension Durant, I think, you know, being late thirties

717
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 11: at the end of that deal, and look, he's gonna

718
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 11: be able to score the ball until they've taken his

719
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 11: driver's liations away. But you have to worry about committing

720
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 11: that amount of money that late in his career. I

721
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 11: think that was part of it. But yeah, that was

722
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 11: never I know. There are some reports about Knicks kicking

723
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 11: the tires. My understanding is they never made an earnest

724
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 11: attempt here to trade for Durant. Is that gonna look

725
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 11: like a mistake the Rockets take off the Knicks sputter. Yeah,

726
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 11: we're we're gonna look back on that and second guess it.

727
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 11: But I do think committing to him, committing that money

728
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 11: to him, that extension factored in to the next thing.

729
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: Do they actually take your driver's license away as you

730
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: get older? Because this is concerning to me.

731
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Speaker 11: I mean Stu Gotts, I think they probably should have

732
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 11: taken his away five years.

733
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Speaker 3: So depends on what he's doing in the car.

734
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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Tyler, Yeah, when do you put out a

735
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: report that you kind of have an idea of what

736
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 5: the fan base his reaction is going to be to it.

737
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 5: And I feel like you had one of those yesterday

738
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 5: when you reported that the Knicks have checked in with

739
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 5: with Ben Simmons and the what what's been the reaction

740
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 5: from from the fan base on that? And how real

741
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 5: is that connection?

742
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: That?

743
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 5: Uh, that Ben Simmons might come over to New York.

744
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard, but he's been shooting

745
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: threes this offseason.

746
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 11: No the videos come out yet, because that's that's a

747
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 11: staple of the offseason.

748
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: But I would say this, Taylor.

749
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Speaker 11: First off, I'm not I don't intend to play with

750
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 11: anybody's emotions, certainly, never an intent.

751
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: Uh, it is real they have been.

752
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 11: In touch, which is what I reported, He's been in

753
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 11: touch with a few teams, and uh, I think with

754
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 11: the Knicks, you know, part of the thinking is they

755
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 11: have this last spot here veterans minimum. I think you're

756
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 11: gonna look for a ball handler, and you know some

757
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 11: of them are.

758
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: Far off the table.

759
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 11: At Donte ExHAM, according to ESPN's signed with Dallas. I

760
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 11: think Lee last night, and so what are your options?

761
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 11: And Benson is one of those options. I don't know

762
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 11: if they end up landing there that I don't know,

763
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 11: but they have had contact, they have checked in, and

764
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 11: so to me, that's where it sits at the moment.

765
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 11: Let's see what they do with that last five.

766
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 8: And there's been reports or just discussion, sorry Mikey, there's

767
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 8: been reports that there's no trade market or maybe just

768
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 8: discussion there's no trade market for Lebron James. If that

769
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 8: would have been a one year situation, Lebron James to

770
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 8: New York, would that have been something that interested them?

771
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 11: You know, I would say I do know that they

772
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 11: like every other team. I'm sure some people over there

773
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 11: checked in and just wanted to see what was going

774
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 11: on after that risk Pol issued that statement, But so

775
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 11: I just think generally, yeah, everybody would love to trade

776
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 11: for Lebron James. But if you're a contending team like

777
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 11: the Knicks are, and you have to put together fifty

778
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 11: million dollars in salary to say doubt, how can you

779
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 11: do that and then still have enough on the after

780
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 11: the deal to feel like you can compete. Yeah, the

781
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 11: Knicks could send Karl Anthony Towns. I don't know if

782
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 11: that Brooks dollar for dollar, But then how does that

783
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 11: impact your offense? It seems like that's the tough proposition

784
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 11: I think for any contending team that wants to bring

785
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 11: Lebron on. So BI Look, I know you guys would

786
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 11: probably agree with me. I don't think he's gonna be

787
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 11: in LA Opening Night this season, and it's just a

788
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 11: matter of how. But I just wonder if this, because

789
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 11: of the difficulty in trading for him, does this end

790
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 11: up in.

791
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: A buyout situation, as crazy as that sounds.

792
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 11: Where Lebron gets to choose his destination a little bit

793
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 11: more freely, as opposed to a team having to put

794
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 11: together all these assets to get them all.

795
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 9: Right, enough of the easy questions, we got to get

796
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 9: to some of the hard stuff.

797
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 3: Now.

798
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 9: Stu Gots isn't here to play Ian or Ean out,

799
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 9: so I will, I will take over. So I'm gonna

800
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 9: ask you a question if you would use it too.

801
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 9: If you don't agree, it's out, all right, we'll start

802
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 9: with it.

803
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 8: I mean, you need to hear those rules again and.

804
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 3: Complicated, all right?

805
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: Are one of the harder questions being in the pool?

806
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure?

807
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 11: Uh sometimes uh rash guard, but certainly in the pool?

808
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 9: All right?

809
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: Peeing Wait, I'm time out. I didn't hear you. You

810
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: said peeing in the pool? Yeah? Yeah, what you think

811
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: in the pool? Oh? Geeing in the pool? Yeah? Can

812
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: I get a redo?

813
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 12: Finally that I was like, wow, you just what a

814
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 12: confident pool, Pierre, because you're not even concerned that I

815
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 12: might have that special die in it, like once those

816
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 12: things made the market, like never again, never again.

817
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 3: I told you these were hard questions.

818
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I would say this.

819
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 11: I can't say that it hasn't happened in the last

820
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 11: the years. And only because I have young kids trying

821
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 11: to teach them out of swim. You got your eye

822
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 11: on them. Sometimes you just can't get out of the pool.

823
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: You gotta. It's a safety thing.

824
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: So uh not often in p in the.

825
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, peeing in the shower.

826
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: There's a lot of urine based questions today, and.

827
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 9: We always start with the first two.

828
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 5: That's away from your.

829
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: Hu as a married man.

830
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: E out, e out.

831
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Speaker 8: Is that what you're saying or what you're being like

832
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 8: truthful about?

833
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: No, No, that's that's the truth. Okay, you're right.

834
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: You gotta get out of the shower.

835
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 9: Reclining on an airplane in or e out, bee out,

836
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 9: I mean I could fall asleep standing up, honestly, so

837
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 9: I don't need to recline if I'm trying to sleep

838
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 9: on a plane.

839
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 11: And yeah, yeah, I don't think there's anybody should have

840
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 11: an issue with it, but I just don't do it.

841
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: Thank you.

842
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 8: I really don't think you should have an issue with

843
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 8: Like I've been sitting in the seat a million times.

844
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 3: In some of your clients, it's.

845
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 8: Like, okay, that is your right one hundred percent. You

846
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 8: are not making my flight like half a percent. You

847
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 8: are making my flight half a percentage less comfortable. But

848
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 8: it's not that bad. Like, come on, the people that

849
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 8: complain about that drive me nuts.

850
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: Blame the airline, don't blame the person with climbing for seat.

851
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: Spoarding when it's not your group.

852
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: In ory out, the n.

853
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 11: You know twelve twenty years ago and fifteen yeel breaker

854
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 11: e out now more.

855
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 8: Okay, you're not really trying to get there very fast

856
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 8: right at this point. It's just like, I don't care

857
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 8: if I'm the last one in, last one out, especially

858
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 8: if I'm traveling for work.

859
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't bad.

860
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it doesn't matter.

861
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 9: Ketch up on a hot dog.

862
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Speaker 3: D N.

863
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, that.

864
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 8: Was just in Chicago. Taylor backed me up on this.

865
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 8: They hate ketchup on.

866
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 5: A hot dog and they you for the rest of

867
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 5: your life.

868
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 2: I'll give it to you right this mustard.

869
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 8: It's what I hate the most about Chicago. I mean,

870
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 8: gets like it tastes like terrible without ketchupoting.

871
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 9: I'm the police here in Connecticut that that claims that

872
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 9: they invented the hamburger, and they will yell at you

873
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 9: if you ask for ketchup on your hamburg they will

874
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 9: yell it.

875
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 5: Listen, it's my burger. I'm gonna put what I want on.

876
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: It's seriously well, they won't.

877
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: They won't give it to you.

878
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 5: Okay.

879
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 9: Waiting for someone to pull out of a parking spot

880
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 9: when there are plenty of other spaces in the lot

881
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 9: Ian or yeah.

882
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 11: So I'm looking for a spot, and I'm instead of

883
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 11: taking other spots, I'm waiting for somebody to pull out

884
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 11: because it's a market spot.

885
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: Yep, Yes, several other spots available.

886
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: Am I alone in the car or my family?

887
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 3: Let's say, yes, you are alone in your car.

888
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going elsewhere. But if my family's in the car,

889
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: sometimes I don't get to choose what spot to go in.

890
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes have choices, all right? For me?

891
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 8: The shorter distance is a lot more important when you

892
00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 8: got the kids around.

893
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 9: Yes, well, sometimes getting out of the car and getting

894
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 9: back home is the more important question with the little kids.

895
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 8: But all right, last one back in Lebron James or

896
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 8: no head in only good question?

897
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: Not skilled enough to be enough? Back there?

898
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 8: A lot of things like if you have to turn around,

899
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 8: like like actually and turn around. Look, you've got the

900
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 8: kids car seats, you got a bunch of stuff in

901
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 8: the trunk. Maybe it's not really a whole lot to

902
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 8: see back there. Yeah, I'm with you. Just straight head in, all.

903
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 9: Right, last one, then we'll get you out of here.

904
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 9: Lebron James as a player coach ian or ye out.

905
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: He out.

906
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 11: I would like to see it because he can't fire himself,

907
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 11: but he out because I don't think he would.

908
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: Ever do it.

909
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: Okay, I think you would be able to fire yourself.

910
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: I think he would be able to fire himself. Thank

911
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: you in or eye out.

912
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: Thank you fellas. Great to be with you. I'll see

913
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: you soon, happy for