1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we're 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: gonna take a few moments to chat with our friend 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Dana Pirino of Fox News. You all know her. She's 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: got a book that just came out this week. I 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: wish someone had told me the best advice for building 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: a great career and a meaningful life. And perhaps we'll 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: even get her to weigh in on flutes versus fifes 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: and other fascinating conversations today on the show. Dana, thank 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: you so much for being here. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Hey, I thought you were having me on to talk 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: about the NFL draft. 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, that's my data, that's my area of expertise. 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you and I can do a whole segment where 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: we discussed the draft. Because Clay had to tell me 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: that this was even happening, so I had zero idea, 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: but now fully. 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: I love the idea Dana read Sports is one of 18 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: my favorite parts of Fox News. I love the idea 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: of Dana and Buck try to figure out sports related 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: issues like you guys, just with no help, just come 21 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: together and try to determine some sports related conclusion. 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: I got a week. I really loved the I love 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: watching the NFL Draft because I liked watching all the 24 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: people like like in the families and like their excitement. 25 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: I think that's so fun. And live tweeting the draft 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: is some one of my favorite things to do, so 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make sure I'm doing that tonight. Like who 28 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to? Like? Who wouldn't want to live in Arizona? 29 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: That sounds fun? They got cute uniforms too. 30 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: Yes, I'll just tell you I've actually never seen the draft, 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: so I think we've established that Dana's knowledge clay of 32 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: this exceed mind substantially. I've never watched an NFL draft 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 1: in my life, so maybe tonight will be my first time. 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: Dana tell us about about the book a little bit here. 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you have a you've had a huge career. 36 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: You were White House Press secretary under Bush. Now you're 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: at the five Fox doing all this amazing stuff. What's 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: the book telling everybody out there? 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: So it's called I Wish someone had told me the 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: best advice for building a great career and a meaningful life. 41 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: And I've done a book before called everything Will Be Okay. 42 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: And actually I remember you all had just started your 43 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: show together, and when that book came out, you had 44 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: me on and it was such a fun conversation. I 45 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: remember exactly where I was standing and where we did that. 46 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: And that book was really targeted to young women going 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: through their quarter life crisis. This book is post COVID 48 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: and it is not geared just to young women. I 49 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: made it much more broad based. And also because I 50 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: have advanced in years since when I left the White House, 51 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people that I mentored back then are 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 2: still coming to me for advice, and they've become executives, 53 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: moms and dads. They are looking for the next step 54 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: in their life. They're making big career transitions, and so 55 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: I realized I didn't have all the answers myself. I 56 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: interviewed over forty people, many the people here at Fox 57 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: News and like Gutfeld, Harold Ford, Junior, Jesse Waters, Sandra Smith, 58 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: Jimmy Fayla, you name it there in here, but also 59 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: like my college roommate, my husband, and Derek Spentley. That's 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: why I was thinking of I think of Nashville, and 61 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: I mean Clay Travis, Nashville, Dirk Spentley to talk to 62 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: them everything from how to start, how to get your 63 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: foot in the door, how to get a promotion, how 64 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: to be intentional with your time and a work life balance, 65 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: and I know Buck your new dad, and yes, all 66 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: of this is I'm sure you'll be able to write 67 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: a book of advice for dads anytime soon. 68 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: Oh I would, I would love that. But I have 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: to tell you, Dana, as I'm talking to you. It's 70 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: always reassuring when I find out that my wife is 71 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: actually listening to the show, and she texted me and says, 72 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: make sure you tell Dana that I got a lot 73 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: out of her book Everything will Be Okay. So Carrie 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: Sexton is a fan of book one and now will 75 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: be a fan of your most recent book. 76 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: I am sure your wife is so lovely. Well, you 77 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: know I love hearing that. And one thing I did 78 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: find out, guys, is when Everything Will Be Okay came out, 79 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: it was a big success. Everybody loved it, but they 80 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: were younger guys. Especially around here at Fox. We're like, 81 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: what about one for us? And there's been insatiable need 82 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: of young people who they really want to be successful, 83 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: and they're just looking for us to give them the blueprint, 84 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: and we don't have the answers. Of course, one of 85 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: the best things that I've learned and that I could 86 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: pass on is that I really worried away my twenties 87 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: for no reason. I was so trying to plan out 88 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: my life, and everything that happened great in my life 89 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: is not because I planned it. And if you aren't 90 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: educated American, you already won life's great lottery. And so 91 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: all you have to decide is how hard do you 92 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: want to work? 93 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: I think that's so well said, and thanks for coming on, Dana. 94 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: I had a professor at Vanderbilt Law School, Larry Soderquist, 95 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: who has since passed, but he was an incredible business professor. 96 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 3: And his big thing to us when we were in 97 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: law school. And I'm sure there's some kids out there 98 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: that are going to grad school or you're going to 99 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: take the bar exam soon coming up this summer, and 100 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: he said, you are already set. He said, you guys 101 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: have done the hard work of getting into law school. 102 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: He said, the question you have to decide going forward 103 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 3: with your legal careers is how do you want to 104 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: work this. 105 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 4: Law degree? 106 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: He said, But you're never going to be homeless, you're 107 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: never going to be hungry. The big concerns in life 108 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: you have taken care of and you should think about 109 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: that more than you do all of you. And I 110 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: thought that perspective was super important, and I think it 111 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: reflects upon what you said where there are a lot 112 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: of kids out there in their twenties. They get out 113 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: of school, they get out of grad school, they have 114 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: these quarter life crises I had won myself, and they 115 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: wonder what else is out there? And I think this 116 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: is an important lesson that you're trying to teach them, 117 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: is that one you're still going to be trying to 118 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: figure out a lot of things when you're in your thirties, forties, fifties, 119 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: and sixties. Nobody has all the answers, but you're probably 120 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: going to be okay. 121 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And one of my favorite mentors was President Bush, 122 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: and I remember he would talk about the importance of 123 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 2: not being so risk averse, that America was built on 124 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: people willing to take a risk and to be pioneers. 125 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: And I think about Elon Musk right, like he takes 126 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: risks all the time, like landing rockets on chopsticks. But 127 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: because he was able to, he was willing to take 128 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: a risk, you can get great reward. And I remember 129 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: I was really hesitant to start my own business after 130 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: I left the White House because I had a million 131 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: reasons that were stupid really looking back, and the President 132 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: said to me, ask yourself this, what is the worst 133 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: thing that could happen to you if it fails? So 134 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: I sort of hemmed and had for a minute, and 135 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 2: he said, so you're telling me the worst thing that 136 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: could happen to you, an educated American woman who was 137 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: the White House Press secretary, start throwing business. Say it fails, 138 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: and the worst thing you have to do is go 139 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: back and work for another PR firm. That's the worst thing. 140 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: And he said, I'm not persuaded by that. And that's 141 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: really helpful to me. I learned from doctor Samantha Boordman. 142 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: When people are dealing with anxiety, and of course, of 143 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: course we all do, and also we're surrounded by young 144 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: people who have a lot of it, you ask yourself, 145 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 2: what's the worst thing that happened, and what's the best 146 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: thing that could happen? And usually what happens is somewhere 147 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: in the middle, and it can calm you down pretty quickly. 148 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I think there's an old quote from one of 149 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: the great stoics that we suffer more in imagination than reality. 150 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: It might have been Seneca or it's one of them. 151 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: So it's a version. You know, Dane is updating it 152 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: for the twenty first century. But this is very true. 153 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: See Waters when I interviewed him for this book. Jesse 154 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: Waters talks about the Stoics as well in this book. 155 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Well, Jesse Waters and I are apparently brothers from another mother. 156 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: I had no idea fun fact. Jesse doesn't even know this, 157 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: but maybe he was in I think it was like 158 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: an English one oh one class at Trinity College with 159 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: my older brother at one point, to give your sense 160 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: to what a small world it was. Then Mason transferred 161 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: went to a different school. But yes, Jesse and I 162 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: have did give me the tea. Yeah, Jesse and I 163 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: have in Ship's passing. Then Mason assures me he might 164 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: have popped his collar, but he was a very nice guy. 165 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: But yes, we've got Dana Perino with us right now, 166 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: and she's got a new book out which you guys 167 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: should all check out, and her books have been huge 168 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: successes up to this point. So what's you know if 169 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: you're looking now for the people out there who are 170 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: going to be grabbing this book. If there's one thing 171 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: that you want them to really take out of it today, 172 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: or rather one thing that they would read, and you 173 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: hope they could apply to their lives as soon as possible. Dan, 174 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: And what would that be. 175 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: Well, I think we've covered a lot of it, and 176 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: especially what I'm hoping is that when people read this, 177 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: they will realize they don't need to worry as much. 178 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: One of the reasons that you seek out a book 179 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: like this is because you're trying to get some answers 180 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: the things that are bothering you. So I'm hoping that 181 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: that is true. But I would also pass on this advice. 182 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: Most of the mentees that come to see me, they 183 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: are definitely interested in professional guidance, but they also are 184 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: looking for meaningful personal lives. They would love to meet somebody, 185 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: they want to get married, they want to have families, 186 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: and they want to find a work life balance that 187 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: will allow them to have a great, wonderful, meaningful life. 188 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 2: And my experience was unusual. I met my husband an 189 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: airplane twenty eight years ago, and there's a million reasons 190 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: why we might not have met, or that we could 191 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: have talked ourselves out of it. But choosing to be 192 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: loved is not a career limiting decision. It actually made 193 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: all the difference for me. And I'm hoping that young 194 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: people can take that away and realize that investing in 195 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: yourself in a commitment is a great way to enhance 196 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: your life and your career. 197 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: I got a wait, I got a reverse for a second. Here, 198 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: take us into this. This is a this is a 199 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: great story of romance. You met your husband on a plane, Like, 200 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: what was the first move? 201 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 4: Here? 202 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: Did he skill his his peanuts or his Seltzer and 203 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: your lap? 204 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: Like? 205 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: How did he get this going? 206 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 5: Well? 207 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so it was nineteen ninety seven, So let's go 208 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: on the way way back machine. Nobody had phones, nobody 209 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: had air pods. Okay. So I was carrying a book. 210 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: I was working for a congressman. I was coming back 211 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: from washing from Denver, going Denver Chicago, Chicago, DC. And 212 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: I was on an American airline slight. I almost missed 213 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 2: the plane because it was my first time driving out 214 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: to the new Denver International Airport, which might as well 215 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 2: be in Kansas, it's so far away. And so the 216 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: last two people to get on the plane were myself 217 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: and this guy. And I sat down in the window 218 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: seat and he said, would you like me to put 219 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: your bag up above British accent strong, move strong, Yeah, 220 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: the accents. Accents are helpful. No wedding ring handsome. And 221 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: he had a book called The Tailor of Panama by 222 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 2: John McCarey. I said, oh, I said, do you like 223 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: that book? So we started talking about books and for 224 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: two and a half hours. We talked for a long time. 225 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: I remember asking him what do people in Europe think 226 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 2: about Bill Clinton? And he said they think he's a clown. 227 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, wow, we're going to get 228 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: along great. But then I remember looking at the window 229 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: and saying a prayer to God that I know I 230 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: asked you to help me find someone. But he's much 231 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: older than me, he lives in England. My career is 232 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: on the right track. I didn't think I would meet 233 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: somebody on an airplane, but I couldn't eat, sleep, drink, 234 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 2: concentrate anything after I met him, and about six weeks 235 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: later we had our first date when he was back 236 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: in the States in New Orleans, and six months later 237 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: I moved to England. Twenty eight years ago. 238 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: Wow, what was the reaction when you told people I'm 239 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: just kind of curious. Hey, I'm going to move to England. 240 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: I met a guy on an airplane. 241 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so you hit the nail on the head of 242 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: One of the reasons I wrote the book because one 243 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: of the things I worried about in my twenties was 244 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 2: how am I going to get a job, How will 245 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: I succeed? How will I pay my bills? 246 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: Then? 247 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: How am I going to meet somebody? How am I 248 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 2: going to meet? Then? What are people going to think 249 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: about me for wanting to be with this man who 250 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 2: is much older than me lived in England and that 251 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: I'm leaving my job and career to go live in 252 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: England and who knows what's going to happen to me? Yeah, 253 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: And I worried myself to death. And this a woman 254 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: of a family friend that don't give up on this chance. 255 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 5: To be loved? 256 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: And is there something in their data? What one superpower 257 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: that I've learned is to not care what people think 258 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: who don't matter to you, you know. 259 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: But you know what's so interesting is that we have 260 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: to learn this lesson over and over again. It's because 261 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: your parents teach you that when you're young, or maybe 262 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: you learn it in Sunday school or from a teacher 263 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: or from other friends. And all of these young people 264 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: are always thinking about what others are thinking about them 265 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: and how they're being judged. And what I remind them 266 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: is that actually we all just think about ourselves all 267 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: the time. Somebody has time to think about you. 268 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: And by the way, especially in a social media age, 269 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: people are even more obsessed about how they're being perceived 270 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: than they would have been in the past. 271 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: Quick, Ques, wait, can I ask her a question, Jana, 272 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: do you think that? Do you think that? Women? I'm 273 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: putting you on the hot seat a little bit here. 274 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: Everybody loves data. Pirno, everyone's gonna love this book. You're 275 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: on the hot seat. Now. Do women in this era 276 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: care too much about men's height? 277 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: Gosh, you know, I am barely I'm not even quite 278 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: five foot one, So even Felt is a little tall 279 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: to me, just kidding, he is not tall to me. 280 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: The woman charts too much about he? I mean maybe, 281 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: I mean I know that it's sort of it depends, 282 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 2: like I don't you don't see. 283 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: A lot of how tall is your husband, Dana, how 284 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: tall is your husband? Let's just let's just go through. 285 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: This about I would say five to ten. 286 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: Okay, this is like he's like tall, but not you know, 287 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: you didn't date like you're not a five to one 288 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: lady who married a six foot five guy. We've had 289 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: some conversations on the show recently about this. 290 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: He's tall for someone from Scotland. How about that? 291 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: Fair enough? Fair enough? 292 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know if that's just a shot 293 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: at Scottish men. By the way, that you just I 294 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: wouldn't have been tall for someone from Scottish. 295 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: Men are short? Is this true? 296 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 297 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the book. By the way, is fabulous. I 298 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: have met her husband. He is fabulous. Dana has taken 299 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: us out. 300 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: He would probably radio show. 301 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: He is great, he is fantastic. 302 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 3: Well, hey, by the way, you're listening to a guy 303 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: who get canceled at any moment, no idea what might 304 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: happen from one second. 305 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: To the next. 306 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: The book, the book is wish someone one had told 307 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: and Dana Perino go buy it. 308 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 4: You're gonna like it. 309 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: Dana. 310 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: We appreciate the time you do. Fantastic for it. Till 311 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 3: ber we said high, thank you. Same to you, Clay. 312 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: I was struck by something as we're talking to Dana, 313 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: who who it is true? Everybody My wife loves Dana 314 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: everybody loves Dana. Her book is fantastic. I'm sure the 315 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: last book was fantastic. I have a book title for 316 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: you for your next book, because we know the topic. 317 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: I have a title for you. Do you want me 318 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: to tell you the title now or when we come back. 319 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: I want to hear your title when we come back. 320 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: We've got a title for the book, and it's probably 321 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: not going to surprise you, but I'm curious if your 322 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: title is somewhat similar to the title. 323 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: We've got an idea. 324 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: Now that you're telling me this, I feel like it 325 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: could be, but you have just to be clear. Clay 326 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: has not told me the title of his forthcoming book. 327 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: I have a title in mind for him, and I 328 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: think some of you are really going to like it. 329 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: So that's what we call it. Ease in the business. 330 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: Uh And if you switch, is it me or you? 331 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: Who's supposed to know? It's me? It's me? 332 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: Oh, I blew it. 333 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: Sorry, the leaf blowers are throwing you off, buddy, I 334 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: need something. The leaf blowers just track me everywhere. 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But they are the two 383 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: nicest people on the planet. 384 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: Would I would concur they're two of the nicest people 385 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: I've come across in this in this business and just 386 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: in general. But Clay, your book is going to be 387 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: about masculinity in America today. I think your book title 388 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: should be the First Amendment. 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That's US customer service 410 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 3: team Pound two five zero, and you get a free 411 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 3: Samsung Galaxy when you sign up Pound two five zero, 412 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: say Clay and Buck. Welcome back into play and Buck. 413 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: We've got the market doing pretty well today, which I 414 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: think goes to some of the anxiety that the media 415 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: is trying to create about the Trump economy. So that's 416 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: one thing that I think we can at least take 417 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: a moment here and look at. But Clay, you know, 418 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: the Trump there's other negotiations happening, not just on tariffs 419 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: and the economy, but on Russia and Ukraine. Now there's 420 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: some reporting that came out Senator Mark, I'm sorry. Secretary 421 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: of State Marco Rubio has said that the reporting is 422 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: total trash, that they basically saying that they were willing 423 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: to give all kinds of concessions to Russia, and they're 424 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: trying to take a shot at the Trump team that 425 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: is negotiating with Putin. There was some there were some 426 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: major strikes rocket rocket attack against Kiev or Kiev we're 427 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: supposed to say like different ways, right, but keV that 428 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: have killed a number of people at Trump is ticked 429 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: off about this. He has been sounding the well sounding 430 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: not the alarm so much as just letting people know 431 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: that letting Putin know this is unacceptable to him. But 432 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: there's also frustration with the Zelenski side of thing, clay 433 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: because there's reporting that Zelenski does not want to give 434 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: up officially Crimea, which has been under Russian control and 435 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: has been a part of a fully functioned part of 436 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 1: the Russian Federation now for many years before this administration 437 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: even came along. It goes back to the goes back 438 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: to the Obama administration. So here is here is Caroline Levit, 439 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: white House Press secretary, talking about this plate seventeen. 440 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 8: In order to make a good deal, both sides have 441 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 8: to walk away a little bit unhappy, and unfortunately President 442 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 8: Zelensky has been trying to litigate this peace negotiation negotiation 443 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 8: in the press, and that's unacceptable to the president. He 444 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 8: should be closed door negotiations. The President's national security team, 445 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 8: his advisors, has exuded significant time, energy, and effort to 446 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 8: try to bring this war to an end. The American 447 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 8: taxpayer has funded billions of dollars in this effort, and 448 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 8: enough is enough. The President's frustrated. 449 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: His patience is. 450 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 8: Running very thin. He wants to do what's right for 451 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 8: the world. He wants to see peace, he wants to 452 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 8: see the killing stop. But you need both sides of 453 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 8: the war willing to do that, and unfortunately President Zelensky 454 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 8: seems to be moving in the wrong direction. 455 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: It's not looking great for the negotiations right now. Let's 456 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: just say what's going on here, Clay. It's still early, 457 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: but it's looking like this is there's a distance between 458 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: the combatants on what a negotiation would look like, and 459 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: Trump is getting frustrated with both sides. 460 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 4: I think that's right, and here's what we told you. 461 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: This is how this ends. There's gonna be a new 462 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: line drawn. You can argue about it however you want 463 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: to argue about it. I fail to see at this point, 464 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: and I would love to have Zelensky on. I'd love 465 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 3: to have putin on what is the point of continuing 466 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 3: to fight? We essentially have both sides dug in. The 467 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: lines are not moving very much. To the extent that 468 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 3: they are moving, it is a slowly inch by inch, 469 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 3: yard by yard style advancement from Russia. Ukraine is depleted significantly. 470 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: One thing they decided to do buck and I don't 471 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: know that we've talked about it that much on the program, 472 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: but based on the lessons. 473 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 4: Of World War One and World War. 474 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 3: Two, they actually have tried to not take eighteen to 475 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 3: twenty five year old men to fight, because when an 476 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 3: eighteen to twenty five year old man dies, most of 477 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: the time those men have not had kids yet. It's 478 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 3: very sad to think about, but that wiped out entire 479 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 3: generations of population in Europe because so many young men 480 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: who had not become fathers were the first to be drafted. 481 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 3: And Ukraine in some way is balancing that out by 482 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: basically taking men twenty five to forty five, of which. 483 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 4: There are almost none left. And what is the play here? 484 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 3: I really think that media need to be holding Vladimir 485 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 3: Zolensky accountable here and I don't mean because I think 486 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 3: he's the bad guy in any way. I think Russia 487 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: is the aggressor. We all know that. But what is 488 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 3: Zolensky hoping for at this point? What are his strategic 489 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: goals and ambitions? It doesn't seem to me like there 490 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: are any buck I mean, can you even what is 491 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: he trying to get? He's not going to get NATO, 492 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: He's not going to get the return of the border 493 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: that existed prior to Russia's invasion. What are his reachable 494 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: goals at this point, now that tens of thousands, if 495 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 3: not hundreds of thousands of his fellow countrymen are dead. 496 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: I just don't understand what the war's continuing. Well, I 497 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: think that in his mind, their perpetuation of the war 498 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: one means that he stays in power. Right they have 499 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 3: under the Ukrainian constitution, they cannot have elections during a war. 500 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: We've heard this many times. This is why he's declared 501 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: martial law. 502 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: And there's no way that anyone's going to be able 503 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: to take over from him while that's going on. So 504 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: there's that incentive that I think has to be remembered 505 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: as we're talking about what he seeks to have happened here, 506 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: and Clay, I think that there's just it's a little 507 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: bit like the US and Afghanistan, to be honest with you, 508 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: where the idea was, if we just keep this going, 509 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: maybe things will get better. And that was not true 510 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. That was not true. I was in Afghanistan 511 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: in twenty ten. Talk about it a little bit of 512 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: the book, by the way, and. 513 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 3: What is the title of your book? By the way, 514 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: what's the official title? Have you talked or title or 515 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: still title? Not official yet. 516 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: We're still there's a couple of things that are getting 517 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: in place, but it will be It's very It is 518 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: definitely very It's a it's a different vibe than balls. 519 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: This is gonna be very play. And I may have 520 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: books coming out roughly around the same time, and Clay's 521 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: is gonna be like very was. Play's gonna be a 522 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: lot of fun and it's gonna be very kind of 523 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: in mind. Is gonna be like a guy with a 524 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: tweed jacket on and you know, like a pipe pipe. 525 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 4: You got the you've got the what's the elbow pads 526 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: on the tweet jacket two. 527 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: So we're we're going in different directions here. On, so 528 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: that that's good. But look, I think I think that 529 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: what you have with Afghanistan was a plan that was 530 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: never going to get better. But nobody wanted to be 531 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: the one that stopped it. Nobody wanted to be the 532 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: one that said, you know what, everything that came before 533 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: this didn't get us to where we want to be. 534 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: It becomes very deeply psychologically ingrained. Right, well, if we 535 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: just keep fighting, maybe there'll be a better day ahead. 536 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: So why don't we just keep fighting? I think that's 537 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: where Zelenski is on this. And now you could say, rationally, 538 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: in what world? The only one that I can see 539 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: is if the United States and NATO actually get drawn 540 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: into the conflict in some way, which is what we 541 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: are trying to avoid at all costs. 542 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 4: Right. 543 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: But he can't say that publicly, right, He can't say that. 544 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: He can't say, well, if you guys create a protectorate 545 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: of Ukraine against Russia, then we'll get a better deal. 546 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: I don't see how militarily, though, there's any option for 547 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: him other than that that puts him in a better spot. 548 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 3: I agree, and it feels to me like maybe we're 549 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: headed towards some perpetually unresolved conflict almost like exists still 550 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: in North Korea and South Korea where they have the 551 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: de militarized zone. Both sides have substantial facilities on the 552 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: either side of the de militarized zone. But I believe 553 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 3: I'm correct. You probably know off the top of your head, 554 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: we've never had an official peace in Korea, right. They 555 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: just basically have kind of ended the war, but I 556 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: think technically they are still considered to be in conflict. 557 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: There was no Grand Peace Accord that has. 558 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: Been technically in a state of war at whatever is 559 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: the thirty eighth parallel. 560 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 4: So for some part of me thinks that that might 561 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 4: end up being the resolution. In Ukraine. 562 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: I don't think it's ideal, but you have some sort 563 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 3: of security guarantee based on the mineral Rights agreement that 564 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 3: we have discussed, which provides Ukraine some belief that the 565 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 3: United States will help to provide security in addition with 566 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: all the European countries, and then Russia feels like they 567 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: have this territory. Now you know, the real danger to Ukraine, 568 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: and I felt this all along if you look at 569 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 3: the map, is if Russia decides to try and take 570 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 3: away Ukraine's ability to reach the water right there. Basically 571 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: you would landlock them, and they've kind of taken away 572 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 3: a huge percentage of it through crimea and more. 573 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: Yes, well, the geography here matters a whole lot, speaking 574 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: of water and taking it away. We haven't discussed this 575 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: yet on the show, but you may have seen some 576 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: of the headlines between India and Pakistan, two countries that 577 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: have a long history of really hating each other and 578 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: have nuclear weapons pointed at each other, and there was 579 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 1: just a major terrorist attack in the Kashmir is this 580 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: disputed region between India and Pakistan, and there have been 581 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: there's a long hit. We've never really talked about this 582 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: in the show. There's a long history here Kashmiri militants, 583 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: particularly Pakistan likes to train these different terrorist groups that 584 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: operate there in India, and that they've been going at 585 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: it here for a long time, firing artillery at each other. 586 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: They're militaries and in some places this is you're amazed 587 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: that human beings are even up as high as they 588 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: are fighting. I mean, this is like you think it 589 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: would just be mountain goats up there. I mean they 590 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: are way up, you know, eight ten thousand twelve thousand 591 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: feet elevation. They're firing artillery rounds at each other, and 592 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: there is now a the the president of our Prime 593 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: Minister of India, India has come out and said we're 594 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: going to fight and find the terrorists wherever they are are. 595 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: They've cut off water to Pakistan. It's by understanding through 596 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: the Indus River and the entire Pakistani well. A huge 597 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: percentage of the Pakistani workforce is still agriculture based, and 598 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: this is not a country that can afford to have 599 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: a lot of its agriculture cut off. So we're not 600 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: even talking about I just made me think of this clake. 601 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: We're not even really focused on this right now that 602 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: much in the West. But if you're talking about a place, 603 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: it is far more likely. And I hate having to 604 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: say this out loud, but it is true. It is 605 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: far more likely that you would see a major escalation 606 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: and a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan than anything 607 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: going on right now in Russia, in my opinion, between 608 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: the United States and Russia, like these are two countries 609 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: where if one side thinks they got the upper hand 610 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: of the other side tactical nuclear weapons, I think the 611 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: likelihood of that is higher than any feared escalation between 612 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: the United States and Russia with nukes. I think that 613 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: we've had a longstanding, you know, daytent with Russia Soviet 614 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: Union before that, ever, nukes Clay Indian Pakistan. These countries 615 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 1: hate each other. I mean just there's a long standing 616 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: history of these countries are at each other's throats. Their 617 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: entire militaries are basically squared off the border from each 618 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: other between the two countries. So think about it that way. 619 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: And this is why ultimately the Iran decision and North 620 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: Korea and all these other countries, right, I mean, you 621 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: understand why they want nukes, And this is why I'm 622 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: not optimistic unfortunately that we're suddenly going to get a 623 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: deal with Iran where we feel like, oh, you know what, 624 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 3: the world's a safer place. It feels to me like 625 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: they're going to lie about everything having to do with 626 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: their nuclear weapons policy because it makes sense, right logically 627 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: for them to lie and get them. 628 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: Just soever knows. India has told all Pakistani nationals to 629 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: they had twenty four hours to get out of the country, 630 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 1: so they're like, get the bleep out of here. This 631 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: is national pile, this is happening right now. They have 632 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: cut off the waters of the Indus River because they 633 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: have you know, the dams and locks and things. They've 634 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: cut off water which in which Pakistan by treaty, is 635 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: supposed to have access to and needs for its agriculture. 636 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: It's a little you know, if this continued, it would 637 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: cut off it would destroy their ability to feed themselves 638 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: the country. So these are big These are big moves now. 639 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: And Kashmir, I think twenty six people were killed. Twenty 640 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: six India nationals were killed. So there was just a 641 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: mass casualty terror attack in Kashmir. India believes Pakistans, Pakistan 642 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: is behind it. India believes Pakistan's behind it, and India 643 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: is taking really aggressive steps right now. So you know, 644 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: it's just interesting how we all get so focused on 645 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: what's going on in this region or that region. This 646 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: is getting barely a mentioned in most of the US media. 647 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: And if you were asking me, where is the likeliest 648 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: place for a really nasty war to break out where 649 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: both sides have nukes and I think would be willing 650 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: to use them under certain circumstances. It's this part of 651 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: the world right now, and no one's even talking about it, 652 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: so you know, Trump's got is handsful. I think Jade 653 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: Vance was just in India this week, and we're hoping 654 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: that there's going to be a treaty between or a 655 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: tariff rather agreement between the US and India. I think 656 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: there's early Charlie Gasparino was reporting this morning that there 657 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: looks like there's some agreement on that. So, you know, 658 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: multi are a billion plus person country that's going to 659 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: have a better trade relationship with the US. Seems like 660 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: a very So that's on the positive side of things. 661 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: If JD Vance were a Democrat, Usha Vance going to 662 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 3: India would have been a huge story because her family 663 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: is of Indian ancestry. But as is, it got almost 664 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: no attention. Think about how much attention that would have 665 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: gotten otherwise. They almost didn't pay attention to it at all. 666 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 3: I thought that was a cool segment. They have kids, 667 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: three of them that were on the trip with him. 668 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 3: I thought it looked. The coverage that I did see, 669 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: which was limited, I was impressed by. Look, we talked 670 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: all about testosterone, how important it is for so many 671 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 3: men out there if you don't want to end up 672 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: like the Democrats. Did you see the video I don't 673 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: even know if Bucks saw this yet. Did you guys 674 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 3: see the video of the governor of Wisconsin throwing a football? 675 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: It was one of the saddest things that I've ever seen. 676 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: And I have one of the worst golf swings of 677 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: all time. But he threw a football. They cut it, 678 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: and then he's throwing a football to himself and they're 679 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 3: trying to celebrate the fact that the NFL Draft is 680 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: happening in Green Bay, and it was one of the 681 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: least masculine throws I've ever seen in my life. That's 682 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: partly because there are no masculine Democrats. They got Tim 683 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: Wall's spirit fingers. They got Governor Tony Evers in Wisconsin, 684 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 3: who can't even throw a football. If you don't want 685 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 3: to look like that, if you want to have some 686 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: testosterone in your life, you need to go to Chalk 687 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: Chalk dot Com our buddy seat and will hook you up. 688 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: They've got a metal vitality stack proven to increase your 689 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 3: testosterone levels by as much as twenty percent in three 690 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 3: months time. It's all natural. 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We 700 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 7: claim your sanity with Clay and Fun. 701 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 6: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 702 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 6: get your podcasts. 703 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 3: Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate everybody 704 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 3: hanging out with us, uh, Andy and Saint Paul Minnesota. 705 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 3: I Dana Prino said that her husband was tall for 706 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 3: a Scotsman. Is this drue our Scottish men know to 707 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 3: be short? 708 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: Andy? 709 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's actually true. I'm actually only five foot one, 710 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 5: but I am I am anatomically shaped like an actual 711 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 5: human being though. 712 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 3: So so you are a five foot one Scotsman who 713 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: would say that that Dana Perino is right when she 714 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 3: says that men are short in Scotland. And you met 715 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 3: your wife on a Greyhound bus. 716 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 5: Man a grehand bus and floor than nineteen. 717 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 4: Ninety How long was your greyhound bus ride? 718 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 5: So I was traveling from Orlando to Montana. She was 719 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 5: going from Orlando to Chicago. 720 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 4: Hold on, you went Orlando to Montana on a greyhound bus? 721 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 3: Hell? 722 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 5: Yeah? 723 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 4: What did that take? 724 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: Like? 725 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 4: Nine days? 726 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 5: No? I think it was like fifteen sixteen hours or 727 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 5: something like that. 728 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: But it's gonna be way more than hold on, and 729 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 3: let's unless the bus took off like Hogwarts style. It 730 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 3: had to take way more. It had to take way 731 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 3: more than fifteen or sixteen hours to go Orlando to 732 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 3: Montana on a greyhound bus. 733 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 5: I'm just saying it was a long time ago, right, 734 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 5: and it took a long time. 735 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 2: Then. 736 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 5: Poor part is when I stopped and pump to this 737 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 5: check on the bus, I thought, well, I'm going to 738 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 5: go back to Scotland like about a week, right, So 739 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 5: if I don't play the big move, I'm never going 740 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 5: to see it again. So but ten I was end 741 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 5: of the trip. I was like, hey, do you want 742 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 5: to get married to the Scotland at Christmas? 743 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: And he says yeah, sure. 744 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 5: So we get married that year nineteen ninety December twenty eighth, 745 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 5: and we're still married and there'll be a thirty fifth 746 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 5: anniversary this coming Christmas. 747 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: I love this guy, but I need subtitles for this call. Yes, 748 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: think that's amazing. 749 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: Buck Mett his wife on a greyhound bus, proposed to 750 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 3: or after ten hours. That could have gone a lot 751 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 3: worse based on the greyhound buses I've seen