1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Baby shower friends launch a 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: frantic search for a missing mom twenty eight. 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: A Virginia mom and nurse misses her shift. Calls go 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: to voicemail. Friends and family are worried. Concern grows for 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: missing Mamta. Where is Mamta? This woman devoted to her 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: baby girl. 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: She's a new mom and an incredible pediatric nurse, puts 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: herself through school to excel. 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: She's juggling all the place. 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: Keeping all the balls in the air, and then suddenly 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: she doesn't show up for her shift at the hospital. 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: And it is her friends, her coworkers who become alarmed. 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: Then her friends from a baby shower band, together with 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: other friends and even people she's never met, to try 17 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: and find Mamta. 18 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: Can somebody tell me why it took. 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: So long from the time she goes missing till the 20 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: time flyers are posted digitally and she's actually categorized as 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: a missing person. We've lost days and days and days, 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: and this little girl is wondering where is mommy? First 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: of all, who is this person? 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: Listen? 25 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: Newly weds Narash and Mamta Bod settle into married life 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: after Bud joins the army and serves two active tours overseas, 27 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: reportedly maintaining active secret clearance. Meanwhile, Mamta completes college to 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: become a pediatric nurse at Prince William Hospital. The couple 29 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: welcomes their first baby, a little girl. The two decide 30 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: to split the week so when one of them is 31 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: at work, the other is home with their new baby girl. 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 4: This means while new mom Mamta pulls a pediactory shift 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: at Prince William Hospital, Naresh is home and likewise, when 34 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: he's at General Dynamics working it, Mamta has mommy duty. 35 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel to make sense of 36 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: what we are learning right now about Mamta's disappearance and 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: how can we find her? Can we bring her home 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: alive with a baby girl and a big family waiting 39 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: on her? Joining me an investigative reporter from Fox five 40 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: Nana Sancho Bonsu. But first I want to go to 41 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: a friend, a friend of Manta's Nadia Navarro, friend of Mamta. 42 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: Gofund your organizer and the gofum me is help find 43 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: Mamta Nadia again, thank you for being with us. When 44 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: did you realize Mamta was gone? 45 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: August ninth. 46 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 5: I was made aware. I got a call from a 47 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 5: friend I met at Mamta's baby shower August nine. 48 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: Today is August fourteen. 49 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: So you found out she was missing on August nine. Okay, 50 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm already five days in, but it gets worse. It's 51 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: much further than just five days in. Nadia, tell me 52 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: that one more time. Did you who called you? 53 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 5: A friend from the baby shower that I met there? 54 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: Okay? Tell me about the baby shower. Let's start right there. Okay. 55 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 5: It took place last year and they were probably around 56 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 5: one hundred people there. 57 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: It was really big. 58 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: What time do we think she went missing? Well, she 59 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: was last seen alive July thirty one, I understand too, 60 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: An investigated. A reporter of Fox five joining us not 61 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: I same to bon Sou that she was last seeing 62 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: July thirty one, but no one realized she was missing 63 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: until she did not show up for her pediatric nurse ship. 64 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 65 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 6: You're absolutely correct. Police are telling us, Please some NASA's 66 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 6: park tell us that the last time she was seen 67 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 6: was Wednesday, July thirty first at her home in Manassas Park, 68 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 6: and as we've been discussing, according to her coworkers, she 69 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 6: did not show up for her shift on the first 70 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 6: and that's when they got concerned and they called police 71 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 6: and a welfare check was requested. 72 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 7: Okay, Nana, I just had chills go down my whole 73 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 7: self when you say pediatric nurse. I'm just thinking of 74 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 7: all the love, all the dedication, all the long hours 75 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 7: the pediatric nurses in the nick you. 76 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Devoted and saved my children, and now she's gone, and 77 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: who's trying to find her, Who's trying to help her? 78 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they literally saved my twins lives. They saved 79 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: their lives. And from what I hear about her to you, 80 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: Nadia Navarro, this is her friend. She was completely devoted 81 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: to pediatric nursing, which is no small thing. That's a niche, 82 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: that is a specialty. 83 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: And then the miracle she had her own baby. 84 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 8: Girl. 85 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: There is no way in h E double l this 86 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: woman would leave that pediatric unit and more important, her 87 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: own baby. 88 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 5: That's true. 89 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: She would never, she would never do that. Tell me 90 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: about her as a Personnaudia, I. 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 5: Would say, Mamta is an incredibly dedicated person. She worked 92 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 5: while she was studying, and she would study for at 93 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 5: least nine hours a day to take the Enclax exam, 94 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 5: that's the nursing exam. She studied for months and months, 95 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 5: and even when when she had her baby, and when 96 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 5: she was when she was pregnant, up to eight months, 97 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 5: she was still working. 98 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: You know, let me go to Kathleen Murphy joining us, 99 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: a high profile lawyer out of Raleigh at Triangle Divorce 100 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: Lawyers dot com. Kathleen what Not Indvro just said, brings 101 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: back memories. Study, study, study, study, I remember even studying 102 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: in the bathtub in law school. It is constant. When 103 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 1: she said nine hours a day, that's for real. People 104 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: do study that hard, that intensely if they want to succeed, 105 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: if they. 106 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: Care about what they are doing. 107 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: Yes, there's those students that go often have a weekend 108 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: drunk every weekend and kick around. 109 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: Not this girl, No, no, no, no. 110 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: Monta, tell them it's real. People really do study that hard. 111 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: If you look at my law school books, which I 112 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: still have even though they were third hand when I 113 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: bought them, there are watermarks all over them from turning 114 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: the pages on the side of the bathtub. 115 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 9: Well, when I went to law school, Nancy, we didn't 116 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 9: have laptops. I had index cards in shoe boxes and 117 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 9: we would spend eight to ten hours a day. 118 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: That was our job. As this is her job. 119 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 9: Adding into this her nursing career, being a mother, she's 120 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 9: clearly a dedicated and hard working person. You don't become 121 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 9: a nicky nurse without being a very, very dedicated nurse, 122 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 9: you know. 123 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: Back to you, Nadia Navarro, I want to follow up 124 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: on her dedication, what she went through to become a 125 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: pediatric nurse. There is no way she's going to just 126 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: not show up for her shift. 127 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. 128 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 5: I mean being a nurse was her absolute dream and 129 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 5: it's something that she did in India, but she had 130 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 5: to restart the process of getting certified, board certified here 131 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 5: and she was completely committed to it. Nothing was going 132 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 5: to stop her. Every day she was taking notes. If 133 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 5: you went into her room, it was the walls from everywhere. 134 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 5: We're filled with sticky notes everywhere. 135 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: So that day everything goes sideways. 136 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 10: Listen Meliss's alarm go off when new mom Mamta does 137 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 10: not show up for her regular shift at Prince William's. 138 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 10: In fact, it's so out of character Mamtas coworkers began 139 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 10: reaching out to find out what's wrong. Unable to reach her, 140 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 10: the hospital management calls Manassa's Park police, begging for a 141 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 10: welfare check on Mamta and her baby too. 142 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Brian Fitzgibbons joining us along with Nana Saint Iu Boone, 143 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: Sue and friend Nadia Navorro. Brian Fitsgibbons, Director Operations, USPA 144 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: Nationwide Security leads a team of investigators specializing in finding 145 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: missing people. And you can find them at USPA Security. 146 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: I could go on, but I want to get back 147 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: to Mamta. Okay, Brian, thank you for being with us. 148 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: You know what I hate, amongst so many things, when 149 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: women here, You've got Naughtia saying her baby shower friends 150 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: let me know she's missing. When it's scoffed at, when 151 00:08:54,080 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: it's frowned upon, when it's discounted that mom's friends baby 152 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: shower friends as in this case, say something is wrong. 153 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: Why do police? 154 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: God bless them because they are the backbone of every 155 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: case I ever prosecuted. Why did they go, Oh, she'll 156 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: show up, She's probably with her boyfriend. What Okay, My 157 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: head is starting to hurt right here, she's with her boyfriend, 158 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: or she's just having a lay about, or she's having 159 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: me time, or she's gone for a girl's weekend. 160 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: That such be s. Why is this discounted? 161 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: Why did so many days pass before that digital flyer 162 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: went online before she was even reported missing. I'll get 163 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: back to the husband on that in a moment. But 164 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: why is the observation of women friends discounted this way? 165 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: Like we're all hysterical. I actually feel hysterical right now. 166 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: Because nobody's helping Mamta. 167 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: She's helped all of these babies, all of these women 168 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: get through the single most difficult thing in their life 169 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: that they've encountered up to that point. But nobody's helping her. 170 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: Why Why is it us and her baby shower friends 171 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: trying to find her? 172 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 11: It's amazing, Nancy, And time and again we see this 173 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 11: in situations with missing women, that red flags are blown by, 174 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 11: that they're overlooked by either. 175 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 8: Law enforcement or the public. 176 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 11: Now, in this case, I think there is something important 177 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 11: for us to note. Law enforcement listed Momta listed, categorized 178 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 11: her disappearance as involuntary. 179 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 8: Okay, this is important for a couple of reasons. 180 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 11: First and foremost when they categorize her disappearances involuntary. That's 181 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 11: in the NCIC database where all missing cases go. Okay, 182 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 11: this is one of six categorizations, and that involuntary coding 183 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 11: makes up less than one percent of all missing people 184 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 11: in the United States. 185 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 8: So when law enforcement. 186 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 11: Did that, that's a strong indicator to me that they 187 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 11: have more information on the circumstances surrounding her disappearance. 188 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: Okay, that was a lot of words, Brian Fitzgibbons. And 189 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: you know how I like to hear. 190 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: It fast and furious, like a bullet. 191 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: Give it to me and a bullet. 192 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: Can you do that? 193 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 11: No? 194 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: Well, okay, you know what. I'll take your words and 195 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: I'll shoot them right back at you and a bullet. 196 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: Cops says, she's involuntarily missing. What does that mean? It's 197 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: what we've been saying for now, what thirteen minutes. She 198 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: would never have left her child, her baby girl willingly, 199 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: she didn't decide to go to the mall. 200 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: Can you agree with that, Brian? 201 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 8: Absolutely? Absolutely. I think back that I had. 202 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 11: Two children, Nancy, and if my wife was gone for 203 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 11: more than four hours, I'd be calling everybody in the 204 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 11: neighborhood to find where she was. The bottom line is 205 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 11: days and days went by, and this is absolutely a urgent, 206 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 11: urgent matter here. 207 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: Bryan Fitzgimmons, did you just say, the director Operations USPA 208 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: Nationwide Security, if your wife is gone four hours and 209 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: you don't hear from her, you find that odd. 210 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 11: Absolutely, I'm calling everybody in the neighborhood. 211 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 8: Okay, So it's not just me, it's not just you 212 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 8: and Nancy. 213 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: No, Because if my husband is gone that long, I'm 214 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: not like, Ooh, let me read his emails. He's with somebody, 215 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: he's out of the bar. 216 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 2: I don't think that. 217 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: I think things like he's had a wreck, somebody hit 218 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: him over the head of the parking lot and he's 219 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: bleeding out. Those are the kind of things that come 220 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: to my mind. You know what, I'm with you four 221 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: hours and I don't know where he or my children are. 222 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: That's a problem for me. 223 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: So Nadia Navarro joining me friend of Mamta and go 224 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: fund me organizer about help fine Mamta. When you were 225 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: told she did not show up for her shift as 226 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: a pediatric nurse, what did you think? What was your 227 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: immediate thought? 228 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: I thought that was impossible. She would never have missed 229 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: a shift. 230 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 5: She wouldn't. 231 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: Virginia Police in search of missing Mom Mamta last scene 232 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 3: in Manessa's Park? 233 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: Where is missing Mom Manta? Notice we say missing, that 234 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: has a whole meaning to it. When you say, oh, 235 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: they're late for work, that's one thing. When you say 236 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: they're missing, that's a whole another scenario. 237 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: To doctor John. 238 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: Delatory joining me Licensed Psychologists Mediator, It specializes in forensic psychology, 239 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: Doctor Delatory, thank you for being with us. 240 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned. 241 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: Why is it us if five and myself and our 242 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: whole crew searching for mom to her baby shower of friends? 243 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: Why was her disappearance so quickly discounted? Days went by 244 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: before she was officially named as missing. 245 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 12: Well, see, here's from my perspective. I think the police 246 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 12: are trying to catch up, right, and you know the 247 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 12: other guest was describing how she's involuntary. But why did 248 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 12: it take so long? Who says that the last time 249 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 12: she was seen was at July? That was on July thirty? First, 250 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 12: where did the police get that information? Could it have 251 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 12: been possible that she's been missing for a lot longer? 252 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 12: And her disappearance just wasn't actually raised. Who had you 253 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 12: know where? Where was the urgency from her family members 254 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 12: to get this name out there, to say, hey, she's gone, 255 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 12: she's engaging in a behavior that she has no business 256 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 12: engaging in, that she would never do under any circumstances. 257 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 12: Where is the urgency to get this done? 258 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 8: Now? 259 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 12: I can understand people, you know, deal with stressors in 260 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 12: all different kinds of ways. But if your statement is 261 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 12: is that you love her and this person is important 262 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 12: to you, you would anticipate that they would do more 263 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 12: to get a resolution to what is going on. 264 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 8: Joining me. 265 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: Investigative reporter from Fox five Nana Saint to Bonsou Nana 266 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: Delatory brings up a good point like why didn't the 267 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: family raise a red bell of alarm? Well? 268 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: What wait? 269 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: When you are working crazy shifts as a pediatric nurse, 270 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: that can be at night, that can be in the 271 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: mornings when you're raising. 272 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: A child and you're up with the baby all during 273 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: the night. 274 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: You may not check in with mom and dad religiously 275 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: every day. 276 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: Two or three days can pass when you haven't spoken 277 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: to them. Does that happen to me? 278 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: No? 279 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: But does it happen to most people? 280 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: Yes? 281 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: So three four days may have passed without her family 282 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: even realizing she was missing. 283 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 6: You know, Nancy, that's a good question, and that's a 284 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 6: question we've all been asking. Why did it take so long? Fine, 285 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 6: if her husband didn't call immediately, what about her parents? 286 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 6: Does she have family? 287 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: How about her siblings? 288 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 6: But to answer your immediate question, I don't know if 289 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 6: Mamsa has an extended family here. We only heard from 290 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 6: a brother a couple of days ago at a community gathering. 291 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 6: He facetimed her video called in from Nepaul. 292 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: We have to be her voice, along with her friends, 293 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: along with her baby shower friends banding together to try 294 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: to find this missing mom, and with me one of 295 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: those friends, Nadia Navarro, who's spearheading the go FUNDI helped 296 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: find mom to that'sam tam mother, am Ta. Nadia, you 297 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: spoke to her, I guess on weekly every ten day? 298 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: Basis correct? Yes? 299 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 5: And the last time I spoke to her was or 300 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: I heard from her was July twenty eighth. 301 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: July twenty eighth, so we know she was alive. July 302 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight, good gravy, it's August fourteen, so you heard not? 303 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: Oh hey, well I've. 304 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: Got you Nadia tell me about her schedule. 305 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: What kind of shifts was she working at the hospital. 306 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 5: So I know she was actually working part time. She 307 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 5: was working twice a week, and I think they were 308 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 5: normally like twelve hour. 309 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: Shifts, so twelve hours per shift. I know she and 310 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: her husband were passing off who was going to be 311 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: with the baby and who was going to go to work. 312 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: He's apparently an it guru, so speaking of the husband. 313 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: Listen as police pull up to the home, husband Naresh 314 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 4: Bot tells police that he doesn't know where his wife is, 315 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 4: but he isn't concerned, saying she often leaves for two 316 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 4: or three weeks at a time. Bod tells police they 317 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 4: haven't been getting along well and have even talked about divorce, 318 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: even though their families frowned on such talk. Satisfied there's 319 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 4: nothing to worry about, the officers. 320 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: Leave, Okay, what not worried? Not concerned? 321 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: Well, our friends go up in arms when they hear 322 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: this to Nana, saying to Vonsu joining us Fox five 323 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: investigative reporter, you stated that you went to the door 324 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: and knocked on the door, he answered the door. Because 325 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: I've watched him very carefully and of course, I'm just 326 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: a trial lawyer. But I see him trying to like 327 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: walk away from reporters, like, yeah, okay, bye, man. I'd 328 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: be laying on the courthouse steps screaming my head off, 329 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: begging for people to interview me, to help me find 330 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: my husband, don't even mention my twins. But he kind 331 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: of like walks away. He goes, look, I gotta go 332 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: home and take care of the baby. Okay, yeah, I 333 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: can get that part. I can understand that this video 334 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: is from our friends. 335 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 2: At Fox five DC. What did you learn when you 336 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: on the door. 337 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 6: So, as we were approaching the door, we weren't sure 338 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 6: if he was even home because we did hear that 339 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 6: he had spent several hours at the police department on Monday. 340 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 6: So we got to the neighborhood. We did like a 341 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 6: door knock with neighbors. First, we spoke to one neighbor 342 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 6: who said, oh, he's home. We saw him enter, he 343 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 6: went through the garage, so go ahead and knock. 344 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 8: So what do we do? 345 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: We approached the door. 346 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 6: In these situations, you know, you don't know how you 347 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 6: want to enter it. You don't know if he's even 348 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 6: going to open, you don't know what he's going to do. 349 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 6: When he opens, you don't know what you're going to 350 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 6: be standing with. So my photographer and I Jesson decided, 351 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 6: you know what, we're going to roll on the camera. 352 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: We approach the door, I knock. 353 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 6: We stand there for maybe thirty seconds, but he comes out, 354 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 6: opens the storm door, and we just start talking. 355 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: So I'm like, you know, when did she go missing? 356 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 6: Because at this point we're all confused with the timeline. 357 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 6: You know, police are saying she was last seat on 358 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 6: the thirty first. Police are saying they can't the house. 359 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 8: The official report. 360 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 6: Wasn't till August fish. I'm like, let's just ask the 361 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 6: husband when the last time he saw his wife was. 362 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 6: He did not answer that question, but he tells me 363 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 6: on Friday, August second, he called police and police came 364 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 6: to the house. He said something with the reports or 365 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 6: documentation took a while, and then Monday it was officially 366 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 6: documented and the report was official. So we went back 367 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 6: to police a day later and said, hey, her husband 368 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 6: saying that he called if you went, and they said 369 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 6: absolutely not. That has been correct. We went to the 370 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 6: house on Friday because a coworker called for welfare check. Obviously, 371 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 6: I'm finding all of this out after so as I'm 372 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 6: interviewing him, having a conversation with him on Monday, we're 373 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 6: just trying to piece together dates. Anyways, I say, sir, 374 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 6: are you gonna come to this vigil because I'm not 375 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 6: coming to the vigil because the baby is inside and 376 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 6: I have to take care of her. I say any 377 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 6: words that we can just put out to the community, 378 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 6: and he tells me, I just want my wife to 379 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 6: be found positively, positivity, positively. The wording was a little weird, 380 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 6: it was choppy, but we used it. He said he 381 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 6: wants his wife in a positive way, and then he left. 382 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 6: But his demeanor a little shy. Like I said, it 383 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 6: wasn't full sentences. When he was giving us his timeline, 384 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 6: he was a bit all over the place. But I 385 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 6: will tell you, you know, just people don't tend to remember, 386 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 6: like with the first Thursday the second Friday, so he 387 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 6: would go back and forth between Thursday and Friday. 388 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: Nana right now, Yes, I can remember the last time 389 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: I saw my fiancee Keith before he was murdered. 390 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 2: I remember it distinctly. 391 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: It was early morning, around five am on August the sixth. 392 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: I had on my pajamas. He had on a denim shirt. 393 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: He got in his car. He rolled down the driveway 394 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: with my parents home. He took a right turn and 395 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: as he left, he slung his left arm driving with 396 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: his right slung his left arm over the driver's window 397 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: and wave goodbye to me. I remember it to stay. 398 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: I know the time, the location, and the date. 399 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: So I'm having a little problem with you telling me 400 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: that he was quote all over the place regarding the 401 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: last time he saw his wife. And you know what 402 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: wife is enough, But what about the fact this is 403 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: the mother of his child. 404 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 10: Family and friends insist Mamta would never leave her baby. 405 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 10: Following the women's outrage, police follow up with Naresh BoNT. 406 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 10: This time they asked to look around the house inside 407 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 10: and out. After Manassa's police talked to Bot, he decides 408 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 10: he should file a missing person report. 409 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: Argent, a mom of a ten month old baby seemingly 410 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: vanishes from a Virginia town family and desperate search of Mamta. 411 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: And that search is becoming more desperate as every day passes. 412 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: To Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security, could you 413 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: explain it and the way only you can that every 414 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: hour a missing person remains missing. I don't mean a 415 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: mom on a walk about or a mom going from 416 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: me time with her girlfriends. I mean truly, as she 417 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: is categorized by police involuntarily missing. With every hour, the 418 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: statistics of her coming home alive lesson. 419 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 11: Absolutely, the chances of her coming home alive go down 420 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 11: with every hour that passes Nancy. And my question for 421 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 11: Nurash is when was this time that she was gone from? 422 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 11: Multiple weeks at a time, we have Mamta on social 423 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 11: media posting on almost a daily basis videos with their 424 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 11: baby at their house. 425 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 8: Okay, so this is a very concerning case. 426 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 11: Every day that goes by, there's a baby that doesn't 427 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 11: know where a mother is. And we're scratching our heads 428 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 11: here wondering why this timeline is what it is. 429 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: And what about the husband? And let me get this straight. 430 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: Not the same to Botsu joining us Investi report Fox five, 431 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: and again, thank you for that exclusive video you're letting 432 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: us use. What am I hearing that he has had 433 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: to make a note of this active special secret intel 434 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: what does he call it? Active secret clearance with the army? 435 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 2: What? 436 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 3: Nancy? 437 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 6: These are all things we're trying to confirm on our end. 438 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 6: Of course, yes, we've seen his book, we've seen the images, 439 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 6: We've we've spoken to friends just like Nadia who have 440 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 6: shared with us that he did serve at a point 441 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 6: he was deployed in comeback. We're still waiting on confirmation 442 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 6: for the actual details of when he served, what he served, 443 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 6: and what clearances he has. But these are all things 444 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 6: that we're just working to try to confirm, to even 445 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 6: try to get a better idea of. 446 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to find that out anytime. 447 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 4: Listen an it Guru. Momta's husband, rash Bond, is not 448 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: actively searching for his wife, explaining that he has left 449 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 4: to take care of their baby girl. Notably, he also 450 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 4: has not helped to spread her story or her missing 451 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: person post her on social media. 452 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 8: Why. 453 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 4: He claims to have a sensitive job with the US military, 454 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 4: but even given his so called secret clearance, he's uncertain 455 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: exactly when he reported his wife missing. Bod tells Fox 456 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: five he contacted police Friday, August second, but police didn't 457 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: file the report until Monday, August fifth. He then tells 458 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: another outlet he contacted police on August fourth and filed 459 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 4: the missing person to report while other reports say Mamta 460 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 4: wasn't reported missing until August fifth. 461 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: Back out to our guests, let me understand something, Brian 462 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: has Gibbons. The police performed a wellfared check, right, but 463 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: and jump in, Nadia, Nana Dodge delatory, Kathleen, Brian. When 464 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: police first went to the home, it seemed to me 465 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: that the husband explained away her absence and police just 466 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: went away. 467 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 11: Correct, Nancy. It sounds like police accepted what Naresh told 468 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 11: them that Manta typically goes missing now. 469 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 8: Or typically goes away for a week or two at 470 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 8: a time. 471 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 11: Now, this seems to be contrary to what her friends 472 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 11: and family are saying. 473 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that she would just quote go away 474 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: for weeks on end got them in an outrage. And again, 475 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: let me report the husband has not been named a 476 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: suspect in Manta's disappearance. But I want to follow up, Brian, 477 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: was something you detected regarding a chat room an online 478 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: group mom to visited? 479 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 11: Yes, Nancy, and this gives us more concern in this case. 480 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 11: Members of a private Facebook group have come forward and 481 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 11: provided some screenshots of Manta's communications over the last few 482 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 11: months that she was in the process of separating from 483 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 11: her okay, and there were some concerning postsmade in there 484 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 11: and concerning comments that Monta made about not having access 485 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 11: to funds, not having access to a vehicle, not understanding 486 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 11: the different laws around custody, and various threats that were 487 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 11: made to her by Naresh about the custody of their child. 488 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 8: So this adds to the mix of. 489 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 11: That reporting timeline and the time loss in this case 490 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 11: that these are really dire circumstances for Manta. 491 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 3: Days pass before the husband of missing Virginia mom and 492 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: nurse Mamta bond reports are missing to authorities. Where is Mamta? 493 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: We were just speaking to domestic relations expert Kathleen Murphy. Kathleen, 494 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: you were talking about the sometimes explosive scenario when you 495 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: have a baby as additional stress. The baby is up 496 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: all night, both of the parents are working. Now you 497 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: see the mom here Mamta. And I'm gonna I'm looking 498 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: forward to hearing from Nadia Navarro who is one of 499 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: her dear friends going online to an anonymous chat room. 500 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: She doesn't know these people, they don't know her, begging 501 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: for help. Now, I want to circle back to what 502 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier. I mentioned it for a reason that 503 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: stated Feb. Sixteen. He is telling people, the husband that 504 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: he has quote active secret clearance with the army, all right, whatever, 505 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: but he's telling that to his wife too, so in 506 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: her mind he is an it guru. He has secret, 507 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: special secret clearance with the army, with the government. Can 508 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: you imagine and how this adds to her feeling of helplessness. 509 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 9: See it all the time where women are coming into 510 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 9: my office and they tell me these stories from their 511 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 9: husbands and they're scared. They don't know how to make decisions. 512 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 9: Making these decisions to leave their spouse, it's very difficult 513 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 9: in combination with the information that they're getting from their spouse, 514 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 9: it's so dangerous. Nancy and I have really bad feelings 515 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 9: for this mother because I don't believe she's alive at 516 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 9: this point. 517 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: Last scene in the home, I'm going to go to 518 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: Nadia Navorro, Momta's friend and this is the person that 519 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: banded everyone together to start looking for mom to after 520 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: a baby share our friends contact to her and she's fearheaded. 521 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: The gofund me help find Mom. To Emma's and mother 522 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: a Emmason Mother Ta, Nadia, were you privy to any 523 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: of the dynamic between her and her husband. 524 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 5: Absolutely when I lived with them, actually I just lived 525 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 5: with Mamta, and he would call me on my phone 526 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 5: constantly and text me constantly. 527 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: I figured it was Mamta's first time. 528 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 5: In the States and that he was just really worried 529 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 5: about her well being. But it did get very intense 530 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 5: for me as he started to kind of control where 531 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 5: I would go too, and like at one point I 532 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 5: wanted to take Mamka to an Indian store so she 533 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 5: could see all the spices, and it just was about 534 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 5: ten minutes. 535 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: Further than we normally drove. 536 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 5: It was only about twenty minutes then, like total, but 537 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 5: he wouldn't really let her leave the house, like that 538 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 5: was any further than five minutes. And on our way there, 539 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 5: he started calling us frantically, and he started yelling at 540 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 5: me to turn around and that she couldn't go there 541 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 5: and that it was too far away. I thought it 542 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 5: was a lot, but I thought maybe he's just I 543 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 5: can see now in hindsight that it was extremely controlling behavior, 544 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 5: but I was naive and I just thought he was 545 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 5: worried for her. 546 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: Let me understand something. I'm hearing this for the first time. 547 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: Not even Navarro a friend of mantas you stated that 548 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: he would call and text you constantly yes about what he. 549 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 5: Just needed, constant location updates from me. So if we 550 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 5: went anywhere to grab food or to want to study, 551 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 5: he would be like, where exactly are you? 552 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: What are you doing? Who are you with? 553 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 5: And you have to be back in thirty minutes basically. 554 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: To the house. What are you doing? Who are you with? 555 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: How would mom to react to all that? 556 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 5: Oh? She would. 557 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: She actually did very well. She goes, oh, he's just worried. 558 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 5: And it did make me a little worried, but her 559 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 5: reaction would kind of soften it for me. She would say, 560 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 5: it's okay, it's it's normal. 561 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: He's just worried. 562 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,239 Speaker 5: And I was like, this doesn't seem normal. But if 563 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 5: you're saying it's normal and it's a cultural thing, okay, you. 564 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: Know what, I feel sick to my stomach. Doctor John 565 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: Delatory explain. 566 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, it should make you feel sick to your stomach, Nancy, 567 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 12: Because here's the issue. These are the kinds of yellow 568 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 12: flags that people often just kind of push to the side. 569 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 12: This is clear power and control elements that are associated 570 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 12: with domestic abusers, but it's still it's still at the 571 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 12: top of the list. There's a reason why if a 572 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 12: woman goes missing, the first person you look at is 573 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 12: her boyfriend slash husband. 574 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: Guys, let me give you a number the National Domestic 575 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: Violence Hotline eight hundred seven seven two three three repeat 576 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: eight hundred and seven ninety nine seven two three three, 577 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: and let me reiterate the husband has not been named 578 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: a person of interest or a suspect. Tonight, we are 579 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: all about finding Manta. 580 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 3: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a nurse mom of a 581 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: ten month old baby, misses her shift at the hospital. 582 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: Her husband doesn't report her missing for almost a week. 583 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: Where is Mamta? Where is Mamta? 584 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: There is a tip line number seven zero three three 585 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: six one one one three six repeat seven zero three 586 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: three one one three six. She has been classified as 587 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:15,479 Speaker 1: involuntarily missing. Involuntarily missing. To Nadia Navarro, her friend who's 588 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: spearheading the GoFundMe to help the search effort, I'm amazed 589 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: and flabbergasted that it's her baby, shower friends banding together 590 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: to try to find her, creating the flyers, getting it 591 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: out there, getting it on social media. 592 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: Tell me about the efforts to find Mamta. 593 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 5: Well, When I was told that Mamta was missing, I 594 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 5: had a really hard time finding news and confirmation of it. 595 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 2: I googled, I looked everywhere. 596 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 5: And I just couldn't find information at first, until I 597 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 5: went onto Facebook. I had to go onto the specific 598 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 5: Manassas Park police website and that's when I started seeing 599 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 5: what happened. And I finally was able to find some 600 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 5: things on TikTok, but they were only in Nepali, which 601 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 5: is why I started the Facebook group find momped Up. 602 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 5: Kawfel bought so that I could consolidate everything that I 603 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 5: could find on one page in English so that more 604 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 5: people could find out about it. 605 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: Then I made a flyer. 606 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 5: I printed out about five hundred copies and I let 607 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 5: people know that I was going to be handing out 608 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 5: stacks of flyers to post around town. And the first 609 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 5: day I did that, only one person showed up. And 610 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 5: we did our best to go into her neighborhood. 611 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 2: We let her neighbors know. Her neighbors were not even aware. 612 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 5: Her next door neighbors had no idea. I mean, nobody 613 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 5: knew that she was missing, and I wasn't going to 614 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 5: let that. We've also raised money now I've raised over 615 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 5: two thousand dollars to help pay for flyers. We bought 616 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 5: walkie talkies, we bought marking tape for areas that we're 617 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 5: going to search, and whistles and reflective mess. 618 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: To Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security, did you 619 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: hear what not? Endavarro just said. She and the other 620 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: ladies are having to do a GoFundMe to get money 621 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: to make more flyers. Only one person showed up to 622 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 1: help her go search physically search for mam Toa. I mean, 623 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: how wrong is this? Why is this happening to this 624 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: young mom? I mean, think about it. The husband's not 625 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: out there searching for her, the brothers in De Paul, 626 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: I don't where anybody else is. These ladies have banded together. 627 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: She's reported missing late. The neighbors didn't even know what 628 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: was going on. I mean, how pitiful is this that 629 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: Nadia is out there trying to search and one other 630 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: lady shows up to try to find mam Toa. 631 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 11: It's heartbreaking, Nancy, and thank God for these baby shower 632 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 11: friends who have banded together to spread the word, because 633 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 11: I don't think that you would have found out about 634 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 11: this and been. 635 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 8: Able to give this case the attention that it deserves. 636 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and joining me literally at the last minute. 637 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: None is sent to Boone Sue I, investigative reporter of 638 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: Fox five out of DC. I just happened to find 639 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: her online yesterday. I think, gosh, where did I find her? 640 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: Somebody asked me reached out on Twitter, I think it was, 641 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: and I. 642 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: Saw it and then suddenly like got to change every 643 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: saying we've got to do this mom tonight now, and 644 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 2: then we you. 645 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: Know, found you. But it's just so hazard Just can 646 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: you imagine this, Nana, Just one other lady shows up 647 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: and off they go, and they're trying to raise money 648 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 1: to buy whistles. I mean, it's like everyone is letting 649 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: her down, you know, Nancy. I want to say two things. 650 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 6: One, Sonadia, don't ever think the work that you're doing 651 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 6: is taken for granted or no one notices, because it's 652 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 6: through you creating that Facebook page that news outlets and 653 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 6: journalists like myself were able to figure out what was happening, 654 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 6: getting on that Facebook page, making those flyers coming together, 655 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 6: posting those up, those gatherings and vigils, and making those 656 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 6: signs That's what alerted us and prompted us to, for 657 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 6: lack of better words, the severity of the situation. 658 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 3: Again, we would have. 659 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 6: Never known she was a mother, twenty eight years old, 660 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 6: eleven baby, pediastric nurse. We didn't know anything. 661 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 2: We didn't know any. 662 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 6: Of this through the press release. 663 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: That and another thing before I give police too much 664 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: of a hard time about the delay. 665 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: Who am I gonna believe them or the husband? 666 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: All I know is this woman is missing, and if 667 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: it were not for Nadia Navarro and people like naas 668 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: sent to Bon sou, I wouldn't even know about it. 669 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: Please help us find Mamta. Everyone has let her down. 670 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: Don't let it be us two tip line seven zero 671 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: three three six one one one three six. Thank you 672 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: to our guests, and thank you especially for Nadia Navarro 673 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,959 Speaker 1: leading the search for her friend. Thank you for being 674 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: with us, because in cases like this, the only way 675 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: this young mom's powerless ness is known and understood is 676 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: through knowledge. 677 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 7: Nancy Gray signing off, goodbye friend,