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Speaker 3: Time, Episode four fifty eight with Litt. That's such a

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Speaker 3: look like what you think alternative rockers would look like. However,

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Speaker 3: were very grateful after that show, and I should have

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Speaker 3: I don't know how any thoughts.

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Speaker 4: There was one question I wanted to ask, but did

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Speaker 3: going I mean, you know, yeah, going hard. Twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: the Sun album, which includes My Own Worst Enemy. No no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: not not miserable, You make me completely miserable. Kelly clarkson

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: They did it? Got it? Oh that's cool. I haven't

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Speaker 3: It's cool. My Own Worst Enemy has become the anthem

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Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty three twenty twenty four in NHL season.

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Speaker 3: They're on tour litband dot Com Slash Tour Lit Band

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Speaker 3: dot Com Slash Tour. I don't know, man, it was

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Speaker 3: just fun. I hope you like it. Go watch this one.

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Speaker 3: It's maybe a good one to watch too, because you

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Speaker 3: the just all of it. That's all. Let's get to it.

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Speaker 3: You're better that than I am. All right, Lit band

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Speaker 3: official here, they are LIT guys. Good to have you over.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: It's cool because I guess I mean, I've known about

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Speaker 3: an of you guys forever, but my really good friend

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Speaker 1: That's an endorsement.

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Speaker 3: We were getting ready to do our rhyman show and

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that. I would say like the hero,

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Speaker 2: Well, I started coming about close to twenty years ago

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Speaker 5: It was like for us, it was we had wanted

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that love each other and want to help each

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Speaker 3: How old were you two when you started to collaborate

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Speaker 6: And he couldn't couldn't really carry tune, but.

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Speaker 3: Just gonna try and do you feel collins it right?

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Speaker 6: We knew that since we were little kids, shy kid

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Speaker 5: That me on stage has always been and to this day,

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Speaker 3: So you could play a full song. Yeah, so if

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Speaker 2: They're alive. They live here now with us. Our dad

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Speaker 3: You were around music at least? Did he play music

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Speaker 6: No, really, he just spun records.

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Speaker 3: What music was in the house a lot? What did

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Speaker 3: And so Kiss was the top forty station.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so had it.

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Speaker 3: They played everything I rocked, They played the So what

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Speaker 3: shift did your dad do?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember all of them?

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Speaker 3: What was your dad's name? His on air name AJ?

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Speaker 3: So sore A. J. Martin was not his name? Did

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Speaker 3: Like what was that kid?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: It's so crazy.

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Speaker 5: If you met my dad today, you would ask the

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Speaker 5: He was sort of that guy on on the radio.

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Speaker 6: It's just like he's just always overthinking.

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Speaker 5: He used to stutter when he was younger, and when

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Speaker 6: And he was just I remember cause personality.

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Speaker 2: We would call him we were last key kids, you know,

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Speaker 7: Oh well, and then he'd be like hold on one second,

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Speaker 6: Okay, like we know you got it in. Your dad

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Speaker 3: That's funny. So you guys are playing music, your dad's

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Speaker 5: Very supportive parents, Yeah, both of them. I wouldn't say.

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Speaker 5: oh you should, you should take lessons, never pushed into

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Speaker 3: from like twelve thirteen on? Were you close?

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Speaker 1: Really close?

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Speaker 6: Just the two of us always?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just did everything together, like concerts and you know,

445
00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 5: then the band thing.

446
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 6: It's it's crazy still this this many years later.

447
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 3: Who are your favorite artists growing up?

448
00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,360
Speaker 6: Man, it's the influences run the gamut so far.

449
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,960
Speaker 5: Like I would say, everybody from Iron Maiden, you know,

450
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 5: some of the metal stuff.

451
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,440
Speaker 6: Elvis Costello is a big, big influence.

452
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,520
Speaker 5: As we got a little older and lyrics became really

453
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 5: important in songwriting, The Eagles, you know, bands like that.

454
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,680
Speaker 3: Who do you think you've seen the most in concerts?

455
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 2: Jeremy, I've seen the Eagles probably five times on this

456
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:48,919
Speaker 2: last go round.

457
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 3: Just on the last core.

458
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen iron made. Many said, I was like,

459
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 2: are we were metal kids when we were teenagers, like

460
00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 2: early teenagers. And then man, I would say that I'm

461
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 2: at the point now where when there's somebody playing, I'll

462
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 2: just I pull my credit card out and I buy

463
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,439
Speaker 2: great tickets, and I buy the all the extra stuff,

464
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 2: and I go to the merch and I want the

465
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 2: full concert experience now because so many of our heroes are,

466
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 2: you know, either retiring or falling out, you know, and

467
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,959
Speaker 2: it's kind of like, I've just finally come to this

468
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,239
Speaker 2: thing where we go.

469
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 1: I'll get on an airplane, go travel, go see somebody play.

470
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 3: That's cool.

471
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 5: But Adobie Brothers, like our mom was like a big

472
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,160
Speaker 5: like Michael McDonald, all those sort of yacht rock stuff,

473
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 5: you know, but we left out. I would say real

474
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 5: quick that before that was our grandfather was a big

475
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 5: band jazz guys. So as far as instrument goes, he

476
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 5: was always we were little, you know, we're real little.

477
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 6: We'd stay over there on.

478
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 5: Weekends our parents were still young enough to go out

479
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 5: a lot, and and we would just he would just

480
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 5: sing standards and play piano.

481
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 6: We just always thought that was so cool. So we

482
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 6: still have a lot of love for that.

483
00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 3: Touring anywhere versus Nashville touring is so different, and I

484
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 3: if I'm doing stand up, I'll definitely tour like Nashville

485
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 3: artists tour. I'll do Friday Saturdays, come back Sunday. Sometimes

486
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 3: do Thursday Friday Saturday. But I would just imagine you

487
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 3: guys would get in a bus or a van and

488
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 3: just be gone, like there's no two or three days

489
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 3: to come home, like three or four months, right, I mean,

490
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 3: is that mostly how you guys toured when you were

491
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 3: coming up?

492
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, until the kids were born early on, I would

493
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 2: say we probably did. We probably did three hundred shows

494
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 2: in ninety nine, probably did, probably did another three hundred

495
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 2: and two thousand and then and then we wrote the

496
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: Atomic Record, and then like kids and marriages and things

497
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 2: started happening, and then we kind of say, hey, you know,

498
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: and we thought like we were cutting it.

499
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: We were like no more than two hundred this year,

500
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, but we.

501
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 2: Would we would leave home, and you know, AJ and

502
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 2: I both it's funny we talk about it now. I

503
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: don't know that we talked about it much then, but

504
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: just the anxiety that we would feel we were loving

505
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 2: what we were doing but we would look at these

506
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 2: you know, before the head Master tour and all that stuff.

507
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 2: We would just have these books and we would see schedules,

508
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: and you know, you're out on the road in March

509
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: and you're looking at what's happening next February and and

510
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 2: and every day you're just getting further and further from home.

511
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: And then you then you stop somewhere, and then you

512
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: go to Europe, you know, or then you go get

513
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: back and then you go to Japan, or you go somewhere.

514
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: You just never getting towards the house.

515
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 3: Did you ever not have a house? Because if you

516
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 3: were going to be gone a long time, maybe it's

517
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: a transition. You're like, you know what, I don't need

518
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 3: to be by a place until I come back.

519
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 6: We didn't.

520
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were gone, like I would say, a place

521
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 5: in the sun record our first like commercial or dabbling,

522
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 5: you know, radio and doing all that stuff. But we

523
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 5: left the house and didn't come home for literally about

524
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 5: two years.

525
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: So why haven't have a house?

526
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 6: Right? We did it. Yeah, we just we.

527
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 5: Had like I think you might have an apartment to

528
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 5: come home to the apartment, yeah, and yeah, I think

529
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 5: maybe you know, we had like a couple of days

530
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 5: off home. I think I rented a guest house just

531
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 5: so I would have something, you know.

532
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 3: At least a route to feel like you had a

533
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: root of some sort of route.

534
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we rent cars too. We'd come home, we

535
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 5: just rent like, you know, expeditions. We thought that was

536
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 5: when SUVs just came out. We're like, oh, we're gonna

537
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 5: rent ance car.

538
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

539
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 5: I feel like at least we had some accomplishment, you know.

540
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 5: And yeah, it was trippy times.

541
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: Did it feel like.

542
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 3: When you would come home, did it feel odd to

543
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: not be on the road because you had grown accustomed

544
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 3: to that road lifestyle? Like Willie Nelson stays on his

545
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 3: bus a lot on his property because that's he's on

546
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 3: the road so much. At times that bus feels like home.

547
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 3: Did that kind of flip up happen a bit where

548
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 3: you're home for a few days you're like, man, this

549
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: feels totally bizarre.

550
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: Hard the first couple of nights I always found it

551
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: was the weirdest thing. We'd finally be home, and inevitably,

552
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: that first night home, we'd wind up at a club

553
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: or at a concert or somewhere, and it was like

554
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: we're familiar, you know, It's kind of like I can

555
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: remember like having just regular menial jobs growing up, you know,

556
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 2: and and you know, so it was somebody's day off,

557
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: but they'd still show up at work and like pop

558
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 2: in because they just don't. You just don't know what

559
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: would else to do with yourself, you know, because.

560
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,479
Speaker 1: You're just so programmed, like I got to be here

561
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: or be there.

562
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: But a little different now, I think we've we've embraced

563
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: the Nashville touring schedule, and when we come home, we're like.

564
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 5: I mean, you you do a lot of road stuff too,

565
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 5: so I'm sure you. I don't know if if you're

566
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 5: the same way a lot of guys I talk to

567
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 5: you are, like your your suitcase or carry on bag

568
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 5: will stay somewhat packed for a little too long, or

569
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 5: like I still say, I live.

570
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 6: Out of a tolltry bag. You know, I keep I keep.

571
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 3: All my stuff, and I keep my basics underwear socks,

572
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: Like if those don't get used on the trip, they

573
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 3: stay in the bag. Yeah, because I know I'm about

574
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 3: to reload them again anyway, exactly. And so if I'm

575
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: gonna need four or five underwear socks, those always stay

576
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: cleaning and in the bag. Because I mean I have to.

577
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: I'm probably on the road, I mean twenty weekends, which

578
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: is a significant amount when you have another full time job.

579
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 3: And you also get really good at traveling, right, you

580
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 3: get really good at packing. You get really good, but

581
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: it's something you really don't want to be good at

582
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 3: because it kind of sucks to be gone. Because now

583
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 3: I have a house I like, Yeah, growing When I

584
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,239
Speaker 3: first to do it, I didn't ever want to. This

585
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: is like, I don't I don't want to really want

586
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 3: to be home anyway, This is totally But now that

587
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: I have a house that I like and like, I

588
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: have a wife and stuff, so it's like, man, I'd

589
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: like to be home. And that's what I think about

590
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: a lot.

591
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 8: Hang tight, The Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow,

592
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 8: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

593
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: When did you two start to play together?

594
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 6: Man? Like eighty eight or something. I mean, we're price

595
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 6: sixteen and eighty sixteen.

596
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: And did the band? Did both of your bands not

597
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: work out? Or did one of your bands not work

598
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 3: out and the other one go over to play with

599
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: the other.

600
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 6: One I had.

601
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: I was kind of like the you know, I was

602
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: the kid that like was too and I dropped out

603
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: of high school because I was playing in bars two

604
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: or three nights a week and then rehearsing and all that.

605
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: I was showing up to school just with two or

606
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: three hours sleep. I finally was like, I'm already kind

607
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: of doing what I want to be doing. And of course,

608
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: back then, you know, I thought I was gonna a

609
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: record deal by the time I was eighteen and all

610
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: that stuff. So, but I was in a band with

611
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: guys in their twenties and I was sixteen seventeen, and

612
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 2: I was, you know, the kid, but I was just

613
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: observing and learning. And then he was jamming with the

614
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: guys from our band and they were getting better, and

615
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: I just felt like, hey, you know what I want

616
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: to Let's let's start this. Let's really do this, and

617
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: like let's let's be a band together and all that.

618
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: So it was kind of an within you, an announced thing,

619
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: like you're doing this these older guys. It wasn't forever,

620
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: because that wasn't your plan to be with them forever.

621
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: And you were just starting. And so you guys said,

622
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: let's just start this together. And what did you call?

623
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: Were you just a duo? How'd you find the other guys?

624
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: From from the school. Yeah, yeah, from school.

625
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 5: Really, we haven't he Actually, I think I think you

626
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 5: booked our first couple of gigs.

627
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: What was your name did you have? What was your

628
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 3: first name? You ever had?

629
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 6: The band name Razzle?

630
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 3: And how long was Razzle existent?

631
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 5: We're a band for a good while, I would say

632
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 5: a few years.

633
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 6: What did that?

634
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 3: And did did Razzle fizzle or change the name?

635
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 5: We actually we we just flipped the script a couple

636
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 5: of times because we were in a band together so

637
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 5: long and we were so young when it started that

638
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 5: we're you know, literally like went through puberty in this band.

639
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 6: So it's like, oh, well, Razzle's too sparkly and cute

640
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 6: for now. We're men, you know.

641
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: So we changed our name the first Uh, we changed

642
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 5: our name the first time, the Stain, So.

643
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: I mean there's a big difference in Razzle and Stain, right.

644
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

645
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like we're now men, but we also smelly

646
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: armpits and we might punch in the face, yeah, you know,

647
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: and it did.

648
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 6: The music kind of shifted and it got pretty heavy.

649
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 3: Did you get any any looks at all while being

650
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: Razzle or Stain? Like from let's do a showcase or

651
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 3: so and so's watching the band. What in those times

652
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: did you get any looks?

653
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 2: We did well because the thing with Razzle is we

654
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: got pretty popular in southern in Orange, there was nowhere

655
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: to play in Orange County as high school kids, and

656
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: so we have to go to La. So we played

657
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: the Troubadour, the Whiskey, the Roxy, all those famous clubs

658
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: because they were all ages. And so we would promote

659
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: and we would bring, you know, one hundred kids from

660
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 2: our high school and make enough of an impact that

661
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: people started coming. But we got to the point where

662
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: we would sell out the Whiskey, sell out the Troubadour,

663
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: and and people knew who we were. And when we

664
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: when we sort of said, hey, you know, this isn't

665
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: really what we want to keep doing, and we went.

666
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: So we we took about six months off and then

667
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: came back out as state and we didn't use any

668
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 2: of our contacts. So we started completely from scratch and

669
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: we're playing like random places on Tuesday night, first slot.

670
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: You know, just we built it back up.

671
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: Why was that important to do it that way and

672
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: not use contacts and not use the relationships you already used.

673
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: I think we just didn't want any preconceived ideas of

674
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: what we were going to be.

675
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 5: You know, we wanted to shed shed the skin of

676
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 5: what it was in it.

677
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 6: Like he said it.

678
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 5: We had built it up to a point where like

679
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 5: just on the verge, you know, like we had some interest,

680
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: there was eyes and management and all kind of stuff.

681
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 5: Then we were just like, this is going to be

682
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 5: hard to sustain because we're already outgrowing it and we

683
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 5: felt it happening. So we're like, we need to sort

684
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 5: of hit reset. And that was a tough thing to

685
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 5: do after building it.

686
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: When Stain exists, what was that music? Like, how many

687
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: of you guys wanted the band then the same guys? Yeah,

688
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: And so what was the different? Was it tone? Was

689
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: it instruments?

690
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 5: Well, the first Lit record is that it was That

691
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 5: album was actually we were we were staying when we

692
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 5: had all those songs and the first record was was

693
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 5: going to be called Lit.

694
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: So what constituted the change from Stain to Lift or

695
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: was it stained?

696
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 6: No, not different.

697
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 5: But the guy the band stained that people learned to

698
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 5: know sure got sued by the same guy that sued us,

699
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 5: and they ended up just overcoming the you know.

700
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: So the own stain. It was like the green jello,

701
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: green jelly type thing.

702
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 6: Weird.

703
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: It was a weird thing.

704
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was asking for pieces of merch rights and

705
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: different goofy stuff. Some guys, some random guy in Ohio,

706
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

707
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 5: He was a journalist who it wasn't even like his

708
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 5: full time day. He wrote for a thrasher magazine. I

709
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 5: think one of those.

710
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: So when you decide to go to lit, which it's

711
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 3: funny how that became like a popular phrase saying twenty

712
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: years later, that's kind of funny itself. But what did

713
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: you can vote on lit? Was it one of the

714
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: many that you thought about? Why Lit? At the time,

715
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: it was always it was.

716
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 5: I mean, it was agreed on as an album title,

717
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 5: so we already knew we love that. It represented what

718
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 5: our band, the feeling that we had.

719
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 6: And you know, live it was. It was an energy.

720
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 6: We were lit.

721
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 5: And that funny because back then people knew lit as

722
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 5: like you're lit, like you're hired. You know, sure, it's

723
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 5: a party word, but for us, it was an energ

724
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 5: g in a room. It was like, this is a

725
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 5: bomb about to go off.

726
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: As funny is now the album it's it's a it's

727
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: an album that you named after yourself. It wasn't at first.

728
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: At first it was just you, we're gonna name it Lit,

729
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: but then it turned into you know, an album, what

730
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: do they call that? A self self titled album? And

731
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: now is a self titled album when it came out.

732
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 6: It's so hard to name your band.

733
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 5: I mean, it's all the names are used that and

734
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 5: I feel bad for bands that are trying to name

735
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 5: their bands nowadays.

736
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 6: It's like you got to come up with something.

737
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: People a lot what it meant back then and now

738
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: it's become such a commonly used tournament. And another funny

739
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: word that is pop off. There is another word that

740
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: got popular.

741
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: Wife is like pop off off. If I do something

742
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: pop off, pop off.

743
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 6: The would pop offs?

744
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the band LIT people now that can show

745
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: them your idea and they go pop off.

746
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's a cool name. No, well it did used

747
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: to be.

748
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 6: I mean when we were little.

749
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: It's been twenty five years since my ow Worst Enemy.

750
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: I did not know that. It feels like it feels

751
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: like fifty years but also like three years at the

752
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: same time. Totally like that's song. Was it in a

753
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: was it in a movie first? Or was it just

754
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: a straight radio single that they just put out as itself.

755
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: Did it then exist in every movie after that?

756
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 6: Yeah?

757
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: It was a quickly yeah okay, because for a while

758
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: it was in everything and then like five years ago

759
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: it started popping up in everything again, which is really cool,

760
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: cool life of a song to have. So was that

761
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: the first single from Lit, my own worst enemy first?

762
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: The first that was the first song that went to

763
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: radio with us? So the album that was called you

764
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: know Lit whatever that was before A Place in the

765
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: Sun got it. So A Place in the Sun was

766
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: our first major label record. Enemy was on that.

767
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 5: We might have got a little bit of like college

768
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 5: radio love on the album before A Place in the Sun,

769
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 5: but yeah, I was it was minor.

770
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 6: It was like it was building block.

771
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: So LIT the record still stayed the name Lit. It

772
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: was self titled.

773
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: Right at that point we changed it to Tripping the

774
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: Light Fantastic.

775
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: Yep, Okay, that's a lot different than Lit. And yeah,

776
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: so is that the one though that was heard that

777
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: got you guys the big looks that then created A

778
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: Place in the Sun? Or was it all the music

779
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: from A Place in the Sun that somebody heard and

780
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: that really was it?

781
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was the new batch of songs, and so

782
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 6: who here's those?

783
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: How does that work?

784
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: We had a manager and we we were shopping and

785
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: just getting turned down by everybody. Even my unerstentiment got

786
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: turned down by everybody, including our CIA, who ended up

787
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: signing us.

788
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: They turned it down the first time.

789
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: What with what reason? Or did they not even give one?

790
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: All you got back was in.

791
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: The I mean back then they would just say, we

792
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: don't hear a hit, we don't hear a single or whatever.

793
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: And two of the four songs on that demo that

794
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: everyone passed on ended up being huge hits.

795
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: So who heard it? As it later? Was it somebody

796
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: different that worked with the radio guy at RCAA Records

797
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: heard it? And at the time what was on the

798
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: radio was it? Was it other rock stuff or what?

799
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: Because my years get blittery at this point, was that

800
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: sound a lot different or was that sound just growth

801
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: of what was already starting to be popular because it

802
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 3: was after the nineties grunge stuff.

803
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: Yep, it was a lot different. At the time.

804
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: It was really mixed up and you know, wait, like

805
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 2: Blink was getting big around the same time. We would

806
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: tour together like a warp tour and all that we

807
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: were both kind of bubbling over. We were sort of

808
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: the first I guess alternative rock band to start kicking

809
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: doors open at like pop radio.

810
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: Was it boy band time?

811
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: But then that was pretty huge then too.

812
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but on alternative radio and rock radio, it was

813
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, it was creed and corn

814
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: or chili peppers, biscuit, biscuit corn, those guys, Limp biscuit

815
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: was coming up.

816
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 5: Moby Oh yeah, Moby dang mob in a long time.

817
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 5: And I mean that's when M and M was like

818
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 5: an alternative.

819
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know why because it was white, yeah, crazy,

820
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 3: I mean so and I worked in pop radio forever

821
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: worked in alternative radio. So did you guys get was

822
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: say service to alternative radio first? Were they like, you're

823
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: a rock band, we're taking the rock band to the

824
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 3: rock stations. Or were they going this is so universal,

825
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: like we believe we're going to pop. Where did that go?

826
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 6: Well, pop wasn't really messing with a lot of rock.

827
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: So it wasn't so it killed it at rock first,

828
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: alternative Before.

829
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of went to pop because it was

830
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: so big and it didn't have anywhere else to go.

831
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: But at first it was it was alternative rock and

832
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: like whatever they called the other one active rock.

833
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: Sure, it was all rock at first, and so you

834
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 3: would be on those festivals. Did you guys ever play?

835
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: You're right?

836
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 6: You good?

837
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 3: You know I've got Oh no, you're good, You're good.

838
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: Even if you are, we'll enjoy the noise together. Did

839
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: you guys do any of those.

840
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: The Woodstocks we did ninety nine, you know, the one

841
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: everyone's talking about now.

842
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: The one that all the trap went wrong? Well, what

843
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: was it as bad as the documentary shows with what

844
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 3: you guys saw?

845
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: No, we saw because there was no water.

846
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: I mean from what I saw, it was like everybody

847
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 3: was like dying of thirst and everything was burning down.

848
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: That wasn't your experience.

849
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 5: We got in and out first day, so we just

850
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 5: I mean it was it was awesome for us.

851
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: We were on tour with Offspring at the time, and

852
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: so both bands played day one and then we kind

853
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: of when all hell broke loose at Woodstock, we were

854
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: already like two shows later, you know, playing amphitheaters.

855
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: And in the sud.

856
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: That would have been good for the documentary. You got

857
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: the stories kind of fun and boring. You're like, yeah,

858
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: we had a great time. It was awesome.

859
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: I mean, we know there was there was a lot

860
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: of Shenanigans going on, but it wasn't like, yeah, from what.

861
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: The theme of that that documentary was. Because I remember

862
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: part and again, I was a big alternative kid. I

863
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: was like country of marketsas so country music talked about

864
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: where I was from, but alternative music talked about what

865
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: I felt. And I was the first generation of napster.

866
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: So when Napster hit like I would just hit the

867
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: letter L down on every song that started the letter

868
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: L in every format and just have the ability at

869
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: the time I thought was my rightful mind, I deserved

870
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: every song for free. I'm an idiot because we all

871
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: thought that, or least I thought that. But you know,

872
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: it was a a download streaming kid. I was also

873
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: a CD kid. I was also a tape kid, so

874
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: I was able to have really all of that type

875
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: of culture. I guess the only thing I missed was vinyl.

876
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: But was a big alternative kid. And so when they

877
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: showed that festival and they would show the front like

878
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: all the bands playing it, it seemed like a pretty aggressive,

879
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: harder rock festival than maybe what the original was. Did

880
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: you guys feel that at all or was that just

881
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: the music of the time. Was it just like this

882
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 3: is ninety nine or ninety six, This is just what's

883
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: popular right now more than it is we're trying to

884
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: create some rock fest version two.

885
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.

886
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of the heavier stuff came

887
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 5: out at night. But there were some you know, Elvis

888
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 5: Costel actually played. I didn't get to see him.

889
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: Like Jewel played too.

890
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: I think they were cool and like Cheryl Crow and

891
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: it was like g Love and Special Saw.

892
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: I mean it was.

893
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: But the big ones were you know, your Corn and

894
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: Limp Biscuit and Chili Peppers and and Offspring and it.

895
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: You know, we were playing a lot of big radio

896
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: festivals in those days, and they were all kind of

897
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: like they all had a lot of those same bands,

898
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: which really is kind of hasn't been like that since

899
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: there was massive, massive artists on these radio festivals back then.

900
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: Still probably now more so in pop, but I mean

901
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: just an alternative.

902
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: Back then, it was wild.

903
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: The bands that we got to play with we were

904
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: huge fans of, and it was it was it was

905
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: pretty cool.

906
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 9: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the Bobby.

907
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: Cast, who was a band that you were a fan

908
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: of that you got to play with, you thought, Man,

909
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 3: they're as awesome as I thought, or maybe even better.

910
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't even care about the

911
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: other version because I've had bad experiences in those who cares.

912
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,959
Speaker 3: Sometimes people just have bad days. But the other side,

913
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: like who was awesome and you met him and you

914
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: were like this freaking rocks.

915
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 5: I would say most most bands we looked up to

916
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 5: and with were We didn't have many bad experiences.

917
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: Like they were lending lending hand if you needed it.

918
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the Offspring, we toured with them and they

919
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 5: just right out of the gate.

920
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 6: It was like we were lifelong friends.

921
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: Dexter.

922
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 6: Dexter's great. Yeah.

923
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 3: I did a deal with him once, you know, like

924
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 3: fifteen years ago. That was awesome.

925
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's just such a good guy. Yeah.

926
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: I think the band that really blew my mind with

927
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: we did a radio festival in Chicago and we played

928
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 2: our set, went back, took showers, got dressed, went into

929
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: the crowd, and watched Stone Temple Pilots play like at

930
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: probably the best that they just when they were just

931
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: firing on all cylinders and I just remember going, this

932
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: is like like the Aerosmith of our generation. You know,

933
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: this is like one of the best bands I've ever

934
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 2: seen in my life.

935
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 3: You know Scott Wiland's vocals were they that good live?

936
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: I mean during at that point it was at a

937
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: different level.

938
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: They were great and he was one of the best

939
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: front men ever. I mean, it was just like it was.

940
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: It was mind blowing that record.

941
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: I mean, he's that one of the voices for me

942
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: of like my childhood as far as like rock singers

943
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: and just this said, uh smelling lack a ruse like

944
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 3: that record. That song is one of those rare songs

945
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: you go, oh, I know exactly where I was. You know,

946
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: music has the ability to do that to kind of

947
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: when it leaves an imprint when you hear it again,

948
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: you kind of feel and can remember everything that was

949
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: happening around you and that record in that song. But

950
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 3: like Interstate Love song like STP was such a big deal.

951
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: One of my friends got a tattoo and he got

952
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 3: an STP tattoo, but it looked like the oil more

953
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 3: than it did the band, and I was like, that's

954
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: a mistake. That yeah, it looked it looked very much.

955
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: He got oil tattoo more than the band. Give me

956
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: another one somebody else was super cool to tour with.

957
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: I like the good guys stories because it gives me

958
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: it's like I like cool people.

959
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 6: I mean no doubt.

960
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 5: We became real close with them. We toured for what

961
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 5: like eight or ten weeks together. And then Adrian Young,

962
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 5: the drummer, he just he played on our most recent record,

963
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 5: really he played on one of the tracks. But Stephen

964
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 5: Tyler we didn't tour of the RS Smith, but he's

965
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 5: one of those guys that just was such a such

966
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 5: a sweet guy, just so cool to work.

967
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 6: He's sang on one of our songs too, and.

968
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: So warmly like that guy would be one of the

969
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: rare people that I was. I'm not cool, but you

970
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 3: tend to when you meet a lot of cool people

971
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: not cool. Well, I think you're pretty cool. Well I

972
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: appreciate that, but I'm not like, so I'm not so

973
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: cool that things aren't still cool to me. And so

974
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: the first time that I was gonna meet Stephen Tyler,

975
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: I was like, this is wid. This is like as

976
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: far as music goes, royalty, Yeah, like American rock royalty.

977
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: And he comes in he's like Bobby and it's like

978
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: every version of him in your head, but just nicer

979
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: and warmer, and he's like hugging you and he's like,

980
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: what's happen?

981
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 6: Man?

982
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 3: He was telling stories about Freddie Mercury being on the

983
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 3: tour bus with them and I and so I remember

984
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: meeting Steven Tayler a couple times, and he was just

985
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 3: amazing that we were at Disney World. And at the time,

986
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: I wasting American Idol. I did four seasons on that show,

987
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: and that is a Disney property because Disney owns ABC.

988
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: And they were like, we have a day off if

989
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: you want to go to Disney.

990
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 6: Let us know.

991
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: I've never been to Disney before, and so they I

992
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: go to Disney and they're like, you can get one

993
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: of these tour guides and they'll just take you and

994
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: make sure that you know nobody bothers you or you

995
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: can get on rides quickly. So I'm like, why would

996
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: I say no to that. That's what nobody's gonna bother me.

997
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 3: Nobody cared, but I was like, yeah, I'm pretty famous.

998
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: I'll probably need all the help I can get. And

999
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: so I go and this person is in like some

1000
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: sort of like Disney suit and they're walking us like, hey,

1001
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: we're gonna walk with somebody else who's also using a guide,

1002
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: and it was Steven Tyler and some other folks. I

1003
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: didn't say anything. I don't want to bother him, but

1004
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: he comes and goes Bobby bo. I'm like, dude's crazy,

1005
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: Steven freaking Tyler. Yeah, really cool on the people that

1006
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: you think are awesome actually are awesome. Yeah, Like that's

1007
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: that's a that's a fun memory that I have at

1008
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: him just being so freaking cool when he really cool

1009
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: didn't have to be.

1010
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: We were doing a soundtrack song kind of at the

1011
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: peak of what we're talking about, doing three hundred days

1012
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: a year. We were spread so thin. We had to

1013
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: record this song for this movie. We do drums in

1014
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: La guitars in Boston, vocal or guitars in New York,

1015
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: vocals in Boston. And it was on the only day

1016
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: off that we had these weeks, and so we were

1017
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: basically going a month now with no days off, and

1018
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: we're in Boston. We're doing this song with the legendary

1019
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: Glenn Ballard, and and we're huge, you know, with such

1020
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: an honor to be working with him. We're waiting around

1021
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: the studio in Boston, waiting and waiting, and you know,

1022
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 2: we're supposed to start at like two in the afternoon,

1023
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: and like six o'clock rolls by and we're like, dude,

1024
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: this sucks. Man, We're out of here, like this is

1025
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: you know, this is bullshit, and here comes Glenn with

1026
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: Steven Tyler.

1027
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: Until walking into the studio.

1028
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 6: We're all just like, sorry, I'm late. I was with

1029
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 6: Stephen Tyler.

1030
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: And next thing you know, they're ordering enter in and

1031
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: we haven't even started work yet.

1032
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: Now it's eight o'clock.

1033
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: We're sitting around eating Italian food delivered and drinking red

1034
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: wine and we forgot we were bummed, and Tyler is

1035
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: like telling stories, you know, and we're all just sitting around,

1036
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: going like tell us more, uncle Steven.

1037
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't care about working, you know.

1038
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: And the next thing you know, we're in there doing

1039
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: vocals and he came in and jumped in, sang back

1040
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: of vocals.

1041
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: On the stot, jumped in and backup vocals. Yeah, that's awesome.

1042
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: When my own worst enemy was starting to cross over,

1043
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: they said, hey, we're going to this thing's going to

1044
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: cross over. It's so big. Was it like a rocket

1045
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: ship or was it a much slower process where you

1046
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: were just kind of like living it a week to week,

1047
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: watching the crowd slowly get bigger.

1048
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 5: It was I would say it was the closest thing

1049
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 5: to a rocket shit ship I've seen since Yeah, I

1050
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 5: mean I was, I saw, you know always.

1051
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: I always kind of feel like it was a summer hit,

1052
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 2: and it was. But it was number one for eleven weeks.

1053
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: That's unheard of.

1054
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: But it went number one in like six or seven

1055
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: weeks from the time it came out in January. It

1056
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 2: was like by March it was a number one hitting.

1057
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: It carried to the summer, so it was. It was bizarre,

1058
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: but we were on the on were so much that

1059
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: and visiting radio stations every day. But and and like

1060
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: we heard that it was number one, but you know,

1061
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: we didn't really know what was happening. We just were

1062
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: going and going and going.

1063
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: I was talking to Adam Durat's County Crow's lead singer,

1064
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 3: and he was talking about a similar thing where he

1065
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: really didn't know how popular the band was. And when

1066
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: he realized that there were populars, he went into a

1067
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 3: movie in the movie theater. He went in by himself

1068
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 3: in the daytime, and before the movie ended, they were

1069
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 3: like three quarters of theater fol because somebody had gotten

1070
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: to a payphone and called and been like, oh my god,

1071
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: and then there were people outside of waiting and it's

1072
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: like what is happening? Yeah, because he they tried, he

1073
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: wasn't stationary enough to actually understand the traction. And but

1074
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 3: that was like the moment for him where he's like, Okay,

1075
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: we're living in a different space now at this point,

1076
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 3: where was that realization for you guys?

1077
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 6: I mean, I think it.

1078
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 5: Happened too back then. You got to remember there's no

1079
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 5: social media. So you're on the radio and you're on MTV,

1080
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 5: but no one's like we're not monitor ring not only

1081
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 5: ourselves but other artists. You're not able to, you know,

1082
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 5: unless you go to the show. You meet people there occasionally,

1083
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 5: but you're not like as accessible. So I think you

1084
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 5: start noticing when you go to the mall, you know,

1085
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 5: and you have a day off on tour and you're like, oh,

1086
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 5: I had to go get some socks or whatever, and

1087
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 5: then people recognize you from MTV because it was a

1088
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 5: bigger deal. It was no YouTube, Like kids went on

1089
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 5: from school and like we're glued to t RL because

1090
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 5: that's the only time they're going to see these artists

1091
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 5: in their new music videos, and so we got to

1092
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 5: sort of watch that explode and how it affected our

1093
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 5: you know, people recognizing us because it was like the

1094
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 5: late night TV and.

1095
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 1: First big t We're like, this is crazy.

1096
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 3: We get to go beyond such and such show. Which

1097
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: one Yeah that or Conan, I can't remember one of

1098
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 3: what was that like the first time.

1099
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 5: That was like, put me in front of one hundred

1100
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 5: thousand people, no problem, put me in it. You know,

1101
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 5: imagine you've done those like it's lighting like this and it's.

1102
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 6: It's forty degrees, You're just shivering. You're just like, damn,

1103
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 6: do is it to be this cold?

1104
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, did you ever go back and watch

1105
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: those performances after or would you just do them and

1106
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: move on?

1107
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: We would sometimes we would go after the first one,

1108
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 2: we started bringing our own sound guy to the TV

1109
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: shows so that he would mix and he would mix

1110
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: it on the little TV speakers so that we because

1111
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 2: we wanted it to sound as rock as possible when

1112
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: it would come through people's TV sets.

1113
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you not find the first time you did

1114
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: it that that that happened? Did they mix it?

1115
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: Not?

1116
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 7: So?

1117
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 6: Much.

1118
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounded like it's a pretty vulnerable thing in

1119
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 5: general television sound. There's an art to that they've gotten

1120
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 5: pretty good at, but it's taken a while for them

1121
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 5: people to figure it out.

1122
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: You did Leno, you did ConA Digeberty. Letterman never did Letterman.

1123
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: The couple of times that we got that it was

1124
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: a possibility to do, we were just so far from

1125
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: New York that it just it wasn't possible. And that

1126
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: was that's one of my you know, that was always

1127
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 2: my wed. We ended up doing Leno like five times,

1128
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: and he was always so great to us, and we

1129
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: did several of the shows. But my dream, as from

1130
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: being a kid, was always to be on Letterman and

1131
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: to have Paul Schaeffer playing with our band.

1132
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and it never happens.

1133
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: That's Letterman is like my hero. I got to go

1134
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 3: to a show. I went to one taping. It was

1135
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: the coolest thing ever. But you're it was twelve degrees

1136
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 3: and that theater, though, did at least feel like a

1137
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 3: real theater because they used in New York theater where

1138
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: the TV sets are so small, like you're talking about

1139
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: like Conan. The only reason it looked halfway big is

1140
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: because the camera angles were like the cameras were cross

1141
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: from each other, so they would just switch angles and

1142
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 3: look at this huge room. It was this TV set.

1143
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 3: It was a small studio where I could see playing

1144
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: shows versus playing that where it feels like I got

1145
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: seven people looking at me, and it's weird because it's

1146
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: not that one shirement. Yeah, and they didn't really come

1147
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: to see you. It's like if I'm playing the Opry

1148
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: and I go up and I'm gonna do comedy, they

1149
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: didn't come to see me. They came to see the Opry,

1150
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: and so hopefully they're entertained by me, and hopefully I

1151
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: get it. But there have been shows before where maybe

1152
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 3: the crowd's a little older, or and I'm up telling

1153
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: jokes and they're not. I've got a couple of pop

1154
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: culture references they don't get, and I'm like, I'm like,

1155
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 3: oh man, like they came to see Conan or they

1156
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 3: came to see the Operation. Now, if you can crush

1157
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: one of those, you feel freaking great because you're like,

1158
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: I just impressed and entertained people that did not really

1159
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 3: know they were coming to see me, which is always

1160
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 3: super cool, and that has to be kind of a

1161
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: similar feeling to play a talk show because they didn't

1162
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 3: buy tickets to see you guys, they came to watch

1163
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 3: the whole show. And now they have a lip playing there.

1164
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 5: And comedy's got to be tough because you're it's just

1165
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 5: you that sucks, and man, that's it's vulnerability.

1166
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: Is it all sucks unless it's awesome. They're only two things.

1167
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: They're only two ways. You know, if we do if

1168
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 3: I'm doing, you know, and we'll do comedy music some too,

1169
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: and you know, it's a bigger version of a band

1170
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: that you guys played with. But if we do comedy music,

1171
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 3: we can kind of hide mind our music a little

1172
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: bit where if it's not going right, you can't really

1173
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: tell nobody it's not entertain because we're playing music. I

1174
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: got acoustic guitar and playing stupid songs. Dude, when you're

1175
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 3: doing stand up.

1176
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't, like anyone.

1177
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: Doesn't go over that like you hope you can't like

1178
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: go back and rock out with the drummer for thirty

1179
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 2: seconds so you get your thoughts back.

1180
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 3: I saw that the NHL had taken my own words.

1181
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean they made it a thing again, like it's

1182
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: like the like there's season song or something.

1183
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: It's crazy, right, Am I.

1184
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 3: Wrong about this?

1185
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 5: We've been getting cool indvites. We just actually just went

1186
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 5: it sucks. I wish we were obviously really rooting for him.

1187
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 5: But the last night of the playoffs and we got

1188
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 5: to play, we played two songs live really yeah.

1189
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: For the Preds.

1190
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's cool.

1191
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 2: It's always played like they've always played it as one

1192
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 2: of the crowd sing along songs for like like Detroit

1193
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: has always used it. There's been a few teams that

1194
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: have used it, but for some reason in the last

1195
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: couple of years, even more so this year, and even

1196
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: to the point where ag just did an interview with

1197
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: The New York Times a few weeks back, and the

1198
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: question was like what all of a sudden, like why

1199
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: how did this song become like this unofficial NHL anthem theme?

1200
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: You know, And we get we get sent videos all

1201
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: the time from different teams of the crowd just singing

1202
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: it as the you know, the puck drops and they're

1203
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: doing their thing but their crowd is still singing the

1204
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: rest of the chorus or whatever, and you know, that

1205
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: song just worked. Just at this point stewards of that

1206
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: it's like that song could almost have its own manager

1207
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: and its own staff of people just kind of figuring out,

1208
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: like what's happening next with it?

1209
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: We just sort of go like sweet, all right, cool.

1210
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 3: You know there have been a bunch I'm thinking about

1211
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 3: that song being play to games. I feel like where

1212
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 3: they play a lot of that in between, like plays

1213
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: right between. It's always it. They started it, please tell me,

1214
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 3: and then everybody goes, please tell me, like it's such

1215
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: a it's such a sports anthem.

1216
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 6: Now it's crazy, it's so cool, and like in the

1217
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 6: past five.

1218
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 3: Years though, You're right, that's when it really feels like

1219
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: it started to be played a lot in games. I

1220
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: would imagine never thought that would be a sports song.

1221
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 10: Never, We never really imagined it was going to be.

1222
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 10: But that's about as athletic as forever do. I remember

1223
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 10: watching MTV Big tro O kid Pam Anderson was in

1224
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 10: the video for Miserable right right, like she was small,

1225
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 10: got it?

1226
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: That's what I did. That's how you know.

1227
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: I'm not lying because I didn't rewatch it. I'm just

1228
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: going for a memory. You guys were small, and you

1229
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: were like on her, like on her body, but that

1230
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 3: you guys were such in the middle of pop culture

1231
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 3: at that time, Like you had gotten so big now

1232
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 3: you're you're able to recruit basically the you know, the

1233
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: biggest pop culture bay Watch, you know, hot person at

1234
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 3: the time to be in the video. Yeah, what was

1235
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 3: that like to be like that on and that in

1236
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 3: and to work with somebody like Pam Anderson when she

1237
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: was like in her prime or did you get to

1238
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 3: work with her?

1239
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 6: Was it all?

1240
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: We did know? But we had done. So she did

1241
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: a show called VIP after I remember that.

1242
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was like a like a detective or something.

1243
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they it started out they asked for

1244
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: like a couple of songs to be used, and it

1245
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: turned into they wrote an entire episode about us, and

1246
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: you're he gets kidnapped, they got to save him so

1247
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: he can make the show, and we're all acting it's terrible,

1248
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: that's funny.

1249
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: But so we were on the set of.

1250
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: Her TV show for a week and in the makeup

1251
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 2: chair next to her, and we got to like we

1252
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: got to know her on the set, you know. And

1253
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: the video concept for Miserable was being talked about, and

1254
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: the label kept sending us this idea of this giant

1255
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: model with us walking around and we thought it was

1256
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 2: the cheesiest, most terrible idea we'd ever seen, and we

1257
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: said no a bunch of times, and then one day,

1258
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: just to sort of shut the label up to stop

1259
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: sending us this idea, we said, like, how about this.

1260
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: If Pam will be the girl in the video, then

1261
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: we'll do that. And then the next day in the

1262
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: makeup chair, she's like, hey, guys, I'm gonna be in

1263
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: your video. We're like, well, you got to be kidding me.

1264
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 6: She was another one of those people, like a Steven Tyler,

1265
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 6: but in you know, this.

1266
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 5: Pop culture, she was like our Marilyn Monroe, really of

1267
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 5: our generation and just the sweetest cool She's so awesome.

1268
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: Uh that when you wrote the song, I mean obviously

1269
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 3: like you got your chuckles and it's like you make

1270
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 3: me come, You make me complete when you do you

1271
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: make me Come? Does the label ever go, hey, we

1272
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: have to do something about this, and we're gonna if

1273
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a pop song because I don't know,

1274
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 3: you can't yo You make Me Come?

1275
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 6: Was it ever an issue we thought it would be.

1276
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 3: It never was not, as much as you saw it. Yeah,

1277
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 3: that's pretty funny, I mean really how many songs go

1278
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: you make Me Come at the beginning, and nobody says

1279
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 3: a dang thing about it.

1280
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of crazy, and no.

1281
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 3: Pushback from like MTV, nothing because she because Maryland, because

1282
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: Pam Anderson was in it.

1283
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 5: It just because it was it was actually the word

1284
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 5: here I come, you know what I mean, it's spelled

1285
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 5: that way, it's not. Yeah, So what can you say

1286
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 5: if they try to say somebody like that's weird, You're

1287
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 5: gonna yeah, you're.

1288
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: That was crazy too because then because we went from

1289
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: Enemy and then zip Bloc was after that, and we

1290
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: were doing t r L and we had all the

1291
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: all those videos where there was tons of colors and

1292
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: people and things happening, and it was just like a

1293
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: visual stimulation and an here it is just abandon her

1294
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: on a blue screen and but it it. We knew

1295
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 2: that this was gonna be a kind of a game

1296
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: changer because Entertainment, Tonight, Access, Hollywood, like all those magazine

1297
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: shows were there, and that's the debut of our video

1298
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: that time. And yeah, we did TRL, but it was

1299
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: also his debut on whatever network that that her show

1300
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: was on, and it went worldwide. You know, we were

1301
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: it was on Japanese television and it was on it,

1302
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: you know, in Italy and all these differ, and it

1303
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: was just say she took that song and you know,

1304
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: the record, that album at that time was probably getting

1305
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: ready to wrap up, and then that song just carried

1306
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: it for another year.

1307
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: It just charted. It stayed on the charts for another year,

1308
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: and just stayed on the road another year. It was

1309
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: kind of wild.

1310
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 8: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

1311
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 8: Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

1312
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 3: Where do you play I'll just be cool like you guys,

1313
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 3: where do you play enemy in your set? I'm just

1314
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 3: gonna say enemy. I normally wouldn't say that, but see

1315
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: I'm taking the liberty. Yeah, yeah, where do you play

1316
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: that normally?

1317
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 5: Is it the very last songs? Because where we played

1318
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 5: the first and last? First and last We've actually talked

1319
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 5: about it awesome.

1320
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 3: Right, like play it first across like what the we

1321
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 3: didn't expect it first, and at the end, you like

1322
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 3: like go back into it at the end of another song,

1323
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: right and have them We did it again.

1324
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 5: We were on one of those music cruises and we're

1325
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 5: gonna be playing pretty late on the first night, so

1326
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 5: just to kind of like as a teaser.

1327
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 6: What was it a were we getting up with someone else?

1328
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 5: Whatever we did, we did like a teaser. We just

1329
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 5: played like the opening riff and then went into another song.

1330
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 5: There's a way to do it. It brought people over

1331
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 5: immediately to the stage, like, oh that man, that opening riff.

1332
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 3: It's one of the most legendary rock riffs of Again

1333
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: in the last thirty forty years. We just were open

1334
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 3: in the studio way a guys playing guitar and we

1335
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: were like, play the riff of your top five famous song.

1336
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 3: We only did sixties and seventies, but then I started

1337
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 3: thinking some of you guys were coming over. I mean

1338
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: maybe under the bridge. There's only a few that I

1339
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: would immediately go to as far as like opening riffs

1340
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 3: where you're like, yep, let's go. And this is definitely

1341
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 3: to me it's in that top five just because how

1342
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: many bad Like for me, I can't I can't really

1343
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 3: mount mouth licks and it actually sounds like it is

1344
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: bound down, down, down down, doom, doom doom. Don't that's

1345
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: me trying to do chili peppers or.

1346
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 6: Start me up the stones?

1347
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, Like you can't compe with that. But

1348
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 3: that's that's like in a different generation. I'm talking are

1349
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 3: Time like really one of them the more legendary openings

1350
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 3: to any song, I think, Michael be some other newer

1351
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: ones that you would think of and I don't. I

1352
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 3: would also get not a red love song, it's not

1353
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 3: really a riff. Yeah, and unfair. I was gonna do too.

1354
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: It's a vocal. It doesn't count, but got to keep

1355
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: them separated. But still that doesn't count. There just aren't

1356
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: as many legendary guitar lick songs that when you hear

1357
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 3: it from the late nineties, two thousand teen Spirit.

1358
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was our the school kind of that

1359
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: we I mean we grew up and again going back

1360
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: to the whole, like starting to learn how to play guitar.

1361
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: That's the only things that I could learn.

1362
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: At first.

1363
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 2: I would just learn openings to songs and they were

1364
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: you know, I mentioned Crazy Train, but like that song

1365
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: is one of them.

1366
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: Back in black No no no, no no no no no, yeah, terrible,

1367
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 3: I said, Like I said, I'm terrible at it.

1368
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: But that kind of thing where the song starts with

1369
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: the riff. Even a lot of Boston songs are journey

1370
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: or when you think of don't stop Believing, you know

1371
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: you also you hear the solo in your head too.

1372
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: That was that was what inspired me as a guitar

1373
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: player much more than just some fast, like shredding solo thing.

1374
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: I always wanted to write memorable hooks that you know,

1375
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: you get you get the title and the chorus, but

1376
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: you also get this riff, you know.

1377
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 3: So it's almost like another chorus.

1378
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 6: It's like a the hook, big hook.

1379
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big fat hook at the very beginning

1380
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: of the song, was it Bowling Alley with the video

1381
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 3: the first one?

1382
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1383
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, that's crazy. You still like playing live? It's

1384
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: still fun?

1385
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1386
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 3: I mean did it ever not get fun? And they

1387
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 3: get really fun again? Yeah, Like you get a little

1388
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: burnt out and then you have to kind of rEFInd

1389
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 3: it and now it's amazing. Is that kind of how

1390
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: it feels again or no.

1391
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 5: There's a Yeah, there's definitely a little burnout factor that happens,

1392
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 5: and if you can't recover from that, I think it's

1393
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 5: It's usually not the live.

1394
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: Part though, that gets cumbersome or whatever the word is.

1395
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: It's usually everything else around it. So traveling, you've heard

1396
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: people say like we don't get paid to play the show.

1397
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: We get paid for the other twenty That's the part

1398
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: that can really, you know, wear you down.

1399
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 3: Did you ever resent the success of Enemy that you're like, God,

1400
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: I don't want to play the song again, not even

1401
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 3: for a few years.

1402
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: No, because the crowd just erupts every time we and

1403
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: they were and they were erupting in ninety nine when

1404
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: it came out, and they just haven't stopped.

1405
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: So that's always a thrill.

1406
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: I saw it.

1407
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 6: It got in the way for a minute.

1408
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 5: It just it was kind of getting in the way

1409
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 5: of other songs that we thought were great, maybe even better,

1410
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 5: just because eleven weeks on the radio taking up that

1411
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 5: small you know, there's not a lot of space for

1412
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 5: songs that it was like, oh no, we're we're spinning

1413
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 5: this song way too much, so we're not ready for

1414
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 5: the next single.

1415
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 6: So it kind of like postponed some of that.

1416
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 5: But luckily, you know, Miserable broke through, and we did,

1417
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 5: we still got we kind of broke through. But it's

1418
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 5: crazy because like you're talking about Enemy now, like right

1419
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 5: now on the radio, it's getting played as much as

1420
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 5: it wasn't nineteen ninety nine, and it's it's.

1421
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 3: Just crazy, like I'm back and everybody, everybody screams it.

1422
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 6: It's so cool, you can't back.

1423
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 3: Everybody screams that freaking song.

1424
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 5: I love going down the Broadway and just watching the

1425
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 5: dronk people's scream. You know, it's like here in a

1426
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 5: country music town and it's just so cool to hear,

1427
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 5: you know, our little rock song that came out twenty

1428
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 5: five years ago.

1429
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: Like I could hear the song in a bar, I

1430
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 3: could hear it in Kroger. Feel the same way about

1431
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 3: it because it doesn't feel it doesn't feel cheesy at all,

1432
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 3: but it's like such a part of just the fabric

1433
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 3: of that song, of the music in the past twenty

1434
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 3: five years that it doesn't matter where I am. That

1435
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 3: song just feels normal. It's funny. My wife didn't know.

1436
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 3: She didn't know Miserable and I was playing it because

1437
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 3: we were learning the guitar parts and stuff to play,

1438
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 3: and she goes, what did they just say? What do

1439
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 3: you mean? She goes, that's how you make me come.

1440
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 3: You're singing a song you made me come. No, No,

1441
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 3: they're singing it just She's like, is that what it said?

1442
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 3: I said?

1443
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 7: No?

1444
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 3: Keep then it goes you make me complete, and then

1445
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 3: it goes you made me completely miserable. She was like, Ah,

1446
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 3: I never heard of that one before.

1447
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 6: It's all the stages of marriage.

1448
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I didn't say that at all. Okay, Look,

1449
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 3: here's what we were talking about, you guys before you

1450
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 3: got here, just talking about some of you know what

1451
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 3: you guys. You know the shows that you're doing, but

1452
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 3: a lot of the cities that the radio shows in

1453
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 3: from Orlando. I mean, you're playing Arkansas, South Dakota the

1454
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 3: nineties Cruise twenty twenty five with Blues travel Or Collective

1455
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 3: Soul Jim Blossoms. Ever, if this wasn't a cruise, I

1456
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: would love to go. I just get so sea sick.

1457
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 3: I can't do it because this sounds awesome. Blues travel

1458
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: or Collective Soul, Jim Blossoms, Okay, I've seen Collective Soul

1459
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: in the past couple of years. I've seen Jim Blossoms

1460
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 3: in the past couple of years. Ever clear, So Art

1461
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 3: Alexis play solo, that's Sparkling fade Out. I mean, that's

1462
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 3: one of my favorites. Great, I mean, that's that's that's

1463
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 3: one of my favorites. Color me bad, that's funny. Hired

1464
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 3: them once. Lisa Lobe I Love had the biggest crush

1465
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 3: on as a kid, watched her reality show Love nine Stories.

1466
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 3: Loved like Fastball the way when I worked at the Marina,

1467
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 3: that song the director of Bob then you want it?

1468
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,479
Speaker 3: That great song, great song, sec Music Factory. Holy crap,

1469
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,479
Speaker 3: that's the thing. Still, huh, who knew? We'll see who knew?

1470
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 3: Digital Underground Sophie Bee Hawkins. Well, the first like five

1471
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 3: or six I really love and you guys, And so

1472
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: you guys check it out, go see him live. You

1473
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: guys are so good live. You're so energetic, you're such

1474
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 3: nice guys.

1475
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: We are going to be in Orlando too, by the way.

1476
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Orlando wants to be twenty fourth.

1477
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that what it is?

1478
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1479
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 3: Oh that's super cool. It's like the Gardens.

1480
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.

1481
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 5: And we are going to do the tour guide thing

1482
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 5: that you were talking about because we don't want people

1483
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 5: to freak out on us.

1484
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, I'm a big fan. It was so

1485
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 3: cool that you guys were cool, Like I was relieved

1486
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: by that and I wanted to come by. I think

1487
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: maybe during the show two times after I kept going

1488
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 3: thank you, I just wanted to. I was so grateful

1489
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 3: that you guys did that, because again I talked about fabric,

1490
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: like you guys' music was a big fabric of my

1491
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 3: life whenever you know, I was a teenager. And so

1492
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: to have you guys not only play but also be

1493
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 3: cool and also have my friends go. I've spent a

1494
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 3: lot of time with them. They're super cool. Like that's it, right,

1495
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 3: and that's what this whole thing's about so.

1496
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: Well, and and I, you know, want to just compliment

1497
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 2: you on what a what a first class show that

1498
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: is done not only the cause, but the team that

1499
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: you have that puts it all together and does all

1500
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 2: the behind the scenes stuff. I mean, just we we've

1501
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 2: done enough things where when you get to one where

1502
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 2: it's done the way you do it, it's we appreciate it.

1503
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: And it's really just a good group of people you

1504
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: have involved in that. What's the deal?

1505
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: I know you guys are put up music. I don't

1506
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 3: want to keep it too much longer, But so when

1507
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 3: you do music, now, like what do you what is

1508
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 3: your what is your music about? Like what do you

1509
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 3: want it to sound like? Now? Because I don't feel

1510
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 3: like you're pursuing a traditional country sound. But I feel

1511
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 3: like what was music made that was like rock in

1512
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 3: two thousand could be considered country now anyway, Like this

1513
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 3: is a foggy line, like what music are you making now?

1514
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 3: And why are you making it?

1515
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 5: We're just we're back to making lit music. Yes, he's

1516
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 5: just right, and lit music is all those things. And

1517
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 5: country has left the mark on us as writers and

1518
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 5: as people, so it makes its way into songs that

1519
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 5: aren't country songs. But there's definitely a huge impact that

1520
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 5: this town has had on our music.

1521
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 6: So I think that's just that.

1522
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Well, I love you, guys, and I appreciate

1523
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 3: you coming, and you guys can follow at litband official,

1524
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 3: litband dot com. Before you guys came in again all

1525
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 3: those shows and we'll put a bunch of this information

1526
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 3: down on the show notes as well. I appreciate you, guys,

1527
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: Appreciate you

1528
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 9: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.