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Speaker 2: Well that's right, you heard the man. It is that

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Speaker 2: time of week. My name is Bernie Frattle. We are

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Speaker 2: company live from the Fox Sports Radio studios here in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. We will take you up to three am

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Speaker 2: Pacific six am Eastern Absolute Jam Pat Show as always,

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Speaker 2: and first we must begin with congratulations to everyone. Congratulations

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Speaker 2: you made it through your first official weekend without football.

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Speaker 2: Only twenty seven more of these and football is back.

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Speaker 2: And what a weekend it's been. Friday, well, it was Friday,

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Speaker 2: the thirteenth, Saturday was Valentine's Day, and Sunday, well, the

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Speaker 2: best for last. The NBA All Star Game, often referred

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Speaker 2: to as the greatest sporting spec the goal of all time,

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Speaker 2: said no one ever, but what the hell? The NBA

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Speaker 2: has slowly become the Meet the Fokkers League. So ei,

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Speaker 2: there are thirty teams, you play six months to eliminate ten.

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Speaker 2: Everybody makes millions, and you don't even have to produce results. Hell,

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Speaker 2: you don't even have to show up to work if

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Speaker 2: you don't want to. And of course the rest of

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Speaker 2: us are well, we're supposedly not smart enough to understand

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Speaker 2: this new fangled genius strategy. So while we're at it,

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Speaker 2: let's play a little word association game with the four

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Speaker 2: major sports. For instance, the NFL, the King, the MLB anticipation,

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Speaker 2: NHL Olympics, NBA tanking, and why not play stupid games

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Speaker 2: wins stud prizes. You don't like if you play your

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Speaker 2: cards right, You don't like sit all your starters in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, You might just urn the right to draft.

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Speaker 2: To transcend it being like Mark Hill Foltz or Andrea Barniani,

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Speaker 2: maybe Ben Simmons DeAndrea Aiden, or how about the legendary

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Speaker 2: Anthony Bennett. No wonder why teams tank because it works

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Speaker 2: so well? But I digress. Want to fix the problem,

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Speaker 2: hear me out. I know I have been drinking hell

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Speaker 2: with the lottery. Here's what I would do. You want

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Speaker 2: the first pick in the NBA draft, Simple, win the championship.

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Speaker 2: That's right, you heard me. Give it to the NBA champion,

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Speaker 2: and the number two pick to the finals runner up,

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Speaker 2: and right down down the line, you make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: you draft higher, advance in the playoffs, your draft even higher.

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Speaker 2: Depending on how far you advance. You want to lose.

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Speaker 2: You like losing, You think it's really good for you. See,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe in rewarding stupidity. I think you should

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Speaker 2: reward quality, effort, excellence, determination. Oh, by the way, huge

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Speaker 2: props to Keishad Johnson, not Keishawn Johnson. Throw me the

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Speaker 2: Dan ball. Keishad Johnson, he went the slam Dunk contest.

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Speaker 2: Huge props to Team Nicks. They won the Shooting Stars event.

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Speaker 2: Big props to Damian Lillard he won the three point contest,

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Speaker 2: but I think he's still too hurt to play. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I'm lost up in all of it. And

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Speaker 2: give it up to the Rising Stars team. They led

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Speaker 2: the way on All Star Friday. But see you already

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Speaker 2: knew all that, or did you? But take heart? Maybe,

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Speaker 2: just maybe football never even really left. Guess what. Starting Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: February seventeenth, all the way through my third clubs can

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Speaker 2: start to design, designate, easy for me to say, franchise

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Speaker 2: or transition players. Then coming up, let's see nine to

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Speaker 2: eight days from Sunday today's and most of my a

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Speaker 2: lot of my listening audience at Sunday from where I

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Speaker 2: sit it till Saturday. But work with me February twenty

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Speaker 2: third for a period to seven days. We've got the

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Speaker 2: Underwear Olympics, the NFL Scouting combine Lucas Hill Stadium, and

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Speaker 2: you'll be watching. That's why they televise it, because you

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Speaker 2: watch pretty soon. March is here. Between March ninth and

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Speaker 2: the eleventh, clubs are permitted to contact and then aren

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Speaker 2: do negotiations with certified agents and players who are going

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Speaker 2: player contract inspires March twelfth, you'll be paying attention. March eleventh,

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Speaker 2: twenty six to twenty six league year officially begins. Free

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Speaker 2: by the way, the trading period for twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: begins at four o'clock Eastern time once all those contracts

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Speaker 2: expire on March twelfth. All right, cruise along. We're not

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Speaker 2: done with March. March twenty ninth through April. First, the

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Speaker 2: annual League meeting in Phoenix, Arizona. There's seven events right

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Speaker 2: here before you know it. On April sixth, clubs that

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Speaker 2: to time test, visit, interview, or conduct a physical exam

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Speaker 2: can do it right at their club facility. April seventeenth,

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Speaker 2: beginning their off season workout programs. April twenty second. That's

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Speaker 2: offer sheets. Oh yeah, and one of the greatest, and

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Speaker 2: you know it, one of the greatest Maine for TV

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Speaker 2: great city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Of course, I'm referring to

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft. All of a sudden, we get into

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Speaker 2: May May first through the fourth May eight through the eleventh,

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Speaker 2: And let's not forget also May first, it's the deadline

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Speaker 2: for clubs to exercise their fifty year option for players

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Speaker 2: who were selected in the first round of the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three draft. See so who it all melts together?

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Speaker 2: May eleventh, the rookie development program begins, and then May

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Speaker 2: nineteenth and twenty through actually have another meeting Spring meeting

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Speaker 2: in Florida, and this will be all heavily covered, and

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Speaker 2: you'll pay attention. June really picks Upstein because June first

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Speaker 2: You got two weeks for that same club to withdraw

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Speaker 2: another higher qualifying offer to restricted free agents and still

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Speaker 2: maintain the opportunity to retain exclusive negotiating rates. So it's

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Speaker 2: all about who do you want to keep, who do

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Speaker 2: want to pick up. In late June, the rookie Readiness

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Speaker 2: telling you, before you know it, the future always has

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Speaker 2: July fifteenth. That's the deadline for any club that designated

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Speaker 2: a franchise player. Well, now you've got to sign that

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Speaker 2: that date, the player can only sign a one year

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Speaker 2: contract with his prior club. I'm looking at you, George Picket's.

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Speaker 2: Either way, you're gonna get a lot of money. So

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Speaker 2: just relax, it's all going to work out. That's Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: Mid July. Now clubs are permitted. They're opening preseason training

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Speaker 2: find that's the fine as a player who signed an

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Speaker 2: I know we're getting in little of the weeds here,

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Speaker 2: but we'll really get into is that July twenty second,

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Speaker 2: Just a few days later, the first scheduled day of

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Speaker 2: the first NFL training camp is here, and before you

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Speaker 2: know it, they'll be playing exhibition games again and football

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Speaker 2: will be here again. But in the meantime, you've got

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Speaker 2: that NBA All Star Game on Sunday to enjoy. By

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Speaker 2: the way, I don't know if you have Prime Video.

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Speaker 2: I cannot recommend highly enough this ABA four part series

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Speaker 2: of the soul of the NBA to solo basketball. It's

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Speaker 2: just fabulous, and you realize how truly entertaining and how

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Speaker 2: romanticized as it should have been the NBA was at

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Speaker 2: one time, and it could it be that again. I

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Speaker 2: don't know these men that built the NBA. They don't

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Speaker 2: make it any better than Bill Russell. Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

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Speaker 2: I know he was surly. I was an intern at

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Speaker 2: the Forum, but an aera Dyede guy. Why doesn't anybody

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Speaker 2: championships at UCLA three MVPs, wasn't allowed to play as

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Speaker 2: championships in the NBA two different teams. Everybody talks about Lebron.

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Speaker 2: This is Lebron. That fine. I've had enough of it.

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Speaker 2: What if I told you at eight, age forty one,

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Speaker 2: forty one forty one, Jabbar played eighty games and averaged

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Speaker 2: the Pistons the Lakers went back to back that that year.

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Speaker 2: They beat the Pistons at seven. Even the following season,

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Speaker 2: when he turned forty two, he played seventy four games

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Speaker 2: In the nineteen eighty seven finals, as a forty ruled,

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Speaker 2: Jabbar delivered an incredibly stellar performance twenty two points, seven rebounds,

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Speaker 2: against the dreaded Boston Celtics in that blood feud. So

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Speaker 2: the interviews with Doctor these guys were different. Now, fair enough.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to deny they're not world class athletes.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to deny they have their moments. But

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Speaker 2: it's created a real apathy, I think TV ratings or

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Speaker 7: You know, in college football, we always talk about lego. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Them all were four weeks from selection Sunday. And that'll

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Speaker 7: What I thought well as a guy who covered the

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Speaker 8: You got to play.

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Speaker 5: You sit out on home games.

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Speaker 7: But when you have markets like Orlando and some of

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Speaker 7: We've got to have these guys playing. I mean, it's

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Speaker 7: it was funny. Friend of mine called me and goes,

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Speaker 2: So just to piggyback at what you said. And I

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Speaker 7: Well, I agree with you, I don't think he can

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Speaker 5: This tank.

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Speaker 7: Here's a very simple solution on the tanking. The teams

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Speaker 7: Something got to change here, And to me, what is

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Speaker 6: There's no debate.

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Speaker 5: The guys absolutely fought.

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Speaker 7: I mean, can you imagine if Patrick Mahomes every time

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Speaker 7: And then here's the best part. When you have a

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Speaker 7: What do you say to that? He goes, well, you

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Speaker 7: So I honestly, Bernie, I hate to say that the

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Speaker 2: Talk with a mal of Shaw, follow him in Twitter

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Speaker 7: But here, here's the thing I don't get, Bernie, is

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Speaker 2: Well, college sports have been professionalized, and I think we're

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Speaker 7: I would agree with you completely. I think this product

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Speaker 7: College athletics, football and basketball have similar situations based on eligibility.

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Speaker 7: cleaned up, but it's going to be pretty interesting. How

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Speaker 7: this thing continues to go forward, and I think you're

431
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Speaker 7: gonna lose a lot of loyalty from fan bases, and

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Speaker 7: I think it will eventually take that. The one thing

433
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Speaker 7: where different than the NBA. The NBA just doesn't care

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Speaker 7: about its fans. I think college athletics because it's so

435
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Speaker 7: reliant on its fan basis for money and for you know,

436
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Speaker 7: not only donations in NIL, but attendance as well. It's

437
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Speaker 7: different than with the NBA having these long term contracts.

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Speaker 7: I think you could see some changes come down, you know,

439
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Speaker 7: in a few years, or at least sooner than that,

440
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Speaker 7: to improve their sport overall.

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Speaker 2: Talking with a model Shaw follow him at a mall

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Speaker 2: Shaw one on Twitter. All right, so this is gonna

443
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Speaker 2: be my favorite part. I think we can really turn

444
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Speaker 2: our attention to college basketball. I do this every year.

445
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Speaker 2: You get these analysts on TV and so, oh, I

446
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: don't know anyone of twenty teams could win. No, it's

447
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Speaker 2: just not true. Okay, twenty teams can't win six games

448
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: in a row. But what I've done, like the last

449
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Speaker 2: five years is lit my top eight and I've hit

450
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Speaker 2: it every year that one of these eight teams will

451
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Speaker 2: win the championship, and I want to run by you

452
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Speaker 2: and let me know if I miss anybody or I'm

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Speaker 2: all wet. I want to start with Arizona and Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Before this past week, I thought it was Arizona and

455
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Speaker 2: everybody else. Michigan was right next to them, And now

456
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Speaker 2: I think it's Arizona and Michigan and everybody else. But

457
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Speaker 2: now Arizona's dropped too straight that may or may not matter.

458
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Speaker 2: In late March, what was your biggest takeaway from observing

459
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Speaker 2: Arizona in these last two games, losing at Kansas without

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Speaker 2: their best player and then losing at home today to

461
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Speaker 2: Texas taken a TEMN and AM point favorite.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the Kansas loss, I mean, Bill self is not

463
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Speaker 7: what I think forty and oh on Big Mondays in

464
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Speaker 7: his career, and Kansas has had one loss on a

465
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Speaker 7: Big Monday, you know, since they've started it on ESPN.

466
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Speaker 7: So I just chalk it up to the hardest place

467
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Speaker 7: to play in college football or college basketball is at

468
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Speaker 7: the fog, and you saw it with Arizona. But living

469
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Speaker 7: today and look, I think Texas Texas a pretty good team.

470
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Speaker 7: Compton is outstanding, Anderson's going to be a high draft pick.

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Speaker 7: In the NBA.

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Speaker 6: They're a very good team and Grant mccaslym can coach.

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Speaker 7: But I think there's some concerns. Now, if you're looking

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Speaker 7: at from an Arizona standpoint, it wasn't quite the slam

475
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Speaker 7: dunk the way this team was. Remember they came into

476
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Speaker 7: this week at twenty three and oh now, all of

477
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Speaker 7: a sudden, he dropped back to back games.

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Speaker 9: I agree with you.

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Speaker 7: I think Michigan's another team is extremely dangerous. I don't

480
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Speaker 7: remember the last time Nick Crohn's teams got outscored in

481
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Speaker 7: a half by twenty eight points the way they did today.

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Speaker 7: And trust me what I tell you, I was very

483
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Speaker 7: happy to.

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Speaker 10: See that happen.

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Speaker 7: I didn't have a bet on the game, but just

486
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 7: the way McK cronin is always treated as players that

487
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 7: can't stand it, and I'm glad to see his team

488
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 7: get absolutely trounced. And this is coming from an Ohio

489
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Speaker 7: state guys, so watching Michigan beat up on UCLA was

490
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Speaker 7: good to see. I agree with you, these two teams

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Speaker 7: are the front runners. I think these two teams are

492
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Speaker 7: extremely dangerous. So I'm going to tell you about a

493
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 7: team that people are two teams that people aren't talking about.

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Speaker 7: One is Houston. Houston's really really good.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 7: I love the way they defend. I still can't believe Houston,

497
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Speaker 7: the way they defend last year ended up squandering away

498
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Speaker 7: that national championship. Just wouldn't have thought that would happen.

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Speaker 7: With the way they play. I thought they would be

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Speaker 7: able to get through. But you know, you've probably got

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Speaker 7: a couple of teams that obviously people will consider Duke

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Speaker 7: and Yukon, But I'm going to go to a team

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Speaker 7: that's not even really in the top you know, they're

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Speaker 7: not in the top ten, the Florida Gators. I think

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Speaker 7: their front line, the way this team is playing, they

506
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Speaker 7: are just destroying opponents. I really like what the Gators

507
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Speaker 7: are doing. And if they got descent guards player, I

508
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 7: thought they would be an extremely dangerous team. And that's

509
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Speaker 7: where they're at at this point ten Now. They've lost

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Speaker 7: to Duke and Yukon back in December and back to

511
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Speaker 7: back games, and they've also lost to Arizona.

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Speaker 11: But I think this.

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Speaker 7: Team is completely different from where they were in November

514
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Speaker 7: and December. I think they're a team that can win

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Speaker 7: it all. So right there, for me, you're looking at

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Speaker 7: five teams so far Arizona, Michigan, Houston, Duke Yukon. Sorry,

517
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Speaker 7: six teams, Duke Yukon and Florida.

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Speaker 6: And then I.

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Speaker 7: Got to tell you, Bernie, I don't know who else

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Speaker 7: you have on your list in terms of the other

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Speaker 7: two teams, but I just don't really see anybody else

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Speaker 7: as a contender. I'm guessing you probably have the ALIGNI

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Speaker 7: and I don't.

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Speaker 2: Actually I don't, but I'll I'll tell you what. Let's

525
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: have a little song with the list. But I absolutely

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Speaker 2: have Florida on the list as a second tier sleeper.

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Speaker 2: But you bring up an excellent point. Okay, they're eleven

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00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: and one in their last twelve games, and they're not playing.

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Speaker 2: They've beat in Kentucky, Georgia, they had road victories at Vanderbilt, Texas,

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Speaker 2: A and M. And when they bring their best, they

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Speaker 2: are down right scary. The question is, in this day

532
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Speaker 2: and age, it's so hard to repeat them all. That's

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Speaker 2: my only caveat back up to Houston. I've got them

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Speaker 2: in my top five consistent high level defense, they're consistent performance.

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Speaker 2: You can get them at twelve to one right now. Now.

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Speaker 2: I've also got Yukon in my top five. We didn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you did mention them. They're twelve

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Speaker 2: to one.

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Speaker 7: Your thoughts about Yukon, you know you come the very

540
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Speaker 7: good team. The one thing I will tell you the

541
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Speaker 7: concerns you looks they're extremely experienced.

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Speaker 8: We know that.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's fun.

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Speaker 7: I was talking to a friend of mine and doesn't

545
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Speaker 7: follow college basketball closely. You know care Baron's there, he

546
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Speaker 7: goes what years that kuind of fifteenth year? You know,

547
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 7: players who play and are impactful in seasons. When you

548
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 7: see them win national championships, if they're they're more than

549
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 7: two three years, you'd think they're you know, thirty seven

550
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Speaker 7: years old and been around forever. But the thing with

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Speaker 7: Yukon to me is the league, the Big East is

552
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 7: so poor this year that they're just not being challenged

553
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Speaker 7: within their league. And I think that could hurt a

554
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 7: little bit when you when you look at Yukon's schedule,

555
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 7: they lost to Arizona on their home for it, They

556
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 7: beat Illinois that was a good win. They won at

557
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Speaker 7: Kansas and they beat Porta. So this is a team

558
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Speaker 7: that's played well when they needed to. But you got

559
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Speaker 7: to go back to December win last time they were tested.

560
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Speaker 7: You know the Big twelve. You go, Iowa State, Texas Tech, Houston, Arizona.

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Speaker 7: I mean you literally, over a month's schedule could play

562
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Speaker 7: four potential Final four teams. So it's a different dynamic there.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you I did not mention Texas Tech. I

564
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Speaker 7: think Texas Tech can be dangerous.

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Speaker 6: But Connecticut I'm not quite as high on them, but

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to discount them just simply because of

567
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 6: what Hurley's teams have accomplished. Now, They're not as dominant

568
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Speaker 6: as their second national championship team that went back to back,

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Speaker 6: the way they ran through the NCAA tournament, but this

570
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Speaker 6: team is one you got to watch out for.

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Speaker 7: It For me, Duken Yukon, I have them a shade

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Speaker 7: below Arizona, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Exactly where I am, all right, So wrapping it up

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Speaker 2: them all you've mentioned Florida, I'll give you three dark horses.

575
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Speaker 2: When push comes to shovel. Do I really think one

576
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Speaker 2: of these three will do it? Probably? Not, But it's Kansas,

577
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: Purdue and Arkansas. Again great high value betting odds. Arkansas

578
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: is a top tier condender. We know about Purdue. You

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Speaker 2: got a coach Gene Keaty, who's you know, he's not

580
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: there anymore. But they got a court named after me.

581
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Speaker 2: They never made a Final four. So Kansas, though, showed

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Speaker 2: me something the other day. If they can play every

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Speaker 2: one of their games at home, they probably would win

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. But you can't. So those three dark

585
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Speaker 2: horses and anybody did I leave anybody else out? No?

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Speaker 6: I love you. I love your addition there in your

587
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 6: list of Arkansas. I think they're extremely dangerous. People aren't

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Speaker 6: talking about the Razorbacks. They're playing really, really well. They're

589
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Speaker 6: getting better and better as a season progressors. I really

590
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Speaker 6: like the Razorbacks. That's a good call on your part.

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Speaker 6: And then I think Perdue I just completely forgot about,

592
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Speaker 6: even though in the season before the season started they

593
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Speaker 6: were one of the prohibitive favorites. I think they become

594
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Speaker 6: extremely dangerous as you go down the stretch.

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Speaker 7: I like that call on Purdue there. I tend to agree.

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Speaker 7: I just don't think Kansas could get it done.

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Speaker 5: But I agree with the.

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Speaker 7: Teams you have on your list there. I think the

599
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Speaker 7: only team that I would probably say no on is KU.

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Speaker 7: But if Peterson were focused, any plays and the team

601
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Speaker 7: can kind of gel over the next few weeks through

602
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Speaker 7: the Big Twelve Conference tournament, they could be one that's

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Speaker 7: extremely dangerous, battle tested in that league. I mean, I

604
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Speaker 7: think about this.

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Speaker 6: I know Arizona's going to fall out of the top spot,

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Speaker 6: but coming into this week alone, you had three to

607
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Speaker 6: top five teams in the country from the Big Twelve

608
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Speaker 6: Arizona one, Houston three, Iowa State five. This is the

609
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Speaker 6: league where you're battle tested. So I think your list

610
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 6: overall is very good.

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Speaker 7: That Houston play at twelve to one, I think is

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Speaker 7: one where you can get your most value. I think

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Speaker 7: the Cougar teams that extremely dangerous. Kingston Flemings. I love

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Speaker 7: the way this kid plays and just his just his demeanor,

615
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Speaker 7: and then of course you jam with a ton of

616
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Speaker 7: experience Sharp and company with her last year, Houston is

617
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Speaker 7: gonna be a tough out in the tournament once again.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, if I had a gun in my head,

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Speaker 2: I really like Kelvin Samson. I always have their defense

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Speaker 2: travels and they came all so close last year. I

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Speaker 2: was in Houston actually when that game is going on,

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Speaker 2: and I said, they're gonna do it, They're gonna and

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Speaker 2: then we saw what happened. So Aamal great Stuff has

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Speaker 2: always loved to get you on when March madness is

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Speaker 2: right around the corner and get your take, appreciate all your.

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Speaker 7: Candor thanks burning always appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That is a mall Shaw. Follow him on

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Speaker 2: Twitter at Amal Shaw. One coming up, we have three

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Speaker 2: fun topics during the midnight hour. Nothing too serious tonight,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a little fun. Here's a teaser. Nothing

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Speaker 2: And by the way, if you want to rant, fair enough.

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Speaker 2: If you don't like the three topics, you can bring

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Speaker 2: a rant, but we'll do that coming up. And again,

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Speaker 2: nothing are shattering, but these topics actually are thought provoking.

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Speaker 2: So I want to hear what people have to say

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Speaker 2: serious answers. And of course, as you know, we are

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Speaker 2: nineteen minutes away from the midnight hour here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: What do I mean by that? It turns the clock

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Speaker 2: strikes twelve midnight literally here in Las Vegas, but we

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Speaker 2: call it the mid that hour because figuratively, no matter

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Speaker 2: because that's a figurative way for saying you get the

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Speaker 2: last word. We'll set those topics coming up. I'm Bernie Frattle.

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Speaker 2: We're coming to your line from the Las Vegas Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios. Don't go away. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fratter Show.

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Speaker 2: All right back at the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: twelve minutes away from the midnight hour, twelve midnight here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, literally figuratively the midnight hour around the world.

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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven nine nine six six three six nine

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Get those fingers

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Speaker 2: warmed up, looking forward to hearing from you. Callers have

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Speaker 2: been fantastic. We've been doing this a couple of years now,

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Speaker 2: seems to get better and better. All right tonight, we

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Speaker 2: keep it a little light but still thought provoking, and

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Speaker 2: the theme is Names in the News, Big Names in

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Speaker 2: the News. Randy Moss was in the news this past

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Speaker 2: week he made some statements and given the recent Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame voting induction snubs. However, wherever you sit on this,

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Speaker 2: it's the subject of intense debate, and it's always been

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Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball. You know, we've beaten the Pete

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Speaker 2: Rose thing to death, the steroids thing to death. Pretty

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Speaker 2: much everybody in basketball gets in and no one cares

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Speaker 2: about the NHL Hall of Fame. Now, I know that's

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Speaker 2: not fair, but no one talks about it but the

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Speaker 2: NFL Major league. But let's stick with the NFL because

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Speaker 2: the question of whether or not only players should vote

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Speaker 2: on Hall of Fame inductions is now becoming somewhat of

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Speaker 2: a debate. Okay, Randy Moss basically said only players should

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Speaker 2: be allowed to vote. There are arguments for it. Players

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Speaker 2: have a unique perspective, they have a depth a knowledge,

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Speaker 2: they have first hand experience, they've competed against or coached

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Speaker 2: against other candidates. They believe they're best qualified to judge

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Speaker 2: the impact on the game. And there's a perception that

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Speaker 2: some media voters use their ballots to settle grudges. I

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Speaker 2: believe there's some truth to that. On the other hand,

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Speaker 2: there's arguments against player only voting, Okay, conflict of ters.

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Speaker 2: Players might vote based on personal friendships or loyalty, recency bias,

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Speaker 2: players can prioritize teammates. And the other thing is maybe

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Speaker 2: not complete knowledge. The one thing of some media members

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Speaker 2: and historians have is maybe a more broader sense and

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Speaker 2: statistically driven view of the player's entire body of work.

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Speaker 2: All right, And this is born of the controversy recently,

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Speaker 2: and again it's extends to baseball as well because of

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Speaker 2: the continued debate over the steroid era, et cetera and

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Speaker 2: the ten player ballot limit. So we'd like to get

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on that. Should only players be able to vote?

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Speaker 2: Dean Sanders is in the news this week. He said

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Speaker 2: not no, hell no. Dean Sanders emphatically stated he will

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Speaker 2: never coach in the NFL period, setting quote the bull

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Speaker 2: junk and unfair treatment that his son should do experienced

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Speaker 2: what transpired, as he said during the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: NFL drop process and his subsequent rookie season. I want

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Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on that. Okay, was Shador really

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Speaker 2: treated poorly and sabotaged? Last I checked, he got a

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Speaker 2: six million dollar contract played in ten games. Can you

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Speaker 2: imagine if he'd done what Tyler Schuck had done, he'd

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Speaker 2: probably they probably haven't the Ring of Honor in Cleveland already.

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Speaker 2: He's already in the Ring of Honor Chicago for going

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Speaker 2: thirteen and twelve. On the other hand, he was projected

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Speaker 2: as a top pick, but not by any NFL person

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Speaker 2: I know that was. But when he fell in the

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Speaker 2: fifth round, Dion felt that was a very unjust situation. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I want to give you to a credit for one thing,

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Speaker 2: because I remember with that load in the shorts, Josh

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Speaker 2: Rosen went off when he was he fell to ninth,

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Speaker 2: He's gonna prove everybody wrong. He stunk in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, he didn't exactly light it up

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Speaker 2: at UCLA. If you go back and look at the

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Speaker 2: numbers I've given him before. Should never really said anything.

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Speaker 2: He just kind of put his head down. I'm not

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Speaker 2: really a should do a fan, but I don't root

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Speaker 2: against him either. But he didn't complain about dropping the

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Speaker 2: fifth because I'm going to make the most of my opportunity.

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Speaker 2: In many ways I think he did. I have not

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Speaker 2: bought him to the fact that as he major League quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yet he can still prove me wrong and still early.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think I'm wrong on these things very often.

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Speaker 2: But let's see, the question, is Dion really believes what

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Speaker 2: based on what transpired Shador Sanders was truly you know, Sabat,

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Speaker 2: that's not the right word. That's not what he said.

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Speaker 2: He just didn't like what transpires. So he says he

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Speaker 2: would never ever, ever ever coach in the NFL. So

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Speaker 2: number one, we've got, you know, Randy Moss. Should players

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Speaker 2: only be allowed to vote in the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: Dion will never never coach in the NFL. The third one, now, look,

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Speaker 2: this is a hypothetical, but it came up this week

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Speaker 2: and the world is a vexing enough place. Without wasting time,

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Speaker 2: I'm on hypotheticals, but we're gonna have some fun with

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Speaker 2: this one. Just be as honest as you can. Let's say, hypothetically,

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Speaker 2: this is Lebron's last season in the NBA, which we

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Speaker 2: both know it's not. It's not. I don't know when

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Speaker 2: he's gonna leave. But in alf this year, JJ Reddick

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Speaker 2: said it. He said Bronni earned it. He said it. No,

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Speaker 2: he earned it. Okay, So if hypothetically, lebron this wore

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Speaker 2: his last season in the NBA. Would Bronni be on

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Speaker 2: the Lakers roster in twenty twenty six, twenty seven? You

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Speaker 2: tell me we got Randy Moss. Only players can vote

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Speaker 2: on Hall of Fame Dion Sanders not no hell, No

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Speaker 2: one ever coached me and I fell and look the

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Speaker 2: way they treated my son in three if bron were

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Speaker 2: to retire, would Brownie be on the Lakers next year?

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Speaker 2: JJ Reddick said he earned it eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 2: nine six six three six nine eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 2: to nine on Fox. Doll him up, Let's get it going.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fradle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It is time, in fact for the midnight hour. That's true.

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Speaker 2: And you heard the man that Bernie Founers show. Keeps

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Speaker 2: were rolling right along and phone lines are jams, so

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Speaker 2: we're going to get right to it. The midnight hour

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Speaker 2: is upon us. Randy Moss said it. Only players should

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Speaker 2: vote on Hall of Fame inductions. There are arguments for

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Speaker 2: they believe they have certain insights and situations as a

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Speaker 2: result of them playing and competing on the field. They

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Speaker 2: don't have a media bias on the other hand, there

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Speaker 2: could be a conflict of interest. Number two. Dion blew

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Speaker 2: up this week said hey, I'll never coach in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: not know, no way, no how hell no, not no,

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Speaker 2: hell no whatever because of the way of what transpired

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Speaker 2: with shudor was he really mistreated that badly when you

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Speaker 2: add it all up, and then finally JJ Reddick said

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Speaker 2: it he earned it so hypothetically, And I know the

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Speaker 2: world was a vexing enough place without your time in hypotheticals.

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Speaker 2: But if hypothetically Lebron retired after this year, we know

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Speaker 2: he's not, would Bronnie have a spot on the Lakers

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Speaker 2: next year? J? J. Reddick said, he Aaron did, it's

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Speaker 2: time for the been that hour and we go out

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Speaker 2: to Chris in the Queens City of Cincinnati. Welcome in, Chris, how.

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Speaker 11: Are you hey?

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Speaker 10: How's it going?

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Speaker 2: Good man?

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Speaker 13: I just want to say something about Lebron James Personally,

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Speaker 13: I don't think he's a very good humming. But anyway,

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Speaker 13: if he played back in the nineties when Charles Barkley

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Speaker 13: was under the ram and everything, he wouldn't.

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Speaker 6: Have no point.

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Speaker 13: He would be a nobody. And he was saying that

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Speaker 13: earlier talking about nineties team the Jordan stuff. If these

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Speaker 13: people got that, he got under the rim, he wouldn't

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Speaker 13: get under the ram. But anyway, I hope to take

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Speaker 13: Big Mallards place because you're good sports cancer.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Well, I appreciate you checking in if you would

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Speaker 2: be so kind to dive into these three because I

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Speaker 2: want I don't want to short shrift anybody, but I

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Speaker 2: really want to get these topics. Thanks, Chris, are you there?

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Speaker 2: What happened? We lose Chris? Oh shucks, Chris? Is that

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Speaker 2: all you had? Okay? Well, call back in if you like.

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Speaker 2: Kyle in Vegas?

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Speaker 14: Hey, Kyle, where you been bud uh celebrating my birthday?

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Speaker 14: You don't want to make it for birthday, Kyle. I

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Speaker 14: appreciate it. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I thought I saw you at Chuck E Cheese earlier.

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Speaker 14: Hey, I'll hope you and your wife had a beautiful valun.

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Speaker 2: Finer we did man good good gifts, so good stuff.

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Speaker 5: Good good good.

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Speaker 14: Really quick off topic the NBA this weekend. They should

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Speaker 14: just go ahead and just give these guys to ten

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Speaker 14: days off. Not scheduling the games just wasn't rest If

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Speaker 14: we're going to get this is a guy that can't

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Speaker 14: even play a game is when three point contest no

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Speaker 14: namers are in the dunk contest doing stuff that we've

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Speaker 14: already seen before and it's just it's just trash.

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Speaker 2: Play.

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Speaker 14: I got you, uh great opening monologue, by the way,

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Speaker 14: First things first, Randy most I agree. We have so

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Speaker 14: many guys that are politically biased and if you don't

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Speaker 14: stand or align with what they feel in the media,

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Speaker 14: or you portrayed yourself to a certain degree in the media,

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Speaker 14: like the last callers just said, Lebron James is probably

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Speaker 14: a horrible human being, but he's going to get into

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Speaker 14: the Hall of Fame. But there will be you know,

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Speaker 14: sports writers, beach riders that are going to say no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 14: he shouldn't get in.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, leave it to the.

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Speaker 14: Players, the professionals who played the sport, who know what's

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Speaker 14: going on, the analytics or analytics, and you're because you

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00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 14: write something on paper doesn't mean that you actually live

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Speaker 14: to play the sport. Dion does kind of have a point,

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Speaker 14: but sir, your son is the last thing joke of

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Speaker 14: the NFL, like Lebron James Junior is to the NBA.

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Speaker 14: I'm sorry if it wasn't for your name, your son

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Speaker 14: probably would have been drafted a little bit higher. But

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Speaker 14: because of your attitude, your arrogance, your ignorance, and your airness,

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Speaker 14: you feel like it was owed to you. So no

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Speaker 14: nobody owes you anything.

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Speaker 5: Missus d R.

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Speaker 14: Sanders, please stay where you are because you said that

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Speaker 14: you was gonna say Colorado to the Promince plan and

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Speaker 14: you haven't done nothing since. And then, lastly, Lebron James Junior, Oh,

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Speaker 14: my goodness, the dumpster fire of a kid that shouldn't

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Speaker 14: be in the NBA. He shouldn't probably have ever played

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Speaker 14: college ball either. He's not good enough for college. He's

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Speaker 14: not good enough for the NBA. Hack sent him over

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Speaker 14: to Madrid. Let him play over there in that league

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Speaker 14: and see if he can come back a little bit tougher.

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Speaker 14: He might actually become a basketball player. Bernie has always

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Speaker 14: loved the show. Thanks you, giving me a couple extra

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Speaker 14: seconds of time in for you.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, k good stuff and bringing receipts and just

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Speaker 2: ever so quickly, when Dion burst upon the scene and

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Speaker 2: they beat TCUs a twenty point underdog back in September

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, there were real high hopes. Since then,

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Speaker 2: he's one to nine against top ten competition and under

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Speaker 2: five hundred. And I got to tell you, Christian Fourier

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Speaker 2: came off the top rope kind of ripped in this

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00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: week about a lot of flash, not a lot of substance,

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Speaker 2: but conversation for a different day. I like Dion, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Uh, Jim in Massachusetts baton third tonight, buddy,

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Speaker 2: you're up?

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Speaker 6: Okay, I got four tonight, Bernie number one. I agree

859
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 6: with Moss. The player should vote. Look what happened to Belichick.

860
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 6: The only reason he didn't get in. It's because he

861
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 6: didn't do good press conferences and he disdained those people,

862
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 6: despise those people. So that's the issue there. I believe

863
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 6: players ought to pick leave the press out of it.

864
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 8: Dion.

865
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 6: I like Dion. I mean his ego, if he has

866
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 6: a chance to coaching the NFL, he's got to coach

867
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 6: in the NFL. I mean, his personal ego is way

868
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 6: above you know, everything else.

869
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: And I thought Jim, because Schador was you know, drafted,

870
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: he got six million dollars, he played in ten games,

871
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: he's even made the Pro Bowl. And oh, by the way,

872
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: can you imagine if he'd done what Tyler Shuck had done,

873
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: they'd probably give him a ring of honor in Cleveland.

874
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: So was he really treated that badly?

875
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 6: No, not at all. I mean that's again, now we're

876
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 6: back to the sports people, the rioters doing all this stuff.

877
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 6: I don't think he's treated that badly. But you know, Dion,

878
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 6: he's gonna end up in the in the NFL coach

879
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 6: in the subday. You watch and the third thing out

880
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 6: of my four is, uh, Bronny, No way is he

881
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 6: the minute.

882
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 11: He won't even be on the plane out of town.

883
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 6: Lebron and Bronnie will be cleaning out his locker, and JJ.

884
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 14: Reddick who cares what he has to say?

885
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 11: Look at how the lake of the plane.

886
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 8: What does he know?

887
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 11: I mean, how was a stupid move. I don't like

888
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 11: that guy anyway.

889
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 6: So the more they crash and burn, the more I

890
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 6: like it about the Wakers.

891
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 14: Now, what happened to your patriots there?

892
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 8: Buddy?

893
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: You called it. I said, I'd give you your flowers. Now,

894
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 2: look I know it, rible brother. Hold on there, fella,

895
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: The standalone three turnovers led to seventeen points. And I

896
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: know that sounds convenient, but that matters. And so it

897
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: appeared early on Seata was winning the line of scrimmage.

898
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: I think the three turnovers were in the We're very

899
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: much the reason that the Patriots lost and lost by

900
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: the Martin He didn't. But regardless, you were right. The

901
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: Patriots just were. Eventually they were going to be out

902
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: it than they were.

903
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 6: And they were, and they were, and everybody talking about

904
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 6: around here.

905
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 11: You sure I heard.

906
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 6: That Drake may MVP and all this. Andre called into

907
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 6: Ben Maller the other night. I was driving to work.

908
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 6: I almost crashed going off the road, loudly praying shoulder.

909
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 11: He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Ben, go yeah yeah.

910
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 11: He'll be selling insurance in for you.

911
00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: I don't know about all that.

912
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 6: I don't know.

913
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: Look, you know, I gotta tell you. You know that. Okay,

914
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: fair enough, but I don't agree with that. All I

915
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: love Ben uh professionally and personally, I don't agree with that.

916
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 2: This kid can play a little bit. Okay, it wasn't

917
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: a fluke what he did this year and a paging

918
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: match Stafford against Carolina against Seattle twice, you know, and

919
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter and on third nine when it

920
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 2: kind of mattered, well, they didn't get home field advantage

921
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: and that cost him a chance to go to the

922
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, So you were right one hundred percent to

923
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: do any would eventually be exposed. But I think we're

924
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: dising Drake May a little bit too much.

925
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 6: This kid missed open people, overthrow them, under throw them

926
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 6: all game long. He had his chances to complete move

927
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 6: and he just couldn't do it.

928
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: And the kid was in high school, you know, recently. Okay, Okay, look, wait, wait,

929
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: jam we got to keep it real here. Okay, do

930
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 2: you have a personal dislike for Drake Mays? Is this personal?

931
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: H No, I'm just going because he did enough this

932
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: year to not look as nearly as badly. I what

933
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: happened in the Super Bowl, I get it, and we

934
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: don't know how hurt he was. I'm not going to

935
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: enter that into.

936
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 8: It, Bernie.

937
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 11: We'll leave it like this.

938
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 6: They're gonna have the second toughest scheduled next year. They're

939
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 6: not even going to play eight to eight. And I'll

940
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 6: talk to you when it comes to playoff time next

941
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 6: year about Drake.

942
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: That's fair good, not going. Just remember, Jim. The thing

943
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: I like about this segment is the most boring conversations

944
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: when everybody agrees. So let's see what happens. Let's see

945
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: what happens.

946
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 11: You've got a back case of patriot itis.

947
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: I know no I could give, I could give flying horses.

948
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 2: But two, I bet the first half hunder for a lot,

949
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: and I bet the Patriots plus four and a half

950
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 2: for a little. And it was not one of Drake

951
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: May's finer moments. But I'm not ready to you know, throw,

952
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: you know, put him in Red Clock's territory. If you

953
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: get my drift, Jim, great stuff as always, man, anything else, okay, good?

954
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 11: No, I just wanted to bust you on the Patriots

955
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 11: a little bit better?

956
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: All good, I said. I said I'd take it. I'd

957
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: take a kick to the nuts. I got no problem

958
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 2: with that. They lost. You know, I'm not like I'm like, thanks,

959
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 2: you appreciate you. I'm not like you. Remember that scene

960
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: in Monty Python where they get into the sword fight.

961
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: The guy chops his arms off and chops his legs off.

962
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: Get back over here. We'll call it a draw. Yeah,

963
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: not so much, okay. Seattle Road in New England like

964
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: a stick horse period. Jeff and dev what's up?

965
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 10: Jeff, welcome in, Hey, Bernie, how's it gone?

966
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: Good man?

967
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 11: Hey?

968
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 10: The first topic I'm a little torn as the right.

969
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 10: The way they're doing it now, they look at the

970
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 10: game differently, they get different camera, they watch it on TV,

971
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 10: and then the players are.

972
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 15: On the field.

973
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 10: So if they could do something like a seventy player

974
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 10: vote and then twenty five percent the other vote, that

975
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 10: would be good. But I don't know if you should

976
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 10: just do all player votes.

977
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: See I like that idea. Incorporate the player angle and

978
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 2: wait it with an algorithm and allow the writers. I

979
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: think something like that along those lines might make sense. Yeah,

980
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: that would be a.

981
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 5: That would be a true.

982
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 10: Analysis, I think, all right.

983
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: Second topic, was Dion Sen really treated that poorly?

984
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 10: I think he got shafted just because of the name issue.

985
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 10: I think the dude is.

986
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 5: A good player.

987
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 10: He played pretty well at Colorado and just really didn't

988
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 10: get a fair shake, so to speak.

989
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: Playing ten games this year. How did not get a

990
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: fair shake?

991
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 10: Well, no, he did finally, But leading up to that

992
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 10: is what I'm.

993
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: Saying, because their skouted department didn't have me. It was

994
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: all a false narrative, Jeff, this guy was not a

995
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: first round talent. He didn't have the first round superpower,

996
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: and yet he got six mands started in ten games

997
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: and showed enough to be you know, in the depth

998
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: chart for next year. I don't know what they want

999
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 2: to do with this. What are we doing? Go ahead,

1000
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: you got the last word, Jeff.

1001
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 15: Well, I just I just think initially the whole name

1002
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 15: thing did get it, you know, more than it should have.

1003
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 15: Some the individual talent that the whole browny thing. No,

1004
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 15: that dude averaging four and a half porns in college

1005
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 15: would not even have been on anyone's radar to even

1006
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 15: be drafted. He would not have been drafted at all

1007
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 15: if he didn't have the last name.

1008
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get all that. It's just say, these words

1009
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: are going to come back to haunt jj Red. He

1010
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: said he earned it. So if it's all hypothetical anyway,

1011
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: because Lebron ain't going anywhere for a long time.

1012
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 10: But he wouldn't even have been there. But he wouldn't

1013
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 10: even have been there if Lebron didn't make them pick him.

1014
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: I know, it's it's a lame There might be a

1015
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: lame topic on my part. I've just waiting for the

1016
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: one call to come in and say, well, Bronnie plays

1017
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: pretty good defense. Maybe there's a role for That's why

1018
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: we have this segment. We don't all have to agree, Jeff,

1019
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: good stuff. Buddy has always appreciate you. Man Tim in

1020
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: Long Island, welcome in. Is this your first call the

1021
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show. It's not.

1022
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 10: Actually, we talked about.

1023
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: All the argument.

1024
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 11: Not some pequal before I do it.

1025
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: Okay, my bad, I'm welcome back in glad to have you.

1026
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 9: I'm Ronnie now doesn't deserve to be in the league

1027
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 9: at all. On the NFL, let's be honest. I think

1028
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 9: a fifty to fifty deal with media and players would

1029
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 9: work best.

1030
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 8: And three the.

1031
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 9: Sanders situation. Hey, he played ten games, as he said,

1032
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 9: he made a nice money. He made nice money. And

1033
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 9: the truth is he's gonna be in the league next year,

1034
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 9: in a few weeks, a few years after that. Ye

1035
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 9: treated fine, Let's do it this way. He wasn't drafted

1036
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 9: by the Jets here them so so the only thing

1037
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 9: I'm going to add to this is the fact that

1038
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 9: he named some teams who to win the NCIA. I'll

1039
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 9: give you a dark doork horse at Saint John's.

1040
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: Really it's tough.

1041
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 9: They Michigan to overtime and exhibition I lost of Iowa

1042
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,479
Speaker 9: was saved by one on neutral Court.

1043
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. Appreciate you, Tim, Thanks for checking in

1044
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: the men. That hour is going to continue, Andre in Massachusetts.

1045
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: You hang in there and we'll get right to you.

1046
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: You're going to be up next. Really looking forward to

1047
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: what you got to say. I have to throw this

1048
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: in here and interject this at the risk of signing

1049
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: defensive There was a quarterback on the National Football League

1050
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: this past year who threw for forty four hundred yards.

1051
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: That was good enough for four thirty one touchdowns only

1052
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: eight picks, had a one to fourteen passer rating a

1053
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 2: seventy seven QBR, completed seventy two percent of his passes.

1054
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 2: That's not Chop Liver. His name was Drake May. We'll

1055
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: see how he follows up next year. But having you know,

1056
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: been around Stafford his early years and a lot of

1057
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 2: other guys who come into the league with high hopes,

1058
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 2: get it. The Super Bowl was not his finest moment.

1059
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: I get it, And there's no guarantee what happens next year.

1060
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 2: But to implan that May didn't have a high level

1061
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: performance in twenty twenty five, I think is is journalistically

1062
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: dishonest eight seven, seven nine nine six six three sixty

1063
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: nine eighty seven, seven ninety nine one Fox. We want

1064
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 2: to hear from you the midnight hour. Andre in Massachusetts,

1065
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: you are up next. Keep it locked right here. You

1066
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: listen to the Bernie fraddle Show.

1067
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: On don't listen, he no, Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1068
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: All right, we're back on the Bernie Fraddile Show Fox

1069
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. The Midnight Hour continues, rocking and rolling off

1070
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: to a great start. Andre in Massachusetts, you are up next.

1071
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: Welcome in, buddy, Thanks for your patience.

1072
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 14: How you doing, Bernie, Thank you doing well?

1073
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 16: Thank you well listen.

1074
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 17: Uh, mister Randy Moss, absolutely not. We cannot have the

1075
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 17: players deciding who goes in to Canton, Ohio, that most

1076
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 17: venerated of institutions. We see, we see what's happening, Bernie. Right,

1077
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 17: what are these guys going to do to get an

1078
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 17: invite to the Super Bowl party?

1079
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 18: Huh?

1080
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 17: All of the grandstanding and carrying on. You know it's

1081
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 17: a fraternity and you're not objective. So no, we need

1082
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 17: objective journalists, people that are going to look at the

1083
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 17: numbers concisely, soberly and make and make sound decisions like

1084
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 17: the Baseball Hall of Fame. Frankly, I'll give the Football

1085
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 17: Hall of fame. They're still hanging on baseball, by.

1086
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: The way, Just for what it's worth, the key word

1087
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: there is objectively, and I think Darren lines the essence

1088
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: behind why we're having this conversation because having been in

1089
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: the billions gazillion press boxes over the last thirty plus

1090
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: years and interacting with some of these knuckleheads, a lot

1091
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: of times are not objective at all. So that's just

1092
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: my two cents. Continue on.

1093
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 17: Yes, great players don't always make great coaches, and they

1094
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 17: certainly don't make great journalists.

1095
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 10: You know, the d's decisions NBA.

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00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 17: You know, we got Doc Rivers now talking about he

1097
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 17: wants into the NBA Hall of Fame. Absolute participation trophy, nonsense,

1098
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 17: and it undermines the integrity of the sport. It means something.

1099
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 17: Hall of Fame's means something. And so it's not a

1100
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 17: hall of it's not a hall of friends.

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00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 14: It's a hall of fame.

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00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 17: Now listen, in terms of mister Deon Sanders, stop it, okay,

1103
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 17: stop it with the witch hunt, you know, relative dishador

1104
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 17: and how the NFL was out for him and all

1105
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 17: the rest of that stuff. The only thing that happened

1106
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 17: is he didn't get the all star red carpet treatment

1107
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 17: that Dion Sanders himself deserves being based on being a

1108
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 17: generational player. Okay, but your progeny is not going to

1109
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 17: get that type of treatment unless they produce equal to you,

1110
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 17: and that's not the case. Chador is not Deon, so

1111
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 17: he's going to be treated like And this is going

1112
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 17: to tie into the last point with Bronnie, all right,

1113
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 17: So there is no conspiracy relative to Shador. And as

1114
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 17: the other callers said, if Jerry Jones being Jerry Jones

1115
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 17: comes and gives Deanna back coming coach to Cowboys to

1116
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,959
Speaker 17: take the circus to untold levels, because that's what it's about,

1117
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 17: Dallas is about the circus, most profitable franchise on the

1118
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 17: face of the planet. They're not about winning there about

1119
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 17: the circus. If Jerry Jermes comes.

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00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 10: To the bag and gone, he's gone.

1121
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 17: And by the way, that was a huge win against TTU.

1122
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 6: I was pulling for him.

1123
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Speaker 17: But this is a guy that they're talking about. He

1124
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 17: doesn't like to recruit, he doesn't like to get in

1125
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 17: a private jet and do the work to roll up

1126
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 17: his sleeves. Okay, so as a coach, Dean, I'm pulling

1127
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 17: for you. But you got some things to do in

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00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 17: terms to get.

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00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 11: To the high level.

1130
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 17: It's not just about being prime time wearing a cowboy

1131
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 17: hat and the glasses and all the show. You got

1132
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 17: to get in there and enroll your sleezer. Last point

1133
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 17: with Brian and James the calls and said it right,

1134
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 17: he deserves the spot, Bernie. We need Briany to have

1135
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 17: a spot on a practice squad. That's Lebrodon needs to be.

1136
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 2: He needs to be a practical You know, the reason

1137
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: I brought that up, Andre is because JJ Reddick said

1138
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: it very emphatically, vehemently in a press conference. He earned it.

1139
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 2: So if what if Lebron's not there next year, is

1140
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: he gonna earn his roster spot?

1141
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 16: Your dog one? Right?

1142
00:59:58,640 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 8: He better?

1143
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 17: He better, he better find a red box or he

1144
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 17: better go on to streaming and find Rudy. We can't

1145
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 17: find that blockbuster like we did in a good old day,

1146
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 17: but you better find Rudy and sit down and watch it.

1147
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 17: And that's how we're getting on the team. The only

1148
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 17: ways get on the team. Okay, you better get in

1149
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 17: there and get on that practice squad and take them in.

1150
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: Okay.

1151
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 17: Otherwise, Ronnie, welcome to the podcast.

1152
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 16: World.

1153
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 17: You know what I mean, whatever you're gonna do, we's

1154
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 17: gonna work for Clutch for.

1155
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: I have an idea, Andre, maybe he could. Maybe they

1156
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: could remake the movie The Fish You Save Pittsburgh and

1157
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: Bronnie James could be in it.

1158
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 5: Let him be in.

1159
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 17: Okay, But in terms of his future in the NBA

1160
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 17: as a player of his own volition, of his own right,

1161
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 17: maybe he wants to go with Lebron. It looks like

1162
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 17: he's heading back to Cleveland, you know, for the for

1163
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 17: the victory lap in his last year and the whole.

1164
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 17: You know, that would be a good storyline. Go with

1165
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 17: Lebron and you know, but on his own merits, and

1166
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 17: there's nothing against the kid. He seems to be a

1167
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 17: good kid, you know, well man, but we're talking about

1168
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 17: professional sports and he's not cut from that cloth and

1169
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 17: it's nothing against him. You know, So practice squad fine,

1170
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 17: but that aside, get the podcast. Be a successful businessman,

1171
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 17: bernt to your parents' money. Have a good life, Bernnie,

1172
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 17: LEBRONI games, Friddie. Thanks, let's taking a call, have good.

1173
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: Thanks andder appreciate you man. Follow that up with our

1174
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: good man from Orange, California, Martin Hey, Martin, Welcome back

1175
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: in Bud Bernie, Thank you, greedys and salutations.

1176
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 16: Now, Randy Musk got it right, man. These players, the

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01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 16: players that played with these guys, they're the ones who

1178
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 16: should vote. Anyone who says any different. I don't know.

1179
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 16: I agree with one of your colors that he said,

1180
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 16: maybe the it should be like a splip player and reporter.

1181
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,959
Speaker 16: I got another one. How about the fans also a third,

1182
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 16: a third and the third and we get those guys

1183
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 16: in Shador Sanderson. Just I was you, Alo was my dad.

1184
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 16: I'd have to tell him, bro just be quiet. Let

1185
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 16: me works.

1186
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 4: Looking what I've done so far. Yeah, I don't have accolades.

1187
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 4: I'm not a Hall of Famer, but I'm my own man.

1188
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 4: Let me succeed on my own. I don't need your help.

1189
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 16: Thank you, Dad for what you've done.

1190
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: But that's it.

1191
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 16: And it would be the same with Bronnie. Like I

1192
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 16: got a little different take because I like Bronnie. She

1193
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 16: the kid almost died. It's Richmond years.

1194
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: Hey, we can hold two thoughts concurrently, Hang on March,

1195
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: stay right there, Martin. I'm sorry, we can hold two

1196
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: thoughts concurrently. From my vantage point, Brownie has done nothing

1197
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: except conduct himself in a very dignified manner, a humble manner, polite,

1198
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: professional manner. It's not my fault he's not an NBA player,

1199
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: But the rest of it, I think he checks all

1200
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: the boxes. Seems like a really good, really good dude.

1201
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 16: I completely agree with you, Bernie, And this is the problem.

1202
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 16: He should have stayed at ACAS for three more years.

1203
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: Well you know the problem with that, Martin. He averages

1204
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: fourteen minutes a game and averages a single single and

1205
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: the whole world realizes, wait a minute, what you You

1206
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: really can't draft this guy? Now? What are we doing here?

1207
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: They had to get out go ahead. Well, I don't

1208
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: know if he almost died, he had a heart issue.

1209
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: He came back from it strongly. And I think we

1210
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: need standalone Mark because I think people will the innocent

1211
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 2: bystanders need to understand, just because we mentioned this, it

1212
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: is nothing personal with Bronnie. You can hold two thoughts concurrently,

1213
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 2: JJ Reddicks said he earned it. Now we both know

1214
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: lebron you know isn't going to retire for two or

1215
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: three more decades. But if he did, hypothetically, would Bronnie

1216
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: still be there? JJ Reddick said he earned it. That's it.

1217
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 2: You don't worry.

1218
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 16: Once again.

1219
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 5: Once again.

1220
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 16: I don't think he earned it exactly. I don't know

1221
01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 16: why Reddick would see that, you know what. He may

1222
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 16: have said it because he thinks he deserves me.

1223
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 17: The head coach of the Lakers here.

1224
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: Has vote for next year. Gee, we're gonna find out.

1225
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 2: There's an old saying, there's an old singing, Martney. If

1226
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: you get a job as a lifeguard, you may stroll

1227
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: in there and look like an Adonis and talk the

1228
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: walk and walk the talk, and act apart and let

1229
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: one of these days someone's gonna be in the pool drowning,

1230
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: and you gotta jump in, and the whole world's gonna

1231
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: see if you can't swim. What are you think you

1232
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 2: got the last word, Martin.

1233
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 14: Let me let me leave you with this, Bernie.

1234
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 16: It's kind of off topic, but it's right on topic.

1235
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 16: This country needs a change.

1236
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 14: And I see stephen A.

1237
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 16: Smith may be running for president, and I got one loat.

1238
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 16: I'm putting it to stephen A.

1239
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: St and least set Bernie Fredo.

1240
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 19: Daddy.

1241
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: I love you Bernie, all right, Martin. If we get elected,

1242
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: we'll do our best to fix all the popoles how's that?

1243
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: How's that? First start? Ross and Saint Petersburg. Thanks so

1244
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: much for your patience. Welcome in. Is this your first

1245
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 2: time calling the Bernie Final Show?

1246
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 5: It is my first time welcome in, welcome call, Thank.

1247
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 19: You, bro.

1248
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 5: I mean I'll keep it short on Brownie.

1249
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: No, take your time. We got a leak. We're good,

1250
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: go ahead, bet a rip?

1251
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 5: No, I got another point. I'm Brownie all today. Future

1252
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 5: G League dropout wouldn't even make the Gwandan tires. That's

1253
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 5: all I really had to say about that guy. What

1254
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 5: I got to rebuke you on is your earlier point

1255
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 5: about a certain schedule. Merchant who may have thrown for

1256
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 5: four thousand yards, may have thrown for forty touchdowns, But

1257
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 5: it's the AFC. Like, let's be honest here, there's still

1258
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 5: the NFL.

1259
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: My friend, I covered the Lions for ten years.

1260
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 11: It's still the NFL.

1261
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 5: But I mean, since they moved to seventeen games, it

1262
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 5: used to be easy with sixteen.

1263
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 6: You're either eight and eight or you're under that.

1264
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 5: But I mean, to me, eight is the brometer of

1265
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 5: that team. May eight wins, you know, you might have

1266
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 5: been all attacked AFC had seventeen seventeen under eight wins

1267
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 5: the NFC five. What is the biggest dumpster fire in

1268
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 5: the NFC? Maybe the car And can you really argue that?

1269
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 5: I mean, with the whole Colin Murray, they are backup

1270
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 5: like they're nothing compared to think about all the most

1271
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 5: notoriously bad teams right now in the NFL.

1272
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: Fair enough, This is why I like this segment. Brossity

1273
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: and don't be a stranger, because the most boring calls

1274
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 2: are when people just simply agree. I would only quickly

1275
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 2: counter with this. He completed seventy two percent of his passes.

1276
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: Most guys don't do that in their second third year.

1277
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: So I understand you're trying to get some context to

1278
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 2: his statistics. I mean, but I'd be very careful by

1279
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 2: throwing too much cold water, although your context is duly noted.

1280
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's kind of where I'm going with this.

1281
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 5: I mean, when you're beating up on some of the

1282
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 5: let's be honest, who's the worst teams in the NFL

1283
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 5: right now?

1284
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 2: Yet see, hey, they lost to the Raiders, and so

1285
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: did the Chiefs two years ago and came back and

1286
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Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl. So I mean, I mean, where

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Speaker 2: you say it's where you.

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Speaker 5: Stand a lot of the talent. I mean two years

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Speaker 5: ago the Eagles beat the pants off the I think

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Speaker 5: the NFC is a power conference right now. It Wayne's

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Speaker 5: and Waxes right every year. I mean, you know, obviously

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Speaker 5: Brady and the Patriots ran it for so long, and

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Speaker 5: you have Peyton Manning, who the Colts with Peyton Manning

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Speaker 5: were still better than much of the NFC teams because

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Speaker 5: I got to watch them beat the hell out of

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Speaker 5: my Bears with Rex Rossman, Sexy Recley just taking out

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Speaker 5: the joint. The writing was on the wall with that

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl, you know, Waxes and Wayne's. I think Drake

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Speaker 5: may I do agree. I think he hasked count but

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Speaker 5: I think he came up against what I would think

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Speaker 5: would be the cream of the crop right now in

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Speaker 5: terms of like funneling teams the NFC.

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Speaker 11: This year, that was the road.

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Speaker 2: I mean, either run and he took advantage. He didn't biffit.

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: So that was the argument with Brady and Belichicks were

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Speaker 2: the people that were detractors for two decades. They were

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: stuck in a crappy division. But to their credit, they

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01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: didn't fumble it. They didn't fumble it either, So all right,

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Speaker 2: anything else you got for us tonight, Ross, don't be

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01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: a stranger.

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01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 5: No, that's all brother. My girl brothers about to start

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01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 5: calling me, asked me.

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Speaker 9: Were the hell I am?

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01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 5: So I probably got to hang out here. But hey, Bernie,

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01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 5: appreciate you taking my call.

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Speaker 8: You have a good night.

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01:07:59,000 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 5: That was an excellent call.

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Speaker 2: Have talent.

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Speaker 6: I'll say that.

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to shade him too much, but I.

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Speaker 2: Just look, you made your point, you brought, you made

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01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: your point, you brought some receipts, and that's the idea

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Speaker 2: here to have a symposium of thoughts. Thanks Ross. And

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: as soon as I get off the air, I'm going

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01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 2: to look up the word symposium. All right, Brandon from

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: Seattle look him in.

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Speaker 19: Hey Bernie, Yeah, just driving around and heard your voice

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01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 19: and I was like, oh okay, cool, let me let

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01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 19: me call in.

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01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 6: About this stuff.

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01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 18: I got a little pushback.

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Speaker 19: I guess when it comes to Brawny, Okay, you know,

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01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 19: I think he did have the highest vertical in his

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01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 19: class if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 8: So I mean it's not as if he's not talented,

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Speaker 8: you know.

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Speaker 19: So he has that, and I think he's hit some

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01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 19: thirty game points. I think he's had some thirty game

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01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 19: points see or games in the G League showing that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair, I'm enjoying this call, and I'll tell you

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01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: why because I'm going to leave. The witness didn't ask

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01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 2: you that. Will he be on the Lakers roster next

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01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 2: year if Lebron's not, or if for any reason, if

1344
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: Lebron was out of the league, he's even gonna be

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01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,560
Speaker 2: on an NBA roster? Do you believe that?

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Speaker 19: I think if if Lebron wasn't in the NBA, he'd

1347
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 19: be still on an NBA roster.

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01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna tell time is gonna be.

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Speaker 5: I think it's I think his.

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Speaker 19: Ceiling is too high for Bernie. I mean, you know,

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01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 19: with that kind of vertical and what is he six

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01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,799
Speaker 19: three and he's got a pretty good No, I don't.

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01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 2: Think he's six.

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Speaker 18: How tall is he?

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01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: I think six one six two?

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01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 19: Yeah, Well, he gets up around that room pretty pretty well.

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01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 2: I do agree he has enough athleticism and he's twitchy

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01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 2: enough to in short spurts act like he's competing. Uh.

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01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 2: But from what I've seen with his shooting and his release, uh,

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01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 2: and his mechanics which aren't exactly very fluid. Uh, he'd

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01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: lose to Caitlin Clark Badley in a three point shooting contest,

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01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: and that's not a good look.

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01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 11: Well a lot of people would, to be fair, But

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Speaker 11: we're talking about Brinnie.

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01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 2: We're really talking about Brinnie because I'm trying to figure

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01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: out if he's got a role, what is his role?

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: I'm not writing him off this This is a caller segment, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean I put him out there real quickly, Uh

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01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 2: Brandon anything on Randy Moss and uh Dion's complaints.

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Speaker 19: Well, when it comes to baseball, which is what I

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Speaker 19: know more, I think that the sports writer role in

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01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 19: you know, the in the game is really important and

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01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 19: it's something that I think even you know, the fans

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01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 19: may be disrespected because they just don't understand the depth

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Speaker 19: of the.

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Speaker 8: The vocation.

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Speaker 19: But it's really it's like a like blood for getting

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01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 19: the message out there to fans and you know, maybe

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01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 19: have been more. I think it's just as important now

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01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 19: as it was back then because there's a lot of

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01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,560
Speaker 19: misinformation nowadays, and you know, the players needs to be

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01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 19: better friends with the sports right. Of course they're amaking

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01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 19: more same amount of money, you know, but yeah, but

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01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 19: you know, I think they still kind of hang out

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01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 19: to some degree, but you might know that better than I.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, that's an next call, go ahead, finish up.

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Speaker 19: No, I was just gonna say so. I think the

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01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 19: sports writers have a bigger picture, kind of studied look

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Speaker 19: at the game that some of the US players are

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01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 19: kind of micro in the moment. We're not even paying

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Speaker 19: attention to what's going on in the other team to

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Speaker 19: be that's a fair point.

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Speaker 2: I think that's one of the arguments, again laid out

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Speaker 2: earlier on Hey, appreciate you checking in. Don't be a stranger. Brandon.

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01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 2: Brandon from Seattle coming up the minute hour continues, John

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Speaker 2: from Florida hanging there. Appreciate your patients. Kevin and Ithaca,

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Speaker 2: you will both be up next in that order. And

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Speaker 2: I want to remind the folks for the best pregame

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back on the Bernie Fraddles. You're wrapping

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Speaker 2: it up on the midnight hour. We go back out

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Speaker 2: to the phones. We're joined by John in Florida. John,

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Speaker 2: thanks your patience, Welcome.

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Speaker 8: In, Hey, Bernie. How you doing.

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01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 2: Thank you?

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01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 8: This thing with Drake May Games, it can't. I mean,

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01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 8: you know what some of these callers get in that

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 8: situation at twenty two or twenty three, I'll give them

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01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 8: the body of Randall Cunningham and that rifle Jack Kemp had,

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01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 8: And at twenty four or twenty three, that's a difficult

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01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 8: position to be in, and you have.

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Speaker 2: To coach the failure. The failure at that position is

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01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: so high, I juste not comfortable diminishing the excellent numbers

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01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 2: he put forth this year because of the perception that

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01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 2: it was a poorer schedule, which it was based on

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01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: one loss. I get it still a National Football League.

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Speaker 8: We had two great coaches too that were able to

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01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 8: exploit the weaknesses or other defenses. But the cl defenses

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01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 8: to good and well, we've got them there with eyes

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01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 8: staring everywhere at a young age. And but when it

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Speaker 8: comes to Bronnie, you know the worst thing about it

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01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 8: is he's knocking somebody who deserves that spot out of

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01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 8: an opportunity to play in the NBA. There's guy's walking

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01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 8: the streets because of economic issues or drugs or whatever.

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01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 8: They could out play Briannie any day of the week

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Speaker 8: if they just had the right opportunities. I mean, there's

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01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 8: somebody else that deserves that spot, and you know, I

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01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 8: guess I'm right doesn't care about that. But then again,

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01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 8: when it comes to the Hall of Fame voting, you know,

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01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 8: it's kind of like a rock and roll Hall of Fame.

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01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 8: How do you kick three dog mate the Hall of Fame?

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01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 8: Are you kidding me? You know, I'm just uh less,

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01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 8: That's all I had to say. I mean, the politics

1446
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 8: get involved in everything work close to their voting, and

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01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 8: there's people mad.

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Speaker 2: You've got anything on Dion's rant? Is it warranted?

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Speaker 8: Well, no, I mean, and it's not all Shagara's fault.

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01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 8: I mean they got Cleveland's got one of the best

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01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 8: defenses I've seen in a long time. But the offensive, why,

1452
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 8: he's got no receivers, he's got no running backs. I mean,

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01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 8: the kids running for his life half the time. I mean,

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01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 8: you know, he's a very serviceable quarterback as far as

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01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 8: account set considered. But because of Dion, you know, Dion

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01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 8: should know better to.

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Speaker 11: Talk like that.

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01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 8: He puts he put his son is an untenable position,

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01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 8: and the kid seems to be a good can't find

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01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 8: he seems to be a good kid. And uh yeah,

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Speaker 8: there were so many great athletes, so I mean, you

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 8: remember earning a big can't last.

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Speaker 2: Oh sure, knas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a workout partner in eighty two eighty three.

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01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 8: He was a phenomenal athlete. And he ain't hurt his

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01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 8: knee like Tate met her to his knee. But they

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01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 8: didn't have the surgeries and things they had that Those

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 8: were guys that, you know, they should be with that

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01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,919
Speaker 8: kind of ex space, they should use some older players

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 8: already's been long gone. But close Tayton, but there's a

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Speaker 8: lot of older guys should be politics isn't current for him,

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Speaker 8: and keep these owners out of voting for things, because

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Speaker 8: they're going to vote for their own players to begin with.

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Speaker 8: And so you know what I mean. You know, that's

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Speaker 8: about all I got. Brother. I appreciate you show men

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Speaker 8: and your insight. I'm from outside Detroit. Originally we were

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Speaker 8: know a lot of mutual friends that we used to

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Speaker 8: go to Colbo.

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Speaker 2: Hall all the time watching those are the days Dave Binge,

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Speaker 2: all right, real quickly that no one else will care about.

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Speaker 2: I care what suburb are you from?

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Speaker 8: And why was from Toledo?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well you know what that's that's about as close

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01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 2: as Michigan as you can get. It was a terf

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01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 2: for that that. I mean some people, Well that's a

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Speaker 2: conversation for a different day. But I give the same

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01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: commentary before the Michigan O House date came. All right, buddy,

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01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 2: go mud hands, Thanks John, good call. Don't be a

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Speaker 2: stranger wanting from me again. We wrap it up with

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Speaker 2: Kevin and Ithaca. Thanks for your patience. What are your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on all this Michigan tonight? Kevin and Ithaca are

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Speaker 2: you there.

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Speaker 11: Sorry, Bernie. Yeah, there's been a lot. And I'll just

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01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,879
Speaker 11: say nepotism ties them to Chador and len Or Lebron's kid, Bronnie.

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Speaker 11: Both kids, I mean are where they are. I think

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Speaker 11: a lot has to do with their fathers. Uh probably

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Speaker 11: you know, might have a.

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Speaker 2: Career and listen, I think that's very true. My my

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01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 2: focus on Shudor was is his rent warranted? Was? Was

1500
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 2: was Chador really that mistreated this year? Come down?

1501
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 8: No, he was.

1502
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 11: He was a serviceable quarterback to the previous callers.

1503
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 2: Got ten games at ORGS million dollars Pro Bowl.

1504
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 11: The Pro Ball was the joke, of course it was.

1505
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 11: You know, he may got headlines, made more headlines on

1506
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 11: social media than he did on the field. So he

1507
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 11: really didn't accomplish anything. Ronnie James hasn't accomplished anything. And

1508
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 11: once his dad exits the NBA, he will be in

1509
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 11: the G League or somewhere else overseas because no NBA

1510
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 11: team is going to employ him. He was only in

1511
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 11: the in the league right now because of his daddy.

1512
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 2: Right, go ahead, So I think JJ Reddick's comments would

1513
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 2: be exposed. And finally, Randy Moss does his premise have

1514
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 2: merit that only player should ut on the Hall of Fame.

1515
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 11: No, that's that's shortsighted. There's I mean, there's people that

1516
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 11: shouldn't be voting. I don't think Lisa Salters should have

1517
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 11: a vote. I don't think you know some of these

1518
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 11: other people.

1519
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 2: Never heard of Nicola Yoka, Chad I'm just curious.

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01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 8: I've heard of them.

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01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I know you have, remember which I

1522
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: should have thrown that out there a little saucy tonight,

1523
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 2: I guess go ahead by player.

1524
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 11: In the world, and she hadn't heard of them. But yes,

1525
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 11: I know what you're referring to. But I just don't understand.

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01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 11: I mean, there's people with dot COM's, there's someone that

1527
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 11: rights for the Bengals website, some of the rights for

1528
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 11: the Buccaneers website that have votes. They shouldn't have votes,

1529
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 11: But the players shouldn't control the votes either.

1530
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1531
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 2: I think the reason became such a hot debate this

1532
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks is, you know, regardless of how

1533
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 2: people will be about the Belichick snub as it were,

1534
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, six Super Bowls in New England, two with

1535
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 2: Bill Parcells and so okay, and then that that rekindles

1536
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: the Barry Bonds, Martin McGuire, Sammy Silsa, you know, does

1537
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: it servety fruitful purpose after twenty five years to keep

1538
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 2: them out? And what might it look like if the

1539
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,879
Speaker 2: players got to vote. So it's just it's just a conversation.

1540
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 2: You got the last word.

1541
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 11: I agree with what you're saying. And man, you look

1542
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 11: at that epstein Less and all the sports pictures in there.

1543
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, Samby Sposa knew the guy, but

1544
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 11: apparently he did.

1545
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 2: You're way ahead of me on that, brother. I choose

1546
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: not to consume that kind of content.

1547
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 8: But thank you.

1548
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 11: Well it's out there now. It's an astonishing number of

1549
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 11: sports figures on the list.

1550
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 6: They really are.

1551
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 2: I'll leave you with that. Okay, thanks, Thanks, Kevin appreciated. Look,

1552
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 2: the Dion thing, I had to bring it up tonight.

1553
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: What really transpired with Dion was shodor That's what he said.

1554
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 2: Because it transpired he fell to the fifth round, one

1555
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: hundred and forty fourth overall, and I don't think Dion

1556
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 2: liked that. But the truth of the matter is if

1557
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 2: you just if you just do a little intrepid work.

1558
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: The only people who seem confident that Shodoor Sanders would

1559
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: be a top ten selection or in the first round.

1560
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 2: Were Sanders and his agents and his PR team, he

1561
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 2: had opportunities he at the Shrine Bowl and the Combine

1562
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: to compete and prove he was ready to lead an

1563
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 2: NFL team right away, and he opted against both instead,

1564
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 2: claiming his college tape was all teams needed to see. Frankly,

1565
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 2: his approach to the pre draft process should be a

1566
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 2: lesson and what not to do for future quarterbacks. You

1567
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 2: don't just simply declare something that your aren't and hope

1568
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 2: that nobody checks you on it. Okay, we'll see how

1569
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 2: Sanders does in the future. He's got a job. He's

1570
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 2: got a good job. He got six million dollars, he

1571
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,919
Speaker 2: got the rookie treatment, started out as a third string quarterback,

1572
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 2: found his way into starting to starting well. I think

1573
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 2: he started eight games, peered in ten. Compare his numbers

1574
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: to you know, Dylan Gabriel, They're not better. He completed

1575
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 2: fifty six percent of his passes and he made it

1576
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. So was he really treated that poorly?

1577
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I'm already looking forward

1578
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 2: to next year to see where see where this goes

1579
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 2: prove us wrong, Schudre. It's no story if you bust,

1580
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 2: but it's a big story if you lead a team

1581
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. Coming up, we are going to switch gears,

1582
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 2: Mark Medina Medina Magic. We're gonna talk to NBA. We

1583
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 2: got a lot of meat on the bone tonight. Keep

1584
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 2: it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox.

1585
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: That's sure you heard the man, the Bernie Fraddles Show.

1586
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 2: Can't you roll it right along? Take you up to

1587
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 2: three in Pacific six a m. Eastern. There is so

1588
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: much on the bone, meat on the bone to discuss

1589
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 2: Vizza v the NBA. So, without further ado, three simple words,

1590
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 2: it's that time. Mark Medina Medina Magic are Fox Sports Radio,

1591
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: NBA guru and a writer for essentially sports, among many

1592
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 2: other modalities, joins us, Mark, we really do well. We

1593
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: always say this, but we really do have a lot

1594
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: of meat on the bone tonight. And I want to

1595
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 2: start with Adam Silver and his comments in general, and

1596
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 2: I like, we'll just kind of go category about cat category.

1597
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 2: So we have to start with tanking the elephant in

1598
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 2: the room, and he admitted it's worse than ever. Your

1599
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: thoughts on any potential solutions and can he ever really

1600
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: get on top of this.

1601
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's interesting because he said it's worse than ever.

1602
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 18: When I asked that same thing as Steph Curry, you know,

1603
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 18: he's obviously one of the faces of the NBA, he

1604
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 18: was kind of dismissive. He says, a really that big

1605
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 18: of a problem. I mentioned to him, hey, there's about

1606
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 18: a third of the teams that are you know, tanking

1607
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 18: right now, and he's still pushed back and said, hey,

1608
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 18: there's a lot of competition, you know, playing tournament, there's parody,

1609
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 18: et cetera, et cetera. But the question that you asked,

1610
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 18: is there something that can be done? Adam Silver mentioned

1611
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 18: that he has talked about the possibility of, you know,

1612
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 18: taking away draft picks from teams that tank.

1613
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 8: You know, I was that team.

1614
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: JB.

1615
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 18: Bickerstaff, he's the head of the Coaches Association, you know,

1616
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 18: the Detroit Pistons coach, and he said that's something that

1617
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 18: they're going to be talking about as well. So this

1618
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,839
Speaker 18: is definitely on the table when it comes to upcoming meetings.

1619
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 18: So it's not clear what they're going to hire out.

1620
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 18: But you know, even though this has always been existing

1621
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 18: and the NBA has done different things to try to

1622
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 18: improve it, with the lottery system in the mid eighties

1623
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 18: and the Plans tournament. Since the pandemic problem's not completely solved, No, we're.

1624
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 2: Going to continue to follow this, I think on this subject,

1625
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,799
Speaker 2: Steph Curry has all the credibility of a dermatologist with acne.

1626
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 8: So thanks for checking.

1627
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 2: Thanks for checking instead.

1628
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 18: So you're saying he might be the best shooter of

1629
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 18: all time, but he's not a policy extra when it

1630
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 18: comes with us.

1631
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a fair assumption, at least the second part.

1632
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of large vacant sections

1633
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 2: that you can observe at NBA All Start Weekend, really

1634
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 2: bothers some looking empty seats. Now people are complaining maybe

1635
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 2: it's the excessive ticket prices. Other people say maybe they're

1636
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: really truly is a declining interest in the product. People

1637
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 2: are just satisfied with Adam Silver regardless, it seems to

1638
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 2: be a referendum on the NBA when you All Start

1639
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 2: weekend has a ton of empty seats. Do you have

1640
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: any thoughts or comments on that?

1641
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, look I'm in La as you know, Bernie,

1642
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 18: I was at NBA All Star Weekend today as well

1643
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 18: as yesterday. It's one thing for the arena to be

1644
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 18: empty during Rising Stars.

1645
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 6: I was there.

1646
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 18: It was empty, but you know Rising Stars isn't that

1647
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 18: much attended to begin with, but for it to be

1648
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 18: almost empty for three point competition done competition, there's a

1649
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 18: few things unpacked. Yes, there's a lot of extenuating things

1650
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 18: that don't want help their cause, ticket prices, it's in LA,

1651
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 18: there's a lot of things to do. I think the

1652
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 18: bigger thing everything was moved up earlier in the day

1653
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 18: to play Kate NBCA. They're showing the Olympics. But even

1654
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 18: when you add all those things up, it's not a

1655
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,799
Speaker 18: good look for the NBA. And look from a bottom

1656
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 18: line results perspective, the NBA is fine. You know, they

1657
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,799
Speaker 18: got this new TV deal. They're not, you know, hurting

1658
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 18: for revenue. But you do wonder if this is a

1659
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 18: sign that you know, the bubble will burst the next

1660
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 18: TV right steal that expires in about ten years. And

1661
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 18: I think secondly, it's just, you know, it's one thing

1662
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 18: for a company to be profitable and making a lot

1663
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 18: of money, but if it just feels like everything about

1664
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 18: the NBA is just transactional. But there's no soul and

1665
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 18: enthusiasm for the game. You almost work wonder like, what's

1666
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 18: the point here?

1667
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: Right?

1668
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 18: And I know that you know they've grown internationally, they're

1669
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 18: talking about potentially expansion.

1670
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 11: It's it's he.

1671
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 18: Said, you know, Adam Silver said, it's it's not something

1672
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 18: that is going to immediately happen right away. But amid

1673
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,759
Speaker 18: all this growth, it has to be about the product

1674
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 18: on the floor, how the fans feel. And it just

1675
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 18: feels like in these last few years it's always been

1676
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 18: more about just the transactional part of the league and

1677
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 18: the health of that as opposed to, you know, kind

1678
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 18: of the authentic health for it. And again, it's a business.

1679
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 18: We're in the US. They want to make money and

1680
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 18: that's fine, but you want to also have a good

1681
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 18: product on the floor that makes everyone feel connected to it.

1682
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 18: And I think this All Star weekend really encapsulates that

1683
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 18: they haven't done that yet.

1684
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 2: No, Well said, that's certainly what's blowing in the ether.

1685
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 2: You mentioned expansion. That was going to be my next

1686
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 2: subject forever. Silver has reiterated that Seattle in Vegas and

1687
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 2: remain the leading candidates. But he's if I'm not mistaken.

1688
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,799
Speaker 2: He also said that he would reach a final decision

1689
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: at some time this calendar year about that. Is that true?

1690
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,480
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean it's fluid. But here's the next timeline

1691
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 18: he gave the boarding governors meeting next month in March,

1692
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,600
Speaker 18: they're going to talk more about expansion. It's not going

1693
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 18: to be a formal vote, it's going to be more

1694
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 18: about bringing up more ideas background. I think the thing

1695
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 18: that the NBA is trying to get its head wrapped

1696
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 18: around is what is the best market. I think Seattle

1697
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 18: that is a good market, But I think there's mixed

1698
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 18: feelings about Las Vegas because of the decline and tourism industry.

1699
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 18: As you probably will know, Bernie has taken a hook

1700
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 18: this last year, and I think the NBA is sensitive

1701
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 18: to that. But that doesn't mean they've ruled out Vegas.

1702
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 18: It's just that they want to make sure that they're

1703
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 18: doing all the right things. The other thing that they're

1704
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 18: trying to make sure they time it correctly is that

1705
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 18: I think there's some sensitivity that when you expand, all

1706
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 18: of a sudden, you have more pies of revenue to share.

1707
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 18: And the NBA just negotiated a TV deal that didn't

1708
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 18: include those teams and so I think understandably, you know,

1709
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 18: the existing franchise feel a certain way of all of

1710
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 18: a sudden sharing those earnings with a team that doesn't

1711
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 18: exist yet. So those are the things that they.

1712
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 11: Have to iron now.

1713
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,600
Speaker 18: But Adam Silver made a clearness press conference there's no

1714
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 18: relocation talk. So it's not about moving franchises to other cities.

1715
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 18: It's about expansion. So it's a matter of it's a

1716
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 18: matter of when, not if. But he made it clear

1717
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 18: this Sporting Governors meeting next month is not the final decision.

1718
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 18: That's just more discussions before the next steps.

1719
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 2: Just to set the record straight, I am aware of

1720
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: the reportage with respect to the perceived decline of tourism

1721
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 2: here in Vegas. We just had a Super Bowl. Look,

1722
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 2: let me just say this. The Vegas is coming off

1723
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: four or five straight record setting years, and it has

1724
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 2: it dipped a little bit, yes, but it's still bananas.

1725
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 2: And as you probably know because I've been done this

1726
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 2: for about three years, there's a couple there's a group

1727
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 2: called the oak View Group that acquired twenty five acres

1728
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,560
Speaker 2: near Las Vegas Boulevard and Blue Diamond, Okay, which is

1729
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 2: Blue Diamonds about three or four miles south of the

1730
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: strip where it begins a tropic in a plenty of

1731
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 2: space there and for the express purpose of building a

1732
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: twenty thousand seed arena. They're ready to roll. It's a

1733
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 2: ten billion dollar NBA ready arena and entertainment center. Okay,

1734
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 2: and they were hoping for twenty twenty five groundbreaking that

1735
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 2: obviously is not going to happen. I think from the

1736
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 2: minute Adam Silver green license, we're still looking at five

1737
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 2: or six years. The question is does he green lighted?

1738
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 2: You brought up a couple of good points, because it's

1739
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 2: not what I think, it's what the Board of governors think.

1740
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 2: You got the last word on that.

1741
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean the Board of governors for the listeners

1742
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 18: that those are the owners, so they have a voice

1743
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 18: on this. And Adam Silver, you know, as the NBA commissioner.

1744
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 18: There's this, I think general misconception from fans that think

1745
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 18: that the commissioners like the boss. And no doubt he's

1746
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 18: in a position of leadership, but his job is working

1747
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 18: on behalf of the owners. And he made it clear today,

1748
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 18: for better or for worse. And Bernie, you know that

1749
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 18: we've been critical of certain things that Adam Silver's has

1750
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 18: done or handled. He made it clear that he's bound

1751
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,560
Speaker 18: by the constitution of the CBA. You know that's collectively

1752
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 18: bargained with the players Union and Board of Governors. He

1753
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 18: doesn't have absolute power over this. So yeah, how this proceeds,

1754
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 18: the owners are going to have a large voice in it,

1755
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 18: and then he's going to act on behst of them.

1756
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 18: And that's how everything in the league operates historically. But

1757
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,560
Speaker 18: through David Stern and through you know, Adam Silver, and

1758
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 18: in all four.

1759
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: Of the leagues, the commissioner works for the owners. And

1760
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 2: if you're making money and you hadn't pissed anybody off,

1761
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 2: you know, you're gonna probably keep the seat for a while.

1762
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 2: I understand Silver somewhat addressed the Clippers investigation with respect

1763
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 2: to this.

1764
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,799
Speaker 18: Well he really did it, Bernie Lell just be honest.

1765
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't there, So that's why I'm asking you.

1766
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, he said it's it's ongoing. He doesn't have

1767
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,640
Speaker 18: any answers on that. Now here's the thing the NBA, but.

1768
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 13: He made it.

1769
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 2: He implied that just because time has passed and we're

1770
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 2: in the All Star the investigation's timeline hasn't changed. Whatever

1771
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 2: the hell that means.

1772
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1773
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 18: I mean, he made it clear that he doesn't have

1774
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 18: any update on it, but he also made it clear

1775
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 18: and reiterated the NBA isn't doing the investigation. It's an

1776
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 18: out side firm. He did give the public vote of

1777
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 18: confidence that he said, as far as I'm aware, the

1778
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 18: Clippers have been fully cooperative. But you know, he also said,

1779
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 18: I can't say that with full authority because we're not

1780
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:12,480
Speaker 18: the ones doing the investigation.

1781
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 2: Now.

1782
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 18: I think that's interesting is the Athletic had a recent

1783
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 18: report this week about the law firm, and they've reported that,

1784
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 18: you know, they were very they've been very comprehensive with

1785
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 18: asking a lot of questions as it pertains to Kawhi

1786
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 18: Leonard's endorsement, deal with Aspiration and all that. But that

1787
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 18: reports stated that they haven't asked questions about Steve Baumer,

1788
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 18: and that's kind of important. He's the owner. He's the

1789
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 18: one that green lights this and sets the tone and

1790
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 18: provides the direction and authority. And so that's that's a

1791
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 18: little puzzle in there. But again it's it hasn't been

1792
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,919
Speaker 18: finished yet. And as you know Bernie and the listeners

1793
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 18: you know that tune in weekly. Here I've said it.

1794
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 18: You know from the very beginning, that is the same

1795
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 18: law firm that investigated the Roberts Arbor situation. Completely different

1796
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 18: situation involving the unbattled Sun's owner, but it took them

1797
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 18: about a year for them to conclude their investigation. So

1798
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 18: you look at the timeline, I expect there to be

1799
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 18: some news before next season starts.

1800
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 2: Fair enough. Finally, with respect to Adam Silver, we are

1801
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 2: fifteen nine days away from the w NBA draft. Silver

1802
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 2: called for a sense of urgency. It appears everything's going

1803
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 2: to radio silent. My take is that's not a good

1804
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 2: sign for the players' union. They don't have anywhere near

1805
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 2: the leverage that they thought they had. They want more money.

1806
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 18: Your thoughts, Yeah, Well, Adam Silver, you know, made it

1807
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 18: clear that he's not actively involved at the negotiating table,

1808
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 18: but you know he's been trying to be helpful behind

1809
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 18: the scenes. However they see fit. You know, he mentioned,

1810
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 18: you know, it's the eleventh hour and he hopes that

1811
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 18: both sides can put together here. But I will caution here,

1812
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 18: just from experience of seeing how the lock out with

1813
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 18: the NBA play on twenty eleven, the league and the

1814
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 18: players union can talk about deadlines all they want, they

1815
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 18: essentially mean nothing. And I know the schedule. The schedule

1816
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 18: is the schedule. We can't get around that. But when

1817
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 18: it comes to deadlines that, oh, we're at the point

1818
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 18: of no return and negotiate. All it takes is a

1819
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 18: day to all of a sudden agree on things. So

1820
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 18: I do want to give that perspective here, but clearly

1821
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 18: they haven't made enough progress for them to agree to

1822
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 18: some of the revenue sharing and the contract numbers, and

1823
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 18: Adam Silver reiterated that you don't want to lose that

1824
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 18: momentum with the growing popularity in the women's league. But yeah,

1825
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 18: the schedule. They start training camp in the season in May,

1826
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 18: so that's something to be aware of. But everything else

1827
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 18: before that, it doesn't matter. They can agree to this

1828
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 18: at the last minute, even if they completely disagree two

1829
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 18: minutes prior. So that's just how to negotiates ago and

1830
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 18: we'll see what happens.

1831
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 2: My friend, I'm abundantly aware that my Entreande Radio was

1832
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 2: a summer ninety four which led into the strike that

1833
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 2: canceled the World Series. I've seen a thousand of these,

1834
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 2: including in the NHL where they lost half of the

1835
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 2: season an entire season, lost half of a season in

1836
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 2: the NBA, which you have here is a little different dynamic,

1837
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: and that is the players Union beating their chest, acting

1838
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 2: like they're more valuable than they really are. And there's

1839
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 2: a lot of inflammatory language coming out of this union. Yeah,

1840
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 2: they could agree on the last day, but that would

1841
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 2: imply the players Union is probably going to have to

1842
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 2: cave and then they're gonna be pissing and moaning. And

1843
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 2: so I think there's I live in the real world,

1844
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 2: and everything we're talking about here regarding this is really theoretical,

1845
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 2: and we can fall back on the same platitude that

1846
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 2: the deadlines don't be but they start to, They start

1847
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 2: to more than people realize. So given that there's no apparent,

1848
01:34:55,840 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 2: you know, a movement that I can see tangible, what's

1849
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 2: going to just change the players cave?

1850
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 6: Yes?

1851
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 18: But here I would push back a little bit here

1852
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 18: because it's not I think the players Union looking at

1853
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 18: through the NBA lens, they're very well aware that they're

1854
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,679
Speaker 18: in a losing proposition to begin with, because the owners

1855
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 18: can stomach financial losses better than the players can, and

1856
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 18: the player's career has a shelf life. So really it's

1857
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 18: not about winning negotiations. It's about cutting the losses and

1858
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 18: trying to protect certain things so that they don't completely

1859
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 18: lose everything. So I think when you look at it

1860
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 18: through that lens, it's reasonable. I mean, I don't have

1861
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 18: any issue with what the WNBA's players union is trying

1862
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:49,640
Speaker 18: to contend and protect and also want to have a

1863
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 18: larger percentage given that there has been finally growth in

1864
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 18: the WNBA, I don't have any issues relative.

1865
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 2: It's relative. They still lose money.

1866
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 18: Yeah, But what I will say is that is tough

1867
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 18: for both the players and the owners, is that because

1868
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 18: this has been kind of a lightning in a bottle,

1869
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 18: we've seen this growth in the women's game, college and

1870
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 18: WBA really come to light like these past few years.

1871
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 18: You can't lose that momentum in this kind of you know,

1872
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 18: a short attentionspan economy. And I know that can apply

1873
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 18: to all professional sports, but I think that's even more

1874
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 18: applicable to the WNBA women's basketball.

1875
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 2: My last thing, because I have two other topics. The

1876
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 2: last thing on this which is important, there's an economic reality.

1877
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 2: The owners have argued that the current proposals which would

1878
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 2: from the players where they are damn near demanding thirty

1879
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 2: percent of gross revenue is financially unsustainable. They project seven

1880
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars in losses under that proposal after losing

1881
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 2: a billion dollars in thirty years. So who blinks first?

1882
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1883
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 18: I think eventually the players blink first. But you know,

1884
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 18: you know, going back to again the NBA, and I

1885
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 18: know it's apples and oranges a lot of times. You know,

1886
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 18: the owners will cite economic losses when they're actually just

1887
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 18: business expenses. But they're still making a profit, right, So

1888
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 18: I think that they're trying to slip through those numbers.

1889
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, I spent way too much time.

1890
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 2: Lebron had some comments earlier in the week quote, we

1891
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 2: are not a championship team.

1892
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 20: They are.

1893
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 2: I can't believe that set well with very few people,

1894
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 2: because it comes across as we are not a championship team.

1895
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 2: They are. And it's not my fault with everybody else's.

1896
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 2: How was that comment received? They were totally a necessary

1897
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 2: But how was that comment received or was it? Am

1898
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 2: I just making too much of it? Well?

1899
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 18: I don't think it sounds great, but honestly, I don't

1900
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 18: think it really went anywhere. I mean, the context was

1901
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 18: he was frustrated they lost the Thunder. It's a fairly

1902
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 18: close game, and you know, he would ask, you know

1903
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 18: what are how do you use this as a measuring

1904
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 18: stick game against the Thunder? And he's like, well, they're

1905
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 18: the defending champs, like and then there if he was

1906
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 18: asked like what are the differences between the Lakers and them?

1907
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 18: And I think with that he couldn't help it kind

1908
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 18: of be a smart you know what. But yeah, I

1909
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 18: mean if we were to say this Bernie and we've

1910
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 18: said it, he would be like, yeah, he's we're around

1911
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 18: the money, like they're not a championship team. But I

1912
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 18: don't think Lebron should be saying that, because you want

1913
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:26,560
Speaker 18: to invoke confidence for the group even after a tough loss. So,

1914
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 18: you know, I don't think.

1915
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 2: Though that.

1916
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 8: The tea cose.

1917
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 2: It's not gonna have any impact on the team. They're

1918
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 2: gonna make the playoffs, they're gonna get knocked out in

1919
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 2: the first round, and it's just gonna be more stupid,

1920
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 2: passive aggressive stuff. All right, fair enough, I think it's

1921
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Speaker 2: attempts to a teapot. All things considered, I think I'll

1922
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Speaker 2: take you at your at your uh, you know word, finally,

1923
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 2: if the Dallas Mavericks hadn't had enough up and down

1924
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Speaker 2: roller coaster topsy turvy headlines. I understand there were overtures

1925
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Speaker 2: to bring back Mark Cuban brought Cuban excuse me, as

1926
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Speaker 2: a majority owner, but I'm also hearing that he's really

1927
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Speaker 2: not interested in doing that. What's your take.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I think he's certainly interested, but I don't think

1929
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Speaker 18: it's it was floated out there. I know Mark Stein

1930
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Speaker 18: has seen that to be a reporter mentioned it, but

1931
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Speaker 18: Patrick Dumont that made it very clear, like it's not

1932
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Speaker 18: for sale the franchise. I think there's kind of a

1933
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Speaker 18: plush pool trial balloon type situations being floated out. But

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Speaker 18: you know, clearly Mark Cuban has had misgivings about how

1935
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Speaker 18: the franchise has been after he sold his shares. Once

1936
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Speaker 18: he sold his share, see he had said that he

1937
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Speaker 18: would have you know, there's still the same level involvement

1938
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Speaker 18: in major basketball decisions that clearly didn't happen with the

1939
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Speaker 18: Luca Dogic trade, and Mark was very public about his

1940
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 18: misgivings about that trade, understandably so, so I think with

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Speaker 18: that there might be some sellers remorse, but no he's

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Speaker 18: he's not going to buy the franchise back, and at

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Speaker 18: least as of now, Patrick Dumont has made it clear

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Speaker 18: he's not selling either, So maybe that changes as far

1945
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Speaker 18: as you know, the Dumont family selling, But I don't

1946
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Speaker 18: think it'll involve Mark Cuban as any part of an

1947
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Speaker 18: ownership group.

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Speaker 2: Well, Cuban still owns twenty he has a twenty seven

1949
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Speaker 2: percent stake. Be it's not like he's not nothing anything.

1950
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Speaker 18: Oh yeah, yeah, he is a minority stick. I mean,

1951
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Speaker 18: as far as a majority stick.

1952
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Speaker 2: Mark great stuff is always no doubt. There'll be a

1953
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 2: lot more meat on the bone, even next week as

1954
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Speaker 2: he's topics. And I'm looking forward to the playoffs this

1955
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Speaker 2: year actually more than almost any other year because I

1956
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 2: think the Western Conference is a real gauntlet. And how

1957
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,799
Speaker 2: about those Celtics and you can't count out to Cleveland Cavaliers.

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Speaker 2: I think we're in for a pretty exciting NBA playoffs

1959
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Speaker 2: quite honestly.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's going to be exciting. Hey, last question, we

1961
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 18: can keep it quick. Are you at least excited for

1962
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Speaker 18: the All Star Game? The World versus US format?

1963
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Speaker 8: What do you think?

1964
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Speaker 2: I'm so excited, I've had to lie down with a

1965
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 2: cold conference in warm milk and soft music, because I

1966
01:40:58,600 --> 01:40:59,759
Speaker 2: can't contain my excitement.

1967
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 18: I will see if the players feel the same way.

1968
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question they're gonna They're gonna bring it tomorrow. Yep, yep,

1969
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 2: there's no question. Mark with all the veracity of the

1970
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 2: Washington generals, Red cy say. By the way, by the way, Mark,

1971
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 2: plenty of good sections available. Come on out, Come on out, folks,

1972
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 2: Mark great stuff as always, to see you next week.

1973
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Mark Medina Medina Magic are Fox Sports

1974
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 2: Radio NBA guru?

1975
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Speaker 16: Uh?

1976
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 2: Again, I appreciate his candor and clearly has his finger

1977
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 2: on the pulse. Uh and uh. The NBA is a

1978
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1979
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1980
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2002
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2003
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2005
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2019
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 2: some NFL stuff what's next for the offseason in terms

2020
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 2: of potential trades, moves, and more. But first a segment

2021
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 2: getting a lot of steam. It's the Fantasy Files.

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01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 12: Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch, your go to fantasy football

2023
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 12: segment are yet one gone.

2024
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:33,719
Speaker 20: When what is up, everybody? It is time for Fantasy Files.

2025
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 20: Last week we talked about Makai Lemon being an impact

2026
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 20: player right away, even though we don't know what team

2027
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 20: he's going to be on yet, one of the few

2028
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 20: guys that can actually contribute with his yards after catchabilities,

2029
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 20: catch radius, just plays football the right way, and I

2030
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 20: highlighted him. So today we're going to do a few

2031
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 20: different prospects because the NFL Draft Combine is coming up,

2032
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 20: and after that we'll have a clear sense of what

2033
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 20: these prospects like, how high they're going to rid. Are

2034
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 20: they first rounders?

2035
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 2: Are they not?

2036
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:06,440
Speaker 20: But one guy who just won a national championship at Indiana,

2037
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 20: And it's not Fernando Mendoza is going to be a

2038
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 20: higher pick in dynasty leagues and reed raft leagues than

2039
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 20: people think. And this is a guy similar to Makay

2040
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 20: Lemon that can contribute right away. And it's not Elijah Surratt,

2041
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 20: it's not Hemby, it's not Klin Blackhood an excellent you

2042
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 20: know Senior Bowl. It's Omar Cooper junior, Omar Cooper junior,

2043
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 20: who has been on the scene an incredible senior year.

2044
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 20: They use this guy in the backfield, they used this

2045
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 20: guy in the slot, They used him on the outside,

2046
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 20: and guess what he got everything. Most famously, the play

2047
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:48,720
Speaker 20: that blew up the most this season was the toe

2048
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 20: tap to win the game against Penn State. That was

2049
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 20: Omar Cooper Junior in the back of the end zone,

2050
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 20: the body, control of the yards after catchability. He reminds

2051
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 20: me a lot of Deebos Samuel, a younger Deebo Saml

2052
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 20: not Deebo Samuel now, who you know has gotten a

2053
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 20: little bit older. He played a lot of playoff games,

2054
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 20: so he's probably body wise thirty five, even though I

2055
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 20: think he's twenty nine or thirty. Omar Cooper reminds me

2056
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 20: of a younger Deebo Samuel in his ability to get

2057
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 20: the ball and create space with the after the catch.

2058
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 20: But it's not just that Debo was never a man beater.

2059
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 20: He can never beat man coverage at a high level.

2060
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 20: This guy can. This guy's even more versatile than Deebo

2061
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 20: Samuel was coming out of South Carolina. And he's a

2062
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 20: guy that PFF has is the fifty eighth rank prospect

2063
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 20: right now in the draft, and I believe the wide

2064
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 20: receiver six. And I'll tell you guys right now, if

2065
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 20: I was a betting man, Omar Cooper is one hundred

2066
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 20: percent going to go in the first round. I am

2067
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 20: as confident on that as I have ever been in anything.

2068
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 20: Take it for what you will take take my word

2069
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 20: for it. Omar Cooper Junior at twenty six overall to

2070
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 20: the Bills. That is probably where he's gonna end up,

2071
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 20: twenty seven to the forty nine ers. I could even

2072
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 20: see him going in the top twenty. Now, there's some

2073
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 20: other great receivers, and he's not as good as MacKaye Lemon,

2074
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 20: Jordan Tyson or Carnel Tate, who are the big three.

2075
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 20: They're in the tier of themselves. But Omar Cooper Junior

2076
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 20: is definitely a guy that I think in dynasty leagues

2077
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 20: can be like a MacKaye Lemon. It doesn't really matter

2078
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:20,719
Speaker 20: where he goes. He'll just produce right away. As older

2079
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 20: which helps as well.

2080
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 2: He's twenty three.

2081
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:26,759
Speaker 20: I think that helps, especially if you're trying to contribute

2082
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 20: right away. And I think that if he goes to

2083
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 20: Buffalo or San Francisco to really good offenses, he can

2084
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 20: make an impact right away. And that's why I'm projecting him.

2085
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 20: Another guy that I wanted to highlight that I don't

2086
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 20: think is getting enough love is Eli Stowers tight end

2087
01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 20: from Vanderbilt originally New Mexico State, Texas. Sadam transfers from

2088
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 20: New Mexico State to Vanderbilt with Diego Pavia from New

2089
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,599
Speaker 20: Mexico State. They both played there. They had eleven wins

2090
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,600
Speaker 20: on a New Mexico State team, probably one of the

2091
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 20: best New Mexico State teams of all time. They go

2092
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,640
Speaker 20: to Vanderbilt the last two years and he absolutely dominates. Now,

2093
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 20: he's a little bit of a tweener, six four to

2094
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:03,759
Speaker 20: two thirty five, so he's gonna fall in the draft,

2095
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 20: similar to a guy last year that everyone was like, Okay, yeah,

2096
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 20: he's six four, he's too two forties, great route runner,

2097
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:14,520
Speaker 20: vertical threat, has all the EPA, all the separation numbers,

2098
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 20: Harold Fan and Junior, and what did he do for

2099
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 20: the Browns this year? Everybody that knew about prospects and

2100
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 20: was evaluating players could have told you Harold Fan and

2101
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 20: Junior should have gone in the first round. And I

2102
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 20: think people are gonna make the same mistake with Eli Stowers.

2103
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:32,679
Speaker 20: This is a guy that catches everything. He's a fluid

2104
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 20: route runner, he's very quick for his size, and I'm

2105
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,679
Speaker 20: not saying he's as good as Harold Fan and Junior,

2106
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 20: but he's a guy that's gonna end up going in

2107
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 20: Round two or three to a contender. And you're gonna

2108
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 20: be wondering a year from now, why the heck did

2109
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 20: he go to in round two or three? Now, again,

2110
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,599
Speaker 20: maybe he can't block at the level as Kenyon Sadik,

2111
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 20: but Kenyan Cidek is also a vertical threat as well.

2112
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 20: I think Stour's bang for your buck probably better value

2113
01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 20: in round two than Kenyan Cidek in round one, especially

2114
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,560
Speaker 20: in Dynasty where everyone's going to be really trying to

2115
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 20: get Kenny on Sidik early. Right, And this is a

2116
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 20: tight end, and we know how tight ends can contribute

2117
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,719
Speaker 20: right away, Sam Laportza a few years ago, Trey McBride, obviously,

2118
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:15,759
Speaker 20: Brock Bauers, Harold fannin this year, Tyler Warren, Colston Loveland.

2119
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 20: Tight Ends are league winners if you hit on them

2120
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 20: right away, typically as rookies. I know Loveland it took

2121
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 20: some time, but he ended up becoming a league winner.

2122
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 20: Eli Stowers can be that next guy. And again we

2123
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 20: don't have to worry about this until whenever your Dynasty

2124
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 20: Redraft league drafts again. But a guy that I like

2125
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 20: a lot, Eli Stowers at the tight end position and

2126
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 20: Omark Hooper Junior at the receiver position. Two guys just

2127
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:42,759
Speaker 20: to keep your eye on as you go through the combine.

2128
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:44,719
Speaker 20: As we go towards the NFL Draft, and you start

2129
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 20: looking at your dynasty rosters and even redraft rosters of

2130
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 20: impact rookies. These two guys are going to be guys

2131
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 20: you're talking about in December.

2132
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 2: Later this year.

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Speaker 20: Thank you Bernie's Fantasy Files. You can find me at

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Speaker 20: BSD takes, you can on X, you can find me

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01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:01,680
Speaker 20: at Brandon as stoutch on TikTok and Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, all right, great stuff. Look, I'm gonna

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01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 2: absolutely co sign on Omar Omar Cooper Junior. And this

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01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 2: is the this gets into that gray area where I

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01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 2: take umbrage with the scouting process and how sometimes the

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01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:23,640
Speaker 2: analysis and analysis paralysis and over rating certain tangibles, uh,

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01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,679
Speaker 2: the games played by human beings. And it comes down

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01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 2: to and this is why Kurtz Signetti got Omark Cooper Junior. Production.

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01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 2: You want production or you want potential. And what pisses

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01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:37,759
Speaker 2: me off about what scouts have said that Omar Cooper

2145
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 2: lacks elite top end speed. Okay, and because he's six

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01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 2: foot two or four built more like a running back, Uh,

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01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 2: he might not have quite the catch radius, but the

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01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:52,760
Speaker 2: guy's got incredible hands, he's reliable hands. He had he

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Speaker 2: had the lowest drop rate. I think in the in

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01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 2: the NCAA, he can high point the ball and you

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01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 2: heard about the toe tap a thousand. Sometimes this is

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01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:05,719
Speaker 2: a guy who's gonna get on the field and produce

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01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 2: results and get production. He's got elite running after the catch,

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01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 2: yards after the catchability because he's a terrific athlete. Oh,

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01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 2: by the way, he can also block. Okay, so you

2156
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 2: know you want to play that game like my buddy

2157
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 2: bill Side because used to say birds can fly too.

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01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean they can play wide receiver. But the

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01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 2: notion that he would fall to the second round or

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01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 2: day two is driven by the measurables, which don't always

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01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 2: win football games, do they. It sounds good, it all

2162
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 2: sounds good. But give me the guy who actually has

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01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:44,120
Speaker 2: proven and will prove again that he can produce results

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01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 2: based on what we know we saw, and I think

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Speaker 2: Omar Cooper Junior, and some people have actually called him

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01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 2: Super Cooper because he's going to make somebody in their

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01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 2: NFL offense very happy next year, I think right away,

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Speaker 2: and not for nothing. Look, I've been doing this a while.

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01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 2: I loved Jerry Rice coming out of Mississippi Valley State,

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01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:09,759
Speaker 2: scout stogged him because he came from a small school.

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01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 2: And believe it or not, I bet you didn't know this.

2172
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice dropped ten passes in his first ten NFL games.

2173
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 2: He got booed, they called him a bust. But it

2174
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 2: was coached by Bill Walsh who knew what he had

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01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 2: in him. And Walsh told him you might be the

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01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 2: greatest football player to ever play the game. So scouting

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01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 2: is an exact science and inexact art. And the Dodters

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01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 2: that had, you know that, lined up against Jerry Rice. Yeah,

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01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 2: you might not believe that now, but they did. Some

2180
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 2: of them are lining up against Ollmark Cooper and I'm

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01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 2: not buying it. The right team is going to nab

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Speaker 2: this guy and he's going to produce results. Just my

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Speaker 2: two cents. As a follow up from the Fantasy Files,

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Speaker 2: coming up, what's next for the NFL offseason? Maybe some

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01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 2: potential trades, some quarterback moves. We'll start to dive into

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Speaker 2: that just a little bit. I'm Bernie Frattle company line

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Speaker 2: from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Don't go away.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on don't listening

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Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Radio Alright, we're back on the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Frattle Show. Fox Sports Radio Company Live from the Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios will take up to three

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Speaker 2: m Pacific, six am Eastern. The NFL's league year New

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01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:36,680
Speaker 2: league Year officially begins March eleventh, but in reality, it's

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01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 2: already begun, all right. I just mentioned that Tuesday. Well,

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01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 2: I gave a full calendar earlier in the show. Not

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01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:48,759
Speaker 2: going to revisit that. But there are already things underway,

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01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 2: all right. So as a result, what storylines are going

2198
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 2: to begin to resonate more so? And perhaps, excuse me,

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01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 2: move on the move up the ranks, as it were,

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01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:06,599
Speaker 2: to catch the public guy. Let's start with big, big

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01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 2: name trades. Might there be any big name trades, because

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01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 2: there's two big time stars still only twenty eight years old,

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01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 2: Max Crosby, the defensive en star for the Raiders, and

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01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 2: Eagles receiver A. J. Brown. Frankly, both would fetch very

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01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 2: significant returns. All right. But when Clinton Kubiak, who's already

2206
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 2: arrived in town, the Raiders' new head coach, he's already said,

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01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 2: we want Crosby to be of our success moving forward.

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01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 2: It's one of the best players in the NFL blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah. But I haven't been able to yet really

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Speaker 2: gauge how very serious Max Crosby is about maybe wanting

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01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 2: to move on. I never would have believed it, but

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01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 2: he set out those last two games against his desire,

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01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 2: and I don't think that's sat well b wild for Philly.

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01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 2: I think it's likely Aj Brown will be trade and

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01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 2: don't be surprised if New England steps into the mix.

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01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 2: Remember he played for Mike Grable in Tennessee. But there'll

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01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 2: be other teams as well. You know, we had an

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01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 2: earlier caller saying that Brown said no wide receivers. Maybe

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01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 2: they take a flyer if he can straighten up and

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01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 2: fly right and play to his capability. I think the

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01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 2: Bills cold use them. The forty nin Ers can use them.

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01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 2: Another storyline that still seems to be lurking in the

2223
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 2: ether with no definitive answer. Will Aaron Rodgers return next season?

2224
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 2: Will Travis Kelsey return? Okay? I think it's leaning towards

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01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 2: the fact that Rogers will return, in part due to

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01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy taking over for the Steelers. McCarthy wants Rogers back,

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01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 2: as far as Kelsey, he seems to be holding his

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01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 2: cards close to his vest. He's thirty six year old

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01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 2: years old, and.

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Speaker 5: He seems to be.

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01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:00,800
Speaker 2: Sort of dialed in this one a little bit more

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01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 2: so than before. And he might have one more season

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01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 2: left in him, so he's not a zero. I'd say

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01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 2: it's fifty to fifty that Travis Kelsey returns. He could

2235
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 2: have easily retired by now if he don't wanted to.

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01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 2: And I also think that it's probably seventy thirty that

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Speaker 2: Rogers returns, maybe even eighty twenty. George Pickens, I don't

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01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 2: think he'll reach free agency. It's anything's possible, but I'm

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01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 2: quite sure that Dallas has already said so they're going

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Speaker 2: to franchise tag him at the very least. I think,

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01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 2: you know, if look another guy, I think Alec Pierce,

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01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 2: the receiver for the Colts. He somebody's got to take

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01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 2: a flyer on this guy. He made one play after

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01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 2: another and he looked very good doing it. One of

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01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 2: the dilemmas that Colts have is do you pay Daniel Jones.

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01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:04,480
Speaker 2: He's likely going to be bad. I think the Chris

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01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 2: Bower is on record, he's the general manager for the Colts.

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01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 2: He's basically said very confidently that he thinks Jones is

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01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 2: their answer at quarterback for the long term, and Daniel

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01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 2: Jones can play better than people give him credit for.

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01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 2: The question is how much money can they reach a

2252
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 2: can they reach a happy media? And he's twenty years old,

2253
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 2: he's going to be rehabbing from a torn achilles. He

2254
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 2: has a LinkedIn injury history. Last year, Sam Darnold got

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Speaker 2: about thirty three million per year. Some reason people think Jones'

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01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones's price tag is forty million. I don't know.

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01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:48,560
Speaker 2: So the Colts have a bit of a dilemma. Okay,

2258
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 2: they need a quarterback, and Daniel Jones proved he could

2259
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 2: do it. I don't think what he'd do as a fluke,

2260
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 2: But again you saw how it ended. So there's that.

2261
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 2: How about Malik Willis Is, So we're going to take

2262
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:04,880
Speaker 2: a sizeable bet on Malik Willis. He only started three

2263
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 2: games for the Packers, and yet he's actually based on

2264
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 2: advanced metrics. When he has gotten his opportunity, he's done

2265
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 2: very well. Okay, he's been in the league now since

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01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, he's twenty six years old. He was

2267
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 2: an afterthought in Tennessee. I think he's a fairly coveted

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01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 2: free agent quarterback. Malik Willis showed a lot. I thought

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01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 2: in the limited opportunities he got, he stepped in and

2270
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 2: was thrown into the fire, and I thought responded, well, Okay,

2271
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:43,320
Speaker 2: it appears to be a foregune conclusion. There are a

2272
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 2: couple of local guys who really got their finger on

2273
01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 2: the pulse and the raiders here more than anybody. Vince

2274
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:52,160
Speaker 2: Sapienza and Kevin Bollinger, both with our Channel five news team.

2275
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 2: These guys are really all over it. I got to

2276
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 2: have one or both of themn in terms of is

2277
01:58:56,640 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 2: it absolutely a foregone conclusion that Fernando Mendez this is

2278
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 2: going to be drafted number one. Yeah, it feels that way,

2279
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 2: but we'll see what happens. We're still a ways off.

2280
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 2: But I guess the question is after Mendoza, then who

2281
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 2: goes next. Ty Simpson at Alabama had an up and

2282
01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 2: down season, but he only had fifteen college starts. I

2283
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:25,840
Speaker 2: don't think he'll be I think Fernanda Mendoza might only

2284
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:29,120
Speaker 2: be the only quarterback drafted in the first round. Just

2285
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 2: just my opinion. Okay. The first half of the season,

2286
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:36,000
Speaker 2: Simpson was looking to be a top ten pick, so

2287
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:40,200
Speaker 2: the potential's there, but I don't know that he's going

2288
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 2: to be in the first round. And who takes I

2289
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 2: don't know. I understand as Steelers might have some interest.

2290
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 2: Garrett ness Meyer of LSU. He had a very up

2291
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 2: and down twenty twenty five. He does have a strong arm.

2292
01:59:55,080 --> 02:00:02,880
Speaker 2: He's his son of Saints' offensive coordinator Doug Nussmeyer. He

2293
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 2: has a role somewhere in the NFL. But I think

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02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:09,240
Speaker 2: after Banana Mendoza drops off, we all know that twenty

2295
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 2: twenty seven, you know, quarterback draft appears to be a

2296
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:18,680
Speaker 2: lot more promising. But while we're on the subject of quarterbacks,

2297
02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:21,360
Speaker 2: how about the veteran quarterbacks? To a talk of Alow,

2298
02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:24,040
Speaker 2: He's fully guaranteed fifty four million in twenty twenty six,

2299
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 2: which makes them very difficult to move. But you never know.

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02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 2: Miami's got a brand new regime and they might be

2301
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 2: willing okay again, Daniel Jones, Malik Willis, Aaron Rodgers. We

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Speaker 2: have it to mention Kyler Murray or Kirk Cousins or

2303
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:41,080
Speaker 2: Gino Smith. And did anybody say Joe Flacco's done playing yet?

2304
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:44,680
Speaker 2: At forty one years old? You might see some of

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02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:49,920
Speaker 2: these old faces as it were, in new places. So again,

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02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:52,720
Speaker 2: we are just getting started with the NFL Hot Stove League,

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02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 2: and it's going to start fast and furious. Before you

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02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:58,600
Speaker 2: know it, they'll be free agent stuff, and they'll be

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02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:01,960
Speaker 2: underwear Olympics and combine stuff and the draft and you

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Speaker 2: name it, and we'll be off and running. Max Crosby

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Speaker 2: is the one I'm interested in. Could he be traded?

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02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 2: They say it's possible. I'll believe it when I see

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Speaker 2: it coming up. The NBA has a tanking problem more

2314
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Speaker 2: than ever we look at it. It's Bertie Frattles Show.

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02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:23,360
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. Bernie Fradles Show keeps

2316
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:26,560
Speaker 2: rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frattlew or Kenny

2317
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Speaker 2: laugh for the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: We'll take up to three am Pacific, six a m.

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Speaker 2: Eastern on this NBA All Star Game Sunday games. You

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Speaker 2: know there's an old format this year. There's gonna be

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Speaker 2: three round robbin games.

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Speaker 11: Tell you what.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to that in a minute because we

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Speaker 2: have some breaking news, some breaking news. Here's the breaking news.

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Speaker 2: The NBA tanking problem is worse than ever. Yes, in

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Speaker 2: case you missed it, the NBA has a tanking problem,

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02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:05,880
Speaker 2: maybe even an epidemic. Now, look, this is not news

2328
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 2: in the sense that for a long time, tanking has

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02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:14,880
Speaker 2: been something that's been kind of an overriding nuisance, kind

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Speaker 2: of a you know, a pimple on the face of

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Speaker 2: a good man. And every year a few teams, well,

2332
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:22,640
Speaker 2: they kind of shut down players late in the season.

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02:02:22,840 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes they just obviously don't care if they win. You

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02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:30,640
Speaker 2: I told you earlier in the show, and other shows

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Speaker 2: have reported as well. Utah sat through starters in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter of a game. They got fined five hundred grand.

2337
02:02:39,480 --> 02:02:41,280
Speaker 2: By the way, the Jazz were ding one hundred grand

2338
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:45,280
Speaker 2: last year. Three years ago, the league fined Dallas seven

2339
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:48,120
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand for intention losing a late season game.

2340
02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:49,560
Speaker 2: That's nothing new. Did it worked?

2341
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:49,760
Speaker 9: No?

2342
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 2: No, does the NBA really have They really put any

2343
02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:56,280
Speaker 2: teeth into the snow. They're just kind of grinn and Barrett.

2344
02:02:56,680 --> 02:02:59,520
Speaker 2: This season though, was really different because Utah is the

2345
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 2: most obvious tanker in the NBA. But they're not the

2346
02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:09,440
Speaker 2: only ones. Okay, Washington traded for two ex All stars,

2347
02:03:09,960 --> 02:03:12,920
Speaker 2: Trey Young and Anthony Davis with I don't think they

2348
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 2: have really any intention of using them in any meaningful minutes.

2349
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:22,360
Speaker 2: This year, Indiana acquired a Vika Zubach and then almost

2350
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:25,600
Speaker 2: immediately determined he had an ankle injury. And he's played

2351
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:31,520
Speaker 2: through injuries, you know, like before the Mavericks, which dumped

2352
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:35,280
Speaker 2: to Anthony Davis. They're not exactly light in the world

2353
02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:40,320
Speaker 2: on fire and Cooper flag sat the other night. I

2354
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:45,720
Speaker 2: could give examples all night long. Right, I'm guessing, what

2355
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:49,360
Speaker 2: if Milwaukee could convince Giannis to take off the rest

2356
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 2: of the season. They look like they're ready to mail

2357
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:55,680
Speaker 2: it in. So that's Brooklyn, Memphis, they've been offloading stars Sacramento.

2358
02:03:55,960 --> 02:04:00,120
Speaker 2: What's new. The NBA is speaking out on it a

2359
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:03,280
Speaker 2: little bit more this time, though, League officials. A lot

2360
02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:05,240
Speaker 2: of the league officials have started to act kind of

2361
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:08,160
Speaker 2: pissed off because it's not just that there's tanking, it's

2362
02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 2: being brazenly done. Now, Okay, the NBA is tried very

2363
02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:18,000
Speaker 2: much to incentivize winning. They created the plane Tournament, they

2364
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:22,280
Speaker 2: flattened the lottery odds. It's easier to get to the

2365
02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:25,800
Speaker 2: postseason now that it's ever been before, and now more

2366
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:28,480
Speaker 2: than ever before, teams are trying to avoid it. You say, well,

2367
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:31,440
Speaker 2: you played six months to eliminate ten teams. Twenty of

2368
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:34,600
Speaker 2: the thirty teams go to the playoffs. This season has

2369
02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:38,919
Speaker 2: been a cluster, you know what. Okay, Utah and Washington

2370
02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 2: have top eight projected protected draft picks. Indiana keeps its

2371
02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:48,440
Speaker 2: pick of falls anywhere between five and nine. Brooklyn, Dallas,

2372
02:04:48,520 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 2: and Memphis. They're well, they need players, they need stars,

2373
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:57,520
Speaker 2: they need something. But and what's interesting is perhaps a

2374
02:04:57,840 --> 02:05:02,400
Speaker 2: correlation is causation. This upcoming draft is supposedly full of

2375
02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:08,600
Speaker 2: a ton of stars. Okay, but you know, you heard

2376
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:12,480
Speaker 2: what I said earlier in the show. Possibly you know

2377
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:15,080
Speaker 2: you really want to fa f O and earn the

2378
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:18,959
Speaker 2: right to, you know, draft the great Markelle Fultz, Theorndre

2379
02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:21,560
Speaker 2: Bonnjani or Ben Simmons or DeAndre Eton, how about the

2380
02:05:21,640 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 2: legendary Anthony Bennett. Careful what you wish for. There's no

2381
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:29,720
Speaker 2: guarantee your draft's going to guarantee anything. Department of redundancy department,

2382
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 2: I get it. Okay, Oklahoma City had sub twenty five

2383
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:39,000
Speaker 2: back to back twenty five win seasons, and then you

2384
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 2: know Detroit and San Antonio has Victor Woman Yama. I

2385
02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:45,760
Speaker 2: don't care. I don't. I don't like this. To those

2386
02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:50,040
Speaker 2: who think that losing works, you know, I'm not buying it. Okay,

2387
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 2: every once in a blue wound, it may or may

2388
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:55,440
Speaker 2: not sort of kind of work. How's that process working

2389
02:05:55,440 --> 02:05:58,360
Speaker 2: at Philadelphia after a decade? But don't remind me of

2390
02:05:58,360 --> 02:06:00,600
Speaker 2: the guy who predicts gonna rain every day for seven

2391
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:02,760
Speaker 2: thousand days in a row, and it never does. And

2392
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 2: finally on the seven thousand and first day at rains

2393
02:06:05,120 --> 02:06:07,840
Speaker 2: and he says, I told you, Okay, we are in

2394
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 2: uncharted territory now we The NBA is on uncharted territory

2395
02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 2: this year period period. It is a situation where it

2396
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:23,080
Speaker 2: is perhaps an epidemic grizzlies. They've lost eleven of the

2397
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:26,760
Speaker 2: last fourteen maps have lost what eight to row Jazz

2398
02:06:27,160 --> 02:06:31,800
Speaker 2: thirteen to the last sixteen Kings lost? I think what

2399
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:35,880
Speaker 2: thirteen in a row? So, as is the case with

2400
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 2: any problem that apparently has been you know, acknowledged, what

2401
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:44,960
Speaker 2: are the what solutions are there?

2402
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:46,600
Speaker 6: Now?

2403
02:06:46,680 --> 02:06:49,720
Speaker 2: Even if the NBA wants to try to make sweeping changes,

2404
02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna take it's gonna take time to manifest. So

2405
02:06:53,480 --> 02:06:56,200
Speaker 2: what what could the NBA do so let's let's just

2406
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 2: spit ball this h with the acknowledgment that I have.

2407
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:02,440
Speaker 2: I have no belief that any of these would work

2408
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:05,680
Speaker 2: or any prediction that they'll really go hard at this. Okay,

2409
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:11,440
Speaker 2: how do you attack tanking? What do you do? One

2410
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:14,840
Speaker 2: suggestion flattening the lottery odds even more. The NBA used

2411
02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:17,880
Speaker 2: to have a draft lotteryer all non playoff teams had

2412
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:20,520
Speaker 2: the same chance to move up. That ended after the

2413
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:24,000
Speaker 2: Orlando Magic was the top spot in ninety two and

2414
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:28,160
Speaker 2: ninety three, and in the ninety three season, when Shack

2415
02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:31,400
Speaker 2: was picked number one overall as a rookie, the Magic

2416
02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:33,520
Speaker 2: had the best record of any lottery team at forty

2417
02:07:33,560 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 2: one and forty one. So one executive suggested a further

2418
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:40,480
Speaker 2: flattening the odds, and they did, Okay, that this comes

2419
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:42,960
Speaker 2: with the downside because if you get too many teams

2420
02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:46,600
Speaker 2: the same odds as the top pick, well, you know,

2421
02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:49,720
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now teams will say, well, maybe

2422
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 2: we shouldn't go to the playoffs, like Dallas didn't do

2423
02:07:52,240 --> 02:07:56,840
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. This has been bandied about

2424
02:07:57,000 --> 02:08:00,800
Speaker 2: more than once. I think it had some merit. Instead

2425
02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:02,920
Speaker 2: of how many losses you have after the All Star Break.

2426
02:08:02,920 --> 02:08:04,280
Speaker 2: How about how many wins do you have under the

2427
02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:07,280
Speaker 2: All Star break? You see, under the current system, teams

2428
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:09,560
Speaker 2: at the bottom. They're rewarded for losing as many games

2429
02:08:09,560 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 2: as possible during the final two months of the season.

2430
02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:16,720
Speaker 2: That's not proving to be a smart idea. What if

2431
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 2: that concept was flipped if you made a portion of

2432
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:22,680
Speaker 2: the second half schedule after the All Star break, or

2433
02:08:22,720 --> 02:08:25,000
Speaker 2: righte with the final twenty games, for example, to work

2434
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:28,680
Speaker 2: in the opposite fashion, meaning that the most wins during

2435
02:08:28,720 --> 02:08:32,600
Speaker 2: that stretch would determine the lottery odds. Well. That would

2436
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:35,520
Speaker 2: obviously create a system where teams would have every reason

2437
02:08:35,560 --> 02:08:39,080
Speaker 2: to play hard and play their stars, regardless of where

2438
02:08:39,120 --> 02:08:41,640
Speaker 2: they sit heading into March in April. Take last season,

2439
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:44,560
Speaker 2: for example, the Spurs had an eleven and forty four

2440
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:49,080
Speaker 2: record before the All Star Break. They went eleven and

2441
02:08:49,160 --> 02:08:53,040
Speaker 2: sixteen after the All Star break, and by adding their

2442
02:08:54,040 --> 02:08:57,600
Speaker 2: pre break All Star wins and post break losses, the

2443
02:08:57,680 --> 02:09:01,800
Speaker 2: Spurs lottery record was twenty seven in fifty five, despite

2444
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:04,280
Speaker 2: an actual mark of twenty two and sixty, which would

2445
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:07,080
Speaker 2: get rewarded with the better lottery odds if they'd remain

2446
02:09:07,160 --> 02:09:11,400
Speaker 2: competitive during the final stretch. Okay, it would incentivize everybody

2447
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 2: to at least compete to the end. So here's how

2448
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:18,960
Speaker 2: last season's lottery standings would have changed if this rule

2449
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:24,880
Speaker 2: had been in place before the All Star break. The Pistons,

2450
02:09:24,920 --> 02:09:28,440
Speaker 2: for instance, at one point two years ago, they were

2451
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:32,280
Speaker 2: eight and forty six. Before the All Star break six

2452
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:36,120
Speaker 2: and twenty two after, they were fourteen and sixty eight.

2453
02:09:36,160 --> 02:09:38,840
Speaker 2: But the revised record would have been thirty and fifty two.

2454
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:41,960
Speaker 2: The point of the matter is, I'll tell you what.

2455
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go through all these because it

2456
02:09:44,160 --> 02:09:50,040
Speaker 2: gets boring. The two big winners in that season would

2457
02:09:50,080 --> 02:09:52,600
Speaker 2: have been Houston and Golden State, and the Spurs, who

2458
02:09:52,640 --> 02:09:55,200
Speaker 2: were competitive through the end of the regular season because

2459
02:09:55,240 --> 02:09:58,800
Speaker 2: they pushed hard to make the postseason at the end. Meanwhile,

2460
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:01,480
Speaker 2: the Raptors and the Jazz each lost a ton of

2461
02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:06,680
Speaker 2: games as the season was winding down. Okay, and so

2462
02:10:07,600 --> 02:10:10,640
Speaker 2: you know they succeeded to keep their protected first round picks.

2463
02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:12,720
Speaker 2: But I don't think this is healthy for the NBA.

2464
02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:16,600
Speaker 2: I just don't. How about if you rework or completely

2465
02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:19,880
Speaker 2: remove pick protections. Think about this. One of the most

2466
02:10:19,920 --> 02:10:23,640
Speaker 2: blatant abuses, one of the most flagrant cases of tanking

2467
02:10:24,480 --> 02:10:28,520
Speaker 2: are teams that hoped to keep their lottery draft pick. Okay,

2468
02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:32,400
Speaker 2: the Mavericks, the Dallas Mavericks, this is a little bit

2469
02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:36,080
Speaker 2: of ancient news now. They tanked their final two games

2470
02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:39,440
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three to keep a top ten protected pick.

2471
02:10:40,160 --> 02:10:42,680
Speaker 2: And that's the most egregious example. They would have made

2472
02:10:42,680 --> 02:10:47,120
Speaker 2: the playoffs. They were fined seven hundred and fifty thousand,

2473
02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:50,280
Speaker 2: and that got them Derek Lively, who actually was a

2474
02:10:50,720 --> 02:10:53,920
Speaker 2: fairly key contributor to a team that reached the twenty

2475
02:10:53,960 --> 02:10:58,680
Speaker 2: twenty four finals before Luco was traded. This season, the

2476
02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 2: Sixers hope to keep their top ten protected selection in

2477
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:06,000
Speaker 2: June because they've had a bunch of injuries derail their campaign.

2478
02:11:06,760 --> 02:11:10,080
Speaker 2: But one way to reduce tanking would be to remove

2479
02:11:10,640 --> 02:11:13,840
Speaker 2: the mid lottery pick protections. You either have the pick

2480
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:17,960
Speaker 2: be top four protected, which means the teams who jump

2481
02:11:18,040 --> 02:11:21,360
Speaker 2: in the lottery lottery are protected or unprotected. You tweak

2482
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:24,920
Speaker 2: the remove and then the most egregious examples of tanking

2483
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:29,360
Speaker 2: potentially go away. See it's all about maybe just reforming

2484
02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:33,240
Speaker 2: the lottery and so you have better outcomes. So a

2485
02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:35,160
Speaker 2: team would look at it and say, well, we might

2486
02:11:35,240 --> 02:11:38,640
Speaker 2: have significant benefit for being the third lottery team as

2487
02:11:38,640 --> 02:11:41,120
Speaker 2: opposed to the fourth or the eighth. That's something we

2488
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:44,840
Speaker 2: might want to focus on. Okay, But of course pick

2489
02:11:44,920 --> 02:11:47,560
Speaker 2: protection the issue can cut the other way as well.

2490
02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:50,840
Speaker 2: For instance, if a team has a top ten protected pick,

2491
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:54,600
Speaker 2: which actually matters a lot whether they finish with the

2492
02:11:54,680 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 2: tenth worst record or eleventh worst record. So again, this

2493
02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:01,440
Speaker 2: is a complicated issue. And if, as I said at

2494
02:12:01,480 --> 02:12:04,640
Speaker 2: the top, I have no faith that any of these

2495
02:12:04,640 --> 02:12:06,800
Speaker 2: will be implemented or that any of them work, we

2496
02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:11,440
Speaker 2: are just spitballing here because we have a one time

2497
02:12:11,600 --> 02:12:16,400
Speaker 2: very proud entity in the National Basketball Association, and frankly,

2498
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:20,280
Speaker 2: he's come under tremendous scrutiny, and for very good reason. Okay,

2499
02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:24,000
Speaker 2: how about if you have the lottery odds determined by

2500
02:12:24,080 --> 02:12:28,800
Speaker 2: how those teams fare against each other? Okay. One idea

2501
02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:32,640
Speaker 2: that was bandied about by a couple of executives was

2502
02:12:32,720 --> 02:12:39,080
Speaker 2: to take the fourteen lottery teams or ordered by how

2503
02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:41,480
Speaker 2: they did again, you know, and had to head competition

2504
02:12:41,640 --> 02:12:45,160
Speaker 2: against each other during the regular season. That would give

2505
02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:47,720
Speaker 2: those teams a reason to compete in every game, especially

2506
02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:51,400
Speaker 2: against other lottery bound teams. But this one also comes

2507
02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:54,440
Speaker 2: with an obvious problem the teams that are on the

2508
02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:57,120
Speaker 2: fringes of the playing games, and then it could potentially

2509
02:12:57,200 --> 02:12:59,800
Speaker 2: be pushed to play for a top ten pick in

2510
02:12:59,840 --> 02:13:02,840
Speaker 2: the draft instead of competing for the playoffs. And since

2511
02:13:03,080 --> 02:13:05,560
Speaker 2: again the draft is an inexact art and is an

2512
02:13:05,600 --> 02:13:10,040
Speaker 2: inexact science, how do you really benefit from this? How

2513
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:15,400
Speaker 2: do you know? Finally, you know, maybe just enforce the

2514
02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:18,920
Speaker 2: current rules. All right, A lot of people around the

2515
02:13:19,040 --> 02:13:22,160
Speaker 2: league believe the current system is okay, it's fine, there's

2516
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:25,440
Speaker 2: just nothing you can do. Bad teams exist, fighting for

2517
02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:29,080
Speaker 2: lottery positioning is just part of the sport, and frankly,

2518
02:13:29,160 --> 02:13:30,920
Speaker 2: there are more than a few people that defend it.

2519
02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:34,040
Speaker 2: A lot of people defend it. But with the onset

2520
02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:36,360
Speaker 2: of teams trying to sink to the bottom of the standings,

2521
02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:41,240
Speaker 2: some sources argue that if you can cut down on

2522
02:13:41,320 --> 02:13:44,800
Speaker 2: the influx of teams sitting healthy players, that would fix

2523
02:13:44,880 --> 02:13:47,040
Speaker 2: a lot of the current complaints, as opposed to just

2524
02:13:47,440 --> 02:13:51,400
Speaker 2: tweaking the system. Okay, they could just do that. See, Ultimately,

2525
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:57,760
Speaker 2: getting a top pick does remain the best strategy theoretically

2526
02:13:58,240 --> 02:14:01,920
Speaker 2: and a potentially sure path to you know, getting a

2527
02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:06,080
Speaker 2: franchise changing player. But the NBA has already tried to

2528
02:14:06,120 --> 02:14:09,960
Speaker 2: curtail tanking. They've flattened the lottery odds. As I said,

2529
02:14:10,080 --> 02:14:12,760
Speaker 2: they created playing games to give more teams a reason

2530
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:14,920
Speaker 2: to play through the end of the season, and I

2531
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:18,600
Speaker 2: think those have resulted. It's some positive trends, But tanking,

2532
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:22,600
Speaker 2: I think needs to come up with the NBA's Competition

2533
02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:29,440
Speaker 2: Committee and find some sort of resolution by which it's

2534
02:14:29,520 --> 02:14:34,120
Speaker 2: not so blatantly obvious and brazen. You can't tell me

2535
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:36,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't bother a little bit because there just isn't

2536
02:14:36,240 --> 02:14:39,840
Speaker 2: any guarantee that getting a better pick is going to

2537
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:47,040
Speaker 2: lead the success. It's theoretical. It's theoretical. I would say

2538
02:14:47,320 --> 02:14:50,960
Speaker 2: that if the Competition Committee is worth their salt, this

2539
02:14:51,120 --> 02:14:54,320
Speaker 2: is an issue they absolutely have to have to protect.

2540
02:14:54,480 --> 02:14:58,080
Speaker 2: The NBA has got a very lucrative TV contract, but

2541
02:14:58,280 --> 02:15:02,880
Speaker 2: as you have observed with the empty seats and many

2542
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:06,280
Speaker 2: of the All Star events this weekend, that's a referendum

2543
02:15:06,320 --> 02:15:09,560
Speaker 2: that people aren't necessarily taking this product as seriously as

2544
02:15:09,600 --> 02:15:11,960
Speaker 2: I think Adam Silver and the NBA would like it to.

2545
02:15:13,480 --> 02:15:17,320
Speaker 2: By the way, again, we're hours away from the twenty

2546
02:15:17,400 --> 02:15:20,680
Speaker 2: twenty six All Star game at the Intuit Dome in

2547
02:15:21,080 --> 02:15:24,320
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, which is right down the street from Sofi

2548
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:28,760
Speaker 2: Stadium and not far from Staples. You aware what the

2549
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:30,840
Speaker 2: actual format is going to be and with the rules

2550
02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:34,120
Speaker 2: and scoring and timing and all that stuff. Let's get

2551
02:15:34,160 --> 02:15:35,680
Speaker 2: you up to snuff on that, because it would not

2552
02:15:35,800 --> 02:15:38,240
Speaker 2: surprise me if you were not aware of that. By

2553
02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:41,640
Speaker 2: the way, for the best pregame show every weekend, be

2554
02:15:41,720 --> 02:15:44,880
Speaker 2: sure to tune into Fox Sports Radios count Down to

2555
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2556
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2557
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2558
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:56,080
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2559
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2560
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2561
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2562
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:08,280
Speaker 2: I Am Bernie Frattle. We are coming to your life

2563
02:16:08,280 --> 02:16:11,600
Speaker 2: from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked.

2564
02:16:11,600 --> 02:16:13,040
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2565
02:16:14,560 --> 02:16:17,240
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

2566
02:16:24,120 --> 02:16:26,600
Speaker 2: All right, back to the Bernie Fratle Show. Fox Sports

2567
02:16:26,720 --> 02:16:29,640
Speaker 2: Radio coming to your line from the Las Vegas Fox

2568
02:16:29,960 --> 02:16:35,080
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios. In just hours, you'll be treated to

2569
02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:39,000
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six NBA version of the All Star

2570
02:16:39,160 --> 02:16:42,240
Speaker 2: Game at the end to a dome. And they've introduced,

2571
02:16:42,320 --> 02:16:45,480
Speaker 2: as you may or may not know, a brand new

2572
02:16:45,680 --> 02:16:52,360
Speaker 2: US versus the World ron robin tournament format. Now, if

2573
02:16:52,400 --> 02:16:54,320
Speaker 2: this were going so well, I don't know that they

2574
02:16:54,360 --> 02:16:58,520
Speaker 2: would need the third format change in three years. They

2575
02:16:58,560 --> 02:17:03,360
Speaker 2: are attempting to increase competitive intensity. I don't know if

2576
02:17:03,400 --> 02:17:05,360
Speaker 2: it's gonna work. I have no idea. I do not

2577
02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:08,720
Speaker 2: have high hopes, but be that as it may. Here's

2578
02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:11,840
Speaker 2: how the structure is gonna work later on today, if

2579
02:17:11,879 --> 02:17:15,520
Speaker 2: you are so inclined, the event will consist of four

2580
02:17:15,879 --> 02:17:20,840
Speaker 2: twelve minute games. All right, there are three teams, by

2581
02:17:20,879 --> 02:17:24,000
Speaker 2: the way, Team World you got guys like Nicole Jokich

2582
02:17:24,040 --> 02:17:27,200
Speaker 2: and Luka Doncic. Then you got the USA Stars. These

2583
02:17:27,280 --> 02:17:30,800
Speaker 2: are primarily the younger American born stars like Tyrese Maxey

2584
02:17:30,840 --> 02:17:33,800
Speaker 2: and Anthony Edwards. And then the USA stripes, So you

2585
02:17:33,920 --> 02:17:37,040
Speaker 2: got Stars stripes and Team World stripes are guys like

2586
02:17:37,160 --> 02:17:40,119
Speaker 2: you know, Kevin Durant and Lebron James. I think Bob

2587
02:17:40,200 --> 02:17:42,360
Speaker 2: Coosey ninety seven years old, he might be in the

2588
02:17:42,400 --> 02:17:46,720
Speaker 2: game as well. So how's it gonna work. Well, there

2589
02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:55,320
Speaker 2: will be three round robin games, okay, and the three

2590
02:17:55,400 --> 02:17:59,560
Speaker 2: teams will each play each other once. The two teams

2591
02:17:59,600 --> 02:18:03,520
Speaker 2: with the best records after the round robin stage advanced

2592
02:18:03,560 --> 02:18:09,440
Speaker 2: to a final twelve minute game to determine the winner.

2593
02:18:10,280 --> 02:18:12,200
Speaker 2: If all the teams finish at one and one, the

2594
02:18:12,280 --> 02:18:17,560
Speaker 2: first tiebreaker is the total point differential from the round

2595
02:18:17,680 --> 02:18:23,439
Speaker 2: robin games. All right, so they've abandoned again the traditional

2596
02:18:23,560 --> 02:18:28,199
Speaker 2: East versus West set up. Instead, you've got three squads,

2597
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:32,840
Speaker 2: two American born teams, and one international team. And so

2598
02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:38,840
Speaker 2: you know, there are twenty four total All Stars that

2599
02:18:39,000 --> 02:18:47,800
Speaker 2: were selected regardless of position, and I just I'm almost

2600
02:18:47,800 --> 02:18:50,520
Speaker 2: sort of like speechless by the way. They're competing for

2601
02:18:50,640 --> 02:19:01,119
Speaker 2: a million point eight prize pool, as it were. And yeah,

2602
02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:05,960
Speaker 2: I guess it gives you a chance to to see

2603
02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:12,600
Speaker 2: these various players that you watched throughout the season. Game one,

2604
02:19:12,959 --> 02:19:16,240
Speaker 2: I don't know it starts at five o'clock Eastern. I

2605
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:20,240
Speaker 2: think it starts at two o'clock Pacific ninety nine for sure,

2606
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:23,080
Speaker 2: that's accurate. So the first game is going to be

2607
02:19:23,160 --> 02:19:28,600
Speaker 2: the World versus USA Stars and oh, by the way,

2608
02:19:28,600 --> 02:19:32,600
Speaker 2: I should mention that Detroit coach Piston's coach has done

2609
02:19:32,640 --> 02:19:38,000
Speaker 2: a fabulous job JB. Bickerstaff and san Antonio Spurs their

2610
02:19:38,000 --> 02:19:40,160
Speaker 2: head coach Mitch Johnson, who's done a great job too.

2611
02:19:40,640 --> 02:19:44,600
Speaker 2: They'll lead the Stars and Straps respectively. Where the Raptors

2612
02:19:44,680 --> 02:19:49,840
Speaker 2: head coach Darko, he's from Serbia, He's going to lead

2613
02:19:50,200 --> 02:19:55,160
Speaker 2: Team World. On paper, there is a lot of talent, okay,

2614
02:19:55,840 --> 02:19:59,920
Speaker 2: Team USA has got Jalen Brown, Jalen Brunts and Steph Kurr,

2615
02:20:00,200 --> 02:20:04,920
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, Dearon Fox, Brandon Ingram le Bron, James Kawhi, Leonard,

2616
02:20:04,920 --> 02:20:07,920
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, and then the younger Stars teams Scottie Barnes,

2617
02:20:07,959 --> 02:20:12,800
Speaker 2: Devin Booker, Kid coming in, Jalen duran Uh fresh off

2618
02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:16,640
Speaker 2: their fight the other night, Anthony Edwards, Chet Holmgren, Jalen Johnson,

2619
02:20:16,680 --> 02:20:20,800
Speaker 2: Taris Maxi. The World team though, to me, looks down

2620
02:20:20,920 --> 02:20:27,400
Speaker 2: right scary. Seriously, you got Giannis Luka, Doncic, Sai Gilgess,

2621
02:20:27,400 --> 02:20:33,800
Speaker 2: Alexander Nikola, Jokic, Jamal Murray, Norman, Paul Farrenson, Gwynn Pascal Siakam,

2622
02:20:33,879 --> 02:20:38,000
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns, and Victor wimbin Yama. I'm gonna go

2623
02:20:38,040 --> 02:20:40,200
Speaker 2: out on a limbit. They play hard, and there's absolutely

2624
02:20:40,320 --> 02:20:45,959
Speaker 2: no guarantee. Well they might come out and play lights out.

2625
02:20:46,040 --> 02:20:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think anybody beats that World team.

2626
02:20:50,400 --> 02:20:54,200
Speaker 2: If if everybody brings their best and everybody brings their

2627
02:20:54,480 --> 02:20:57,880
Speaker 2: their A game and one hundred percent effort, and you

2628
02:20:58,000 --> 02:21:01,120
Speaker 2: find yourself in a situation where it's a real a

2629
02:21:01,200 --> 02:21:04,720
Speaker 2: basketball game like the All Star Game used to be.

2630
02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:10,800
Speaker 2: There was a time that that really happened. Although I guess,

2631
02:21:10,920 --> 02:21:13,840
Speaker 2: you know, I should do better homework. I shake Gilder,

2632
02:21:13,920 --> 02:21:15,720
Speaker 2: I guess he's probably not going to play. Neither is

2633
02:21:15,720 --> 02:21:20,840
Speaker 2: Steph Curry. And Giannis probably won't play. And I'm hearing

2634
02:21:20,920 --> 02:21:23,800
Speaker 2: now that Norm Powell moves to Team World. So make

2635
02:21:23,840 --> 02:21:26,160
Speaker 2: it up as you go along, because that's apparently what

2636
02:21:26,320 --> 02:21:31,600
Speaker 2: the NBA seems to be doing as well. I will

2637
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:36,280
Speaker 2: be very curious to see what the TV ratings are

2638
02:21:36,360 --> 02:21:40,560
Speaker 2: for this. More than anything. Throughout many of the All

2639
02:21:40,640 --> 02:21:45,240
Speaker 2: Star Game weekend activities, there were a lot of empty seats,

2640
02:21:46,000 --> 02:21:48,560
Speaker 2: and that's got to be unsettling if you're an NBA fan,

2641
02:21:48,640 --> 02:21:50,640
Speaker 2: if you're an NBA executive, if you're an NBA player,

2642
02:21:50,800 --> 02:21:53,160
Speaker 2: whatever the case would be, that's got to be a

2643
02:21:53,200 --> 02:21:57,720
Speaker 2: little unsettling. By the way, for the best pregame show

2644
02:21:57,920 --> 02:22:02,680
Speaker 2: every weekend, be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio's

2645
02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:07,000
Speaker 2: Countdown presented by BETMGM, every Saturday and Sunday morning. We'll

2646
02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:08,560
Speaker 2: count you down to all the biggest games for three

2647
02:22:08,600 --> 02:22:11,640
Speaker 2: hours right up until kickoff. For all of the best

2648
02:22:11,680 --> 02:22:14,680
Speaker 2: plays and up to the second injury news tuned into

2649
02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:17,600
Speaker 2: Countdown to Kickoff, presented by BETMGM every Saturday and Sunday

2650
02:22:17,640 --> 02:22:19,680
Speaker 2: morning right here on the Fox Sports Radio and the

2651
02:22:19,840 --> 02:22:23,960
Speaker 2: iHeart Radio app. Well, we are just one hundred and

2652
02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:27,120
Speaker 2: sixteen days away until the twenty twenty six feet of

2653
02:22:27,160 --> 02:22:31,360
Speaker 2: World Cup kicks off right here in the good old USA.

2654
02:22:32,240 --> 02:22:37,240
Speaker 2: Begins Thursday, June eleventh, twenty twenty six. All in all

2655
02:22:37,320 --> 02:22:40,040
Speaker 2: will be one hundred and four matches forty eight teams competing.

2656
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:45,080
Speaker 2: Games will be played in Canada, Mexico, and the United

2657
02:22:45,120 --> 02:22:50,480
Speaker 2: States and many cities including Los Angeles. The anticipation is

2658
02:22:51,000 --> 02:22:56,320
Speaker 2: really starting to build, and the tournament will run all

2659
02:22:56,360 --> 02:23:00,640
Speaker 2: the way through July nineteenth, So we're talking about thirty

2660
02:23:00,920 --> 02:23:04,080
Speaker 2: seven days of soccer bliss for a lot of folks.

2661
02:23:04,879 --> 02:23:07,160
Speaker 2: This is the first time the nation checked that the

2662
02:23:07,200 --> 02:23:10,680
Speaker 2: first time the event will be actually hosted the singular

2663
02:23:10,720 --> 02:23:15,200
Speaker 2: event by three separate nations, US, Canada and Mexico. And

2664
02:23:15,320 --> 02:23:18,800
Speaker 2: the field have been expanded forty eight teams. Well that's

2665
02:23:18,959 --> 02:23:24,360
Speaker 2: new as well. Ken for once, the USA team makes

2666
02:23:24,440 --> 02:23:28,520
Speaker 2: some noise, depending on how you define Mickey noise. How

2667
02:23:28,600 --> 02:23:30,560
Speaker 2: the hell do I know, but I do know. It's

2668
02:23:31,240 --> 02:23:33,320
Speaker 2: time for Christophet's World of Soccer.

2669
02:23:35,320 --> 02:23:45,800
Speaker 21: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum.

2670
02:23:51,200 --> 02:23:54,520
Speaker 1: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

2671
02:23:54,640 --> 02:23:56,880
Speaker 22: We're gonna start the World of Soccer this week, Bernie

2672
02:23:56,920 --> 02:24:01,160
Speaker 22: by talking a little bit of World Cup scub. Sorry

2673
02:24:01,200 --> 02:24:05,280
Speaker 22: I use scub sometimes just means drama, nonsense, all those

2674
02:24:05,400 --> 02:24:07,400
Speaker 22: kind of things. And we have to go up to

2675
02:24:07,440 --> 02:24:11,680
Speaker 22: the great state of Massachusetts, where what should be something

2676
02:24:11,760 --> 02:24:17,520
Speaker 22: fairly routine is having some civic issues. So we know

2677
02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:22,320
Speaker 22: that Bobkraft, the Craft Group and Jillette Stadium where the

2678
02:24:22,360 --> 02:24:25,840
Speaker 22: Patriots play, bid on the FIFA World Cup coming up

2679
02:24:25,879 --> 02:24:28,320
Speaker 22: here in the summer of twenty twenty six, and they

2680
02:24:28,400 --> 02:24:29,680
Speaker 22: want to host games up there.

2681
02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:31,119
Speaker 23: It would be a very big thing.

2682
02:24:31,879 --> 02:24:35,280
Speaker 22: Foxboro officials and Boston twenty twenty six officials have met

2683
02:24:35,360 --> 02:24:37,560
Speaker 22: several times. However, there seems to be a really big

2684
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:41,040
Speaker 22: snag on all of this. Nobody's sure who's paying for

2685
02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:46,360
Speaker 22: this right now, specifically a multimillion dollar around eight million

2686
02:24:46,480 --> 02:24:51,120
Speaker 22: dollars security bill that nobody seems to really want to

2687
02:24:51,160 --> 02:24:54,680
Speaker 22: pick up the tab for. Because Bobcraft and the Craft

2688
02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:56,480
Speaker 22: Group made a bid for the game, but they leased

2689
02:24:56,520 --> 02:25:00,880
Speaker 22: the stadium to FIFA. Security falls into the hand of

2690
02:25:01,400 --> 02:25:06,240
Speaker 22: Foxborough itself, which Foxborough is a very small town and

2691
02:25:06,320 --> 02:25:08,440
Speaker 22: we must remember it would have to deal with a

2692
02:25:08,600 --> 02:25:11,119
Speaker 22: massive amount of people coming in from the Boston area

2693
02:25:11,760 --> 02:25:16,000
Speaker 22: and quite simply doesn't have the money. Now, there has

2694
02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:20,080
Speaker 22: been six hundred and I believe twenty five million dollars

2695
02:25:20,240 --> 02:25:24,360
Speaker 22: set aside by the federal government for the US is

2696
02:25:24,360 --> 02:25:29,760
Speaker 22: eleven host cities to enhance security and preparedness. But however

2697
02:25:30,400 --> 02:25:33,600
Speaker 22: that money hasn't gone to Foxborough. It's unclear how much

2698
02:25:33,640 --> 02:25:37,959
Speaker 22: Foxborough would even receive at the moment from that ear mark,

2699
02:25:38,480 --> 02:25:43,040
Speaker 22: and Foxborough has straight up said that they cannot they

2700
02:25:43,080 --> 02:25:46,160
Speaker 22: don't have the funds to foot the bill now and

2701
02:25:46,280 --> 02:25:50,760
Speaker 22: wait for someone to pay them later. So the deadline

2702
02:25:50,800 --> 02:25:53,400
Speaker 22: to approve this license is March seventeen, So he means

2703
02:25:53,400 --> 02:25:56,840
Speaker 22: we've got about a month to resolve this particular issue,

2704
02:25:56,879 --> 02:26:01,360
Speaker 22: which really shouldn't be a a an issue, but I mean,

2705
02:26:01,440 --> 02:26:01,960
Speaker 22: here we are.

2706
02:26:03,240 --> 02:26:03,440
Speaker 2: Look.

2707
02:26:03,520 --> 02:26:07,520
Speaker 22: The president of World Cup Boston downplay the controversy. He

2708
02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:10,160
Speaker 22: said that the funding issue will be resolved by the

2709
02:26:10,240 --> 02:26:13,080
Speaker 22: select Board on next Tuesday, but keep an eye on that.

2710
02:26:14,120 --> 02:26:17,480
Speaker 23: This should be something that should be resolved, we would hope.

2711
02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:21,240
Speaker 22: But I mean, if Foxborough is really in some trouble

2712
02:26:21,280 --> 02:26:23,880
Speaker 22: and this money isn't going to them, I've got some

2713
02:26:24,080 --> 02:26:27,480
Speaker 22: questions about how smooth a lot of this will be.

2714
02:26:28,160 --> 02:26:31,520
Speaker 22: Now with the FA Cup ongoing over in England, I

2715
02:26:31,680 --> 02:26:35,680
Speaker 22: should mention that Wrexham won their match, Liverpool won their match.

2716
02:26:35,800 --> 02:26:39,720
Speaker 22: Mohammed Sala has been utterly terrific with a penalty goal.

2717
02:26:40,400 --> 02:26:43,800
Speaker 22: You know, more of Sala coming in spite of them

2718
02:26:43,879 --> 02:26:46,920
Speaker 22: not moving him at the transfer window, like I believe

2719
02:26:47,000 --> 02:26:49,640
Speaker 22: some thought. But I want to take you on a

2720
02:26:49,760 --> 02:26:53,800
Speaker 22: very funny tour over to Saudi Arabia to check in

2721
02:26:53,920 --> 02:26:58,040
Speaker 22: with Christiano Ronaldo. Now, speaking of that transfer window, this

2722
02:26:58,200 --> 02:27:00,760
Speaker 22: is maybe some of the results of not going out

2723
02:27:00,840 --> 02:27:05,440
Speaker 22: there and playing hard for that transfer window. Christian alle Ronaldo,

2724
02:27:05,440 --> 02:27:09,000
Speaker 22: of course part of the Saudi side All Nasser, he

2725
02:27:09,160 --> 02:27:12,720
Speaker 22: had been boycotting the club's past two Saudi.

2726
02:27:12,440 --> 02:27:16,280
Speaker 23: Pro League matches. Yes, he had been like in protest,

2727
02:27:16,440 --> 02:27:16,959
Speaker 23: sitting out.

2728
02:27:17,280 --> 02:27:19,440
Speaker 22: And why is that, Well, I just mentioned the transfer window,

2729
02:27:19,920 --> 02:27:22,760
Speaker 22: and it is because he believes that the club did

2730
02:27:22,840 --> 02:27:25,080
Speaker 22: not invest enough in the transfer window to get him

2731
02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:26,720
Speaker 22: more help and help him.

2732
02:27:26,560 --> 02:27:27,760
Speaker 23: Continue to build a team there.

2733
02:27:28,360 --> 02:27:31,280
Speaker 22: And has been pointed out by several observers, there is

2734
02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:33,320
Speaker 22: a bit of a conflict of interest when it comes

2735
02:27:33,440 --> 02:27:36,720
Speaker 22: to a lot of this stuff. So All Naser is

2736
02:27:37,160 --> 02:27:41,439
Speaker 22: mostly funded by the Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund the PIF,

2737
02:27:41,560 --> 02:27:44,000
Speaker 22: which I'm sure if you checked into the business with

2738
02:27:44,080 --> 02:27:46,720
Speaker 22: sports in the North America you've heard plenty about the

2739
02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:49,920
Speaker 22: Saudi Investment Fund. They have their claws into a lot

2740
02:27:49,959 --> 02:27:53,600
Speaker 22: of things. They did not really invest in All Naser

2741
02:27:54,080 --> 02:27:57,959
Speaker 22: around the transfer window. However, they did invest fairly well

2742
02:27:58,680 --> 02:28:03,680
Speaker 22: in Al Nasser's rival, All Hallal, bringing in Kareem Benzama

2743
02:28:04,320 --> 02:28:08,400
Speaker 22: from Al Ittahad to help them bolster up their squad

2744
02:28:08,520 --> 02:28:12,080
Speaker 22: as those two fight for basically places one and two.

2745
02:28:12,879 --> 02:28:15,879
Speaker 22: Al Halal and Al Naser are very old, very very

2746
02:28:16,120 --> 02:28:20,080
Speaker 22: heated rivals, and Al Halal is seventy five percent majority

2747
02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:24,200
Speaker 22: owned by the public investment fund. Ronaldo, of course, on Saturday,

2748
02:28:24,320 --> 02:28:28,600
Speaker 22: actually ended his boycott swiftly scored just eighteen minutes coming

2749
02:28:28,680 --> 02:28:31,480
Speaker 22: off the bench to immediately find the back of the net.

2750
02:28:32,120 --> 02:28:36,320
Speaker 22: Two to zero winners over Al Fata and they are

2751
02:28:36,440 --> 02:28:39,080
Speaker 22: now second in the Pro League standings, one point behind

2752
02:28:39,240 --> 02:28:44,560
Speaker 22: All Hallal. But it is a very interesting conflict of

2753
02:28:44,640 --> 02:28:47,960
Speaker 22: interest where money is concerned. Who gets to be the

2754
02:28:48,040 --> 02:28:51,080
Speaker 22: brightest child among all the collections when everyone gets that

2755
02:28:51,240 --> 02:28:54,080
Speaker 22: kind of money, I really do wonder. Meanwhile, over in Germany,

2756
02:28:54,200 --> 02:28:58,039
Speaker 22: Harry Kane, the English star formerly of Hotspur, has once

2757
02:28:58,080 --> 02:29:02,280
Speaker 22: again added to his goals with his five hundredth career

2758
02:29:02,640 --> 02:29:06,000
Speaker 22: goal in a Buyern win. Just keeps continuing to have

2759
02:29:06,200 --> 02:29:09,560
Speaker 22: some of his best years since leaving England. Something to

2760
02:29:09,640 --> 02:29:11,760
Speaker 22: keep an eye on, and keep an eye out there

2761
02:29:11,840 --> 02:29:14,480
Speaker 22: on the socials because World Cup kits are coming out.

2762
02:29:15,000 --> 02:29:18,280
Speaker 22: I just saw Jamaica's and they are doing a Bob

2763
02:29:18,440 --> 02:29:23,040
Speaker 22: Marley inspired jersey from Adidas I released a week after

2764
02:29:23,120 --> 02:29:27,520
Speaker 22: Bob Marley's birthday and really cannot wait to see those

2765
02:29:27,600 --> 02:29:29,560
Speaker 22: of the World Cup or give one for myself.

2766
02:29:29,920 --> 02:29:31,760
Speaker 23: We'll see you next time on the World of Soccer.

2767
02:29:33,480 --> 02:29:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, fast and furious, one hundred and sixteen days and

2768
02:29:38,440 --> 02:29:41,280
Speaker 2: we will be rocking and rolling, and trust me, the

2769
02:29:41,400 --> 02:29:45,080
Speaker 2: TV ratings will be phenomenal. Five hundred million people if

2770
02:29:45,080 --> 02:29:49,040
Speaker 2: I tried to enter the lottery to get tickets to

2771
02:29:49,120 --> 02:29:52,760
Speaker 2: the World Cup. It's really an event. I was fortunate

2772
02:29:52,879 --> 02:29:56,520
Speaker 2: to ten one World Cup event. When I first got

2773
02:29:56,600 --> 02:30:00,760
Speaker 2: to Detroit, i'd been there about eight nine months, and

2774
02:30:00,920 --> 02:30:04,480
Speaker 2: so June ninety four there were World Cups games played

2775
02:30:04,520 --> 02:30:07,400
Speaker 2: Detroit the old Silver Dome, so I was there right.

2776
02:30:07,440 --> 02:30:11,400
Speaker 2: I got to cover the USA versus Switzerland. Man, until

2777
02:30:11,440 --> 02:30:14,440
Speaker 2: you actually see it in person, and the way they

2778
02:30:14,520 --> 02:30:17,120
Speaker 2: transform that stadium and you look like you're kind of

2779
02:30:17,200 --> 02:30:20,120
Speaker 2: like almost in a foreign country. But this pomping circumstance

2780
02:30:20,280 --> 02:30:23,920
Speaker 2: was just unbelievable. So I would say this, I think

2781
02:30:23,959 --> 02:30:25,560
Speaker 2: the World Cup will be a big hit this year,

2782
02:30:25,640 --> 02:30:27,480
Speaker 2: no matter who wins it, and it'll get a hell

2783
02:30:27,520 --> 02:30:30,120
Speaker 2: of a lot more run than you may realize. Coming up,

2784
02:30:30,160 --> 02:30:32,920
Speaker 2: we wrap up the show, and when I give everybody

2785
02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:37,680
Speaker 2: a big congratulations, I'll explain. I'm Bernie Fraddlewic keviny Lyve

2786
02:30:37,720 --> 02:30:40,160
Speaker 2: from Las Vegas. Fox Sports Radio Studios keep it locked.

2787
02:30:40,400 --> 02:30:42,039
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show.

2788
02:30:41,879 --> 02:30:44,920
Speaker 12: And Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup

2789
02:30:44,959 --> 02:30:48,000
Speaker 12: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports

2790
02:30:48,120 --> 02:30:52,400
Speaker 12: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR

2791
02:30:52,560 --> 02:30:53,360
Speaker 12: to listen live.

2792
02:31:00,920 --> 02:31:03,560
Speaker 2: All right, we are wrapping it up on the Bernie

2793
02:31:03,560 --> 02:31:08,480
Speaker 2: Fratto Show. I think my producers Mark and Brandon turning

2794
02:31:08,520 --> 02:31:11,879
Speaker 2: all the dials, keeping us glued together, taking the phone calls,

2795
02:31:11,959 --> 02:31:15,160
Speaker 2: managing the clock, the rundown, all that good stuff so

2796
02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:20,240
Speaker 2: we can bring you this radio show. Appreciate all the efforts.

2797
02:31:21,680 --> 02:31:25,360
Speaker 2: By the way, the callers tonight were spectacular as usual.

2798
02:31:26,080 --> 02:31:32,360
Speaker 2: In the midnight hour, we talked about Dion and how

2799
02:31:32,520 --> 02:31:35,520
Speaker 2: upset he was. He thought, what transpired wash your door?

2800
02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:39,920
Speaker 2: We kind of debunked that a little bit situation regarding

2801
02:31:41,520 --> 02:31:44,800
Speaker 2: Randy Moss implying that only players should vote on the

2802
02:31:44,840 --> 02:31:48,560
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, and some good discussions there. And then

2803
02:31:48,600 --> 02:31:52,760
Speaker 2: of course JJ Reddick said it. He said, Bronnie earned it,

2804
02:31:53,120 --> 02:31:56,360
Speaker 2: He earned a roster spot. So I realized that the

2805
02:31:56,440 --> 02:32:01,119
Speaker 2: world is a vexing enough place without hypotheticals. But hypothetically,

2806
02:32:01,160 --> 02:32:03,320
Speaker 2: if Lebron, if this was last year. We all know

2807
02:32:03,440 --> 02:32:08,280
Speaker 2: it's not, but if it were, and since J. J.

2808
02:32:08,440 --> 02:32:12,440
Speaker 2: Reddick says he earned it, Brownie earned it. If this

2809
02:32:12,520 --> 02:32:14,720
Speaker 2: were Lebron's last year, will Brownie have a spot on

2810
02:32:14,760 --> 02:32:17,640
Speaker 2: the Lakers next year? Be interesting to see, interesting to watch,

2811
02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:23,240
Speaker 2: sort of kind of. Congratulations to all you made it

2812
02:32:23,360 --> 02:32:28,040
Speaker 2: through the first official weekend without football. Only twenty seven

2813
02:32:28,200 --> 02:32:31,800
Speaker 2: more of these and football is back. But what a

2814
02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:35,160
Speaker 2: weekend this has been. Friday night, well that was Friday,

2815
02:32:35,200 --> 02:32:41,560
Speaker 2: the thirteenth, Saturday was Valentine's Day and Sunday, well, we've

2816
02:32:41,560 --> 02:32:45,199
Speaker 2: saved the best for last. The NBA All Star Game,

2817
02:32:45,480 --> 02:32:49,560
Speaker 2: or moreover, the three team USA versus World round robin

2818
02:32:49,640 --> 02:32:52,440
Speaker 2: tournament format, the third change in three years to the

2819
02:32:52,520 --> 02:32:55,680
Speaker 2: old traditional All Star Game format, since that works so well.

2820
02:32:56,280 --> 02:32:59,840
Speaker 2: But as often people have said they've referred to the

2821
02:33:00,120 --> 02:33:03,920
Speaker 2: NBA All Star Game as the greatest sporting spectacle of

2822
02:33:03,959 --> 02:33:09,080
Speaker 2: all time, said, no one ever, not even close. But

2823
02:33:09,200 --> 02:33:12,960
Speaker 2: what the hell the NBA? Well, it's now slowly become

2824
02:33:13,040 --> 02:33:17,000
Speaker 2: to meet the Falkers League. Everybody gets a partition patient trophy.

2825
02:33:17,320 --> 02:33:21,119
Speaker 2: There are thirty teams. You play six months to eliminate

2826
02:33:21,280 --> 02:33:25,640
Speaker 2: ten teams twenty make it ten? Don't everybody makes millions? Hell,

2827
02:33:25,720 --> 02:33:27,800
Speaker 2: you don't even have to produce results. Man, you don't

2828
02:33:27,800 --> 02:33:29,520
Speaker 2: even have to show up to work if you don't

2829
02:33:29,560 --> 02:33:33,800
Speaker 2: want to. And the rest of the folks and the rest, well,

2830
02:33:33,800 --> 02:33:36,120
Speaker 2: the rest of us, well, I guess we're supposedly just

2831
02:33:36,200 --> 02:33:39,760
Speaker 2: simply not smart enough to graft this concept and understand

2832
02:33:39,840 --> 02:33:43,480
Speaker 2: the new fangled genius strategy of loading the shorts management.

2833
02:33:43,760 --> 02:33:47,840
Speaker 2: So while we're at it, where does the NBA stand

2834
02:33:47,879 --> 02:33:50,320
Speaker 2: today in the lexicono sports? Why don't we try a

2835
02:33:50,360 --> 02:33:56,160
Speaker 2: little word association game. For instance, you mentioned NFL, I

2836
02:33:56,240 --> 02:34:03,520
Speaker 2: say the King, You mentioned MLB, I say anticipation, You

2837
02:34:03,680 --> 02:34:13,240
Speaker 2: mentioned NHL. Let's say Olympics. You mentioned NBA tanking? Yes,

2838
02:34:14,160 --> 02:34:19,080
Speaker 2: and why not? You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

2839
02:34:20,360 --> 02:34:22,840
Speaker 2: You know, like if you play your current's right and

2840
02:34:22,959 --> 02:34:26,080
Speaker 2: you see all your starters in the fourth quarter, well

2841
02:34:26,120 --> 02:34:28,679
Speaker 2: you might just durn the right to draft it transcended

2842
02:34:28,760 --> 02:34:32,480
Speaker 2: being like you know, Mark hill Foltz or Andrea Barniani

2843
02:34:33,120 --> 02:34:36,039
Speaker 2: or how about Ben Simmons or DeAndre Aiden or maybe

2844
02:34:36,080 --> 02:34:40,280
Speaker 2: the legendary Anthony Bennett. Yeah, no, wonder team's tank because

2845
02:34:40,320 --> 02:34:46,320
Speaker 2: it works so well. Huh, But I digress. You want

2846
02:34:46,360 --> 02:34:50,080
Speaker 2: to fix the problem, how about try this on for size.

2847
02:34:50,920 --> 02:34:53,600
Speaker 2: Here's what I do. You want the first pick in

2848
02:34:53,640 --> 02:34:58,160
Speaker 2: the NBA. Fine, win the NBA championship. That's right, Give

2849
02:34:58,200 --> 02:35:01,520
Speaker 2: it to the NBA champion, and the number two pick

2850
02:35:01,640 --> 02:35:03,600
Speaker 2: to the finals loser, and right on down the line.

2851
02:35:04,320 --> 02:35:09,000
Speaker 2: You make the playoffs, your draft higher, advance in the playoffs,

2852
02:35:09,480 --> 02:35:14,440
Speaker 2: you draft even higher, depending how far you advance. You

2853
02:35:14,520 --> 02:35:18,960
Speaker 2: want to lose? You like losing, good for you. I

2854
02:35:19,120 --> 02:35:25,720
Speaker 2: believe in rewarding excellence and determination and quality and effort.

2855
02:35:26,120 --> 02:35:30,280
Speaker 2: I don't believe in rewarding stupidity. By the way, in

2856
02:35:30,400 --> 02:35:34,879
Speaker 2: case you missed it, Saturday, huge props to Keith Shadd Johnson,

2857
02:35:35,640 --> 02:35:39,240
Speaker 2: not KEI Shawn Johnson told me the damn ball. Keith

2858
02:35:39,240 --> 02:35:44,360
Speaker 2: Shadd Johnson, he won this Land Dunk Contest. Congratulations to

2859
02:35:44,440 --> 02:35:49,400
Speaker 2: Team Nicks. They claimed the Shooting Stars event. Big props

2860
02:35:49,440 --> 02:35:53,039
Speaker 2: to Damon Lillard even though he was hurt. Third three

2861
02:35:53,160 --> 02:35:56,760
Speaker 2: point Contest winner and Rising Stars led the way on

2862
02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:01,040
Speaker 2: All Star Friday. But I bet you knew all of

2863
02:36:01,080 --> 02:36:07,000
Speaker 2: that or did you? Well? Take heart? Maybe football never

2864
02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:10,640
Speaker 2: really left starting the seventeenth. There's going to be all

2865
02:36:10,959 --> 02:36:16,080
Speaker 2: kinds of events on the calendar, you know, leading up

2866
02:36:16,160 --> 02:36:19,960
Speaker 2: to well, the things you look forward to, right the

2867
02:36:20,040 --> 02:36:26,680
Speaker 2: things you look forward to, franchise, transition players, scouting, combine underwear, Olympics,

2868
02:36:27,240 --> 02:36:31,760
Speaker 2: the Draft, the pre draft, you know, all that good stuff.

2869
02:36:32,760 --> 02:36:36,880
Speaker 2: You get into OTAs you get into winter meetings, Spring meetings.

2870
02:36:37,520 --> 02:36:39,680
Speaker 2: Before you know, it'll be June and you have your

2871
02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:45,119
Speaker 2: unrestricted and restricted free agents, the qualifying offers, teams match,

2872
02:36:45,160 --> 02:36:48,120
Speaker 2: you start to get your rosters, and then you get

2873
02:36:48,160 --> 02:36:52,080
Speaker 2: into July and you know what happens next. So it

2874
02:36:52,160 --> 02:36:53,840
Speaker 2: has a way, the future has a way of arriving

2875
02:36:53,840 --> 02:36:55,720
Speaker 2: ahead of schedule. We have a lot to happen between

2876
02:36:55,760 --> 02:36:57,640
Speaker 2: now and then, not the least of which is this, again,

2877
02:36:58,120 --> 02:37:01,720
Speaker 2: in case you missed it, this three team USA World

2878
02:37:01,959 --> 02:37:07,040
Speaker 2: versus USA at the Department of Redundancy Department round robin format.

2879
02:37:07,600 --> 02:37:11,320
Speaker 2: They've abandoned the traditional East versus West setup. You got

2880
02:37:11,360 --> 02:37:15,080
Speaker 2: three squads, two American born teams, USA Stars and Stripes,

2881
02:37:15,520 --> 02:37:20,120
Speaker 2: one international team. They'll compete in twelve minute games, with

2882
02:37:20,200 --> 02:37:24,000
Speaker 2: the top two records advancing to a final championship game.

2883
02:37:25,440 --> 02:37:28,800
Speaker 2: So there you have it. The more things stay the

2884
02:37:28,840 --> 02:37:31,160
Speaker 2: same the more they change. That doesn't make any sense.

2885
02:37:32,040 --> 02:37:35,520
Speaker 2: But I will say this, if you observe those empty

2886
02:37:35,600 --> 02:37:40,920
Speaker 2: seats in the Intuit Dome and you're an NFL, you're

2887
02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:43,560
Speaker 2: an NBA executive, you're an NBA fan, an NBA plaint

2888
02:37:43,680 --> 02:37:49,000
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, you can't have had a

2889
02:37:49,080 --> 02:37:52,840
Speaker 2: good feeling about that. You know, once again, the NBA

2890
02:37:53,000 --> 02:37:57,160
Speaker 2: is trying another format for All Star weekend. Fourth All

2891
02:37:57,240 --> 02:38:00,120
Speaker 2: Star Game format in four years. Is they try to

2892
02:38:00,200 --> 02:38:05,240
Speaker 2: answer one of the biggest existential questions facing society. How

2893
02:38:05,280 --> 02:38:07,840
Speaker 2: do you get the players to play hard? How do

2894
02:38:07,879 --> 02:38:10,400
Speaker 2: you get the players to care about this mid season

2895
02:38:10,920 --> 02:38:16,840
Speaker 2: supposed to be showcase? Victor Wim Mignana believes this game

2896
02:38:16,879 --> 02:38:19,440
Speaker 2: should matter. So I think the World Stars are going

2897
02:38:19,520 --> 02:38:22,160
Speaker 2: to have a little bit of incentive. But the team

2898
02:38:22,240 --> 02:38:24,640
Speaker 2: of veteran American All Stars, you really think they're gonna

2899
02:38:24,640 --> 02:38:29,520
Speaker 2: play hard? Okay, then don't tell me. Show me a

2900
02:38:29,600 --> 02:38:32,080
Speaker 2: team of younger US players and the third team represented

2901
02:38:32,120 --> 02:38:34,800
Speaker 2: the rest of the world. There you have it. Some

2902
02:38:35,080 --> 02:38:39,000
Speaker 2: called it bold, maybe it is. Some call it different. Well,

2903
02:38:39,040 --> 02:38:42,040
Speaker 2: it is different. The question is, and we don't know

2904
02:38:42,200 --> 02:38:44,200
Speaker 2: the question. We don't just get to check that We

2905
02:38:44,280 --> 02:38:46,440
Speaker 2: don't know the answer. We know the question, we know

2906
02:38:46,600 --> 02:38:50,879
Speaker 2: the answer. Will it make the All Stars give an effort,

2907
02:38:51,080 --> 02:38:53,840
Speaker 2: at least give more of an effort than they have,

2908
02:38:54,760 --> 02:38:58,039
Speaker 2: you know, just put on display in these glorified pickup

2909
02:38:58,080 --> 02:39:01,200
Speaker 2: games over the past twenty years. It's been twenty years now.

2910
02:39:02,200 --> 02:39:06,160
Speaker 2: And will this set up perhaps drawing TV viewers who

2911
02:39:07,720 --> 02:39:12,680
Speaker 2: might be distracted from watching the Winter Olympics. I don't know.

2912
02:39:13,440 --> 02:39:18,080
Speaker 2: It has a chance to. One of the reasons is

2913
02:39:19,240 --> 02:39:23,480
Speaker 2: one of the great Many of the great players in

2914
02:39:23,560 --> 02:39:25,400
Speaker 2: the NBA that have come into the league in the

2915
02:39:25,480 --> 02:39:29,200
Speaker 2: last decade have been increasingly foreign players. And then I

2916
02:39:29,280 --> 02:39:31,120
Speaker 2: think they have some pride. And there's some pride in

2917
02:39:31,120 --> 02:39:34,600
Speaker 2: the American side too, I guess as well, so because

2918
02:39:34,680 --> 02:39:36,800
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, you represent your country more

2919
02:39:36,840 --> 02:39:40,720
Speaker 2: than just playing for personal pride. But I'm not so sure. Okay,

2920
02:39:41,800 --> 02:39:44,360
Speaker 2: it is what it is. It's as Anthony Edwards said,

2921
02:39:45,680 --> 02:39:49,200
Speaker 2: you debut this new concept in a brand new arena,

2922
02:39:49,760 --> 02:39:53,520
Speaker 2: this futuristic two billion dollar basketball shrine, hoping by the

2923
02:39:53,560 --> 02:39:58,000
Speaker 2: Clippers owner. And you know, JB. Bickerstaff said his guys

2924
02:39:58,040 --> 02:40:00,360
Speaker 2: are coming to play. He's coaching the younger America team.

2925
02:40:00,800 --> 02:40:05,160
Speaker 2: He said, they're going to set a tone, and you

2926
02:40:05,240 --> 02:40:07,400
Speaker 2: know they're They're called the Stars, and the older players

2927
02:40:07,440 --> 02:40:11,400
Speaker 2: are called the Stripes. And the world team has you know,

2928
02:40:12,280 --> 02:40:16,240
Speaker 2: Wenby and Luca and Nicole joke, but you also got

2929
02:40:16,320 --> 02:40:20,800
Speaker 2: Norman Powell, Karl Anthony Towns. That's a pretty darn good team,

2930
02:40:21,240 --> 02:40:24,959
Speaker 2: all right. The bottom line is the NBA is told

2931
02:40:25,000 --> 02:40:28,000
Speaker 2: on itself. They're changing their format because they see declining

2932
02:40:28,080 --> 02:40:31,880
Speaker 2: interest and not only television audiences but even the players themselves.

2933
02:40:32,520 --> 02:40:34,119
Speaker 2: I don't know how that can be a good thing.

2934
02:40:34,600 --> 02:40:37,960
Speaker 2: Steph Curry's not playing, by the way, Giannis isn't playing,

2935
02:40:38,040 --> 02:40:42,680
Speaker 2: neither is Shay gilgis all right, so have fun. Lebron

2936
02:40:42,800 --> 02:40:44,959
Speaker 2: James is going to be in his twenty first All

2937
02:40:45,000 --> 02:40:47,520
Speaker 2: Star Game after being selected for the twenty second time.

2938
02:40:48,000 --> 02:40:50,320
Speaker 2: We'll see if that sparks excitement. It's good for the

2939
02:40:50,360 --> 02:40:52,640
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show. See you next week. Keep it locked

2940
02:40:52,680 --> 02:40:55,199
Speaker 2: up next They're great. Andy Furman, Fox Sports Radio,