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Speaker 1: I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land on

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Speaker 3: your journey, a podcast for those that are curious, creative,

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Speaker 3: This is where we heal, this is where we transcend.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Deeply Well everyone. Of course, as always,

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Debbie Brown. I am all as so

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Speaker 3: beautiful work into your space. On today's episode, we are

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Speaker 4: an interplay with neurotransmitters even like gabba or serotonin. I mean,

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Speaker 4: there's really these profound ways that they're helping our system

442
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Speaker 4: on a phytochemistry level, and so there is science to it.

443
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Speaker 4: It's so I think sometimes people wonder how are they

444
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Speaker 4: working well? They have they all the different plants have constituents.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 4: Constituents sort of like Okay, I think of one that

447
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: a lot of people know so turmeric. Yeah, Tumeric is

448
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 4: this gorgeous orange root really a riz on that's related

449
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 4: to ginger. And so you've probably heard of kirkcumin. Yeah,

450
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Speaker 4: but kircumin is not turmeric. Kircumin is a part of tumeric.

451
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Speaker 4: It's a compound in tumeric. So all of these plants

452
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Speaker 4: have different compounds in them.

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Speaker 5: Does that mean?

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Speaker 4: So, so there's the plant itself, and then there's all

455
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Speaker 4: the pieces of the plant. There's all the parts of

456
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Speaker 4: the plant. It's a little bit analogous to there's broccoli

457
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Speaker 4: and then there's vitamin C actually in broccoli. There's also

458
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Speaker 4: public acid in broccoli. That the herbs are similar, it's

459
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Speaker 4: just some of their constituents like curcumin or something may

460
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Speaker 4: not be as well known, but they have like holy

461
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Speaker 4: basil has or solic acid, ashwaganda has something called wa

462
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Speaker 4: thanolides that a lot of you know, it's kind of.

463
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Speaker 5: Like a marker.

464
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Speaker 4: And so these are different like parts of the plant,

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Speaker 4: and some of the parts, like curcumin and tumeric is

466
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Speaker 4: very widely studied. The wathanolides and are very highly studied,

467
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Speaker 4: and some of them are more study than others.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's in and it's interesting too. Because especially the last.

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Speaker 3: Handful of herbs you named, you know, use you've been

470
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Speaker 3: seeing those names since antiquity, you know, like Holy Basil,

471
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Speaker 3: like Ashwagonda especially, you know in my like that the

472
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Speaker 3: dating back of that as such a useful tool for

473
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Speaker 3: the human you know, the human body. It's been very documented.

474
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Speaker 3: Are we seeing you know what is it that's happening

475
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Speaker 3: right now? Or even in the last maybe forty fifty

476
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Speaker 3: years where it almost felt like there was like a

477
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Speaker 3: pushing away of like no, all of that stuff, no,

478
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Speaker 3: go this way, you know, go into more of it,

479
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Speaker 3: the industrial complex of medicine, and then now we're seeing like,

480
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Speaker 3: oh my god, no, all these things like they've always worked,

481
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Speaker 3: they still work.

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Speaker 1: What are you noticing?

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Speaker 4: So what I'm really noticing is that people want to

484
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Speaker 4: be more connected to there what they're taking in their bodies.

485
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Speaker 4: So if we even just look at the resurgence of farmers' markets.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I was just talking about that. That's so funny,

487
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Speaker 1: you are.

488
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's happening because it's exciting to know these carrots

489
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Speaker 4: were grown at a farm fiften to fifteen miles from here.

490
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Speaker 5: I'm meeting this farmer. These are local to me.

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Speaker 4: People are just I think in this era of technology

492
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: and always being connected, ironically, people are feeling more disconnected

493
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: than ever and also just wanting to just get back

494
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 4: to understanding both where things are coming from and taking

495
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Speaker 4: back power.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

497
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's honestly sort of almost the bigger picture

498
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 4: that even connects with know your farmer or know where

499
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 4: your herbs are coming from. You know, we work with

500
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Speaker 4: these amazing organic farms and wildcrafters that are sustainably harvesting

501
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 4: the plants. Is that that knowledge again, and going back

502
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 4: to that theme of knowledge is power is there's also

503
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: just taking back power for your health, in your well being.

504
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: And so if you know, for example, like the other day,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I ate something that just didn't really

506
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 4: agree with me, and so Gi Tractor was feeling a

507
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: little off, and this is going somewhere. So in addition

508
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 4: to taking probiotics, which I do every day, I reach

509
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: for my digestive Rescue from wish Carden and I know

510
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 4: it has peppermint and ginger, and I even as I

511
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: was taking it, I thought, this is going to help me,

512
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 4: and it did. This will help soothe whatever is going on,

513
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: And so it's part of that taking back that power.

514
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: So if you're in that state of overwhelmed, like I

515
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 4: know a lot of people that carry emotional ally in

516
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 4: their backpack or their their purse or their bag or pocket.

517
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 4: It's that idea of have a resource. Yeah, I can

518
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 4: do lots of different things to whether it's the deep breathing,

519
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 4: taking the tincture, doing the thing like I can take

520
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: back power for my health and well being.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, God gosh, I think it's just

522
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: so important for people to hear that because this is

523
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Speaker 3: a time, this is an era where we have to

524
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: learn how to care for ourselves and we have to

525
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: learn how to take our emotional power back, you know,

526
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: how to be with just whatever is true and real

527
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: about our lives. And this piece of it, really, I

528
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: can't understate how much it excites me. And I feel

529
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: a very emotional connection because a lot of people know

530
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Speaker 3: who listen to this show. I have been on a

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Speaker 3: health journey my whole life, but especially this last couple

532
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: of years, and so I first got connected to your

533
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: products as I was like in Sprouts, like looking trying

534
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Speaker 3: to find things to help me.

535
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Speaker 5: I didn't know that yeah.

536
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Speaker 4: And Spouts and you just saw wish Grinian tinctures.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I was starting my journey with tinctures, and I

538
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 3: was starting. I'm I'm such a nerd. I love to learn.

539
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: I'm a metal learner. And so I was studying a

540
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: few years ago herbs, and I was studying how as

541
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Speaker 3: I was building my garden that I have what kinds

542
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Speaker 3: of things that I could plant that my son and

543
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Speaker 3: I could learn how to use over time.

544
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Speaker 1: And so I.

545
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Speaker 3: Started planting some different herbs for teas and berries and

546
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Speaker 3: things like that, and the garden is expanding. But I

547
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: knew it would be you know, I didn't have to

548
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Speaker 3: figure it all out in one weekend, and I didn't

549
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Speaker 3: have to read one book and know how to do

550
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Speaker 3: all of it.

551
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Speaker 1: But I was like, how can.

552
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Speaker 3: I slowly learn to really give my unique body, my

553
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: son's unique body, our brains what they need. And so

554
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 3: we were out it at a time where I was

555
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: traveling so much for work, which for those that travel

556
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: a lot, whether work or pleasure, you know you have

557
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: to protect your immunity.

558
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: Like you got it, like you gotta fight for it.

559
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: And then having a young elementary school child when I

560
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: kind of started this journey, he had started kindergarten and

561
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Speaker 3: when you put your kid in.

562
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Speaker 1: School, Oh, the whole house is getting sick.

563
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Speaker 5: It's real. It's all the time in everybody.

564
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Speaker 1: I mean it's Oh.

565
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Speaker 3: I was getting knocked down like full blown, like flu

566
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Speaker 3: symptoms once a month.

567
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Speaker 1: You're out for a week.

568
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Speaker 4: And that's hard, travel and all of everything you're doing.

569
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard for anybody.

570
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Speaker 5: But that's so I was fed up.

571
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Speaker 3: I was like, you will learn how to care for yourself, woman,

572
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Speaker 3: But so yes I did, yeah, I and I found

573
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: daily immunity and so using those and I then you know,

574
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: now I know gratefully all how all the products are working,

575
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: and that you have products for kids which have been

576
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: really wonderful for quests too, because Lord knows they're not

577
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 3: going to take what you take. But if he has

578
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: his own kids, one, yes, it's good. So I was

579
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Speaker 3: just sharing with you. Inside my house, we have an apothecary,

580
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: and so he has his little station, he has his

581
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Speaker 3: wish garden products, he has his own magnesium and the

582
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Speaker 3: things that he does, and then I have my little section.

583
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Speaker 3: And part of our ritual every single day in our

584
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Speaker 3: home is we start our morning there and we end

585
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: our day there. And we give ourselves what we need

586
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: and we do a body scan, we check in with our.

587
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Speaker 1: Bodies, like what do I need today?

588
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: You know?

589
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 3: For me, sometimes it's immunity or feeling a little grief,

590
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: you know from my lived experience. Or I know I'm

591
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: about to get on a plane, I'm going to move

592
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: through a couple hundred people, you know in a few hours.

593
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: So let me have a little bliss in my cup.

594
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: And so it just you know, I I know we're

595
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: giving everyone so much information, but no, you don't have

596
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: to figure out all the like perfect ways to care

597
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: for yourself. But by connecting with like true like companions

598
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: for the journey, like true support as you learn yourself

599
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 3: and then notice the nuance, you know, like notice that

600
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: when you did feel at a high and then maybe

601
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: you know you did have a couple pumps of the

602
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: bliss in your water, what did it feel like afterwards?

603
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 3: And how soon did you feel a difference? And then

604
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: at the end of the day did you feel a

605
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: difference And notice for yourself, Okay, that worked, That's going

606
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: in my kit, that's in my arsenal for how I

607
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: care for myself, you know, or hey, maybe I'm going

608
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: to try this one next time, because maybe I was

609
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: actually experiencing this. But one of my teachers said many

610
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: years ago, I say this quite a bit, but be

611
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: a scientist in your life, you know, be a scientist

612
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 3: of yourself. And I think working with products like this,

613
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: it really gives you that opportunity to start learning yourself,

614
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: to start knowing, you know, how how that inner space

615
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: really works, what's going on in there, and then to

616
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Speaker 3: how to develop because I think with anything new that

617
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: we try, and I hope I'm drilling this home in

618
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Speaker 3: the right way for whoever needs to hear it, to

619
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Speaker 3: really hear it, know that it can absolutely be valid

620
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Speaker 3: that it feels overwhelming to learn how to care for

621
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Speaker 3: yourself and care about yourself. That is a big part

622
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Speaker 3: of what the journey is, what the work is. But

623
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Speaker 3: especially when you're noticing pains or discomforts or anxiety in

624
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: your body, that can be really challenging and it can

625
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: bring up a lot of judgments. But I think it's

626
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 3: so important for us to know that when you start

627
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Speaker 3: this journey, you have the rest of your life to

628
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: learn it. You don't have to figure all of this out,

629
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Speaker 3: you don't have to know every name for everything and

630
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: where it goes and what it does. You know, in

631
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Speaker 3: a weekend, in a day like let yourself have some

632
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: creative fun with this process too, and know you know

633
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: it's gonna take a little time, but once you do,

634
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: you actually develop relationship with whatever is in front of

635
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 3: you that is meeting your need, that's your companion for

636
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: your body for the journey. You're developing your own personal

637
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: relationship of knowing when to take it, you know, knowing

638
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: how much you need knowing. Hey like myself personally, I

639
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 3: know I always have immunity and bliss in my bag

640
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: every time I travel for work. It's packed, it's ready

641
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: to go. I would love to bring the whole line.

642
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: I don't always have that much room, but I know

643
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: if I have those two things, that's what I need

644
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: and that allows me to continue to be who I

645
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Speaker 3: really am as I'm moving through the world and just

646
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: navigating the very honest and true natural stressors of my

647
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: life and of being alive on earth in this year.

648
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Speaker 3: So it's going to be like a special process figuring

649
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Speaker 3: out what helps me be my most ideal, authentic self,

650
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Speaker 3: and it's going to be unique for each of us.

651
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Speaker 3: So I wanted to make sure that I shared that,

652
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Speaker 3: because that is also part of the joy of the

653
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Speaker 3: process when you gather this info and then how many

654
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Speaker 3: of us learn these things and then we teach them

655
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Speaker 3: and we share them and we give that kind of

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Speaker 3: inner freedom to another person.

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Speaker 4: I think you touched on something so important of just

658
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Speaker 4: it can be really overwhelming, and it's this also this

659
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Speaker 4: great opportunity.

660
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Speaker 5: So I think if.

661
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Speaker 4: It's like we're sort of just like hopefully opening the

662
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 4: door and to kind of find some joy and have

663
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 4: some fun with it. Yeah, of just finding what works

664
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 4: for you, Like you were saying you always travel with

665
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 4: kick ass immune in liquid bliss, and for me, like

666
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 4: I will not walk out the door for a trip

667
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: without sleepy nights, which we haven't talked about yet, but

668
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 4: for me, sleep is so important and sleeping when I'm

669
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: traveling is not always the greatest, but with sleepy nights,

670
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: it's just an ally for me, again going back to

671
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: just knowing that I have it, it just provides a

672
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 4: sense of ease of Okay, I've got this blend I

673
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 4: can take right before bed, and even if you wake

674
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 4: up in the middle of the night, you can take it.

675
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: What's happening into your body when you take it.

676
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: So it's a really gentle formula, gentle and effective formula

677
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: of three herbs, skull cap, passion, flower and hops. And

678
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: you may know like hops is isn't that like sleep

679
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: and it's a beer?

680
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's all I remember hearing it.

681
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, And those herbs just kind of help you. Catherine,

682
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: who is our founder and master formulator, talks about just

683
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 4: sort of go over almost like the bridge from like

684
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 4: wakefulness to sleep, just kind of like walking over to

685
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 4: just a calm. It sort of helps your nervous system

686
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 4: calm those three herbs in particular, and so it's soothing

687
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 4: without sedating.

688
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 5: And so that doesn't have any.

689
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: Melatonin in it, which I knows some people like to use,

690
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 4: but that's just a totally different thing. It doesn't have

691
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: any Valerian, which is sort of a heavier plant with

692
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 4: like sort of a stronger energy that may and not

693
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: just energy, but can constituents. Again that may make someone

694
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 4: even feel a little grogging the next morning. So it's

695
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: just this elegant blend of just three herbs. And I

696
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 4: mean I have it right now for you know, being here,

697
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: And so it is just that idea that we're all

698
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: individuals and we'll each find our own path and find

699
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 4: some joy and really realizing of what you need. I

700
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 4: know other people that will not leave without digestive rescue.

701
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 4: For me, I'm okay. I mean, but I have it

702
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 4: at home in my medicine cabinet. So we all are

703
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 4: so unique, and there's such opportunity with plants in plant

704
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: medicine to sort of find your path, whether you know

705
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: your stress however manifests, like for example, in the muscular

706
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 4: skeletal realm, we have a blend called serious relax, so

707
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 4: it's more about the physical realm. So we just really

708
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 4: find our way, and I just invite people it's it's

709
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 4: to enjoy the journey and recognize that there are their

710
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 4: teachers on the path and to find resources and hopefully

711
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 4: you know, one of the things I try to do

712
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 4: is not make it it's too overwhelming, because you really

713
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: want it to be accessible for.

714
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: It, yeah yeah, and feel fun and feel creative.

715
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 4: And be like wow, that helped me, that really you

716
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 4: That's that's one of my favorite parts of what I

717
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 4: do is when someone goes, wow, that really made a difference,

718
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 4: or I have a friend it's like the editor lives

719
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 4: in the South, and I sent him sleeping nights and

720
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 4: he texted me and he said, gosh, you know, that's

721
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 4: like the most rest And he didn't say thatt even best.

722
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 4: He said, the most RESTful sort of calming nights sleep I've.

723
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Speaker 5: Had a long time.

724
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: Wow.

725
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 4: And it was I think it was just because it

726
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 4: actually just helped him just calm a little bit.

727
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, so he could so he could get the rest

728
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 5: that you need it.

729
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and we deserve it, and we deserve it.

730
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: We just deserve the sleep well, to eat well, ye,

731
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 4: do all the things, you know.

732
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: The feeling good in our bodies.

733
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 4: Sit in the sun like it's it's all good medicine.

734
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, truly, listen to good music, put on a good playlist.

735
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: Everyone knows that is my cham Go out ground your feet,

736
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: feel the sun on your face, feel the freedom in

737
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: your body. That's right, deeply well, I am so very

738
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: very very very like like very pristine and strict. I

739
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 3: feel like about like what I put in my body,

740
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: like where you know, what I choose to kind of

741
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: even physically like be around in the world. You know,

742
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: Like I think we have to really think in those terms.

743
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: And I think one of the things I was so

744
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: excited when I first discovered your company, and then when

745
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 3: we were starting to begin our relationship together, was this

746
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: is a fully like woman owned business. It is you

747
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 3: all are based out of Colorado, it's woman owned, it's

748
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: family run, and it's about what is real, which is

749
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: that level of this authenticity is extremely important to me

750
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: because now wellness is this massive, multi trillion dollar industry

751
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: complex in its own and we have to be connected,

752
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: I think, to the best ingredients, especially in the space

753
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: of homeopathic, of organic, the best ingredient and a high

754
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 3: level of integrity of product and mission and intention.

755
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: So I was like thrilled.

756
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 3: I was like, woman owned, family run in Colorado. So

757
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: I was just imagining you all. I'm like, they're probably

758
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: sitting outside listening to the trees, developing formulas. What first

759
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: connected you with wish Garden and if you could please

760
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 3: share with us just a little more background about the company,

761
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 3: how it came to be and what is the mission?

762
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 4: Absolutely so really, I think the mission is around empowering

763
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 4: people with verbal remedies. And Catherine is our founder. I

764
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 4: met over twenty years ago and she's a really special

765
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 4: person and Wishgarden Nerves is forty six years old. So

766
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 4: I gives of the history and tradition. And I met

767
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: Catherine and she was talking with me about her formulas,

768
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 4: me being a natur traffic doctor in Boulder, Colorado, and

769
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 4: I knew right away what a special person she was

770
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 4: and is. And she's really started as an activist. She's

771
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: deep in the midwif free tradition and all about empowering

772
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: people and especially women because we have a long history

773
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: of tinctures both for pregnancy, postpartum, different hormonal phases and stages,

774
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: and that's really a passion of hers.

775
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 5: And who she is.

776
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 4: She also is a master formulator.

777
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 5: I mean when I every time.

778
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 4: I look at these blends, I just think how elegantly

779
00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 4: and honestly smartly designed they are. And so it's really

780
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 4: a privilege to be a part. When you said real

781
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 4: the words that we're coming to mind is like wish Gardens,

782
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 4: the real deal.

783
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 5: You know.

784
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: I'm fortunate to get to work with them.

785
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 5: It is Colorado.

786
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 4: Born, woman owned, family run and I get to work

787
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 4: with Catherine's son and daughter on a regular basis, and

788
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 4: so I just feel I feel blessed, honestly to be

789
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 4: a part of it. And I think it's part of

790
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 4: a bigger movement to bring you know, these these rbal

791
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 4: remedies in these fast acting liquid orbal tinctures. And that's

792
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 4: the great thing about them is that I'm just gonna

793
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 4: bring one up here. This daily immune is the one

794
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 4: I happen to have in my hand. But we have

795
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 4: this pump top is you know well, Debbie, because you

796
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: take these but you can just take.

797
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 5: It right in a little bit.

798
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: Of water and you just put it directly. You know,

799
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 4: the directions are right on the label, in a little

800
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 4: bit of water and you take It's easy, you know,

801
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 4: and easy is important so important our health and wellness.

802
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 4: It can't be too complicated now or too hard to

803
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 4: do because then people aren't going.

804
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 5: To stop tunity idea.

805
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 4: And so these fast acting liquid or wiltinctures, these plants

806
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: that are grown with the highest integrity, and you know

807
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 4: it's about the best ingredients. But you were also recently

808
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: decorp certified, which is honestly just really bringing into sort

809
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 4: of making it official of what Wish Garden has been

810
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 4: doing all along of working with our people, like the

811
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: farmers that grow the plants, the wildcrafters that they're aren't

812
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: earning a fair and living wage. I mean, it really

813
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 4: goes out into the whole world that they're being grown

814
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: and harvested sustainably in a way the honors the earth.

815
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 4: And so it's really from the very beginning to what

816
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: is actually in the bottle. And I can just say

817
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 4: that Catherine and the whole family like they they have

818
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 4: the highest standards. And I feel really lucky because living

819
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 4: in Colorado, I get to work hybrid model, which I

820
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 4: really like. So I'm I'm home working a few days

821
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 4: a week, and I'm in the office two days every week,

822
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 4: and the tinctures are.

823
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 5: Being made in the same building.

824
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 4: We're all in the same building together, so the plants

825
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 4: are all coming in and the tinctures are being made,

826
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 4: and the people are.

827
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 5: In the you know, like me, are doing work on

828
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Speaker 5: the computer.

829
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Speaker 3: Andcle I can't wait to take a tour. I'm like,

830
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: I need to see all of this magic, Fay for

831
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 3: you to.

832
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 5: Come and take a tour.

833
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: And we all actually meet like daily in the kitchen,

834
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 4: you know, and see each other in walk and so

835
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 4: it's it's it's the real deal, and it's a it's

836
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 4: a special place to be a part of. And I

837
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 4: think that the collection of tinctures that we have to

838
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 4: meet real life moments make it special.

839
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

840
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wow, Well, I am just I'm so honored and

841
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 3: I'm so thrilled to be in partnership with you all.

842
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: I believe in this so deeply, so much, And you know,

843
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 3: I really know and understand my life's work to be

844
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: about helping people alleviate internal suffering and find the tools

845
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: that work best for their unique bodies, brains and hearts

846
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: and lived experience.

847
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: So I'm just really honored to be with you all.

848
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 4: We're really honored to work with you, Deb And I

849
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 4: think it's just such a powerful partnership because the practices

850
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 4: that you are bringing into the world through your voice,

851
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: through your book, through your work. I feel like it's

852
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: just a it's a great collaboration. I mean, they come,

853
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 4: they come together, Yeah, and I think you and I

854
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 4: are both living that. And all we would like to

855
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 4: do is invite more.

856
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 5: People people, yeah, to do that. Yeah, just to share it,

857
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 5: to share.

858
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, to heal to share, and to feel like truly

859
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 3: you know, and not in the kind of cheesy New

860
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 3: Year way, but to feel like our best selves whatever

861
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: that best can be for each moment. Can we rise

862
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: to the heights of whatever each unique moment can bring

863
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 3: us inwardly and outwardly.

864
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I think I hear you because sometimes you

865
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: feel like you don't want me to say best self

866
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 4: or authentic self. You know, you want that to have

867
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 4: integrity and to feel real. But the thing is is

868
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 4: that it's humans. We have this incredible capacity to grow

869
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 4: and change.

870
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 5: It is in so true every.

871
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: Single person on this planet. And I am fortunate to

872
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 4: see it all the time, and so I really do

873
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 4: believe in you know, these for example, that every day

874
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 4: is you start, every moment is honestly, and you start,

875
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: you wake up in the morning, it's a fresh day.

876
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 4: Like we we can do that, and it often happens

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Speaker 4: not in some kind of overnight change, but in these

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Speaker 4: these steps that we can take, these moments where we

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Speaker 4: maybe start to actually meditate and we only start for

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Speaker 4: like ten minutes a day in the morning, but we

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Speaker 4: do it, and we show up and we meditate, or

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Speaker 4: then we maybe integrate an urbal tincture into our lives

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Speaker 4: that makes us feel better or even like one of

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Speaker 4: the things I love about liquid bliss, I think is

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Speaker 4: this it sort of invites a little more joy more joyful,

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Speaker 4: and then that's good. And then maybe we just we

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Speaker 4: eat a healthy breakfast, or maybe we don't eat breakfast

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Speaker 4: because life is crazy, but we eat a healthy once

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Speaker 4: you know, it's like, yeah, we just try to like these,

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Speaker 4: like these micro moments, and then we will find ourselves, yes,

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Speaker 4: actually truly changing. And it.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter where anyone is in their life.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how young old they can do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes we can. Doctor Aaron.

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Speaker 3: I love how your work reminds people that healing is

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Speaker 3: not about fixing.

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Speaker 1: It is about.

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Speaker 3: Remembering what's already inside of us, and then finding the

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Speaker 3: support and the companion in all of our allies and

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Speaker 3: the earth and in nature that bring everything else to

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Speaker 3: bloom inside of us. Before we wrap up this beautiful episode,

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Speaker 3: what is one practice or plant ally that you think

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Speaker 3: that everyone could begin incorporating today to help them feel

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Speaker 3: more grounded, authentic and deeply.

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Speaker 4: Well, wow, that is an excellent question. I don't so

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Speaker 4: it's interesting for me because the nature of the work

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Speaker 4: that I do is not really one size fits all,

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Speaker 4: and so it's hard for me to say one thing,

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Speaker 4: but I do will say I'll say, first like a practice,

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Speaker 4: and then I'm going to say a plant to answer question.

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Speaker 1: Perfect, yes, give us the soul work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So for practice, I was tempted to same meditation,

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Speaker 4: but I'm going to say something different. For practice, I

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Speaker 4: would say to really make your sleep a priority now,

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Speaker 4: which means making some kind of shift, like just some

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Speaker 4: shift like going to bed earlier, or maybe taking back

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Speaker 4: before bed, just doing something to honor and sort of

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Speaker 4: what you say, create like a soft space. Is that

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Speaker 4: the right learn, Yeah, the right phrase a soft space

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Speaker 4: around sleep. So something softening around sleep. It could even

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Speaker 4: be like buying new sheets or something something like it

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Speaker 4: really makes you feel.

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Speaker 5: Good about sleep.

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Speaker 4: And then for the plants, is that I do believe

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Speaker 4: that part of changing our relationship with plants, and honestly

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Speaker 4: just strengthening our relationship with plants is finding a plant

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Speaker 4: ally like this idea a lot and so to explore

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Speaker 4: the idea. And I mean wishguard Nerves is a good

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Speaker 4: resource wish gardennerves dot com. Of like finding a plant

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Speaker 4: like holy basil. But I can't say one size fits

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Speaker 4: all or motherwort. These are the two that are coming

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Speaker 4: to mind. Motherwort, is this really beautiful herb, especially for women.

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Speaker 4: It is a classic nerving that helps really calm and

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Speaker 4: ground the nervous system. It's really good during times of transition,

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Speaker 4: like for example, perimenoplause menopause.

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Speaker 5: But it doesn't even have to be that.

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Speaker 4: It could be like a transition to a new home

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Speaker 4: or a new job, or so motherwort, Leonora's cardiaca lion

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Speaker 4: hearted herb. It is literally like the lion hearted plant.

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Speaker 4: So that's one that could be a single ally. Another

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Speaker 4: could be Holy basil. Holy basil is a little more

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Speaker 4: of just for the uplifting. It's an adaptagen that helps

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Speaker 4: the body adapt to stress. But I see this unlock

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Speaker 4: happen around plants. We've talked a lot about combination formulas,

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Speaker 4: which are amazing, but when somebody finds a plant, skull

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Speaker 4: cup could be another frazzled nerves, kind of wired caffeinated energy,

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Speaker 4: even if you haven't had caffeine. But the plants. The

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Speaker 4: really unique is you can hear me saying it as

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Speaker 4: a naturalropic doctor, I will actually pair people with a plant.

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Speaker 4: And then when someone starts taking a single plant like that,

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Speaker 4: it sort of opens up the whole world more to

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Speaker 4: even more of like some of these other blends that

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Speaker 4: I love so and we have those singles you can

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Speaker 4: you can check them out and find the right one

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Speaker 4: for you and if a blend is calling you instead,

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Speaker 4: go for that.

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Speaker 5: But finding a way to connect.

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Speaker 1: To the plants amazing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you for that soul work.

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Speaker 3: And doctor Aaron Stokes, thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 3: us again. Doctor Aaron Stokes is the medical director at

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Speaker 3: Wish Garden Herbs. So excited for everyone to be on

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Speaker 3: this journey with me, with us, and thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for coming to the show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me, Debby.

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Speaker 4: It was great to sit with you and I hope

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Speaker 4: we'll be able to do it again sometime.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, thank you everyone.

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