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Speaker 2: Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 1: Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast one eleven
Speaker 1: productions iHeartRadio Media and iHeart Podcast. I am joined by
Speaker 1: my intrepid crew Daniel Romo, Susanne French, Tarra suit Amy Sugarman,
Speaker 1: bon Voyage. The final episode, Season seven, Episode twenty two
Speaker 1: Bank Dave Dos, Wow, Wow Wow.
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Speaker 1: We're all wearing our sweatshirts. Check us out.
Speaker 2: How many times.
Speaker 4: Did you cry?
Speaker 5: Who me?
Speaker 1: Personally? I listen, I held up a bunch of times.
Speaker 4: You know, it's wearing his Luke sweatshirt.
Speaker 2: We love it.
Speaker 1: Look at that. Hang on, let me let me check
Speaker 1: this out. This is a nice sweatshirt. It's ninety seven
Speaker 1: degrees out where I am. I'm wearing a sweatshirt. So
Speaker 1: I got the air conditioning cranked up, and my wife
Speaker 1: is like, I got igh schools dripping down her nose.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like to Scott my fans, I mean,
Speaker 2: you're right down the road from me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, what the hell, what about a T shirt?
Speaker 1: How about a T shirt?
Speaker 4: You're wearing my Gilmore Girl's T shirt. Can you see it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're nice and cool. You're nice and cool at Walmart.
Speaker 1: I think sweating it out degrees.
Speaker 2: Team jest.
Speaker 1: Look at that? Look at that represent the dragon flying.
Speaker 5: On And I have my Laurel Life and I have.
Speaker 4: My I have my Gilmore Girls slipping from the Warner
Speaker 4: Brothers store. No, I wish that would be cool.
Speaker 1: I have my I Am All in Rock?
Speaker 4: Where'd you get that? What's an I Am All in Rock?
Speaker 1: It was a fan senate. They threw it through the window.
Speaker 1: It hit me on it.
Speaker 3: What this is?
Speaker 4: But it's like a little Luke smug and there's a button.
Speaker 4: I think it's supposed to do something.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean you guys want to want some memorabilia?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'll go, but I'll go into the vault.
Speaker 4: Oh guys, I'd never seen this.
Speaker 2: I was shocked when you texted that.
Speaker 7: I didn't realize sent it before on the podcast.
Speaker 5: You watched it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you, like you never watched it
Speaker 2: when it was live either.
Speaker 4: Oh, and I know why I didn't because I'm sad,
Speaker 4: Like in my mind, I think by not watching it,
Speaker 4: I sort of was like, oh, but now that I've
Speaker 4: watched it, it's like it's over.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: I've got to say for my own self that David
Speaker 1: Rosenthal hit a massive home run with this episode. This
Speaker 1: episode could not have ended the series with a better tone.
Speaker 1: It was a miracle of an episode. It was wow.
Speaker 4: I mean I cried.
Speaker 1: It was a very very smart, emotional appropriate ending to it.
Speaker 1: I think maybe David had an inkling that we'd better
Speaker 1: write something that's going to tie it all up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he must have, because it does.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Because there's maybe at that
Speaker 1: point there was a very slim chance that it was
Speaker 1: coming back. But I knew, you know, we were all negotiating, right,
Speaker 1: We had all you know, even started negotiating negotiations for then,
Speaker 1: and there were rumors going around as I recall, that
Speaker 1: some negotiats were going very well and others were not
Speaker 1: going very well. Because our contracts were up, so they
Speaker 1: had to bring us back for a season eight, so
Speaker 1: that required a negotiation, and you know, we were all
Speaker 1: in kind of a friends type position where we could
Speaker 1: pretty much I mean, it's a CW and it's a
Speaker 1: lower you know, it's a lower rated show, comparatively to NBC,
Speaker 1: A Friends, something like that. It wasn't this monster show,
Speaker 1: but it was. It had a big fan base and
Speaker 1: the CW really wanted to come and make it, have
Speaker 1: it come back in the advertisement.
Speaker 4: Seen DVD money at that point too.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, absolutely, And I can tell you I won't
Speaker 1: say it, but I know what that number is and
Speaker 1: what it meant to the studio, and it was significant.
Speaker 1: And so we were all in a position, you know,
Speaker 1: to say, not necessarily name our price, but to get significant.
Speaker 7: I was going to ask you, like, when you've filmed this,
Speaker 7: you didn't necessarily know it was the series finale because
Speaker 7: you're still in negotiations right, so correct after filming it,
Speaker 7: where did you maybe process? Because for me, this is
Speaker 7: a series finale and it is so through and through
Speaker 7: a series finale. When you shot it, did you maybe think, oh,
Speaker 7: they're tying it up this.
Speaker 1: Well, I knew from my attorney and my reps that,
Speaker 1: you know, the advertisers that support this show and buy
Speaker 1: ad space on this show, we're putting a great deal
Speaker 1: of pressure on the network to bring this show back
Speaker 1: for multiple seasons. Yeah, And that's information that attorneys get,
Speaker 1: so they have better leverage in the negotiation. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: we we know that this is going on, so Scott
Speaker 1: needs this number, and you know, Lawrence and Lexiss and
Speaker 1: everybody's rep said the same thing, you know. So that's
Speaker 1: just how goes unique position to be and took us
Speaker 1: seven years to get their actors. You rarely have that
Speaker 1: kind of power where it's like, hey, you know, you
Speaker 1: either give me the number or else I'm not coming back.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not doing this, And especially for Lauren
Speaker 1: and Alexis, I mean, they really had power because it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's their show girls.
Speaker 3: Without the Gilmore.
Speaker 1: Girls there certainly is not right.
Speaker 4: So when did you find out you weren't coming back?
Speaker 1: I was in Toronto on the set of a film
Speaker 1: and my manager called and said, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm just sitting around with the cast
Speaker 1: and chopping it up and waiting for the next setup
Speaker 1: to be ready. She says, well, I've got bad news.
Speaker 1: They canceled the show.
Speaker 4: How you feel, like, how did that hit you?
Speaker 1: Well, honestly, I wasn't that surprised. Yeah, I wasn't that surprised.
Speaker 1: You know, I just thought I was in it. Every
Speaker 1: time in my life I get in a situation where
Speaker 1: it's too good to be true, it usually isn't. It's like,
Speaker 1: damn almost, It's like you know, the there goes the
Speaker 1: vacation home. You know, we it's but I listen, and
Speaker 1: it was such. I knew at the time what a
Speaker 1: special job it was. I lived five miles away from
Speaker 1: the studio. I had my own parking space with a
Speaker 1: name my name on it. We were all working in
Speaker 1: town so that we could have real lives and real families. Right,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how many hours you're putting in at
Speaker 1: the studio. You get to go home. It's a ten
Speaker 1: minute drive.
Speaker 4: Right, you're home.
Speaker 1: And you know, most jobs are not in La anymore.
Speaker 1: They're way you're traveling. I'm traveling thirty six hundred miles
Speaker 1: tomorrow to go to my job, and it's gut wrenching
Speaker 1: to leave my family. I mean, my attorney at the
Speaker 1: time was so upset that the way that he had
Speaker 1: heard the negotiations going that he actually begged me to
Speaker 1: get certain people into his conference room so that he
Speaker 1: could convince them that lightning does not strike twice and
Speaker 1: that make a deal. Keep it going, ride this wave,
Speaker 1: because it ain't gonna happen again. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: too rare a gem to toss back into the ocean.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, I do know the
Speaker 1: details somewhat, but I'm not going to reveal them on
Speaker 1: the podcast, you know, just to preserve people's privacy. But
Speaker 1: you know, things being what they are in Hollywood, and
Speaker 1: people just chose to, you know, move on and listen.
Speaker 1: It's I think it was a perfect time in retrospect,
Speaker 1: now that I've seen all the episodes, I think it
Speaker 1: was a perfect time to move on. I really do.
Speaker 1: And as much as that disappointed the fans and at
Speaker 1: the time, and it's still I understand that. You know,
Speaker 1: if you want to have something that special, a show
Speaker 1: this special, then I think one hundred and fifty three
Speaker 1: episodes is enough. Not that there isn't more life in it, right.
Speaker 1: I think if there was some really unique way to
Speaker 1: bring everybody back and do another round of Netflix episodes,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think it could be.
Speaker 1: It would be incredible. Yeah, but boy, what a what
Speaker 1: a nice ending that was, and what a nice end.
Speaker 4: Now I can't wait to talk about the whole episode,
Speaker 4: because it really was weird watching an episode for the
Speaker 4: first time, Like I know now, Danielle, what it's been
Speaker 4: like you because it was so awesome.
Speaker 7: This finale hits though because I've seen it. I saw
Speaker 7: it three times. I saw it again right before this,
Speaker 7: and I'm just like, oh my god, that.
Speaker 4: Was so good.
Speaker 3: It was so good good.
Speaker 1: It hits deep, it really, it really goes deep.
Speaker 7: I think my favorite part is especially in the last
Speaker 7: like or in the party scene where everyone's under the tent.
Speaker 7: You see the everyone that made the show.
Speaker 4: You know who was you, but you're missing Paris. I
Speaker 4: definitely I didn't see Michelle Kim. I never saw there
Speaker 4: was no missus Kim because we knew she was finished
Speaker 4: and it was a bummer to not figure out how
Speaker 4: to have Paris in there in the finale, but she could.
Speaker 1: I didn't even notice that. I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think it affected the scene at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't make sense because she's not from Star's.
Speaker 1: Hollows Hollow and she's not you know, she's not that
Speaker 1: person that cheers on. That's that kind of generous part,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, maybe she is deep down, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think of Paris there is there. It's more of
Speaker 1: a distraction because then you expect something kind of intense
Speaker 1: to happen during the celebration.
Speaker 2: So no Logan.
Speaker 4: So he really like finished with just.
Speaker 1: What would you have done if Logan had popped up
Speaker 1: again looking Forlorn with a limousine and say, Rory, it's time,
Speaker 1: I'd like to check your.
Speaker 4: It's it's just so like, oh, I just beautiful.
Speaker 7: The town was doing what they do, and that's as
Speaker 7: part of.
Speaker 1: Full on stars Hollow. That's when you realize what a
Speaker 1: what a great character Stars Hollow is. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's full force stars Hollow.
Speaker 2: And there were so many notes to like the first season,
Speaker 2: and like little things that I noticed throughout, like like
Speaker 2: the shot, the very last shot of it zoomed, yeah,
Speaker 2: and like all those things. It was like it felt
Speaker 2: very nostalgic to watch it because you're like, oh, I've
Speaker 2: been through seven years with these people.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The very the very last shot pulling out is the
Speaker 1: same almost the same shot as the pilot episode's final Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: pulling out like that, except I.
Speaker 2: Wasn't you know.
Speaker 4: I had a weird thing where Alexis looked younger in
Speaker 4: this episode than she had the weeks before. I was like,
Speaker 4: what's happening that kind of was. I don't know why.
Speaker 4: It just was like, Oh, she looks so young again
Speaker 4: and she's going off to work, which I love that.
Speaker 4: It's how much it holds up about Barack Obama. It's
Speaker 4: like literally at the convention and everyone's peaking out. It
Speaker 4: was a you know, pretty like, uh, aged good call
Speaker 4: to give her that job.
Speaker 1: So it's funny because I was flipping around my Netflix
Speaker 1: and I couldn't find the show because I finished the
Speaker 1: series right the two nights ago, and then I wanted
Speaker 1: to watch it again before we came on, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't there. So I started watching, uh the episodes by accident,
Speaker 1: and I just turned it off immediately. I didn't see anything.
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything. I didn't say anything. I saw them.
Speaker 4: Go back to the first season.
Speaker 2: No, he's talking about the movies you into the episodes.
Speaker 2: The same thing happened to me because I was like,
Speaker 2: what is this because it starts with I'm not going
Speaker 2: to ruin it, but it starts with something where you're like,
Speaker 2: what am I watching?
Speaker 7: And the episode season one, episode one, oh no, straight
Speaker 7: back to episode mine went straight to winter, and I
Speaker 7: was like, what are these voices?
Speaker 2: Happening.
Speaker 5: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: But anyway, but I finally got back to it because
Speaker 1: I had to go through that, you know, I had
Speaker 1: to search for it again and then you know, go
Speaker 1: all the scroll down to episode season seven and scroll
Speaker 1: down to episode twenty two and turned it on. But
Speaker 1: I didn't end up watching, and I hit the thing
Speaker 1: by mistake, and I watched the episode one, season one,
Speaker 1: so I saw the first part of the pilot. I
Speaker 1: watched that first scene.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're are you right?
Speaker 1: Rory didn't aige really because in that scene when that
Speaker 1: guy's hitting on Laurel, I like, oh no, that's my daughter,
Speaker 1: So really you know this kind of thing. But that's
Speaker 1: one point. Another point is what a brilliant beginning of
Speaker 1: a series with that great song and Laurela I walking
Speaker 1: down the street, coming in and Luke giving her the
Speaker 1: coffee and you're a junkie, and then the guy hits
Speaker 1: on him, and you see how close to mother and
Speaker 1: daughter are. You see what great wit you're in store for.
Speaker 1: She's a little snarky with him, and when he says,
Speaker 1: well I should get going, she goes so soon you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like yeah, yeah, Okay, here's something snappy, here's
Speaker 1: something smart, and this is going to be a nice ride, right.
Speaker 2: Doesn't make you want to watch all over again?
Speaker 6: I kind of do.
Speaker 4: It really does make you want to start it just all.
Speaker 2: Over, especially with like all the like pumpkin spice latte
Speaker 2: things coming back.
Speaker 5: I'm like that time.
Speaker 2: It's like that all the memes where it's like Gilmore
Speaker 2: Girls is defrosting again, right, exactly.
Speaker 4: You want to start it again?
Speaker 5: Gott you did exactly what the rest of the fandom does.
Speaker 5: You finish season seven, episode twenty two, and then you
Speaker 5: turn right back around and stuff episode one all over.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm hooked. I'm fascinated. I am fascinated to
Speaker 1: watch it again because now I have new eyes, I'm
Speaker 1: a little better educated about it. Yeah, gosh, wouldn't it
Speaker 1: be something if we just did this again. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's crazyness. That's craziness. Craziness, right, Amy, isn't that craziness?
Speaker 1: That's crazy?
Speaker 4: Be a wild idea, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, what a wild idea that might be.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even bring it up, you know, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: even bring it up. Anyway. Let's send op size. What
Speaker 1: do you think huh.
Speaker 4: We gotta go through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta go through it. Man. We're twenty minutes
Speaker 1: of Tangent City, which I think some people enjoy. These
Speaker 1: are good, by the way, that's the new podcasts. It's
Speaker 1: Tangent City, Gott Patterson. We're just going to talk about stuff.
Speaker 4: I am all tangent.
Speaker 8: I'm all right, guys.
Speaker 7: This is season seven, episode twenty two, bon Voyage Air
Speaker 7: date May fifteenth, two thousand and seven. Rory summer plans
Speaker 7: are thrown into disarray when she has offered her dream job,
Speaker 7: leaving Loreli to contemplate life after she moves out. Luke
Speaker 7: steps up in a big way with the stars Hollow
Speaker 7: graduation party, and finally we get our answer to if
Speaker 7: Luke and Lorli will finally be together?
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, can we talk about this opening?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: To go through it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, finally after seven years of talking about.
Speaker 2: Her, it was a nice touch.
Speaker 1: It was she did a good acting job. I thought
Speaker 1: she did very very well. That's hard to do if
Speaker 1: you're not an actor. But she's I guess she's used
Speaker 1: to be in front of the camera and.
Speaker 4: That she's still going strong too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Yeah, she's got a great great presence.
Speaker 2: Great presence that y'all got her.
Speaker 4: Super cool. I love the whole I'm in my pajamas
Speaker 4: because she didn't believe her mom like it was all
Speaker 4: a good bit.
Speaker 1: Well, they called me to call her because they knew
Speaker 1: she was a big fan of Luke, and I pulled
Speaker 1: a Frank Underwood on her. You know, I said, listen,
Speaker 1: you don't show up. No, I didn't do that.
Speaker 6: I didn't do that too.
Speaker 4: I still think it was like, I get why she
Speaker 4: would do it. It's cool for her to be on
Speaker 4: Gilmore Girls, that's what.
Speaker 2: And she was mentioned. She was mentioned so many times.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have to Yeah, you really good. It was great.
Speaker 5: And then she gave Rory her business card, which I
Speaker 5: like to r.
Speaker 3: I p business cards.
Speaker 4: Well that's my cab, gotta go.
Speaker 2: I feel like only people still have more like doctor's
Speaker 2: offices and stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah I have business cards.
Speaker 1: Do you.
Speaker 5: I have a box of like five hundred that I
Speaker 5: think I've given out one.
Speaker 2: I heard the people, now.
Speaker 1: Some did you get some coffee business cards?
Speaker 4: No? Your card should say coffee, coffee, coffee. I am
Speaker 4: all in, Yeah, you should have the pod on the card.
Speaker 7: Oh saw some presidency. Oh language on there.
Speaker 1: I have to cover up my cell phone number.
Speaker 4: We won't show it. Don't worry, no one would call you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Nancy.
Speaker 6: I like it.
Speaker 1: I like the green.
Speaker 5: That's a good.
Speaker 1: And then there's like on the back.
Speaker 5: Nazzy.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I only have about a thousand of them.
Speaker 4: Okay, So after the credit, it's just for old time sake.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always skip.
Speaker 2: You're like, I've seen this.
Speaker 1: I like to get right into the action. I like
Speaker 1: to get in the action.
Speaker 5: So Lorelin and Rory are planning their making their summer
Speaker 5: plans for this. This is awesome fun. It really did.
Speaker 4: It really really did.
Speaker 5: And then the rocket makes an appearance and didn't need
Speaker 5: the rocket.
Speaker 4: I was fine with that. It was a nod to
Speaker 4: logan we needed that, and she kind of acknowledges how
Speaker 4: she It's like she's not just over it right. She says,
Speaker 4: it comes in waves close, you know, rough waves close together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not unexpected. And then so the the big thing
Speaker 5: for me in this scene was when Laurel I says
Speaker 5: that she thinks that she and Luke are done because
Speaker 5: she tries to be vulnerable and he doesn't respond. I
Speaker 5: don't know, what did you guys think about it.
Speaker 1: She said it in a very casual, a matter of
Speaker 1: fact way. It wasn't you know, this deeply emotional scene.
Speaker 1: It was just like, you know, I didn't.
Speaker 4: It's like she's done because she thinks she's done, right,
Speaker 4: It's like she was really done.
Speaker 5: I just felt like maybe I was reading too much
Speaker 5: into it. I felt like she was trying to make
Speaker 5: herself be okay with it even though she was.
Speaker 1: I think I think you're right. That's a good reading
Speaker 1: of it. I think very accurate.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So then we go to the diner and Luke's.
Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, tread so hard to mute, thank you.
Speaker 5: Luke's ordering all the food for the party, and the
Speaker 5: guy keeps trying to pawn off brought worst.
Speaker 4: At a party. I have the call back later where
Speaker 4: the person's like, you don't have any brought works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually really funny.
Speaker 5: That was good. And then we see Liz with Doulah,
Speaker 5: and Luke was cute, like he's all uncle Lee and
Speaker 5: he was excited to see me.
Speaker 4: He so casually says like hi Doulah, which it is
Speaker 4: the second or third time it's happened, and every time
Speaker 4: it cracks me up because it's just like that's her name,
Speaker 4: that is her name.
Speaker 5: They talk about the necklace, so we know that's kind
Speaker 5: of on his mind too. That was cute.
Speaker 1: And it was funny because she tried to sneak out,
Speaker 1: like he's like, do not sneak out the front door.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's good, good, really good scene and great to have
Speaker 4: is in the finale.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then we have our final Friday night dinner, which.
Speaker 4: Was so sweet. Definitely after drinks, you know, after dinner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was when my first tear shed. That was
Speaker 2: I feel like I cried every other scene.
Speaker 3: Richard got, oh, yeah, we'll talk.
Speaker 2: About that well.
Speaker 4: And then she gets me with the your father and
Speaker 4: I you know in the in the in the in
Speaker 4: the in she's trying to we'll get there. She's trying
Speaker 4: to hoodlin for the dinners, not realizing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because the at the dinner, Emily was kind of
Speaker 5: snotty because she's like, I don't understand why Rory is
Speaker 5: taking time for this cop whatever, just like chill out.
Speaker 5: And then that's where they first suggest adding the spa
Speaker 5: and all that. But then Rory comes in. So more
Speaker 5: cute blue dresses in this episode, like the dresses the
Speaker 5: last episode, cute blue dresses in this episode, and then
Speaker 5: we find out Rory got a job with Hugo Gray, So.
Speaker 4: She did set out all those envelopes, which I did
Speaker 4: see the people commenting because I didn't know she did
Speaker 4: that because I'd never seen this episode.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's a good call.
Speaker 4: On the pavement there.
Speaker 5: In the where they're talking about the roller coaster, she's
Speaker 5: like stamping her envelope after envelope, which was the last
Speaker 5: time anybody did that. But okay, so okay, Friday night
Speaker 5: dinner and then back to the diner. This was a
Speaker 5: cute town diner scene. Everybody's upset that they there's not
Speaker 5: going to be it was there. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: You kind of it that you're like, oh, the diner's
Speaker 4: packed with towns people that we know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was a great scene, I thought,
Speaker 5: And they're all very upset because they were promised to
Speaker 5: reenact it.
Speaker 2: I like the little like fakery enactment.
Speaker 5: Super cool, Luke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was actually super funny. It was quick and
Speaker 4: it was like everyone was on their toes and it
Speaker 4: was That was really great.
Speaker 2: But then when they panned back over to like be
Speaker 2: beet and stuff and they're just like not impressed two
Speaker 2: background actors.
Speaker 4: That was kind of interesting too. They made sure the
Speaker 4: background actors were looking fake eating, they were up and
Speaker 4: looking and they.
Speaker 5: Were in the town too, so yeah, right, Yeah, it
Speaker 5: was just a good scene. And then the very end
Speaker 5: when they after they leave, then Luke kind of gets
Speaker 5: a look on his face and you can see his
Speaker 5: wheels are turning, and then he shows up at the
Speaker 5: Dragonfly and we find out he's been he's decided to
Speaker 5: throw the party. Anyways, I loved that Suky saw right
Speaker 5: through him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that she like called it out. She wasn't
Speaker 2: even like trying to fake it.
Speaker 1: He kind of admitted to it too, because he yeah,
Speaker 1: he just didn't want to go there.
Speaker 4: He's not super close with her though, as we've known
Speaker 4: over the seven years. It's not it's casual with a
Speaker 4: hint of formal, like they aren't just buddy buddies, but
Speaker 4: they're friendly without being like bestie friends.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's been some conflict between them before,
Speaker 5: so it was it was it was nice to see
Speaker 5: them I kind of come together.
Speaker 4: They have a scene just the two of them, which
Speaker 4: we don't get that much.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the chemistry is really great. I love working
Speaker 1: with her.
Speaker 5: Yeah we uh okay. So then Rory and Lrlai are
Speaker 5: walking around town with Rory's packing list of random things
Speaker 5: that she's gonna need, and then I had the book light.
Speaker 5: The book light.
Speaker 4: Mike was at the Lost and Found at the end. Yes, like,
Speaker 4: what is the proper amount of time before You're like,
Speaker 4: just take it.
Speaker 5: That's a good question, like a couple of months. I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think so. And then they go to the I
Speaker 5: started to say the diner, Miss Patties. That was great
Speaker 5: with everybody likely so they can't she can't see them
Speaker 5: and they're standing there in the dark.
Speaker 6: That was.
Speaker 4: Ye, yeah, totally.
Speaker 5: And then then it goes to the inside of Miss
Speaker 5: Patti's and they turn the lights on and they have
Speaker 5: their little unofficial town meeting. And Taylor was typical Tailor.
Speaker 5: It was. It was perfectly in character for him. You know,
Speaker 5: he's all concerned about permits and all like everybody's starting
Speaker 5: to plan a fun party and like steamrolled Taylor.
Speaker 2: They were like, yeah, but that said something like if
Speaker 2: this is an unofficial meaning, then everything is unfit like
Speaker 2: something like that. You're saying everything you're saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Luke tells him to go comb his beard, stay
Speaker 5: home and beard. Okay, So everybody kind of gets their
Speaker 5: their assignments, and then then it cuts to later that
Speaker 5: evening where there by the Laurel and then that whole
Speaker 5: group of people like sneaks up behind them and then
Speaker 5: realize who it is and then the whole group.
Speaker 7: Sneaks Almost good if I had to have one flag,
Speaker 7: it was like, you guys would have seen them a
Speaker 7: lot sooner.
Speaker 5: I loved thats Lorelai kind of looks like she.
Speaker 1: Looked at the end.
Speaker 2: How many times did you guys have to do that?
Speaker 1: Oh? I don't remember very all those. I think we
Speaker 1: probably had to do it two or three times.
Speaker 3: I was impressed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like choreographed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was perfect.
Speaker 6: It was perfect.
Speaker 5: It was thought.
Speaker 1: It was hilarious and yeah, you wonder if those two
Speaker 1: have peripheral vision issues. But still as a gag. As
Speaker 1: a gag, it really because if they cheated too much,
Speaker 1: the camera wouldn't have looked realistic. So as a gag
Speaker 1: it worked beautifully because because because the audience is like,
Speaker 1: they've they've got to see them. Oh when are they gonna?
Speaker 1: You know? So the tension was sick, so it was
Speaker 1: really great. It worked up. Yeah, very fun.
Speaker 5: They didn't do a ton of visual gags like that
Speaker 5: in the in the series, so it was unexpected. Which
Speaker 5: man funnier?
Speaker 1: Oh man?
Speaker 5: Okay. Then we go to Lane's porch. Okay, who else
Speaker 5: was surprised to find out that Dave was not Lane's
Speaker 5: first kiss.
Speaker 1: It?
Speaker 2: Well, no, wasn't it the I who she randomly just kissed?
Speaker 4: And remember she felt his hair? Remember that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't it that guy?
Speaker 5: No, there wasn't the same name.
Speaker 2: Oh, she had.
Speaker 4: That boyfriend too. Remember she had the boyfriend.
Speaker 3: That forget his name?
Speaker 4: Well, she had Dave Ragalski and then she had that
Speaker 4: other one.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, they.
Speaker 5: Never went out because they never could plan. There was
Speaker 5: all the logistics in trying to get together, that's true.
Speaker 2: I did like the mention of.
Speaker 4: Yeah we got ah.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I liked this scene because Rory finally showed a
Speaker 5: little humility. She had been into this. She was so
Speaker 5: cocky in season seven about you know, she's going to
Speaker 5: get the fellowship and all that, and it was kind
Speaker 5: of nice to see her be like, well what if
Speaker 5: I fail? What if I'm a really bad reporter? I
Speaker 5: kind of like to see that from her.
Speaker 4: Finally, yeah, I agree that it was, and she's nervous
Speaker 4: and like the whole thing. I was happy about that, right.
Speaker 5: And Zach tried to get them to wrap it up
Speaker 5: because they need to set up in the square. And
Speaker 5: then Zach's like, okay, I get it. I'll tell them
Speaker 5: you're done.
Speaker 4: When you're done the old like cordless phone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, those were the days.
Speaker 4: Every single scene is great, like it is not like
Speaker 4: there's not a lot for us to argue about talk about,
Speaker 4: because it's just like yep, great, yep, great, yep great.
Speaker 5: Exactly like it was also how we like feel.
Speaker 4: About it ending. But we'll get to that. And then
Speaker 4: I do have one little note that I want to ask,
Speaker 4: but I it will probably have to wait till after
Speaker 4: the movies.
Speaker 5: But no, ill, I did like the next scene so
Speaker 5: as the mother of a twenty one year old, and
Speaker 5: when Rory was like asking, like, why why are you
Speaker 5: so okay and Laurel I was saying, well, it's too soon,
Speaker 5: Like if I think about it too soon, I'll fall apart.
Speaker 5: Like I could totally relate to that when your kid
Speaker 5: like goes off to college totally. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was so many people are going through that right
Speaker 4: now or their kids. It's like they got the job.
Speaker 1: We dropped off Nick this morning for his first day
Speaker 1: back at school, and it was emotional then. I mean,
Speaker 1: the parents were most of the parents were inside the
Speaker 1: classroom taking video and the teacher said, he's not.
Speaker 4: Even like he's not kindergarten.
Speaker 1: I got a video of a blue whale going here,
Speaker 1: get all the way.
Speaker 2: What grade is he in?
Speaker 1: Four? For it?
Speaker 5: Wow? You know, yeah, it's but I yeah, it's It
Speaker 5: was a good scene. Like it just hits home because
Speaker 5: there's always like you spend your your parenting time preparing
Speaker 5: your kid to leave you, and then they leave you.
Speaker 1: And you're like, yet you're the one that's not prepared
Speaker 1: right exact.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of good about to cry moments, you
Speaker 4: know how, like when you're welling up with tears. There's
Speaker 4: a lot of that in this episode and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: pretty good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 4: Lot of that.
Speaker 2: I made the mistake of starting this on my flight
Speaker 2: home this morning because I flew back from a work
Speaker 2: trip and I started tearing up, and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: going to be crying on this forty five minute flight.
Speaker 2: So I finished it when I got.
Speaker 5: You don't want to cause a big scene on the airplane.
Speaker 3: Seven I am airport.
Speaker 5: They have the Marshalls waiting for you, and you get there.
Speaker 1: We've got a crier. We've got a crier. He's out
Speaker 1: of control.
Speaker 5: So then it's goes to the time where they're setting
Speaker 5: up for the party. Luca's in charge of everything, He's
Speaker 5: directing everybody. I thought that was great, Like he had
Speaker 5: this vision in his head of you know, what was
Speaker 5: going to look like, and it was giving everybody instructions.
Speaker 5: And they woke up eastside Tilly to get the table cloths.
Speaker 5: And then Sally Struthers, she.
Speaker 2: Goes the way she runs like runs to Luke.
Speaker 4: She say, like, my hair sometimes gets it right of
Speaker 4: my ankle.
Speaker 3: Girls of her? Is anybody?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the best comedic actress of maybe one of the
Speaker 1: best comedic actresses of all time. Do you know what
Speaker 1: it's like to stand there with a legend like that
Speaker 1: and go back and hit the ball over the net
Speaker 1: with somebody like that? I mean, it's thrilling, It's oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean, just think of how great my
Speaker 1: job was. I got to hit the ball back and
Speaker 1: forth with Lauren, with Sally Struthers, with Melissa McCarthy. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're talking about three of the greats, you know, and
Speaker 1: that that's what I got to go to work and do.
Speaker 1: And as I was watching this episode, especially when He's
Speaker 1: tethering together Luke's tethering together the targets, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I had this moment where I was like, man, did
Speaker 1: you ever get lucky? Because you can only hope that
Speaker 1: writers put you in these kinds of situations where you
Speaker 1: can just shine. But it's the circumstances. It's the situation.
Speaker 1: It's not you know, yeah, you're adding a little bit
Speaker 1: to it, but man, they're set in the stage for you,
Speaker 1: and it's just it doesn't happen a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: people are always in these sort of typical situations, but
Speaker 1: in this show, you are in some unique situations, and
Speaker 1: they really set up their character beautifully. I thought, really,
Speaker 1: really a privilege to play that role, just got luckier
Speaker 1: and heck, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: He gave all the sort of regulars and not like
Speaker 4: more of the miss Patty's and the babettes some good
Speaker 4: things to do in this episode, ker Lane. Everybody had
Speaker 4: I could have used a little more gypsy, but she
Speaker 4: got a little in there, Taylor, everybody got something pretty
Speaker 4: cool to do.
Speaker 1: But Sally Strauler's with her. You know, yeah, I watch
Speaker 1: that Harry Walker. You're a fan of Harry Walker's looking
Speaker 1: so it's just you know, Rosenthal finds some really funny
Speaker 1: moments between characters and allowing allowing Sally to do her
Speaker 1: comedy bit. I mean her bouncing around and running so funny.
Speaker 5: It's really good.
Speaker 1: It's so great, it's gold Man.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Using the set, we really got to see a lot
Speaker 4: of stars hollow. We had that open where you really
Speaker 4: see the Gilmore as if I remember you see Rory
Speaker 4: and Lorelei's house really clearly.
Speaker 1: Right, But have you ever seen a better use? They've
Speaker 1: used that gazebo and that area and really effective way.
Speaker 1: So whenever there's the gazebo involved and the town center,
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's something great, it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: But I've never seen a better use. I mean, stop
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, and if you have another another show,
Speaker 1: no but that, but but that scene, that celebration scene
Speaker 1: that prepared you know that dance, all the dancing and
Speaker 1: the music and all the great stuff and all those
Speaker 1: great weather.
Speaker 4: Will say is I guess they wanted it to rain
Speaker 4: because then you have to figure out how to make
Speaker 4: the tent. But it wasn't raining, and that was it
Speaker 4: was very clear that it wasn't actually raining.
Speaker 3: It was super sunny too.
Speaker 5: Sonny in the background was.
Speaker 1: Dumping another torrential downpour in Bourbon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when Rory gets out of the car, the door
Speaker 4: doesn't close.
Speaker 2: But I read, Yeah, that is so drop on them.
Speaker 1: When they walked over, they were dry, but they had umbrellas.
Speaker 4: Just leave the jeep there like kind of in the
Speaker 4: middle of the road.
Speaker 1: They had umbrella escorts. Like they pulled up to the
Speaker 1: Four Seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like in that kind of rain you
Speaker 2: usually get wet.
Speaker 1: No, they're not gonna then they're not going to put
Speaker 1: wardrobe and hair and makeup through anything wetness in that situation.
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 5: Did you notice that it was there both of their
Speaker 5: best friend's husbands with the umbrellas, So to get them.
Speaker 7: From the car, that was that's like a very interesting
Speaker 7: choice for Zach and Jackson.
Speaker 3: But then who else would it be? You know?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was cute. It was good. Yeah, and we
Speaker 5: missed the one before before we get to the raining part,
Speaker 5: there were the two scenes that had no dialogue. The
Speaker 5: one was where Lorlei goes to Rory's room while she's sleeping,
Speaker 5: and it.
Speaker 4: Was really amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was really good. And then immediately after that
Speaker 5: it cuts to Luke's diner where he's sewing together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those were brilliant scenes.
Speaker 5: Those those were both. I love how they paired those
Speaker 5: two scenes together. I thought that was good.
Speaker 1: That's that's great, that's that's film. That's yeah, that's moving pictures,
Speaker 1: telling the story with pictures.
Speaker 7: I will say, is I feel like like, at this moment,
Speaker 7: Luke has his summer canceled because April can't come right,
Speaker 7: She's going to her science fair. Lorlai is letting her
Speaker 7: daughter fly, you know, fly the nest, so to speak,
Speaker 7: and it's like now that they finally have room for
Speaker 7: the two of them, you know, like they finally can
Speaker 7: focus on the two of them, which I don't know,
Speaker 7: seeing all these scenes and stuff, it's like Luke is like,
Speaker 7: I need to put effort into this, you know, and
Speaker 7: he wants to, and he cares about her and he
Speaker 7: loves her and and we'll.
Speaker 3: Get to it later, but he's like, I just want.
Speaker 7: To see you happy, you know, And it's just you
Speaker 7: realize that they had all these obstacles, but they are
Speaker 7: truly meant for each other.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Luke has always expressed his affection in actions
Speaker 5: more than in words. So the whole you know, putting
Speaker 5: together this giant tent overnight is that was such a
Speaker 5: look thing to do.
Speaker 7: And even during the party, he's like going to the
Speaker 7: store the diner to get the coal and like bringing
Speaker 7: the coal out and you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's actions speak louder then, right, I mean
Speaker 1: there it is writ large.
Speaker 5: Okay. Then the sash made from Kirk's mother Nike. Again,
Speaker 5: that was so perfect, like a subtle.
Speaker 1: Kind of yeah right right, and then he tells her
Speaker 1: to Neil Neil before me, Like, I.
Speaker 5: Mean you said that it amy that. Like everything in
Speaker 5: this episode was just perfect, Like I have.
Speaker 4: Nothing to talk about, like it's kind of like a
Speaker 4: boring podcast episode because we're just like loved it, loved it,
Speaker 4: loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, getting any controversy on this.
Speaker 5: One one one nitpicky thing that I didn't like, although
Speaker 5: it was completely in character when Richard was exactly well,
Speaker 5: when Richard was trying to pay Lorelei a compliment and
Speaker 5: Emily was having none of it. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's
Speaker 5: typical Emily, Like, that's why I don't really like her,
Speaker 5: But seriously, just shut up for a minute and let
Speaker 5: your daughter get some praise, like it kills her to
Speaker 5: let him say something nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I did like that he kind of was like, no,
Speaker 2: let me say this, and he finally just I think it's.
Speaker 5: A little bit of me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it met more.
Speaker 4: I think also, if I will say, we're meant to
Speaker 4: be irritated by her. Yeah, so that the payoff of
Speaker 4: when we realize what she's doing is that she wants
Speaker 4: to keep Lorelei coming to Friday night dinner and she
Speaker 4: was just being all sugar and sweet. We wouldn't We
Speaker 4: wouldn't enjoy that payoff as much. That's my take on.
Speaker 1: She has to be the character that's has to do right.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Character To your point, it was good to see
Speaker 5: Richard finally take Laureli's side over Emily's because that has
Speaker 5: not happened in the past seven years.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also think watching this part back, just knowing that
Speaker 2: he has passed away and like what the movies come.
Speaker 2: I think it was like harder to watch. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's how you think. You're the only person
Speaker 2: who's seen it before, but like it was I think
Speaker 2: like it was really hard for me to see that part,
Speaker 2: just knowing like what comes in the movies.
Speaker 3: And yeah, but at the.
Speaker 5: Same time, like you're so glad that he got that in.
Speaker 1: Yes, but but but the amazing thing about that scene
Speaker 1: and Richard's speech was that it proved that Laurel I
Speaker 1: was right all along to leave, and it proved to
Speaker 1: Richard and Emily that they were wrong, that they acted
Speaker 1: in a less than supportive parental way when she was sixteen,
Speaker 1: because look what you guys have in your life, and
Speaker 1: now look what I have created on my own, well
Speaker 1: with your help. Okay, granted you paid for the chiltern
Speaker 1: and and not Yale that was fixed to her, but
Speaker 1: that they that that Laurel I is vindicated here in
Speaker 1: the end, and it's like she's not hitting them over
Speaker 1: the head with it, right, She's the message is so
Speaker 1: positive for community and family, such a powerful moment. Yes,
Speaker 1: because now they are continuing for the right reasons. The
Speaker 1: Friday night dinner because Laura I wants to right, because
Speaker 1: she wants to spend time with them now because now
Speaker 1: she's respected. Finally took all this, It took all of this.
Speaker 5: Look at the.
Speaker 1: Warmth of these people. They love Rory, they love you,
Speaker 1: and by extension, hopefully they love us. And maybe we
Speaker 1: were wrong with all of our money and our power
Speaker 1: and our influence and our educations. You know, there's there's
Speaker 1: a better way to live life, or an equally as
Speaker 1: powerful way to live live a life, you know, and
Speaker 1: just beautiful message in that.
Speaker 7: And Richard don't have this, you know, they're like it's
Speaker 7: very not that it's bought, but it's very.
Speaker 1: Like status conscious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't actually care about each other.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't in a competitive way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all very superficial exactly.
Speaker 7: And I feel like Rory and Lorela have the community
Speaker 7: as their family, you know, yeah, right, yeah, because they
Speaker 7: have like this huge social circle.
Speaker 5: But not anybody that would, you know, drop what they're
Speaker 5: doing and come help you fix your flat tire or.
Speaker 4: Something right right, right right, or sell turs together.
Speaker 1: Very poignant moments, Very poignant moment, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Very good. Did you notice that alexis had a huge
Speaker 5: band aid band aid.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what injury she had, but I did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she had it in one of the in the
Speaker 5: diner scene earlier too, So I don't know some sort of.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's an old saying from Auto Premager,
Speaker 1: the film producer director Guy. You know, you know if
Speaker 1: when in out write a scene with somebody walks in
Speaker 1: the room with a gun or has a bandage.
Speaker 5: Okayce.
Speaker 1: It begs questions.
Speaker 5: Okay, so Freddy and my dinners are going to continue.
Speaker 5: Emily does have the nice line about it's an honor
Speaker 5: to be your grandmother. Yes, that was good speech. Taylor's
Speaker 5: speech with the birth and elm.
Speaker 3: Hilarious.
Speaker 7: I was like, thank god, I needed that humor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was Emily and Richard who are like
Speaker 2: this is really weird, Like I'm so creepy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And it's all the more it's all the
Speaker 1: more hysterical because you don't expect that from right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's always so prim and proper and appropriate. Right, but
Speaker 1: you know maybe the original Ken versus the Karen, right,
Speaker 1: but that was that was so vile, that was so gross,
Speaker 1: That was really weird. But about somebody doubling down on
Speaker 1: an analogy, I'll tell you, yeah, he saw it through.
Speaker 1: Oh God, just great writing. You get to sit through
Speaker 1: that and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.
Speaker 6: Yeah, beautiful stuff.
Speaker 5: And then so we at the end of the scene,
Speaker 5: well towards the end of the scene is where we
Speaker 5: find out from Suki tells Laurel I, Laurela I thought
Speaker 5: Suki had planned the party.
Speaker 2: Ya.
Speaker 5: Sukie's like, no, it wasn't me, It was all Luke.
Speaker 5: And then Laurel I was like yeah.
Speaker 4: And then we have that kind of her walking and
Speaker 4: seeing townspeople, but like with her on what she knew
Speaker 4: what was happening.
Speaker 3: She was ready, Yeah, she was.
Speaker 1: She was ready.
Speaker 3: She was ready to land a smooch like she was.
Speaker 4: I'd seen I'd seen that before. I think I'd seen
Speaker 4: that scene on YouTube. That was the only scene I'd
Speaker 4: actually seen before.
Speaker 1: Boy, that was like movie magic stuff. Man, that was
Speaker 1: heavy stuff.
Speaker 5: That was such a good scene.
Speaker 7: That was honestly maybe one of my favorite scenes in
Speaker 7: this whole whole series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just not look on her face when
Speaker 1: she was walking up.
Speaker 2: The payoff of that felt the same way that I
Speaker 2: felt with their first kiss. Yeah, yeah, maybe, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think the first kiss is a little more special, but
Speaker 2: this is like right up there.
Speaker 1: Would you call this the last kiss? Maybe in the series, yeah,
Speaker 1: in the series, yeah, wow.
Speaker 4: The last first kiss, the last first chi.
Speaker 1: And that song that came up my heart's doing flip
Speaker 1: flomps or And that's another aspect of the show that's
Speaker 1: so brilliant, the marriage of picture, an emotion and a song,
Speaker 1: because really, the Carol King theme song is so powerful.
Speaker 1: Children get triggered when they hear that, you know, babies
Speaker 1: like oh mama, you know you know that song is
Speaker 1: very powerful. But the use of music in this is
Speaker 1: just brilliant, just especially in.
Speaker 7: This I had that moment too, when Lorli and Rory
Speaker 7: were walking into the party and there was that the song.
Speaker 1: That's right. They know when to use an old, you know,
Speaker 1: punk rock song, they know you. They know when to
Speaker 1: use a cheesy seventies dance tune, they know when to
Speaker 1: use atmospheric song and all that great Sam Phillips stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, her songs. They just they just know when
Speaker 1: to drop them in. It's magical.
Speaker 6: It's just magic.
Speaker 4: You sort of have the moment after the kiss you're like,
Speaker 4: is it over? But you knew, like it can't end
Speaker 4: on that because yeah, yes, but you kind of realize
Speaker 4: that the show is about two things, ultimately her relationship
Speaker 4: with you, but even more so her relationship with Rory
Speaker 4: and then the three of you. So we can keep talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll try telling that to the PR department back then,
Speaker 1: that's not how it.
Speaker 5: So I have a little easter egg in the kiss scene,
Speaker 5: so I don't think I don't think it was an
Speaker 5: intentional easter egg because you kind of have to use
Speaker 5: your imagination and a little bit of wishful thinking. But Jackie,
Speaker 5: do you have the screenshots or.
Speaker 3: Should I just take off my headphones?
Speaker 5: No? Keep them on? Okay, so this is this is
Speaker 5: the scene I'm talking about. Look at the lights.
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 5: It's an L and a heart and an L. Do
Speaker 5: you see where Jackie's like Luke and Laura? It's like
Speaker 5: L heart L.
Speaker 4: Can you say that's a bit of a stretch.
Speaker 1: That's a real stretch, right.
Speaker 4: I don't take any credit for this.
Speaker 5: I saw it on social media like five years ago,
Speaker 5: but now I cannot unsee it every time.
Speaker 2: Well, heart L, but it also could look like a butterfly.
Speaker 5: On the camera starts moving. Then you lose it.
Speaker 1: But I was saying, I don't think the production would
Speaker 1: do anything intentional to distract anybody from this kiss.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think it was intentional at all,
Speaker 5: because you can see when the camera starts moving, you
Speaker 5: can see it in three tom and it doesn't look
Speaker 5: anything like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I could see that, But.
Speaker 5: Somebody pointed that out. I think it was on Twitter,
Speaker 5: like I don't know, five or six years ago.
Speaker 1: And now it looked like he was looking her that
Speaker 1: he was taking They were falling down to the street.
Speaker 4: Looks like he's really holding her neck a lot.
Speaker 1: But it's like, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: Okay with it? He's like, don't you move on?
Speaker 1: Cue there, Let's just go down to Chinatown right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, what's going on? You? I know that the
Speaker 1: camp operator the boom is rising up, but it looked
Speaker 1: like we were actually sinking down. That was kind of cool.
Speaker 5: But how cool would it have been if the like
Speaker 5: the townspeople right there all turned around and saw them kissing. No,
Speaker 5: I know, I thought that would have been great.
Speaker 4: The walk up is just.
Speaker 1: So good, it's so it's so it was so right
Speaker 1: to just keep the camera on her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah right right, look at that delivering so cool and it.
Speaker 4: Looks like guys, it makes me so sad. I can't
Speaker 4: talk about this.
Speaker 1: Look at us, we're both like breathless.
Speaker 2: And you know what. I love this show. This episode
Speaker 2: was just as much about Rory and Lorelei as it
Speaker 2: was about Luke. Like, I feel like it was perfect,
Speaker 2: like equal, and I like I had literally no notes
Speaker 2: when it ended. I was like, it was perfect. It
Speaker 2: was a perfect way to wrap it all together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't stop my heart from turning. Wow, just perfect.
Speaker 4: I was a bit happier of a person before I
Speaker 4: watched this because now it's over, I was happy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just gonna say I was happy after
Speaker 5: that scene because we have been waiting all of season
Speaker 5: seven for Luke and Lorelei to get there, you know
Speaker 5: what together, And I was glad that they didn't like
Speaker 5: leave it hanging, like did they get back together or
Speaker 5: didn't they Like I'm glad that we got to see
Speaker 5: that and have that reality, because yeah, there was so
Speaker 5: much in this show that it it does kind of
Speaker 5: sometimes you wanted to see something you didn't get to
Speaker 5: see it. So I was glad that they likely gave
Speaker 5: us that.
Speaker 1: There was like a four season weight to the first kiss,
Speaker 1: and then there was like maybe a two season weight
Speaker 1: through two seasons or a three season this one right.
Speaker 5: And then mostly because earlier in the episode, laurelized like, Eh,
Speaker 5: I'm over him, he's over me, Like we're just going
Speaker 5: to move on, and so then you know, until this
Speaker 5: point in the episode, you're thinking, Okay, they're just going
Speaker 5: to leave it there. So I was glad that we
Speaker 5: had that that little closure on that. And then then
Speaker 5: it goes to Laurelized house and they're getting ol of
Speaker 5: Rory's stuff ready, Like I'm this whole time, Like I
Speaker 5: start getting choked up at the kiss, and then I'm
Speaker 5: getting more choked up as I'm watching them packing her
Speaker 5: stuff and then everything I need.
Speaker 7: I feel like I remember my mom doing that. I mean,
Speaker 7: not the same thing, but when I was leaving for college,
Speaker 7: she was like.
Speaker 3: Did you pack this? Did you pack that? Are you
Speaker 3: sure you have this? Are you sure you have that?
Speaker 3: And it's just lore life stalling.
Speaker 7: She doesn't want her, you know, want to leave yet.
Speaker 2: Because even when when she went to Yale and she
Speaker 2: was chill, like she was an hour away, she'd still
Speaker 2: see her all the time.
Speaker 4: She's never gone that far away.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was great. I remember when I
Speaker 5: went to college, only I only went forty miles away,
Speaker 5: but I remember my mom driving me up there and
Speaker 5: she had me read I can't even remember now which
Speaker 5: play it was, but it was Shakespeare and it was
Speaker 5: Polonius's advice to layer tees when you said to thine
Speaker 5: own self be true. Like she had me read that
Speaker 5: whole section from I forget which.
Speaker 1: Place that's Hamlet is a Hamlet?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so I just will always That was, you know,
Speaker 5: almost thirty five years ago, I guess, yeah, thirty five
Speaker 5: years ago, and I still I still remember that pretty cool,
Speaker 5: So that's cool. It was. It was cool. So that's
Speaker 5: why I liked that. That scene in the show where
Speaker 5: Laurela is like giving her the advice and you know,
Speaker 5: don't wear shorts because your seats you're right.
Speaker 2: Right, which was which was a callbacks this episode one
Speaker 2: in the shorts, right, the Jeane shorts. Oh that's yeah,
Speaker 2: I forgot, that's how That's what I took from it.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, the Jeene shorts on the
Speaker 2: first day of school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well let's give it. Uh, I think we.
Speaker 2: All we still have the last scene.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, sorry, all right.
Speaker 5: Such a good scene, just like the very first scene
Speaker 5: in episode one. Now we're going to finish up at
Speaker 5: the dints.
Speaker 4: The men us, and it'd be better with pictures on it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you have to acknowledge that Laurelas wearing the necklace.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and Lucas I take all the time you need.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, just pounds while I look at it.
Speaker 4: She's likes and bacon.
Speaker 2: We don't want to let go.
Speaker 4: I think we have to give this the episode a
Speaker 4: rating and the series a rating that we'll do.
Speaker 1: We'll do both, but let's do this last scene. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: It's a big build up to the last scene.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Luke says, take all the time you need,
Speaker 5: the little smiling moment, and then it's just it just
Speaker 5: kind of ends with the little like mother daughter banter
Speaker 5: about you know.
Speaker 7: The pancakes and the eggs in the house, right right,
Speaker 7: right right.
Speaker 5: It was it was just it was just the perfect
Speaker 5: ending scene.
Speaker 1: I thought, the way you could have ended it right,
Speaker 1: there's no clever button on it, there's no cheesy kind
Speaker 1: of smiles going back and forth acknowledging that this is
Speaker 1: the end. It just it's just like, yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: everyday little pitter pattern between and.
Speaker 7: After seeing the scene, I was like, all as well.
Speaker 1: All yeah, right, all as well, Like a.
Speaker 5: Lot of that anxiety of season seven was just gone
Speaker 5: because I know that it like kind of okay, everyone's
Speaker 5: in a good place right now. So I think it
Speaker 5: was to your earlier point, Scott, it was a great
Speaker 5: way to end it because it does look and feel
Speaker 5: like a series finale, but it didn't have to be
Speaker 5: like you could also picture it going on from there
Speaker 5: into a season eight. So I thought it was really well.
Speaker 1: Done, right, And you know, given all of the trauma
Speaker 1: from the master storytelling for seven seasons of character trauma
Speaker 1: and trials and tribulations and failures and getting back up
Speaker 1: and succeeding, and the tension created and the family dynamics
Speaker 1: and the falling out and the screaming matches, all of
Speaker 1: that stuff, in that very last scene, I thought, Wow,
Speaker 1: we got through it. We all got through it and
Speaker 1: were better for it, and everybody's happy and it all
Speaker 1: came together and you can't but in such a subtle way,
Speaker 1: in such a such a great like they didn't shove
Speaker 1: it in your face with it just brilliant, absolutely brilliant,
Speaker 1: absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 2: And I can't state it.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. Yes, that's exactly, thank you, Amy.
Speaker 1: It was understated, classy, classy, classy. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: start watching it again. I don't, you know, can't. I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see about that.
Speaker 7: We'll see what I get into the movies, guys.
Speaker 3: I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Don't. No one agrees with me, but I like the movies.
Speaker 5: I like the movies.
Speaker 1: Did well, we're gonna result see.
Speaker 4: I've only watched the movies once, so this will it'll.
Speaker 2: Be interesting, how I feel.
Speaker 1: I've only seen Winter because I was forced to watch
Speaker 1: it at the premiere.
Speaker 2: I was at that premiere.
Speaker 1: Were you really?
Speaker 2: I was, And I'll send you guys pictures, but I was. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was crazy how many fans showed up. And then
Speaker 2: the next day was they they transformed an area of U. C.
Speaker 8: L A.
Speaker 2: Into Stars Hollow and I got to get no way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll send you his pictures because they Yeah, it was yeah,
Speaker 2: because it was in It was at the Westwood theater.
Speaker 2: So then like part of the premiere again, I think
Speaker 2: the after party was there, right, Scott, And then the.
Speaker 4: Next theater just went out, like there's theater's gone now
Speaker 4: just like very recently.
Speaker 1: What a shame?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that was like an iconic movie theater.
Speaker 1: Is that the Bruin Theater.
Speaker 5: Street?
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, there both are still there.
Speaker 1: Thousands of fans were there. I mean when I you know,
Speaker 1: they send nice suv to get you in, to take
Speaker 1: you in, and when when we got out of the car,
Speaker 1: I was shocked. I mean we saw all the fans,
Speaker 1: but when they but when when each actor got out
Speaker 1: of their cars.
Speaker 6: The fans erupted.
Speaker 1: I mean it was just it was really like I thought,
Speaker 1: what did we just walk into a Tom Cruise movie?
Speaker 1: Did we make a wrong term somewhere? I mean it
Speaker 1: was something. All right, So let's uh, let's rate the
Speaker 1: We're going to do two ratings. We'll go through the
Speaker 1: show and then then we'll come back and we'll do
Speaker 1: this series rating. All right, So who wants to start
Speaker 1: us off? Say any want to start us off with
Speaker 1: the show, this particular show rating and your measuring stick please,
Speaker 1: So for.
Speaker 5: This particular episode. I have to give it a ten
Speaker 5: really large tents.
Speaker 1: Ten really large tents, Tara.
Speaker 2: I will give it ten. Of course, necklaces that Luke
Speaker 2: gave Laura Lai.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Uh, Danielle, I think you're muted, Danielle.
Speaker 1: Daniel was sorry, but you created some real tension were
Speaker 1: Oh god, she really did.
Speaker 7: I would give it ten out of ten. Nightgown sashes nice.
Speaker 2: Amy out of ten, Christian alm on force good one.
Speaker 1: Uh, I am gonna give it uh ten Babbetts swollen ankles.
Speaker 4: All right, So now we're doing the whole series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Suzanne, if you please?
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, all seven seasons?
Speaker 1: Now what was so? Wait a minute, So we're measuring Gilmore.
Speaker 4: Girls as a series.
Speaker 1: As an entire series versus your experience growing up watching
Speaker 1: every TV series that you're aware of.
Speaker 4: Correct in your life that you know of so far.
Speaker 1: So Time magazine named Gilmore Girls from the top one
Speaker 1: hundred series of all time. What is Suzanne, French magazine?
Speaker 4: Yes, that is exactly right, Scott Well said.
Speaker 5: Okay, So am I giving it the number of out
Speaker 5: of like? Is it ten out of ten? Or am
Speaker 5: I saying it's number X out of the hundred series.
Speaker 4: Let's go ten out of ten, because that's what we've
Speaker 4: been doing the whole time.
Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, no, no, I think that's interesting though.
Speaker 1: I think that's interesting because.
Speaker 4: I means so much work. If I'm like, where does
Speaker 4: this compared to Walking Dead and The West Wing?
Speaker 1: And no, I think try put it maybe in your
Speaker 1: top fifty. What do you think let's do.
Speaker 4: Let's do a top fifty, all right, throwing me a curbo,
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 5: Really, I'm gonna have to put this as number two
Speaker 5: in my.
Speaker 4: Top Well, now I have to number one.
Speaker 5: Number one? Is I Love Lucy?
Speaker 1: That's a classic. Okay, all right, Tara.
Speaker 2: I'm not just saying this because it's a show, but
Speaker 2: it's probably my number one because I think it's the
Speaker 2: only series that I will go back to in any time,
Speaker 2: like anytime of the year. If it's on, I always
Speaker 2: stop to watch it. So yeah, I think it's my
Speaker 2: number one.
Speaker 3: Danielle, I'll say top five.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, but you have to be specific, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: in order to qualify number five, number five, So who's
Speaker 1: one through four?
Speaker 7: And I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think, you're
Speaker 7: really throwing us an assignment here that I'm doing on
Speaker 7: the fly.
Speaker 1: This is so like was one of mine.
Speaker 7: Okay, I can watch Loss like it's nobody's business.
Speaker 2: Give us one more.
Speaker 1: What's Laguna Beach?
Speaker 3: Lagoda Beach might be like three?
Speaker 1: Is that a reality show?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Really good that.
Speaker 1: Paned thighs and ripped abs and Laguna Beach b Yes, Amy, Amy,
Speaker 1: I mean, oh.
Speaker 4: It's definitely top ten, definitely top ten. It's bordering on
Speaker 4: top five. I'm kind of like, I think West Wing
Speaker 4: Walking Dead. I think those are like brilliant unique. I
Speaker 4: have to give the Brady bunch in there just because
Speaker 4: of like nostalgia for me that I just watched every
Speaker 4: episode growing up. Like you know, I might say Friends
Speaker 4: is in there somewhere.
Speaker 3: In the city. I'm surprised you even said so.
Speaker 4: Sex and the City is my number one. So my
Speaker 4: number one is Sex and the City by far. So
Speaker 4: that's kind of bumping. Gilmore likes position six seven, so
Speaker 4: I'd say it's probably top eight if I to stay
Speaker 4: honest about it.
Speaker 2: Gotcha, Okay, I feel like I need to make my
Speaker 2: list now I know.
Speaker 7: And now that I'm thinking about it, I haven't really
Speaker 7: seen many series that are unscripted or that are sorry
Speaker 7: that are scripted?
Speaker 2: That what about like Gossip Girl? OC, No, you didn't
Speaker 2: watch those, They don't watch them.
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gold an.
Speaker 4: Order could be up there for me Svumber one.
Speaker 1: The question was specific to your experience growing up watching
Speaker 1: your shows as you grew up.
Speaker 4: Ten Top ten for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a very subjective poll that we're
Speaker 1: conducting here. Yeah, okay, so for my money, you know,
Speaker 1: the best shows I have, I'll compare it to the
Speaker 1: best shows I've ever seen. The Dick Van Dyke show,
Speaker 1: gets Smart. You know, there was some because you know,
Speaker 1: the Jackie the Honeymooners, the Jackie Gleason show. This, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm dating myself, but you know who cares because it
Speaker 1: combines a big heart with a big brain. You know,
Speaker 1: even something like Bewitched really smart.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say Happy Days. It's not up there
Speaker 4: for me, but it's like it's in the top twenty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got brains and heart to that theory, because
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girl really has brains and it's really got heart.
Speaker 1: So and those shows are iconic and I love Lucy
Speaker 1: as well, right, I mean, and they're all started in
Speaker 1: black and white? Did I age myself? So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put it in my my TV watching experience and series televison.
Speaker 1: You know, Gosh, I think I'm gonna put this in
Speaker 1: my top six because it's you know, you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta make room for Star Trek, you gotta make room
Speaker 1: for Jackie Gleason, you got to make room for Dick
Speaker 1: Van Dyke. You got to make room for those shows.
Speaker 1: So I think I think number six for me in
Speaker 1: my experience. So there you go, there you go anyway?
Speaker 1: Uh that.
Speaker 4: So now we've got the movies. So we've got four movies.
Speaker 1: With Winter, We've got Winter. We're gonna we're gonna do
Speaker 1: Winter first.
Speaker 2: That's the first one. You have to do it in
Speaker 2: order it comes in. So when they start with Winter.
Speaker 7: Right an hour?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So then are we doing.
Speaker 1: Like confiscate your clicker.
Speaker 4: I'm probably gonna have to split them up into part
Speaker 4: one and two.
Speaker 5: But watch it.
Speaker 4: I'll watch it as one watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of have to, Yeah what what watch
Speaker 2: the whole.
Speaker 4: Watch wind like watching in yeah yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: We can't jump ahead and watch no no.
Speaker 4: No, no, just Winter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So your assignments I gave you guys before, watch
Speaker 5: it twice, like, watch it once just to get it
Speaker 5: all in because it's not going to be don't expect
Speaker 5: it to be like a continuation of season seven, right right,
Speaker 5: Watch it just to get acclimated, and then watch it again, blowing.
Speaker 1: My mind, blowing my mind away. Okay, yeah, it can
Speaker 1: be a.
Speaker 5: Little jarring the first time, but then you watch it
Speaker 5: again and then you like it better.
Speaker 1: Jarring jarring.
Speaker 2: Pay two.
Speaker 4: Because we do have our pop culture, we still have
Speaker 4: to do the pop culture for this episode, so later
Speaker 4: this week you'll see the pop culture.
Speaker 1: All right, So that's going to wrap it up, everybody. Uh,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the ride with us
Speaker 1: through season one through seven, one hundred and fifty three
Speaker 1: episodes until you know, I thought we did twenty four
Speaker 1: episodes season one, but I see we only did twenty one,
Speaker 1: and then we did twenty two episodes season two through six,
Speaker 1: So grand total of one hundred and fifty three episodes.
Speaker 1: What a ride, what a team, what a ball club.
Speaker 1: Thank you ladies so much, and we will see you
Speaker 1: next time. Best fans on the planet of which I
Speaker 1: am now one and have been. Thank you all for
Speaker 1: your your loyalty and your fandom and your love and
Speaker 1: and your criticism as well. Because we loved it, we
Speaker 1: love to hear all sides of it anyway, All the
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