WEBVTT - Part Two: Focus on the Family: Love Won Out 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:07.320 Hello, audience. I'm not the audience. I'm the person who 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.320 makes things for the audience. Robert Evans. This is my 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:14.480 podcast Behind the Bastards, only this week. It's not because 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:20.000 this is part two of Garrison's armed coup against you know, 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:24.560 to usurp all of my powers. So um, once again, 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.760 who if you just say you don't know, somebody take over? 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:36.200 There's guns near him. Um, I'm Robert Evans. He brought 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:42.520 up Baton just wants eighteen because that statement was very sketchy. Yeah, 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.520 he's he's eighteen. It's fine. This is Behind the Bastards. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.320 We talk about bad people, and this is part two 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.320 of the episode that Garrison wrote, which is the first 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:58.000 reversing of the status quo we've had on this show. Garrison, 0:00:58.440 --> 0:00:59.600 what do we? What do we? What do we? What 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.040 do we talk about? Today? We last episode we were 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.800 talking about the history of Focus on the Family and 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:09.679 particularly James dubbson its founder. Today we're going to mainly 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:15.560 talk about gay conversion therapy. Uh yeah, a nice little light, 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.120 light topic. But we're gonna start off with something actually 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.400 a little bit more fun. Okay, We're gonna we're gonna 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:27.280 ease our way kind of into the less fun things. Um. 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:29.919 So yeah, last week we're talking about folks in the family. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.520 How it started, You know, Dobson getting very politically active 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.440 during the Reggan years with getting put on a whole 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.640 lot of weird government boards that he was not qualified for. Um. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.319 And then we learned about his media empire. And remember 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.280 that database that he was putting together. Yeah, yeah, the 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:51.040 gigantic mailing huge like millions and millions of people's mailing 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.240 lists that all the Republican lawmakers wanted to become friends 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.400 Dobson so that they could have access to the mailing list. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.560 Yeah yeah, why else would you be friends with someone? 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.840 That's the only reason I know you is your incredible 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:04.960 mailing list. Um. So yeah, you know, anyone who communicated 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:09.160 with them was added to mailing was huge thing um 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:13.000 in uh in two thousand three. So like the last 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:14.520 time you heard about the mailing list was around like 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:16.639 nine five's when it had like four million names. So 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.600 it's only been added two cents. It's hard to come 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.000 up with exact numbers because they didn't they talk about 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.200 it that much because it's you know, they shouldn't like 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:24.799 for them, it's not in their best interests to really 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.600 publicly talk about it. Yeah, because then people will think 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.640 that they're just numbers on a list to these people 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.760 who are pretending to be spiritual advisors. Yeah, yeah, pretending 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.240 to be your friend. Yeah. So in two thousand three, 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.240 Dobson actually stepped down as acting president and the chief 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:43.280 executive officer focus on the family. He was still remaining 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.079 like the figurehead over the organization, just less involved in 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.000 day to day activities. Um. As we'll learn most of 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.359 the day to day activities in the two thousand's were 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.360 being extremely homophobic, um and campaigning against the gay agenda 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.720 and what is scarcely give me a heads up, what 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.960 is the gay agenda? Well, we'll find out what Dobson 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:03.760 thinks it is. Okay, what they think is the GA 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.440 because that's term. That's a term that they used. Okay, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.919 it kind of got very popular for if I remember 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.760 being a conservative kid, well enough, the bulk of the 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.160 gay agenda had to do with the TV show Will 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.839 and Grace, but I don't remember much else from from 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.640 my Republican days. Yeah. Well, well we'll get into details 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.240 on what they think the gay agenda is. Um. But 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:29.000 before we get to that kind of depressing stuff. Um, 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.520 let's let's ease into the most funny homophobic thing that 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.760 Dobson and focus on the family ever ever did Oh good? 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.600 I love a little lighthearted homophobia from a man with 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.760 incredible wealth and power. Um so, this is this is 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.680 probably the best thing that's ever been done with this 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.600 database ever. In October two eight, about a month before 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:52.119 the eight presidential election, Dobson secretly wrote and sent out 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.160 this letter titled a Letter from a Christian in two 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:59.600 thousand twelve. I would love to just read this letter, 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.680 and it's piority do it, but because it's all because 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.400 it is absolutely magnificent, But it's it's over nine thousand words, 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:10.760 which is about as long as these two podcasts combined. Yeah, 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.920 that's that's about that's about two hours with commentary. Um 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.479 So I will have to go over some of the 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.760 highlights and kind of give just a general gist. Um, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.559 the concept of this letter. It's spelled, it's pronounced gift, 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.839 gift generals. It's a general gift. That doesn't sound right. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.400 I know because that was a lie. Garrison, Yeah, that 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.120 was a lie. It doesn't try to make you be 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.360 as bad at pronouncing things as I is. The concept 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:39.159 is that this letter was written by a Christian warning 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:43.680 those in what will happen if the then far left 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:48.160 radical Barack Obama was elected in two As an eight um, 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.680 I will just read off the opening of this letter 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.719 just you get kind of the mood of what the 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.640 piece is going to be. Here. Here's here's how it starts. 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:01.120 October twenty two, two thousand twelve. Dear friends, I can 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.600 hardly sing the star spangled banner anymore. When I hear 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:08.200 the words, oh, oh, say, does that star spangled banner 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.080 wave over the land of the Free? I get tears 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.320 in my eyes and a lump in my throat. Now 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.159 in October, after seeing what's happened the past four years, 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.640 I don't think I can still answer yes to that question. 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.240 We are not the land of the free, in the 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.520 home of the brave. Many of our freedoms have been 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.159 taken away by a liberal Supreme Court and a democratic 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.159 majority in both the House and the Senate, and hardly 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.799 any brave citizen dares to resist the new government policies anymore. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.840 Election was closer than Anyoney expected, but Barack Obama still won. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:45.000 Many Christians voted for Obama. Younger evangelicals actually provided him 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.960 with the needed margin to defeat John McCain, but they 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.240 didn't think he would really follow through with all the 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:54.120 far left policies that had made his career. They were wrong, 0:05:55.360 --> 0:06:00.359 far left policies like doing everything or Republican would do 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.960 except for being shitty on abortion and to gay people. Well, 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.960 even in twenty eight, Obama wasn't even for game. No 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:14.200 he was not yeah yeah, like basically a Republican but 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.520 not as not big at it as much. So like 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.000 I wasn't around, but I wasn't paying attention to the 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.360 twenty eight election because I was like six, um, so 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.920 like I don't know, that's not let's not dwell too 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:31.279 long on that continue. So like I don't like I've 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:35.719 I've heard legends of what Obama's campaign was, Like I 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.120 heard it was like very progressive in nature, but didn't 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.000 actually get followed through. It's like I'm trying to understand 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.480 from a Republican perspective, like were they actually like did 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:43.960 it actually make sense? They were scared like this far 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.839 left radical or was that now with Biden were like no, 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.040 he's not at all, Like he's not even pretending to be. 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.520 He was a little more. He definitely was playing to 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.039 the progressive side, whereas Biden's playing to the conservative side. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.280 But like the stuff he was talking about, like there 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.560 was talk of, you know, improving healthcare, he was going 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:05.559 to close GUANTANAMOBEI, he was gonna not get the US 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:10.000 into wars. But like, there wasn't a lot of there 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:14.559 wasn't a lot of Like he wasn't promising like social life, 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.960 full socialized medicine. He wasn't promising like he was promising 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.320 you know, improvements, but he wasn't promising like we're gonna 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.480 be like, you know, have an NHS like the UK. 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.520 And he wasn't promising like basic income or like he 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.640 was not he was running for the towards the progressive wing. 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:31.440 But like like you said, he wasn't even back in 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.600 gay marriage at that point. And here's the thing. Even 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.560 though for marijuana, even though Barack Obama is told it 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:42.080 as less progressive, in reality, Joe Biden is more progressive 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.720 than Barack Obama. Which you're looking at your face now, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.120 you're like, hey, yeah, but if you're going off of records, 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.920 if you're going off have record, you're not in what 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.720 Biden is running on now is technically you could consider 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.720 more progressive than what Obama did and looking at like 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.800 their records except or etcetera. But if you're looking at 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:09.840 like the I guess social side of it or the 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:14.480 you know, pr side of it, you definitely people looked 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:21.160 at Barack Obama as this extreme liberal progressive movement when 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:25.000 it it really wasn't anything of that. It was so 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:29.240 he was just a Democrat. He has a Democrat after 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.640 like the worst Republican ever had been present for a 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.640 rob I don't know, I'm still I'm still giving the 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:43.120 edge to Bush because Trump has not started two new wars. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.040 I'm sorry, Like we'll see Trump still has the chance 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:49.040 to be worse. But at this point in you're gonna 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:55.160 agree to disagree. Garrison finished your sentences because I've gone 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.760 an robber through the iPad. I mean, Trump got a 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.280 lot more Americans. I'll say this Trump got was a 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:06.600 worst president domestically because George W. Bush to the hell 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.600 of a lot more international day And so what what 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.679 this letter is going to be detailing for this far 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.840 left agenda is written by a conservative who was born 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:20.280 in the thirties, um who is again secretly wrote this 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.520 and send it out to everyone on his database. Right, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.000 So like it's just they just receive a letter from 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:29.680 a Christian in God, right, Like this is the concept 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.080 of the letter, and he's going to describe all of 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.000 the things that he thinks is gonna be is going 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.160 to be doing. I bet these have all happened. Yeah, 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.480 these things are all all absolutely exactly what happened. So 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:47.280 the first, the main problem that the author secretly, James 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.800 Dobson writes about is the is the Supreme Court because 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.079 Obama makes a six to three far less Supreme Court 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.760 having one party with that kind of dominance of the 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.240 Supreme What a nightmare, What a nightmare that would be 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.280 if we had a six to three Supreme Court leaning 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:10.920 on one side. Yeah, yeah, it could never happen. Um. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.800 So I'm going to read the first major change the 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:18.439 far left liberals enact. Um. So I'm gonna start. I'm 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.760 gonna quote from the letter here. The most far reaching 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.920 transformation of the American society came from the Supreme court 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:30.360 stunning affirmation in early that homosexual quote marriage was a 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.920 quote constitutional right that had to be respected in all 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.360 fifty states because laws barring same sexual marriage valid of 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.480 they broke the equal Protections clause in the Constitution. So 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:46.360 he he brought. He discusses how he thinks same sex 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.760 marriage is actually not constitutionally protected because of these dumb 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:54.120 things whatever. He gets very mad. He writes, suddenly homosexual 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.640 marriage was the law on the land in all fifty states. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.360 No state legislator, no state Supreme Court, no state constitutional amendment, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.720 not even Congress had any power to change it. The 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.880 Supreme Court had ruled and the discussion was over. This 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.959 was a plaintant example of the of of creating law 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.960 by the court instead of just interpreting it. For homosexual 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.040 marriage was mentioned nowhere in the Constitution, nor would any 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.080 of the office have imagined same sex quote marriage could 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.160 be derived from their words. So this is the first 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.280 huge change that happens in America. But I mean that 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:29.719 did happen and not but not happened much later on. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.160 But so now, the fun part of this letter is 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.480 that we get to hear about all of the bad 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.120 things that have happened because of this ruling. This ruling 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:41.600 is very important excited if you remember from the last 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.200 episode in two US and four, Dobson wrote this whole 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:48.360 book called um Marriage under fire. Yeah maybe or not. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.120 I mentioned in the last episode. I know I mentioned. 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.920 I mentioned it later, um, which is all about, you know, 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.480 what will happen to this country if homosexual marriage becomes 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.679 a thing. So now he gets to write this very 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:02.679 fun piece of fan fiction or excellence speculative fiction about 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.800 about what this change does. So the letter details far 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.800 reaching changes due to this decision. The first impact, the 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.840 letter writes, is that the Boy Scouts are no longer 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.840 an organization. This is the first thing. Yeah, okay, they 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:20.480 banned the Boy Scouts. So the Boy Scouts quote chose 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.200 to disband rather than be forced to obey the Supreme 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.480 Court decision that they would have to hire homosexual Scout masters, 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:31.319 which just sounds like good workplace discrimination laws to me. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.040 You know, it's like, it's that one of the reasons 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.199 that's kind of wild to me. Just I guess it's 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.720 not surprising because again, I grew up in this world. 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.120 But the the first gay person that I ever like 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:48.040 knew personally was a kid about a year older than me, 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.520 who I was an academic to kathlon with in high school, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.360 and we were both in the Boy Scouts and he 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.880 was about to finish his Eagle Scout and one day 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.559 we were like alone in this little classroom that we had, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:59.760 and he just kind of blurted out that he was 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.320 and then asked me not to tell anybody because he 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.920 didn't want to lose his eagle. And that was like 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.240 I was still like very hardcore, like like right wing 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.000 at this point, but that was like my first that 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.640 was in retrospect, kind of one of the first cracks 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.640 in my worldview because it was like, well, okay, I 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.079 like this guy, this guy's a friend of mine, Like 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:20.640 why is he so scared of admitting this thing that 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:25.160 doesn't seem good? Yeah, that doesn't seem like a society. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.319 It's a little off topic, but no, yeah, like that, 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.400 then that is it real? When I was when I 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.240 was growing up in the conservative circle, that was actually 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.760 a big fear is if if gays are allowed in 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.640 the boy Scouts, that's gonna that That was It was 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.960 a that was a hotly debated topic. Yeah it still is, 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.400 I think, Yeah, But stuff has changed since then without 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.000 without that voicecause as an organization operates where it's less 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.840 of a it's less of a big deal. But it 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:52.319 used to be really really a huge, big world. Oh, yeah, yeah, 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.040 I learned a lot of great stuff in the Boy Scouts. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.120 I really enjoyed my time in the Scouts. Not to 0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:01.360 whitewash the various significant problems that organization has, but um, yeah, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.640 it was. It was a good experience for me. So 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.880 the letter also details about the Boy Scouts unquote, it 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.079 had became increasingly difficult for the Boy Scouts to find 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.120 a meeting place anyway, because in two thousand nine, Congress 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.319 and President Obama signed an expansion of the Civil Rights Act, 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.520 which extended federal civil rights protections to people engaging in 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.240 homosexual behavior. So the Proud Boys have been kicked out 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.840 of all public facilities. No, not Proud Boys. Sorry, I'm 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.880 thinking we have there's a big fascist rally tomorrow. I'm 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.000 thinking Proud Boys. No, the Boy Scouts had had been 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.760 kicked out of all public facilities because there's like, the 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.400 Boy Scouts have become public enemy number one under Obama's 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.080 justice system. So they've been kicked out of all public 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.600 buildings because they don't because of their homosexual rules. Think 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.960 of how much more fun today would be if the 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.080 government was going full bore after the Boy Scouts and 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.280 not Antifa just running down twelve year olds in the street, 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:55.360 throwing them into unmarked vans, cub Scout troops disappearing in 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.840 the night. Because they don't like gay people. That's why 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.440 they ever been putting them down. Yeah, yeah, maybe they 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:05.760 didn't tie one of their rope not Oh my god, 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:12.600 that would be funny. I'm so sorry. Please continue. Other 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.680 aspects of this far left failing state are that schools 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.920 now teach gender science and incorporate queer studies into their 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:25.800 sex set. As a result, quote, tens of thousands of 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:30.400 Christian teachers either quit or were fired, and many Christian 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.960 private schools were chose to shut down rather than be 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.560 forced to quote obey the law and teach that homosexuality 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:41.360 and heterosexuality are both morally good choices. So all these 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.640 Christians school shut down because they would have been forced 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:48.760 to teach that both homosexuality and heterosexuality are like okay 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:53.760 and is the intens of thousands of teachers quick rather 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.720 than that, then do that. Also, Dobson was very upset 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:01.920 that jet you talk about gender now in sex. I 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:03.640 don't think we should talk about gender at all. I 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.920 don't think there should be genders. I think everyone should 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.120 just I think when it's time to breed, you should 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.880 just have one large group of people ejaculate into a 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.600 pool and then another group of people swim around in it. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.240 And if children happen, that's the only thought anyone ever 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.960 gives to it. If you can incorporate that into a 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.680 gender abolition argument, maybe you can get jobs on boards 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:25.520 on what he wrote. The key and I are allies 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.000 on this more gender. Yeah, we can, we can, we 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.000 can figure something out. We can. We can email him 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:35.800 he's still around. No, don't think about just a network 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:41.120 of semen pools all around the country. It's it could work, Sophie. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.680 No more gender continue, just a bunch of warm, salty 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:50.400 swimming pools. Today, speaking speaking of speaking of getting children 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.160 with no homes, which I feel like the swimming pool 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.040 idea would probably get some kids with not with not 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:59.040 many homes. Um. All Christian adoption agencies have been shut 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.640 down because they refuse to let gay couples adopt people. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.520 So that's a big thing in the Christian scene, is 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.879 Christian adoption agencies. I I know about this from experience 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:13.880 dealing with those adoption agencies. Um, yeah, they big. They 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.400 hate it when a gay person gets to get one 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.919 of the kids. Yeah, they try to avoid it at 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.280 all costs. Um, and stuff has changed now. But you 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.119 know dob Dobson's writing here when his family had to 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.240 like drive, like flee from a state or some ship, 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.040 they were like being chased or something. Yeah, so in 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.160 this fiction Dobson's rights here that they they just all 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:39.320 shut down instead of letting gay people adopt adopt. Um. 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.280 None of that is surprising. And one of my favorite 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.879 parts of this first section about the changes that like 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:49.520 gay rights made is that um in no one's allowed 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:55.520 to re allowed the Bible on TV and radio because 0:17:55.800 --> 0:18:00.640 I remember when they banned the Bible. There's the letter 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.920 the Bible could no longer be freely preached over radio 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.520 or television stations when the subject matter includes such offensive 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:12.960 quote doctrines such as criticizing homosexual behavior or other offensive 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:17.320 other offensive sections. Uh. The Streme Court agreed that these 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.240 should be kept off the air, prohibited as quote hate 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.840 speech that is likely to incite violence and discrimination. These 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.720 policies followed broadcasting and print restrictions that were in place 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:30.960 prior Toy eight in Canada, which is a lie. Yeah, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.040 it's just I don't know if you know said a lie. 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:34.800 It's a lie because like I was in I was 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.880 a Christian in Canada in a very conservative cultish environment. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.879 And no, I had friends whose parents would like preach 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.439 hate speech on the radio. No, I'm pretty sure that 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.639 kill everybody who so much as looks at a Bible 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.560 nearer radio. That's Canadian law. It's right under the thing 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:57.919 about making it illegal to falsify maple syrup. Yeah, the 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.399 famous Canadian legal code. No Bible, lots of syrup. Also, 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.080 the other main thing Mounties do is hunt down Indigenous 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.080 people and beat them up. Yeah, those are the three 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.119 main things they if they see. If they see a Bible, 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.680 they lose it. They see faking maple syrup, they lose it. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.199 If they see an Indigenous person, they freak out. The 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.480 three things everyone knows about the Mounties the thin reddish 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:23.639 thin line, the thin horse wearing line, the thin horse line. 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.200 So this does play into my theory that horses are 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.080 anyway you know, you know horses kill me right deathly 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.159 allergic to horses. I didn't know I get if I 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.520 get near one, it's bad. See everybody, like I was 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.040 right when I said we need horse genocide. Now human 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:40.560 beings need Sorry, all right, let's just go on speaking 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:44.440 of health related issues like not being around horses. Um. 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:49.200 Physicians and lawyers who reserved to who refused to serve 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:53.720 queer people lost their licenses. Um. If churches refused to 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:58.040 be used for LGBT weddings, they lose their tax exempt status. Um, 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:01.120 which is actually that's kind of an interesting idea. I mean, 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.560 I have quite I have my own opinions of churches 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.159 should be texed in any way, but like if a 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.560 lawyer and doctor like refuses to do their job on 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:13.040 someone because they're queer, maybe they should lose their license. 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.000 I agree with that with lawyers and doctors, like, I 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.240 don't think I think it's kind of a fake boogeyman 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.639 the idea that churches would be forced to marry anybody 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:25.120 like because it's never happened. Yeah, but yeah, I think 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.159 if you're a fucking doctor in somebody's like dying and 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:33.160 you're like, oh but gay, icky, like yeah, you shouldn't. Sorry, 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.240 I can't do this, Like I just as a guy 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:38.919 who carries a medical kid around it where like a rally, 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.160 and I see like a fucking proud boy get shot 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:43.359 and I have the ability to stop them from bleeding 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.199 to death. I'll try to stop them from bleeding to 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.600 death because it's just what you do. If you're not 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.280 going to do that, you have no right to call 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:53.720 yourself a fucking doctor. So here's another section about the church. 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.960 The church changes um quote. While churches are still free 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.919 to turn down homosexual applicants for the job of senior pastor, 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.560 churches and para church organizations are no longer free to 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:08.480 reject homosexual applicants for staff positions such as part time 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.720 youth pastor and and director of counseling. Those that have 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:16.240 rejected homosexual applicants have also had their tax exempt status revoked. 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:19.399 I love how granular they are about how much the 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:23.200 Obama administration was going to interfere with like the staffing 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:28.000 decisions local churches. Nine thousand words in the letter. They 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:31.880 get into a lot of detail. It's you couldn't even 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.919 get the website working for the shitty healthcare plan he 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.160 gave us, Like what do you do you think he's 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:40.120 gonna be like, no, you can't seen your staff are 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.359 allowed to you can? You can, you can refuse to 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:45.160 hire gay for them. But if you hire a youth pastor. 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.840 They have to be allowed to be like, how do 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:52.080 what are you imagining them sitting down and doing it's nine. 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:56.320 I'm cutting out so much like small details. He adds on, 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.280 it's astonished he would be here for two hours. It's 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.520 just a sta mishing. Ah, it's real. It's really a 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:06.120 great letter. Um. One of the few semi accurate predictions 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.760 he actually made was that um, don't ask, don't tell. 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:13.160 Got ended, yes, Um. But with the weird addition that 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.960 Dobson says new LGBT people enrolling the military are given 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:21.080 a special bonus for enlisting into military service to compensate 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:25.840 for past discrimination. I remember that the gay bounty that 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.639 the army gives up, so they get gay people get 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.359 paid extra for being in the military because they were 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.560 discriminated against in the past. So yeah, that sounds like 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:38.159 a thing that the army does. That that sounds like 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:42.280 the army. Um. So again here he he restates if 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:45.720