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Speaker 1: strong language and depictions of bullying, violence, and sexual assault

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Speaker 1: that some may find disturbing. Listener discretion is advised. Also,

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Speaker 1: You're listening to The.

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Speaker 2: Maniwauk Caves, a production of iHeartRadio, Blumhouse Television, and Psycopia Pictures.

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Speaker 3: I borrowed Jimmy's bike so I could ride back to

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Speaker 3: the Fowler State to get my car. The breeze was

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Speaker 3: cool and the air smells sweet like the cane apple.

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Speaker 3: Stark shadows cut across the road, and I felt like

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Speaker 3: a teenager again, racing with the moon across Maniwauc County.

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Speaker 3: When I got to the driveway, it was taped off.

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Speaker 3: The house was still smoldering up at the top to

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Speaker 3: the driveway. It was completely good about fire, but my

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Speaker 3: car was still there parts in the yard halfway up.

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Speaker 3: I popped up in my laptop and then I saw

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Speaker 3: amongst the floody emails, there was one from Tyler. The

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Speaker 3: subject just said good luck, and there was one file

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Speaker 3: attached with the label play me, So I did.

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Speaker 4: It's August six, twenty twenty one. My name is Tyler Wilson.

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Speaker 4: I'm recording this so that there'll be a record. I

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Speaker 4: was going to leave the letter, but that's not how

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Speaker 4: it works. How it works is you have to listen.

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Speaker 4: I need you to hear this, all right, especially you, Julian,

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Speaker 4: not just my voice. I got the idea from you.

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Speaker 4: So when I took you back to the caves last week,

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Speaker 4: you were recording everything on that micro cassette, because of

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Speaker 4: course you were, because the devil's into details. That's what

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Speaker 4: they say. Ry the noise and all the noises I've

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Speaker 4: been hearing, they're all from the caves, from the evil

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Speaker 4: one that inhabits the caves. He fears the light of

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Speaker 4: the world, so he hides inside the caves or in

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Speaker 4: the fog. If you ever stood at the mouth of

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Speaker 4: the caves and hollered, you hear your voice bounce back.

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Speaker 4: It's a natural echo chamber, and so one second to

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Speaker 4: lay I've timed it, and when your voice bounced back

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Speaker 4: to you, it's different. It's like it's been processed or replaced. No,

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Speaker 4: it ain't your voice that bounces back. It's his, the

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Speaker 4: devil calling from inside the caves, calling your name. The

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Speaker 4: caves run deep, they go for centuries. They operate with

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Speaker 4: their own logic, dream logic, and infinite kind of clockwork

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Speaker 4: of invisible gears, driven by a mainspring that stretches across dimensions,

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Speaker 4: wound up by forces unseen. I'm only human sea, I

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Speaker 4: mean flesh and blood, pretty good brain and a nervous

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Speaker 4: system hardwired to pick up data points collected through five senses,

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Speaker 4: observable phenomenas, signs. But I've been studying it, this clockwork,

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Speaker 4: charting mechanics, formulating proofs.

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Speaker 5: I figured out a few things.

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Speaker 6: I know that.

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Speaker 4: There were rules, and if you break them, that's when

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Speaker 7: I feel like it's all here somehow in this recording

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Speaker 7: I made at Tyler's place, Maybe Tyler himself holds the

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Speaker 7: key to unlocked.

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Speaker 5: The truth, the piece of tim.

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Speaker 8: The true good blood, like the suit.

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Speaker 5: To leave behid.

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Speaker 3: Sure if I want to follow a missing persons support

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Speaker 3: for Tyler Wilson.

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Speaker 4: AHw People disappear all the time, Julian, what makes you

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Speaker 4: think Tyler is missing?

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Speaker 6: Side of the struggle at his house? And what were

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Speaker 4: Like me from all will be?

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Speaker 8: What's broken?

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Speaker 9: Wouldn't Julian Tyler was seen on Friday, Good Morning after

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Speaker 9: you went to his place where Riverbend Maximum Security Institution

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Speaker 9: in Nashville apparently paid a visit to James.

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Speaker 4: I'm remembering things, moving images, just like impressions. At first,

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Speaker 4: like from a dream or maybe one of those old

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Speaker 4: horror movies they put out on public access in the

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Speaker 4: middle of night. Thought maybe I passed out in my

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Speaker 4: chair to the sound of screams and butcher knives. But

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Speaker 4: these images would repeat my mind over and over and

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Speaker 4: over and over and over, like a fever dream. Then

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Speaker 4: one morning, I'm in the shower and the hot water

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Speaker 4: did suddenly like it was ice cold on my back,

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Speaker 4: kind of like shock therapy, And just like that, an

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Speaker 4: image locked into focus, like I found it again after

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Speaker 4: it had been lost and the recesses of my brain

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Speaker 4: for like fifteen years a memory Deacon Hadley screaming his

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Speaker 4: final words. But the image was low resolution, of grainy

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Speaker 4: and interlaced like a home movie. And there was blood,

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Speaker 4: blood on the lens and that right there, that's when

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Speaker 4: I remembered.

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Speaker 5: The camera. I remembered the camera.

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Speaker 4: I remember the weight of it in my hands and

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Speaker 4: how it made my shoulder hurting after an hour, pulling

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Speaker 4: it out in front of me. And that's how I

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Speaker 4: was able to confirm that it wasn't a dream because

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Speaker 4: I found it. I found the fucking camera, and now

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Speaker 4: now I know what happened. I know, but I ain't

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Speaker 4: supposed to say. That's rule number one. Never speak about it.

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Speaker 4: Never talk about what you saw in the caves or

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Speaker 4: think you saw or ever fucking dreamed, And never.

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Speaker 5: Ever talk about him, because he knows.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes he uses spies, other people and animals, uses their

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Speaker 4: eyes and ears. And if you tell that's when it

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Speaker 4: comes for you, That's that's when he comes, just like

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Speaker 4: he's coming for me. Now. I didn't used to know

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Speaker 4: when he was close, lurking in the shadows, working working well,

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Speaker 4: I slept, But now I know. I know when he's coming,

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Speaker 4: and I can feel him moving through the fog, closer

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Speaker 4: and closer to me. I used to freeze and try

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Speaker 4: It don't matter, don't help, nothing helps. Eventually he finds me.

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Speaker 4: I tried everything everything I could think of to elude

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Speaker 4: mask my sin tried everything from garlic to God, damn

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Speaker 4: Roman therapy, Jews, cleansing to Jesus. Nothing helps. Can't hide,

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Speaker 4: can't run. He always hunts me. Now, So under normal circumstances,

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Speaker 4: But these ain't normal circumstances, all right, observable phenomenon. The

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Speaker 4: temperature drops to exactly fifty eight grades when he's coming.

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Speaker 4: It's sixty eight now and dropping was seventy one before.

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Speaker 4: When I hit record, the woods get quiet too, wind stops,

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Speaker 4: the mosquitoes vanish. It's like all of God's creatures simultaneously

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Speaker 4: get the fuck out of his way. Then the fox

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Speaker 4: sets in heavy like it is now. It rolled in

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Speaker 4: thick the day you came home, Julian.

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Speaker 5: Fuck.

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Speaker 4: But in a few minutes, I I'm not gonna be

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Speaker 4: able to see three feet unnatural forces working on the

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Speaker 4: physical world disguised as natural phenomena. Am I scared?

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Speaker 6: Hell?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm scared.

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Speaker 5: I can't soft shaken.

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Speaker 4: But at least I finally know what to do, what

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Speaker 4: has to be done.

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Speaker 5: So here we go. I'm starting to clock for the record.

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Speaker 4: It is one eleven am.

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Speaker 5: It's only a matter of time.

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Speaker 4: Before it comes for me, before he gets in and

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Speaker 4: raises my head again, or worse, he's already on his way.

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Speaker 4: I'm praying you get this message to land, and I

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Speaker 4: hope to hell that you listen.

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Speaker 6: Good.

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Speaker 4: All right, best get started. I know it won't be

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Speaker 4: long now, I know. I know because I know the signs.

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Speaker 4: I know your rules, your son of a bitch, fuck it.

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Speaker 10: I've never been much one for rules anyway.

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Speaker 4: Lock time time, Hey finch, what's it like? What waiting

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Speaker 4: to die?

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Speaker 6: Know?

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Speaker 4: And you only have one week left?

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Speaker 11: M All of a sudden, they're serving decent food, French

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Speaker 11: only so many heart beats living.

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Speaker 4: You know, of all the people who have ever been alive,

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Speaker 4: only in tiny fraction of them ever knew the exact

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Speaker 6: I guess that's true.

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Speaker 4: Schedule. Death is not a thing our brains are wired

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Speaker 4: to work with. So what happens next?

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Speaker 12: They'll move me off the road to when isolated sales.

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Speaker 12: Soon they don't let you out at all.

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Speaker 6: The last couple of.

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Speaker 4: Days they let you read.

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Speaker 12: Depends on what custodian is for now, I got a radio,

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Speaker 12: some paper, no shop objects.

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Speaker 6: So they gave me crayns.

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Speaker 4: What you're listening to?

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Speaker 6: Mostly, I just listened to the stuff between static. Guess

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Speaker 6: who comes to see me? Fucking Reverend Perkins.

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Speaker 12: Can you believe that he's been in here every day

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Speaker 12: this week? Now?

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Speaker 4: Shit, hell's he wont.

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Speaker 6: It's not to save my soul, that's for damn sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fucker.

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Speaker 12: He wants a confession, something shining to take back to

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Speaker 12: his flock. Maybe my repentance too, but only so he

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Speaker 12: can be right. He asked me to pray with him

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Speaker 12: every time.

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Speaker 4: What do you say?

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Speaker 6: I tell him he's not the one that gets to

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Speaker 5: What did he say to that?

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Speaker 6: Who is the author?

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Speaker 12: Your life may be in the hands of the state,

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Speaker 12: but God is in charge of your salvation. It's not

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Speaker 12: too late to accept Jesus.

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Speaker 6: Accept Jesus as your.

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Speaker 12: Lord and savior, and you can free your soul. I

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Speaker 12: told him it was best for me to stay. The

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Speaker 12: monster told him he had his part to.

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Speaker 6: Play, and I got mine. Then he says his part

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Speaker 6: is to offer me salvation.

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Speaker 4: His parts keep fair alive.

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Speaker 6: He'll be back too tomorrow and the next day and

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Speaker 6: the day after that till.

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Speaker 12: There ain't nothing to come back to anymore.

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Speaker 4: I almost killed somebody last night.

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Speaker 6: Wait what Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I woke up to the sounds fourth entry, someone breaking up.

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Speaker 4: Oh the fuck out of bed. Peeked out of the

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Speaker 4: I mean, I thought it was Julian Julie. I was

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Speaker 4: just shooting up the place, blew the glass, coffee table

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Speaker 4: and I slipped into the closet where I keep my shotgun.

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Speaker 5: I grabbed it, waited then he started tearing the.

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Speaker 4: Place, part ripped the bookshelves down, shattered glass everywhere. Once

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Speaker 4: he settled down bed, I heard the fridge open. Fucks.

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Speaker 4: Then he came in my room, opened the door.

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Speaker 5: And just stood there.

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Speaker 4: Breathing, slowly, real calm like. I told him I had

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Speaker 4: didn't want to have to kill anyone.

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Speaker 5: You don't get out of here, right, fucking airfucker just laughed.

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Speaker 4: You hear me? And uh, it surprised me that laugh.

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Speaker 4: It was high, like a teenager's laugh. Reminded me of

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Speaker 4: Thomas Hadley's laugh. Anyway, I lost my nerve. I ain't

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Speaker 4: shooting no kid. But he he retreated, backed up into

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Speaker 4: the moonlight, and then I saw him, and what the fuck?

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Speaker 4: You wouldn't believe that the fuck?

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Speaker 6: It was Finch, my nephew, Jimmy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, little Jimmy. Well he ain't so little

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Speaker 4: Maybe he's just a misguided youth, or maybe he's spent

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Speaker 6: I was talking about Dennis said he's been sneaking out

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll be goddamned. You always were special, like that.

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Speaker 5: Crazy shit.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, I know Tom is precious for both of us.

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Speaker 4: So why do you ask me here, Finch?

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Speaker 6: Just that my dreams?

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Speaker 4: What about you're in them, and.

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Speaker 6: And that ain't usually a good sign. Tie. The thing

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Speaker 4: Okay, then what'd you dream.

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Speaker 6: That you was in the caves? Well, some of you

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Speaker 4: Sounds about right.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Look, whatever you're trying to do right now, you

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Speaker 4: Maybe it ain't about winning. And what about you? Huh

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Speaker 6: I mean it depends.

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Speaker 12: They're working on the last appeal, all right, Dina and

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Speaker 12: Mister Hadley, he may be asking for clemency for me himself,

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Speaker 12: And Julie.

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Speaker 6: Is gonna take back what he said his testimony. You're

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Speaker 5: Julie's not the fucking point, man.

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Speaker 6: It says that sentences have been commuted for far less

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Speaker 5: Not talking about that.

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Speaker 6: Man, Wait the fuck is wrong with two? I'm trying

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Speaker 13: Okay, you can't just see that.

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Speaker 6: What it's the wool time He's keep your trap shot.

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Speaker 5: We never speak about it, Okay, we never.

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Speaker 13: Talk about the caves, right because you don't like it

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Speaker 4: I am well aware.

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Speaker 6: I haven't all right.

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Speaker 12: I haven't said a word. Man. I couldn't be right here,

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I think I've got a fucking chance here.

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Speaker 12: And a week out before my execution ain't exactly the

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Speaker 4: Going up against the state is one thing. Finch, going

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Speaker 5: So I'm afraid, and.

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Speaker 4: I'm just afraid it's too late if we.

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Speaker 13: Don't tell right. God right, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Feels an awful hot like it don't matter regardless of

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Speaker 4: I come home Julian, and he's losing his ship right now.

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Speaker 4: It's only a matter of time.

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Speaker 6: It's a bribe.

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Speaker 12: Reverend Perkins my confession said if I did it, if

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Speaker 12: I confess to the murders, he would make sure Diana

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Speaker 6: Said the church would become a.

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Speaker 12: Beacon a lot and he'd see to it himself, personally,

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Speaker 6: A proper Baptist.

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Speaker 12: He'd also have the church set up in five to

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Speaker 4: I see. So if you confess the thing you didn't do,

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Speaker 4: the Almighty is more powerful than the devil. You just

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Speaker 4: give him his wins save your family from what the

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Speaker 4: if instead of confessing to a crime that you didn't commit,

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Speaker 4: walk away free man, maybe, but you be breaking.

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Speaker 6: The rule.

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Speaker 4: His rules.

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Speaker 6: It's something like that.

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Speaker 4: That's a hell of a predicament. Finch your life for

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Speaker 6: What are you saying?

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying is I'm done. I'm done playing by

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Speaker 6: It's the less time of the Moe.

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Speaker 4: Who knows, maybe you'll see me in your dreams.

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Speaker 2: Julian Sallace, Eddie Gatheggy as James Fincher, Clark Peters as

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Speaker 2: Detective Solomon Smith, Nick Cercy as Sheriff Kirby Hooper, Justin

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Speaker 2: Brad Carter as Dooleye Tappert, Scott Poethrus as Reverend Perkins,

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Speaker 2: Samantha Ashley as Dina Fincher, Justin Matthew Smith as Paul Sawace,

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Speaker 2: Tara Oaks says Laura Sawas, Jonathan Horn as Deacon Hadley,

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Speaker 2: Vic Palisis as William Fowler, Nick Takosky as Richard Rydell,

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Speaker 2: and Aileen Loyd as The Darkness, with additional performances by

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Speaker 2: by Dan Bush, Zoe Cooper and Nicholas Dakosky, featuring our

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Speaker 6: Soup.

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