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Speaker 1: But before we talk food, let's talk policy and the

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Speaker 1: For this is such an important point. Joining us on

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Speaker 1: What do you what economic pitch, Congresswoman, Your Democrats need

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Speaker 1: they worry about their paychecks, and they worry about what

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Speaker 1: You know, that's why we did focus on raising the

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Speaker 1: Congresswoman Sylvia Garcia's on the line. She's a Democrat from Texas. Uh,

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Speaker 1: should it should? Should? There be a public private option.

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Speaker 1: Where do you stand on Medicare for all? Is it's smart?

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Speaker 1: For Should the Democratic Party stand on Medicare for all? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Affordable Care Act has been a lifesaver

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Speaker 1: Any any cuts or any changes to the Affordable Care

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Speaker 1: from there. Uh. You know, I'm an old social worker

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Speaker 1: Medicare and making a build to everyone. I'm not signed up,

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Speaker 1: you know, just to be perfectly candid on any of

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Speaker 1: you know, and I said this in the spin room.

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Speaker 1: sorting through it. It's so early in the process. You've

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Speaker 1: are people are figuring it out. Last question before I

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Speaker 1: certainly open to it. All right. Last question, where should

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Speaker 1: best place in Houston to get some tacos so tonight? Well, uh, regrettably,

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Speaker 1: first stops that make is a good binge of of tacolas.

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Speaker 1: But for me, it's Tex makes crispy beef tacos and

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Speaker 1: those you can find it Donis Restaurant Navigation. Alright, five

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Speaker 1: minutes from downtown to Houston. They do not serve dinner. Woman,

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Speaker 1: you're breaking my heart, all right, corgress, all right, well,

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Speaker 1: thank you all to come back to Houston for lunch.

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Speaker 1: To come back to Houston for lunch coming up much

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Speaker 1: more politics and policy. Thank you to Congresswoman Sylvia Garcia

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Speaker 1: of the Democrat from Texas. I'm Kevin Surreally, chief Washington

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Speaker 1: correspondent from Bloomberg Television in Bloomberg Radio, and you're listening

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Speaker 1: Uh this weekend and in the future, uh, maybe even

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Speaker 1: heading into the third debate next month in Ohio. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: just to pick up with your last point about taxes,

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Speaker 1: move on to what's on your radar? And anything anything

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Speaker 1: And and that's when I'm paying attention to national dialect

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Speaker 1: Politics Quarter. I think this sort of unfolding story about

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Speaker 1: this just feels like the kind of thing that people

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