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Speaker 1: Hey, there are folks. It's July twenty eighth, and first

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Speaker 1: she wants us to buy soap that was made out

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Speaker 1: of her bath water. Now Sydney Sweeney wants us to

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Speaker 1: buy her jeans. Why are people pissed about this? Welcome

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Speaker 1: everybody to this episode of Amy and TJ.

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Speaker 2: Road.

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Speaker 1: It's not that simple. It's almost anything she does people

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Speaker 1: are gonna pay attention to, and some people find a

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Speaker 1: way to criticize It's just gens. That's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: It's just gens. But it's a new ad collaboration Sidney

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Speaker 2: Sweeney has with American Eagle, and it's created such a

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Speaker 2: kerfuffle and it's controversial for more than one reason, according

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Speaker 2: to people who are lashing out at Sidney Sweeney and

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Speaker 2: or American Eagle. However, American Eagle stock is soaring because

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Speaker 2: of the whole controversy and perhaps just even because of

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Speaker 2: a very clever ad campaign that some folks are taking

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Speaker 1: So what can we just call this what it is?

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Speaker 1: This is a clever ad that plays on her appearance,

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Speaker 1: and this is selling sex period. I'm not overstating that right.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, and selling her beauty, oh for sure.

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Speaker 1: And that's nobody's criticizing have a problem with that? Is

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Speaker 1: that fair to say? I just want to establish where

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Speaker 1: we are here.

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Speaker 2: No one's criticizing the fact that they're selling sex and

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Speaker 2: they're selling jeans in a very.

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Speaker 1: Hot body boom.

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Speaker 2: That's been going on since the beginning of time.

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Speaker 1: So what's the other one? She had the soap I

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Speaker 1: can't remember the name of the group, but she had

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Speaker 1: a name of the organization, but she partnered with a

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Speaker 1: that were made out or had a portion of her

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Speaker 1: bathwater mixed into it. Again, selling sex.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she's the hottest thing, one of the hottest things

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Speaker 2: in Hollywood right now, and several brands are capitalizing on that,

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Speaker 2: and she's capitalizing on it as well. I mean, she's

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Speaker 2: an actress, she's beautiful, she's gorgeous, she's young.

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Speaker 1: Go get that money, girl. I got no problem with that.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what actresses. That's a I mean, let's just

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Speaker 2: call a spade a spade. This is what folks do.

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Speaker 1: But again, we don't want to anyway criticize this young lady.

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Speaker 1: She should go get that money. She is as hot

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Speaker 1: as she is figuratively and literally. Some will argue because

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Speaker 1: this lot is about her beauty. Every time I walk

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Speaker 1: into Sephora, which is about two times a week, I

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Speaker 1: her more on an ad than I have in a movie.

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Speaker 1: That's me. That's just the truth. But go get it.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually excited for, happy for and see her capitalizing

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Speaker 1: on how hot she is right now. I applaud all

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Speaker 1: that she does. I didn't understand the genes initially.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch the ads?

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Speaker 1: I get it now. I get it now, but I

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Speaker 1: only would have gotten it on the ad that was

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Speaker 1: the one. There are different versions of the ad. This

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Speaker 1: one was American Egle, the one they had online where

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Speaker 1: she was putting the ad essentially on a billboard here

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Speaker 1: correct New York. That one that had genes crossed out

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Speaker 1: to say j E A n s instead of G

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Speaker 1: E n ees. Now, when I saw the word genes,

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Speaker 2: Right, And so in the ad, this is the big

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Speaker 2: ad that has a lot of people upset. They're talking hitlerresque,

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Speaker 2: they're talking all sorts of scary things like eugenics, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But Sidney Sweeney says, genes, as in G. E, N E. S.

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Speaker 2: Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining

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Speaker 2: traits like hair color, personality, and even eye color. My

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Speaker 2: genes are blue. And while she's saying this, there's the

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Speaker 1: Okay again, I think still a lot of folks look

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Speaker 1: would love to get rid of of that word, because

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Speaker 1: woke denotes something that's negative or an overreach. It is

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Speaker 2: The problem, right, because obviously American Eagle was being cute

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Speaker 1: A lot of would say cute and clever.

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Speaker 2: Right, But some of the comments and it does get

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Speaker 2: you thinking. One of them getting a blue eyed, blonde,

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Speaker 2: too close to the master race propaganda and echoed eugenics

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Speaker 1: So that's some recognized it immediately. Genes, this idea, good genes,

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Speaker 1: a good chance to do a history lesson because what

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Speaker 1: was the crap? What was the one we just had

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Speaker 2: Was that the which the one who had used the

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Speaker 1: The second one who was talking about the way she

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Speaker 2: She compared herself to the Asian eyes. She said, her

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Speaker 1: That young lady. I was surprised afterwards, and I said

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Speaker 1: I said, she probably didn't know what she was saying.

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Speaker 1: She probably didn't know it was wrong. She probably didn't

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Speaker 1: know she was using a slur at all. And that's

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Speaker 1: what she came out and later said. But Robes, we

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Speaker 2: Right. She thought she was just describing an eye shape

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Speaker 1: Is it possible that this is where we are now,

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Speaker 1: because when this idea of good genes and this idea

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Speaker 1: So people see genes and this idea of good genes

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Speaker 1: immediately this jumped out. But Rob's argument, is it possible

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent? I don't think they could have. In

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Speaker 2: some of the comments in many of these forums said, hey,

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Speaker 2: while you all were discussing your ad campaign? How did

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Speaker 2: not one person flag this? And I actually had to

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Speaker 2: go back and look up eugenics because I wanted to

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Speaker 2: know exactly what it is. What the definition of eugenics

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Speaker 2: is to your point what you were saying, it is

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Speaker 2: the study of how to arrange reproduction with a human

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Speaker 2: And so yes, this was the exact study that was

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Speaker 2: used by Nazis in order to justify their treatment of Jews,

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Speaker 2: So this is history, and some would say, scare being

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Speaker 2: Some of the words she used were very eerie and

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Speaker 1: The good genes is the exact phrase that has been used.

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Speaker 1: So in the ad she had robes where she was again,

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Speaker 1: she was essentially putting up a billboard here in New York,

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Speaker 1: and it said genes g E n E S and

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Speaker 1: it was crossed out to say j E A N S.

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Speaker 1: That one was the one that disturbed me most. I

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Speaker 1: the word gene spelled out, I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: the ads talking about genes, they're talking about Janet, You're

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Speaker 1: talking about what many deem now as the perfect white woman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. That's scary, And I just I think what's

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Speaker 2: even more frightening is that this did not cross anyone's mind.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's scary. The scarier scenario for me is

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Speaker 1: they knew exactly what the hell this was gonna set off.

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Speaker 1: What if a company that gears and markets and stuff

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Speaker 1: We don't give a damn about a diverse community being

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Speaker 1: else be damned. That is another scenario that I hope

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Speaker 2: Wow, I hadn't even considered that it was acknowledged and

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Speaker 2: An American Eagle hasn't commented in any way about this

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Speaker 2: But certainly it's been effective.

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Speaker 1: But there are some I mean, we've seen it. I

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Speaker 1: didn't realize that, we didn't recognize we have seen I mean,

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Speaker 1: how many times and how many meetings I have been

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Speaker 1: in more so than you, meetings where I'm the only

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Speaker 1: black guy. You've never had that experience. No, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I've not ever been the only black guy in a room.

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Speaker 2: But I have.

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Speaker 1: Thirty people telling me something is right, and I'm the

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Speaker 1: to do on fried chicken, and I actually said, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a bad look. And some folks

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Speaker 1: just didn't get it for a number of reasons that

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Speaker 2: I really, I want to believe believe that this is

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Speaker 2: maybe they're too young, as you point out, to even

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Speaker 2: think about World War two or the Nazis or the

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Speaker 2: whole eugenics. They might not even know what that phrase is.

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Speaker 2: They may just thought, hey, here, let's have some fun

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Speaker 2: with this cute, hot girl and let's talk about her

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Speaker 2: good jeans and have her be in good jeans. And

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Speaker 2: so I want to believe that is where it began,

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Speaker 2: Yes. So the second advertisement you see, yes, the camera

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Speaker 1: It's just tough for their part American Eagle and putting

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Speaker 1: Maybe you've seen has she lent her voice to it?

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Speaker 1: All right, So genes denim genes are controversial because of

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to this of Amy and TJ where

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Speaker 2: we are talking about Sydney Sweeney's new ad campaign with

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Speaker 1: Racial hygiene is the way it's been put over the

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Speaker 1: it's trying to bring these immigrants into your community, this

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Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, that went right over my head.

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Speaker 2: right now. You know, it's something now that you start

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Speaker 1: And again we can't put on a meaning we can

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Speaker 1: that kid's got some good genes. Yeah, no matter what

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Speaker 1: I think people have said that, but it does and

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Speaker 1: it's important if anything comes out of those robes, maybe

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Speaker 1: So if Sidney's Wenian an American eagle are at least giving

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Speaker 2: I think that's a really good way to look at it,

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Speaker 2: because I really hadn't heard much about this good gene

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Speaker 2: and this is a moment in time when yes, people

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Speaker 2: and sure, yeah, she does have good genes. Of course

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Speaker 2: I want to believe again that American Eagle didn't recognize

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Speaker 2: what they were referencing historically. They were just being cutesy.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes, you know, you know, when you're doing some

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Speaker 2: of these campaigns, or even when you're speaking off the cuff,

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Speaker 2: being cutesy a lot of times can get you into

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Speaker 2: a heap of trouble because you don't realize necessarily where

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Speaker 2: that's coming from and where it's based from.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Let's give everybody the benefit of

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Speaker 1: out on this one, and look, hope everybody possibly learned something.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait for the next campaign that Sydney Sweeney does,

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Speaker 1: because you know it's gonna be something.

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Speaker 2: Bathwater jeans. What's next?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh maybe look a.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a dark rum. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that, Todney. All right, well, we appreciate you

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Speaker 1: hanging with Austin, and please give everybody a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a break. You can be upset, but you don't

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Speaker 1: have to fight. I guess ignorance with ignorance and bring

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Speaker 1: so much heat. We call this and sometimes the words

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Speaker 1: that are used in tabloid headlines backlash and outcry and

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Speaker 1: slap back and slam and all that. Not necessarily. There's

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Speaker 1: a discussion happening about this, and it's a worthy one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe and I learned something. We can all

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Speaker 2: learn something from this. So yes, we should all do

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Speaker 2: our research and take a look and not necessarily jump

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Speaker 2: to worst case scenarios. And I think that's just a

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Speaker 2: lesson for all of us today. So thank you for

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Speaker 2: listening to us. I'm Amy Robach along with TJ. Holmes.

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Speaker 2: Hope you have a wonderful day, everybody.

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Speaker 1: That's two him