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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, This is Gazelle Bryant, one half of the

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Speaker 1: hit podcast Reasonably Shady on the Black Effect Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: You also might know me as one of the stars

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Speaker 1: of the Real Housewives of Potomac. But today it's all

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Speaker 1: about being reasonable with no shade required. I'll be sitting

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Speaker 1: down for a conversation with a few names you know,

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Speaker 1: including another member of the Black Effect family, d J. Envy.

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Speaker 1: He's a radio Hall of Famer and a founding member

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Speaker 1: of the Breakfast Club. We're getting together to talk about

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Speaker 1: historically black colleges and universities. HBC use one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite subjects. Nvy and I are both Hampton University alumni,

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Speaker 1: and we carry so much pride for the school that

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Speaker 1: helps shape us into what we are today. We hope

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Speaker 1: that many more kids across the country can share the

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Speaker 1: same experiences that we did, and our special guest feels

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Speaker 1: exactly the same way. NBA superstar Chris Paul is working

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Speaker 1: to make sure that the next generation of black excellence

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Speaker 1: will thrive. Since two thousand and five, the Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: Family Foundation has been striving to positively impact individuals and

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Speaker 1: families by leveling the playing field and education, sports and life.

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Speaker 1: So let's learn a little bit more about Chriss Foundation

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Speaker 1: and why HBCUs mean so much to him. Here's our conversation,

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Speaker 1: presented by State Farm, like a good neighbor. State Farm

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Speaker 1: is there? Hey, what up? Y'allic's DJ and being I'm

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Speaker 1: here with my sister Gizelle Briant my Hampton alumni system.

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Speaker 1: Now we both intended an h b c U. All right, um,

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Speaker 1: a couple of years apart, which is I was a

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Speaker 1: little older than me. I would I would have to say,

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Speaker 1: but but um, you know, let's start off with you

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Speaker 1: know h bc uh is that? Why did you decide

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Speaker 1: to attend an HBCU? You know? And V I have

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Speaker 1: to tell you, I I really lucked up on going

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Speaker 1: to an HPCU. My dad went to a black college

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Speaker 1: and he was nudging me in that direction. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know it, but he was. You know, my dad was

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Speaker 1: very influential in the civil rights movement. He's all about

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Speaker 1: empowering the black community and doing what's best for um us.

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Speaker 1: But when I got there is when I figured out

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Speaker 1: I was looking around and I was seeing people that

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Speaker 1: had the same background as me, that looked like me,

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Speaker 1: that talk like me, thought like me, And I realized, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is special, right, this is family. This is a

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Speaker 1: community that cares about each other. And you know, Black people,

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Speaker 1: we we live different, we love different, we learned different.

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Speaker 1: So I was at a place where I was learning

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Speaker 1: with people that knew how to learn like I knew

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Speaker 1: how to learn. It was an experience that I'm so

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Speaker 1: grateful for. You know, you know, you're running into people

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Speaker 1: all the time. They went to Hampton and they've running

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Speaker 1: the point and you're like hampted class or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's pride, it's legacy. Um. Now my children are

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Speaker 1: all in high school. Have three girls have priss? How

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Speaker 1: you don't I have three girls and they're looking at

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Speaker 1: at at colleges, and unlike me, they're not looking up

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Speaker 1: best for them. So I'm super excited about that because

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Speaker 1: it's it's the energy, it's the you can't really explain

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Speaker 1: the feeling. I have to live it, and they want

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Speaker 1: that experience for themselves. So I'm so excited about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for myself. I was the only the first person of

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Speaker 1: I didn't have a choice. I had to go to HBCU.

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Speaker 1: My parents was like, you don't have a choice. And

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Speaker 1: the reason I went to Hampton is because I watched

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Speaker 1: The Different World and HIMAN is based off Hampton, and

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Speaker 1: to go to Hampton University. Now we have Chris Paul here,

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Speaker 1: and Chris Paul has the Family Foundation, which UH really

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Speaker 1: you watch his games, he always reps HBCUs, different HBCUs,

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Speaker 1: different games, and he pushes it to the to the

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Speaker 1: next level. So let's let's ask you a question, Chris Paul.

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Speaker 1: Since you didn't go to an HBCU, why do you

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Speaker 1: of all, thank you all for having me, and I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you man, Uh big fan and NBA didn't even

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Speaker 1: I'm actually a student right now at Winston Salem State, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I went two years and wait for est and

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Speaker 1: So uh, you know they say when you know better,

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Speaker 1: So a lot of people don't know why exist in

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Speaker 1: about business, entertainment and all of this, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: the dope class, but they don't offer that. HBCUs actually

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Speaker 1: and now we have that same class at North Carolina

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Speaker 1: fam you and it's about exposure. I was gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you that, you know, um, the one thing I would

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Speaker 1: don't have the funding right And just like my daughter,

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Speaker 1: she goes to n y U and and not because

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Speaker 1: she wanted to, but because she wanted to major real estate,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of the HBCUs didn't have that as

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Speaker 1: a major where they teach you. How So, what do

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Speaker 1: catch up with some of those other universities that you name,

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Speaker 1: What what do you? What do you? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: And one of the things I always say is you

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Speaker 1: but you need real dollars and cents. But I think

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Speaker 1: also we gotta keep coming together and make sure everybody

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Speaker 1: knows who went where. You know what I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of times I know, for me in

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Speaker 1: the sports department, h b c US didn't recruit me,

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Speaker 1: not saying I ought to went there. But now wherever

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Speaker 1: the more people that know that you can go to

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Speaker 1: these HBCUs and be unbelievably successful. I did an interview

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Speaker 1: history behind these HBCUs and really champion them and get

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Speaker 1: the funding because you need money. You need money to

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Speaker 1: do all these different things. You need the resources. A

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Speaker 1: these schools these courses. Okay, but why do you think

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Speaker 1: that the great kids coming out of high school playing basketball,

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Speaker 1: tell you this. So when I came out, right, I

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Speaker 1: came out of high school two thousand three, that wasn't

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Speaker 1: the pathway, right, It just wasn't you know, it was

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Speaker 1: the blue bloods. You're gonna go to Duke, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: all this stuff, I'm always talking to kids about. Look,

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Speaker 1: to North Carolina Central and played for Lavelle Moten. Imagine

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Speaker 1: that esp Ain't got to come. They got to come.

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Speaker 1: So the education of it, and it's it's gradually changing,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's not something that's gonna

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Speaker 1: Dunk and then the All Star This year, you guys

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Speaker 1: made you guys decide to do that? I mean they

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Speaker 1: thought it was dope. So what made you guys decide

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Speaker 1: our power and our influence, right, just telling the league

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Speaker 1: seventy seventy African American. Maybe more so understanding that these kids,

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Speaker 1: But but the US need funding for all the department.

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Speaker 1: school um, but there needs to be like a conservative

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Speaker 1: effort two make black colleges as attractive to your number one,

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Speaker 1: daughter who who wants to estate. We need to make

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Speaker 1: sure that we are attractive to all of our children

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Speaker 1: in every department and in every way. Yeah, no, I agree,

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Speaker 1: And I think we just need to highlight it more. Uh.

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Speaker 1: highlight you know, Anthony Anderson, and we highlights Roger Henson

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Speaker 1: We gotta highlight those players that went to an HBCU,

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Speaker 1: that made it to the league, that made it to

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Speaker 1: to be on television, you know what I mean, And

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Speaker 1: what they see on television is not necessarily HBCU. So,

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Speaker 1: like Chris said, once we start going to those schools,

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Speaker 1: they have to highlight and they have no choice. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're in the n b A and you're successful,

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Speaker 1: you're an all star, what makes what gives you the

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Speaker 1: drive to continue on pushing? Because at one time, you know,

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