Speaker 1: I'm Thomas White.
Speaker 2: You're listening to Fish on First on Foul Territory Network.
Speaker 3: Fish Unfiltered, Episode one fourteen here on the Fish on
Speaker 3: First podcast presented by jet Ski Rentals of South Florida,
Speaker 3: part of the Foul Territory Network. I'm Eli Susman, the
Speaker 3: founder of fof along with Kevin Burrall here on Unfiltered
Speaker 3: Weekend's episode of the show, the second Unfiltered of the week.
Speaker 3: If you've already missed it, I've been living under a rock.
Speaker 3: We had the biggest guest possible, Bruce Sherman, principal owner
Speaker 3: of the Marlins, on the pod, So i'pe you listen
Speaker 3: to that if you haven't already coming out of the
Speaker 3: All Star break, and then since then the Marlins have
Speaker 3: lost the game. By the time you listen to this show,
Speaker 3: they may have lost another game, they may have won,
Speaker 3: but we're kind of getting extremely close to deadline mode
Speaker 3: here on the show here across Fish on First, and
Speaker 3: as kind of a tie into that in terms of
Speaker 3: what the Marls maybe looking for from outside the organization,
Speaker 3: I wanted to do this special show just to really
Speaker 3: take a close look at who they have inside the organization.
Speaker 3: Guys that aren't on the big league team right now,
Speaker 3: but many that we've seen on the big league team
Speaker 3: at various times this year or the year before, and
Speaker 3: other guys that are absolutely pounding on the door with
Speaker 3: Triple A Jacksonville.
Speaker 4: So this is the idea I came up.
Speaker 3: With with Kevin, that we just want to get caught up
Speaker 3: on guys that maybe we don't mention enough on Unfiltered
Speaker 3: or even enough on streams. We've been covering them on
Speaker 3: our prospects reports in other ways, but frankly, some of
Speaker 3: these guys have kind of fallen through the cracks and
Speaker 3: been forgotten about, and I felt it was a good
Speaker 3: idea to just check in on all these various players
Speaker 3: and how they can help over the course of the season.
Speaker 3: So yeah, without further ado, we're going to dive right
Speaker 3: into it. This in two parts, first looking at the
Speaker 3: hitters and then the position player side. So flashing on
Speaker 3: the screen for those of you watching on YouTube, Kevin,
Speaker 3: you can open up where you want to when it
Speaker 3: comes to the hitters that are down in Jacksonville right now.
Speaker 3: Who jumps out in terms of a guy that you
Speaker 3: want to see at the big league level, Who deserves
Speaker 3: a shot that's now currently in Miami, but could be
Speaker 3: very soon and could actually make a difference in terms
Speaker 3: of what the Marlins are trying to do this year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to go all the way at the bottom.
Speaker 5: When the outfielders. Cam Canerella just got promoted to Jacksonville,
Speaker 5: And it was interesting, right because he only plays thirty
Speaker 5: four games in Pensacola. Started the year in Hia, got
Speaker 5: hurt in Hia, came back, and ever since then he's
Speaker 5: been tearing it up and really felt like he didn't
Speaker 5: need the Double A level all too much. He absolutely
Speaker 5: raked there and now he's in Triple He only played
Speaker 5: one game so far as we're recording. They didn't do
Speaker 5: anything in that game. I'll put some contact, but nothing
Speaker 5: else outside of that. I really think the Marls make
Speaker 5: this move assuming trying to see if they could get
Speaker 5: anything else out of Canerella in Triple A and hopes
Speaker 5: that he could help this team out at the major
Speaker 5: league level late into the season for one final playoff
Speaker 5: push as an internal add through the death line. As
Speaker 5: we like to say, he's having an awesome year, not
Speaker 5: striking out a lot. I think the concern still remains
Speaker 5: on the defensive side of things just isn't exactly what
Speaker 5: you assume. I know, he spoke to Isaac and Carver about,
Speaker 5: you know, the possibility of him, you know, finally having
Speaker 5: his arm b one hundred percent, which was something that
Speaker 5: I think, I think is really important. But with the
Speaker 5: struggles of Marci at the major league level, Canerella kind
Speaker 5: of continuing to maybe push him a little more and
Speaker 5: that gap that once was starting to really shorten and
Speaker 5: becomes smaller. And you know, he's only striking out thirteen
Speaker 5: percent of the time this season, which is insane. He's
Speaker 5: also walking thirteen percent of the time, which is also
Speaker 5: really impressive. The power, I think is the biggest surprise
Speaker 5: out of everything. Not a guy that was known for
Speaker 5: his power, but we're starting to see that a lot
Speaker 5: more now. Twelve home runs this season. I think the
Speaker 5: only downside is the stolen bases. He only has ten
Speaker 5: of them this year. He's a guy who does have speed,
Speaker 5: like he's a fast dude with a lot of speed.
Speaker 5: I wish we could see a little bit more of that,
Speaker 5: especially on the base paths, but Canerella is certainly a
Speaker 5: guy that stands out, at least amongst the guys that
Speaker 5: you know, half prospect pedigree and really have a shot
Speaker 5: at coming up this year.
Speaker 4: As you mentioned, he's the brand newest edition there.
Speaker 3: He's played one game at the rivallet level so far,
Speaker 3: something I did not realize. He is the first position
Speaker 3: player in his draft class from the twenty twenty five
Speaker 3: class to actually legit and make it to Triple A
Speaker 3: via promotion, like I had assumed. In some years we
Speaker 3: see guys that are really fast tracked across the league
Speaker 3: and are writing the majors within a year, but that
Speaker 3: hasn't really happened with that draft class. He shines out
Speaker 3: like he is not just in the Marlins organ but
Speaker 3: across the baseball He is one of the best players
Speaker 3: to come out of that twenty five class so far.
Speaker 3: Even by missing time due to injury earlier this year,
Speaker 3: he's been so amazing when he's been healthy. With all
Speaker 3: these guys, it ties in directly to whose not alternatives
Speaker 3: are at the big league level, and with him, him
Speaker 3: and Marcy.
Speaker 4: Are like tied up the hip here.
Speaker 3: They're both left handed hitting outfield who can play a
Speaker 3: lot of center field, and who have the ability to
Speaker 3: both hit for some power and run the bases. Statistically
Speaker 3: Marcy last year. Really the main difference was that he
Speaker 3: was just stealing a lot more bases, but he was
Speaker 3: getting a lot fewer hits as well. Like what Canarella
Speaker 3: is doing opsing over a thousand is just completely unheard of,
Speaker 3: considering that this is his first time at these levels.
Speaker 3: The way that he's dominating is off the charts, and
Speaker 3: that's kind of why he's even worth mentioning when ordinarily
Speaker 3: I would just flatly turn it down, say this guy
Speaker 3: is going to wait until twenty twenty seven, but the
Speaker 3: results have been so amazing. You mentioned the power on
Speaker 3: how many of those home runs go to the opposite
Speaker 3: field too. That's what just really stood out is that
Speaker 3: a guy that we assumed his profile was going to
Speaker 3: be poking balls to the opposite field for singles, some
Speaker 3: of those have gone over the fence for homers in
Speaker 3: a way that I couldn't have anticipated. They're going to
Speaker 3: give him some time at Jacksonville, Like this isn't one
Speaker 3: that you could really make the immedia case. I'll have
Speaker 3: to prove himself a little bit. It's just that I
Speaker 3: think as soon as September first is when this becomes
Speaker 3: a real conversation especially if Marcy is struggling. I don't
Speaker 3: think they're going to send down Marcy. I think what
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a question of whether they simply bench
Speaker 3: him once rosters expand at the end of the year
Speaker 3: if he doesn't eventually turn it around. That has been
Speaker 3: kind of the biggest negative surprise on the offense designed
Speaker 3: for the Marlins this year is now Marcy has been
Speaker 3: such a liability after being their best hurt late last season.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they are kind of tied together there as
Speaker 3: they once again, I'm going to pull up all the
Speaker 3: hitters that we have down there in Jacksonville to look
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Speaker 3: Another one that just came back from injury was Maximo Costa,
Speaker 3: something that I have on my radar just because of
Speaker 3: the alternatives here. One of the reasons why this episode
Speaker 3: idea came to me is just because the models are
Speaker 3: in a position where they're still so weak on these
Speaker 3: right handed hitting bench beats right now. On their active roster.
Speaker 3: You have Leyo Jimenez, you have a Reese Hines, you
Speaker 3: have Brian Navareto, guys that like are all right handed hitting,
Speaker 3: and I guess they're meant to like even they're meant
Speaker 3: to compliment all the lefties on this roster, but they
Speaker 3: just can't hit.
Speaker 4: None of them can hit at all.
Speaker 3: And yet at the minor league level, you have now
Speaker 3: a Costa back from an injury, guys that have been healthy,
Speaker 3: and we're demoted from the big league team Augustine Ramirez
Speaker 3: and Connor norby your top of mind too, That's not
Speaker 3: the reason why I want to do this episode, because
Speaker 3: I don't want to forget about those guys who were
Speaker 3: conceivably gonna be big parts of this team entering this year.
Speaker 3: I mentioned this on the rounding table that we did, Kevin,
Speaker 3: so I wanted to just for you to expand on
Speaker 3: that a little bit between Gus and Norby, guys that
Speaker 3: we've seen can be really productive in stretches, really productive
Speaker 3: big league hitters that are right handed hitters. Which of
Speaker 3: them do you think makes more sense for this roster
Speaker 3: at some point down the stretch. Which one of them
Speaker 3: do you think could get closer to saving their season
Speaker 3: that to this point has gone pretty poorly.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of it depends on what the
Speaker 5: Marlins do at the major league level with the trade deadline.
Speaker 5: I know a lot of reports are going out there
Speaker 5: saying that the Marlins may move big league pieces for
Speaker 5: big league pieces, and that seems to be the notion
Speaker 5: for a lot of teams, not just the Marlins, but
Speaker 5: you could see a world where they move. I saw
Speaker 5: Ken mention this name, so I'll only mention it because
Speaker 5: he did. Liam Hicks, like I would be stunted they
Speaker 5: move them. But you know they have catched I guess,
Speaker 5: quote unquote catching that they believe Augustin is still a
Speaker 5: which I don't think he is. I know Clayton told
Speaker 5: us on the podcast a couple of weeks ago that
Speaker 5: they may try him at first base, and that continues
Speaker 5: to be the case and something that they may be
Speaker 5: still pushing for.
Speaker 1: I would personally try it. Augustine.
Speaker 5: The bad is legit. I think he has a lot
Speaker 5: of power. He goes the opposite field, he uses the
Speaker 5: whole field. He could still help you out of the
Speaker 5: base running department too, just a little bit. He's the
Speaker 5: guy who really stands out still with the bat. I
Speaker 5: know the defense isn't there, and he gets a lot
Speaker 5: of slack for that, and that's a big reason why
Speaker 5: he has struggled offensively because of the defense, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: So if you just take the defensive aspect out of
Speaker 5: it completely, I think Augustin could really help this team
Speaker 5: against left handed pitching too. And I know the consensus
Speaker 5: would be like, hey, he could still catch every couple
Speaker 5: of weeks against one of there's a lefty on the
Speaker 5: mountin he would played, but most of the time would
Speaker 5: have to be their DH or first base. And that's
Speaker 5: the big thing there too with Norby.
Speaker 1: Norby, I really don't.
Speaker 5: I think the power just doesn't there with him anymore
Speaker 5: like it once used to be. It's a lot of
Speaker 5: warning track does at the warning track just still striking
Speaker 5: out now. First base isn't an issue, and he's very
Speaker 5: I don't think he's played first base since he's gone
Speaker 5: to Jacksonville maybe a couple times. It's been a lot
Speaker 5: of third, It's been a lot of the corner outfield spots.
Speaker 5: So they're trying him out to see what sticks, but
Speaker 5: to see maybe if the bat could take him a
Speaker 5: next step. But right now, if if I had to
Speaker 5: call someone up between one of the two, it would
Speaker 5: definitely be gus, just to see if you could get
Speaker 5: something out of the bat and help you out offensively,
Speaker 5: because because as you said, he like a team with
Speaker 5: Brian Avarett and Laojimenez on your bench certainly is not
Speaker 5: a playoff caliber team, at least sustainably. I think you
Speaker 5: need to obviously they're gonna make moves, but you know,
Speaker 5: Gus is right there. I even think, like, I know
Speaker 5: he's not a right handed hitter, but Graham Polys look
Speaker 5: really good in triple A. And I know we do
Speaker 5: this same song and dance for the last two years
Speaker 5: where he comes up finally he's good and you know
Speaker 5: after the second stint, but he looked good in the
Speaker 5: limited sample size he did come back from that Saint
Speaker 5: Louis game. It was very little, but it was very
Speaker 5: good for the limited aspect of it. And I wouldn't
Speaker 5: have sett him back down. I know they did, but
Speaker 5: I would like to see another shot at Graham Polly
Speaker 5: up in the make big league level. He has the
Speaker 5: best defensive third basement amongst the three, and I think
Speaker 5: like has the highest floor amongst Lao, at least between
Speaker 5: him and Lao. Like you know, san Ojas floor is
Speaker 5: already quite high just because he could play different positions.
Speaker 5: But I think offensively, Pauli has the better, better outlook
Speaker 5: in terms of like, hey, if he puts it all together,
Speaker 5: he could be He has the power, he could hit
Speaker 5: to all fields. Great defensive third baseman, Like that's a
Speaker 5: solid player at the end of the day that if
Speaker 5: he's giving you between the ninety to ninety five WRC plus,
Speaker 5: you're happy with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which just one other hitter. I wanted to touch
Speaker 3: on on this segment. If people were giving I don't know,
Speaker 3: ten guesses to assume who the best offensive performer has
Speaker 3: been for Jacksonville the last couple of months, I think
Speaker 3: they would use up all their guesses and still not
Speaker 3: land on Gage Miller. His numbers are still incredible. We
Speaker 3: had a discussion on where to put him on the
Speaker 3: FLFT Top thirty when we reranked last month, and I
Speaker 3: kind of convinced you guys that know, this guy's kind
Speaker 3: of a fluke. He's only playing part time when he
Speaker 3: is playing with Jacksonville this year, Gage Miller, and he's
Speaker 3: an infielder. If anybody that's unaware, they would not recognize
Speaker 3: his face.
Speaker 4: I don't think.
Speaker 3: But a twenty twenty four draft pick plays several infield spots.
Speaker 3: He's slashing three point fifty one, four sixty seven, six
Speaker 3: point twenty two. That's in twenty three games with Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: It's an ops near eleven hundred five homers in that time,
Speaker 3: nearly as many walks as strikeouts. I know you took
Speaker 3: notice of him when he's put up numbers. He's still
Speaker 3: putting up numbers even if he's a has been playing
Speaker 3: a ton, So you know, where are you on him
Speaker 3: in terms of is he gonna have any role with
Speaker 3: this team? Given that in his limited time he's actually
Speaker 3: been really productive.
Speaker 5: I think the one thing you noted to us when
Speaker 5: we were talking about the top thirty was he's not
Speaker 5: playing every day, and even then, you know, if he
Speaker 5: was playing just a little bit more, maybe they would
Speaker 5: be of consideration. I think he's been great. He's having
Speaker 5: a really good year. He was great in Pensacola, gets
Speaker 5: the promotion, he's actually been even better in Jacksonville. He's
Speaker 5: only played twenty three games, but he's not striking out all.
Speaker 5: He's walking more than he's striking out as well. And
Speaker 5: he's also not playing third base full time. He's playing
Speaker 5: a lot of second as well. Like he's really been
Speaker 5: splitting time between those two spots. I personally, of course,
Speaker 5: like if you get an opportunity to call up a
Speaker 5: better bat than what the Marnins currently have at third base,
Speaker 5: of course you try to take that risk.
Speaker 1: Will they do it? I think it's unlikely.
Speaker 5: You would have to clear out a forty man spot
Speaker 5: and it would just be a whole thing. And I
Speaker 5: don't know if they think this guy's ready. I think
Speaker 5: what I think is more realistic is that Gage Miller
Speaker 5: is an NRI next year and he tries to compete
Speaker 5: for the third base job unless they make a move
Speaker 5: this trade deadline with for a guy who has multiple
Speaker 5: years of control, which I doubt. I think they'll go
Speaker 5: for a rental or a guy who has an option
Speaker 5: for next season. So yeah, that's where I kind of
Speaker 5: stand with Gage Miller. One other guy wanted to mention
Speaker 5: in Jacksonville who has quietly had a good year, not
Speaker 5: talked about often, is Andrew Pinar.
Speaker 1: He's been pretty good.
Speaker 5: He's guy who could play all three outfield spots, plays
Speaker 5: a good primarily center. He's probably gonna move over to
Speaker 5: the corners now because camp Knerella now up there. But
Speaker 5: Pintar is having a good year. Eight homers, twenty one
Speaker 5: stolen bases, he's walking eleven percent of the time, one
Speaker 5: of five WRC plus. Maybe not a guy he'll call up,
Speaker 5: but maybe a guy who could you know, be of
Speaker 5: interest to other teams at the trade deadline if they
Speaker 5: think this is a player that could potentially get a
Speaker 5: better opportunity elsewhere. The Martins had an opportunity to forty
Speaker 5: man him last season to protect him from the Rule five.
Speaker 5: They decided not to do that. They could do it
Speaker 5: again this offseason. I think there's a better chance he
Speaker 5: goes this time around than last year if he goes
Speaker 5: on protected. Obviously that's all on hold because of the
Speaker 5: pending lockout, but he's a guy who's really stood out
Speaker 5: to me. Him and Engage Miller are like two guys
Speaker 5: in a very interesting spot because yes, they are probably
Speaker 5: worthy of a call up, but knowing the Marlins, they
Speaker 5: probably won't do it. And I think, honestly, if you
Speaker 5: could cash in on those two guys for players at
Speaker 5: the deadline, you go ahead and do it somehow.
Speaker 3: We have brought up Kemp Alderman, so that's a very
Speaker 3: li that I'll mentioned here because he was top of
Speaker 3: mind entering this season after being their Minor League Player
Speaker 3: of the Year last year, and that was when he
Speaker 3: was only an outfielder. He's added first base verstsatility during
Speaker 3: the course of the season. He's kind of hit exactly
Speaker 3: as advertised this year he's right around three hundred with
Speaker 3: a nine hundred ops and homering at a rate that's
Speaker 3: like a thirty home run pace if he was fully healthy.
Speaker 3: He missed a little bit of time to do to an
Speaker 3: elbow injury, but now he's back and now he's still hitting.
Speaker 3: The strikeouts are high, so that's kind of the really
Speaker 3: main knock on him, but they've been steadily coming down
Speaker 3: from where they were at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 3: I think above all the guys we mentioned, I think
Speaker 3: Kemp is actually the one that I'm most excited to see,
Speaker 3: just because his power is on another level. His raw power,
Speaker 3: his ability to go to the other way as well
Speaker 3: is really unmatched among anybody else that's in Jacksonville right now.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit better than Gus, it's a little
Speaker 3: bit better than Davis and de los Santos, and just
Speaker 3: as a complete hitter, he's awesome. So there's not an
Speaker 3: obvious bit just because they've kind of figured out first
Speaker 3: base as the season that's gone on between Hicks and
Speaker 3: Stours for the most part, like there's not every day
Speaker 3: playing time for camp where a lot of these other
Speaker 3: guys'd be. You could slide them into a part time role.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing with Kent is that he's so
Speaker 3: good of a prospect that you want to have a
Speaker 3: more natural spot for them to play every day when
Speaker 3: he actually comes up. So yeah, nothing's imminent with him,
Speaker 3: but I don't want him to go under the radar.
Speaker 4: That's a really good.
Speaker 5: Player, definitely, yeah, And I think that's a guy who
Speaker 5: the Marls could potentially move into trade as well. From
Speaker 5: my understanding, it's just like not that they aren't high
Speaker 5: on him. I think they do like the player, and
Speaker 5: obviously he was the Marlins minor league player that year
Speaker 5: last season, but I think there is definitely concern with
Speaker 5: the strikeouts they have gone up. It's seven percent higher
Speaker 5: than it was last season, and just I don't know,
Speaker 5: I'm not totally convinced like he's a good player, Like
Speaker 5: I would like to see him up here. He would
Speaker 5: definitely provide the Margins with some help.
Speaker 1: But you know, they put him at first base to
Speaker 1: add some versatility.
Speaker 5: He's I believe he's still maybe playing some outfield and
Speaker 5: if you can move him for in cash at the deadline,
Speaker 5: you do it.
Speaker 1: I think he's one of those guys that you could.
Speaker 5: Maybe sell high on, as they say, end up in
Speaker 5: the prospect world and that goes for him. And we'll
Speaker 5: talk about a picture that I think could definitely be
Speaker 5: fall under that same boat soon.
Speaker 3: M Let's take a brief break right now and come
Speaker 3: back to discuss some call up candidates on the pitching
Speaker 3: side for the Marlins down the stretch.
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Speaker 3: And here they are so brief climpse of those of
Speaker 3: you watching for a look at the active pitchers on
Speaker 3: Jacksonville's roster. Just this will be a quicker segment because
Speaker 3: more of the talent has been concentrated on the position
Speaker 3: player side for Jacksonville this year, at least in terms
Speaker 3: of guys that are still down in Jacksonville. The Marvels
Speaker 3: have dipped deeper, i would say, into their prospect depth
Speaker 3: on the pitching side throughout the year, especially when it
Speaker 3: comes to the bullpen. They've cycled through quite a few
Speaker 3: different relievers over the course of this season, and they
Speaker 3: have several right now who are doing well in Jacksonville
Speaker 3: that are now at the big league level. There's several
Speaker 3: guys who are doing great in Jacksonville and now are
Speaker 3: hurt for the big league team, like josh Acnis, William Kempner,
Speaker 3: Robbie Snelling kind of being the main one that was
Speaker 3: the guy we were very excited about.
Speaker 4: Thomas White.
Speaker 3: Thomas White is currently hurt and we viewed as kind
Speaker 3: of unlikely to return this year. So to be blunt,
Speaker 3: the highest upside players on the pitching side are either
Speaker 3: unavailable or guys that we would fully expect to be
Speaker 3: on the active roster as soon as they're healthy again.
Speaker 3: Start off wide open for you, Kevin, any particular pitcher
Speaker 3: on you that jumps out to you that you think
Speaker 3: is just about big league ready.
Speaker 5: I mean Braxton Garrett, right, I mean more than big
Speaker 5: league ready. Unfortunate situation for him where he comes up
Speaker 5: and struggles in those two starts, and I would have
Speaker 5: given him a little bit of a longer leash personally,
Speaker 5: but I understand where the team was at the time,
Speaker 5: and they felt like they needed to find guys that
Speaker 5: could help them right away, and Braxton unfortunately just wasn't
Speaker 5: and goes back to Triple A and you're striking out
Speaker 5: more guys, just walking less guys, and I don't know,
Speaker 5: they haven't given him an opportunity. I've had opportunities to
Speaker 5: call him up since I'm sure, but he's in a
Speaker 5: weird spot. I honestly think Braxton wont up getting traded
Speaker 5: this deadline if you look, if you know, that kind
Speaker 5: of falls into the major league for major leaguer because
Speaker 5: Backxon Garrett, he's a Triple A, but he's a major
Speaker 5: leaguer in my eyes, I think he It wasn't that
Speaker 5: long ago that Brax was throwing a career high in
Speaker 5: the Nings, pitched and starting Game two of a wild
Speaker 5: Card series. For the mind of Marlins like this is
Speaker 5: this is a good pitcher still, I think, and I
Speaker 5: think teams will hopefully buy low, will assume the by
Speaker 5: low part of it on him, or demons maybe attach
Speaker 5: a prospect like a Kemp for you know, a better package.
Speaker 5: But Braxon definitely has showed that he's more than big
Speaker 5: league ready and should be back. Unfortunately, just I don't
Speaker 5: think that will be in a Marlins uniform. I think
Speaker 5: that'll be in another uniform. Carson Olbrandt has struggled since
Speaker 5: coming up the Triple A, primarily with the walks. He's
Speaker 5: walked three or more guys in each start he's made
Speaker 5: since making the jump from double to triple A and
Speaker 5: I'll let you talk about the reliever. I know he
Speaker 5: want to talk about, so I'll let you divulge on
Speaker 5: mister Jack Ralston. But those are the two that definitely
Speaker 5: stand out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, before we get to that, I think it is
Speaker 3: worth going deeper on Braxton. I don't totally agree with
Speaker 3: you. You may be proven right, but frankly, I'm confused about
Speaker 3: how they've handled Bracs. Once he made the decision to
Speaker 3: send him back down after only two starts, that was something.
Speaker 3: But since then he's kind of ironed out the walk
Speaker 3: issues and he's continued to put up great results For
Speaker 3: anybody that's not aware, he's got overall this year in
Speaker 3: Jacksonville a one point five to four er for the
Speaker 3: entire season and thirteen starts down there. He's just been unhittable.
Speaker 3: That's been the main aspect of it. And there's some
Speaker 3: luck involved with that. You know, we're not slaves to
Speaker 3: Era and more. He could dive deeper. You could see
Speaker 3: his FIP is in what the mid threes. He's been human,
Speaker 3: but he's been very good. He's been about as good
Speaker 3: as you could realistically be with his ability. And you
Speaker 3: mentioned him as like a trade candidate. It's just that
Speaker 3: I've seen this before, where if guys aren't pitching and
Speaker 3: performing at the big league level this year, there's only
Speaker 3: so much value they can create for themselves. As he's
Speaker 3: about to turn twenty nine years old, there's really no
Speaker 3: number he could put up in triple that would give
Speaker 3: him significant trade value. At this point, you got to
Speaker 3: show it a little. At the big league level, We're
Speaker 3: at a time where the Marlins still have vulnerabilities in
Speaker 3: their rotation. I mean the main one is that Tyler
Speaker 3: Phillips it's been more bad than good as a starter
Speaker 3: and a guy that we know is so good as
Speaker 3: a reliever. I was confused about why they didn't call
Speaker 3: out Braxton earlier these last few weeks, maybe right before
Speaker 3: Junk got back from his injury, or maybe gone to
Speaker 3: him as a rotation option, even right around the same
Speaker 3: time as Phillips, because he's been performing so well. And
Speaker 3: there's just again, there's so limited information. There's only so
Speaker 3: much you can learn about a guy just from repeating
Speaker 3: triple a like seven years after he was actually a prospect,
Speaker 3: and they needed the endings at the big league level.
Speaker 3: And what it's confusing is because they won so many
Speaker 3: games they played. They've played great, pitched great with some
Speaker 3: of those bullpen games with a lot of Ryan Gusto starting,
Speaker 3: But there's no reason why Gusto.
Speaker 4: Should have been getting these big league gettings over Brax.
Speaker 3: I thought it was even a time where they could
Speaker 3: explored what he would look like as a reliever as
Speaker 3: a team that doesn't have very much lefty relief pitching
Speaker 3: right now, especially with John King temporarily out that I
Speaker 3: thought it was a missed opportunity to see what they
Speaker 3: have because I just don't think there's going to be
Speaker 3: any value at all to trading him.
Speaker 4: Forget that.
Speaker 3: It also, by the way, he's earning about twice the
Speaker 3: major league minimum because he's in his arbitration years, so
Speaker 3: there's a little financial component to it too. And at
Speaker 3: this point, I think they're kind of out of time,
Speaker 3: like there's only so much he can show you in
Speaker 3: three starts. Even if he's called up right now to
Speaker 3: take the Phillips spot in the rotation and Phillips goes
Speaker 3: to then there's not enough time to really prove much
Speaker 3: of anything down there. So I think they really missed
Speaker 3: the boat on that.
Speaker 4: All does is to.
Speaker 3: Me The easiest explanation is that they just don't believe
Speaker 3: in him at all, Like, no matter what numbers he's
Speaker 3: putting up, they just don't think a guy that's throwing
Speaker 3: ninety one miles per hour that has occasionally had control
Speaker 3: issues earlier this year is going to help them. And
Speaker 3: that's a bummer, just because of how much time he
Speaker 3: missed and because of, as you reverence, how good he
Speaker 3: legitimately was a few years ago in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 5: So well, that's why I could see them just shrip
Speaker 5: them off or whatever it may be, right right, so
Speaker 5: you know, and who knows. Maybe Braxton has told them Wan,
Speaker 5: I'll tell you I want to get traded, like I'm
Speaker 5: broading away here in Jacksonville, where when I'm fully healthy,
Speaker 5: I can be up at the major league level helping
Speaker 5: a lot of teams.
Speaker 1: I do need starting pitching their teams.
Speaker 5: I need starting pitching right now, and Braxton could be
Speaker 5: of service.
Speaker 1: So who knows. I obviously we don't know any of that.
Speaker 5: That's way private stuff that I'm sure we can't even
Speaker 5: get a hold of unless it's from an agent. But
Speaker 5: I'm sure braxis told people like, hey, I'd rather get
Speaker 5: traded at this point if I'm just gonna be in
Speaker 5: Triple A, and who knows, maybe the Mars try to
Speaker 5: attach a prospect to get some sort of major league
Speaker 5: piece back in return, like a Kemp, like a Carson Millbrandt,
Speaker 5: who I'm sure we'll talk about. Like if you only
Speaker 5: trade Brax, I do agree you're not going to get
Speaker 5: a lot in return, But who knows, maybe the marwins.
Speaker 5: That's the little by self aspect of it, where they
Speaker 5: will take some prospects in exchange for Bracs.
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Speaker 3: My very quick tick on Carson is that next year
Speaker 3: for him, he has improved his prospect stock. He's a
Speaker 3: better version of the bitch I thought he was entering
Speaker 3: this year, But I do think that a lot of
Speaker 3: these prospect evaluators have overreacted to how good he was
Speaker 3: in Double A. The control issues are still there, and
Speaker 3: he's twenty two years old. Like not every needs to
Speaker 3: be called up and put into a major league rotation.
Speaker 3: Of twenty two, this has been step forward for him.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's quite ready. We'll see if things may.
Speaker 3: He has an amazing next month and a half and
Speaker 3: I changed my mind on that, but in my opinion,
Speaker 3: he just needs a little bit more time to properly
Speaker 3: fully finalize his development.
Speaker 4: There. As you referenced, earlier.
Speaker 3: There one reliever I did want to get into that,
Speaker 3: one of the few that hasn't gotten a shot yet.
Speaker 3: All these guys going up and down between Jacksonville and
Speaker 3: the majors, and yet Jack Ralston has still spent the
Speaker 3: entire year down there and he's been killing it. Like statistically,
Speaker 3: a similar story to Brax, except even more amazing and
Speaker 3: eye popping numbers. There a one to seven ERA in
Speaker 3: fifty and two thirds innings this year, almost unhittable, twenty
Speaker 3: four hits allowed in those fifteen to two thirds innings.
Speaker 3: He has never allowed more than one earned run in
Speaker 3: a single outing strike a ton of strikeouts, striking out
Speaker 3: almost a third of the batters he's facing, So that's great.
Speaker 3: And the walks has been the big difference, like last
Speaker 3: as recently as last year. The reason why this guy
Speaker 3: was a minor league free agent signing in twenty eight
Speaker 3: years old and hasn't mentioned the Major yet is because
Speaker 3: he's had a lot of walk issues in the past,
Speaker 3: and this year he's gone that number down pretty close
Speaker 3: to league average. In fact, I think it is a
Speaker 3: little bit better than the triple A average. What stands
Speaker 3: out is his splitter is just an amazing pitch. Almost
Speaker 3: all of his strikeouts, about three quarters of them come
Speaker 3: on the splitter. That's amazing against both righty's and lefties.
Speaker 3: That's a pitch where only a couple guys on this
Speaker 3: Marlins rotation, Marl's pitching staff as a whole have a splitter.
Speaker 3: That's Lake Baker, that's Tyler Phillips. But Ralston throws it
Speaker 3: a whole lot more, and he throws it from this
Speaker 3: really unconventional over the top arm angle that I think
Speaker 3: when you talk about what makes it a good bullpen,
Speaker 3: it's guy's giving different looks so that hitters are kind
Speaker 3: of thrown off guard when they see an arm that's
Speaker 3: different than the one that came before it, and Ralston
Speaker 3: checks that box so that I don't know what they're
Speaker 3: waiting for. I know he needs a forty man spot,
Speaker 3: but there it's easy to open a forty man spot.
Speaker 3: Frankly quite right now, like they're on, whether it's on
Speaker 3: the position player side or even on the pitching side.
Speaker 3: There's a couple potential injured players that are candidates to
Speaker 3: move to the sixty day il should open the spot.
Speaker 3: I think he is much He's a good upside really
Speaker 3: good upside for a guy that, despite his age and
Speaker 3: his lack of major league experience, that something has clicked
Speaker 3: to this year. I think it'd be a shame if
Speaker 3: they wasted that opportunity to uh to not use him.
Speaker 3: So I'm hoping to see Ralston before the end of
Speaker 3: the year. I'll pull up this list again just so
Speaker 3: we touch on anybody that we haven't already. Yeah, Josh White,
Speaker 3: this guy we were really high on entering this year,
Speaker 3: myself especially. I was at his major league debut against
Speaker 3: the Mets a couple of months ago, and it was
Speaker 3: a nightmare. He got his first two guys out and
Speaker 3: then he ended up allowing five total runs without getting
Speaker 3: out of the ending itself, got de moted. Haven't seen
Speaker 3: him since. He's been very good, although not as dominant
Speaker 3: as last year. I still believe in him quite a
Speaker 3: bit though. I think that's a guy that we could
Speaker 3: be a strikeout machine once he gets it all together.
Speaker 3: Just a question about whether he's ready right now or
Speaker 3: it takes another year. I guess the last guy we
Speaker 3: could get to Kevin is Brandon White, the a different White,
Speaker 3: the one that's actually healthy, the guy that's six foot
Speaker 3: eight He's the tallest pitcher in the upper miners for
Speaker 3: the Marlins, and the numbers at Jacksonville have been kind
Speaker 3: of mixed. Where he's had some amazing outings, he's had
Speaker 3: the terrible ones. You average it all together and it's
Speaker 3: an ugly five and a half era, but the peripherals
Speaker 3: look better than that. The home runs have been an issue,
Speaker 3: but he's still striking out a ton of guys. He
Speaker 3: pitched out of the bullpen in his most recently and
Speaker 3: coming out of the ulcer break and was touching ninety
Speaker 3: nine miles per hour.
Speaker 4: This is the guy we forgot about.
Speaker 3: Like White has been in the organization since twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: I want to say, and yet he was, you know,
Speaker 3: nowhere on our minds entering the season. But overall, like
Speaker 3: his stuff has ticked up. And I mentioned the size
Speaker 3: as an interesting component. You know, where are you on
Speaker 3: on Brandon White? A guy that's had I think all
Speaker 3: things considered a breakout year. And you know how Mike
Speaker 3: the Marlins used him, if.
Speaker 5: At all down this ridge, Yeah, I mean it was
Speaker 5: good enough to where we put him on the top thirty, right,
Speaker 5: so definitely stands for something. The fastball belows, you knowed,
Speaker 5: it certainly improved. I think the thing that's really hurting him,
Speaker 5: at least when you look at the surface numbers are
Speaker 5: those first couple starts in Jacksonville where he allowed ten
Speaker 5: on six runs, five runs and three straight. But ever
Speaker 5: since that, I mean it's zero runs, one run, then
Speaker 5: two to two and then zero. And in that he
Speaker 5: struck out eleven and in one game he struck out seven.
Speaker 5: Like the strikeouts continue to be really good. He still
Speaker 5: strikes out a lot of guys. And the walks have
Speaker 5: never been a problem for Brandon White at all in
Speaker 5: his minor league career, you know. And Jacksonville now three
Speaker 5: two six walk per nine and he was in double
Speaker 5: A won three six walk per nine.
Speaker 1: So he's very good.
Speaker 5: And I think, who knows, maybe coming out of the
Speaker 5: bullpen helps him out a little bit. But I still,
Speaker 5: you know, we were talking about it, like the Martins
Speaker 5: needed Tyler Phillips type of guy. Maybe this is the
Speaker 5: guy that could do that where he could pitch in
Speaker 5: a variety of different situations. If they're really gonna dry
Speaker 5: him out of the bullpen and really do this, do
Speaker 5: it in multiple do it in multi inning stretches where
Speaker 5: he comes in during the game. Maybe he's one of
Speaker 5: those guys that just benefits from having a pitcher go
Speaker 5: before him, you know, And that could be the case.
Speaker 5: But overall, I like Brandon White. I mean, we liked
Speaker 5: him enough to put him on the top three despite
Speaker 5: the the ugly surface numbers. But you know, you look
Speaker 5: at the five to five to nine ERA, but he
Speaker 5: isn't expected ERA four h three, so he has been
Speaker 5: a little bit unlucky too. But I look at those
Speaker 5: first couple of starts. This is a big reason for
Speaker 5: those bad surface numbers. But he's the fastball Velos is
Speaker 5: there and it's it's a lively fastball, and it's a
Speaker 5: really good fastball. So I'm looking forward to seeing how
Speaker 5: he ends off the season. I don't think he's a
Speaker 5: guy that gets called up this year, maybe very late
Speaker 5: into the season just to see what you got, especially
Speaker 5: if the Marlins are out of it, just to see
Speaker 5: what you got. But maybe next year he's an NRI
Speaker 5: competing for.
Speaker 1: A roster spot.
Speaker 4: Mm hm.
Speaker 3: We're gonna start closing it out here talking about these
Speaker 3: Marlins called candidates. The only reason why I want to
Speaker 3: go into it is that even though we know that
Speaker 3: the Marlins are gonna be aggressive looking for guys at
Speaker 3: this deadline, we have not seen Peter Bendix make these
Speaker 3: win now moves yet. And this is a team that
Speaker 3: they might not want to give up the prospects required
Speaker 3: to ultimately win the bidding awards from some of the
Speaker 3: sexier veteran players on the market, And if they don't,
Speaker 3: it's because they believe a lot in the next guy up,
Speaker 3: rather than wanting to mention a couple of these guys
Speaker 3: as trade candidates. If you believe that these guys themselves
Speaker 3: might actually be as good as the veterans and have
Speaker 3: all these years of control, that's going to be the
Speaker 3: instinct that this front office is fighting against. Because it's
Speaker 3: so valuable to have players that could help right away
Speaker 3: and be under control at cheap prices for the next
Speaker 3: few years that I just want to, you know, kind
Speaker 3: of set expectations, temper expectations in terms of how active
Speaker 3: the Marlins are going to be once they get to
Speaker 3: in these negotiations and realize what it's really going to
Speaker 3: take to overpay for rentals at different positions, that I
Speaker 3: really wouldn't be surprised if it's a relatively quiet deadline,
Speaker 3: even if they keep on winning and stay in the
Speaker 3: contending spot. And also beyond that, this happens every year
Speaker 3: where we get really excited, not we necessarily covering the
Speaker 3: marlins of a like across baseball, people get excited about
Speaker 3: the big names that change teams of the deadline, and
Speaker 3: then some of them, for whatever reason, they either stink
Speaker 3: once they get to their new team or they just
Speaker 3: get hurt. Like these guys can get hurt too, even
Speaker 3: if there's you have this wonderful idea about how they
Speaker 3: fit into the team, in their roster and how they're
Speaker 3: gonna make an impact, Like they're still human and they could.
Speaker 3: They're just as suspensible to injuries as others. So they
Speaker 3: might pay a pretty penny to get some of these
Speaker 3: players and just aren't available. They're gonna be injuries one
Speaker 3: way or the other downe the stretch, and that's why
Speaker 3: they'll have to You need to keep an eye on
Speaker 3: what they have in Jacksonville, whether it's players that we
Speaker 3: haven't seen in a while or we haven't even seen
Speaker 3: yet at all at the big league level.
Speaker 4: I think they do.
Speaker 3: Have all these interesting candidates down there. Some i'd like
Speaker 3: to see immediately, like Ralston. I'd love to see Braxton
Speaker 3: garrittan just to see what they have in him right now.
Speaker 3: And I'd like to see a bunch of different hitters
Speaker 3: right now over no offense over like a Reese Hines
Speaker 3: or Navaretto or Leo Humanez like it. I think they
Speaker 3: make me these little changes immediately. I won't be surprised
Speaker 3: if they make these changes at some point as this
Speaker 3: season wraps up. So of course we'll keep covering that
Speaker 3: as closely as possible. Kevin himself always covers Jacksonville for
Speaker 3: our weekly Minor League report, so that'll be out just
Speaker 3: a couple of days after this to check in on
Speaker 3: those guys and how they did coming out of the
Speaker 3: All Star break. But this is episode one fourteen of
Speaker 3: Unfiltered with Eli and Kevin, part of the On the
Speaker 3: Fish on First podcast part in the Found Territory Network
Speaker 3: presented by Jetski Rentals of South Florida. So yeah, there'll
Speaker 3: be another stream recapping the Brewers series very shortly after
Speaker 3: you watch and listen to this, and then we'll have
Speaker 3: at least one episode of Unfiltered coming up next week.
Speaker 3: A whole lot of trade deadline talk away coming up
Speaker 3: these next couple of weeks, and we hope we set
Speaker 3: the table for that with this conversation. So thanks again
Speaker 3: for all your support. As always, go Fish.