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Speaker 1: And welcome in. Lake Kick is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, January twenty eighth, the Year of

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Speaker 2: Our Lord, twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: We have got a jam packed show.

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Speaker 2: I called it earlier today on Twitter, potentially the most

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Speaker 2: balanced show that we've had since we've been here, which

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Speaker 2: has been almost a year. Now, we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about I mean, Colin, we're talking recruiting a little bit tonight,

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Speaker 2: We're talking scheduling, we're talking hiring, we're talking predictions, and

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Speaker 2: we're all doing it in the same show. So again,

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Speaker 2: anyone out there who is daring to tell you that

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Speaker 2: it is the off season and therefore dead season with

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Speaker 2: no content, just come.

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Speaker 1: Over here, because we got a whole lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: We have already taken content out of our show today

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Speaker 2: and pushed it down the road to Sunday. That's how

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Speaker 2: loaded we are. We are going to talk about the

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Speaker 2: SEC schedule. I necessarily think what we say tonight is

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Speaker 2: going to be in line with all the other takeaways

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Speaker 2: you've seen. If it was, I wouldn't waste your time

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Speaker 2: with it tonight. Kind of the same way with Josh

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Speaker 2: Heipelin Tennessee. We did a reaction video yesterday it's on

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Speaker 2: the twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel. So if

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Speaker 2: you want to watch that, the immediate rapid reaction that

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Speaker 2: we would normally do on the show, we did that.

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Speaker 2: I got some more thoughts tonight that kind of add

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Speaker 2: on to and extend from those original points.

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Speaker 1: We're going to look at value plays.

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Speaker 2: A lot of folks who have no clue about stock

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Speaker 2: out there all of a sudden talking about stock these

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Speaker 2: last couple of days, which has been fun. I actually

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Speaker 2: will talk about that in a second, not handing out

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Speaker 2: college football, because we got some value plays in college

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Speaker 2: football that I think, from a program standpoint, really need

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Speaker 2: to be talked about. And last, but certainly not least tonight,

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Speaker 2: In fact, we gave thought.

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Speaker 1: To leading the show with this. There was big news

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Speaker 1: in the world of recruiting today.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you've watched Late Kig, we do dabble in recruiting,

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Speaker 2: but we normally talk about it from like this really

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Speaker 2: one little segment. However, I'm going to talk about something

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Speaker 2: Georgia did today, and that's because it has a big

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Speaker 2: ripple effect. When we talked about Sark to Texas, I said,

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Speaker 2: this is going to have a ripple effect throughout the sport.

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Speaker 2: I think what Georgia pulled off today, you know, not

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Speaker 2: we've got a lot to get to tonight. And I

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Speaker 2: all the goings on on Wall Street right now, there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of people up in arms, and there

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Speaker 2: So it's been really fun for us. It's been really

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Speaker 1: So I've been watching this and I've just kind of

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Speaker 1: They're been out of shape because you have a voice.

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Speaker 2: They've been out of shape because I've got more power

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Speaker 2: There are downsides to evolution and change, certainly there are.

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Speaker 1: He knows what the deck holds right now.

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Speaker 2: Aggie's losing one game and that's to the eventual national

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Speaker 2: champ And then you got folks saying, well, Cincinnati's got

440
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Speaker 2: no losses, so they should be ahead of Texas, A

441
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Speaker 2: and M. Like, that's the conversation at the end of

442
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Speaker 2: the day. If you've got a lot of people legitimately

443
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Speaker 2: pushing for that and the value of a loss is

444
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Speaker 2: just equal, it's apples to apples. No matter what conference

445
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,920
Speaker 2: you play in and no matter who you played this year,

446
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Speaker 2: why in the world would I ever voluntarily make my

447
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Speaker 2: schedule tougher? The answer is I wouldn't. Okay, it would

448
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Speaker 2: be good for me, but I don't run the SEC.

449
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,679
Speaker 2: Greg Sankie does. Having said that, I will at least

450
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Speaker 2: offer you a little bit of solace in the fact

451
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Speaker 2: that pre Iron Bowl week it used to be cupcake City.

452
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Speaker 2: It was sponsored by an actual pastry somewhere in Birmingham.

453
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Speaker 1: Well.

454
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Speaker 2: Now Alabama plays Arkansas the week before the Iron Bowl.

455
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Speaker 2: Auburn plays at South Carolina the week before.

456
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Speaker 1: The Iron Bowl.

457
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Speaker 2: That's about as good as I can do. Those are

458
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Speaker 2: my takeaways from the SEC schedule. Obviously, the Good Lord

459
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Speaker 2: created the mo of May and June and July for

460
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Speaker 2: us to continue to talk about this so it's January,

461
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 2: We've still got a lot more to get to. Investment

462
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 2: has been the name of the game in the social

463
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Speaker 2: media world, and it's just it's it's filtered out into

464
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Speaker 2: the regular world. I mean, a guy on a street

465
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Speaker 2: corner right now is asking, hey, investment man, you got

466
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Speaker 2: any stock tips for me?

467
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Speaker 1: Well, no, we don't do that on this show.

468
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Speaker 2: However, I think there are some very undervalued brands right

469
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Speaker 2: now and teams in college football. I had to whittle

470
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Speaker 2: this down because I get aggressive. I am an internal

471
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Speaker 2: optimist in the offseason. I always want to find the path.

472
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Speaker 2: I got thirty seven teams right now that I think

473
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Speaker 2: could win the national championship this year. So I cannot

474
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Speaker 2: tell you what the next game stop is going to be.

475
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Speaker 2: But I do think I can tell you a few

476
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Speaker 2: teams right now that if you want to sound smart,

477
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Speaker 2: come December, and not just twenty twenty one, but twenty two,

478
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Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty four, these are probably the programs you

479
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Speaker 2: want to keep a little bit of an eye on.

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Speaker 1: Let me start with Penn State.

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Speaker 2: We hadn't talked about the Nickney Lyons in a few

482
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Speaker 2: weeks the last four years before this last year, so fifteen,

483
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Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen or sixteen seventeen.

484
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Speaker 1: Eighteen nineteen.

485
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Speaker 2: Penn States win total in those four years leading up

486
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Speaker 2: to this past year, which was a debacle, and we'll

487
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Speaker 2: talk about it in a second. Eleven wins, eleven wins,

488
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Speaker 2: nine wins, eleven wins, then they go four and five.

489
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Speaker 1: It was the COVID year.

490
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Speaker 2: Obviously, now twenty twenty had disproportionate impact program to program.

491
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Speaker 2: We have well established that on this show. We do

492
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Speaker 2: not believe every program was impacted equally. There is no metric.

493
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Speaker 2: I cannot quantify it for you. I'm just telling you

494
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Speaker 2: when I watch a program go from eleven to eleven

495
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Speaker 2: to nine to eleven to zero to four to start

496
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Speaker 2: the year, I don't think that would have happened in

497
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Speaker 2: a normal year. That's just my guess. I could be wrong,

498
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Speaker 2: That's just my guess. However, there were other things going

499
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Speaker 2: on there too. I mean, James Franklin had family issues

500
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Speaker 2: behind the scenes that were kind of It was well

501
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Speaker 2: enough documented to where Penn State fans are probably aware

502
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Speaker 2: of it. I'm not making excuses. I'm telling you this

503
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 2: is probably a contributing factor. They had a new offensive

504
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Speaker 2: coordinator in there, worst possible time, no spring ball, Kurk

505
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Speaker 2: Soroka ends up not working out.

506
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Speaker 1: You got Mike Herris at jen Now, a lot.

507
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Speaker 2: Of experience back, hopefully a full spring to integrate his

508
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Speaker 2: philosophy into Penn State football and offensively there. James Franklin

509
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Speaker 2: I believe turned down the Tennessee job. I know Danny

510
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Speaker 2: White wouldn't tell you that, but I believe the Tennessee

511
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Speaker 2: job was James Franklin's if he wanted, he turned it

512
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Speaker 2: down again.

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Speaker 1: That's my opinion. Not coming in a press conference anytime soon,

514
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Speaker 1: he is fully committed. You hope he's reinvigorated.

515
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Speaker 2: I think he probably got some facility promises that he

516
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: was sort of looking to broker, and so everything signed

517
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Speaker 2: off there. The roster's probably undervalued. It's not quite Ohio State,

518
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Speaker 2: it's not close to Ohio.

519
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Speaker 1: State, and therefore I think he gets overlooked.

520
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Speaker 2: But if you look at it nationally and forget about

521
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Speaker 2: conference boundaries for a second, Penn State's in a really

522
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Speaker 2: good place. You know, if I were to drop Penn

523
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Speaker 2: State in the ACC, it would immediately become well.

524
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Speaker 1: There they are. They're a premier challenger to Clemson.

525
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Speaker 2: But yet it's not quite thought the same way in

526
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Speaker 2: the Big Ten. Another program that I'm looking at is Oklahoma.

527
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Speaker 2: Now Oklahoma a little more high profile program here, so

528
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: it's already worth a lot. I still think the Sooners

529
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Speaker 2: are undervalued. The immediate return is there because they could

530
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Speaker 2: win the national title this year. Like They're probably as

531
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Speaker 2: legitimate a contender this upcoming season as they have been

532
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Speaker 2: at any point under Lincoln Riley. There they have overhauled

533
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Speaker 2: their philosophy. I could contend they were playing better defense

534
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Speaker 2: down the stretch than both teams.

535
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Speaker 1: That played for a national title.

536
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Speaker 2: They weren't as good a team, and even though they

537
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Speaker 2: got hot in the latter portion of the year, I

538
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Speaker 2: don't think they were ready to contend quite yet with

539
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Speaker 2: Buckey's or Crimson Tide, but I do believe they were

540
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Speaker 2: playing better defense. Now, I just want to pause for

541
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Speaker 2: a second because I'm going to talk about this in

542
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Speaker 2: relation to Georgia in just a few minutes. Did you

543
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Speaker 2: think I would be saying that three years ago. I'm

544
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Speaker 2: not telling you they were better than either one of those.

545
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Speaker 2: I said they were playing better and higher quality defense

546
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Speaker 2: than either one of those at the end of the year.

547
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Speaker 2: Did you ever think you were going to hear that. No. Well,

548
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Speaker 2: when we talked about Oklahoma back in the spring and

549
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Speaker 2: I said I think are going to eventually be a

550
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Speaker 2: legitimate national title contender because they're going to play better defense.

551
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Speaker 2: I got some pushback, and that's because you hadn't seen

552
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Speaker 2: it before. But what I said, and the point I

553
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: made is there's no motivation for really smart coaches to

554
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: continue doing the same thing when they're not getting good results.

555
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: So Lincoln Riley had already made changes, he had already

556
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Speaker 2: brought Alex Scrinch in, they had already started to radically

557
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: overhaul their defensive roster. You just hadn't gotten immediate results.

558
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Speaker 2: So everyone kept on saying, well, Oklahoma will never play

559
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Speaker 2: good enough defense. No, they hadn't played good enough defense.

560
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Speaker 1: But now they do.

561
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Speaker 2: You know what else they have this year or returning quarterback,

562
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Speaker 2: a ton of talent returning all over the place. They'll

563
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Speaker 2: have their best team, I think under Lincoln Riley this year.

564
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Speaker 2: So they're a football team that is already an elite power,

565
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Speaker 2: but now the competitive balance is there to where that's

566
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Speaker 2: a really good value play not to make the playoff.

567
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Speaker 1: But to potentially win a national championship.

568
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Speaker 2: Now Oregon is in a conference whose appearance drags them down,

569
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Speaker 2: and I think we all understand the dynamics in play there.

570
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Speaker 2: That's why Oregon's kind of got to operate in a

571
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Speaker 2: national approach. They recruit already at a national approach. That's

572
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Speaker 2: the word I want to focus on here. When I

573
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Speaker 2: mentioned Oregon, you probably immediately think, Okay, good story.

574
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Speaker 1: This past year, won the Rose Bowl the year before.

575
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Speaker 2: I don't take them as seriously as a national contender because.

576
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Speaker 1: Why wait for it, wait for it?

577
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 2: They're in the PAC twelve, and no PAC twelve team

578
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: can do this or that. I don't think about teams

579
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: like that. Oregon is a tike or two obviously off

580
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: the national pace. But Organ's also recruiting at equal to

581
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Speaker 2: or higher levels than a lot of teams that may

582
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: be a little bit ahead of them in that national landscape.

583
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Speaker 2: Do you understand, because I don't think some people. Do

584
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Speaker 2: you understand how elite their recruiting operation is. Right now,

585
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 2: they're sitting at number six, not in the PAC twelve,

586
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: in the country and are probably going to rise. We

587
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Speaker 2: got signing they coming up less than a week from now,

588
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: which will be live here in this studio. Hey, Organ's

589
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: not done. I got news for you. Oregon may finish

590
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 2: higher than number six. They are currently rated higher than

591
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Speaker 2: the likes of Texas A and m USC, which having

592
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Speaker 2: a good year. The Trojans are Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Florida,

593
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Speaker 2: North Carolina. Like all these programs are thrust into the

594
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Speaker 2: mainstream conversation. Oregon maybe not so much because of the

595
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Speaker 2: affiliation Conference wise, Hey, they're recruiting better than those programs

596
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: are right now, and they're obsessed with it. That is

597
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: the name of the game there, recruiting. They are obsessed with.

598
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Speaker 2: It is a constant, twenty five hour a day operation

599
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Speaker 2: at Oregon. I know exactly what I just said. So

600
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Speaker 2: because of that, they are going to possess a talent

601
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: roster that's not going to allow them to fail. And

602
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 2: they're getting quarterback answered hopefully in this class now. Ty

603
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: Thompson's already rated high. A little birdie told me there's

604
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Speaker 2: some people out there that still believe he's underrated, believe

605
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: that fifth star should be next to his name, and

606
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: believe it should be Ty Thompson that's inserted right there

607
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 2: in that discussion as top quarterback in the country or

608
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: right there with the Drake Mays of the world, for example,

609
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams of the world. So hey, for their sake,

610
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: I hope that's true. I don't claim to be a

611
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 2: scout here, I just know a few of them. But

612
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: Oregon keep an eye on the Ducks. And also Texas

613
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: A and M. Not Texas A and M was right

614
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: there in the playoff conversation this year. But Texas A

615
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: and M has either the good fortune or the misfortune,

616
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Speaker 2: depending on your perspective, of hiding in Alabama's shadow as

617
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: they've grown into an elite.

618
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Speaker 1: College football power.

619
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Speaker 2: Everything's there, though, and I've talked a lot about Texas

620
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 2: A and M. I believe everything is there and the

621
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: only real hurdle is subconsciously everyone knows. I'm not going

622
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 2: to buy into them until they get over Alabama. And

623
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Speaker 2: Alabama they got to play them every year. So as

624
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: long as Nick Saban's there, can't really take the Aggie seriously, well,

625
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: I can. I mean, I'm a believer that eventually Jimbo

626
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: can get that program, and maybe he already has to

627
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: a point where they don't need to win the West

628
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: or the SEC to make the playoff. And if you

629
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: don't believe that or if you're not a fan of

630
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: that ideology, the last thing in the world I would

631
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: advise you to do is support college football playoff expansion.

632
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: Trip be told, that's probably the only thing keeping multiple

633
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: SEC teams, like for instance, Texas A and M out

634
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Speaker 2: If you evaluate this program, everything is there. Don't be

635
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: the person and it gets shocked when A and M

636
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: makes the playoff.

637
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: Don't be the guy who looks around and.

638
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: Says, I knew they were decent, but man, they kind

639
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: of came out of nowhere.

640
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 1: No, they haven't.

641
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: They've built the right way, their infrastructures in place, their

642
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 2: recruiting operations in place. They've beat Alabama straight up on

643
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: a couple of guys. I mean McKinley Jackson last year.

644
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: They beat Alabama straight up for him. And that wasn't

645
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: some Texas kid where they had an inherent vantage like

646
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: they went into I think it was Mississippi beat Alabama

647
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: straight up for him. They've won some recruiting battles. They're

648
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: doing a really good job there. They've built the nucleus

649
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: inside out. They got depth along the lines of scrimmage.

650
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: They got to get better on the perimeter at wide

651
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: receiver and they got to get the quarterback in there.

652
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: And listen, that's not insurmountable. Haines King on campus already

653
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: may be the guy at quarterback.

654
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Speaker 1: It's what I'm saying.

655
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Speaker 2: So it's not like we're trying to look look far

656
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: and wide for a potential transfer.

657
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: King may be the guy, and if he is, A

658
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: and M's going to be right there.

659
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: That's not a program that even Alabama is just going

660
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: to bully and you know, push off the street. That'll

661
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: be a lot more like those classic LSU battles years

662
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: past if they get quarterback figured out. If they don't,

663
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: it's fifty two to twenty four time every single year.

664
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: But those are some thoughts on good college football investments.

665
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: Right now, I want to wrap up the show by

666
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: talking about Georgia. Here's you, a clean and cut Colin.

667
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: We don't talk recruiting a whole lot on the show

668
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: at a micro level, but we got to right now.

669
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: It was a huge day for Georgia. We rarely do this,

670
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: but I'm doing it, and I'll tell you exactly why

671
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: I'm doing it. And by this I mean talking about

672
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: an individual recruiting battle.

673
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: So here's the quick Who what win, Where, and why.

674
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: Here's what happened today.

675
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: So Gunner Stockton, who was recently committed to South Carolina,

676
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: he decommitted. He is, in my opinion, the top overall

677
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: quarterback in the twenty twenty two class.

678
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: I think we may have him rated there.

679
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: Actually, he's obviously the number one duel threat guy in

680
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two class. He committed to Georgia today.

681
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: He's out of Raven County A right, he's six', one

682
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 2: he's two. Twenty that's the key, though, though why at

683
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: the very end? Here why is this? Important that's the.

684
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: Key so when this, happened like a lot of people

685
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: Thought Mike bobo was the reason he Committed South, Carolina

686
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: Mike bobo's At. Auburn, now maybe this is How Brian

687
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: harson makes a splash and he Gets Gunner. Stockton that

688
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: wasn't what was happening behind the. SCENES i was listening

689
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: To Rusty menzel And jake And kip and the guys

690
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: over At dogs twenty four to seven talk today on the,

691
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 2: podcast and it was the day that he decommitted From

692
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: carolina that he was in contact With georgia and, said, hey,

693
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: Man i'm talking to You.

694
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: Kirby, smart LIKE i Think i'm leaning. THERE i don't

695
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: know IF i want any part of This auburn deal

696
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: for whatever, Reason i'm not in his. HEAD i don't,

697
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: know but the why is.

698
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: Important SO i want you to think about, something because

699
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: the reaction today was. Stark you Had georgia fans who

700
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: were over the moon excited about, it and then you

701
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: had fans of other programs who had a wide variety of.

702
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: Reaction you, know some people were. Impressed but here's WHAT

703
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: i got a lot of in my, inbox AND i

704
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: didn't really answer many of them BECAUSE i planned on

705
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: answering them.

706
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: Here some people, laughed and there were a lot of these.

707
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: Reactions it was, either, well there goes another future wasted

708
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: talent at quarterback late round draft, pick or, Well Kirby

709
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: smart can't develop, quarterbacks or uh, oh two five star

710
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: quarterbacks on campus at the same, time him And brock.

711
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: Vandergriff where have we seen that? Before, look if.

712
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: You got doubts about Whether georgia can properly harness elite

713
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: talent at quarterback or if they can develop elite talent at,

714
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK i can get on board with. THAT i know

715
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: where that comes from some healthy suspicion about this whole.

716
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: Deal that's, fine but there's a difference between thinking that

717
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: and saying things Like georgia can't develop.

718
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks there's a.

719
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: Difference between saying that versus, THINKING i just have some.

720
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: Doubts because when you say they can't develop, quarterbacks that's

721
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: WHERE i got a little bit of a bone to,

722
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: pick because that sounds a whole lot like the crowd

723
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 2: that not too long ago was Saying oklahoma can't win

724
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: in the playoff Because oklahoma can't play. Defense you were

725
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: wrong when you said That oklahoma wasn't playing good enough.

726
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: Defense georgia hasn't developed quarterback good. Enough but here's the

727
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: thing about smart. People sharp smart football people have no

728
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: incentive to remain the same if they're effort is not producing.

729
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: Results and So Kirby smart's not. Stupid look at his last.

730
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: Name Kirby smart's not, stupid just Like Lincoln, Riley oklahoma wasn't.

731
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 2: Stupid they were looking at their respective results and they

732
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: knew what you.

733
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: Knew it wasn't good. Enough didn't take a rocket scientist

734
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: to figure it.

735
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: Out so the last thing in the world they're going

736
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: to do is maintain status. Quo, therefore in my, mind

737
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: If i'm just trying to look at this through the

738
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: eyes of an, analyst the last Thing i'm going to

739
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: expect are the exact same.

740
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: Results something's going to.

741
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: Change it may be for the better or it may,

742
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: not but something's going to, change and SO i think

743
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: it's in your best interest to expect things to. Change

744
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: Kirby smart knows he Played florida this year and got

745
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: ripped in the first. Half he Played alabama got ripped

746
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: in the second. Half that guy understands they're not good

747
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: enough at quarterback and haven't.

748
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: Been it could be that he.

749
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: Already pressed the right button and maybe his name Is

750
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: Todd monkin and taking away spring this year just kind

751
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: of knocked over those bowling pins and they weren't able

752
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: to do what they wanted to do this year WITH.

753
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: Jt daniels And Jamie newman tran it. Out but it

754
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: may be that he's already come to that. Realization you're

755
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: just going to have a delayed year gratification on that

756
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: because they haven't really been able to structure it the

757
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: way they want. To but it's not about Whether Kirby

758
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: smart can develop a.

759
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: QUARTERBACK i got news for. You Nick saban's never developed a.

760
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: Quarterback but What Nick saban has done is installed the

761
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: proper philosophy and cast the right. Vision and here's the

762
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: most important. Part hire the right people who are experts

763
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: in that. Field Steve sarkejan would be the perfect example Of.

764
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: Alabama Maybe Todd. Monkin i'm not saying they're, equals but

765
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: Maybe Todd monkin is the perfect example of that At.

766
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: Georgia and if that's the, case then this could end

767
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: up being one of the very biggest recruiting wins in

768
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: the history Of Kirby smart's tenure at The university Of.

769
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: Georgia And i'll tell you twofold one number One Gunner

770
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: stockton's just extremely good and guy can throw it a million.

771
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: Miles he's not six, four two, twenty but he's got

772
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: an incredible, arm incredible, arm, talent high FOOTBALL. Iq still

773
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: obviously room to fill out. Physically but here's the second,

774
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: part and this is a case by case. Basis Caleb

775
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: williams in this year's quarterback class fits this. Description there

776
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: are some guys that are just magnetic and other players

777
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: gravitate to and this kid fits that.

778
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: Description In.

779
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: Spage when they got him to verbally commit, today you

780
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: might as well have gotten about half a dozen other

781
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: offensive talents and maybe even defensive talents to commit To

782
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: georgia along with. Him they didn't all do it, today

783
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: But i'm telling you they probably locked up half of

784
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: their twenty twenty two.

785
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: Class when they locked him.

786
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: Up and the final THING i want to address it's

787
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: some folks get defensive when this happens and they'll, say,

788
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 2: well you, know, recruiting he'll probably just. DECOMMIT I, no

789
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: he won't. Know he Won't decommits happen all the. Time

790
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: that kid's not decommitting From. Georgia and if anyone wants

791
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: to challenge me on, that it's not that it's a,

792
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: certainty BUT i would very comfortably wager that comes Signing

793
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 2: day in twenty twenty, two he's In. Athens that's ONE

794
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: i feel pretty confident. In SO i just want to

795
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: put it on the record because this is probably a

796
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: video that we're going to reference several times leading up

797
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: to the. Season just because you haven't done something doesn't

798
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: always mean you won't be able, to especially when you

799
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: have the coaching staff and the roster to do.

800
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: It now you just got to press the.

801
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: BUTTON i Think kirby smart philosophically has pressed the, button

802
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: and now you're finally getting the kind of talent roster

803
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: that's a reflection of what you would get had you

804
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: already pressed that. Button one of the first pieces of

805
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: FEEDBACK i saw from this, Kid Gunner stockton, today WHEN

806
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: i was reading over on The dogs twenty four to seven,

807
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: BOARD i.

808
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: Heard him, say you, KNOW i watched, them and especially When.

809
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: Daniels was inserted into the, LINEUP i really saw them

810
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 2: do what previously they hadn't been willing to, do stretching

811
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: the field.

812
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: Vertically that perfectly fits the kind of PLAYER i.

813
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: Am, well if he sees, that that's the most important

814
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: set of, eyeballs because he's a kid who's going to

815
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: be on the field one.

816
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: Day so you Got brock.

817
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 2: Vandergriff coming into this class five star in his own,

818
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: right five star. Caliber you, know let's not play some

819
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: mantics there with thirty three to thirty, two and then

820
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: you get this kid five star caliber for next, Year

821
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: stack as much quarterback talent on top of each other

822
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: as you possibly, can and then let the chips fall

823
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: where they may had they not done that this, year

824
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: they would have never HAD.

825
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: Jt daniels on. Campus so keep doing.

826
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: IT i don't think both of them are going to

827
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 2: be there four years from. Now both of them don't

828
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: need to be there four years from. Now that's the

829
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: name of the game in college football twenty twenty, one to.

830
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: Beyond find as much challenge as you, can especially at,

831
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: quarterback stack it on top of each, other put the

832
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: appropriate pieces in coaching personnel around, them and let the

833
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: chips fall where they.

834
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: May SO i Guess i'm Buying georgia football.

835
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: Too a reminder as we get out of here, TONIGHT

836
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: i am, yeah we'll do.

837
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: It, Okay So i'm opening up next. Week i've already

838
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: got a couple of slots. Filled i'm opening up next

839
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: week any of.

840
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: You i've got a session in actually twenty three minutes

841
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: one on one zoom sessions for anyone interested in kind

842
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: of broaching the interest of entering the field of college.

843
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: Football after that little, SOLILOQUY i spent the first five

844
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: minutes of the show discussing.

845
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: It's there for. You gotta work out, it but it's

846
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: there for.

847
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: You and so if you want to discuss, that if

848
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: you want to discuss building your own YouTube, channel, podcast

849
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: maybe you, know working for more classical media giant. Whatever

850
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: if you're interested in, it book a session with Me

851
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: josh paid seven zero six at gmail dot com or

852
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 2: On twitter at Late Kick, josh AND i would encourage

853
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: you follow me there to begin. With, thus a lot

854
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: happens obviously during the week we can always talk about

855
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: so for Director, colin for Producer. Jordan on the podcast

856
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: side of, Things I'm Josh pate thrilled to have you

857
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: with us every night that you're with.

858
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: Us thank you so, Much take, care have a great,

859
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: evening And god bless