WEBVTT - Be Kind, Rewind: “Back 2 School” with Ethan Suplee

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us. Writer who's here today?

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<v Speaker 2>Today we're joined by none other than my brother Shilah Strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeahs so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>You always every time I see you, I go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he lives by the beach. You've got the perfect amount

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<v Speaker 3>of like you get a little bit of vitamin D

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<v Speaker 3>every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have behind him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah exactly, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Aside from the wave, but just his skin has a

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<v Speaker 3>nice like I've spent the perfect amount of time in

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<v Speaker 3>the sun's.

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<v Speaker 4>Right amount of pre cancerous.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say, it's a healthy glow till you're

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<v Speaker 5>about sixty.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm super grateful because I have a little backyard I

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<v Speaker 7>can go and tinker around under the beach.

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<v Speaker 4>It's yeah, it's great, love it nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to bring Shiloh on because, well, for

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<v Speaker 2>our listeners that'll actually know that. You know, the first

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<v Speaker 2>time we had Shiloh on, I think we mentioned the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that Shiloh lost his house gosh, twelve years ago. Shiloh,

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<v Speaker 2>it was fifteen years ago in a fire, one of

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<v Speaker 2>them really California fires. I mean, now it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a regular thing. But yeah, so we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about that, and then we did an episode the

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<v Speaker 2>week of the fires, if I remember, and we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how it was affecting the city and our

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<v Speaker 2>lives and everybody we knew, and of course, like one

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest areas that it affected is the entertainment industry.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I just have was having so many

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<v Speaker 2>conversations with so many people, like a friend who is

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<v Speaker 2>a production designer and she was working the week or

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<v Speaker 2>she was working the day of the fires that canceled

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<v Speaker 2>the shoot and then took the shoot to Atlanta. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because it was like things have to get shot things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And it wasn't really anybody's fault, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>just the fact of the matter is we lost a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of jobs. We lost a lot of.

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<v Speaker 5>The industry, and so that was just piling on after

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<v Speaker 5>losing a ton of jobs and everything else your school.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I just kept having these conversations and Chilo

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<v Speaker 2>kept having these conversations, and like everybody we knew was

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<v Speaker 2>affected or had lost or you know, I did the jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>and Chilo actually did something about it, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else that I know and myself included. So Hilo

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<v Speaker 2>tell us. What you what you've started?

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<v Speaker 4>Please you did help?

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<v Speaker 7>Like this has been Yeah, it's it's been a wild

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<v Speaker 7>experience because I, you know, when when the fires were

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<v Speaker 7>happening in La, like we all were trying to figure

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<v Speaker 7>out how to help and running around and it was

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<v Speaker 7>just so traumatic for everybody who was so very and terrifying,

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<v Speaker 7>you know. And I was running around and donating and

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<v Speaker 7>doing all the immediate needs stuff and that's when I

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<v Speaker 7>was looking back to my experience when I had lost

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<v Speaker 7>my home and the fire, and you know, there's that

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<v Speaker 7>period where you're dealing with all that immediate need of

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<v Speaker 7>getting a house, dealing with the insurance, like it's just

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<v Speaker 7>so overwhelming, you know. But then there's the period after

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<v Speaker 7>that where you almost miss that because that's when you

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<v Speaker 7>start really questioning what you want to do with your life,

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<v Speaker 7>because it takes three months or so and that's where

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<v Speaker 7>you're completely lost and you have I keep using the

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<v Speaker 7>word opportunity, but it's not the right word, but you

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<v Speaker 7>have the option to get up on your life because

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<v Speaker 7>it's a before and after moment, especially for people in

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<v Speaker 7>the creative arts or in the entertainment industry. Like you

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<v Speaker 7>were saying, well, it's like it's been so difficult with

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<v Speaker 7>COVID and back to back strikes and now yeah, house

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<v Speaker 7>burns down. You know, yes, of course you're going to

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<v Speaker 7>move to Atlanta or New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's keeping you here?

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<v Speaker 7>And why fight for dream of trying to live this

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<v Speaker 7>creative life which everybody feels like the world's telling you,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, get a real job, right. Yeah, So I said, okay, wow,

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<v Speaker 7>I remember looking back at my period fifteen years ago,

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<v Speaker 7>and I was lucky enough to have Rider and you

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<v Speaker 7>know you guys too, I mean, will I remember I

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<v Speaker 7>stayed with you a month, I think when I was

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<v Speaker 7>homeless and having that support of people in the entertainment

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<v Speaker 7>industry and filmmaking world was really helpful. And that's when

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<v Speaker 7>Ryder and I started making our short films and we

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<v Speaker 7>started really going out.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was able to really.

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<v Speaker 7>Trace back to that moment when it really helped me,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, to pursue a creative life. And I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 7>have done that if I didn't have you guys in

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<v Speaker 7>that supportive community. And I said, okay, well, that's something

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<v Speaker 7>I know is going to happen to a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>people that are going to be in that same situation

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<v Speaker 7>at this moment we're in right now, right a few

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<v Speaker 7>months after the fires, and I said, okay, well, I

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<v Speaker 7>know I could be there for those people. So I

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<v Speaker 7>had some money set aside because I was going to

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<v Speaker 7>do a short film that I was going to write

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<v Speaker 7>and direct in January. And I was like, I'm going

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<v Speaker 7>to hire people who've been affected by the fires to

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<v Speaker 7>work on my short film. And I was like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>that's going to feel good. And then I said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>that's a better idea than my short film. So I

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<v Speaker 7>took that money and I've built out a nonprofit because

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't know how to do that, but I hired

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<v Speaker 7>nonprofit consultants and they came on and gave me the

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<v Speaker 7>whole path of how to do this. And been getting

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<v Speaker 7>volunteers and people jumping on board and donations and building

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<v Speaker 7>out the website and learning so much and it's just

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<v Speaker 7>been so rewarding and exciting. But the goal is to

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<v Speaker 7>raise money to fund We're going for ten short film

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<v Speaker 7>projects and these would be by filmmakers or people who

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<v Speaker 7>want to make films who were affected by the fires,

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<v Speaker 7>and we'll be able to give them grants and the

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<v Speaker 7>support and then ultimately have a festival showcase in January

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<v Speaker 7>of next year where we could all scream them. And

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<v Speaker 7>so it's all about, you know, reviving the creative spirit

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<v Speaker 7>and coming together as a community and trying to help

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<v Speaker 7>creative people and saying you know that, you know, the

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<v Speaker 7>arts really are important for you know, recovery, just as

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<v Speaker 7>much as getting a roof over your head, you know, especially,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, it's so much about Los Angeles and the world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>so that's been my life since then. It's been super

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<v Speaker 7>rewarding and amazing and yeah, and it's just a lot,

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<v Speaker 7>but it's super super fun.

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<v Speaker 3>We hear a lot on the internet the word triggered,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's always it's most of the time said in

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<v Speaker 3>a real negative sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh were you triggered? Or I'm really feeling triggered.

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<v Speaker 3>This is such a perfect example, like, there's no way

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<v Speaker 3>those fires or every major fire we have in Los

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<v Speaker 3>Angeles or in California isn't triggering for you who lost

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<v Speaker 3>everything fifteen years ago. And to take that triggering and

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<v Speaker 3>go ooh, it's bringing me right back to my experience.

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<v Speaker 3>How can I use this experience that you know, only

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<v Speaker 3>a certain number of people know what it feels like

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<v Speaker 3>to make a difference for every person in our community

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<v Speaker 3>moving forward, and what you've done with it is just

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<v Speaker 3>so incredible, Like it's so inspiring.

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<v Speaker 1>How can how can everybody help? What?

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<v Speaker 4>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's? Where can people go? What can people? What can

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<v Speaker 1>people do?

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<v Speaker 4>That's great? Thanks? Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh yeah, I mean we have a website ashestefilms dot org.

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<v Speaker 8>And the interest of that name now, thanks, Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 8>the that's the name of the festival and the whole

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<v Speaker 8>grant program. Yeah, if you go to the website and

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<v Speaker 8>so sign up to our our email list. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>really we're just trying to get followers and trying to

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<v Speaker 8>get people out there to know about it. That's why

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<v Speaker 8>you guys having me on to to be able to

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<v Speaker 8>talk about it, because you know, we're just I feel

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<v Speaker 8>like this could be something really amazing for you know,

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<v Speaker 8>not just the entertainment community, but for our in general

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<v Speaker 8>and recognizing how important you know, I know, art is

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<v Speaker 8>such a major part of my life and I'm so

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<v Speaker 8>grateful that I've been able to live a life of

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<v Speaker 8>being an artist, and I want to support people to

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<v Speaker 8>keep pursuing that dream, you know, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 8>that is the first thing that gets lost when we

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<v Speaker 8>talk about recovery or you know, needs or immediate necessities,

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<v Speaker 8>and you know, that is the core what it means

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<v Speaker 8>to be a human being, you know, is to explore

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<v Speaker 8>artistic endeavors and embrace that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so yeah, so yeah, the Instagram.

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<v Speaker 7>If anybody can follow us on our Instagram, that would

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<v Speaker 7>just be amazing and spread the word.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm trying to find and finding filmmakers.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what's been so amazing about this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>hearing from people that have applied online.

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<v Speaker 4>So if there's a filmmaker who wants to make.

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<v Speaker 7>A film or is affected by these fires, or knows

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<v Speaker 7>somebody who wants to make a film, like you know,

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<v Speaker 7>just grab somebody who lost their house and say like,

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<v Speaker 7>let's go make.

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<v Speaker 4>A movie like there.

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<v Speaker 7>Like it's all about building the community of people together

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<v Speaker 7>so that they can come together, because that's part of

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<v Speaker 7>the healing process.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if I remember correctly, one of your inspirations

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<v Speaker 2>is Tribeca too, right, the Tribeca Film Festival, which.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean that's how Tribeca started, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Response to nine to eleven. Right, it was a good

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<v Speaker 2>way to revive the city of New York and the

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<v Speaker 2>filmmaker community in New York, and it was de Niro

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<v Speaker 2>started it, and it's turned into one of the mainstay festivals.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like, it's an amazing festival. It launched

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<v Speaker 2>Shiloh and Me with our first short film, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was the greatest festival, so much fun.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be the.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the fires we were awful, obviously, and it

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<v Speaker 5>was just kind of the cherry on top of the

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<v Speaker 5>sandwich that has become the entertainment industry out in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's people don't realize because you know, you

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<v Speaker 5>sit down and you stream your stuff, you watch your stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's great.

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<v Speaker 9>But what people don't realize.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that none of that, like almost literally none of

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<v Speaker 5>that is done in Los Angeles anymore. It's all done

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<v Speaker 5>around the country or around the world, which again is

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<v Speaker 5>great for those states. But you see, you don't realize

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<v Speaker 5>the number of people that are out of work here,

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<v Speaker 5>from makeup artists to caterers to set decorators, to artists

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<v Speaker 5>to directors.

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<v Speaker 9>It's not just like, wow, the actors aren't working.

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<v Speaker 5>There's thousands of people out of work, and then the

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<v Speaker 5>fires hit and people are just going why are we

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<v Speaker 5>even here anymore trying to create in this city. And

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<v Speaker 5>then there's people like you Shadow WHI You're amazing, which

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<v Speaker 5>is like, nope, we can come back, let's go, let's

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<v Speaker 5>start again. And it's really really as amazing and just

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<v Speaker 5>the perfect name good its.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, just the perfect name for or it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>this is this is really incredible.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Instagram is also ashes to films, Yes, exactly, Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you can join the Instagram and I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, there's really.

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<v Speaker 3>No one that's excluded from this because you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to be a filmmaker, you don't have to be an

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<v Speaker 3>artist to still follow along. You're going to eventually want

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<v Speaker 3>to see the projects that come out of this. You're

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<v Speaker 3>going to want to know about the film festival.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of.

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<v Speaker 3>Course, if you've ever had a dream of making a

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<v Speaker 3>movie but have never done it, but have been impacted

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<v Speaker 3>by the fire, it what a fun idea for people

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<v Speaker 3>to go, well, yeah, I'd love to make a movie,

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<v Speaker 3>but I would have zero idea where to start. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in this community and I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>friends and we all have the same dream do something new.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you said, it's a before and an after moment

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<v Speaker 3>in your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>The most yeah, the most exciting thing, which we just

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<v Speaker 7>literally found out two days ago.

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<v Speaker 4>We're teaming up with the New York Film.

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<v Speaker 8>Academy, which I haven't had a chance, yes about this writer,

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<v Speaker 8>but through the Young Storytellers, which is an amazing program

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<v Speaker 8>where they do mentorships for young kids and then teach

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<v Speaker 8>them how to like do screenwriting and writers. Been a

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<v Speaker 8>mentor and yes, it's a fantastic program. But we're doing

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<v Speaker 8>a similar thing for young filmmakers. So these are kids

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<v Speaker 8>that are under eighteen who've been affected by the fires,

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<v Speaker 8>and we're going to be able to give them micro

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<v Speaker 8>grants and they'll have an entire intensive course where they're

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<v Speaker 8>going to get mentors with cameras, with locations. Like my

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<v Speaker 8>goal is going to build up like a roster of actors.

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<v Speaker 4>Like so if you guys want to be.

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<v Speaker 7>In a short film, donate a day because like I

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<v Speaker 7>would love to be able to see some young filmmakers

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<v Speaker 7>get to direct some actors and put there and then

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<v Speaker 7>we get a moment where they get to screen their films.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that's cool.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So that and that's super exciting, like because that's

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<v Speaker 7>just pure you know, wonderful, wonderfulness happening so amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Shiloh, I didn't think there'd be a day where

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say, Shiloh Strong the next Robert de Niro, But

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<v Speaker 3>here it is. Here's the moment, and I love that you,

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<v Speaker 3>like you just said to the fostering the next generation

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<v Speaker 3>of filmmakers, and yeah, so really wonderful ashes of films.

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<v Speaker 3>Check out the website, join the Instagram, we at pond

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<v Speaker 3>Meats World are friends of ashes to films. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 3>to donate a day to one of those short films.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even act anymore. I'm terrible, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>how how good do I need to be?

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<v Speaker 6>Really?

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<v Speaker 5>You know I used to say that every day on myself,

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<v Speaker 5>like how good I actually have enough?

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<v Speaker 4>Actor? I think, right exactly. You guys are wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being here.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything else before we let you go? Is

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<v Speaker 3>there anything else you want everyone to know? Or anywhere else?

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<v Speaker 3>Any other way people can support?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I mean, honestly, just follow us if you can

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<v Speaker 7>and spread it. I mean we're really just trying to

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<v Speaker 7>get get it out there because I feel like if

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<v Speaker 7>we can just get the momentum going.

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<v Speaker 4>If we can get past that tipping.

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<v Speaker 7>Point, I think there's something really beautiful and meaningful and

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<v Speaker 7>something that I think the world needs.

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<v Speaker 6>Right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We're pushing that. We're pushing that heavy ball up the

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<v Speaker 3>hill right now. We need to get it to the

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<v Speaker 3>top and roll it on to the other side.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly. Thank you guys, so much, so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Albert De Niro Junior. Thank you Shiloh, It's

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<v Speaker 1>always good to see you. By Wow, that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you writer, you and your brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a real community driven like spirit and ship in you.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is a little funny considering my parents like took

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<v Speaker 2>us off into the woods to directly I know.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, live in this, live on this property, and

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<v Speaker 1>don't leave.

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<v Speaker 9>You said it nicer than I did, Danielle.

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<v Speaker 5>I was going to say, you and your brother, Shiloh

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<v Speaker 5>can really make the rest of us look like Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Where I'm going with this.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like.

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<v Speaker 3>There you really you guys think really outside the box

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<v Speaker 3>in ways that just I would. I might have the idea,

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<v Speaker 3>like I might go, you know what I'd love to do,

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<v Speaker 3>and I say it, but the actual figuring it out

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<v Speaker 3>how to start a nonprofit? How like all of that

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<v Speaker 3>and the fact that your brother had money set aside

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<v Speaker 3>to make a short film like his own dream like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>make a short film. And then was like, you know, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I think this idea is better than that idea and

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<v Speaker 3>can help more people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take that money and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>do this instead. It's just so great.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's amazing, it really is really so are you

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<v Speaker 5>Are we all going to be in a short film

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<v Speaker 5>of some young student short film?

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<v Speaker 6>I think that'd be fair man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that'd be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get writer back on camera as ashes to films.

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<v Speaker 3>Please check it out, join the Instagram. Please welcome to

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<v Speaker 3>Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm.

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<v Speaker 9>Right strong, and I'm Wilfredell.

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<v Speaker 3>As we roll through our small mid season six break,

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<v Speaker 3>we are excited to bring back some of our favorite

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<v Speaker 3>past interviewees to pick a specific episode and talk about

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<v Speaker 3>both their memories of filming it and their perspective on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Decades later, we're still calling it.

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<v Speaker 3>Be kind rewind, just accept it, and to be honest,

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<v Speaker 3>some of it is a self serving undertaking and know

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<v Speaker 3>not to stretch out the podcast because we're almost done

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<v Speaker 3>with recaps, but thanks for reminding us about that. But

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<v Speaker 3>in actuality, it's an opportunity to reunite with people we

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<v Speaker 3>love because until the podcast, maybe we were fine only

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<v Speaker 3>seeing these people thirty years ago and calling it a day.

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<v Speaker 1>But now we're selfish.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to see our old pals more, and so

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<v Speaker 3>this week we'll be rejoined by a superstar Pod Meets

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<v Speaker 3>worlder to revisit season two, Episode one, back to School,

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<v Speaker 3>the invention of shock Drop, and his first ever job

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<v Speaker 3>in Hollywood. He was our beloved bully with a Heart,

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<v Speaker 3>Frankie Stacchino, but has gone on to appear on shows

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<v Speaker 3>like My Name Is Earl, Raising Hope and The Ranch,

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<v Speaker 3>and movies like Maul Rats, American History, X, Remember the Titans,

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<v Speaker 3>and Wolf of Wall Street. He's also become an inspiration

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<v Speaker 3>for thousands of people looking to create a more healthy lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 3>encouraging weight loss and fitness, a journey he's been on

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<v Speaker 3>since childhood. Welcome back to Pod Meets World. The One

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<v Speaker 3>the Only Ethan Sipple.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello, Hello, Hello guys. Sorry I'm just exing out of

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<v Speaker 6>my mail because it just made a ding, which is

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<v Speaker 6>super embarrassing, especially since they came on and recording and

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<v Speaker 6>it's like, what a.

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<v Speaker 1>Nightmare?

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<v Speaker 6>Guys. Yeah, the thing is, the thing is bad now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not as bad as the battery on a fire alarm.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I can't guarantee that won't happen. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I see the Sorry, you can curse, you can curse.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you just bleep?

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<v Speaker 4>It?

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<v Speaker 1>We silent and believe I feel like.

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<v Speaker 6>Where it could go off, that's a landmine. Guys, who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>I always know they're not going to go off during

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<v Speaker 3>recording because mine have never gone off unless it was

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<v Speaker 3>two o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 6>Danielle, you just said, wow, there's no traffic on the freeway.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what you've done to yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>You know it's you believe then maybe I'm jinx myself,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't really believe.

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<v Speaker 5>In to all the batteries, you actually haven't had smoke

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<v Speaker 5>detectors in years.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing, right, perfect, Ethan, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 3>for doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>We are thrilled to see you again.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for having me back. Guys. It means I didn't

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<v Speaker 6>blow it the last time.

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<v Speaker 1>You definitely did not. You definitely did not.

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<v Speaker 3>So you chose season two, episode one, back to School,

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<v Speaker 3>an episode that during our it's so funny that I

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<v Speaker 3>was going to call it our original rewatch, as if

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<v Speaker 3>we've started.

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<v Speaker 1>The podcast over again.

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<v Speaker 3>But in our first rewatch was very startling to the

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<v Speaker 3>three of us. We had the young, super naive childlike

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<v Speaker 3>quality of Season one had really been stripped away at

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning of this.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was high school. It was hardcore. There were

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<v Speaker 6>bullies with switchblades. It was like a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>There was making out, there was talks of body changes.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was like we.

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<v Speaker 3>Went from the warm blanket of childhood to like a

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<v Speaker 3>cold plunge, and so it really felt very shocking to us.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think now I'm gonna maybe it's just me,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's really grown on me.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it late episode.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a great episode. I loved it so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's so much going on, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>it all kind of works is crazy. It's like a

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<v Speaker 2>great episode and it's the I mean, it's what the

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<v Speaker 2>show was for the next like three years.

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<v Speaker 6>It was this show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. Yeah, it did so much.

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<v Speaker 6>We let me ask you a question, why do you

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<v Speaker 6>think they kind of changed Lane so much because it

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<v Speaker 6>was a big departure from season one.

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<v Speaker 1>Big departure.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, we heard, We've heard different things.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, one of the things we heard was just

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<v Speaker 5>a straight up network note, we want to age the

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<v Speaker 5>show up. We've also heard they brought in different you know,

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<v Speaker 5>this is when they brought in Bututman and bus Gang

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<v Speaker 5>and so they brought in different producers who also wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to age the show up.

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, we've heard a bunch of different versions. That's

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<v Speaker 9>what Lee Norris wasn't brought back.

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<v Speaker 5>But then we watched the episode in the first thing

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<v Speaker 5>you see essentially when they walk into the hallway as

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<v Speaker 5>two other nerds who look just like Lee. So where

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<v Speaker 5>we got kind of conflicting stories sometimes as to why

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<v Speaker 5>they they did what they did.

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<v Speaker 2>But we think it was smart, I mean funny because

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<v Speaker 2>I love the first season. But this is more sustainable,

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<v Speaker 2>right because we are going to grow, We are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be changing what seemed, you know, faster than they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of want us to. And as characters. Once we're

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<v Speaker 2>in this high school, you've got us there for five years.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got more, You've got way more, they say, they

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<v Speaker 2>say six or seven in.

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<v Speaker 6>The thing.

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<v Speaker 2>In elementary school or grades or middle school even which

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<v Speaker 2>is you know what kind of makes more sense as

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<v Speaker 2>far as like what's common in the rest of America, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like you go through middle school and then you enter

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<v Speaker 2>high school ninth grade. They threw us in there in

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<v Speaker 2>sixth grade and made it a big deal, like we're

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<v Speaker 2>in high school now, kept calling it high school. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's smart because then you have more time to like

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<v Speaker 2>develop these characters, let them live. It's it's a big move,

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<v Speaker 2>but it worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>Ethan, What are your overall thoughts on the episode?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I remember that was my first job.

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<v Speaker 1>It's job, so you look so comfortable.

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<v Speaker 6>Which, by the way, guys, you know, like okay, like

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<v Speaker 6>that's my first job and all, like you know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>thirty years ago. Is thirty years ago? I think initially

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<v Speaker 6>now thirty years right, we thought you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were so experienced because you were older than us. You

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<v Speaker 2>were like, oh, the guy who knows everything.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean and and and I felt like, don't mess

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<v Speaker 6>up because you have no idea really what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 6>You were in one high school play and you're kind

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<v Speaker 6>of attracted to this idea of acting and you went

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<v Speaker 6>to an acting class for a minute, but I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know what the hell right television, Like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>how to do anything, and I think, so I'm looking

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<v Speaker 6>at it entirely through that lens of like, look at

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<v Speaker 6>this guy who has no idea what's going on. I remember,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, hearing about tape night and how we're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>get maybe two shots at doing something, so really know

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<v Speaker 6>your stuff, hit your marks, and then trainer reshot me saying, well,

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<v Speaker 6>what do you call me? Gay? Like seventeen times we

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<v Speaker 6>did that over and over and over again, and I

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<v Speaker 6>thought like, I thought, like I'm ruining this because I

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<v Speaker 6>was getting notes every time, and I was like the

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<v Speaker 6>I could feel the audience's energy dissipating.

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<v Speaker 3>Really wow, in front of the audience, you did it

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<v Speaker 3>that many times over and it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was just your section.

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<v Speaker 2>They just wanted to keep doing that or.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if it. I mean, listen, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a big scene. We could have done the scene

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<v Speaker 2>a million times because yes.

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<v Speaker 6>But through the narcissistic glasses that it exists on my head.

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<v Speaker 5>It was all me everything, which all the other lights

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<v Speaker 5>it was just one.

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<v Speaker 1>We could go take a nap, get out.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, and in fact, you nobody was in the scene.

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 6>It was just me and trainer and trainers the nicest

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:16.160
<v Speaker 6>guy but in the nicest way. He was like saying,

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:17.360
<v Speaker 6>like stop up.

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:18.360
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't at all.

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<v Speaker 6>He was such a sweetheart, but like, yeah, I thought so, no,

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<v Speaker 6>no he did not know.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows that I know, but I don't remember having

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<v Speaker 2>to do this. But like, all I remember is you

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<v Speaker 2>being a completely professional and everybody knowing it and everybody being.

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<v Speaker 6>Like wow ethan actor, Like yeah, I really. I remember

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 6>going like we're gonna do this twice at the most,

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 6>like so don't mess up, and then on like this

0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.880
<v Speaker 6>fifteenth time, I was like I'm finished.

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:49.600
<v Speaker 4>Like I don't coming back.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Act, you're just so insecure to hear just how insecure

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 5>we all are all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, it's the worst, dude, it's the worst. Every

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 6>job ob is my last job. That was my first

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 6>and last job, and I can't believe I survived it.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, have you been fired before? Like, have you lost

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 2>a job?

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:12.640
<v Speaker 6>Like I've never been fired. There was one pretty good

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 6>There was a pilot that I came in to replace

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 6>somebody on Okay, and they shot the pilot screened the

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 6>test of the pilot and were like, we need to

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:27.400
<v Speaker 6>replace this guy.

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<v Speaker 9>And then they replaced you.

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:35.159
<v Speaker 6>Well, they didn't. They offered, they offered to replace me,

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 6>They offered my role. They were like, let's reshoot it

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 6>again for the third time, and let's get Rob Riggle

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 6>to play Ethan's role. And then he ultimately turned it

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 6>down and then the whole show went away. Oh geez,

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.919
<v Speaker 6>So I mean like kind of almost fired.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel like most actors, especially ones at

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 2>work for thirty years, you know, get fired at some

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 2>point because it's like it's so often not about you,

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, and listen to sometimes.

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<v Speaker 6>I had Blake, who was the seasoned pro veteran that

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 6>that I like felt comfortable talking to because we were

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 6>like kind of on the same level and we had

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.360
<v Speaker 6>seen so many scenes together, and he was like, oh,

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 6>people get fired all the time. He told me. He

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 6>was like, you know, I don't want to say names,

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 6>but so and so this kid who's around our age,

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 6>who you know, was like well thought of, was like

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:32.120
<v Speaker 6>walked after a after a network run through one day,

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 6>he walked into his trailer, had a stack of thirteen

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 6>checks and was gone, yeah, and I was like, that

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 6>doesn't sound so bad. It's not the worst, but yeh,

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 6>being tired sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I I've now as a director, I've had to be

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side of it.

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<v Speaker 9>She had to fire somebody.

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.639
<v Speaker 3>I have never fired anybody, because it's not as a

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 3>director of TV.

0:25:57.960 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 1>It's the producer's job.

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<v Speaker 3>But I have had to be involved in the conversations

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.160
<v Speaker 3>where they're like, wasn't a great table read?

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>What are we going to do? And it's like, let

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>me have a day, let me take you know, let

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>me have this day, let me see.

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Tell me what you're looking for, you know, show me

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.919
<v Speaker 3>what you liked about the audition tape. Show tell me

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 3>what it is that you're looking because you know, when

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 3>as the director, when I sit down at a table

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 3>read and somebody's like really big and broad and super

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:24.439
<v Speaker 3>over the top, I think, oh, that's why they cast them.

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>They must have loved that. And then afterward they're like,

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.440
<v Speaker 1>what was that? And I'm like, oh, wait, well.

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 3>How is this different? So I need you to tell

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 3>me then what are you looking for? If that wasn't it,

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 3>what are you looking for? And then still, sometimes you know,

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 3>you get you get a day of rehearsal and the

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 3>producer see it and they go, Nope, it's not what

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 3>I want or was.

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<v Speaker 2>So interesting because like the example that you just gave,

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 2>like you know, is one of those things that I

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>feel like if an inexperienced producer might just see a

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 2>bad performance be like, oh my god, it's over, it's over.

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 2>We can't. But a director, a good producer, a good

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 2>director can see a performance and like an the example

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 2>you gave, if somebody's too big, that's actually a good problem,

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>that's get it back. If somebody is too small, that's

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.439
<v Speaker 2>a scarier problem because then you're like they might not commit,

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 2>they might not have it in them to even show,

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, go for it. And that's what like, so

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.199
<v Speaker 2>it's like different problems that you have to gauge and

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>be like this person's never going to get there, maybe

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 2>whereas this person we can probably get them there, you know,

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 2>and like you have to figure out what that what that.

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 5>We were also conditioned after season one that nobody's job

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 5>was safe.

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 9>I mean we just saw people fired every week.

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 3>I was there having replaced somebody to replace somebody fired.

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, we were just we we there was a

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 5>third best friend for five episodes in a row. They

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 5>kept trying it and trying, and the kid would make

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 5>it as far as like, wow, they almost made it

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 5>to the second run.

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Through, and then the fact that Lee didn't come back,

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 2>and then starting the season with somebody who we considered

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 2>part of our cohort, and it was like, oh, it's

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:51.959
<v Speaker 2>just as easily happened to anyone of them.

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's what a business to get into.

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, right, in all fairness, if you can't handle being

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 5>fired by eleven, what good are you?

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 6>Right, that's the lesson we all know.

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what we're taking away from this. Ethan.

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 3>You have since, of course, gone on to have a

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 3>very successful career.

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>You've worked with some of the best directors.

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 3>You are as you mentioned, the greenest green you could

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 3>possibly be in this episode, did you like what do

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 3>you remember any specific notes you were given, either by

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:32.119
<v Speaker 3>David Trainer or by Michael, Like, was there any specific

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 3>performance thing you felt like they were trying to get

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 3>out of you?

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 6>Well, I remember at the first run through, and I'm

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 6>trying to think back on how it worked that first episode,

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 6>but because at some point there was like a table

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 6>read and then no run through and then everybody went home.

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 6>Rights later the.

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 3>First day of the week, Friday, we got there, do

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 3>a table read, have a light little rehearsal during the day,

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 3>and then go home and on Monday come back in

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 3>for another full rehearsal and then a producer run through.

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>But actually, I think what you've been saying is that

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 2>by like season three, we didn't even do Friday rehearsal.

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 6>It was later.

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 9>We went as a team and Friday, yet.

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 6>There was rehearsal after the table reader. Correct, yes, okay,

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 6>So I remember the line that I had that got

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 6>the biggest laugh was what are you saying I'm gay?

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.479
<v Speaker 6>It's so non sequitur, it's so ridiculous, and it's so

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 6>spoke to what I thought Frankie was dealing with internally

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 6>that he then is like, that's his jab, like you know,

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 6>because this is before we know about poetry or anything

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 6>like that, which became very interesting. But like I got

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 6>to play with all of this internal stuff because of

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 6>that line. And in the very first rehearsal, David Traynor

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 6>was like, that'll be gone. That line's going to be gone,

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 6>and I was like, wait why, and he was like,

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 6>somebody will take offense to that line, that line is

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.239
<v Speaker 6>going to be gone, and I was like, I was

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 6>like kind of devastated because that line I felt communicated

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 6>the most pathos about this character. Yeah, and and then

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 6>I just kept waiting, you know, I didn't know again,

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 6>I didn't know how anything worked. So, uh, Friday night

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 6>or Saturday, when I woke up to a Manila envelope

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 6>with rewrites, I was like, Oh, stuff is gonna change.

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 6>And I looked through it and that was the line

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 6>and that line hadn't been gone. But I kept kind

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 6>of waiting, like somebody's gonna be bummed out about this

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 6>and take this line out, and I then have to

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 6>figure out how to communicate what I thought that line

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 6>was communicating without those words. So I was really stressed.

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 6>And then even during the uh, the the taping, they

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 6>were changing stuff and I was like, Oh, these guys

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 6>are not quitting. Like what we've we've done. This is

0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 6>like the eighth iteration of tweaks and changes and whole

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:05.959
<v Speaker 6>new speeches and monologues, and like jokes are gone and

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 6>stuff isn't and that line is still there. And I

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 6>felt unsafe. And then on the seventeenth time of doing

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 6>that scene, I was like, just okay, kill the line.

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 6>Is it that line that's ruining it? Is that bringing

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 6>everybody down, Like I just was so antsy about everything.

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 2>So amazing that because it's actually that line and your

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 2>delivery that is your job security. Because it's a joke.

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 2>The way it's written is like I think they meant

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 2>it as like just a big joke turn like the

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 2>big scary guy is actually worried that he's gay. Aha,

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>But because you played it with such cathos and such

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 2>confusion and such commitment, it was like, oh, there's something

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 2>actually going on with that was the most meaningful. Yeah,

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>it's so it's you see like such honest fragility and

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 2>like openness in your character that you're like, there's more

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>going on there and I want to know everything. So

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 2>the joke became why Frankie stuck around because of your delivery.

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no way they could cut that line.

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing that you had any any insecurity about.

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.719
<v Speaker 6>It, because it's like, well, I just again I didn't

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 6>know how anything. So when line started coming and going,

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.959
<v Speaker 6>I was like, nothing is safe. My job is not safe.

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 6>I can be fired, they can take wasn't wrong?

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 2>That line could have been cut just just using the

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 2>word gay was on a kids show, like you know

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 2>at that time was like WHOA, well you don't want

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>to go there, so.

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't think you can do it today, Like

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 6>now you can't. You can't sell that line, not as

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 6>a joke. No on on My name is Earl. We

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 6>had a line that that uh one of the UH

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 6>producers like fought with the network about and then ultimately

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 6>it got to stay. Also couldn't stay, but it it

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 6>went to like again my character's naivete and sweetness, where

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 6>We're going to a carnival and Earle says like, like

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 6>that carnival, it's a bunch of like criminals and I'm like,

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 6>I don't know. They've got the world's tallest midget at

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 6>that carnival. And Earl says like, Earl's like that's just

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 6>the short guy. And I'm like, I don't know, Earl,

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 6>he's pretty tall, you know. Like I'm not doing the

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 6>joke justice, but it's not demeaning to that just the

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 6>concept says more about what I'm thinking about myself than

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 6>trying to demean somebody. And I felt that way about

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 6>the what do you what do you call me Galen Like.

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 6>It's not putting a negative flare on anybody else, it's

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 6>literally my own insecurity of like, I've got a lot

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 6>going on inside and are you are you seeing it? Yeah?

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 6>Did you?

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Did you spot it?

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I exposed something?

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, that just reminds me of that.

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 5>That's the same with the Simpsons line where he calls

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 5>most Tavaris his most tavern home of the world's smallest

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 5>large screen TV.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's that same kind of joke.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, speaking of notes, we never I don't think we've

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<v Speaker 3>ever directly asked somebody this, But do you remember your

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 3>first post run through note session with Michael?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I feel like they're a little bit of

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<v Speaker 6>a blur, but I do remember Michael talking to me

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 6>and and I remember just, you know, like whoa, the

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 6>attention is on me, and he's such like a funny, nice,

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 6>yet severe kind of guy all at the same time,

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 6>like amiable and yet like would hit you with something,

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 6>not in a mean way, but like powerful, you know.

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 6>So I don't remember. That's one of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Best, the best descriptions of Michael I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, he was, I mean, he was, he was.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 5>He certainly commanded respect and so there was that moment

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 5>we talked about the actor. All the other lights being

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 5>shut off on the stage and the spotlights on you.

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 6>That's what it was like.

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 5>In a note session, you'd hear your name or you'd

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<v Speaker 5>see The thing I remember was you would come to

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 5>a scene you were in and you'd look down at

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 5>the page during a note session and be like, all right,

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 5>I have a line seven lines from now. I wonder

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 5>if Michael's going to say my name and call out

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 5>whatever the line was, and you'd start to feel that anxiety.

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 5>It would kid, it would and then if he went

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 5>past it and it's like oh okay, like he didn't

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 5>say my name, he didn't you have him.

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 6>You'd have a pause and you'd know like, well, three

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 6>pages from now, it's going to happen again, exactly.

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>It was, man, you were on your toes the entire time.

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.760
<v Speaker 5>And I was always amazed at the number of guest stars,

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, one shot actors that would come up to

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 5>us after the note session.

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 9>And go is it like that? After every run through?

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 5>It was something they had never experienced before on any

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 5>other show, Like wait, do you really sit there for

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 5>an hour?

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:37.879
<v Speaker 9>An hour and a half and he goes through every line.

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 9>It's like yep, every day And.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like he was my first job too.

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Other than you know, I had done some guest spots

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 3>on Full House, but it was certainly my and I.

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>So I just thought, Wow, this is how they do

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 1>this is how every show does it. I didn't know.

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know any different.

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:54.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, it's it amazes me because the imagine

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 6>the amount of like care that everybody had. Who was

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 6>the stage manager it was at gal Lynn McCracken was

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 6>so awesome, yeah, and so maternal and like caring and

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 6>loving and like so I never there was never a

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 6>point where I felt like I didn't know where to

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 6>go because she'd always give me the heads up and

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 6>I was like, thank God for her. And I really

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:20.720
<v Speaker 6>felt like she's doing this because she knows I don't.

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 6>I have no idea what's going on. And then cut

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 6>to you know, thirty years later, where they're still treating

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 6>me the exact same way as though, you know, like

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 6>here's where the is and.

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 9>Yes, exactly, this is your dressing actors.

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 6>Right, And I really thought it was her recognizing looking

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 6>out for you and so and and you know, it

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 6>definitely waned once i'd been there for a while, it

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 6>wasn't as hardcore. But then on my very next job,

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh, wait, are you guys gonna always

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.760
<v Speaker 6>treat me like a child, Like you don't really need

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 6>this anymore? You know?

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:20.800
<v Speaker 3>My gosh, it's so true. You debut here as Frankie Stacchino,

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.720
<v Speaker 3>the muscle of the John Adams High School system of bullies,

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 3>and you're paired with your mouthpiece, Blake Senate as Joey

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 3>the Rat. Do you remember feeling chemistry with Blake right away?

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 6>Yes, we kind of bonded, but it was like you know,

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 6>two guys who are in prison and assigned to the

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 6>same cell, you know what I mean. Like it was

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 6>just kind of like, well, you and I are in

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 6>scenes together, Huh, I'm brand new. You've got like I'm

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 6>just going to leach on to you and follow your

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 6>lead and whatever you do. And you know, it got

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 6>a little dangerous because I've feel like his sense of

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:04.439
<v Speaker 6>humor was was riskier than mine, and so I kind

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 6>of fell into like, Okay, that's the tone, that's what

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 6>you do, and you know, which is fine for a

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 6>guy who knows what he's doing and has been doing

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:16.439
<v Speaker 6>it for years, but for a guy who was brand new.

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 6>I was also a little bit scared and trepidaceous, like

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 6>are we allowed to make that joke? Is that too crass?

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 6>There's kids, weird kids, like what are we doing here?

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 6>You know? But yeah, that he was really my kind

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 6>of touch point. Yeah, most of my experience first.

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Week so funny.

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 3>And when we talked to him about it, you know,

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:45.760
<v Speaker 3>finding out that so much of his stuff was literally

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:49.359
<v Speaker 3>just like I need I'm gonna do anything I can

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 3>to book this job.

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't care about the job, I don't care about

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 3>any I'm just and I'm gonna so I'm just gonna

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 3>try something.

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw something out there.

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 3>And and it was sticking often enough that he was

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 3>working regularly early and I think, yeah, he just got

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:03.919
<v Speaker 3>to a point where like, the more risks I take,

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 3>the better things turn out. So yeah, his sense of

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 3>humor really cracks me up. Was the dry, sarcastic delivery

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 3>something that reflected you in real life or is that

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 3>just something that came up for this character and has

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of stuck around with you ever since?

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 6>No, No, that felt very natural to me. Okay, I

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 6>like that, you know. Like talking earlier, Rider was saying,

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 6>like the big you can turn it down, but the

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.800
<v Speaker 6>small it's hard to turn up. And I think that

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 6>I relate to that so much because a lot of

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 6>my life is spent in fear, and I am so

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 6>unwilling sometimes to like go bold, So I will play

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 6>to subtlety more because it feels safer, which is not

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 6>a great thing to admit, you know what I mean. Like,

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 6>I recognize this is a flaw of mine that I

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 6>work on, but but I think that that's a big

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 6>part of it is that, like I, you know, I

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 6>have a bunch of stuff I'm working through mentally, and

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:06.720
<v Speaker 6>so if I can find a way to do it small,

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 6>I would much rather do it small.

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 3>Okay, looking at this episode now, with all the experience

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 3>that you have thirty years, thirty plus years of experience,

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 3>did you have any notes for young Ethan?

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 6>Wow, I mean no, I watched it with grace. I'm

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 6>trying very hard to give myself grace, you know, I do.

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 9>Danielle have several Danielle has several notes.

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:36.439
<v Speaker 6>I would love I would love you, you know, I went.

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 6>I don't tend to watch stuff that I'm in and

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, like even like now, the whole routine is

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 6>like if there's like a really good movie you want

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 6>to do that, they're not calling you to say, like

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 6>be be in our movie. You have to send them

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 6>a tape like yeah, that's kind of the landscape of

0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 6>acting right now. I can't even bring myself to watch those,

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 6>so I wind up sending in ten versions of something,

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 6>which is which is not great for my agents who

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 6>have to then they pass on. Yeah, right, But so

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 6>like watching it, I kind of wanted to go like,

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 6>this is from a long time ago. There there is

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 6>no saving the car wreck. If I watch it and

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 6>perceive this to be a trained derailment and decapitations of

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:34.359
<v Speaker 6>human beings, like they're dead, there is no saving them.

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 6>I just have to be I have to bear witness

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 6>and I have to give grace to the to what

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm watching because, you know, beyond everything, it means something

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 6>to people, Like so many people love this show. It

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 6>astonishes me to this day how many people watch this

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 6>show how and it and it meant something profound to them?

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean? This is not like this

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 6>is not lightlifting, This is like, this is an impact

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 6>on many people's lives, so I have to give grace

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.839
<v Speaker 6>to those people too because it's meaningful for them. So

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm not watching it critically, right.

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 5>That's one of the things we, you know, struggle with

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 5>week by week is because we do the same thing

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 5>where it's kind of like, Okay, we have to balance

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 5>this idea that it was important to people, it mattered,

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 5>it was thirty years ago. Some of the jokes, some

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 5>of the stuff is going to be outdated. It's just

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 5>the way it is. But it's also as actors, we

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 5>look back and we're critical of ourselves and that's what

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 5>we do, and that tends to then be you know,

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 5>we take what we do in our regular lives and

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 5>we then apply it to the past as if it's

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 5>going to help. So, you know, Danielle's a director, She's

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 5>going to watch the show now maybe through the eyes

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 5>of a director. Writer's a writer, he's going to say,

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 5>why did they do this with the story and that.

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:51.240
<v Speaker 9>So we're constantly going.

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 5>Well, we have to watch it as the people we are,

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:54.800
<v Speaker 5>but at the same time, we also have to remember

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:56.799
<v Speaker 5>what it was, what the time was, and that could

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:58.439
<v Speaker 5>be a struggle. I mean, there's times where I will

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 5>listen back to a podcast we've done that even the show.

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 9>I'll listen back to a podcast we've done and be like, damn,

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:06.320
<v Speaker 9>we tore that apart and maybe we shouldn't.

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:08.760
<v Speaker 5>And the episode you picked is kind of a perfect

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 5>example because straight from the end of season one right

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 5>into season two, we didn't take a break. We called

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 5>it dropshock. It was just watching two different shows. But

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 5>now going back and looking at this episode again, this

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:23.759
<v Speaker 5>was a great episode of Boy Meets World. I mean,

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 5>I mean, no, I was terrible, but but again I

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 5>go back, though you're god.

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Like, by season three, you were just a completely different actor. Wells,

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 2>here's one of the reasons why young will like trying

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 2>to figuring it out, figuring it out, and it's like

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 2>you're trying so many different things, but it's like you're

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 2>just not comfortable in a way, like well by season

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess maybe it was halfway through this season through

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.280
<v Speaker 2>season two somewhere starting.

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 5>But it's also exactly what Ethan said before, where he's

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 5>like this one line in the script was the pathos

0:43:59.440 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 5>for the.

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:01.959
<v Speaker 9>Care None of that never came into my head.

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 5>I was sitting there going like, oh, if I go

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 5>if I say, Cory this loud, maybe someone will laugh

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 5>and my hair look good.

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 9>Like That's as far as I took it.

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:12.280
<v Speaker 1>It was also a literal.

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.399
<v Speaker 3>You know, we've learned a lot about young Will over

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 3>the years of knowing him and certainly of doing this podcast.

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 3>This was Will's every day was Will's dream coming true. Yeah,

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 3>and we all had that underlying fear that at any

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 3>second this could get taken away for any number of reasons.

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 3>We get replaced, we get fired, the show gets canceled,

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 3>and an episode doesn't go well, Michael doesn't like us,

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 3>the director has a hard time, whatever the reason is.

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:43.360
<v Speaker 3>And every day Will was just like, how do I

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 3>how do I make sure that my every day I

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 3>get to come back tomorrow?

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 5>Well?

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Can I get Yes?

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 6>I have to do to make sure.

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 5>I mean, my brother's the joke my brothers would say

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 5>to me when I would go home first season was

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 5>they're gonna be Chucky Cunningham. You.

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 9>They're going to Chucky Cunningham.

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 5>You.

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:56.400
<v Speaker 9>And it's like again for people that you don't know

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 9>what that is.

0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 5>Richie Cunningham on Happy Days had an older brother who

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 5>one day he grabbed a basketball, walked upstairs and you

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 5>never saw him again, so that was their joke for me,

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:05.760
<v Speaker 5>and in my head.

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 9>It was like this is there, this could go, this

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:09.799
<v Speaker 9>could go, and I had already replaced another Eric.

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 5>And then it was the you guys come in, and

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 5>the three of you were so good and so just

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:19.360
<v Speaker 5>natural and it worked. And the dynamic between Corey and

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 5>then the bullies because also when they cast Danny, who's

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 5>still to this day, you turn it on, you go,

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 5>that guy's thirty five, so he might not have been,

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 5>but the idea that you put him next to Corey

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 5>and they're both in the same school is so dynamic.

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 5>And then you put you and Joey next to the

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 5>and you kind of can start going like, yeah, you

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 5>could phase Eric out, it wouldn't might not.

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Be that big if you didn't have ye Honestly, I

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 2>think so you guys became the bet story because you

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 2>and Bill had such chemistry as characters. If you didn't

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 2>find that gone to dude. Yep, no, I agree, because

0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 2>it's yeah, but.

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 6>You have kind of thing seems utterly insane to me

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 6>to put children through, right, doesn't it not.

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 2>It's like a show Russian Roulette sort of like yeah,

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I was saying to somebody today, like, I just

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 6>thank god every day none of my kids are interested

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 6>in the otay because it's just it's just insane. Yeah.

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 3>I think about when we were in contract negotiations for Topanga,

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 3>when I was like, Okay, the big excuse for why

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 3>they could never pay me the same as any of

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:33.399
<v Speaker 3>the other characters on the show was well, we weren't

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 3>intending on Topega being a regular character, And by the

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 3>time we got to season four, it was like, well

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:40.919
<v Speaker 3>you should know by now, right, she's been involved since

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 3>episode four. It's now season four, and I still remember

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.799
<v Speaker 3>my dad and Judy Savage doing my contract negotiations and

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 3>me just looking at my dad and Judy and saying,

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Care what they pay me.

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 3>If you lose this job for me, I will never

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.799
<v Speaker 3>forgive you. And yet of course they need to do

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 3>right by me, like they can't have me be taken

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 3>advantage of. I just can't imagine. I truly like having

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 3>kids now of my own. I cannot imagine.

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 5>Well, I told you my dad, my dad turning down

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 5>saved by the bell without telling me what the new

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:14.360
<v Speaker 5>class when I was fifteen, had he not done that,

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 5>I never would have.

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 9>Gotten boy Me's world. I'm still pissed my dad turning

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 9>down Save without Unforgivable, Still like, are you kidding me?

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 6>What are you doing?

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 5>So it's a crazy Lord of the Flies world that

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.720
<v Speaker 5>you love when you're in, but when you do step

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:31.160
<v Speaker 5>back and you kind of look at it, you get

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 5>out of the bubble and you look at it, it's insane.

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's crazy.

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 6>It's a real crazy life to live.

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:40.359
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it is, man, wow.

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 6>But the highs are very high, oh yeah, when it's

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 6>working the lows.

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:48.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm also just I'm looking at my son, who's he's

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 2>just such an actor.

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, he's ten.

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Years old and he sings like crazy. He's so talented

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 2>and he loves it. It's like what am I supposed to?

0:47:57.640 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, you're not going to go on camera, dude?

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 2>But he's like why not? And I'm like, you know,

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how long I can hold him if

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 2>he's doing theater, you know he's doing.

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 6>Have you even have you watched what Ethan Hawk talks

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:12.879
<v Speaker 6>about his kids wanting to It's it's incredible. He sat

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 6>them down and he said, if if this is what

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 6>you want to do, and you can't visualize yourself happily

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:28.799
<v Speaker 6>teaching theater at a high school in when you're thirty five.

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:30.960
<v Speaker 6>Don't do it. It's the only act. If you can't

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 6>not act, not exactly and in any context, in any context. God,

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:38.839
<v Speaker 6>And he's so right. It's such a great thing.

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it is weird. I mean, like because I

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 2>think that's like what my parents saw in me and

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 2>my brother. You know, it's just like we had We

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:47.880
<v Speaker 2>just loved it. We just had this passion and it

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 2>was so natural to us. And I'm seeing it in

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 2>my son. And it's like, I don't want to crush that, right,

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 2>So I can't be too negative, but I also want

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 2>to be realistic. It's very difficult, it is well, so Ethan,

0:48:57.960 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I have a question then, going back to what we

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 2>were talking about, when when you start as a young actor,

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 2>can you remember some of the best advice you ever

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:09.280
<v Speaker 2>got when you were first really starting out in the industry, Show.

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:12.879
<v Speaker 6>Up on time, know your lines. Those are the two

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 6>like you know, and Tom Hanks said something that I

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 6>really appreciated, where it was that plus have an idea

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.399
<v Speaker 6>which I really like, and I think it's so much

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 6>bolder than what but for forever. Somebody just said to me,

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:29.919
<v Speaker 6>you can't go wrong if you show up on time

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 6>and know your lines. And like I will say, when

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 6>I think of the rockiest moments in my career, and

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 6>I don't mean rocky as in, like Mike, there's a

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:46.320
<v Speaker 6>precariousness about my career, but like about my behavior. I

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 6>was letting those things slip. I was like, you know,

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 6>running lines with a script supervisor right before shooting something,

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 6>right which I think, like, that's not who I want

0:49:58.239 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 6>to be as a person.

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:02.479
<v Speaker 1>You know, why was that happening at that time?

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:07.279
<v Speaker 6>Just through sheer laziness, you know, and interrationalization, Like I

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 6>got to learn eight pages a day and then I'm shooting,

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 6>and then I go home and I'm learning eight more pages,

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 6>and like at some point it's like, well, I can

0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 6>learn this in five minutes with the script supervisor while

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 6>they're setting up after we rehearsed, and I'm rehearsing with sides,

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 6>and I just you know, later through some recovery stuff,

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh, I spotted that that was just

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 6>I should That's not healthy for me to do, you know,

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 6>because I suddenly other stuff is slipping in my life.

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 6>That otherwise I would be more responsible for and like

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:42.919
<v Speaker 6>tighten it up. But I like Tom Hanks's advice where

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:46.400
<v Speaker 6>it's like do those things and then have some idea

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:49.840
<v Speaker 6>look at the scene and bring something to it. You know, Yeah,

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 6>I know.

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:52.959
<v Speaker 3>I love when you said if that line got cut,

0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 3>you were going to have to figure out another way

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 3>to show internal struggle, and like as well mentioned, uh,

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know any of that.

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:01.239
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 6>Well, I literally was looking at beats because one of

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 6>the things I noticed, Look, this might that week might

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 6>have been the most attention I ever paid to the

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 6>process of how something worked. And so something I noticed

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:23.240
<v Speaker 6>was lines were changing, but broadly beats were not changing.

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:26.440
<v Speaker 6>There was the rhythm and a pace, and the the

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:29.880
<v Speaker 6>arcs of scenes were not transforming all that much. And

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 6>so I was literally like, Okay, I have no idea

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:36.120
<v Speaker 6>if this goes what will come in its place? So

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:40.360
<v Speaker 6>I can't depend on the words to bring this emotion

0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 6>that I'm feeling is necessary for me that completes the

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:47.840
<v Speaker 6>character in the way I see him. So it was

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 6>very important to me, and I was trying to find

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:54.719
<v Speaker 6>where in here, minus the words, I can put that

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 6>just so that I get it out. You know it

0:51:58.160 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 6>was a tricky it was a tricky first one.

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 5>But the idea that you're doing that on your first

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:04.360
<v Speaker 5>job ever, I think I figured that out.

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 9>Like a month ago, and so it's just to me,

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 9>but it just it does.

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 5>It shows I mean not to sound like I'm kissing

0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:13.360
<v Speaker 5>your ass, but it just shows people are working on

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:16.360
<v Speaker 5>different levels, you know, when it comes to this industry,

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 5>and you know, this was my fortieth job. I've been

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 5>working since I was ten, and I was nowhere near

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 5>that cognizant of the craft as you were in your

0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:27.879
<v Speaker 5>first week.

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:29.720
<v Speaker 6>And it's just it's just shows some.

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:32.720
<v Speaker 9>People are just working on a different level. It's really amazing.

0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:33.360
<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean I.

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Look back and you know, because you know, my wife

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 2>is an actor and when we started dating, like I

0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:43.959
<v Speaker 2>was twenty six or twenty seven, and it was so

0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:46.879
<v Speaker 2>it was such a revelation for me to engage with

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:50.520
<v Speaker 2>her about acting because I was like, oh, you take

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 2>this seriously in a way that I've always rejected. And

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:55.720
<v Speaker 2>what I realized is like I had this young actor

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:57.880
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing of like, well, I just show up

0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:59.360
<v Speaker 2>and do It's so easy. I don't even think about it.

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to I don't have to work on this,

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 2>And it was like such a defense mechanism, you know.

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like there was a culture, you know,

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:08.280
<v Speaker 2>back then, like on the set of Boy Meets World especially,

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 2>there was a culture of like, don't take acting too seriously,

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 2>don't take yourself too seriously, which is healthy in its

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.840
<v Speaker 2>own way, right, Like there are actors who get obsessive

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 2>and to you know, but I think for me, like

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I totally just threw my arms up and was like, well,

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I just show up and do this thing so I

0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:24.560
<v Speaker 2>don't have to think about it, and like, no, I

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 2>actually you know. And when I dove into it, I

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 2>started doing the work of like taking acting classes again,

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:30.839
<v Speaker 2>and like thinking about it, I was like, wow, this

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:32.840
<v Speaker 2>is a lot of work. I don't I'm not you know,

0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:35.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm not built for this lifestyle. I could not

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:37.439
<v Speaker 2>act and be happy, you know. So it was like, great,

0:53:37.480 --> 0:53:38.880
<v Speaker 2>then I have to go do it, you know. I

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 2>want to be around actors. But man, yeah, Like but

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 2>it's so interesting that that back then, I feel like

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.320
<v Speaker 2>we had a culture like if we had taken ourselves

0:53:47.360 --> 0:53:49.839
<v Speaker 2>too seriously, we would have teased one another, don't you think,

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:51.399
<v Speaker 2>will Like there was a level of.

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:55.280
<v Speaker 6>Like, yes, so listen this stuff I was thinking about

0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:57.520
<v Speaker 6>and the notes I was keeping in the script that

0:53:57.600 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 6>I never took out of my trailer by the way,

0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 6>Like you know, I would never I would never have

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:06.720
<v Speaker 6>talked to Blake about this for the reasons you're talking about,

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:09.759
<v Speaker 6>and not that I'm sure he would have made fun

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:13.440
<v Speaker 6>of me, but I felt very much that the amount

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:16.239
<v Speaker 6>of thought I was putting into it was embarrassing, so

0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:19.320
<v Speaker 6>I would not. I would never have said interesting to somebody.

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 6>I think that I think you're spot on. I don't

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:24.800
<v Speaker 6>think it was just the set of Boy Meets World,

0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:28.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, because I think there's also like you know,

0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:31.080
<v Speaker 6>like you think about Brando, or you think about even

0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:33.719
<v Speaker 6>like Daniel day Lewis, or like a method actor, and

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:37.280
<v Speaker 6>it's like, okay, yeah, for my left foot, you gotta

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:40.560
<v Speaker 6>do X, Y and Z. But for Boy meets World,

0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:43.799
<v Speaker 6>doing X, Y and Z is embarrassing, Like you just

0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 6>hit the joke. That job was my left foot. It

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 6>was as important to me as any anything else. But

0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:56.359
<v Speaker 6>I think that I wouldn't have openly said that, right.

0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 5>That's why when you talk about people like Daniel d

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 5>Lewis or things you you see to give to give

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 5>some flowers to sitcom and how difficult it can be.

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:08.480
<v Speaker 5>You see shows like Friends or Seinfeld or any of

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:10.839
<v Speaker 5>these big shows that will bring big movie stars on

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:12.239
<v Speaker 5>that can't.

0:55:11.920 --> 0:55:13.240
<v Speaker 9>Do the three camera.

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:16.239
<v Speaker 5>It's just it's a different rhythm and and so you'll

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:19.279
<v Speaker 5>get huge actors where it's like, Okay, yeah, man, you're

0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna win five Academy Awards, But in front of

0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 5>an audience sitcom, it's a totally different beast and you

0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:26.399
<v Speaker 5>just you didn't figure it out.

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 6>So there's a lyricism to it, there is. It's a music.

0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:33.360
<v Speaker 6>If you cannot find that harmony, it's gonna suck.

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:48.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, speaking of not wanting to share things

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:52.799
<v Speaker 3>out of embarrassment, you had much cooler friends than any

0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 3>of us had in the nineties, and we.

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:57.440
<v Speaker 9>Only have each other. You're already winning.

0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember did any of your friends at the

0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:03.319
<v Speaker 3>time think Boy Meets World was corny or like that?

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:06.320
<v Speaker 1>The fact that you were even doing that job was corny.

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:10.160
<v Speaker 6>No, just having a job was cool. Okay, just having

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:14.360
<v Speaker 6>just being gamefully employed was cool. On every single level.

0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:19.960
<v Speaker 6>There was no you know, there's still no like you know,

0:56:20.080 --> 0:56:22.400
<v Speaker 6>you got a friend who's going to get nominated for

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:26.000
<v Speaker 6>an Academy Award and I have a show on Amazon,

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean. Like, they're only like, that's

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:31.840
<v Speaker 6>great that you're working, you know, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, exactly. It's crazy that even I mean now

0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:37.719
<v Speaker 1>more so than ever. Oh you have a job.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, thank god you have a job. You have a

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:43.000
<v Speaker 6>story about you. Yeah.

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh good, you're working. That's great. I know, no matter what,

0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 3>it is so great. Wanted to get your opinion on

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:51.799
<v Speaker 3>the line. We talked about it a lot when we

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 3>watched the episode the first time around. Wanted to get

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:58.759
<v Speaker 3>when Sean says to Tapanga, summer was very good to you.

0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:02.799
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, awkward. That's another one that they could have lost.

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, just checking you out as you walk ahead of us.

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like, uh so it was cringey for you too.

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 3>I thought maybe it was just because we were too inside,

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:15.239
<v Speaker 3>but even for you, it was a little They kind

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:16.040
<v Speaker 3>of saved.

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<v Speaker 5>It a little bit this time when I saw it

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 5>with with you grabbing his mutton chops and saying, well,

0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 5>at least what I grew was real.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so they kind of give it back to.

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<v Speaker 5>You a little bit, but it's still is a little

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 5>ae yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, if you know, my just particular tastes

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:35.800
<v Speaker 6>are that uh you know, and I don't like, I

0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 6>don't dislike lude comedy, but I don't need to see

0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:43.920
<v Speaker 6>kids interacting that way. It's just not Yeah, you know,

0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:48.320
<v Speaker 6>there is something And I don't know that I ever

0:57:49.480 --> 0:57:52.760
<v Speaker 6>considered it at the time the only but I was

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:54.840
<v Speaker 6>also stuck in my own world. If I could have

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 6>been just an observer, maybe I would have gone like,

0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:04.280
<v Speaker 6>that's odd, you know. But like as a parent to

0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:09.720
<v Speaker 6>girls today, I'm I'm like, you know, come on, guys,

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:16.439
<v Speaker 6>that's yeah, Like you know, I see, especially with development,

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:20.720
<v Speaker 6>just commenting on it can be so introverting to a

0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:24.280
<v Speaker 6>totally or a girl. And and like, you know, I

0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:26.840
<v Speaker 6>don't know, I'm not like mad that they did that joke,

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:30.400
<v Speaker 6>but I certainly it was a record a little record

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:31.439
<v Speaker 6>scratch in my mind.

0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I mean, when you're a kid, you're so

0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:36.600
<v Speaker 3>the same way we talked about that. For you, it

0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:39.320
<v Speaker 3>felt like there was all the other lights were often

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 3>there was a spotlight.

0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:41.720
<v Speaker 1>On you when we did that eighteen times.

0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:44.240
<v Speaker 3>That's what you think people are, that's in your mind,

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:47.120
<v Speaker 3>what's happening about everything? So you're like, everyone's gonna notice,

0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 3>everyone's thinking about it, everyone's talking about it, and then

0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:52.960
<v Speaker 3>when they actually do it just confirms.

0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 6>And then at twelve, what does that even mean to you?

0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:58.480
<v Speaker 6>Like those words? What do those words even mean to you?

0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 6>Because I highly doubt that, But that's your intention, walking

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.480
<v Speaker 6>like you're not getting dressed, going like I gotta look

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 6>sexy today, you know.

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:05.720
<v Speaker 2>What I mean?

0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 3>No, definitely not. Do you remember working with Lily Nixy

0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 3>at all? But she played Morgan, the little sister.

0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:17.120
<v Speaker 6>I don't know that I ever had scenes with her.

0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:18.439
<v Speaker 6>Was she okay in the house?

0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Mostly?

0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she was never in the school, so I didn't

0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:24.200
<v Speaker 3>know if you remembered any experience.

0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 9>That's a good question. Was Lily ever not in the

0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:29.000
<v Speaker 9>house ever?

0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:30.400
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:29.920
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:30.600
<v Speaker 6>No?

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Wowyard backyard.

0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:37.439
<v Speaker 6>And I also think, like, you know, you guys had

0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 6>parents there, but you were at an age where your

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 6>parents could be like sitting up in the bleachers or

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 6>at craft services. Sure parents were standing five feet away,

0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:50.600
<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean, Like there was no and

0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 6>what am I going to say to a little little

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:54.160
<v Speaker 6>kid like that? You know what I mean? There's no

0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 6>joking around to be done. I don't think I had

0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 6>any interaction with her. I don't think I ever had

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:01.080
<v Speaker 6>any interaction with her parents or anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, okay, So final question for you looking back

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<v Speaker 3>now on this episode, is there anything when you watch

1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:13.560
<v Speaker 3>this episode your first job ever, that you think to yourself? Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>I can pinpoint this week right here is where I

1:00:16.880 --> 1:00:19.800
<v Speaker 3>learned blank, and I've carried it with me for the

1:00:19.800 --> 1:00:20.560
<v Speaker 3>rest of my career.

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<v Speaker 6>I learned how to be a professional actor that way.

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<v Speaker 6>That was you know, for me prior to that, acting

1:00:29.200 --> 1:00:33.720
<v Speaker 6>was spending as much time as I wanted with some material,

1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:39.240
<v Speaker 6>making as many changes as I felt were necessary, trying it,

1:00:39.360 --> 1:00:45.720
<v Speaker 6>feeling if that iteration felt best to me. It was

1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:49.480
<v Speaker 6>really a solo pursuit or you know, in acting class

1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:52.040
<v Speaker 6>where you then get critiqued by an acting teacher. But

1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:56.600
<v Speaker 6>it was it was the first time that I got

1:00:56.640 --> 1:01:01.200
<v Speaker 6>to experience the collaborative name nature of what it is

1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:05.120
<v Speaker 6>to be a professional actor on any level. And and really,

1:01:05.120 --> 1:01:07.920
<v Speaker 6>if we think about it, our jobs are always collaborative,

1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:11.920
<v Speaker 6>unless we're writing our own one man show and then

1:01:12.280 --> 1:01:14.680
<v Speaker 6>wearing all the hats and putting it up, or just

1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:18.080
<v Speaker 6>performing it for ourselves in the mirror, which is interesting

1:01:18.200 --> 1:01:23.280
<v Speaker 6>but like the in what we do, there are writers, directors.

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<v Speaker 2>There's you know, it's a social art form.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a social art form. It is the most collaborative

1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:35.320
<v Speaker 6>art form there is because it isn't just one thing.

1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:38.480
<v Speaker 6>It is everybody has a point of view on a scene,

1:01:38.520 --> 1:01:41.600
<v Speaker 6>and you have to come together to make this cohesive

1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:44.400
<v Speaker 6>thing that's going to communicate to people. And it was

1:01:44.480 --> 1:01:49.320
<v Speaker 6>like such a powerful and transformative week where it proved

1:01:49.520 --> 1:01:52.400
<v Speaker 6>that like not only could I do it, but like

1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:54.280
<v Speaker 6>I could enjoy it and I could be a part

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<v Speaker 6>of that collaboration.

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<v Speaker 5>That's amazing because you even said before that you felt

1:01:59.760 --> 1:02:02.880
<v Speaker 5>the audience's energy draining. Yeah, And that's one of the

1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:05.240
<v Speaker 5>things where even the audience is part of the collaboration.

1:02:05.400 --> 1:02:06.960
<v Speaker 9>They're they're part of your team.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's you you at one point when you get

1:02:09.440 --> 1:02:11.840
<v Speaker 5>this thing on its feet, You've got hundreds of people

1:02:11.880 --> 1:02:15.040
<v Speaker 5>involved in making it happen, and it really is unique

1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:15.720
<v Speaker 5>in that aspect.

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<v Speaker 6>This maybe I mean you rely on their laugh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>If you're not getting that from them, you're not doing

1:02:22.280 --> 1:02:25.000
<v Speaker 6>it right because you know, I know, there's a lot

1:02:25.000 --> 1:02:28.880
<v Speaker 6>to say, there's applause signs and all of that which

1:02:28.920 --> 1:02:31.720
<v Speaker 6>can bolster them a little bit and the warm up

1:02:31.760 --> 1:02:34.439
<v Speaker 6>guy who gets them ready for it. But if they

1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:36.880
<v Speaker 6>start to fade on you, there's no getting them back,

1:02:37.040 --> 1:02:39.880
<v Speaker 6>and you know you got to like to make a

1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:43.800
<v Speaker 6>broad left turn to try to recapture them.

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<v Speaker 2>This might be too broad of a hypothetical, But what

1:02:45.960 --> 1:02:47.760
<v Speaker 2>do you think would have happened if you hadn't come

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<v Speaker 2>back after this week?

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<v Speaker 6>Jesus, I don't know, you know, I if that was,

1:02:52.240 --> 1:02:55.200
<v Speaker 6>if that was one and done, I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think you'd feel as good about the experience

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<v Speaker 2>like or would you feel Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there was no expectation that I was coming back

1:03:03.920 --> 1:03:07.160
<v Speaker 6>when I didn't. I didn't. There was no like you

1:03:07.200 --> 1:03:09.880
<v Speaker 6>know now, when people talk to me about a TV show,

1:03:09.920 --> 1:03:14.280
<v Speaker 6>that's not like you're being offered a season regular job.

1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:18.240
<v Speaker 6>It's like, there's five episodes we want you to do,

1:03:18.560 --> 1:03:22.200
<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean. I'm not really talking to

1:03:22.200 --> 1:03:28.480
<v Speaker 6>people about one episode of a television show and so like.

1:03:29.080 --> 1:03:32.040
<v Speaker 6>But that back then was all I thought. It was,

1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:34.080
<v Speaker 6>this is going to be five days of work, and

1:03:34.120 --> 1:03:36.320
<v Speaker 6>this is my first job, and what am I going

1:03:36.360 --> 1:03:39.560
<v Speaker 6>to do to prepare? And like it's all new and

1:03:39.600 --> 1:03:42.480
<v Speaker 6>fascinating and I would have come away from it going like,

1:03:43.120 --> 1:03:45.360
<v Speaker 6>I hope I did a good job, but coming back

1:03:46.120 --> 1:03:46.920
<v Speaker 6>was icing.

1:03:49.680 --> 1:03:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Ethan, where can people find you? Where can we listen

1:03:52.080 --> 1:03:54.160
<v Speaker 3>to you? How can we best support you?

1:03:54.320 --> 1:03:58.400
<v Speaker 6>And now I write a sub stack, which I'm having

1:03:58.480 --> 1:04:01.320
<v Speaker 6>so much fun writing. You know, for a long time

1:04:01.360 --> 1:04:05.560
<v Speaker 6>I did. I've been on Instagram, which limits you to

1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:08.880
<v Speaker 6>like two thousand or twenty five hundred words or twenty

1:04:09.080 --> 1:04:11.920
<v Speaker 6>some some. Yeah it's not twenty five hundred words. I'd

1:04:11.960 --> 1:04:14.520
<v Speaker 6>be a lot. I think it's two thousand characters, okay.

1:04:15.200 --> 1:04:18.560
<v Speaker 6>And I found myself writing for Instagram and always having

1:04:18.640 --> 1:04:21.400
<v Speaker 6>to edit it down. So I've started just putting up

1:04:21.480 --> 1:04:23.040
<v Speaker 6>essays on substack, which.

1:04:22.840 --> 1:04:25.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry as somebody who doesn't know anything about computers

1:04:25.880 --> 1:04:26.640
<v Speaker 5>or or what that is.

1:04:26.680 --> 1:04:27.920
<v Speaker 9>What is what is a substack?

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<v Speaker 6>What is that? Substack is literally like social media for writing?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, cool, It's like basically where journalists go. Now

1:04:37.480 --> 1:04:40.640
<v Speaker 2>where you can you can publish your own like your

1:04:40.680 --> 1:04:42.760
<v Speaker 2>own articles and your own soft and share it.

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<v Speaker 9>Is it substack dot com? Is that how you find that?

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<v Speaker 6>If you wanted to find me, it would be ethansplea

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<v Speaker 6>dot substack dot cool. But you could go to substack

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<v Speaker 6>and search for my name, and uh, I'm having so

1:04:56.440 --> 1:05:00.000
<v Speaker 6>much fun writing essays. I write an essay every week

1:05:00.200 --> 1:05:04.720
<v Speaker 6>and it's all you know about my terrible mental health

1:05:04.840 --> 1:05:08.919
<v Speaker 6>and my struggles with weight and addiction. And it's such

1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:13.080
<v Speaker 6>a cathartic place to put ideas out into the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus so wonderful. Are you still doing your podcast?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Yeah, and American Glutton, Yeah that continues. That's like

1:05:20.320 --> 1:05:24.280
<v Speaker 6>my version of a recovery meeting for obesity.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything that was I was on and it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a great experience, really cool. Thank you will Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Ethan, thank you so much for spending some more

1:05:34.440 --> 1:05:36.600
<v Speaker 3>time with us. It's always such a joy to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope to get to see you in person again

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<v Speaker 3>soon too. Thank you for being here with us.

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<v Speaker 6>You later.

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<v Speaker 5>I could talk to him for hours. I seriously could

1:05:47.520 --> 1:05:49.560
<v Speaker 5>talk to him for hours. But it also just shows

1:05:49.560 --> 1:05:52.000
<v Speaker 5>when he again, when he's talking about getting that first

1:05:52.000 --> 1:05:54.480
<v Speaker 5>script in the past, he was just on a different.

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<v Speaker 9>Level and I'll just speak myself, on a different level.

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<v Speaker 5>Than me, and it showed, I mean, you could tell

1:06:00.280 --> 1:06:03.720
<v Speaker 5>he was just a deeper actor who appreciated the craft

1:06:04.200 --> 1:06:06.560
<v Speaker 5>right from the jump, which is something that I didn't

1:06:06.560 --> 1:06:08.439
<v Speaker 5>find for twenty years in my career.

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<v Speaker 9>It's really incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got to join a substack. I gotta I.

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<v Speaker 9>Gotta know what that was to me.

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<v Speaker 5>That's just the small pancakes.

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, that's a short stack.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the show. Short stack.

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<v Speaker 9>That's what it is, right damn it.

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