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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Huddle Podcast with Jonathan Casias and

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Speaker 1: I have a special guest here, Brandon Short, former New

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Speaker 1: York Giant linebacker Penn State alumni. Even though I went

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Speaker 1: to Wisconsin, We're still brothers at arms, right, Ladies and gentlemen. Yes, sir, yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: So man, talk to me man. I know you have

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Speaker 1: a foundation that you started. It is the Carly Short

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Speaker 1: Carly Short Better Tomorrow Foundation. Can you give us you

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Speaker 1: know what it is and why did you start it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, well, first of all, thank you for taking

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Speaker 2: a time to have me on the show to talk

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Speaker 2: about this important issue. You know, gun violence is just

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Speaker 2: running rampant throughout the country and it's important that we

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Speaker 2: all speak up to do what we can to try

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Speaker 2: to address it. In twenty twenty one, I know experienced

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Speaker 2: every parent's works nightmare and lost my daughter and our

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Speaker 2: Losing a child is devastating and traumatic and my family

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Speaker 2: and I know really struggled with the way too, you know, cope,

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Speaker 2: you know, we fay anger, sadness, and we just you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm still figuring out how to cope, you know, to

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Speaker 2: be honest with you. But you know, unfortunately we're we're

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Speaker 2: not alone in this drama. You know, every day, over

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ten Americans die and gun related injuries.

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Speaker 2: The leading cause of death for children is gun related injuries.

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Speaker 2: In two thousand, over forty five bouts of Americans died

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Speaker 2: from guns. And you know, every time, you know, I

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Speaker 2: and like it brings up all the pain in me.

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Speaker 2: Every time I see the families, I see their suffering

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Speaker 2: and want to figure out a ready to reach out

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Speaker 2: I looked at gun violence advocacy, we saw a lot

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Speaker 2: but not very many that we're working and support the

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Speaker 2: but where the trustees and I believe that education is

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Speaker 2: the key to offering young people opportunities. And that said,

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Speaker 2: you know, college is expensive and extremely challenging out any circumstances,

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Speaker 2: much less someone suffering from the fallout from gun violence.

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Speaker 2: So as a result, like my wife and I informed,

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Speaker 2: scholarships and mental health support for young people for college students,

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Speaker 2: you know, grappling with the fallout from gun violence.

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Speaker 1: I was able to look at some of the testimonies

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Speaker 1: from some of the scholarship recipients and you know, you

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Speaker 1: can kind of you can hear the pain in their

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Speaker 1: voices when they speak about, you know, some incidents that

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Speaker 1: because of it. Why choose that route, the education route?

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Speaker 1: Why choose that route for the scholarships?

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess the education is upward mobility and opportunity

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Speaker 2: for everyone. I believe that all the world's problems, not

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Speaker 2: all of them, most of them can be solved through education.

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Speaker 2: All the division in the country, the division around the

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Speaker 2: most of the world's problems and be solved through economics

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Speaker 2: as well. People having a job have an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: best way that you can provide people that opportunity both

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Speaker 2: my wife and I couldn't think of a better way

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Speaker 2: to honor our daughter's memory than to create an entire

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Speaker 1: And how many scholarships have been given out so far?

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Speaker 2: So like in our first year we raised six hundred

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Speaker 1: So you grew up in the Key Sport that is

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Speaker 1: also the town where the incident happened that with your daughter.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of the Key sports around the country.

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Speaker 1: I'm from Jersey City, New Jersey. You got Newark, you

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Speaker 1: in the school system. I have a camp coming up

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Speaker 2: You. Whether you realize it or not, you're you're you're

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Speaker 2: doing it already by being by being an example by

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Speaker 2: setting an example for young people that that you can

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Speaker 2: But also you know, use you particularly in people like

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Speaker 2: It was the fourth most dangerous place in the United

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Speaker 2: that that you know, guns are a scourge, Guns are

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Speaker 2: an epidemic. And I lived abroad and for ten years,

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Speaker 2: And sometimes living abroad you can see America and Schiet

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Speaker 2: our problem with guns is a uniquely American problem. You know,

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Speaker 2: in London they were In the United Kingdom, there were

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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty the gun related murders in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: The difference is that no one has guns in the

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Speaker 2: but you remove the guns. They have mental health issues

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Speaker 2: we can, not to take guns away, but to put

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Speaker 2: these massive mass shootings happening. It's reasonable. The majority of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. They're not getting rid

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Speaker 1: been there for a long time, and people in America

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Speaker 1: they're not willing to give up their guns. So I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: how do we, you know, fix the problem with the guns.

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Speaker 1: You can't get rid of the guns. Now, how do

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Speaker 1: equipped with knowledge early, and having them not be so desensitized.

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Speaker 1: I feel like America. You go to other countries, like

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Speaker 1: so desensitized to shootings. They're so desensitized to violence, you know.

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Speaker 1: We see it on all of our programming, all of

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Speaker 1: and it's sad to say, but like I don't mind

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Speaker 1: the TV a movie that that has a lot of violence.

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Speaker 1: You know, I played a violent sport for a long time,

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Speaker 1: you know. But the shootings, I feel like it has

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Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. And look, I think you're doing

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna keep making my push on this side,

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Speaker 2: I think they need to There's multiple ways to fight

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Speaker 2: It's it's a political issue, you know, and it's not.

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Speaker 2: that's going to bring you to the ballot and not

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Speaker 2: speaking about taking guns away, no, no question. But like you,

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Speaker 2: but you shouldn't be able to buy a gun if

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Speaker 2: you had, you have a history of missing, mental illness,

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Speaker 2: come from England. I go hunting, pheasant hunting. These people

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Speaker 2: are marksmen. But there's no reason why you have an

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Speaker 2: not it's not reasonable or fathomable. The police are outrun.

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Speaker 2: The police are The police have a tough job, the

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Speaker 2: it's a political issue and people need to mobilize and

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Speaker 2: always believe, but until this happens to you, you realize that, like,

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Speaker 1: To be this way. Yeah, a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: lighter side. I saw videos from the gala that was

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Speaker 1: I also saw so many people in attendance, like LeVar Arrington,

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Speaker 1: Because that was the inaugural gala last year, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: No, I'm a portfolio manager for Peage and real Estate. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So what's next for you and what's next for the foundation?

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Speaker 1: You have any events coming up anytime soon? I know

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Speaker 1: you just finished with your second gala? Yeah, and what

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Speaker 2: So the gala is a focal point to bring people's

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Speaker 2: I believe my wife has a scheduled for June eighth

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Speaker 2: we think we're you know, working with our kids now.

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Speaker 2: I'm working with the university about getting a former mentorship

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. And so, Brandon Short, what do you have

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Speaker 1: that you're doing well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my goal now is to come back and

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Speaker 1: Guess we get end on that note. Man, Look, it

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Speaker 1: was a pleasure talking to you. It was a pleasure

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Speaker 1: studying up about your story. My condolences to you and

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Speaker 1: do so much for others. So thank you again for

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Speaker 1: your time this is Johnathan can see us with the

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Speaker 1: Giant Huddle Podcast. My man, Brandon Short, thanks a lot,

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Speaker 1: all right, man, thanks