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Speaker 1: a nicer vehicle, this grand It was a Grand Highlander,

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Speaker 1: I will say, and it looked nice. I was even

439
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Speaker 1: tempted because I thought, I'm never going to have the

440
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Speaker 1: opportunity to drive over long distance in a leather It

441
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Speaker 1: was just really nice. But I was like, no, there's

442
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Speaker 1: no luggage space, the ability to move around in the vehicle.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, we ended up going with a van, a

444
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Speaker 1: Chrysler pacifica rental with Avis. It was great, and specifically

445
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Speaker 1: we got a hybrid, which was also very nice. To

446
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Speaker 1: talk about some savings.

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Speaker 3: Driving that many miles, yeah, I will.

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Speaker 1: Say, though I did some quick math, we save some money,

449
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Speaker 1: but it wasn't a tremendous amount. I don't think we

450
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Speaker 1: saved much more than too much.

451
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Speaker 3: Do you think you saved on that?

452
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Speaker 1: I think we said around two hundred bucks tw hundred

453
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Speaker 1: bucks and gas, which isn't nothing. Yeah, but you know

454
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Speaker 1: you're you're dropping like around one thousand bucks on a rental,

455
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Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't go out of my way to go

456
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Speaker 1: to get extra, to pay extra in order to get

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Speaker 1: a hybrid. When it's like, all right, if we were

458
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Speaker 1: driving our vehicle, maybe I'm getting like twenty miles per

459
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Speaker 1: gallon in an old traditional you know, mini van as

460
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Speaker 1: opposed to something closer to thirty in a hybrid, because

461
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Speaker 1: the hybrid doesn't work so well when you're driving higher

462
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Speaker 1: speeds on the interestate, it's great for driving around town

463
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Speaker 1: because when you're driving around town, that's when the that's true,

464
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Speaker 1: that's when the little low power motor kind of thing

465
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Speaker 1: kicks on and you're getting like thirty five miles thirty

466
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Speaker 1: five to thirty seven miles per gallon.

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Speaker 3: But it was nice.

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Speaker 1: I loved watching that little power meter thing there on

469
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Speaker 1: the I would I think I would get addicted to that.

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Speaker 3: But if I had a hybrid, I would always be like, dude,

471
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Speaker 3: I want to get the leave.

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Speaker 1: I want to be in the green.

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Speaker 3: I want to constantly be regenerative, breaking like you're hyper

474
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Speaker 3: miling it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I will say, getting back into traditional vehicle like

476
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Speaker 1: standard disc brakes seem so antiquated. Yeah, I'm like, why

477
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Speaker 1: not use this stored energy that is in the mass

478
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Speaker 1: of our vehicle trying to slow down to generate power.

479
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Speaker 1: Sure doesn't that seem like a no brainer?

480
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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 1: I feel like all cars should be equipped with regenitative braking.

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Speaker 2: I rented one of those new Jeeps on hawaii'se Jeps

483
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Speaker 2: are the way to get around.

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Speaker 1: Come on, if you're in Hawaii, yeah, you should be

485
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Speaker 1: driving a jeep around.

486
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Speaker 2: And so it's got a little like a little battery

487
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Speaker 2: in there that they I guess you can drive it

488
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Speaker 2: in just electric mode or in hybrid mode, but it's

489
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Speaker 2: like kind of pathetic, Like the battery is so tiny.

490
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Speaker 2: It's it lasts like about two minutes.

491
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Speaker 3: In electric road was literally in two minutes.

492
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Speaker 2: It's it's not long at all. It's it's yeah, probably

493
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Speaker 2: close to that, and then hybrid mode it maybe lasts

494
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Speaker 2: like thirty five to forty minutes.

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Speaker 3: So okay, it's kind of pathetic.

496
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Speaker 1: But if you had it at home, though, do you

497
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Speaker 1: think it would be enough for you to run an erran.

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Speaker 3: Let's say you're going to the grocery store back. Maybe

499
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Speaker 3: it's not that kind of like what it's geared for.

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Speaker 2: I think so, But I don't think it's even as

501
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Speaker 2: robust as like the the plug in hybrids that Toyota offers,

502
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Speaker 2: for instance, like the rap those be more like forty

503
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Speaker 2: miles worth.

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Speaker 1: That's the difference between jeeps and toyotas man toyota like

505
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Speaker 1: they've been perfecting the hybrid, yeah, for and now they

506
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Speaker 1: prime right, like the plug in evs or whatever, the

507
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Speaker 1: plug in hybrids. They've been perfecting that for twenty plus

508
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Speaker 1: years now. As opposed to some of these newer guys

509
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Speaker 1: that were like, oh, yeah, maybe we'll take advantage of

510
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Speaker 1: the EV taxings, you know, all the incentives that are

511
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Speaker 1: getting poured into green vehicles.

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Speaker 2: My question for you, yeah, how much did you miss

513
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Speaker 2: talking about personal finance? And did you find yourself maybe

514
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Speaker 2: talking about roth iras as you were going.

515
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Speaker 3: To sleep, just just.

516
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Speaker 1: A nobody, just to yourself, just a random guy waiting

517
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Speaker 1: in line on this methoda calling your.

518
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Speaker 3: Random friends to give them finance tips or anything like that.

519
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Speaker 1: No, I never feel myself tempted tempted to do that.

520
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Speaker 1: I will say, though, I'm trying to unpack as to

521
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Speaker 1: because we were trying to treat this as this abbatical,

522
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Speaker 1: not just as a time to take some bigger trips,

523
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Speaker 1: but within that and.

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Speaker 3: You say that, what do you mean, what's the difference, Well.

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Speaker 1: Well, having more time to take trips is fun, right,

526
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Speaker 1: as opposed to like, all right, going on a three

527
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Speaker 1: day silent retreat where you're just really getting a lot

528
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Speaker 1: more introspective. I don't know. Maybe I was just too

529
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Speaker 1: ambitious with the time to be able to do absolutely nothing,

530
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Speaker 1: because even the time where I was supposed to do

531
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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing at home, I'm like, oh, I could use

532
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Speaker 1: the time to put a laundry room sync in our

533
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Speaker 1: laundry room, which is something I did, and it was

534
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Speaker 1: a ton of fun. It was a little frustrating at times,

535
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Speaker 1: almost electricated to myself. Maybe I'll say that for say

536
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Speaker 1: that start for some other time. But claud you're still here.

537
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Speaker 1: I'm still here. I didn't. Yeah, it's all good. It

538
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Speaker 1: was a two twenty line too. It was too the dryer,

539
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: so it was like higher voltage. I think it could

540
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Speaker 1: have been bad. But I can safely say that I

541
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Speaker 1: definitely miss recording. I missed doing what it is that

542
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Speaker 1: you and I get to do here. It's and obviously

543
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Speaker 1: it's a blessing to be able to a be our

544
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Speaker 1: own bosses, but then be within that framework to have

545
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Speaker 1: the ability to step away from our work for the

546
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Speaker 1: summer and say, all right, let's spend some time, you know,

547
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Speaker 1: for you like training a little bit more, maybe going

548
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Speaker 1: for more runs, spending more time with friends, spending time

549
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Speaker 1: with family, just chilling out, reading more. Yeah, the ability

550
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Speaker 1: to take some of these bigger trips that you otherwise wouldn't, right,

551
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Speaker 1: like as opposed to going out to Seattle and just

552
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Speaker 1: kind of flying back real quick.

553
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Speaker 3: You're like, hey, we're already out.

554
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Speaker 1: Here on the West coast, baby, let's let's fly it

555
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Speaker 1: down to Hawaii. The ability and the blessing, it is

556
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Speaker 1: a blessing for I think our ability to do something

557
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Speaker 1: like that same thing with taking a two week long

558
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Speaker 1: road trip and to not feel confbited up right to

559
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Speaker 1: the very start of it and the very end of it, right,

560
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Speaker 1: to be able to say, all right, we can kind

561
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Speaker 1: of think about this well, prepare for it, and then

562
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Speaker 1: when you come home, it's like you can also, all right,

563
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Speaker 1: let's take some time to kind of reacclimate to home life,

564
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Speaker 1: and like, all right, let's just sleep in tomorrow, just

565
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Speaker 1: all the kind of you'll come back on a Sunday

566
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Speaker 1: and get back to real life on a Monday, exactly.

567
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Speaker 1: And that's hard and so man that I certainly most

568
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: definitely appreciate and within that sort of within thinking about that,

569
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Speaker 1: certainly missed being able to talk into the microphone with

570
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Speaker 1: you about the things that we love care about and

571
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Speaker 1: the ability to bring money saving information and money investing

572
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Speaker 1: information and all the things that we love to talk

573
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Speaker 1: about here on the podcast to our listeners.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what about you. Yeah, it's funny.

575
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Speaker 2: I was like, I thought I was going to have

576
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: like withdrawal symptoms or something like that, shake something away,

577
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 2: like three weeks not talking me into a microphone about

578
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Speaker 2: personal finance with my buddy.

579
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Speaker 3: The going's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: The good news is that, babe, we're on vacation. The

581
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Speaker 1: bad news is I started smoking.

582
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Speaker 2: I had had to find a habit to take over

583
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: my other habit, which is my day job. But no, like,

584
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Speaker 2: I'm actually super stoked about getting back into a rhythm

585
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 2: of kids in school, going into work and recording and

586
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Speaker 2: talking about personal I do love it.

587
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Speaker 1: I was.

588
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Speaker 2: I will say I was still reading a similar amount

589
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Speaker 2: to maybe what I read on a daily basis, just

590
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 2: because I'm it's a passive subject. I'm not just passionate,

591
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: you know, I don't just get paid to do. I'm

592
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Speaker 2: also passionate about it. Yeah, but I just I feel

593
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Speaker 2: like I was able to get away to such an

594
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Speaker 2: extent that I wasn't missing it. I was like I

595
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Speaker 2: was glad to be away, but also the looking forward

596
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Speaker 2: to being back when the time came.

597
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Speaker 3: I get that, which I shit, that felt great.

598
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Speaker 1: I definitely wasn't reading as Oh, I'll be honest, I

599
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Speaker 1: wasn't not reading as much. I was reading as much

600
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Speaker 1: total perhaps or maybe more. I'm still in the I'm

601
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Speaker 1: in the middle of The Brother's Cameras Off, which is

602
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: a really long It's a freaking yeah it is. It's

603
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: like over a thousand pages, and so I'm like, I

604
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: feel like I've been reading this for a month. Uh,

605
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Speaker 1: and I'm maybe halfway through. Wasn't it.

606
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Speaker 2: Wasn't it Laura Vandercamp that told us she read war

607
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Speaker 2: in Peace or in Piece daily Emails?

608
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Speaker 1: I think that's even longer. Actually, that's crazy, which.

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Speaker 3: Which, by the way, what are you reading? Are you

610
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Speaker 3: in the middle of anything?

611
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Speaker 1: Right now?

612
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Speaker 2: I'm reading Rick Rubin's book on creativity Nice, which is

613
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Speaker 2: super super interesting and it makes me Last year you yeah,

614
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Speaker 2: and you and I have actually been talking about do

615
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 2: we love what we do? But like, hey, can we

616
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Speaker 2: come back to this podcast with fresh eyes with it

617
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Speaker 2: with a different approach? And I think we will, like

618
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Speaker 2: I think we will continue. I think in a fresh passion.

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Speaker 2: Even I'm like, yeah, actually super stoked to get away

620
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Speaker 2: from it, and I'll come back to it and be like,

621
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Speaker 2: all right, what can we do to improve this thing

622
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Speaker 2: that we love that it's been around for seven plus years.

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Speaker 1: It's fun to take breaks, yeah, I mean, I think

624
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: that's part of it too. It's I mean, it's fun

625
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Speaker 1: from the sense of like you get to do fun

626
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: things while you're taking time off. But it's also fun

627
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Speaker 1: to kind of look at it with fresh eyes, being

628
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Speaker 1: able to take a break from it and being like, oh,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, no this And I think that's kind

630
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Speaker 1: of where I guess where I'm at right now as

631
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Speaker 1: I think about it, I'm just like, this is awesome,

632
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Speaker 1: like what we get to do on.

633
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Speaker 2: A on a you know, day in and day out,

634
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Speaker 2: and even if you're thankful and you know you love it,

635
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Speaker 2: sometimes when you're in the weeds of day to day

636
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Speaker 2: stuff and then it's harder to see totally.

637
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Speaker 1: Can it can be tougher to be appreciative, I will say,

638
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: taking more time to appreciate other things in life. Does

639
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Speaker 1: I still obviously, I still want to be able to

640
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Speaker 1: do what we do. It does also make me want

641
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Speaker 1: to make sure I'm setting aside enough time to do

642
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Speaker 1: other things that I have been able to expose myself to,

643
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Speaker 1: like art, for instance. Like I was like talking with

644
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Speaker 1: Kate about this, I'm like, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, entering into your George Bush era.

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Speaker 1: I see, but I mean maybe, but like literally like

647
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Speaker 1: we spent way more time in galleries and appreciating art

648
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: and learning about artists like gosh, the Farnsworth Art Museum

649
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: has this incredible Andrew Wyath collection and somewhat familiar with

650
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: him before, but really like diving into I'm like, I

651
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: recently started a book that was this six day interview

652
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Speaker 1: of him. This was actually a book that's that was

653
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Speaker 1: in Kate's family that an uncle gave her Kate's grandmother,

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Speaker 1: and she was just like, well, don't take this one

655
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Speaker 1: out to the beach. She's like, make sure this one

656
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: kind of was like a family not a family heirloom,

657
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: but it means something more but art, right, So the

658
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: ability to I don't know, carve more and I don't

659
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: know what exactly that looks like, but does it look

660
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: like more of an appreciation for I certainly have that.

661
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Speaker 1: So how can I continue that does it look like

662
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: thinking through Oh, I kind of started out my career

663
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: basically as a visual artist, as a graphic designer, then

664
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: moving into photography. Well, what does it look like another

665
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: stage of that, even where I am incorporating more of

666
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: that into my life. These are questions I'm like asking

667
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: myself now where I'm like, man, I don't know, there's

668
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: something that there's Maybe life is too short to not

669
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: appreciate some of the beauty, like the most beautiful things

670
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: that that's out there, that are out there in the world,

671
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: and certainly going to the Smithsonian, the National Gallery of Art,

672
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: going to different sponsor along the East Coast has allowed

673
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: me to realize how much is out there. Gosh, the

674
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: Isabella Stewart Gardner, Like Kate and I were talking to

675
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: you and sounds amazing you and Emily about that an

676
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: amazing place. The if you've never been there and you're

677
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: in Boston, I would highly recommend it if you want

678
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: an incredible story with this private collection of art that

679
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: you get to tour. But it does make me want to.

680
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: I think the break has allowed me to see that

681
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: as well, that like what you do like from nine

682
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: to five, like that's good, but also this there's a

683
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: lot of other stuff in life that is also good.

684
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: And as we are, we've been talking a little bit

685
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: about the kids with ramping back up for school and

686
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: they're taking on additional pursuits, whether it's sports or different

687
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: clubs and things that they want to do, and it's like, heck, yeah,

688
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: I want you to do all these things, like this

689
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: is awesome. How can I support you? Like I'm thinking

690
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: about them from a development standpoint, because like, you know,

691
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: that's what you do as parents, right, Like we've had

692
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 1: our parents who have poured into us and that has

693
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: led to our own development. And obviously we do that

694
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: by like taking care of our kids and feeding them,

695
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: taking them to school and stuff like that, but finding

696
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: a way to kind of partner with them broad their

697
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 1: horizon their own development. Yeah, Like I think I've got

698
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: a renewed passion for that as well, especially as I

699
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: think about them launching. You know, they're all starting new

700
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: grades now, so it's like, oh, man, you're gonna get

701
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: to start learning about this.

702
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: Oh you're playing this sport.

703
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: Oh you are entering school for the first time, buddy,

704
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: Like that's something that's totally new, Like yeah, both for

705
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: our little dudes are entering into kindergarten, which is a

706
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: ton of fun.

707
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: I think one of the things traveled does for you too,

708
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: and this is something we kept talking about with our kids,

709
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: is it helps you to realize that there are so

710
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: many different ways to live this life, right, And like

711
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: we took surfing lessons one day when we were in

712
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: a hot that was like our big explurage item. It

713
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: was Sama's birthday and we're like, all right, go surfing

714
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: and it was super cool. And of course the guy

715
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: John who does our surfing lessons, the stereotypical Hawaiian surfer dude,

716
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: and he was so fun to hang out with and

717
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: he used all the lino not because I think he

718
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: was trying to imitate one, but because he legit is

719
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: a surfer dude. And you just realize, like that he's

720
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: got this small business taking people out surfing. That's what

721
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: he does, and he does decently well for himself, but

722
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: he gets to do the thing he enjoins every single

723
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: day and that is pretty magical too. He's living the

724
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: dream and there are just so many ways to live

725
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: this life. And I love when I travel seeing the

726
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: different kinds of ways people have chosen to live life,

727
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: and it makes me want to reconsider too, not like

728
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: shake things up completely, because I'm pretty happy with the

729
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: way my life looks, but it's also one of those

730
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: things where it's a good reminder that it's not the

731
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: only way, or it's not the way that it has

732
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: to look forever. Yeah, shaking things up, iterating are all

733
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: a part of what it looks like to think to

734
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: live a meaningful life, and experiencing that through other people

735
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: is one of the great benefits of travel.

736
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Speaker 3: Well you speak.

737
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Speaker 1: You talking about surfing has got me thinking about a

738
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: recurring theme with this beach trip, which I would call

739
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: the beach trip where we learned about tides, because like,

740
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: ties are like this mystery, right, and now every day

741
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: you and I are like, oh.

742
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: Well, how long before high tide before low tide?

743
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: Because we found out we started playing with our garment

744
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: watches that there's a tide feature that.

745
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: You can turn on and put on the watch phase

746
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 2: or whatever. So I'm like a tide pro now. Oh

747
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: and one other thing that I think we should remark

748
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: about this trip. We talk a lot about on the

749
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: show about livestock creep and how kind of once you

750
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: incorporate a new method of spending intr like, it's truly

751
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: hard to dial it back down. Hey, you start hiring

752
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: someone to your lawn service, really hard to fire them

753
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: and start mowing your lawn again. Well, we actually on

754
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: the house and we downgraded significantly this year, maybe not significantly,

755
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: but price wise significantly almost half price, almost half the price.

756
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: But we found a great place. It's like, literally three

757
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: house is down from the one we stayed at. And

758
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: so I think that's one of those things too. It

759
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: doesn't have the amenities, it doesn't it's not as fancified,

760
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: but it's one of those things where it's like we kind.

761
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: Of it's great, we're so good. We're sitting here and

762
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: it did what do we want from a beach house?

763
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: And we're like, yeah, that place was over the top,

764
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 3: let's get this one instead.

765
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: And it's it's a reconsidering and just kind of talking

766
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: it through, just be like do we want to keep

767
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: doing that? Like can we sure we could afford it?

768
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: We could plunk down the change, we could splurge, but yeah,

769
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: this I honestly, there are certain aspects about this house,

770
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: even though it is literally half the price.

771
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: Of the one that we've gotten in the past. There

772
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: are certain aspects of it that are better, yeah than

773
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: the functional.

774
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's more functional.

775
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: It's it's more suited for two families like ours to

776
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: get together and hang out at the beach. But the

777
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: other crazy thing, too, is that it's like, like you said,

778
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: three houses down and I guess I'll share this part.

779
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: And I told you that when we that. I guess

780
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: it was the night that we arrived here that I

781
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: didn't want to walk the same way to pass the

782
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: big fancy house because we're probably going to be like, oh, okay,

783
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: to feel like a.

784
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: Stab in our heart.

785
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: Except that the first day we did walk past it,

786
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: and it's Nina, how would you say it? It's under

787
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: reconni It is not habitable at the moment because I

788
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: guess when it was built they didn't seal it property.

789
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: So there's like scaffolding all around this house and it

790
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: looks like a total dump. And this total dump doesn't

791
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: bother me. But what bothers me is the fact that

792
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: had we booked it, we would have likely gotten kicked

793
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: out of there. Sure we would have gotten our money back,

794
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: but we likely wouldn't have found I mean this place

795
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: probably would have been snatched up by that point.

796
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: I felt bad too, just because there's a lot of

797
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: good memories in that house and you're like, oh man,

798
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: it'll sucks to that house.

799
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: Well, it's clear that.

800
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: They're going to return it to its former glory. Yeah,

801
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: but it's like this, Yeah, it's a fancy house.

802
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: We'll just leave it at that. All that to be said,

803
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: we are back. We are looking forward to resuming regular content.

804
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: We got many emails people like, what did the Friday

805
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: Flights return? So I think I don't know if that's

806
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: like the most desire.

807
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 3: What happened to the Friday Flights?

808
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 1: Right?

809
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: Well, well that'll come out two days from now, is

810
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: coming out on Wednesday, and we'll be back here on Friday.

811
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: The problem with the Friday Flights is just the fact that,

812
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean, when we are running Besties, you can run

813
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: an old interview episode, you can run a topic that

814
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: we you know, where we dove deep. No one, I

815
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: don't think anybody wants to hear yesterday's news from a

816
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: year ago from us.

817
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: That doesn't fly as much.

818
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: So even though all the episodes say Bestie after them,

819
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: there at the end, I think maybe I wonder if

820
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: a lot of folks missed that and they're thinking, oh sweet,

821
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: this is a great episode, which makes me feel good

822
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: about some of the older content that we put out there,

823
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: very evergreen for folks.

824
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: I started to listen to the most recent one that

825
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: we re released with Chad Carson, and I was shocked

826
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: at how relevant it still was great because interest rates

827
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: had spiked, you know, and interest rates remained incredibly high.

828
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: Although we're still there and we'll talk about this, i'm

829
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: sure in the coming weeks, but the pressure of the

830
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: FED might be feeling well, the housing market boom seems

831
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: to be officially over, and so what happens with housing

832
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: prices moving forward? That's something I'm I'm fascinated by the

833
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: housing market, and I'm sure we'll continue to talk about it.

834
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: We'll see, but that's I think that could change pretty

835
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: quickly though, because like, if the FED does feel a

836
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: little pressure, and once races do start ticking down, it's

837
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: saying okay, and market trade starts start ticking down as well,

838
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: and then home prices what do they do in response

839
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: as that demand increases, Well, you tend to see prices

840
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: go up. That is not guaranteed, and this is also

841
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: going to get played out.

842
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: I'm sure over like eighteen months, you know, months and years. Well,

843
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 3: you've still got money, your chops.

844
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: I can tell as you start talking about I can

845
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: see the fire in your eyes light up while talking

846
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: about the housing market.

847
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: If you first time I have talked about the housing

848
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: market in two months, Which is fun because okay, doesn't

849
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean we chat about actually we do talk about

850
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: I bet we do talk more about personal finance stuff,

851
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: just on a personal level, right just between between her

852
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: and I for our family as we are navigating the waters.

853
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: Sure, but yeah, and we want to help you navigate

854
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: your personal finance waters.

855
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: We'll continue that. We'll be back on Friday. Thank you

856
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 2: guys so much for listening.

857
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: And hopefully maybe some folks took a break as well,

858
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 1: right Like, maybe some folks are thinking, yeah, I tuned

859
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: out because hey, Joe and Matt took a break. I'm

860
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: going to take a break too. And hopefully you saw

861
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: from the title of this episode that we back. Yeah,

862
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: and it's time to get back on the horse, as uh,

863
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, the famous fashion designer said and Zoo Lander

864
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: so

865
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: Most step all right, appreciate you guys, Matt until next time,

866
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 2: best friends out, best friends out