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Speaker 1: Jones with you on one oh five three the Fan.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, sir. How are you doing good? Guys? How

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Oh? Doing great? Thanks. I think we're

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Speaker 1: all picking a fairly comfortable win here. The sports books

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Speaker 1: course not, you know us. I mean these games are

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Speaker 1: Fangio's and great one of the great defensive minds in

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Speaker 1: ready to play. Or that's how things happen. You know

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Speaker 1: anybody's looking past this game. Steven, I'm gonna ask you

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Speaker 1: And he's just done a hell of a job for us. Stephen,

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Speaker 1: And you know, you've had a lot of guys that

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Speaker 1: what you've seen from Cedric Wilson. Well, he's you know,

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Speaker 1: he's a former players son. He knows about being a pro.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was a quarterback, which I think always

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy will and I talk about that all the time.

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Speaker 1: that New England catch he made was unbelievable in terms

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Speaker 1: and certainly is filled in admirably for Gallup since he's

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Speaker 1: I said Wilson, Thanks so much, Stephen, have a nice

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Speaker 1: afternoon and give him hell on Sunday. We'll be pulling

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Speaker 1: for you. Great being on guys,