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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Colts Podcast. I'm Jeffrey Gorman, joined

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Speaker 1: today by JJ Stankovitch from Colts dot Com. He covers

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Speaker 1: the team better than anyone. Learra Overton, who also does

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Speaker 1: a heck of a job covering this football team. She's

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Speaker 1: on assignment today. We'll welcome here back next week, JJ.

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Speaker 1: The biggest news around the league right now is all

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Speaker 1: these coaching hires. We see defensive coordinators being hired around

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Speaker 1: the NFL and specifically here in Indianapolis. Lou Anarumo presented

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Speaker 1: at his press conference to the media. Hey here I am,

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Speaker 1: and this is what I'm planning to bring to this defense.

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Speaker 1: Your takeaways? What do you think about lou Anarumo so far?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we'll get into some of this stuff

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Speaker 2: too in the sit down we got.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. I didn't even mention that we

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Speaker 1: have lou Anarumo coming up with JJ. Sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: Lou sitting right in that chair, yep, coming up here

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Speaker 2: in a little bit. But I think just my biggest

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Speaker 2: takeaway from lou is that he his whole philosophy is

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Speaker 2: to make things difficult on opposing quarterbacks through disguising stuff,

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Speaker 2: changing the look pre snap dropping guys who you don't

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Speaker 2: expect to be dropping. And he also is a guy

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Speaker 2: who keeps a play call in his back pocket, like

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Speaker 2: it's the fourth quarter and I've had this one sitting

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Speaker 2: there and all of a sudden, bam, here it comes.

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Speaker 2: And look no further than what the Chiefs did to

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Speaker 2: wicked curveball you can possibly get on fourth and five

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Speaker 2: to win that game, to confuse Josh Allen and that

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Speaker 2: Bill's offensive line. That right there, Look, lou Anumo is

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Speaker 2: that that is where his philosophy lies. It's not necessarily

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Speaker 2: going to be you're running cover zero every time, or

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Speaker 2: you're dropping seven into coverage every time. There are gonna

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Speaker 2: be change ups in there. And then he's got that

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Speaker 2: one call that, Hey, if the situation calls for it,

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Speaker 2: work again. I think what the Chiefs did is a

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Speaker 2: same ballpark of philosophy as lu Anarumo.

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Speaker 1: There and so that and that kind of describes why

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Speaker 1: you know, some of his peers and players and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: Have called him a the mad scientist and even Lou Deeny.

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Speaker 1: It's for stuff like that. Let's not forget the run

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Speaker 1: that they had when when the Bengals went to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Great he was shutting down some quarterbacks right there,

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Speaker 1: and that's one of the you know, the biggest bright

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Speaker 1: spots on his resume.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what he I think when you get into

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Speaker 2: those games where you need help, essentially, when you're facing

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Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the league. To make it through

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Speaker 2: the AFC, You're going through mahomes Lamar, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 2: going through. You have to change the picture on them.

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Speaker 2: And that's something he emphasized in his press conference. That's

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Speaker 2: something we talked about. And to sit down, we're going

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Speaker 2: to get to here. You got to change the picture

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Speaker 2: sit back and they will pick you apart if you

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Speaker 2: don't do anything to at least make them think for

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Speaker 1: All right, let's introduce you now to the Colt's new

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Just sitting down with JJ Stakaviitz not too

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Speaker 1: long ago.

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Speaker 2: Here's lou An Arumo please to welcome to the Official

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Speaker 2: Colts Podcast, the new defensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 2: Lou and Arumolu. Thanks for taking some time. And I

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Speaker 2: kind of want to dive into just sort of like

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Speaker 2: And right before we started recording, I just sort of

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Speaker 2: brought up you. So you got your start as a

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Speaker 2: I don't know, can you explain to the Merchant Marine

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Speaker 3: So King's point, it's one of the five federal academies.

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Speaker 3: This I sound sound like I'm doing my recruiting pitch again,

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Speaker 3: But five federal academies, and the guys would be we

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Speaker 3: So but I still talk to some of those guys today.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was a great learning experience. Met Joe

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Speaker 3: I was there for three years, met some great people,

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Speaker 3: and you know, it's a great place to start. I

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Speaker 2: I think it's like a great life lesson that you

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Speaker 2: never know who might help you out someday. So just

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Speaker 2: You met Joe Philbin there, who wound up hiring you

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Speaker 2: believe you also coached them at Harvard.

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Speaker 3: We did. Yeah, yeah, just.

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Speaker 2: Like you've been through. You've been coaching now for thirty

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Speaker 2: seven years. If you're speaking to someone who's just starting

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Speaker 3: I think I love the way I came up in coaching,

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Speaker 3: because I started, you know, high school, and then on

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Speaker 3: I think all along I wanted wanted that to accelerate

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Speaker 3: to do in those situations when you're dealing with different

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Speaker 3: all that stuff as now you know now coaching in

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Speaker 2: So before you got let's talk about before you got

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Speaker 2: teach what with limited time at the Merchant Marine Academy

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Speaker 3: That's a great question. As you mentioned, you go Merchant

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Speaker 2: Now, who do you count as maybe your most the

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Speaker 2: most influential people in your life as a teacher. I

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Speaker 3: He was, yeah, principle of an elementary school for one

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Speaker 3: was fortunate enough to become friendly with Monte Kiffin over

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Speaker 4: To get the job when Mike Tomlin got hired away, so.

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Speaker 3: Mike was, Yeah, Mike left, but Raheem left to go

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Speaker 3: just the core philosophies of what he taught, how he

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Speaker 2: I read something that you you said, I think it

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Speaker 3: I believe that to be true. I mean, if you're

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Speaker 3: The core techniques that each position has doesn't change, but

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Speaker 2: How do you kind of balance. Then you know, if

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Speaker 2: that's sort of your philosophy, it sounds maybe straightforward and simple,

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Speaker 2: but how do you balance teaching it so guys can

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Speaker 3: I think it's a whole I think the way we

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Speaker 3: that we have in terms of you know, again, playing

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Speaker 3: going to play with leverage up front, playing blocks, keeping

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Speaker 3: keeping our gap integrity. But to your point, it's a

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Speaker 3: gradual process. That's not going to happen the first week

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Speaker 2: What lessons did you learn in twenty nineteen. That was

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Speaker 3: So but to your question, Uh, yeah, Joe wants to

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Speaker 3: You know. It was more that he usually didn't say that.

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Speaker 3: I think it's important that if if you don't change

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Speaker 2: With being in the AFC North, you get Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: Thing kind of goes goes into that. As you're scheming

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Speaker 3: Do off of that. Yeah, I think at some point

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Speaker 3: know now, and we'll do some of the multiple packages.

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Speaker 3: But you'd like to be able to have guys that

435
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Speaker 3: can do multiple things that it just makes it harder

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Speaker 3: on the offense.

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Speaker 2: Last one for you here kind of tying about to

438
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Speaker 2: the start, we were talking about Joe Filbin and the

439
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Speaker 2: Merchant Marine Academy and when you were in Miami. That

440
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Speaker 2: was where Dan Campbell was kind of getting his coaching start.

441
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Speaker 2: That's where he met Zach Taylor in Miami. What about

442
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Speaker 2: those two guys. I'm just curious on this, like, what

443
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Speaker 2: about those two guys maybe told you're early on these

444
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Speaker 2: guys are head coaching material. And as you got to

445
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Speaker 2: know Shane Stike and I know only you know briefly

446
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Speaker 2: through the interview process here, what qualities does he have

447
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Speaker 2: that tell you this guy's got what it takes to

448
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Speaker 2: be a really good head?

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Speaker 3: Goes Ben Johnson was lurking around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like an offensive assistant, right, Yeah, So I.

451
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Speaker 3: Used to walk I used to I used to walk down.

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Speaker 3: We had similar to here. But if I had a

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Speaker 3: question like I'm not gonna I'm gonna go ask like

454
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Speaker 3: if the sink is leak and I'm calling the plumber,

455
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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to fix it, right, So if there's

456
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Speaker 3: a question about, hey, what what's quarterback looking at here.

457
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Speaker 3: I have my thoughts. I kind of think, I know,

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Speaker 3: let's go ask the quarterback coach. So Zach was the

459
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Speaker 3: quarterback coach, Hey, Zack, what what's he? What's the progression here?

460
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Speaker 3: And that's how we really became uh tight. I would

461
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Speaker 3: go down there all the time, and he'd come down

462
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Speaker 3: for a coverage question. But yeah, I see, I see

463
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Speaker 3: the same sellers to Zach Shane. Two really smart people,

464
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Speaker 3: guys that are always ahead of the curve when it

465
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Speaker 3: comes to, you know, adapting to a to a particular

466
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Speaker 3: game plan or scheme that they want to run. Seem

467
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Speaker 3: like they're a step ahead of that of the defense

468
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Speaker 3: all the time. And you know, I've got great respect

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Speaker 3: for Shane as we you know, as we went into

470
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Speaker 3: this process and certainly now working working for him. It's

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Lou Anaruma, the new defensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 2: Lou thanks so time, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, big thanks to you, big thanks

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Speaker 1: to lou Anarumo for that. I'll tell you what my

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Speaker 1: first question is, how different personnel wise do you think

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Speaker 1: do you think at this point, I know it's early

478
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Speaker 1: in the offseason, how many new faces do we see

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Speaker 1: in that defensive.

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Speaker 4: Really good question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna it's gonna come down to

482
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Speaker 2: him getting to know his players right now and evaluating

483
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Speaker 2: how can I think fit a scheme to these guys

484
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Speaker 2: and then okay, well, what do we need to add

485
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Speaker 2: to that room. Do we need a big time playmaking cornerback.

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Speaker 2: Do we need a rangey free safety. Do we need

487
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Speaker 2: any more help on the defensive line, do we need

488
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Speaker 2: what are we gonna do at linebacker with EJ. Speed

489
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Speaker 2: being a free agent? A lot of questions that we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get answered over these next couple of weeks. I

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Speaker 2: do think the one thing that Lou emphasized when he

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Speaker 2: was talking to the media on Thursday last week was

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Speaker 2: he really likes this defensive line. The defensive line can

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Speaker 2: be the engine for this, for this entire defense. And

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Speaker 2: you know, he said he really liked Likeyatu Latu coming

496
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Speaker 2: out last year. DeForest Buckner obviously is a stalwart there.

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Speaker 2: So he's got some pieces that he likes on that

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Speaker 2: defensive line. I'm curious what he does with the back

499
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Speaker 2: end because he got some guys who played good football, right,

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Speaker 2: like a Nick Cross, like a Jalen Jones obviously, Zaire

501
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Speaker 2: Franklin in that kind of back seven. Kenny Moore the

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Speaker 2: second another guy he brought up how he's he envisions

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Speaker 2: him kind of like a Mike Hilton, who had a

504
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Speaker 2: lot of success blitzing Amanda Foster, our colleague at cults

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Speaker 2: dot Com.

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Speaker 4: Look this up.

507
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Speaker 2: Mike Hilton blitzed one hundred and seventy eight times over.

508
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Speaker 2: It was from two thousand and one twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me through twenty twenty four. No other cornerback blitzed

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Speaker 2: more than one hundred and thirty times. Interesting, So Mike Hilton,

511
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Speaker 2: he was getting he was just pressing that button with

512
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Speaker 2: Mike Hilton spamming it because Mike Kelton was good at it.

513
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Speaker 2: I think he can do kind of the same with Kenny.

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Speaker 2: Kenny's good blitzer who we maybe haven't seen that tapped into.

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Speaker 1: Good little nugget right there. Yeah, you gotta put that

516
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Speaker 1: in the back pocket right there. Alu Anarumo defense leading

517
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Speaker 1: the league in blitzes like that from somebody like he had.

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah, with what he might and Lou's not going to

519
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Speaker 2: lead the league in the number of blitz as he calls,

520
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Speaker 2: but for specific players. Hey, Kenny, Kenny's a good blitz. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Kenny is physical, he's fast, he's instinctive. We know all

522
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Speaker 2: these things about him, getting him to maybe disguise if

523
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Speaker 2: he's gonna come, if he's not a little bit more

524
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Speaker 2: frequently than we've seen in years past, I think is

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Speaker 2: going to benefit Kenny and the entire Colts defense.

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Speaker 1: Finally, when you talk about football, it's not too hard

527
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Speaker 1: to you know, block and tackle, block and tackle. Does

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Speaker 1: Agner Rumo bring in, Hey, we led the league in

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Speaker 1: miss tackles last year. Yeah, it's not gonna happen on

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Speaker 1: my watch. Well, simple, you know, basic, basic tackling. Is

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Speaker 1: that something that's going to be don't want to lead

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Speaker 1: the league again in mistackle?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I liked his answer about that on Thursday too at

535
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Speaker 2: the local media where he was asked about the mistackles

536
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Speaker 2: and he said, you know, he hears it a lot

537
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Speaker 2: where you know, you don't hit enough in practice, you

538
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Speaker 2: don't have enough time with the pads. He said, tackling

539
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Speaker 2: is mostly about angles, so you can work on that

540
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Speaker 2: in a walk through. You don't need the pads on,

541
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Speaker 2: you don't need the physicality of it. It's about angles,

542
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Speaker 2: and it's about hustle, and you got to have eleven

543
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Speaker 2: guys railing to the ball if you want to be

544
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Speaker 2: a good tackling team, because the first guy might miss

545
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Speaker 2: the You know you're going up against Saquon Barkley, He's

546
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Speaker 2: gonna make the first guy miss.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck you, Jonathan Taylor too, exactly right.

548
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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have five or six other guys who

549
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Speaker 2: are sprinting to the ball to go bring that guy

550
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Speaker 2: down before he turns? Okay, he missed a tackle and

551
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Speaker 2: now you get three extra yards? Who is gonna be

552
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Speaker 2: thirty extra yards? So there's a lot of that, and

553
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Speaker 2: then obviously the angle stuff stuff. I think he's gonna

554
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Speaker 2: constantly be preaching to these guys, and I think that'll

555
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Speaker 2: benefit him because I mean, look, these are veterans. Yeah,

556
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Speaker 2: a lot of veterans on this defense, a lot of

557
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Speaker 2: guys who have made tackles in the NFL who can

558
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Speaker 2: make tackles. A fresh voice in there I think could

559
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Speaker 2: probably help with that.

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Speaker 1: JJ along the lines of the coaching hires around the league,

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Speaker 1: and is specifically here the linebackers for this unit with EJ.

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Speaker 3: Speed.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he's a R. Franklin. We saw what Grant Stewart

564
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Speaker 1: did when he started a football game nineteen tackles linebackers

565
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Speaker 1: leading the league in tackles. Richard Smith replaced as linebacker coach.

566
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Speaker 1: James Betcher brought back in here, who does have history

567
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Speaker 1: with the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he so he was with Bruce Arians. He's brought on,

569
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Speaker 2: I think as a member of Pagano's stat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, former defensive coordinator out there as well. Yeah, Arizona.

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Speaker 2: He goes to Arizona defensive coordinator. He goes to the

572
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Speaker 2: New York Giants defensive coordinator there for a couple of years,

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Speaker 2: and then he slides back into being a linebackers coach

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Speaker 2: for Louannarumo in Cincinnati for the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw what Robert Mathis tweeted.

576
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Speaker 2: Rob tweeted that Becher is the one who taught him

577
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Speaker 2: everything you needed to learn about playing outside linebacker. So

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Speaker 2: you know, Colts aren't playing at three to four. Becher

579
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Speaker 2: is not going to be coaching up you know, Leatu

580
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Speaker 2: Latu and how to play with the two point stances

581
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Speaker 2: an outside linebacker. But that's pretty good praise coming from

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Speaker 2: Robert Mathis right there.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so Lou's putting his touches on this staff. Obviously

584
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Speaker 1: defensive backs coach and whatnot is about to come.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he yeah, the Colts have not finalized any

586
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Speaker 2: of this. The James Betcher is still kind of reported

587
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Speaker 2: out there, but we'll kind of see. Hopefully the Cults

588
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 2: are getting a little closer to finalizing that coaching staff

589
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: and getting that out there. But you know, you wouldn't

590
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Speaker 2: be surprised if Luennarumo brings some guys who he knows

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Speaker 2: into those roles and we'll kind of see where it goes.

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Speaker 1: From that good stuff. I've telling you what I'm excited

593
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Speaker 1: about this Obviously the talent level on the Colts defense.

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Speaker 1: When you're talking about the DeForest Buckner's of the world,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Moore, like you're talking about Zaira Franklin.

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Speaker 2: I also want to talk about this. I think the

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Speaker 2: Colts do have more talent than the Bengals had. I

598
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Speaker 2: saw some discussion to this of like, you know, people

599
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Speaker 2: rolling their eyes of like, oh, you know, the Colts

600
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Speaker 2: defense is no better than the Bengals in terms of talent.

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson is an awesome football player. Like, I am

602
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Speaker 2: not arguing that the Colts have anyone better than Trey

603
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Speaker 2: Hendrickson s Yeah, in two straight years.

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Speaker 4: Guy's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I think from a depth perspective, the Colts have a

606
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Speaker 2: lot of just good players on that defense, and you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe they don't have a Trey Hendrickson. I think DeForest

608
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Speaker 2: Buckner is probably the closest you got to that. But

609
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Speaker 2: he got a lot of pieces you can work with.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think there are a lot of holes

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Speaker 2: on this defense. I really don't. I think the right

612
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: scheme can unlock some stuff for certain guys. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the back end I thought you like we talked about.

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Speaker 2: I think you saw strides from Jalen Jones, from Nick Cross,

615
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Speaker 2: certain guys on the back end there that you can

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Speaker 2: work with. I really think this defense has more talent.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's not. Maybe you don't have the like the

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Speaker 2: top end, obvious All Pro type guys. Zion Franklin was

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Speaker 2: the second team All Pro. But you know, leave it

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Speaker 2: at that. There are some good players there and guys

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Speaker 2: who could be great players with the right scheme and

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Speaker 2: the right coaching around them. There's stuff that can be

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Speaker 2: unlocked there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's stay there. I like where we're at with

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Speaker 1: this thing start from the back end. Colts need help

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Speaker 1: at this in your opinion, colts need to help at

627
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Speaker 1: the safety position, potentially a veteran.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you got Julian Blackman hitting free agency.

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Speaker 2: I said it on the pod last week. I'm curious

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Speaker 2: if you might see Julian retained just because he is

631
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Speaker 2: a veteran, he does have some range back there. Colts

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Speaker 2: obviously know what he went through with the shoulder last year,

633
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Speaker 2: but you know, could you also see maybe a rookie

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Speaker 2: come in. I keep reading that it's a pretty deep

635
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Speaker 2: class for safeties sure this year, so you know, could

636
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Speaker 2: go a different route there. Yeah, and then at corner.

637
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Speaker 2: Corner is interesting because you got good play out of

638
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Speaker 2: Jalen Jones, you got good play out of Samuel Wollmack,

639
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Speaker 2: but it never felt connected. It was almost like you

640
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: would have these individual games where it's like, man like

641
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Speaker 2: Sammy Womack at a great game or Jalen Jones had

642
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Speaker 2: a great game, but they they never really were totally

643
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Speaker 2: together as a unit. So how does louin a and

644
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Speaker 2: will bring that together with those guys? And do you

645
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Speaker 2: need to add a piece in there? Do you need

646
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Speaker 2: to go say, hey, maybe we need to go get

647
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Speaker 2: like that true number one corner. Could Juju Brent still

648
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Speaker 2: be that guy if he's able to stay healthy. So

649
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: a lot of interesting questions. I think we're going to

650
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: learn about the fingerprints Lou and Romo is going to

651
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: get on this defense.

652
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: Competition always helps a team linebacker position needs.

653
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: The most important thing. Competition is the most important thing there. Yeah,

654
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 2: whatever you know on Speed and what happens with him,

655
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: Zire Franklin's going to start. Zire Franklin is is in

656
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: that realm of like, this guy's a really freaking good player.

657
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: Who's going to play next to him? Is it going

658
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: to be EJ?

659
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 4: Speed?

660
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: Is it going to be Jailen Carlis? Is Grant Stewart

661
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: going to come back? Is someone come and going to

662
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: come out from free agency? Is someone going to come

663
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: in from the draft?

664
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: Again?

665
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: That position, that kind of will linebacker next to z

666
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: where you know Zaire is going to be playing the

667
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: mic you would assume to you know that continues forward.

668
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: Are you going to bring someone in who has a

669
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: different skill set than we've seen in that position? Is

670
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: it going to be someone who's got a of her

671
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: really well, maybe that's Jalen Carlai is given his background

672
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: as a defensive back at Miszoo. Maybe it's someone else

673
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: from free agency that position. I think right there, and

674
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: whatever happens, I think you're gonna see a really high

675
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: level of competition because you have Carlies still there, right.

676
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

677
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: Interesting, you bringing a guy from free agency maybe you know,

678
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: unless you're signing him to a four year contract. Hey,

679
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna go compete with this kid, right and let's

680
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: see if that competition can make that position better at

681
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: will linebacker JJ.

682
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: Go to the defensive line room for me, let's go.

683
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: You know, interior guys, edge guys think their cults are

684
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: gonna possibly touch up that room a little bit in

685
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: the draft, possible free agency.

686
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: I think you always do. You're always trying to make

687
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: that defensive line room better. The guy who I'm interested

688
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: in here is what does Samson ebucom do Where he's

689
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: going into the final year of his contract. He obviously

690
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: missed all of last year, assuming he is back, what

691
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: level of competition can he provide coming off that Achilles?

692
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: Would you take the nine and a half sacks he

693
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: did two years ago?

694
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 4: You would?

695
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: But also I think you would take him just pushing

696
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: the rest of that room. And Samson, he's gonna come back,

697
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: He's not guaranteed to starting spot back. I've seen the

698
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: the Instagram videos he's been posting. That guy looks like

699
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: a man on a mission. You should see you should

700
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: see this stuff.

701
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: Man.

702
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: He's got like one hundred and sixty pound dumbbells that

703
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: he's pressing like fat ones. I mean like literally like

704
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: one hand as one hundred and sixty pounds in the

705
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: other end as one hundred and sixty pounds. And it's

706
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: not like a barbell where you can kind of get

707
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: under it and you know it's up on a thing

708
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: here and you kind of grab and you get under it.

709
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: It's like he's got to get those things up on

710
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: his like his KJJ dies. It is insane. Go look

711
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: at it. When he posts the next one, it's like

712
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: one of the most insane, Like we are not like

713
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: professional athletes things I've seen.

714
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty close on this. Basically, what you're

715
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: telling me is Samson ebucom is pressing JJ steak if

716
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: it's in each hand about one hundred sixty Yeah, that's

717
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: actually about correct and one hundred and sixty pounds here.

718
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: So just think of that lifting is it is aft

719
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: you're a grown man up like that one percent, We're

720
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: about ten pounds off.

721
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: He's like putting me in one hand and me in

722
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: the other hand to get that.

723
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 4: Uh it's insane.

724
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: Oh I love it.

725
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: But the point there is because he's not guaranteed a

726
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: starting spot back, that should push a lot too. That

727
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: should push Quitty pay. Yeah, that'll push Taekwon Lewis. That

728
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: I think elevates that entire room in a really healthy way.

729
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: Oh great, So much to come to. Don't forget the combine.

730
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: We are going to becoming a a from the combine.

731
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: A lot to go over there, obviously.

732
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 4: Man, that's in a month. Yeah, I know.

733
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: JJ, you're doing your backstory, You're gonna do in your research.

734
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna talk to a lot of people at the combine.

735
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. Colds dot com we'll have you

736
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: covered on everything going up there and some fun stuff

737
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: coming up to in the Pro Bowl. We got some

738
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers just around the corner this week, so colds

739
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 1: dot com will have a lot of coverage.

740
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of good stuff. What's going on in.

741
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: The off season, all right, JJ, here we go. Let's

742
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: go around the NFL a little bit. Let's go around

743
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: the NFL Jags, Texans, Titans. Let's stay in the AFC South.

744
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: Not so much player transactions, but some movement in the

745
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: AFC South when it comes to the coaching staff and

746
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: the general managers as well.

747
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

748
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: Currently, what I've seen on some social media stuff is

749
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: that like Liam Kohane has kind of been a laughing

750
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: stock down in Jacksonville based on his debut day with

751
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: the Jaguars. I just want to say this, you know

752
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 2: what else is a laughing stock on day one? Dan Campbell, right,

753
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni. Look at those, well, two pretty good coaches

754
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: there that people were talking about their press conference. Never

755
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: ever read into day one of a coach showing up

756
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: and giving a press conference or being on a video.

757
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: I don't care that Liam Cohen maybe said Duvall a

758
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: little weird. The guy was a great offensive coordinator with

759
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers. He's probably gonna do a good job with

760
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence there. Don't write off the Jaguars because the

761
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: guy maybe had a couple of weird moments, because well,

762
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: you know whatever, you're gonna bite kneecaps off Dan Campbell,

763
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: what are you talking about all of a sudden, he's

764
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: the best coach in the NFL. Nick Sirianni had that,

765
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: you know, another sort of weird first day, Well, the

766
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: guy's been Super Bowls in four years exactly.

767
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 4: Don't none of this stuff matters?

768
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: And hey, that's their thing down there in Jacksonville, Douvall,

769
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: and you know what, I'm all forward, go coach, goal,

770
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. I'm excited about it. Competition

771
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: is in our division here in the AFC South, led

772
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: by somebody as talented as Liam Cohen. I don't care

773
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: about the Duvalls. And you're absolutely right, good call on that.

774
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: With the Sirianni and the other press conferences in biting neecaps.

775
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: Saying Jonathan Gannon's done a really good job in Arizona

776
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: and for some of the stuff that happened, I mean Arizona,

777
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: he's raised the level of the talent level on that

778
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: team is here and I think he's got him to

779
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: hear what And yeah, he had some moments that were

780
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: kind of roasted on social media on day one.

781
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: He's doing a pretty good job.

782
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: A good point you said, got him from here to hear.

783
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: That's exactly what Liam Cohen did with Baker Mayfield.

784
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: That's Tampa Bay.

785
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: And now, by the way, they have a guy who

786
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: I called years ago. Maybe I'm off on this, but

787
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: I think he's has the ability at the time two

788
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: years ago to be a league MVP. He's going to

789
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: be dealing with Trevor Lawrence right now, and that's a

790
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: scary thought for the golds fans.

791
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: It is because Trevor Lawrence has a lot of untapped

792
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: POTENTI sure, sure you get him with the right coach.

793
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior is an awesome football player. I would

794
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: not be shocked if the Jaguars had a pretty big

795
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: rebound in twenty twenty five.

796
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm not disagreeing on that. Let's go

797
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: to Houston. Down there, they got rid of Bobby Slowik,

798
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator and a former Colts coach, Chris Strauser.

799
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: Let go on the offensive line down there.

800
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, their offensive line really struggled this year. They had

801
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: a lot of different combinations. They had guys who were

802
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: in and out who were hurt. Anytime you have a

803
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: bad offensive line, it's hard to be a good play caller.

804
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: Having said that, I thought you did see some concerning

805
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: things from CJ. Stroud this year that maybe weren't just

806
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: because of the offensive line. Maybe the line compounded it

807
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: so interesting that you know, Bobby Slok was a guy

808
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: who Demiico Ryans brought over from San Francisco.

809
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 4: He comes from that.

810
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 2: Shanahan Tree very interested what direction they take now going

811
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: forward because you've CJ.

812
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: Stroud.

813
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: It's a really good quarterback. He is the potential to

814
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: be a top five quarterback in this league. But you

815
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: got to get this offensive coordinator higher right now, because

816
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: you you know, the Texans won the division, they won

817
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: a playoff game, but I think they still maybe had

818
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: a disappointing season relative to expectations for that offense, which

819
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people thought was going to

820
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: go new Clear when you got Stefan Diggs, you got

821
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon in there, you think to a CJ. Stride,

822
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: You get tanked Dell Back obviously he had that horrible

823
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: injury against Kansas City on Christmas. You got Nico Collins,

824
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: but they took a step back. What can they do

825
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: to take maybe two steps forward. That's going to come

826
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: down to get in the OC hire, right right.

827
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: Right, Well, stay in that division. The Titans interesting Ran

828
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: Carthun experience lasted a couple.

829
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 4: Of years, a very interesting one.

830
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, bringing in the new GM. Bringing in the new GM.

831
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: By the way, who has the number one overall pick

832
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: in the upcoming.

833
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: NFEE what they said him and they're kind of like

834
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: their player personnel guy talked about how they don't want

835
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: to pass in a generational tent. So now that makes

836
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 2: you wonder, Okay, do you think cam Ord or should

837
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: Ur Sanders is a generational talent? Or do you think

838
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter or Abdull Carter wow is a generational.

839
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: There's those four names that have been tossed around a lot.

840
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: That's interesting, and it is interesting because you know, the

841
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: head coach has been there before the owner and with

842
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: Amy S. Trunk Adams down there, and now this new

843
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: GM comes, he has to get it right. My point

844
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: is this, we've seen across the NFL last twenty years.

845
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: You hit on a quarterback. In this case, I'm talking

846
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: about Will Levis, they needed somebody down there. You hit

847
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: on a quarterback, everything's good. You don't hit on that quarterback,

848
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: stuff becomes rocky. And we see that happening in Tennessee.

849
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: But they're trying to change it, and it's kind of

850
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: easy when he got the overall. Not easy, but it's

851
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: a little more comfortable when you got the number one. Overall.

852
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out if there is a generational talent

853
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: in one of those four that you just mentioned.

854
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's probably what you're looking at there.

855
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: Hey, we're gonna find out more. I talked and Combine

856
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: because I'm excited. We're going to talk about a lot

857
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: of those players games as well. I just want to

858
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: go around the NFL Pete Carroll your thoughts on Vegas saying, hey,

859
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: we're bringing in a seventy three year old right now

860
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: who knows how to win.

861
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: Love that move for Vegas. Yeah, I thought, I'm Pete

862
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: Carroll should still be coaching. He's seventy three, right, But man,

863
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: like I talked to him a couple of years ago

864
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: at the owners meetings. I was doing just a story

865
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: on Shane and just kind of like the pitfalls you

866
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 2: run into as a first year head coach, and Pete

867
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: Carroll was, I mean, like, you talk about a guy

868
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: who is like I went into that conversation not actually

869
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: knowing how old he was, and I remember like looking

870
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: it up, I was like, oh my god, he's seventy one.

871
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: He comes off as guy who's in his mid fifty

872
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: a lot of energy man, a lot of energy. One

873
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: of the smartest people to come through the NFL in

874
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: the last twenty years, a guy who I think is

875
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: gonna do a great job in Bankers.

876
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: Feel bad for Antonio Pierce, but somebody like Pete Carroll

877
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: out there and Tom Brady and the new ownership group

878
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: out there. You know, so a lot of stuff happened

879
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: around Let's keep going. Aaron Glenn in the Jets. I'm

880
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: bringing him up because I remember Jim Ers telling me

881
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: he was so impressed when he brought in Aaron Glenn

882
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: here before he hired Shane stich In, and Aaron Glenn

883
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: kept sticking in my head. And obviously we've seen what

884
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: he's done in Detroit. But he gets a job going

885
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: back to a place which is tough for a head

886
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: coach in New York. And also he has that thing

887
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: on his resume. Hey, I played for this team as

888
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: well as coached him.

889
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: I think it's important for the Jets to have a

890
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: guy who knows that building, yeah, where they they have

891
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: not made the playoffs since twenty.

892
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: Fourteen or something.

893
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, fourteen straight years.

894
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

895
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: If anyone can do it there, it's probably Ron Glee.

896
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

897
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: I love that higher for him. Okay Schottenheimer. Which is interesting,

898
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: Brian shot hired as a head coach of Dallas. Don't forget,

899
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: guys in the room right now. He was here, he

900
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: was on this coaching staff, and now he finally got

901
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: his first gig as an NFL head coach, and it

902
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: was with Jerry Jones at his side when he introduced

903
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: everybody right there and said, hey, it's a big risk

904
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: hiring a guy who doesn't have head coaching experience, but

905
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: we're here and that's what we're doing.

906
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: He's got to fix a thirty year drought. Yeah, they

907
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: have not made the conference championship in thirty years, which

908
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: you'd think for the Dallas Cowboys that would be I.

909
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: Would yeah, I wouldn't say if you asked me that

910
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: at a trivia night, I'd say, no, way, they've they've

911
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: they've been there in that thirty years.

912
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: I think it's double the next longest NFC team, which

913
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: is the Bears.

914
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: I think, all right, Jerry, he's trying to get it fixed.

915
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: We've talked about. What about Ben Johnson. That's an interesting

916
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: one going to Chicago. Got some talent over there, coming

917
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: from the offensive coordinator position of the Lions, who've had

918
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: so much success offensively the last couple of years. What

919
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: do you think of that one?

920
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you know I was in Chicago for

921
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: four years as part of that media corp. That is

922
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: a hornet's nest. You gotta have success early and then

923
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: he got to sustain it because now, I mean you

924
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: got Caleb william There can you get number one level

925
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: play out of Caleb Williams when, oh, by the way,

926
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels, the guy was taken second who you didn't

927
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: even bring into your building for a visit, which, by

928
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: the way, would be completely revisionis history. To criticize the

929
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 2: Bears for that, but in something that guess what they're

930
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: getting criticized for in Chicago. Guy made the NFC Championship.

931
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 2: So these stakes could not be higher for the Chicago

932
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: Bears for Ben Johnson going into that job. But look,

933
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: everything that you know I've read about him, everything that

934
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: you see about him, is that he can handle that.

935
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: The guy's a whiz in terms of what he can

936
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: bring in terms of as being a schemer. So I'm

937
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be keeping the close tabs on that one,

938
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: even though we don't play the Bears for another couple

939
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: of years. But uh man, I like that fit. I'm

940
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: very interested in how it goes.

941
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: That's gonna be something. And speaking of the Bears, while

942
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: we're here, Schottenheimer and it's just been reported, this isn't

943
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't think the US Yeah, Flus going back to

944
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: be a defensive coordinator. I mean that connection started here.

945
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: It had to them, right.

946
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: Look, Matt Eberflus is a really good defensive Yeah, I

947
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: think he knows what he's doing. Even you saw last

948
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: year and even sort of this year before the rail

949
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: the wheels kind of came off, the Bears had a

950
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: really well put together defense. They were well coached. And

951
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: that's what Maddie Berflues does. He's gonna have a defense

952
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: that plays eleven is one. They're gonna be you know

953
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: what's his whole thing, assignment alignment technique. They're gonna be physical.

954
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: That's a great hire for Dallas.

955
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: Excellent.

956
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: Now, well, just brief we spoke about it briefly, I

957
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: believe last week. But Mike Rabel. I mean as a

958
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: football fan, I like that. I like that story, winning

959
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: the championship, having the career that he did in New England,

960
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: going outside of the New England tree coaching, having success

961
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: in Yeah, now he's come back in and he's the

962
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: guy I just like the hire for football fans. I

963
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: think that's a good fit.

964
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I kind of like some of the stuff

965
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: they've done with their staff too, all right, to build

966
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: around Drake Man and Drake Mays a really good player.

967
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: Wow, I was just talking about him this morning. My gosh,

968
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: of all things, we were talking about Drake May and

969
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: that I always comes back to a guy will remain nameless,

970
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: but always said I'll never forget it. Just said, you

971
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: want Andrew Luck here he is, he's in North Carolina

972
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: right there when he was coming out so high praise

973
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: for him, and yeah it goes in. Things get a

974
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: lot easier when you got a guy that was so

975
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: much upside like Drake May has. With Mike Rabol coming in.

976
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a team that if they get I'm kind

977
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: of worried they're gonna get Travis Hunter, Yeah, and turn

978
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: him into just like a weapon on both sides. Of

979
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: the ball for Drake May and then forget the ball

980
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: back to Drake May. We'll see how that goes.

981
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: Stay there, you think that will happen. Think he's that guy.

982
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: Think he's going, Hey, I'm going to give you twenty

983
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: plays on defense, and I may give you a thirty

984
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: five on offense.

985
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 4: Are you flipping around?

986
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

987
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: I mean thirty five on d maybe twenty on zero.

988
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter's awesome. Yeah, you guys an awesome football player.

989
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: You gotta put players on it, Okay, JJ Sankovitz, I

990
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: want you to go on record right now and say

991
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: that the New Orleans Saints have not hired a head

992
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: coach up to this point because they are hiring Steve

993
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: Spagnolo of the Kansas City Jews.

994
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 4: What do you think I would be surprised to think?

995
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: Fair enough?

996
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: Fair enough?

997
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: No, a lot of this like Kellen Moore or Mike

998
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 2: McCarthy there, okay, Yeah.

999
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy sliding right in from Dallas to New Orleans. Okay,

1000
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: get to find out about it, all right, Mike.

1001
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 4: Hold on, Mike McCarthy's a good coach.

1002
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael, you look, you put his resume up against

1003
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: a lot of the guys who are considered the best

1004
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: seams in the league.

1005
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: He's right there, right there, Yeah, he's right there.

1006
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: And then to have Jerry have that sort of veteran

1007
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: leadership and a guy who knows how to win, and

1008
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: then give it to a guy who's been a lifelong coach.

1009
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: Obviously the Blood Ties. His dad, Marty Schottenheimer knows.

1010
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: Jason Garrett, right, yeah, yeah, Schottneimers kind of similar to

1011
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: Jason Garrett.

1012
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: Love it all right. Well, we're just bouncing around the

1013
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: NFL and the transactions, which we love. Colts dot Com

1014
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: has the latest of what's happening on the field as

1015
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: well as off JJ Stankowitz and Lara Overton always bringing

1016
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: you the latest and a nice reminder the combine. Man,

1017
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot of great stuff down at

1018
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: the Combine.

1019
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: Now.

1020
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: Next week is gonna be Hall of Fame announcements too.

1021
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 2: We'll find out if Adam Vin Terry or Reggie Wayne

1022
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: get in.

1023
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: Come on, Rege, come on Adam. That's it a lot

1024
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: of stuff going on, which brings me to this time

1025
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: of year, the celebration of the NFL. My question is,

1026
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: don't give me a winner. I don't want the Super

1027
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: Bowl pick or anything. Yet, I just want to know,

1028
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: were you surprised at all the way that it turned

1029
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: out with Casey obviously beating Buffalo and Casey and then

1030
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: we saw what Philly did, just dismantling Washington. But JJ

1031
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: do my first question is, did Josh Allen get the

1032
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: first down?

1033
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: Oh?

1034
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: Watch yourself could be fine?

1035
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 2: Well one of the one of the line judges said

1036
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: he got it and the other said he didn't. And

1037
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: then on replay after it was called on the field

1038
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: that he didn't, they said he didn't.

1039
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, well we got Casey and uh.

1040
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: By the way, I did I did call Casey versus

1041
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: Philly Phil last week on.

1042
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 4: The pot that a boy love it.

1043
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: I know it's a I mean, it wasn't a big stretch,

1044
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: but I'll give you it wasn't a.

1045
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 2: Big stretch, but it's it's kind of what was wanted

1046
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: to see the other matchup, right, And.

1047
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this right now. I'm not gonna tell

1048
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: you who I think is gonna win. But what I

1049
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: like about it is the scorer will be in the thirties.

1050
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: The score will be maybe maybe one year about that.

1051
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: With the I'm just say, I don't know. I'm just

1052
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: saying we got a couple of teams that don't like

1053
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: to score points, and we're gonna see the last time

1054
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: they played a couple of years ago, they put up

1055
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: a thirties.

1056
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: But I know thinks us VIC fans. I know that

1057
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: that Philly, I don't know, forget into the thirties.

1058
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: On that we will see a lot happening. Okay, we're

1059
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: going to close out with this. I've got you going

1060
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: to this event. Not only that, I've got you wearing

1061
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: face paint. The Royal Rumble is in is in Indianapolis

1062
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: this Saturday. I think you're bringing the I'm just guessing here.

1063
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: I think you're bringing the kids out there. Maybe have

1064
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: a headband down, maybe a little face paint right on

1065
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: the rail as the wrestlers are going to the ring.

1066
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: Is that's what's happening for the snank.

1067
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 4: Of Its this weekend. Now, we're going to the Pacers

1068
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 4: game that night.

1069
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough.

1070
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry to burst your bubble on that one.

1071
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: It's not a burst. That's a good call. You're going

1072
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: as a family, are going. I love that kids.

1073
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 4: The Pacers game.

1074
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a family, they've been so like the kids.

1075
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: They're five and they're starting to weigh a little bit more,

1076
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: you know, they're they're growing boys. But they want me

1077
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: to do We have this little like mini hoop, you know,

1078
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: a room in our house, and they want me to

1079
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: like pick them up and let them dunk. Got it

1080
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: while announcing like a bunch of players.

1081
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: Got it?

1082
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Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, pick them up, ands like

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Speaker 2: here's Myles Turner and here's Tyrese Haliburton. And then they

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Speaker 2: want me to keep going. And I'm like, I'm going

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Speaker 2: all the way down the Pacers roster and I'm like

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Speaker 2: I'm pulling Ben Shephard out here, and you know, give

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Speaker 2: me throw me a lifeline, right right.

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Speaker 1: You're going to old Reggie Miller for right, Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, here comes Travis Best, Like so, uh,

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Speaker 2: I need I need to get like really deep down

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Speaker 2: the Pacers roster, right so I can keep it going

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Speaker 2: because they don't want to stop with it. I think

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll learn some stuff on on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Saturday night, and they're playing the Atlanta Hawks, all right,

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Speaker 1: the Hawks are in town taking out the Pacers. JJ

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Speaker 1: Stankoviitz will be there, folks and fans. If you see

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Speaker 1: him sitting down in the arena, go up and talk

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Speaker 1: to him about the Colts, asking the questions that you want.

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Speaker 1: He's that type of guy. He's a friendly I ever seen.

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Speaker 2: I've been to a couple of Pacers games where I've

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Speaker 2: had people stop me and say, hey, you know, like

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Speaker 2: the podcast, you work all that stuff, So that's nice.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate anyone who says that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you what, you might find out stuff

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Speaker 1: off the record when a mic is in front of

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Speaker 1: your face that you find out maybe not I appreciate.

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Speaker 4: Don't put me in that spot.

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Speaker 1: All right, no royal rumble for JJ. But the Pacers

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Speaker 1: are there, and while we're in the off season, we

1110
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Speaker 1: are big Pacer fans. So you guys keep doing your thing.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate anything else on your mind.

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Speaker 4: No, let's uh, actually we're kind of hit.

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Speaker 2: We've hit the like sim to end part of the

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Speaker 2: offseason where I'm just like, all right, let's get through

1115
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Speaker 2: the super Bowl and also want to start learning about

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00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: how this Colts team is going to change in twenty

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00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: twenty five. We got DC here. Yep, you're talking about

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Speaker 2: the combine. I'm like, that's in a month. That's when

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Speaker 2: you really start to learn what things are going to

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Speaker 2: look like. So we got maybe a month before things

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Speaker 2: really pick up here.

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Speaker 1: Let's have some fun for a month, but then it

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Speaker 1: goes to one hundred miles an hour. Kevin Connors behind

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Speaker 1: the camera today. Appreciate your help and thanks to all

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Speaker 1: you people that are watching on the YouTube network as

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Speaker 1: well as listening on the Colts Audio Network. JJ Stankowitz,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. Thanks for letting me pick your

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Speaker 1: brain a little bit. It's gonna be a fun offseason

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Speaker 1: because this team is gonna change a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you what.

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Speaker 4: We're not far away.

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Speaker 1: That's that's been the mantra around here. Not far away,

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Speaker 1: and we saw that in the last couple of years

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Speaker 1: as well. But it's gonna be a different one in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. But it starts at the combine. Can't

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Speaker 1: wait for that. That's in a month again. Colts dot

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Speaker 1: com has all the latest. Keep checking back and seeing

1138
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Speaker 1: what's going on. Have a great week, have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: Good luck to everybody going to the Royal Rumble and

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Speaker 1: the Pacer fans.

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Speaker 4: On Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: Folks will do it every week for a j Stankowitz

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Speaker 1: and Lara Hulverton. I'm Jeffrey Gorman. We'll talk to you then.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm