WEBVTT - Trust Yourself featuring Jennifer Fisher 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:14.080 How many things are different since we met, since before 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:18.360 the pandemic, how my life has changed, and how things 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.000 that you didn't realize were so important are really the 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.480 important things. Right. It's not just your career, and it's 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.600 not just how you show up at work. It's really 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:30.520 the words that come out of your mouth and how 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:42.880 you live your life. Hi, Bobby, Hi on Julie, how 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.280 are you? I'm good? How are you? I'm good? Things? So, 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.120 our guests on the show is Jennifer Fisher. Who have 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.560 you ever met her? Now? I haven't, but I follow 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:58.000 her Instagram with interest. Yeah, she's very interesting. I've been 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:02.760 parallel career your path on many different times, you know, 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.240 but I hadn't met her up until I guess about 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.120 a year ago. I guess it was. I don't even 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.360 remember if it was before the pandemic. That's how you know, 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.920 crazy this year and a half, two years has been. 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:20.400 But she was asking me on um d MS on Instagram. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.120 That's how we connected, right, That's how I meet a 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:27.040 lot of people on Instagram. And we started talking and finally, 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.200 you know, I picked up the phone or she picked 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.160 up the phone, and we spoke on the phone, and 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.800 then eventually her and her husband came out to New 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.679 Jersey and we had dinner with the four of us, 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.679 talked about business, career, family, and you know, I was 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:48.000 really interested. She's a total food nut, health food nut. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.320 She's changed her life. I want to hear about what 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:54.320 she's eating. I'm really interested in her business. He was 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:58.080 a stylist before she was a jewelry designer, so she's 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:02.320 got this crazy crazy olodics and you know, connections, and 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.560 all they do is wear her jewelry. I love that 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.800 you will find this not surprising at all since you 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.480 know me, Bobby. But the way I found Jennifer Fisher 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:14.000 was not through her amazing jewelry line, but through her 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.400 banana bread recipe. But I'm now a fan of her 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.079 line as well, but I did come to her through 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.160 her food stuff. So I think just that, I think 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.800 it's really fun too that somebody as glamorous and as 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.280 talented as her also has this whole other side to 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.240 her that's really robust, and that she really is a 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.520 true multi hyphenet in that way. Well, I'm looking forward 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.520 to hopping on with Jennifer to get her recipes and 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.360 hears things. So I here goes and I hope you 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:54.000 guys enjoy this conversation. Hey Jennifer, Hi Bobby, Hi Jennifer. 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.400 I'm good, Hi Hies, how are you? Thanks for having 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.720 me well, Jen, It's so good to meet you. I'm 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.200 a big avid follower of Jennifer fisher kitchen. You are, 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.360 Oh yeah. I was telling Bobby that the way I 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.800 found you was actually through your banana broad recipe, not 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.200 through your jewelry, which kind of tells you everything you 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.239 need to know about me is that that's that was 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.840 my entry point into the world or Jennifer Fisher. I 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:18.880 love that, and then I think we have friends in 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.079 common apart from Bobby, so I've I've heard a lot 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.200 about you over the years. It's really nice to meet you. 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.160 Proferably nice to meet you too. And Jennifer, the whole 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.200 podcast is not just to talk about how you achieve 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.919 your success, but how you live your life. More So, 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.720 tell her briefly a little bit about you, because she 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:37.880 really learned about you from your food and didn't even 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.960 know you were a jewelry designer or a stylist. Bobby, 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.440 if I told you how many people a day DM 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.280 me that, they're like, wait, you're that jewel Oh my god, 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:50.000 you're the jewelry designer. Yeah, it's so crazy, It's it's insane. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:51.880 I mean, there's this, there's there's so many stories of 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:53.760 so many people. I mean a funny story too, is 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.400 a Monica Blunder, who's a friend of my name, is 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.520 a makeup artist. I guess I posted one of her 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.360 whatever things a while back and she was like, who 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.280 is this Jennifer Fisher kitchen person? I just sold like 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.880 fifty I just sold like fifty concealers or something and 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:07.440 they're like, who is this person? Who's like, Oh, it's 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.520 jewelry designer. So anyway, so you know, there's a lot 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.840 of people that um somehow. You know, food has been 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.360 such a huge thing for people coming out of COVID, 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.640 and I think you know the search for well, first 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.479 of all, I'm Johnathan Fisher. I'm a jewelry designer. I 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.560 have been uh making jewelry for about fifteen years and 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.359 is that in jewelry? And before that I was a 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:31.360 wardroom stylist. So, um, you know, the jewelry thing happened 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.480 by accident, happy accident. After I had my son Shane, 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.000 and I was giving people were giving the gifts to 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:38.960 represent him, and I didn't feel that they suited my 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:42.160 personal style or taste, and so I went out there 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.280 and I made my own and I wore this dog 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.320 tag necklace that had his full name on it, and 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.120 I would wear it on set when I was styling, 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:50.680 and I'd be on set at night, you know, with 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.000 like the grips and the gaffers, and it was this 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.080 instant conversation piece, and everyone would say what does that say? 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.640 What is that? And I just automatically sparked, sparked so 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.640 many conversations. And the moment I told and what it was, 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.800 they were asking, Oh, my wife is gonna wank? Can 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.680 you make ones my wife? Um? You know, can you 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:06.960 make a star? Can make a heart? Can you make 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.799 a different shape? And that's how the jewelry business started. 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:13.280 I started selling direct consumer customizable find jewel rate online, 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.560 um back in the day, and that's how it started. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.960 And here we are. Then you started that you had 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:24.920 this clientele of celebrities and Kardashians and all of that, right, 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.640 didn't didn't you work with all those guys? Now? You know, 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.640 I worked with a lot of people. You know. It's 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.920 so funny that Kim Kardashian thing. I that was like, 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.440 that was like in the beginning of social media and like, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.719 you know, her and I did like a barter for 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.360 something like via text or something. I mean, I still 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.320 remember doing that with her. That was so long ago. 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.520 She's amazing. She was actually amazing to deal with it. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.240 Such a smart business woman. I really have a lot 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.760 of respect for her and what she's become. Um, she's 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:49.560 a she's a class act. And her mother is an 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.880 absolutely incredible woman. UM. A lot of respect for that family. Um. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:58.240 But you know, actually my first cover was actually by 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:02.120 uh by chance. My end was a hairstylist working on 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.800 set with Uma Thurman, and she had requested a necklace 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.520 for me, and we made it for and we delivered 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.480 it the day that she was shooting a Glamor magazine 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.479 cover and she's like, I'm wearing it on the cover, 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:13.520 and so that's sort of you know, it was one 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.480 of those things where I just think it was just timing, 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.440 you know, the timing and life is so interesting how 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.719 everything happens. And it wasn't like it's not a paid thing. 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.320 It wasn't you know, it's just interesting how things happen 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.919 and everything happens for a reason, and you can't plan it. 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:26.840 People always want to like, how do I do this? 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:28.480 I'm like, there's only one way to do it, which 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.800 is to do it. Agree and put your shoes on 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.000 and just do it. And it works. It doesn't work, 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.600 it shifts exactly. I get those messages from women every day. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.040 They're like, I don't know how you do it? How 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:39.560 do you get up and do all of it every day? 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.640 It's such a daunting task, and it's like, it's really 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.880 not if you just do it right. Well. I think 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:45.760 that's one of the things. It's so impressive about you, 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.479 and it comes across so clearly on your Instagram, which 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.040 again is sort of the main vehicle and which I 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.440 know you UM is following you because you're prolific on Instagram. 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.039 We all have to talk about that in a minute, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:56.960 because you're so good on it and you're on it 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.359 all the time, and I don't know how you do it, 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.080 but you make it seems so easy and natural. Um 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.159 where people get such a peek into your day to 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.520 day in a way that I think is incredible. But 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:07.720 then you're still running this company all the time. You're 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.000 doing all these amazing collaborations and doing all those cooking 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.160 and like all the salts, Like there's so many layers 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.720 and dimensions to what you're doing on a day to 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.920 day basis. That's super impressive. But I do think that 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.640 the thing that comes across so clearly is that you 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.960 just do it. You don't make excuses, you don't overthink it. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.360 You're just like, well, we're going to take this path, 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:28.880 and we're just going to go and do it. Yeah. 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.160 I think it's about just not just being direct about 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:32.800 things and sort of just like, why are we gonna 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.320 sit there and talk about it for twenty minutes. Let's 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:35.720 just get it done. We could have done twenty other 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.560 things by the time we're done talking about it, like 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.720 or or complaining about it. We're very similar, You're we're 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.040 very similar, So what we're friends, Jennifer and I are 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.320 very similar, and I'm learning how to work closely to 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.320 people that are not like me, and it's it is 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.120 something definitely to be learned. But I do want to know, 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.240 since this podcast is called The Important Things, what has 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:59.240 changed or shifted for you since the pandemic? I mean 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.040 so much. You know, when the pandemic hit, you know, 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.120 it was terrifying for us for our business. Um, you know, 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.440 the first few days were like, oh my god, what 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.120 are we gonna do? And you know, the one thing, 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:11.880 it's one of those things that I also feel like, 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.640 you know, we're so lucky that we had built this 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:17.560 infrastructure of internal you know, que seeing and shipping, so 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.680 we technically ship all of our products and you know, ourselves. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.800 So we're a fulfillment house in New York City. Everything's 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:24.640 made in the United States, Q see it in house 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.600 and then shipped from from our offices in New York. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.720 So when everything hit, no one could come to the office. 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.360 So and suddenly everybody was like we are now on video. 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.400 Everyone was at this rectangle or square of their faces, 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.600 and everybody had to have food bearings everybody. It was 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.040 like insane like and someone had to ship them. So 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.240 I literally went in by myself and this is like, 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.480 you know, I've been so far removed before the pandemic, 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.720 you know, being the boss in my office, not really 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.280 dealing with shipping or fulfillment, and suddenly I was the 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.640 only one that could go in and get these orders 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.800 out to customers. So I would go in every day 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.520 in my workout closed with my airpo is in with 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.640 my Justin Bieber playing. I mean, it was like and 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.680 I would just go in and I would shift hundreds 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.920 of packages by myself. I would say, I felt like 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:08.800 I was Will Smith in that that movie I Am 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.200 I Am Legend where the zombies were outside and it 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.840 was like terrifying, there's no one outside. And Kevin would 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:15.360 drive me to work in the morning and he said, 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.440 God's weed, and I was, you know, me and the 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.640 UPS guys and the FedEx guys just trying to make 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.920 it work. So, you know, the things that have changed 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.960 is that you know, you you you can never be 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.040 grateful enough for the people that work for you and 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.280 make sure that your product is getting out and getting 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:32.080 delivered and you know your business is running. So you know, 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.520 it's not that I didn't respect my my employees before, 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.640 but I have a new found level of respect for 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.199 what they do because I was doing most of their 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.880 jobs for a while by myself. I wonder if that experience, 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:44.520 I mean, I wouldn't even have thought of the reality 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.160 of war all in zoom and suddenly accessories really matter 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.840 and like what, like you know, you suddenly have everyone 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.680 looking at your earrings, like what a clever thing. I 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.600 thought of glasses, but I haven't thought about other accoupra 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:58.240 mom around your around your body and your face. Um. 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.240 And it's it's super interesting because I your personal story 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.000 of how the line started after the birth of your son, 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.120 um connecting that back to why people are buying your 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.360 jewelry and this other moment in their life, like when 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.199 they're sort of everything's that's the chess board is sort 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.400 of been thrown up in the air, and now it's 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.800 something to make you feel good about yourself, to sort 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.839 of differentiate yourself on a sea full of zooms of 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.600 zoom squares um, and that that accessory you can help 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.640 you maybe feel a little bit prettier in a really 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.400 difficult time and you know, just feel like you did 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.760 something for yourself. It's sort of a small luxury. And 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.160 I'm sure that really connected you back to your line 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.240 and why you do what you do in a different way. 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.679 It did. I think people also, you know, during the pandemic, 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.160 I think a lot of people because they weren't traveling, 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.160 they weren't going to restaurants, and they're like, well, I'm 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.280 gonna buy something really nice for myself because right now 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.160 I don't know what's going on, So I'm going to 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.480 represent my family. So even just you know, the shorter 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.000 chime metasses and everyone to represent their family and what's 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.199 important to them and what we really started out doing. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.920 You know, those things, we saw a huge uptick in 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.360 because everybody was suddenly like, well, I've got now. I 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.640 couldn't buy that before and I'm not doing anything else, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.440 so now I can buy that piece of jewelry that's 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.320 going to retain its value and have it forever and 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.640 pass it down to my kids. So there's a couple 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.480 of different things that went on during that, yeah, and 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:30.160 reflect the important things. You've always been the spokesperson, but 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.800 you become the featured model in so much of your 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.040 social and half of the time you are pretty naked. Okay, 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.880 you don't many, you don't have a lot of clothes on. 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.680 You look freaking amazing because I don't think I could 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:44.800 say the word I really want to say, you look 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.280 freaking amazing. You and I have talked in our first 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:55.080 girl friendship was because we connected on Instagram about whatever 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.600 your crackers you were making, or you know what to 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.880 eat and dr will call and all of this. So 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.800 tell everyone a little bit about your you know, your 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.359 journey with your health and wellness and these amazing recipes 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.560 that I think should be your next product line. But 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.199 go ahead. I know we need I need your help 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:13.719 doing that, Bobby, We've got to get on that, or 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.199 like I'm gonna have to talk to Bobby. Uh. So, 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:18.719 you know, I for so many years, and I think 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.160 that's part of the reason why the kitchen account resonates 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.160 so much with so many people is that, you know, 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.640 I was always I grew up in you know, eighties 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:29.400 and nineties and terrible, horrible diet culture, really not taking 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:33.040 care of yourself, eating processed foods, counting calories, doing all 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.000 of the things that you really shouldn't do to be healthy. 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.280 And I, on top of that, have Hashimoto so I 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.800 have an autoimmune disease UM. So I was always struggling 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:47.720 with that extra five pounds of swelling, inflammation, just brain fog, fatigue, uh, 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.800 so many things to go along with it. And I, 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.440 you know, I recently well, I cut out I cut 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.800 out gluten years ago, but I never really stuck to it, 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:57.520 and I always sort of like went back and forth 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.559 like everybody does, Like oh, nam have French fries, and 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.200 pasta and I'm gonna go back tomorrow and then I'm 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.400 gonna eat a salad for six days. You know that's 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.680 just that really terrible sounds like me. Yeah, yeah, I don't. 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.360 I don't know who does that? What are you talking about? Terrible? 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.440 Have it? So? You know? I I And this is 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.440 so when we opened my Beverly Hill store. You know, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.080 we built a store in Beverly Hills during COVID and 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:21.480 we opened it in February UM of last year. And 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.319 you know, at that time, we were having a quarantine 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.280 for ten days in Los Angeles, going back and forth. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.760 So I was. I bought Will Cole's book, and I 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.240 was because I was always into you know, I never 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.680 really loved eating meat. Um, so I kind of just 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.400 wanted to see a new perspective. And someone had told 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.600 me about well I don't remember who it was, and 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.560 I read the book and that it's almost like this 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.640 crazy switch one off inside of my head and like 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.560 why am I messing with my body like this? This 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.360 is so damaging to me. I'm fifty, I turned fifty 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:50.320 last may, you know, and I I'm just for me 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.840 to go into like perimenopause and menopause. I wanted to 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.480 go into all of those feelings as good as I 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.640 can and as healthy as I can. And I changed 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.880 the way that I stopped eating grains. I stopped eating 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:04.040 any gums, um, you know, any sugars, and it's it's 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:05.840 kind of crazy what happened. I mean, I lost about 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:10.080 fifteen pounds of inflammation. What are gums? So there's like 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.760 war gums x anthem gum. If you go and read 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:17.040 your labels in your refrigerator, you will be floored everything 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.320 that you eat and drink like it's in It's in 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.600 almond milk. It's in everything, Yes it is, but you 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.200 could buy almond milk without it. So a lot of 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.040 people are not schooled in that they're buying the ones 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:28.960 that are that are that the big commercial ones that 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.000 everybody's buying. It's it's healthy, organic, you know, blah blah blah, 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.240 and it's all you know. It's it's lying to you. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.600 So gums are bad. Gums are bad? Gums are I 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.800 think gums are probably one of the main things that 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.960 really changed my body in terms of information, because I 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.600 didn't realize my hot sauce head gum in it. Everything 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.080 has gums. Oh my god, I have not been on 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.520 the gums. My almond flower tortillas, I thought that we're 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.520 grain free were perfect has gums in it, and the 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.520 gums are like shelf stabilizers or something like that, right, 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.960 and that's why they put it in. It's shelf stable issers. Yeah, 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.160 it's nothing we should be eating, you know. And even 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.480 your your like broths have cane sugar in it, so 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.160 you know, it's all those simple things that you can 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.080 do that if you're paying attention to the grocery store, 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.080 just take an extra second flip over whatever you're about 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.480 to buy and read what's on the in the ingredients 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.080 and if it has any of it, if it has to, 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.560 if you can't pronounce it, you shouldn't be putting your body. Yeah, 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.320 the hidden sugars is intense. It's in everything. I was 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:23.520 looking for almond milk. I was upstate and I was 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.680 choosing an almond milk that I thought I had used before, 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.880 and it seems you know, it was like fresh almond 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.120 milk whatever, and it the back was like cane sugar 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.080 was a second ingredient. I was like, why was like 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:37.360 water cane sugar almonds? Like the other one. Yeah, it 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.440 just takes that extra second to look. But it's so 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.760 easy to get tricked by the labels because the picture 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.120 was just like pretty almonds, and so I thought, exactly, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.440 You're like, it's clear getting yeah, no dairy. No dairy 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.960 is another big thing too. So you know all those 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.200 things that changed my skin, it changed my body, it 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.040 changed everything. That's so cool. And you also did this 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:59.680 amazing collaboration with um CB two CB two CB two. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.400 They're still selling it correct, Yeah, you know they they're 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.480 going to continue to sell a lot of it still too, 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.160 because I you know, it's done pretty well. I have 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:13.080 your martini glasses, which are inspired such good. I am 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.440 wearing one of your necklaces. Like, I'm not that clueless. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.160 I do understand that you are the same person now, 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.280 the jewelry designer and the food person, like I did 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.840 put it all together eventually. But the martini glasses Bobby have, 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.600 when you get these for you, they're amazing. Yeah they 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.760 don't spill, but they came from because I used to 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.320 always go to Mr we I used to drink a 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.080 ton of Lesia Martinis and Mr Chiles And you know, 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:33.760 when you get your martini it's always to the top, 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.280 and then you go to take a sick it goes 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.680 down your arm YEP. I always have to like I 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.440 lean my head forward to sip it. It's so embarrassing. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.480 I look like I'm a child, like sipping out of 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.000 my like my mother's cup or something. But how else 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:46.520 are you supposed to do it. I'm not that I 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.400 don't have stable hands like us, but yeah, your glasses 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.800 have made a huge difference. I do mind on the 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.680 rocks because then I keep adding more ice because then 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.120 I drink less vodka. But I have a healthy version. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:03.520 I've started um juicing my cucumbers and cucumbers and vodka, 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.040 so it is a diuretic. It's so good and you 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.320 feel and you're hydrated the next day. So no, that's 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.080 my news thing. My god, I love you so much. 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.200 That's amazing. Yeah, it's spa night, you know. It's okay, 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.520 it's spa night. I need my cucumber juice to go 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.440 with my vodka. Okay, that's gonna be the TWEETA bowl 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:24.280 of this episode is Bobbies tip for healthy living is 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:30.240 the diuretic combination of cucumber and vodka. Vodka and cucumber well, 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.680 first of all, I'm fifteen years older than you, Jennifer, 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:37.800 and I have I have really learned that being in 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:42.119 the moment, being with the people I love sometimes requires 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.600 me to go outside of my comfort level when it 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.040 comes to food, Like I do the best I can, 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.920 but I do kind of you know, you would think 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.399 I was totally off. You know, the walls. We were 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.040 in Paris at the same time. I ate cheese, I 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.240 ate bread, I ate French fries, I ate cheese, I bread, 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.879 French fry, and martiniz I didn't. You didn't. I did. No, 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:05.560 you have to find like the luxury of like a 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.080 seafood tower, like that's so beautiful, and to eat all 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.159 of that fresh seafood instead of the instead of the 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.280 French fries and the bread and the butter and the cheese, 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.600 I mean I could. I actually, honestly, it was weird, 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.880 like I didn't even want it. And we were doing 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:18.800 like a major foodie version I Want with two of 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.679 my new girlfriends and a major foodie version of Paris. 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.040 So we hit all the spots and I didn't do it, 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.200 and you were just fine, like you didn't care, because 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.760 I don't. I am very not that person who cannot 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.160 eat the cheese and the gin Martiniz and all them 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.360 me neither. You know what, I've been there so much 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.240 for work, Like I was like, you know what, I've 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.560 done this, Like I'm gonna do this my way now, 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.560 my new way. I just brought a bunch of stuff 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.600 and it was totally fun. And you do all the baking, 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:48.640 all the cooking. You don't have a chefon. That's that's 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.320 one thing that kills me to They're like, where's the 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.320 secret housekeeper that's doing all your dishes. I'm like, it's 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.880