Speaker 1: How many things are different since we met, since before
Speaker 1: the pandemic, how my life has changed, and how things
Speaker 1: that you didn't realize were so important are really the
Speaker 1: important things. Right. It's not just your career, and it's
Speaker 1: not just how you show up at work. It's really
Speaker 1: the words that come out of your mouth and how
Speaker 1: you live your life. Hi, Bobby, Hi on Julie, how
Speaker 1: are you? I'm good? How are you? I'm good? Things? So,
Speaker 1: our guests on the show is Jennifer Fisher. Who have
Speaker 1: you ever met her? Now? I haven't, but I follow
Speaker 1: her Instagram with interest. Yeah, she's very interesting. I've been
Speaker 1: parallel career your path on many different times, you know,
Speaker 1: but I hadn't met her up until I guess about
Speaker 1: a year ago. I guess it was. I don't even
Speaker 1: remember if it was before the pandemic. That's how you know,
Speaker 1: crazy this year and a half, two years has been.
Speaker 1: But she was asking me on um d MS on Instagram.
Speaker 1: That's how we connected, right, That's how I meet a
Speaker 1: lot of people on Instagram. And we started talking and finally,
Speaker 1: you know, I picked up the phone or she picked
Speaker 1: up the phone, and we spoke on the phone, and
Speaker 1: then eventually her and her husband came out to New
Speaker 1: Jersey and we had dinner with the four of us,
Speaker 1: talked about business, career, family, and you know, I was
Speaker 1: really interested. She's a total food nut, health food nut.
Speaker 1: She's changed her life. I want to hear about what
Speaker 1: she's eating. I'm really interested in her business. He was
Speaker 1: a stylist before she was a jewelry designer, so she's
Speaker 1: got this crazy crazy olodics and you know, connections, and
Speaker 1: all they do is wear her jewelry. I love that
Speaker 1: you will find this not surprising at all since you
Speaker 1: know me, Bobby. But the way I found Jennifer Fisher
Speaker 1: was not through her amazing jewelry line, but through her
Speaker 1: banana bread recipe. But I'm now a fan of her
Speaker 1: line as well, but I did come to her through
Speaker 1: her food stuff. So I think just that, I think
Speaker 1: it's really fun too that somebody as glamorous and as
Speaker 1: talented as her also has this whole other side to
Speaker 1: her that's really robust, and that she really is a
Speaker 1: true multi hyphenet in that way. Well, I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to hopping on with Jennifer to get her recipes and
Speaker 1: hears things. So I here goes and I hope you
Speaker 1: guys enjoy this conversation. Hey Jennifer, Hi Bobby, Hi Jennifer.
Speaker 1: I'm good, Hi Hies, how are you? Thanks for having
Speaker 1: me well, Jen, It's so good to meet you. I'm
Speaker 1: a big avid follower of Jennifer fisher kitchen. You are,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I was telling Bobby that the way I
Speaker 1: found you was actually through your banana broad recipe, not
Speaker 1: through your jewelry, which kind of tells you everything you
Speaker 1: need to know about me is that that's that was
Speaker 1: my entry point into the world or Jennifer Fisher. I
Speaker 1: love that, and then I think we have friends in
Speaker 1: common apart from Bobby, so I've I've heard a lot
Speaker 1: about you over the years. It's really nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: Proferably nice to meet you too. And Jennifer, the whole
Speaker 1: podcast is not just to talk about how you achieve
Speaker 1: your success, but how you live your life. More So,
Speaker 1: tell her briefly a little bit about you, because she
Speaker 1: really learned about you from your food and didn't even
Speaker 1: know you were a jewelry designer or a stylist. Bobby,
Speaker 1: if I told you how many people a day DM
Speaker 1: me that, they're like, wait, you're that jewel Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you're the jewelry designer. Yeah, it's so crazy, It's it's insane.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's this, there's there's so many stories of
Speaker 1: so many people. I mean a funny story too, is
Speaker 1: a Monica Blunder, who's a friend of my name, is
Speaker 1: a makeup artist. I guess I posted one of her
Speaker 1: whatever things a while back and she was like, who
Speaker 1: is this Jennifer Fisher kitchen person? I just sold like
Speaker 1: fifty I just sold like fifty concealers or something and
Speaker 1: they're like, who is this person? Who's like, Oh, it's
Speaker 1: jewelry designer. So anyway, so you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that um somehow. You know, food has been
Speaker 1: such a huge thing for people coming out of COVID,
Speaker 1: and I think you know the search for well, first
Speaker 1: of all, I'm Johnathan Fisher. I'm a jewelry designer. I
Speaker 1: have been uh making jewelry for about fifteen years and
Speaker 1: is that in jewelry? And before that I was a
Speaker 1: wardroom stylist. So, um, you know, the jewelry thing happened
Speaker 1: by accident, happy accident. After I had my son Shane,
Speaker 1: and I was giving people were giving the gifts to
Speaker 1: represent him, and I didn't feel that they suited my
Speaker 1: personal style or taste, and so I went out there
Speaker 1: and I made my own and I wore this dog
Speaker 1: tag necklace that had his full name on it, and
Speaker 1: I would wear it on set when I was styling,
Speaker 1: and I'd be on set at night, you know, with
Speaker 1: like the grips and the gaffers, and it was this
Speaker 1: instant conversation piece, and everyone would say what does that say?
Speaker 1: What is that? And I just automatically sparked, sparked so
Speaker 1: many conversations. And the moment I told and what it was,
Speaker 1: they were asking, Oh, my wife is gonna wank? Can
Speaker 1: you make ones my wife? Um? You know, can you
Speaker 1: make a star? Can make a heart? Can you make
Speaker 1: a different shape? And that's how the jewelry business started.
Speaker 1: I started selling direct consumer customizable find jewel rate online,
Speaker 1: um back in the day, and that's how it started.
Speaker 1: And here we are. Then you started that you had
Speaker 1: this clientele of celebrities and Kardashians and all of that, right,
Speaker 1: didn't didn't you work with all those guys? Now? You know,
Speaker 1: I worked with a lot of people. You know. It's
Speaker 1: so funny that Kim Kardashian thing. I that was like,
Speaker 1: that was like in the beginning of social media and like,
Speaker 1: you know, her and I did like a barter for
Speaker 1: something like via text or something. I mean, I still
Speaker 1: remember doing that with her. That was so long ago.
Speaker 1: She's amazing. She was actually amazing to deal with it.
Speaker 1: Such a smart business woman. I really have a lot
Speaker 1: of respect for her and what she's become. Um, she's
Speaker 1: a she's a class act. And her mother is an
Speaker 1: absolutely incredible woman. UM. A lot of respect for that family. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know, actually my first cover was actually by
Speaker 1: uh by chance. My end was a hairstylist working on
Speaker 1: set with Uma Thurman, and she had requested a necklace
Speaker 1: for me, and we made it for and we delivered
Speaker 1: it the day that she was shooting a Glamor magazine
Speaker 1: cover and she's like, I'm wearing it on the cover,
Speaker 1: and so that's sort of you know, it was one
Speaker 1: of those things where I just think it was just timing,
Speaker 1: you know, the timing and life is so interesting how
Speaker 1: everything happens. And it wasn't like it's not a paid thing.
Speaker 1: It wasn't you know, it's just interesting how things happen
Speaker 1: and everything happens for a reason, and you can't plan it.
Speaker 1: People always want to like, how do I do this?
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's only one way to do it, which
Speaker 1: is to do it. Agree and put your shoes on
Speaker 1: and just do it. And it works. It doesn't work,
Speaker 1: it shifts exactly. I get those messages from women every day.
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't know how you do it? How
Speaker 1: do you get up and do all of it every day?
Speaker 1: It's such a daunting task, and it's like, it's really
Speaker 1: not if you just do it right. Well. I think
Speaker 1: that's one of the things. It's so impressive about you,
Speaker 1: and it comes across so clearly on your Instagram, which
Speaker 1: again is sort of the main vehicle and which I
Speaker 1: know you UM is following you because you're prolific on Instagram.
Speaker 1: We all have to talk about that in a minute,
Speaker 1: because you're so good on it and you're on it
Speaker 1: all the time, and I don't know how you do it,
Speaker 1: but you make it seems so easy and natural. Um
Speaker 1: where people get such a peek into your day to
Speaker 1: day in a way that I think is incredible. But
Speaker 1: then you're still running this company all the time. You're
Speaker 1: doing all these amazing collaborations and doing all those cooking
Speaker 1: and like all the salts, Like there's so many layers
Speaker 1: and dimensions to what you're doing on a day to
Speaker 1: day basis. That's super impressive. But I do think that
Speaker 1: the thing that comes across so clearly is that you
Speaker 1: just do it. You don't make excuses, you don't overthink it.
Speaker 1: You're just like, well, we're going to take this path,
Speaker 1: and we're just going to go and do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's about just not just being direct about
Speaker 1: things and sort of just like, why are we gonna
Speaker 1: sit there and talk about it for twenty minutes. Let's
Speaker 1: just get it done. We could have done twenty other
Speaker 1: things by the time we're done talking about it, like
Speaker 1: or or complaining about it. We're very similar, You're we're
Speaker 1: very similar, So what we're friends, Jennifer and I are
Speaker 1: very similar, and I'm learning how to work closely to
Speaker 1: people that are not like me, and it's it is
Speaker 1: something definitely to be learned. But I do want to know,
Speaker 1: since this podcast is called The Important Things, what has
Speaker 1: changed or shifted for you since the pandemic? I mean
Speaker 1: so much. You know, when the pandemic hit, you know,
Speaker 1: it was terrifying for us for our business. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: the first few days were like, oh my god, what
Speaker 1: are we gonna do? And you know, the one thing,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that I also feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're so lucky that we had built this
Speaker 1: infrastructure of internal you know, que seeing and shipping, so
Speaker 1: we technically ship all of our products and you know, ourselves.
Speaker 1: So we're a fulfillment house in New York City. Everything's
Speaker 1: made in the United States, Q see it in house
Speaker 1: and then shipped from from our offices in New York.
Speaker 1: So when everything hit, no one could come to the office.
Speaker 1: So and suddenly everybody was like we are now on video.
Speaker 1: Everyone was at this rectangle or square of their faces,
Speaker 1: and everybody had to have food bearings everybody. It was
Speaker 1: like insane like and someone had to ship them. So
Speaker 1: I literally went in by myself and this is like,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been so far removed before the pandemic,
Speaker 1: you know, being the boss in my office, not really
Speaker 1: dealing with shipping or fulfillment, and suddenly I was the
Speaker 1: only one that could go in and get these orders
Speaker 1: out to customers. So I would go in every day
Speaker 1: in my workout closed with my airpo is in with
Speaker 1: my Justin Bieber playing. I mean, it was like and
Speaker 1: I would just go in and I would shift hundreds
Speaker 1: of packages by myself. I would say, I felt like
Speaker 1: I was Will Smith in that that movie I Am
Speaker 1: I Am Legend where the zombies were outside and it
Speaker 1: was like terrifying, there's no one outside. And Kevin would
Speaker 1: drive me to work in the morning and he said,
Speaker 1: God's weed, and I was, you know, me and the
Speaker 1: UPS guys and the FedEx guys just trying to make
Speaker 1: it work. So, you know, the things that have changed
Speaker 1: is that you know, you you you can never be
Speaker 1: grateful enough for the people that work for you and
Speaker 1: make sure that your product is getting out and getting
Speaker 1: delivered and you know your business is running. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's not that I didn't respect my my employees before,
Speaker 1: but I have a new found level of respect for
Speaker 1: what they do because I was doing most of their
Speaker 1: jobs for a while by myself. I wonder if that experience,
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't even have thought of the reality
Speaker 1: of war all in zoom and suddenly accessories really matter
Speaker 1: and like what, like you know, you suddenly have everyone
Speaker 1: looking at your earrings, like what a clever thing. I
Speaker 1: thought of glasses, but I haven't thought about other accoupra
Speaker 1: mom around your around your body and your face. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's it's super interesting because I your personal story
Speaker 1: of how the line started after the birth of your son,
Speaker 1: um connecting that back to why people are buying your
Speaker 1: jewelry and this other moment in their life, like when
Speaker 1: they're sort of everything's that's the chess board is sort
Speaker 1: of been thrown up in the air, and now it's
Speaker 1: something to make you feel good about yourself, to sort
Speaker 1: of differentiate yourself on a sea full of zooms of
Speaker 1: zoom squares um, and that that accessory you can help
Speaker 1: you maybe feel a little bit prettier in a really
Speaker 1: difficult time and you know, just feel like you did
Speaker 1: something for yourself. It's sort of a small luxury. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure that really connected you back to your line
Speaker 1: and why you do what you do in a different way.
Speaker 1: It did. I think people also, you know, during the pandemic,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people because they weren't traveling,
Speaker 1: they weren't going to restaurants, and they're like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna buy something really nice for myself because right now
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, So I'm going to
Speaker 1: represent my family. So even just you know, the shorter
Speaker 1: chime metasses and everyone to represent their family and what's
Speaker 1: important to them and what we really started out doing.
Speaker 1: You know, those things, we saw a huge uptick in
Speaker 1: because everybody was suddenly like, well, I've got now. I
Speaker 1: couldn't buy that before and I'm not doing anything else,
Speaker 1: so now I can buy that piece of jewelry that's
Speaker 1: going to retain its value and have it forever and
Speaker 1: pass it down to my kids. So there's a couple
Speaker 1: of different things that went on during that, yeah, and
Speaker 1: reflect the important things. You've always been the spokesperson, but
Speaker 1: you become the featured model in so much of your
Speaker 1: social and half of the time you are pretty naked. Okay,
Speaker 1: you don't many, you don't have a lot of clothes on.
Speaker 1: You look freaking amazing because I don't think I could
Speaker 1: say the word I really want to say, you look
Speaker 1: freaking amazing. You and I have talked in our first
Speaker 1: girl friendship was because we connected on Instagram about whatever
Speaker 1: your crackers you were making, or you know what to
Speaker 1: eat and dr will call and all of this. So
Speaker 1: tell everyone a little bit about your you know, your
Speaker 1: journey with your health and wellness and these amazing recipes
Speaker 1: that I think should be your next product line. But
Speaker 1: go ahead. I know we need I need your help
Speaker 1: doing that, Bobby, We've got to get on that, or
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna have to talk to Bobby. Uh. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I for so many years, and I think
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why the kitchen account resonates
Speaker 1: so much with so many people is that, you know,
Speaker 1: I was always I grew up in you know, eighties
Speaker 1: and nineties and terrible, horrible diet culture, really not taking
Speaker 1: care of yourself, eating processed foods, counting calories, doing all
Speaker 1: of the things that you really shouldn't do to be healthy.
Speaker 1: And I, on top of that, have Hashimoto so I
Speaker 1: have an autoimmune disease UM. So I was always struggling
Speaker 1: with that extra five pounds of swelling, inflammation, just brain fog, fatigue, uh,
Speaker 1: so many things to go along with it. And I,
Speaker 1: you know, I recently well, I cut out I cut
Speaker 1: out gluten years ago, but I never really stuck to it,
Speaker 1: and I always sort of like went back and forth
Speaker 1: like everybody does, Like oh, nam have French fries, and
Speaker 1: pasta and I'm gonna go back tomorrow and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna eat a salad for six days. You know that's
Speaker 1: just that really terrible sounds like me. Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know who does that? What are you talking about? Terrible?
Speaker 1: Have it? So? You know? I I And this is
Speaker 1: so when we opened my Beverly Hill store. You know,
Speaker 1: we built a store in Beverly Hills during COVID and
Speaker 1: we opened it in February UM of last year. And
Speaker 1: you know, at that time, we were having a quarantine
Speaker 1: for ten days in Los Angeles, going back and forth.
Speaker 1: So I was. I bought Will Cole's book, and I
Speaker 1: was because I was always into you know, I never
Speaker 1: really loved eating meat. Um, so I kind of just
Speaker 1: wanted to see a new perspective. And someone had told
Speaker 1: me about well I don't remember who it was, and
Speaker 1: I read the book and that it's almost like this
Speaker 1: crazy switch one off inside of my head and like
Speaker 1: why am I messing with my body like this? This
Speaker 1: is so damaging to me. I'm fifty, I turned fifty
Speaker 1: last may, you know, and I I'm just for me
Speaker 1: to go into like perimenopause and menopause. I wanted to
Speaker 1: go into all of those feelings as good as I
Speaker 1: can and as healthy as I can. And I changed
Speaker 1: the way that I stopped eating grains. I stopped eating
Speaker 1: any gums, um, you know, any sugars, and it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of crazy what happened. I mean, I lost about
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds of inflammation. What are gums? So there's like
Speaker 1: war gums x anthem gum. If you go and read
Speaker 1: your labels in your refrigerator, you will be floored everything
Speaker 1: that you eat and drink like it's in It's in
Speaker 1: almond milk. It's in everything, Yes it is, but you
Speaker 1: could buy almond milk without it. So a lot of
Speaker 1: people are not schooled in that they're buying the ones
Speaker 1: that are that are that the big commercial ones that
Speaker 1: everybody's buying. It's it's healthy, organic, you know, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and it's all you know. It's it's lying to you.
Speaker 1: So gums are bad. Gums are bad? Gums are I
Speaker 1: think gums are probably one of the main things that
Speaker 1: really changed my body in terms of information, because I
Speaker 1: didn't realize my hot sauce head gum in it. Everything
Speaker 1: has gums. Oh my god, I have not been on
Speaker 1: the gums. My almond flower tortillas, I thought that we're
Speaker 1: grain free were perfect has gums in it, and the
Speaker 1: gums are like shelf stabilizers or something like that, right,
Speaker 1: and that's why they put it in. It's shelf stable issers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's nothing we should be eating, you know. And even
Speaker 1: your your like broths have cane sugar in it, so
Speaker 1: you know, it's all those simple things that you can
Speaker 1: do that if you're paying attention to the grocery store,
Speaker 1: just take an extra second flip over whatever you're about
Speaker 1: to buy and read what's on the in the ingredients
Speaker 1: and if it has any of it, if it has to,
Speaker 1: if you can't pronounce it, you shouldn't be putting your body. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the hidden sugars is intense. It's in everything. I was
Speaker 1: looking for almond milk. I was upstate and I was
Speaker 1: choosing an almond milk that I thought I had used before,
Speaker 1: and it seems you know, it was like fresh almond
Speaker 1: milk whatever, and it the back was like cane sugar
Speaker 1: was a second ingredient. I was like, why was like
Speaker 1: water cane sugar almonds? Like the other one. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: just takes that extra second to look. But it's so
Speaker 1: easy to get tricked by the labels because the picture
Speaker 1: was just like pretty almonds, and so I thought, exactly,
Speaker 1: You're like, it's clear getting yeah, no dairy. No dairy
Speaker 1: is another big thing too. So you know all those
Speaker 1: things that changed my skin, it changed my body, it
Speaker 1: changed everything. That's so cool. And you also did this
Speaker 1: amazing collaboration with um CB two CB two CB two.
Speaker 1: They're still selling it correct, Yeah, you know they they're
Speaker 1: going to continue to sell a lot of it still too,
Speaker 1: because I you know, it's done pretty well. I have
Speaker 1: your martini glasses, which are inspired such good. I am
Speaker 1: wearing one of your necklaces. Like, I'm not that clueless.
Speaker 1: I do understand that you are the same person now,
Speaker 1: the jewelry designer and the food person, like I did
Speaker 1: put it all together eventually. But the martini glasses Bobby have,
Speaker 1: when you get these for you, they're amazing. Yeah they
Speaker 1: don't spill, but they came from because I used to
Speaker 1: always go to Mr we I used to drink a
Speaker 1: ton of Lesia Martinis and Mr Chiles And you know,
Speaker 1: when you get your martini it's always to the top,
Speaker 1: and then you go to take a sick it goes
Speaker 1: down your arm YEP. I always have to like I
Speaker 1: lean my head forward to sip it. It's so embarrassing.
Speaker 1: I look like I'm a child, like sipping out of
Speaker 1: my like my mother's cup or something. But how else
Speaker 1: are you supposed to do it. I'm not that I
Speaker 1: don't have stable hands like us, but yeah, your glasses
Speaker 1: have made a huge difference. I do mind on the
Speaker 1: rocks because then I keep adding more ice because then
Speaker 1: I drink less vodka. But I have a healthy version.
Speaker 1: I've started um juicing my cucumbers and cucumbers and vodka,
Speaker 1: so it is a diuretic. It's so good and you
Speaker 1: feel and you're hydrated the next day. So no, that's
Speaker 1: my news thing. My god, I love you so much.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, it's spa night, you know. It's okay,
Speaker 1: it's spa night. I need my cucumber juice to go
Speaker 1: with my vodka. Okay, that's gonna be the TWEETA bowl
Speaker 1: of this episode is Bobbies tip for healthy living is
Speaker 1: the diuretic combination of cucumber and vodka. Vodka and cucumber well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I'm fifteen years older than you, Jennifer,
Speaker 1: and I have I have really learned that being in
Speaker 1: the moment, being with the people I love sometimes requires
Speaker 1: me to go outside of my comfort level when it
Speaker 1: comes to food, Like I do the best I can,
Speaker 1: but I do kind of you know, you would think
Speaker 1: I was totally off. You know, the walls. We were
Speaker 1: in Paris at the same time. I ate cheese, I
Speaker 1: ate bread, I ate French fries, I ate cheese, I bread,
Speaker 1: French fry, and martiniz I didn't. You didn't. I did. No,
Speaker 1: you have to find like the luxury of like a
Speaker 1: seafood tower, like that's so beautiful, and to eat all
Speaker 1: of that fresh seafood instead of the instead of the
Speaker 1: French fries and the bread and the butter and the cheese,
Speaker 1: I mean I could. I actually, honestly, it was weird,
Speaker 1: like I didn't even want it. And we were doing
Speaker 1: like a major foodie version I Want with two of
Speaker 1: my new girlfriends and a major foodie version of Paris.
Speaker 1: So we hit all the spots and I didn't do it,
Speaker 1: and you were just fine, like you didn't care, because
Speaker 1: I don't. I am very not that person who cannot
Speaker 1: eat the cheese and the gin Martiniz and all them
Speaker 1: me neither. You know what, I've been there so much
Speaker 1: for work, Like I was like, you know what, I've
Speaker 1: done this, Like I'm gonna do this my way now,
Speaker 1: my new way. I just brought a bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: and it was totally fun. And you do all the baking,
Speaker 1: all the cooking. You don't have a chefon. That's that's
Speaker 1: one thing that kills me to They're like, where's the
Speaker 1: secret housekeeper that's doing all your dishes. I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: called meat. Like I work gloves. I'm like I can
Speaker 1: tell you guys how to clean the pots and pans
Speaker 1: because I do it all. I'm like, you know, baking
Speaker 1: soda and lemon, Like I'm always giving people tips. Like
Speaker 1: it's just me and my kitchen. Like I always say,
Speaker 1: I don't go to therapy. I cook. It's like I think,
Speaker 1: and I think it's resonates with the people that I
Speaker 1: really just I love doing it because like I can't
Speaker 1: wait to get home at the end of my day
Speaker 1: because the only time I really get to see my
Speaker 1: kids is at the end of the day when they're
Speaker 1: done with their steps because I've got you know, one
Speaker 1: of my sons a junior, my daughter is a freshman,
Speaker 1: and you know, they're both on totally different schedules, and
Speaker 1: so it's really not like seven to nine o'clock time
Speaker 1: that I get to see my kids. So if I'm
Speaker 1: in the kitchen cooking where they're eating dinner, I'm around
Speaker 1: my kids when your family dinner is getting really really
Speaker 1: hard to do, Yeah, because what do they eat? What
Speaker 1: do you cook for them? They regular for my kids
Speaker 1: eat gluten, My kids eat dairy, My kids eat so
Speaker 1: I have all that stuff in my refrigerator. So are
Speaker 1: you making everything? You're making like separate meals for Kevin,
Speaker 1: for Keto Kevin, separate meals for you and for your kids.
Speaker 1: I can't even how how do you find the hours
Speaker 1: to do this? That's amazing. It's not I you prep
Speaker 1: run protein per night, So I prep a protein. My
Speaker 1: kids don't love fish the way that I do. They'll
Speaker 1: eat the shrimp when I make the shrimp. But if
Speaker 1: I'm making like a salmon or something, I don't love it,
Speaker 1: so I'll do like a steak or a chicken with
Speaker 1: But it's really I do one protein per night. I
Speaker 1: always make sure that I have rice or pasta made
Speaker 1: for them. It's already ready to go. And it's really
Speaker 1: like a lot of just reheating stuff. It's like it's
Speaker 1: not you know, I'll like this morning, I made a
Speaker 1: big batch of baking because I knew it was Monday,
Speaker 1: and Shane wants a bacon, egg and cheese every day
Speaker 1: of the week, and so I'm not having to do
Speaker 1: all this stuff. So I think it's just a matter
Speaker 1: of kind of being organized and thoughtful about how you
Speaker 1: a stock your refrigerator with stuff so you have everything
Speaker 1: that you need, and then being just sort of doing
Speaker 1: things in advance. Yeah, that seems to be the key.
Speaker 1: I think that's what's Uh. Yeah, that's my takeaway from
Speaker 1: this conversation so far as that I'm not organized, it's
Speaker 1: really what it got out. I'm much for a haphazard
Speaker 1: I have a question. Do you ever have a need
Speaker 1: to recharge? Do you get tired? I'm tired today. I
Speaker 1: had a really bad night sleep last night. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: for me recharging is different, Like for me, recharging is
Speaker 1: sort of like I just need like time nuts, you know,
Speaker 1: I do do TM me too, which I have. I
Speaker 1: love TM loved, but I haven't really been doing it lately,
Speaker 1: to be completely honest, Um, but it's for me. It's
Speaker 1: more of like you, Okay, I just have to sit
Speaker 1: there and focus and re shift because there's so many
Speaker 1: different things that I have to focus on every day.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm the creative director of the brand. I
Speaker 1: do all the designing myself. I do the creative direction
Speaker 1: for all the all everything that we do. You know,
Speaker 1: I've got my food, my kids, my family, my son.
Speaker 1: We're starting to look at colleges. So it's just sort
Speaker 1: of like, you know, whatever is going on with our
Speaker 1: business intern whatever I've got to you know, approve bad copy,
Speaker 1: but like whatever needs to get done, I just need
Speaker 1: to like take a second and reorganize myself sort of. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go again. I do a lot of breathing too,
Speaker 1: and that's helpful. Also, you haven't taken a breath this
Speaker 1: whole conversation. When does the breathing topic. I'm so inspired
Speaker 1: by your energy. I'm gonna clean up my diet. I'm
Speaker 1: throwing everything out, like, let's start all over again. Wit
Speaker 1: So when I don't believe you'll help you, We're going
Speaker 1: to go out for cheese the first opportunity, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So in your entire life, what do
Speaker 1: you say are the important things, like from the time
Speaker 1: you were born, Like what are those things? Uh? Well,
Speaker 1: health is the most important thing, because if you don't
Speaker 1: have that, we don't have anything. So I've really have
Speaker 1: come to appreciate that with all the things that I've
Speaker 1: gone through through life. But also I think, um, you know,
Speaker 1: work ethic is really really important, and I think people
Speaker 1: you know, knowing that you're going to do the right
Speaker 1: thing in business too, and do the right thing by people. Um.
Speaker 1: You know that my father taught me that at a
Speaker 1: very young age. My father was an entrepreneur. And you know,
Speaker 1: always with every business that I had or did, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Um, you know. I had started
Speaker 1: my first fluttoneering business when they are in Vegas one
Speaker 1: weekend with my babysitter called JJ Flettneers. But I was
Speaker 1: like a serial entrepreneur, Like I was like I was
Speaker 1: a kid. They would like go pick your flowers out
Speaker 1: of your yard and make a bouquet and knock on
Speaker 1: the door and but like to buy some flowers. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's my kid. I'm gonna send my kid
Speaker 1: over to you. She hasn't learned to cook. And yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think like integrity, you know, all those
Speaker 1: things are really really important. Um, you know, also learning
Speaker 1: to you know, I was reading through what we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about in this and I was thinking about,
Speaker 1: you know, the things that are really really important, and
Speaker 1: it's it's so important to to learn how to listen
Speaker 1: to yourself and your gut feelings and what you think
Speaker 1: is right over what other people are chirping in your
Speaker 1: ear and telling you what they should do. Because no
Speaker 1: one what you should do, because no one's been through
Speaker 1: what you've been through. No one's doing what you're doing,
Speaker 1: you know, so you need to listen to yourself and
Speaker 1: what you think is right for you and your business
Speaker 1: and your life. Well, then, who has been the greatest
Speaker 1: impact in your life? Well, there's a few people. I
Speaker 1: mean my parents, I mean, I have to say I
Speaker 1: had amazing I have a very amazing parents. My mom
Speaker 1: taught me how to be self assured and confident. My
Speaker 1: father taught me business um and how to hustle UM
Speaker 1: at a very early age. And so those things really
Speaker 1: make me who I am. And so you know, as
Speaker 1: Kevin and I Kevin is also a very important person
Speaker 1: in my life to my husband. I. You know, as
Speaker 1: we parent our kids too and as they get older. Um,
Speaker 1: those are sort of the things that I kind of
Speaker 1: think about, you know, as they watch us and how
Speaker 1: we behave and the things that we do to try
Speaker 1: not to mess them up. You know, what can we
Speaker 1: do that to instill part of what we think is
Speaker 1: important in them so as they grow they are good humans?
Speaker 1: You know, So we're doing our best. And what do
Speaker 1: you struggle with on on day to day? You seem
Speaker 1: like everything is like I get up, I do this,
Speaker 1: I do this, I have businesses. Like what do you
Speaker 1: personally struggle with on a day to day? I struggle
Speaker 1: with managing the stress of it all. You know, this morning,
Speaker 1: I woke up pretty stressed because we have a lot happening,
Speaker 1: and it's sort of I guess it's the it's the
Speaker 1: not knowing sometimes as the hardest um for me. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm the type of person like I wanted
Speaker 1: to give me a direction, I'll go, you know, so
Speaker 1: sometimes that that gray area for me is the hardest
Speaker 1: of like I'm not sure what we should be doing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we should do this or this.
Speaker 1: Those things are hard for me. I mean I said,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, we're gonna do this and we're gonna go.
Speaker 1: So that gray area before I make a decision is stressful.
Speaker 1: Um as a business founder, uh and as a boss
Speaker 1: that makes sense though, because you've got the team waiting
Speaker 1: for a direction, right, Like you seem like a very
Speaker 1: clear entrepreneur and when you uh what the theme is
Speaker 1: definitely like when you are clear, you have no problem
Speaker 1: just like false the wall, Like You're go in full
Speaker 1: force and everybody will follow, So they might all be
Speaker 1: kind of waiting for you to say this is what
Speaker 1: we're doing. That's the thing though, and that's where I'm
Speaker 1: not good, and that's a fault of mind, and that's
Speaker 1: something that I need to improve on, is my communication
Speaker 1: skills that way, because for me, I'm like, oh, what
Speaker 1: they're they're not reading my mind. You don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. You know what do you mean you're
Speaker 1: not reading my mind? That you know exactly what I
Speaker 1: wanted to be doing? And why are you ask me
Speaker 1: this question? Don't you know? They answer that question? So
Speaker 1: that that part of me needs definitely I need to
Speaker 1: work on and I'm trying to get better. Kevin is
Speaker 1: helping me communicate better well. But the title of my
Speaker 1: unwritten business book is called duh, Right, yeah, of course duh.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I have a couple more wellness questions. So, um,
Speaker 1: just because I'm obsessed with how in it you are.
Speaker 1: What do you think is the number one thing that
Speaker 1: you picked up during the pandemic that you are a
Speaker 1: habit that you're doing that you didn't do before, or
Speaker 1: is there anything that you've changed since your home more? Well,
Speaker 1: I started cooking more. I started doing more. But you
Speaker 1: know it's so funny is during it. So this is
Speaker 1: what's so interesting. And so during the pandemic, when I
Speaker 1: started cooking on Instagram, it was before I was a ketoterian,
Speaker 1: so it's full it was it was gluten free products,
Speaker 1: it was dairy and I get a lot of people
Speaker 1: to complain to me now to this day saying like,
Speaker 1: we miss your cheese recipes and I just sub it
Speaker 1: with regular cheese. Then like, just do you know sub
Speaker 1: it back to what it was? You know, I think
Speaker 1: learning to cook. I mean I started to really put
Speaker 1: myself out there a little bit more with food. But
Speaker 1: I think I learned that, you know, you don't have to.
Speaker 1: I was making things a little more complicated in terms
Speaker 1: of recipes before the pandemic, and then when you're in it,
Speaker 1: you're like a shorter to cook for your family because
Speaker 1: you're all stock at home. When you're having to make
Speaker 1: three miles a day, and it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what kind of just throw together that's quickly. So I
Speaker 1: think the ability to sort of do things faster and
Speaker 1: easier with less ingredients is something that I kind of
Speaker 1: picked up. Um, but now and now that I'm I'm
Speaker 1: this way with my diet, um, it's so, I mean,
Speaker 1: I try. I think it's like most of my recipes
Speaker 1: have like five or six things and not counting the seasonings.
Speaker 1: But to go into it, I think if more people
Speaker 1: ate that way, because a lot of people are like,
Speaker 1: why don't you concern about your salt because you make
Speaker 1: salting too much salt in your food, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: if you're not eating things that come out of a package,
Speaker 1: stop opening your freezer to make your meals, you know,
Speaker 1: and stop opening a package or a can or a
Speaker 1: box to make your food. Start using starting with whole food.
Speaker 1: So start with a fresh protein. Yeah, and salt is
Speaker 1: good for you, Like you need salt. You can't not
Speaker 1: have salt, But you gotta salt your food, right, only
Speaker 1: if the salt tastes good and your salt taste delicious. Yeah, delicious.
Speaker 1: I'm on my second set. So I have a question
Speaker 1: that's going to end up being our final question to everyone.
Speaker 1: So um, it's it's called on my paper closing thought,
Speaker 1: which I love that. So one final thought, if you
Speaker 1: could leave with us, if you could tell someone that's
Speaker 1: listening one thing that could change the course of their
Speaker 1: life for the better. According to Jennifer Fisher, what would
Speaker 1: it be listen to yourself, not others. That's amazing. It's
Speaker 1: so simple. It's so simple. And if I had done
Speaker 1: that earlier, I mean in my jewelry design career, in
Speaker 1: my styling career, if I had not listened to other
Speaker 1: opinions of what people thought I should be doing and
Speaker 1: listen to that that the directions I was like, I
Speaker 1: always like think like, oh my god, where would I
Speaker 1: be now if I actually listened to myself and didn't
Speaker 1: make that mistake. You're unstoppable as it is, so I
Speaker 1: can't imagine if you had just listened to your own
Speaker 1: intuition the entire way through, and you have so many years,
Speaker 1: so many decades ahead of you to become this, you know,
Speaker 1: like major person in the food industry, and and you
Speaker 1: know you're gonna be like the next Mrs Fields. I
Speaker 1: don't know, you're gonna be something more than you want jewelry.
Speaker 1: What I want, I hope, so thank you. What I
Speaker 1: want is to help people not waste time the way
Speaker 1: that I did for so many years doing things wrong.
Speaker 1: You know, I I just I ate incorrectly for so
Speaker 1: many years. And it would have been such a simple
Speaker 1: shift if I didn't mess around with so many other
Speaker 1: things for so long, if I just simplified things, because
Speaker 1: this is really all it is. It's just cutting stuff
Speaker 1: out and simplifying things. I am so inspired. I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to go back on your website and start doing things.
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe I can get my daughter in
Speaker 1: Latta to make some of those recipes. But thank you
Speaker 1: so much for talking to us, Thanks for being our
Speaker 1: first guest, Thanks for having me and Jennifer. If I
Speaker 1: see you on the streets of New York because we
Speaker 1: live near each other, we don't mind me if I
Speaker 1: have cost you for some banana bread, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: anytime